Studio Launch Party - Indian Fetishes, Betting on Wars & Tom Cruise - #1078

30 Mar 2026 · 1 h 40 min · 41 chapters

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In short

The hosts launch a new studio and riff on misophonia (rage at eating sounds), viral weight-loss/“crash” influencer narratives (Nikocado Avocado), and a long music-industry story tying Phil Collins’ “In the Air Tonight” and “Against All Odds” to a betrayal and songwriting “bursts.” They then debate GLP-1 drugs as “anti-desire” affecting love/sex, post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, and dating/workplace norms. The episode also covers self-help as a potential trap (Tim Ferriss), discipline vs idiosyncratic methods (Djokovic/Nadal/Federer), AI regulation headlines, and prediction markets (Polymarket) including arbitrage and legal loopholes. They finish with celebrity anecdotes (Tom Cruise impersonator) and a Pornhub breastfeeding-porn India data claim.

Guests/backgrounds

No named guests appear; the “friends” are conversational co-hosts/participants. One referenced person is Dr. Shin Yong Yang (GLP-1 critic) and Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (Google autocomplete data via Everybody Lies).

Key claims

GLP-1 receptors overlap love circuits; anti-desire drugs may reduce romantic ability. Self-help can become an infinite problem-search loop. Prediction markets may outperform traditional media due to “skin in the game.”

Notable examples

Phil Collins’ “In the Air Tonight” allegedly written from an invoice tied to a painter-affair; Dolly Parton writing “Jolene” and “I Will Always Love You” same day; Rocky script written in ~3 days; Djokovic discipline vs Federer ice cream; Polymarket arbitrage; Tom Cruise impersonator at a house visit.

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Misophonia and Mukbangs

0:26 to 1:54

Discussion on misophonia and the cultural phenomenon of mukbangs.

“Yeah, he's like the inverse Joey Chestnut.”

The Story Behind 'In The Air Tonight'

1:55 to 5:55

A captivating story about Phil Collins and the inspiration for 'In The Air Tonight'.

“Let me, I'll tell you, I'll give a story.”

Dolly Parton's Songwriting Genius

5:56 to 7:39

Exploring Dolly Parton's remarkable songwriting achievements.

“What's funny about this story is - Nothing?”

Sylvester Stallone's Rocky Origin Story

7:40 to 11:35

The incredible backstory of how Sylvester Stallone created Rocky.

“and the lyrics often when you go back yeah what is he saying is he saying something that's like direct or coded for that.”

The Impact of GLP-1 Drugs on Love

11:36 to 13:24

Discussing the effects of GLP-1 drugs on romantic relationships and desire.

“sylvester stallone is george's dad you've got the nose for it um that's radiance that's good you big forearms that's true so in prep for this episode when you told me what the theme was of adult show and tell.”

The Impact of GLPs and SSRIs on Sex Drive

14:01 to 16:00

Explore how GLP-1 medications and SSRIs affect sexual drive and behavior.

“And he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLPs came after him because they're shareholders and it's all part of the big scheme.”

Advice Hyper Responders and Their Implications

16:01 to 18:40

Discuss the phenomenon of advice hyper responders and its effects on personal development.

“If Keir Starmer calls you up and says, we're going to make you chief sex officer, So what do you do to improve the situation?”

Contrasting Success Stories in Discipline

18:41 to 21:34

Learn about diverse approaches to success through discipline in sports and writing.

“I think it's about seven and a half hours.”

The Dangers of Self-Help Trends

21:35 to 24:16

Understand the potential pitfalls of self-help and the balance between acceptance and progress.

“Like it has to be different because if you couldn't comply to it, you're not going to see the results.”

AI Regulation and Its Implications

24:17 to 28:00

Discuss the implications of new regulations on AI in healthcare and law.

“uh the other one is turns out that i just needed to give it all the jesus those are the only two Pick your direction podcast, man.”
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The Power of Polymarket: A Betting Revolution

28:00 to 28:30

Explore how Polymarket is changing the betting landscape and its implications.

“Never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting an LL.”

Understanding Prediction Markets and Their Influence

28:30 to 29:49

Learn about the mechanics of prediction markets and their potential benefits.

“I don't even know how to fucking say what it is.”

The Case of the $3 Million Divorce Bet

29:49 to 31:09

Hear the intriguing story of a man who profited enormously from Polymarket.

“So if you're wrong consistently, you will lose money.”

Arbitrage in Betting: A New Era

31:09 to 32:06

Discover how individuals are exploiting arbitrage opportunities in betting.

“she was now going to be entitled to half of$3 million.”

Legal Aspects of Prediction Markets

32:06 to 33:09

Understand the legal framework surrounding prediction markets and their classifications.

“if you put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server, you could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through a normal server.”

The Streaker: A Case Study in Planning and Incentives

33:09 to 33:58

Delve into the planning behind a Super Bowl streaker and the role of incentives.

“Every bit of life essentially becomes inside of trading if you take it further enough.”

Training for the Ultimate Streak: A YouTube Sensation

33:58 to 35:38

Explore the preparation and execution of a viral Super Bowl streaking stunt.

“We need a close-up of just his face during this discussion.”

A Humorous Encounter with a Tom Cruise Impersonator

35:38 to 36:29

Laugh along with a humorous story involving a Tom Cruise impersonator.

An Unexpected Meeting with the Real Tom Cruise

36:29 to 39:38

Enjoy an exciting tale of meeting the real Tom Cruise in an unexpected setting.

“And so, I don't know, have you guys seen this?”

Cultural Insights on Marriage and Sexuality in India

42:49 to 45:28

Explore surprising marriage-related search queries in India and their implications.

“To get you back for that, Sean, what's your heritage?”

Attachment Styles and Their Impact

45:29 to 48:27

Discuss attachment styles and their evolutionary benefits and drawbacks.

“Not that I have the experience, but in early childhood, the Freudian thing is that there's like, that's your first attraction.”

The Role of Gossip in Social Dynamics

48:28 to 50:27

Examine the evolutionary importance of gossip and its social implications.

“because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off.”

The Bless Her Heart Effect in Female Gossip

50:28 to 52:46

Learn about the psychological mechanisms behind female gossip and rivalry.

“so that the person that's a part of the study come in, although they didn't know it.”

Perception of Time and Aging

52:47 to 55:15

Investigate how perceptions of time change with age and how to slow it down.

“And if you could find it on my Twitter, Jared, he searched George Mac Janet's Law about how time compresses with age.”

Romanticizing Daily Experiences

56:46 to 58:02

Discover how intentional focus on small pleasures can enhance daily life.

“I mean, this sounds incredibly rudimentary and it's such a cliche take, but I think it's cliche because it's true.”

The Story of Henry and Memory

58:02 to 59:19

A poignant narrative about a man who loses his ability to form new memories.

“So Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day, because he only can remember things in two minutes increments and then it disappears.”

Lessons on Time Longevity

59:19 to 1:00:34

Explore the concepts of novel experiences and memory formation.

“And the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it, there's a great book called Time Expansion, Dilution, I believe, that goes into this more in depth.”

Novelty, Routine, and Memory

1:00:34 to 1:02:21

Understand how routine can compress our sense of time compared to novel experiences.

“I mean, I wrote about this seven years ago, badly.”

Finding Novelty in Everyday Life

1:02:21 to 1:06:05

Learn how to introduce novelty into daily tasks to enhance life experiences.

“But yeah, you've hit on something I think super important.”

Childlike Wonder and Playfulness

1:06:05 to 1:07:10

Rekindle the joy of being childlike to enhance presence and enjoyment.

“Which is different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience.”

Learning from Dogs, Kids, and Dead People

1:07:10 to 1:08:37

Discover insights on learning valuable life lessons from diverse sources.

“What did we do in the park the other day?”

Stoicism and Emotional Health

1:10:32 to 1:13:45

Discussing stoicism and its effects on emotional responses during good and bad times.

“There's a great speaking, I think he's dead now.”

The Power of Intentions

1:13:45 to 1:16:28

Exploring the importance of intentions in emotional safety and personal growth.

“chases us and what we chase runs from us.”

J.K. Rowling's Journey and Resilience

1:16:28 to 1:20:59

A powerful story of J.K. Rowling's struggles and eventual success as a writer.

“Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says, psychology is biology.”

Fast Food and CEO Branding

1:24:00 to 1:25:10

Explore the intersection of fast food and personal branding in corporate culture.

“I think there's an upper bound for McDonald's.”

The Beer Mile Explained

1:25:10 to 1:26:45

Learn about the Beer Mile challenge and the unique pain it entails.

“I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run because it's such an acute pain for such a short time.”

Ross Edgley's Swimming Feats

1:26:45 to 1:29:36

Discover the incredible swimming achievements of Ross Edgley and his unique training.

“So there's got to be a strategy here, right?”

Mental UK Headlines

1:29:36 to 1:31:29

Dive into bizarre and humorous news stories from the UK.

“For instance, he swam the longest river in Canada.”

Florida Man Stories

1:31:29 to 1:35:53

Enjoy a light-hearted discussion on outrageous Florida man headlines.

“So I've got one of my favorite accounts called Mental UK Headlines.”

The Science of Underwear and Sperm Health

1:35:53 to 1:38:01

Examine how underwear materials may affect male fertility and health.

“Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90 % from 50 nanograms per milliliter to 5, and 75 % of them couldn't get pregnant.”

Unique Wellness Practices

1:38:01 to 1:39:04

Exploring unconventional health practices including cold exposure and its effects.

“Well, that's why they're in the sack in the first place, right?”
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0:00Hello people, big news. I'm on tour in Australia, but I couldn't wait to share the brand new studio and a brand new episode style with you. There's no rules, no structure, it's just me hanging out and I'm bringing some friends with me.

0:24Enjoy the episode. See ya. what's that thing there's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of like misophonia i have it real bad no way dude if i hear you eat cereal next to me i'll try to break your neck it's the worst all women have this excuse me

0:46i saw this video of some guy that's got one of those big tubes and it makes up so that kills you but it's worse dude like a like when people do the mukbangs with their microphones oh the visceral rage like i you know that they're eating into a fucking jbl microphone who was the fucking guy that psyoped everyone that's crazy who was the king mukbanger that psyoped everyone oh nikado avocado yes thank you did he die no he lost like 200 pounds he lost Oh, really? Yeah, he's like the inverse Joey Chestnut. Yeah. Well, he ballooned. Yeah, and then undid it. Wow. But he got like peak fat and then had peak views on that one video of like, look what happened to my life.

