Presidential Candidate Platforms Explained: No Tax on Tips

11 Oct 2024 · 7 min

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Episode Title

Presidential Candidate Platforms Explained: No Tax on Tips

Episode Description In this episode, Nicole Lapin breaks down a surprising area of agreement between presidential candidates Donald Trump and Kamala Harris regarding the proposal to eliminate taxes on tips. She explores the implications of this policy, its potential beneficiaries, and its overall impact on workers, especially in the service industry.

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Key Discussions

Overview of the No Tax on Tips Proposal

  • Both Trump and Harris support eliminating income tax on tips.
  • Aimed at assisting lower-income service industry workers who often rely on tips for their income.
  • The proposal could potentially increase take-home pay for tipped workers.

Concerns and Limitations

  • Economists' Warnings: Concerns that wealthy individuals may exploit this policy by reclassifying their income as tips.
  • Example: Billionaires redefining income to evade taxes.
  • Income Limits:
  • Harris proposes implementing strict requirements to prevent high earners from taking advantage, indicating a need for caps.
  • Trump has not specified income limitations but likely would need to address similar concerns.

Impact on Workers

  • Service Industry Workers:
  • Workers relying heavily on tips would see a direct benefit with potentially increased take-home pay.
  • Geographic disparities affect the degree of benefit (e.g., South Carolina vs. California).
  • Yale Study Findings:
  • Only 2.5% of workers would significantly benefit from the no-tax-on-tips policy.
  • Many tipped workers either do not file taxes or report their income.

Broader Economic Implications

  • Potential loss of hundreds of billions of dollars in tax revenue over a decade.
  • The average family tax cut may not be substantial, but any reduction in tax obligations is meaningful, particularly in the context of stimulus checks.

Public Reaction

  • Frustration with Tipping Culture:
  • The growing presence of tip screens in various service scenarios may frustrate consumers who feel employers should ensure livable wages.

Conclusion

  • Regardless of the election outcome, if either candidate's proposal is enacted, the taxation of tips will change.

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Financial Tip of the Day

  • Augusta Rule: Homeowners can rent out their home for 14 days tax-free without reporting the income. This is a beneficial strategy for generating extra income, provided renters do not exceed the 14-day limit to maintain the tax-exempt status.

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Call to Action

  • Nicole invites listeners to email their money-related questions to moneyrehab@moneynewsnetwork.com for potential inclusion in future episodes. She encourages people to follow on social media for more financial insights and content.

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Episode Credits

  • Host: Nicole Lapin
  • Executive Producer: Morgan Lavoie
  • Researcher: Emily Holmes

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3:15Okay, it's time to break down another economic proposal of the 2024 presidential race so you know how you would be affected. The next one up is no income tax on tips. And this is a policy that both Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump want. I know, they agree. The insanity. In many places in the U.S., workers in the service industry are paid less than minimum wage because