1:28And he was filming it all in the backdrop. But he was losing weight the whole time so the videos were old. And he was like crashing out and crying and obese and then all of a sudden he just shows up 200 pounds lighter and he's like, hello, I have changed. It was the weirdest fucking video ever. Really like, hairs on the back of your neck. Like this guy's maybe a psychopath standout type. Like they cloned him for something. It was crazy. It was fucking wild. All right. What do you got? Oh, want to hop straight in? I do. Okay. Show me what you've got. Let me, I'll tell you, I'll give a story. Let's tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time.

2:03You have my interest. Okay. So it's, picture this. We're going to go back to 1970s Surrey in England. there's like a beautiful old farmhouse called old croft and a musician has just moved in and he's in a band and they've just had their first like top 40 song so it's at that point of a musician's career where either this is like we're about to take off or we had that like one blith on me there and he's just mortgaged like the most insane house for like his wealth size like way above his income because he's betting on his future success and he's like this is the childhood sweetheart dream he met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class and they got two kids together so they've moved into this house together this beautiful old farmhouse with the two kids and like he's managed to get the deal on it so it's slightly cheaper than he can afford but it's still way too expensive but the whole thing needs a whole paint job it's like the whole building needs a load of different work kind of like this stuff here right um and so he uh he has to go on tour um go try and crack america to see if he can pay for this house so he's kind of leaving the house there's painters there that are doing everything up and he's kind of saying goodbye to his family and as he's saying goodbye he doesn't know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house um or if this is going to be the new family home so he goes on tour for a year um and surprisingly the tour goes really really well so he's basically going to pay for this mortgage and at the end of the tour he's having a phone call of his wife and it's not going well and she basically confesses whilst he's been away she's been having an affair and like his heart just drops he's like who so he starts thinking of whoever it's like a singer or somebody else in the band the guy she was having the affair with was the painter he was paying for the house so he like got he just loses his mind he ends up flying back from the tour tries to win her back the not only can he not win her back she basically says i'm taking the kids and I'm leaving to Canada.

4:05So he sits down the band and he says, well, I think the band's over. I've got to go, there's no remote work. I've got to go, I'm going to fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together. So the band say, hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll all go on solo and we'll get back together. So he goes to Canada for three months, putting the marriage back together. Flies back three months later. It's completely failed. And the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house and he says he walks in and he says the paint was still wet with the man who cuckolded me. So he can't, so he's just fuming.

4:38So he leaves, goes to his favourite restaurant, orders a ravioli and he's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving because he's not eating days and this ravioli's staring at him. He's staring back at the ravioli. He just can't eat. He goes back to the house. It's just this old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for, but his family are no longer there. So he starts drinking. He's calling her and she's ignoring his calls in Canada. He starts drinking. He's calling her. And finally he goes, well, i've got to start channeling this thing so he decides he looks at the master bedroom that she slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour and goes well you know what this is going to become my new music studio so he starts like channeling all the energy that's coming up and as he's like in the moment he gramps the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife and he writes a song on it okay so should i play i've got it on my phone i'll play the song you ready this is the song that he writes

5:48you're shitting me so that's how phil collins wrote in the air tonight it's on the invoice of the painter that slept with his wife. And what's interesting, what's fun about this - Did you know this story? What's funny about this story is - Nothing? Wallace -

6:08Fuck, is that a story? We got a banger out of it. But he, well anyway, so Wallace - he's in this house or in this new music studio that he's created. He then is in a fugue state, writes Against All Odds, which goes on to win a Grammy. so he makes that song then against all odds the next day what's interesting about the story the funny part is um what he makes against all odds um obviously becomes a smash hit on the radio and there's a guy in manchester who's listening to the song on loop because he split up with his partner five years ago his girlfriend five years ago so he's listening to this song thinking about her sees her at a bus station um and they end up going out on a date spend all night till 6am they get back together within six months we're engaged we have three children second child was me so the whole so the whole thing

6:59he goes yeah yeah with the toothpick yeah yeah the second child was me so yeah so when you so what's beautiful when you when you re-listen to that phil collins wait are you phil collins son yeah wait no no wait i got lost there for a second no no my dad my dad basically loved that song um when he split it with my mom basically okay okay okay i wasn't sorry that's where you got no no no no boom down you know which room that was this room that's why that room became a podcast studio yeah okay still crazy so yeah but what's crazy is when you re-listen to that i think that song's incredible anyway it still holds up 50 60 years later but when you now repicture him in that old master bedroom where it all happened and the lyrics often when you go back yeah what is he saying is he saying something that's like direct or coded for that.

7:49There's a part in there like, if you gave me, if you was drowning, I would not lend a hand. And it talks about, you've been smiling, or wipe that grin off your face. Right. It's all about him falling in love. Doesn't it sound like a breakup song on first listen? But it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Dude, I fucking, it's such a fantastic one. What was it that we found out the other day? That Dolly Parton wrote

8:16two of her fucking biggest, Google, what two songs did Dolly Parton, Jolene, Jolene, and fucking, like Working 9 to 5, or something, in the same day. She wrote them in the same day. Oh, wow. That's crazy. Wow. There's a bunch of those examples of these bursts, these bursts where like, I think the Beatles famously did this where they recorded like a fucking album in a day, or they did like, they had like this, insane burst of their greatest hits in a very short amount of time. About five. Jolene and I Will Always Love You. Yeah. Wow. In the same day, she mentioned in interviews that she wrote them during the same songwriting session and later joked, that was a good writing day.

8:57Wow. So nonchalant. I think Bobby Darien's Splish Splash was written in 20 minutes or something like that. Have you guys heard the full Rocky story, the Sylvester Stallone Rocky backstory? No. Oh, this is insane. You know this one. So Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor. And, you know, but he's got this like birth defect. So when he was born, I think the doctors, they did something. That's why he has that crooked smile. So he had like a medical, almost like a malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face. But he wants to be an actor. He talks kind of funny, face is kind of funny.

9:29So he's not getting any roles. Keeps going to casting auditions. No role, no role, no role. So he says, all right, if I can't get casted in somebody else's movie, I'll write my own. So he goes to his house. And again, like sort of in that fuge state, he basically does two things. He paints all the windows black. And he's like, I'm not leaving this house. I don't even want to know if it's night or day until I finish the script. He hates writing. So he's like, I just got to do this fast because I hate writing. So in three days, he writes the script for Rocky. And he has, and the story of Rocky, which is like this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him.

10:02It's a story of him wanting to be an actor, but he just shows boxing because it's more like physical, like knockout punch. It's easier for the audience to understand, but it's his story. And so then he goes and he pitches the script and people are like, actually, the script is pretty good. He's like, awesome. And they're like, we'll buy it. It's great. He's like, and I'm Rocky. And they're like, no, no, you're not Rocky. We'll buy the script, but you're not Rocky. And so he has an offer, I think for a million dollars or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money. And he turns it down.

10:27He ends up taking, I think 25 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be Rocky. And he's struggling to make ends meet. He literally, he's like eating like canned beans. He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog. So he's like, his dog was his only companion in the world. He goes, he sells it to a guy and gets like a couple hundred bucks for his dog. And then it's just like, fuck, he's just literally rock bottom to film Rocky. He basically films the whole movie on like a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permits, sneaking into things.

11:01They film Rocky that way. okay Rocky becomes this huge hit he basically gets this money he goes and he first thing he does he goes back and buys back his dog the guy doesn't want to sell it to him he's like I love this dog and he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back and then that was basically the the start of Sylvester Stallone's story was this like three-day bender he had to write the story of Rocky how insane is that the guy in the film as well right and that was part of the deal it was like I'll give you 25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie and he's in the movie Rocky the guy he's like by the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to i didn't know any of that fucking shit i didn't know that isn't it better than the actual story of was george

11:42sylvester stallone is george's dad

11:48you've got the nose for it um

11:53that's radiance that's good you big forearms that's true so in prep for this episode when you told me what the theme was of adult show and tell. I got on X for the first time in, I don't know, a year. I never used that platform. Goldmine, what the hell? Are you about to show us Twitter? That's the thing you brought. I found this beautiful new app. It was bought by a prominent billionaire, I think. No, I don't know how, but the algorithm was so curated to me, despite me not using it because of, I think, the one-off articles that my friends send me. And one of the articles he sent me was, I think I've got it in there under GLP-1's nuke the ability to love.

12:32Have you guys heard about this? I saw this. Do you guys see this? No. This is great. Okay, so we initially thought GLP-1's leicozempic, trisepatide, and retitrutide just reduced food cravings. Now we know they work for alcohol, cocaine, gambling, and other addictions too. But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit? Falling in love. GLP-1 receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love. The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite, they suppress wanting in general, including romantic craving another person. Something like 60 million people are now on anti-desire drugs and it happened in the blink of an eye.

13:09I predict in the coming years, we will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love. We will also see them fall out of love or be unable to feel it in relationships that were previously great. If your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GLPs and your relationship started failing, there's a good chance that's why. this sparked i went back to what was his name can you scroll up a bit dr shin yon shin yong yang this sport bravery of trying to pronounce that just now on air i think i was pretty you are the courageous great that was just a fucking dice roll but he said it instantly what is courage but taking action i think the this i went back to his twitter today to find this holy shit he created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this because is he ai look at this profile picture oh perhaps i didn't look that deep why does he have a golden door is he dead interesting he might be after that tweet because big pharma got him no i'm kidding running a plastic surgery clinic in busan korea i bet he is busy as fuck think about how many koreans get plastic surgery dude i know it's crazy oh is he just anti so he seems like he's very anti-GLPs.

14:19He's been hammering this for days. And he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLPs came after him because they're shareholders and it's all part of the big scheme. But there's basically, I think this is rooted in theory and it makes sense theoretically if it acts on the same dopaminergic pathways. But the very concept of the fact that it doesn't just kill your appetite, it just kills your drive in general. It just gives you the dopamine fill without it doing anything. It works for more stuff than just food, which is pretty interesting. It seems to work on weed. It seems to work on behavioral addictions, alcoholism, gaming.

14:49Yeah, gambling. So the fact that, like, what is limerence? What is attraction? You know, it's the same thing. It's this dropping of serotonin. It's a massive increase in epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine. It's just rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. Like a very obsessed crush phase. There's a really interesting thing that's similar to that. PSSD, post-SSRI sexual dysfunction. So when people are on SSRIs, their sex drive can go down. But if you take them for a long enough period, or if you take them, especially during puberty, and increasingly more young people are getting them prescribed when they're young, this can lock in for the rest of time.

15:26You can get genital numbing, the pathways that just allow you to feel what's going on during sex. They get muted. Your drive gets... So there's all of these groups of people who are trying to reignite, re-kickstart. They're probably the ones that are watching the fucking BDSM port. They need to escalate. But yeah, between that and hormonal birth control for women driving down their sex drive and making them choose guys that they wouldn't be attracted to if they weren't on it and GLPs and SSRI, the sex recession is just not a surprise at all. It's just not a surprise. If you're having sex, you're in the minority.

16:01If Keir Starmer calls you up and says, we're going to make you chief sex officer, So what do you do to improve the situation? Well, you can't pull people off SSRIs because some of them need it. And even if they don't need it, they're going to rebel. So that wouldn't be good. Can't pull people off GLP-1s because it's also going to be pretty bad and maybe they were going to die soon too. I think co-ed spaces, dating should be allowed at work. Obviously, there's always going to be some blast radius of side effects that happen. You're going to get in trouble because there's going to be some guy that doesn't take no for an answer and is blowing through boundaries in a wrong way.

16:37but i think a big part of it is making guys braver because guys were already pretty timid and approaching women now post me too everyone's terrified uh so trying to re-encourage men i mean you've heard me do this before but like the me too instruction of men don't be pushy with women only landed with guys that were already nervous with women the dudes that were blowing through boundaries and really needed to have the me too revolution like hit them they just didn't take any take took no heed of it these are advice hyper responders right explain that it's one of my favorite ideas of yours the advice hyper responder so advice doesn't land evenly it sort of distributes more like alcohol than it does medicine the people who really need to take it are unchanged while the people that are already overdosing on it take too much so uh think about the advice to just work harder the lazy person who spends all of their time on the couch, they're unchanged.

17:36They don't even see it apply to them. Whereas the person who already believes like they're not working hard enough, that pushes them to work even more. Take more responsibility. The girl who believes that everything is already her fault decides that she needs to bear even more of the burden and carry bags that aren't hers. When the person who points the finger elsewhere just, again, coasts past it unchanged. The instruction for men to open up and be more sensitive the existing sensitive guys who are already kind of opening their hearts far too much and crying at things that they shouldn't do they take that as an indication that they're already emotionally insufficient whereas the stoic boomer just you know no impact at all so it's one of the problems with giving blanket coverage advice it's why on the show and with everything that i write now i'm so much more hesitant about saying this works for everyone it's almost always caveated with if this sounds like it applies to you it probably does um but then you've got the advice hyper responder thing which is maybe it just confirms your fears maybe it uh already pushes you in the direction that you were going previously so yeah it's a it's a difficult world to navigate when there's lots what's that navale line um if you take enough self-advice take enough uh personal development advice it all just nets out to zero right because for every every maxim has an equal i actually think that's useful in a way because when you have two people that you deeply respect that are completely the opposite you almost go you kind of it's like two things pulling you in that direction you kind of stay still as a result like one of my favorite stories of all time was um no the it's the greatest tennis match of all time is what it's called and it's novak jokovic versus rafael on the Dow.

19:19It goes on for five sets. I think it's about seven and a half hours. There's a rainbreak in between. I think Nadal takes the lead. Djokovic takes it back. Nadal takes the lead. There's a tie break that's about 70 minutes long. One tie break is 70 minutes long. They finish the game and I think it's 1.40am and Djokovic just collapses. And there's a part, there's this amazing part in Djokovic's biography where he's talking about discipline and he's talking about this is what it takes to win um and he's describing how in the aftermath of the game he sat in the dressing room exhausted and he's not had any sugar because he's been so disciplined and so focused because this is what it takes he's not had any sugar in i think it's three years leading up to this so he allows himself like a tab of chocolate on his tongue and he lets it melt and he says i stopped then immediately and i was back preparing for the next tournament and what i love about this story.

20:17He didn't even chew it. He didn't even chew it. Just let it melt. Just let it melt. Because this shows you what it takes, the discipline. Meanwhile, Australian Open, three years later, Roger Federer wins and he eats ice cream every single night. And it's like, oh, there's Djokovic, there's Federer. And it's not that either of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them. And that's why I kind of like collecting completely opposite pieces of advice so for example Stephen King wrote his entire novel or all his work just raw dogging it he would just turn up cup of coffee stare at a blank screen make it happen JK Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter so it's just there's a handwritten spreadsheet I've seen yeah there's a handwritten spreadsheet so there's like just different approaches and when you get to the top of any craft you'll notice that you'll have it's same with investing right Warren Buffett does almost only invest in things he'll understand reads everything and who's the guy who does it all via algorithms um like jim simon's like renaissance capital everything via algorithms both billionaires multiple times over it's really interesting going oh now i have to pick my own way well it's so idiosyncratic right like you don't know you don't know what it is that's going to work the irony is the the the way the one thing that they all have in common often is that they have nothing in common is that they've kind of done what worked for them that's the one thing that they actually share i think the underlying principle is compliance that you have to find something that you can comply to.

21:39And that is why it's so idiosyncratic. Like it has to be different because if you couldn't comply to it, you're not going to see the results. Like consistency is super important. So if Djokovic had tried Nadal's approach or Nadal had tried Federer's approach, that wouldn't have worked by design. But wasn't it Djokovic that said, I just like hitting the ball? Yeah. That seems like kind of counter to the robotic approach that doesn't seem that fun. Well, my friend Billy has an amazing story about this. the just like hitting a ball one was when he was he was about to quit he was like fifth in the world spoke to his coach um and gets into that whole i just like winning the ball and then he goes on this tear and becomes number one but the actual like discipline when it came to his diet was um was specific to him whereas federer ice cream every night well i had one to show on the advice self-help advice thing did you see the tim ferris blog he posted i think today or yesterday the Ouroboros of infinity.

22:34Yeah, exactly. So Tim Ferriss, who's like helped a lot of people and been a big distributor and receiver of self-help basically writes this post kind of essentially saying, got to be careful with self-help. And, but in a pretty personal way, I thought it was kind of an amazing post about like, if you go through this loop, the type of person who wants self-help, they want to be happy. And so they try to fix a problem to make themselves happy. But in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix problems. It's got nuts. Yeah. Horus has nuts. And so this post is amazing.

23:09It's basically just like the act of self-improvement can lead to that sort of infinite cycle of searching for problems to solve, to improve. And then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way. How do you solve the infinite problem? Well, he actually says it in this. Basically, he's like, there's this, like, you need both. If you just have radical acceptance of your situation, you go nowhere and you will ultimately not be happy with your own lack of progress in life. But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses, flaws, imperfections in your life and just be able to sit with them, then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy, but you won't be happy ever.

23:51And so - Scroll up, Jared. That's such a fucking good line. The older I get, the more I think that self-help can be a trap. sometimes the cure is worse than the disease i say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it bro this is the fucking do you know there's two types of pivots that white podcasters make bless you one is the god pivot and the other one the other one is the renunciation of all of your life's work pivot yeah it's the turns out i was over optimizing uh the other one is turns out that i just needed to give it all the jesus those are the only two Pick your direction podcast, man.

24:27That's it. I chose the second one. Hey, I went to a youth thing. I heard. The other night. Keegan told me. Yeah. What did you think? I was praising, man. No, it was nice. It's crazy. What is this? He went to a Tuesday night young adult service at a church at Austin Ridge Church. Young adults. Young adults. And didn't sneak in. It was permitted up until age 40. You said I went to the kids thing. I was like, interesting. well i mean it's is it wrong uh yeah i think everyone's our age uh yeah i mean i didn't ask for id but fair how old are you again 23 correct i'm 35 you were right about what you said by the way i loved the i love that line of thought you just brought up about the choosing which works for you in self-development one of my favorite quotes is from dr stan efforting compliance is the science it's the same way that people get jacked in the gym doing mike mincer's low volume approach versus someone going to the gym six days a week and doing 20 sets if they just don't stop they're gonna get jacked yeah the only thing the only path to success is the one you just don't leave find the one that you enjoy find the one that you enjoy so this is interesting this is another i'm i'll never get off x what if i've been missing this is this is exactly like must have been how my dad felt when he discovered facebook reels and then i was like why is dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later.

25:47He's, I think it's some bullshit meme. It's so funny. AI banned from answering legal and healthcare questions. This is very interesting. I don't, I don't know what truth or validity that there is to this because this is on X, but breaking New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, psychology, social work, engineering, and more. And so there's this narrative of, I wish I had the, I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free with the experts are charging$400 an hour for, and suddenly it's restricted and controlled upon.

26:22I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill will go, but it's an interesting thought that now readily available information is completely free or at most, what,$10 a month for Claude or ChatGPT? ChatGPT. And now suddenly there's this bill that was like, hold on. And someone commented like, WebMD has been giving people dog shit advice for 25 years now. And they didn't ever get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue? Do you think it's because it's kind of personified? It feels like a person's giving it to you. I mean, you'll have done this before that your AI gets it wrong.

26:54And then you start shouting at it. You try and discipline it. How could you have done that? You're like, okay, I just need to. You never did that with Google. You never said to Google, how could you have done this? I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human. The first thing now I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication. So I'll never just speak to one LLM. I'll speak to three of them. And I notice if I go via three, the odds of them making mistakes seems to go significantly lower. Going back to that New York thing, it feels like, what are you going to do?

27:23Like, you can't - How are you going to control that? Those stuff, it just, New York are always like crazy for regulation like this that never happens, never passes, or never actually actualizes. Even if they do, immediately people are going to VPN. We live in the world of the VPN. These regulations just are going to have absolutely no impact apart from headlines. There's a billion users using ChatGPT. It's like fist fighting the wind. To be like, no, we say no. Garden hose to a forest fire. Yeah, what are you going to do? When AI first kicked off, there was all the talk about hallucinations, and it's definitely gotten a lot better.

27:53And the original line was, never speak to an LLM without first speaking to your doctor or your lawyer. And now my line is, that's true, but also never - The reverse. Yeah, yeah. Never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting an LL. Right. The amount of people I know personally that have fixed health conditions, that they've been working with a doctor for 10 to 20 years, that ChatGPT is just one-shotted in one is incredible. You see that, speaking of Polymarket, Polymarket took down the will-a-nuclear-war-breakout-this-year betting market because there was way too much trading volume happening around what's going on in Iran.

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28:29Oh, wow. What is Polymarket? You're not going to be on XTEN. He just discovered X. I just discovered X, George. I'm 14 years. Mentally, I'm 68. I don't know what Polymarket is. Do you want to describe it, Sean? I don't even know how to fucking say what it is. Yeah, it's basically a casino for everything. So you can go bet on anything. That sounds dangerous. They call it a prediction market. It's kind of like the Aoli versus Mayonnaise situation. So it's like, oh, sports betting, not legal. Polymarket betting on a sport event, legal somehow. And so basically you can bet on who's going to become president.

29:03You can bet on who's going to win this game this weekend. But you can also bet on anything like who's going to win or like, you know, will there be a strike? Will this guy be the president in a month? And so you can bet on basically any outcome. And the criticism of prediction markets early on was they become assassination markets because you create this huge incentive to just say, will this guy be around? And if I want money, it ends up becoming a bounty. This is becoming a Deadpool. Yeah, exactly. So that's always been the criticism. And it's like, oh, there's plenty of other good things about it.

29:36But if you want to know the truth about how likely something is to happen, if you go to the New York Times or any just traditional news outlet, the incentive of the writer is to write a juicy headline and then maybe they have their opinion. But Polymarket is basically only people with skin in the game betting on an outcome. So if you're wrong consistently, you will lose money. If you're right consistently, you'll have a bigger bankroll on Polymarket. So over time, it becomes the closest thing to accurate predictions. Did they get the election right in 24? Yep. did they and there's a cash payout for this like you're actually gambling it's just gambling but it's gambling with a graph it's an exchange it's very important it's gambling but there's a graph on it uh which makes it look a lot more like a market yeah yeah what's your kind of take on it do you think how do you think it's gonna play out over the next few years unstoppable like i think it's gonna be people love gambling people love predicting things people need the information uh i mean it's growing like crazy right now i don't know if you saw there's actually a funny story.

30:33I think I have it on my sheet if you don't pull it up, but there was this man and woman apparently getting divorced. This might be a fake news AI, by the way. It's like the story is almost too good to be true, but they're, they're getting divorced. The man worked part-time in a warehouse, but suddenly started driving like a BMW. And the wife was like, can you, she asked her lawyer, like, can you just, do you have a way to check? Like, how could he afford this car? And basically he did like a forensic audit and, and subpoenaed, like kind of subpoenaed his digital wallets. And they basically found that this guy had made$3 million over the last year with a pretty much 100 % hit rate on his poly market bets.

31:07And what he had realized, and so she was now going to be entitled to half of$3 million. But the guy fighting it in the courtroom was like, well, this is not an asset. It's a strategy. I'm running a strategy that's allowing me to win. So the judge was like, okay, what's your strategy? And he basically was like, well, Well, I just realized that the Las Vegas sports books would update and the market I was betting on wasn't updating fast enough. And so I would just bet the new odds. Even if the thing didn't happen, it was going to always match the new odds. And so he's like, I was just arbitraging that.

31:40And so he had like, they audited his bets and it was just all green, basically. And so there's a lot of people that have found these little arbitrages. Like people are sending people to, let's say a sporting event because they can relay what happened faster than the broadcast and faster than the like the database updates. I swear this was happening in Asia with soccer matches. Yeah. I swear this was happening there and someone was going over and sending it back. Yeah. It's like, have you ever read Flash Boys? There was like a whole quant trading thing where if you put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server, you could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through a normal server.

32:13And they're like putting fiber through mountains to like shave off pennies off of every trade, essentially. Wow. So do gambling laws apply then universally to Polymarket? When it came out, it's a gambling affiliate. So like, we can't do it in Georgia. There's basically a loophole. So prediction markets are not considered gambling. They're their like commodities contracts. So it's like betting on the future price of like soybeans. So they're regulated by the same people who do like the commodities markets. And so that's how they've been able to get around this. Everything. Everything. World events.

32:44There is no, oh, it's so much smaller than world events. Like what color is the Gatorade going to be that gets dunked over the head of the coach at the Superbowl? Anything. And we're calling this, it's called Polymarket and it's market. This is like when someone says, what do you do for work? And they go, I'm a sanitation engineer. He's a fucking trash guy. It's just like, this is the same. Branding, branding. Branding. Every bit of life essentially becomes inside of trading if you take it further enough. Wow. It's an interesting question. During the halftime show, they were like, oh, is he going to play this song?

33:18Well, guess what? There was like 400 backup dancers. And so it was very, they're getting caught because it's like suddenly this wallet comes out, puts 32 grand on this one obscure market. And it's like, guess what? He was a backup dancer. You see the guy who stood outside of the stadium in the days preceding it, timing how long the national anthem was going to be. And he was out there with a stopwatch. He videoed it himself because they're rehearsing, rehearsing, rehearsing, and then puts the bet on and wins a fucking shit ton of money because he knew exactly. And that was legal because he was outside.

33:51It was public information. And he's one of those radio telescope listening device things, like tuning in and sure enough. We need a close-up of just his face during this discussion. The whole discussion, we take a picture-in-picture cam of his face during each of those explanations. Okay, so Polly Market? Did you guys see the Super Bowl streaker guy, his YouTube channel? No. He put Meta Ray-Bans on, right? He did. So this guy, this video is incredible. I don't watch many YouTube videos, but I watched all 30 minutes of this video. Hang on, how many? He's been training. He's fucking training. So this is a big agility drill.

34:30No, no. It's so funny. So this guy did it before. And he's like, I'm going to do it again, 23 days. And this is basically a training montage of like a bank heist. But it's just streaking at the Super Bowl. Wow. So he's doing agility drills. And he shows pictures of the security cars, which, you know, they look like event security. And he's like, you think they can stop me? As he's doing like a shuttle drill. This is brilliant. This is like he's training for the combine. Yeah, exactly. And so he, and then if you skip forward, he's like on SeatGeek looking at the like 3D images of which seat is optimal to jump.

35:01Like how high is the rail? How deep is the fall? And then he has a decoy. So he has his friend do it with him. The friend jumps first. Everybody goes to tackle him. And then he jumps second and gets a free run. This is the run. That's the friend. Oh, so. And then he goes second while they're. Oh, no way. He said the decoy. The fallen soldier. And then this guy. You think you can stop me? shake and bake and then he's like in the meds get this is like madden right in the meds he gets taken down by by an actual player that's unreal what's the penalty for something like that a ticket because it's a misdemeanor no he goes to jail so he goes to jail for the night but he knew that because it happened last year so he's like i gotta remember to piss before i gotta eat because i don't want to you know like he's like planning for his jail visit and at the end he basically respawns like it's gta because the footage comes back when he's leaving the jail and all of this was to promote his like um stock tips platform or something but he got like over a million views if you could have bet on yourself on polymarket he did he did he did yeah he knew what the fine was and then he bet on himself yeah and he did it odds of a streaker at the super bowl he didn't want to like confirm it but they're like pretty sure wow him and his crazy bag off this but isn't that crazy isn't it like just insane what youtube will it's like show me your incentive i'll show you your outcome it's like youtube is basically like do the craziest shit yeah so then people do exactly the craziest fact that he tried for it is unreal did you guys see this you're on x but you're not on are you on tiktok yes okay he is tiktok there is a tiktok that i thought was just super funny it's tom cruise there's this tom cruise impersonator and what happens is this guy invites him over to his house he basically hires the tom cruise impersonator but not for a party or a corporate event, just come over to my living room.

36:50And so, I don't know, have you guys seen this? He's, yes. Put the sound on because the voice is amazing. This is so good. Hey, what's up? Woo! Expect the cock and tea. Yeah, I guess just like whatever. So it's super awkward, right? Woo! Oh, Carter. Wingman for the, I love this. Woo! Expect that. Tom, Tom. Hey, good to see you. Hey, my dastard's gone. You don't know what it's like to be out here for you. It's an up at dawn, provide swallowing seeds that I can never fully tell you about. Just help me, help you. Help me, help you. What are we talking about here? What have you done? Tom, I'm going to sit here.

37:31We're the best day of my life. I'm just going to keep getting better. It's an honor to meet you. I'm going to keep compelled. Good to see you, Dodge.

37:42What are you working on, Tom? Deep learning. I'm working on a ton of things. A lot of stuff. No. Flying inverted, you know, buzzing the tower, all that stuff. Woo! Just really happy to be here. You ever had a new tonic? I got to read the ingredients first. Yeah, I like all these things, yeah. Did you put ketamine in this new tonic? Rolio. Am I in a K-hole right now? I studied Rolio. Health theany, one of my favorites. How's the church? Church is good. Church is good. Really giving me everything I need. Oh, sure. That happens sometimes.

38:20I miscomposed myself. So how's everyone doing? So much better than I was five minutes ago. How far down the rabbit hole have we gone? Let's go deep, okay? How far are we going to go? I feel like I'm in a fucking fever dream. I feel like I'm in a fever dream. How do you think I feel? By the way, if you'd been a mass shooter, we would have all been dead. I have no defensive capabilities at all. Holy shit. You need to tighten the security in this place. How did he get in here? Do you have any questions for me? Have you ever met the actual Tom? I did. I met him, yeah. How was that? Tom Ramon. It was very exciting.

38:51He was going away? Well, you know, it was two in the morning. I was with some friends having drinks, and he was having dinner with a big group of people. And I wanted to buy him a bottle of champagne as a way to commemorate after impersonating him for 10 years at the time. Just meeting him for the first time. And the waiter shot me down, said, have you been to the Chateau Marmont? Anyone? No? In LA? Iconic landmark hotel. but now it's like a different different kind of place like a special like so ask kind of membership club but tried to buy him a bottle of champagne the waiter shot me down said you'll be banned and i'm going to be fired so i just couldn't approach tom cruise but my girlfriend at the time said uh there's no way in hell you're leaving here tonight without meeting him so she was really adamant about it so he leaves two in the morning i'm having uh drinks with my friend getting more progressively more drunk, right?

39:41And everyone's gone. It's just Jimmy, my friend Jimmy, myself, and Donna in the Garden of the Chateau. It's a restaurant. And she ends up leaving to go to the bathroom. And Jimmy gets a phone call from Donna saying, Tom Cruise is waiting for me in the ballet area. Like, literally waiting for me. I couldn't believe it. So I get up out of my chair, a sprint through the whole lobby and the whole hotel. I get there, and he's there with Jeremy Renner about to get on his motorcycle at 2 in the morning. and we had this really nice moment. We shook each other. You know, it's an honor and privilege to meet you.

40:12You complete. We shook each other. He's very handsy. Close talker. He's handsy, you know. Yeah. It was very exciting. I didn't go to sleep that night. It was definitely a wonderful experience. Yeah. Tom, we appreciate you being a special guest. Oh, absolutely. I've already stayed my role. Wow. I'm going to back off. If you need anything from me, just let me know, you know, if you need to learn about, you know, logic and reasoning, I'm here for you, okay? What a pleasure. I love you too. Hey. Bye, y 'all. Beach volleyball tomorrow at 8 a.m. Sure. It's even the right height. Bye. I'm going to get the close-up of the crying.

40:51Where do we go from here? How do you think audio listeners feel? The big question. The big question. Get a studio, they said. It won't drive you insane, they said. the mass shooter line had to do something special completely if that guy had a sidearm he was in Chris's ear three seconds after the door opened yeah he moves fast damn I was telling the guys I was like I want to do this I think it would be fun just do something different and they were like you know we want to throw Chris off his vibe for the first episode and I was like I don't know I think I'm going to do it I think we're going to do it anyway I think that's part of the vibe holy fucking shit it might work but just don't touch Chris and he went straight for the hand shake I was like oh fuck rugby tackles me to the ground Jesus fucking Christ, dude.

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43:31But in India, the most common completion was, my husband wants me to breastfeed him. This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country. In India, searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby. Wow. Before you make a comment, Sean, bring her through.

43:59I think the most...

44:05Too quickly this game. Bonnie, come on down. I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic, I look at Sean and he goes, yeah. Of course. It makes a lot of sense. And the sky is blue. So if you look at a map, Pornhub released all of that. They've got a good data science team, which you might not expect actually but Pornhub have got a great data science team and if you look at the most popular types of porn across the world varies country to country the absolute outlier is India with breastfeeding porn and I'm fascinated to work out why I think maybe it's something to do with the sort of overbearing mother thing redemption arc some fucking Freudian shit going on or something to do with cows and milk sacred I don't know yeah I like how you're like explain your people's behaviors you speak for the billion indians well i think it's basically our version of the stepsister genre right like that's basically the i think in america it's like it could be a man and woman hooking up but what if she was his stepsister or stepmom it's like there's always like a step whatever in india we don't really get divorced so there's not really a step there's not really a step thing so you just go straight to the mom that's my explanation straight to the source.

45:22Right. It's the closest thing that you can get to acceptable. It might be like, isn't there like the Freudian thing? Like you, you know, there's like desire for the mom or whatever. Yeah. Speak for yourself, Sean. Not that I have the experience, but in early childhood, the Freudian thing is that there's like, that's your first attraction. I was reading, I'm reading the Elon biography and they were talking about, because Elon's had pretty like terrible choice in women or at least like for himself, like the relationships have not worked out. He also had quite a big sample size. He's the common denominator.

45:49Yeah, fair enough. But like he was with Amber Heard and it was like a pretty toxic relationship, but they stayed together. They got back together. He was with, I think, Tallulah Riley. They got married and he proposed in seven days and then they got married, divorced. At the divorce proceeding, they start making out and tell the judge they don't, they're going to go ahead with the divorce, but then they move back in together. So he's done some like questionable things. And one of his wives basically said like he's attracted to like the abuse because his father was so abusive. and it's basically like he there's something about like love and the intensity of a toxic abusive relationship that like fused somewhere in his body so when he meets a woman who's intense and they get into like a toxic relationship like he has that anchor to love somehow parental love in some weird way so i was like i found out some interesting stuff this week about uh insecure attachment so uh avoidant attachment fearful avoidant and anxious attachment there's different types of attachment styles and about 50 % of the population are securely attached.

46:51About 20 % are anxiously attached. About 20 % are avoidant attached, sorry. 5 % are fearful avoidant, which is both. About 25 % are anxious avoidant. What you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style, they're not happy with it. They want to change it. They would much sooner not be pushing people away that they want to get close to or worried that someone's going to leave them, that maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much. So I was interested to work out what the evolutionary advantages are that are conferred on people by being anxious or avoidant.

47:25And you think, well, there have to be some. Anxiously attached people, they have a much keener sense of paying attention to small differences, changes in the moments, changes in environment. and there was a great study done where they brought people into a setting and they'd already done an attachment style quiz prior so they understood the different attachment styles in the room. And then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out as if there was a fire that might be about to start. What's fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first, but the avoidantly attached people were the first ones out the door.

48:02Every single time. and the argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes they're the ones that will be scrutinizing they're hyper vigilant for stuff but they'll think should we do we leave that tiger like do we think it's getting closer is it the avoidant people are like i'm fucking out of here and everybody then follows after them so one of the cool things that the avoidantly attached people have is a competitive advantage they work better on their own they're decisive but they're really good at being in calamity because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off.

48:36So if you were an EMT, if you were dealing with some horrendous car accident, some car wreck, and you just need to get the job done, you almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side. You need to be like, okay, compassionate. It's not time for you now. Whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that. And I think what's cool about it is we don't ever look, we tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are shortcomings. And this is a really good example here of, sure, maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner's going to leave you all the time, but this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or paying attention to brand.

49:16For instance, if you were a police unit, you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious. And it's just, I think it's really interesting to think about how different psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs and uh that's a a cool study about it i like that the secure ones just stay stay and burn the secure people are the worst yeah secure people by far the way they've got the best relationships but they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would right be burned alive yeah it's like a gossip right like gossip is seen as a negative thing to do wow that's like that's a that's a trait you should try to get rid of it's like well why does why did gossip survive evolutionarily.

49:55It's, well, it's actually incredibly important. I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe. So we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to like survive in any large group. So gossip is actually incredibly important if you're going to be in any sort of social tribe, but it's seen as this like really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know what I mean? You know what venting is? So it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person. So there's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect. And it really only happens among women, not so much among men.

50:27So they brought women into a lab and they had a confederate, as they're called, so that the person that's a part of the study come in, although they didn't know it. Two versions. First version, the woman is dressed very provocatively and looks sort of well put together, like quite sexy. In the second version, she looks like a mess, like not a sexual rival at all. So how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman? That's what they were controlling for. And in both versions, this woman comes in and says, I slept with two guys last night, and I don't really know what's going on. And like, I'm not really too sure about this thing.

50:59And then later on, she would leave the room. And what you find is that the woman that she said it to, if she was dressed provocatively, more likely says, tells somebody else. They gossip about what's going on. But the type of gossip is what calls, they called it the bless her heart effect. The type of gossip is couched under concern. So George, I'm just so worried. I'm really, really worried about Christina. She's just sleeping with all of these guys and I'm so worried that she's going to get hurt. And the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it, it's like, well, look, Christina, I was just like, I'm sorry.

51:32I'm just worried about you. I'm just so worried about you. And implicitly it says me. Right. I would never. Right. No, I wouldn't. I could never, that would never be what I would do. Also, I'm pro-social look at how much I'm looking out for but also she's after two fucking guys last night by the way and uh yeah it's just the bless her heart effect gossip thing is is pretty fucking and what do they say about the other woman they were less likely to say shared at all they were less likely yeah because she looked like she was down on her luck she didn't look like a sexual right right it's a enforcement mechanism for um intrasexual competition among women that's the way it works didn't you have a lady on recently you had a discussion about malicious nature within females a full two hours of it yeah danny solikowski she's a beast but um the fact that the internet hasn't got angry at that episode just shows how much female privilege there is well she can say all of that everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it yeah it was uh it's fascinating dude it's like endless this is just a big promotion and master class on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change no stay avoided stay anxious life's better this way don't do the work what if a computer gets set on fire it's very important you need to hang on to that thing that made you not have committed relationships so you don't die in a fire of course naturally time has flown by during this podcast which brings me on to my point about time the king of transitions amazing segue Bill Collins' grandson is just on it right now he's Sylvester Stallone's stepson you're so perceptive of the environment are you anxiously attached there needs to be an award for um worse transition um so there's a guy called albert hein in around about the 1880s and he is a geologist who's climbing up a mountain and he falls 60 feet right so from the laws of physics a 60 feet fall is one two boom and you're dead um so he but now he recalls what his experience was like a falling so he falls and he immediately thinks as he's falling down um he thinks should i take my glasses off or should i keep them on should i drop my cane or should i uh basically cry for help and he goes oh because i wonder what it's going to be like when people realize that i'm on this trip with that i'm dead should i let them know like this is happening then he starts thinking about the lecture he's going to give next week and how um they're going to all be there and go oh he's dead then his entire life flashes before his eyes two seconds and he can't what would be interesting about the story you'd immediately go well this is quackery this is like him potentially making this thing up post hoc but he then spent his entire life like chatting to other people that have had this experience of falling off things from builders to different climbers and lots of them mirror the exact same thing that just as you're about to die your dilation of time slows down so much it's one big thing i've been writing about of late around um how do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing time?

54:30And if you could find it on my Twitter, Jared, he searched George Mac Janet's Law about how time compresses with age. And it's kind of this idea that you've experienced, according to this theory, which I don't think is necessarily true, but according to this theory, you've lived half of your life by around about the age of 20. Experientially. Experientially. Particularly because children, the reason why time feels so slow as a child is everything is new so that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is for example once we've been here time has slowed down um to some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment but by the time you've been doing it 300 times things go so much faster but i'm i don't know if you guys have actually thought through of like how as you get older do you go about slowing down time and not just waking up 85 yeah i have shit everything went what do you do we'll get back to talking in just one second but first tell me if this sounds familiar.

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56:26And right now, you can get$25 off, bringing it down to$340. Get the exact same blood panels that I get and save that additional$25 by going to the link in the description below by heading to functionhealth.com slash modernwisdom and using the code modernwisdom at checkout. That's functionhealth.com slash modern wisdom and modern wisdom at checkout. I mean, this sounds incredibly rudimentary and it's such a cliche take, but I think it's cliche because it's true. Yeah. There's a reason that cliches exist is I think things feel slower when you make an intention to over romanticize them. Like how one of the things I heard a friend say is, is how good can it get?

57:04How good God can it get? Like the cup of coffee, how damn good is this cup of coffee? and it forces you into the present over something seemingly minuscule. But if that coffee was bad, you'd notice it, right? Because you want a decent cup of coffee. And then if it's horrendous, you get pissed off. So why not notice, wow, this is the perfect temperature. It's just bitter enough, but a little sweet. And then you look up and you go, wow. And the sun's out this morning and it feels warm. And I find that when I bring perceptive or a sensory experience into the present moment and just romanticize your life, as the cliche would call, everything feels more novel.

57:36So we were having cheeseburgers the other night. I'm just like, how fun is this? You know, we got to watch, I got to watch my friend work out materially so excited about, and now we're eating a damn good cheeseburger. How good can it get? So my, that literally what I wrote about was three things. So like the original story that's part of it is, it comes at it from a different angle, but it's essentially this boy called Henry, which I think I've told on the Christmas show, but just for people who haven't heard it before, Henry is like five years old. He's playing that side on the streets of Connecticut and a cyclist doesn't see him, clatters into henry knocks him unconscious and his life becomes a bit strange he starts having seizures but by the age of 27 he's having 20 seizures per day um and he's desperate to fix it he's trying everything that he can and this is during like peak experimental brain surgery so he goes forward volunteers and wakes up and he basically gets delivered some good news some bad news some awful news by life so the good news is that the surgery's largely fixed his epilepsy the bad news is that he won't remember the good news because of the awful news and the awful news is that he's destroyed his ability to form new memories.

58:38So Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day, because he only can remember things in two minutes increments and then it disappears. So he meets his psychiatrist for the first time every day. But the most disturbing thing about Henry was he would look in the mirror each day and be confused why the reflection looks so old. Because he's just forgotten everything. He always thought he was 27, but now I'm 65, but now I'm at 72. He had some long-term memories. Like he was anchored at a certain time. Exactly, before 27. So it basically begs the question, you have all the Brian Johnsons of the world, which I think are great, like the longevity people, but very few people talk about time longevity.

59:14Because in theory, Henry lived a long life. He lived till 82. Or did he die at 27? And it's such an important part of memory. And the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it, there's a great book called Time Expansion, Dilution, I believe, that goes into this more in depth. But number one is novel experiences. So doing new things. number two is around both two and three are kind of what you said uh rolled into two different things so two is like trying to create stories so what's interesting is you don't remember your social media feed from yesterday um you can barely remember a tweet from yesterday despite the fact you scrolled past so many novel things but you can remember a movie from two years ago because we like character arcs we like purpose we like emotion we like a build-up so thinking about your kind of day or life into a story like what would the hero do next and then the third one was very closely tied to what you said too which is like this japanese concept which i'm going to butcher but called like ichigo ichi which is essentially this idea that every moment even if it is a recurring moment because you're not gonna be able to novel max every single day um but even right now we're all this exact age that we are in the studio for the first time um so whenever you look for the specific details exactly like you did there, time itself does begin to slow down.

1:00:33It's amazing. The novelty thing is such a huge part. I mean, I wrote about this seven years ago, badly. And then again, 18 months ago, slightly better. And the two things, novelty and intensity, were what I sort of landed on. And you're right. It is really, really important. People don't want to miss their lives. Objectively arrive, but subjectively not feel it. And this thing, this sort of sense of stuff rushing past. I think it's something that's particularly felt by people that are optimizers because by virtue of optimizing, you find what works and then you rinse and repeat it. That's what routine is.

1:01:05And the problem with that is it actually compresses time together. My best, my favorite example of this is your drive to work. Your drive to work is something that you've done 500, 1 ,000, 2 ,000 times throughout your life, throughout that one job, that one office. Can you tell me anything unique about that drive? It's compressed into basically a single memory, except for that one day when it was icy and the car skidded backward. Well, what's that? That's novelty and intensity. And it's also called the holiday effect. Why is it that holidays seem to stretch out? I think about this trip I took to Africa nearly a decade ago with an ex-girlfriend.

1:01:41And I can remember the squeak of the leather shoes of the porter and the ornithology book, this weathered ornithology book that he was carrying. and the steps down, the steps were rickety and he, the bellboy, offered to carry my bag, but I felt bad, so I took... I can't remember the fucking 16-digit number on the front of my credit card that I've had for fucking three years. Why? Well, because novelty and intensity. And the more that I think people can just try and ratchet that into their lives... And it's strange because if you have too much novelty, you end up with chaos and you don't actually gain any of the benefits of consistency and reliability.

1:02:17Yeah, there's no compounding because the environment changes so quickly that you can't get any in there. Right. But yeah, you've hit on something I think super important. Well, it's cool because like who lives it? Because I see all this advice, right? Whether it's on X or it's in podcasts and it's like, here's a study or here's a quote I love. But it's like, okay, are you doing this? How are you doing this? What do you do? Like I like your burger example. And then if you could find somebody in your life that actually lives that way, it's like a game changer because super contagious once you just notice the delta like if i sit next to you and i notice that you sit differently or that you eat differently when we go in order it's very apparent to me when my peers do something different than me and so for me like my my trainer is a guy who basically is like imagine never having listened to any of the podcasts and self-help at all but you just did all those things that's basically him these guys like i've I've seen him probably five days a week for the last five years.

1:03:16And it shows. And also he, I've never seen him have a bad day. Like not even like in a bad mood. I could be late. He can get in a fender bender. Never, never seen this guy rocked. And so that's kind of like seeing a billionaire, but for mood. It's like, what? I don't know what that is, but that's incredible. You have a lot of good mood. How do you do this shit? And he tells me, because I've noticed, what does he do differently? He's always playing little mind games, little mini games. So I've told the story once before on our podcast, but people have come up to me like years later mentioning like, I love that story about your trainer.

1:03:47And it's this DMV story. I don't know if I've never told you, but he had to go to the DMV. So he comes to my house and he's like, he's like, dude, he's like, today's the day. I'm like, what's, what's today? And he goes, I've been driving for the last two years with an expired license. And it's been this low underlying anxiety every time I drive of what if I get pulled over, I've got this expired license. And he's like, I've just been avoiding going to the DMV because DMV is terrible. He goes, so today I did something different. It basically, he went on Yelp and he went to go look, where's the DMV?

1:04:15And it has like, Google has like star ratings or Yelp has like ratings. So DMV is basically like the lowest rated venue on Yelp. And so it was like one and a half stars. And he goes, He's like, how do I have a five-star DMV experience? So he just asks himself a new question, creates a game out of it. And he's like, okay. He's like, I can't go there and expect them to give me five-star hospitality. He's like, I'm going to go as a five-star customer. So he just changes his mindset. He's like, I will go as a five-star customer and I think I'll have a five-star experience. So he goes, he parks, he walks in with a little pep in his step.

1:04:47He holds the door. He's not trying to rush in line. He's like, you guys all go. Yeah, yeah, go. I'll be behind you. and one of the women that he let in actually she was working there she was just doing a shift change he's joking around with her sort of flirting with her on the way in um this sort of like big old lady at the dmv and so she's like what are you here for honey and he's like i gotta get my license i've been driving without it you know expired for two years and like today's the day it's gonna be amazing when i get this license i'm gonna feel so good and she goes you know what come with me takes him front of the line gets him the thing he's supposed to do a driving test she just signs off on it, gets him his license.

1:05:19He ends up having this five-star experience at the DMV, which was kind of like running the four-minute mile or something. It's like this, like, if you can have a great experience at the DMV, you can have a great experience in any condition, right? Like, I don't need to achieve X to have great experience. And so his five-star DMV has stuck with me because now you can play that game pretty much any, I'm going through TSA right now. How do I, like, how do I have five-star, what if I was James Bond and how I kind of smoothly went through this versus just dragging ass like I normally do. And I found that that's like novelty without being like, today I need to go on this new hike, new vacation, new thing, because that's hard to do and most people can't do it.

1:05:56What I like is he brought the novelty into like the everyday and you become sort of invincible when you do that. He romanticized his DMV experience. Correct. That's exactly what he did. Which is different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience. Yes. I hit on the lady who's giving me the license and it works every single time. Come on now. You know what? That's a beautiful, to make it practical, that is a beautiful example of something you alluded to earlier, which I think is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about, which is being childlike. In the Bible, God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith, to be like children in everything that we do.

1:06:32And somewhere along the way, we grow up and we start taking everything so seriously. And you said earlier, you said, just wait, when you have a kid and everything's novel, you can spin this. And they're like, whoa, because everything is now. That was Disneyland right there. Exactly. That's why I think it's so important in the Bible, the ultimate self-help book. It's such good advice. Just be childlike in everything that you do and that pulls you into the present moment. Huberman did a mini-sode recently on the importance of play in longevity and how as we get old, we just stop playing and stop moving in that way and we die from that.

1:07:06And in my life lately, I've just been like the curious six-year-old inside of me again. What did we do in the park the other day? We played. We threw the ball. We walked past. I know that you used to have a basketball in front of you on your plot. We did a pod and he was just a mini leather basketball. I always have this little ball with me. And he's just tossing it around. It's so fun. And we were walking through the park and some dog must have just left a relatively good conditioned tennis ball. Like, okay, we're turning around and spent 15 minutes just unloading on our rotator cuffs. I'm still...

1:07:35You hear that? Yeah, what was that? Was that audible? It's like a full on. but it was it was such a just little kid young boy moment because at the same time chris and i are walking and we both see the ball and i bend down as i'm bending down chris goes yep and we didn't say anything yep and we immediately started playing toss yep i just burned 20 minutes it was just so fun i have this uh phrase sorry i have this phrase called uh uh dogs kids and dead people and it's like what is that it's basically that's who i want to spend time with and learn from because you want to learn about like unconditional love, be with a dog, right?

1:08:11A dog is like loyal. It's a great friend. It's a great pet, right? Then kids are just like childlike wonder about everything. And the dead people is like, rather than spending my time consuming tweets and TikToks that people put 20 seconds into, it's like this guy put 20 years of his life into this book. Like go hang with the dead. You'll, you know, it'll be better for you. And so just hanging, changing who I hung with, kids, dogs, and dead people was like a pretty big game changer for, you know overall enjoyment who's your favorite dead person that you've discovered um who's my favorite dead person i discovered right now i'm hanging right now like i told you i was reading this like stoicism book and so uh which is like whatever pretty cliche but there's a guy who wrote a book that basically summarizes like here's what aristotle was saying here's what socrates is saying then this guy was all about suffering to prove himself so he kind of lived a pretty tough life this guy was doing this and they exiled him to this island it's basically like a walk through all the stoics and it's pretty good it's like it summarizes all of them and like the slight nuances of the different schools of thought that they had because they were basically all influencers and so one guy had this school of thought he influenced he got all these people behind him and then this other guy branched out spun it off and was like yeah it's that but without the suffering it's way more fun over here and then they all got really popular and so on and so forth and so they're all dead now but learning from their you know their philosophies obviously is so valuable.

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1:11:27There's a great speaking, I think he's dead now. He wrote this in the fifties. Have you heard of, um, uh, masturbation? Well, not, no, no. I'm assuming you pronounce that as an Indian man. Yeah. It's when you're, you watch a video of a mom with that. Bring him in, bring him in. Bring in the mother. We've got an active shooter. Um, so, um, uh, basically it's, he's a guy called um ellis and he had it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy so it's like a it's like a spin-off of cognitive behavioral therapy and essentially his idea i think it's lovely is that he basically has like a very very small rule because everything's fair game apart from you can never use the word must to yourself or like this has to happen and what i've actually realized with a lot a lot of things with myself is you almost because you try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up there's two things there's either choking which is when you overthink, when you think too much in the moment, like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot.

1:12:27Or there's, what's the opposite of choking? It's - Clutch, like coming through in the clutch? No, there's panicking. So panicking is when you don't think at all and you just do something reckless. So like scuba divers that will just grab the oxygen when they know they shouldn't do it. They can see themselves, but they do it. So overthink and underthink. Exactly. So, um, uh, uh, R-E-B-T essentially this masturbation idea, he essentially has this concept, which you can basically say anything about yourself, desire anything, but never say, oh, this podcast has to go well today, has to go well today or else.

1:13:02Because as soon as you do that, you activate the fight or fight response. right and you know it's like a lot of people that are type a people that probably listen to this sort of shit um it's often like an extreme statement so you can still say i really want this to go well it's not like stoicism where it's like whatever happens happens none of it matters because you kind of lose a little bit of the edge but you just i really want this to go well today and even if it doesn't i'll be okay and it's just that little bit at the edge that just gets it in that perfect like goldalock zone between the two which i think some which i missed by stoicism.

1:13:33It's almost a degree of surrender behind the intention. Surrendering to the experience and being fully open to whatever comes up, but hoping it goes a certain way. My friend Nick Comadina has this great quote, we live in a universe that what we run from chases us and what we chase runs from us. So if you're constantly, if we sit down like, God, this has to be a banger. It has to be a profound conversation. It would be the opposite of all of those things. And Tom Cruise probably never would have walked in. But we just sat down to shoot the shit and it's been a blast. It's a degree of surrender with an intention or hope that it goes a certain way, but also giving into the experience.

1:14:05I did this emotions retreat with Joe Hudson in September, and it was 12 hours a day for seven days on a flower farm in Santa Rosa of just very, very deep, very difficult emotional work. And you had to write an intention before you went in. And this intention would go on this huge piece of paper and we'd be writing loads of stuff and it was on the wall and everybody could see what it was that you'd written throughout the week. And some people's intentions were really big and really grand. And I felt really stupid. I was kind of ashamed of mine because it felt so small and it felt so silly. And by the end of the week, I'd just completely fallen in love with it.

1:14:40And it's my favorite definition of safety now, of emotional safety, of feeling like you're enough, of feeling like you belong, of feeling like you're supposed to be there. And it was, I'm okay, no matter what happens. And that sense of this goes well, this goes badly, the power goes out, it doesn't, Tom Cruise comes in, Bonnie Blue, like whatever goes on, I'm okay no matter what happens. And just that, again, that sort of sense of relaxing, it's a little bit of Jhana, the meditation technique that me and George are playing with at the moment. But on the good luck, bad luck thing, I came across a quote that I'd already seen a bunch and I wrote about it this week.

1:15:14Cormac McCarthy, you never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from. and uh there's this line uh i told this story to george this week and he was able to work out who it was but it's fucking fantastic so in the mid 90s there was a single mother living in near poverty in edinburgh when she left her first marriage it wasn't a quiet parting she's described the relationship as abusive she's fled to portugal with her baby daughter and a suitcase that contained the early chapters of a book that she was working on at one point her ex-husband hid the manuscript, trying to prevent her from leaving with it.

1:15:48She was clinically depressed and contemplating suicide. She couldn't afford to heat her flat properly, so she pushed a pram to cafes to write while her daughter slept. The manuscript was rejected by 12 publishers. That's 12 people telling her in different ways that it wasn't good enough. The rejection wasn't abstract, it was survival level. If the book failed, so did her last attempt at building a life. The humiliation of those refusals became momentum. J.K. Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter series globally and became richer than the queen. You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from.

1:16:22Fucking money, dude. She has a great line where she goes, rock bottom is the most solid foundation to build from. Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says, psychology is biology. And basically you can't try and trick... What's your thing about trying to think your way out of overthinking is like trying to sniff your way out of cocaine addiction. It's so fucking... Banger, George! All right, where you got? Have you guys seen the... You've probably all seen this. You've seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral. It's pretty... Have you been following this? So the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a promotional event for the new Big Arch, which kind of worked because it went viral, but not for the right reason.

1:17:06So I don't know if you've seen this. Check this out. With, you've heard about it, here it is, the Big Arch. First of all, is this what you thought he'd look like? tested all day in Portugal, Germany, Canada. I love this product. It is so good. I'm going to do a tasting right now, but I'm going to eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So here we go. Holy cow. God, that is a big burger. We've got a very unique kind of sesame poppy sort of bun on it. We've got two quarter pound patties, a delicious big orange sauce, and of course some lettuce. So, oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing.

1:17:48It's like me trying to unhook a bra for the first time. If you had my narration. All right. The moment of treat.

1:18:00It's barely gone. That is so good. That's a big bite for a big bite. It's distinctively McDonald's. Only McDonald's could be this type of burger, but it also is unlike anything else on our menu. It's a delicious product. You know, you've got sort of the cheeses and the gooeyness, but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture. And of course, we've got the pickles. So I'm going to enjoy the rest of my lunch, but Big Arch, try it when you can get it. Sort of cheeses is a great way to describe whatever's on that burger. You know, he's basically like lying when he's like, I'm going to eat this later off camera, but I'm definitely going to eat this.

1:18:38Yeah, totally. I want to be clear. I'm going to finish I do this all the time. That made me feel physically ill. That made me feel physically uncomfortable to watch that. It's like watching an android try to be a human. It was very strange. How did that get out? Like from the lab? Like a lab leak? What do you mean? Like the actual video. That wasn't him catching something. Oh, no. Let's go. It's so big, you aren't sure. Let's go. Ben, look at the tie length on Ben. can we just admire you may have to turn around turn around to the camera show the show the length of the tie that's your camera Ben wore his son's tie do we all try the big arch with the McDonald's CEO bite wait wait are you passing can you just reenact reenact the CEO yeah what was it like he was picking up an active IED first

1:19:32calls the red wire to the big arch enjoy the product Michael the product this is a great product wow this is mechanically engineered oh it's so it's so we all got big arches it's so wet it is unbelievable all right i'm gonna take a big bite for a big guy you know that scene in spongebob crabby patty it's just the tiniest little bit of oh wow oh it's medium rare that's good that's good i want my mcdonald's beef to be medium rare did it maintain the perfect good product on this Does it still maintain its perfect circular shape? That's a unique poppy seed. I've never seen a bun like that. He said, we have sort of a sesame pop.

1:20:13What do you mean sort of? A sesame seed. I'm really fucking. I love the way he used the word product. A good rule of thumb is no consumer uses the word product or consumer. Yeah. I shall now consume product, everybody. Hello, fellow kids. Would you like to consume product? Is it good? No, Bob's. Yeah, how is the big arch actually? That's what he should have done. if he made me want to eat it. But luckily, I already love the double quarter pounder. So this is great. It's not that special. But yeah, basically the CEO decided that he was going to fucking torpedo himself. Yeah. It's so funny to think, how did that get out?

1:20:49As if that wasn't meant to be for public consumption. Yes. Well, I wonder if they, maybe a Machiavellian thing from the social media manager. You think it's an accidental? I thought that was a promo. Nobody's that smart. Jared, throw up the meme I have on the dock of the McDonald's thing. It's so funny. I quite like it. When Ben was looking for his McDonald's uniform, he went on Facebook Marketplace. This is the CEO of McDonald's right now. Jesus fucking Christ. He goes on Facebook Marketplace and he found somebody who was selling a uniform. And she goes like, oh yeah, sure. You need it for work?

1:21:30And Ben was like, yeah, I need it for work. That's the actual uniform. No. And then, well, the woman you were messaging was trying to get the uniform, and then she looked him up and was like, it doesn't look like you work at McDonald's. And she got creeped out and did not give him the McDonald's uniform, so he had to make his own. You made that? My wife beat this one, yeah. That's unbelievable. She ironed on the M. Did she make the tie, too, or did you get that at Baby Gap? That's the perfect length, man. I think Ben's been in uniform waiting for the big arch moment with Tom Cruise in the green room.

1:22:05There's fucking Ben in a McDonald's uniform and Tom Cruise. This might be the completely original scenario. This doesn't exist in any other timelines or realities. Correct. In a thousand universes, there's only one where Ben was dressed as a McDonald's guy next to a Tom Cruise impersonator waiting to give us the food. During the break, I said, oh, can I get a napkin? Tom Cruise spilled new tonic on the table. I said, now that's a sentence that's never been said before. The first of your bloodline. to ever do that. I give that out of 10 on three. Say your rating. Ready? One, two, three. Seven. Interesting.

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1:24:31it's a freaking lizard man dude if i was ever on the fence about that conspiracy he just proved it yeah but like if zuck it took 20 years for zuck to do this transformation right do you remember when he was also like a lizard he literally had like a thing where you could find this where he was like uh i was a human i am a human i i am i am a human right he literally was doing that the sweet baby rays yep and now he's just like swagged out and awesome and like based yeah that's what happens you get four-figure testosterone everything goes well all right um how about i tell you about this have you heard of the beer mile the beer mile yes you must have heard of i won one last year yes you want to be a mile beat devon levesque in the beer mile at running do you want to explain what it is can we guess it's yeah george what is your guess what is the beer mile you drink beer and run during before directionally accurate during so the beer mile is I wish I was being facetious when I said this.

1:25:28I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run because it's such an acute pain for such a short time. So the goal of the beer mile is simple. You run one mile and every quarter mile you have a beer. So over the course of one mile, you drink four beers. So the gun goes off beer one quarter lap, beer two quarter lap, three quarter lap, four. There's a great photo. I wish I'd known you bringing it up of me. We'll call it an action shot immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours just oh just exiting all of the beer that i had so that's the should we create the big arch mile i would do that interesting that you talk about the b mile how about the two beers two cigs two rubik's cubes speed run yeah jared uh this is if you were to look at your kind of elementary version of a physical challenge.

1:26:20Feels like it now. You know, let's... Oh, he's got Ben's tie. My time to beat is 3 minutes 33 seconds. I can't remember the warm record, but it's around a minute 30. You can see it up here. Will I beat that? If I'm the other one, but I'm hoping for under 10 minutes. Also, the up-top camera is dead, so hopefully... This guy's just on his patio. Let's do this. And he's got the special... There we go. I mean, that first beer is what? Four gulps? Nice. Watch him rip this sig watch him rip this thing it is absolutely absurd how do you even speed smoke a cigarette like that just like this that's i think technically sprint smoking a sig it's uh holy shit it's working is usain bolting that motherfucker that's it is unbelievable the hair the suit it's really scott adams's talent stack in its purest form isn't it yeah yeah bear's interesting a unicycle's interesting but a bear on a unicycle is fucking fascinating And then two cigs.

1:27:20So there's got to be a strategy here, right? He starts off with the beer. He needs the Joey Chestnut double dip. Two cigs at once. I don't think you can do it. I think he must not be able to do it. But look at his cumin. Oh, but see, he's doing this. He's going to be dried up from the cig, so he'll want beer after the second cig. I think that's the way it goes. Yeah. I wish they had a shot of his dad crying inside. Watch this. Does he have like a whoop on? We need like a live tracker. What's his strain after this activity? He's on track for a world record here, right? and he must be thinking well I guess you got a lot of nicotine in you but he needs to down the beer quickly is it a world record?

1:27:55this is the new world record was he creating the world record? no he was trying to beat it it was 130 something I like your idea we need to get this guy in touch with hands down George there's tens of them out there doing this 128.3 dude wow wow.

1:28:19Imagine if he realized the camera wasn't rolling the paint. Who is this small Asian kid he just showed? I think he's just called someone out. The former champion. Yeah, that was the former champion that we know well. Jesus Christ. That was something. Well, yeah. I mean, that's what you've got to do next. The two beers, two Sigs, two Rubik's Cube speedrun. I did get challenged to do, because I talked about the beer modeling content i got challenged to do the filet-o-fish mile because i'm convicted on the fact that i think the filet-o-fish is the ultimate fast food sandwich okay and so i think what i'll do is i'll run a quarter mile and every quarter mile swim to alcatraz down a filet-o-fish swim down another filet-o-fish mentally i'll already be in alcatraz it doesn't matter where we swim that's what uh that's what ross edgley is great at so ross was the first guy to swim around the uk he did it in nine months, something like that.

1:29:08And he swam six hours on, six hours off for nine months. He was just biphasic sleeping, six hours on, six hours off. And I had him on the show 18 months ago. And I was trying to work out like, what the fuck is it with this guy? He's jacked. He's got this sort of never unhappy fucking mentality, which is kind of crazy. But what is it really that causes him to be so good? And I realized it's the fact his digestion system, like his capacity to digest food. For instance, he swam the longest river in Canada. I think he's done the longest river swim unbroken, 50 hours that he swam for without touching land, without stopping, 50 hours of swimming.

1:29:49Yeah. So delirious. He tried to do it in Italy and got hypothermia, then tried to do it in America and got hypothermia, and then tried to do it in Canada and did it. he was so cold that the best way that he could heat his body was with piping hot porridge like burning scalding hot porridge that he just ate and it warmed him from the inside like wearing a hot water bottle and uh i realized he's able i don't know about you if i eat something i have to be upright if i try and lie down it's so fucking uncomfortable i want to burp it's awful he's able to do it while swimming not only is he fucking horizontal motherfuckers swimming so yeah i uh he's actively eating while striding in the water no he'll stop and tread water and they'll throw like a banana on a bucket and he'll just fucking force a banana down and pour uh protein shakes and porridge and shit video of this guy didn't you swim like the entire coastline of iceland or some shit the circumnavigated iceland yeah ice swimming for this it's i mean it's the the mad thing about it is he makes it look so effortless like lots of people that do crazy things yeah it's not that rubik's cube thing that is hilarious right watching ross do it it's just business as usual if you've done it twice a day for nine months just business as usual he's a fucking freak it's crazy well you know the only thing i was gonna do we've had like a lot of america chat and not much british chat you two yanks dominating things so uh hell yeah we do Let's go, baby.

1:31:21That's such a difference in reaction immediately. We have a fist bump, don't we? The European mind could never comprehend. The fuck is a kilometer? We don't know either. Okay, we don't use it. So I've got one of my favorite accounts called Mental UK Headlines. So it's just different like mental shit that's happened in the UK. But it's like it's a specific type of mentalness that would only happen in the UK. So I was thinking, can you give me like the gong? You know, like the news station gong? Bong. grandfather banned from u.s holiday after accidentally ticking terrorist box on visa form rescuers learned that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry

1:32:06sean that must have been you that's a good one have you ever googled your birthday and florida man oh yeah no fucking what's your birthday april 25th april 25th florida man in google please how do you know that why do you know that a florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster wow oh 25th or 20th i love it uh no that's right that's right 20th not hillers no i know it's not okay good there we go open that up tried to ride an inflatable balloon to the Bermuda Triangle. Nice. Hamster ball to the Bahamas. Wow, that got more extreme. A Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster.

1:32:49See, that's respectable. Ball to the Bahamas. Ride a hamster was definitely exciting, but in a different way. Yeah. Look at that at the bottom. Orlando's first free STD testing and treatment clinic. Amazing. Hook up with us. No judgment, no cost, just care. Only the first one. How fantastic. All right, Orlando Weekly. We need to subscribe. Yeah, minus Florida man arrested after dumping heaps of dirt on girlfriend's car heaps is an interesting word how much this constitutes the arrest heaps too much jail there's a hilarious reddit post on angry girlfriends uh this girlfriend went and posted in the uh am i the asshole subreddit about her boyfriend uh jared see if you could pull this up it's uh yeah am i the asshole he's been raiding every meal she cooked for him for like secretly for over a year.

1:33:39And she got a glimpse of the spreadsheet and took a secret photo and posted on Reddit. Like, am I overreacting basically to this spreadsheet? And so it'd be like, you know, spaghetti and meatballs, 7.7. And yeah, this is the screenshot. So she took this. Zoom in. Yeah. You got to zoom in. That's where the magic is. There's really two incredible things in this screenshot. The first is the rating system and the count. So she's made spaghetti and meatballs 282 times. The rating is 7.7. The average rating, 7.5. So, you know, she did a little above average this time. But the trend, three arrows up like the stock market.

1:34:16Spaghetti and meatballs is doing well. But then all the women in the comment section are just ripping them because he's also got like AI open asking how to grow his calves.

1:34:28It's like all the women are like, well, tell that little bird calf bitch that he needs to do this, this, and this. To increase your calf size, you must combine training that targets both the gastroc and the soleus, the deeper flatter muscle. In daily life, they're normally fatigue resistant, specializing techniques. Fucking hell. What was the lowest rating average overall? Chicken tacos, 6.9. Chicken stir fry, 6. 6.5. Oh, yeah, the average 6.5 there. That's not good. That's a tough dish, though. It has to work an audit at Ernst & Young or something. This is insane. That's fucking fantastic. I'm so glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because I found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear.

1:35:10And I am terrified of this. Have you guys ever given any attention to this? The whole underwear thing, cotton clothing and how it's a big part of the health and wellness world? Austin Floyd's massive on it. He won't shut up about it. Okay, do you do? Do you pay attention? Bamboo cotton. I listen to him. I listen to stuff. What is it, microplastics? That's the issue or something else? I think we're all effectively as we sit here nuking our nuts. That's what I've gathered from this study. So a study on Twitter from the never controversial account Carnivore Aurelius says, ladies, you need to be wearing cotton underwear.

1:35:40Now this is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well. Polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone 90%, which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't do them anymore. Do we draw the line at making dogs infertile through human underwear? Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90 % from 50 nanograms per milliliter to 5, and 75 % of them couldn't get pregnant. Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production. 100 % cotton only if you want babies. I have never paid any attention to this now and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear.

1:36:14I thought this was fascinating. I'm doing the opposite. I'm going to do this as a form of birth control. Rather than a vasectomy, I'm just going to start polyester. I think I'm speed running infertility and I didn't even realize it from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle. So maybe a good incentive. George, what's your concern level? You constantly tell me about the sauna as well, right? The saunas. That's why we've got Nutsicles in the freezer. You have Nutsicles at the house. Nutsicles in the freezer. That's a Brian Johnson move right there. Yeah. I've been doing it since - Is that a branded thing or you're calling it that?

1:36:44No, no, no. Nutsicles. They are purpose-built. Search. Just Google Nutsicles for me, please, Charlie. There's a problem. There's a guy in a Shopify store. Nutsicles. The dropshimmers are undefeated. Like popsicles, but Nutsicles. And yeah, they just - Brian made this really great point, which is my sperm count went up a lot by me going in the sauna. Like, but it only happened when I iced my, they were there on the top left. Look at those. So they're special pants. I don't wear the pants because the pants are polyester. But I do just use. The irony of that. I know. But I just pop those on the outside.

1:37:17And oh, I don't want to see the fucking person. Don't show me the demo, please. Oh, okay. Is he drinking a beer? Go back. It's supposed to be for vasectomy recovery. or something bring him through yeah

1:37:35honestly if ben comes in with a fucking pair of nutsicles i think we found the hook for the show everything bring him through the viral person shows up and has to answer um yeah basically brian couldn't work out whether or not his sperm count went up because sauna is great for his body or because he was icing his balls for 40 minutes a day so it might actually have just been the fact that he was putting them in a really cool environment that was helping to foster fucking... Well, that's why they're in the sack in the first place, right? Correct. But you're talking about something that's come out of the fucking freezer.

1:38:09Like, oh, this is a little bit... I have a friend who does the face plunge you mentioned earlier to change his physiology to his nuts every single morning. Oh, like the nut dunk? Wait, why didn't you say this when I mentioned the face plunge? Well, we had... You held a secret close. You're talking about panic attacks. I wouldn't have thought, ah, testicles, yes. he every morning for many years now he has dunked his nuts in a and i was like but how do you i didn't ask for the demo but he literally just sits down into an ice bowl every morning for about two minutes and he said he's noticed difference in uh the way it hangs if you will and his sperm count also went up and his member appears healthier and fuller now pretty interesting stuff so honestly Well, I mean, between that and sunning the fucking butthole, I guess you can go from one to the other.

1:38:56That's basically contrast therapy, but just for your fucking groin, eh? Yeah, that's exactly right. Boys, I appreciate you being here. First one in the new studio, some technical issues and all the rest of it. I hope everyone enjoyed Tom Cruise and everything else. I'm really excited. Thank you for being – this feels like a real special moment to be able to do this for the first one. So go to McDonald's, get yourself a big arch, and we'll see you next time. All right. Yes, we did it. Amazing. Let's fucking go. All right, dinner. I'm late for dinner. Dinner. Love you. All right.

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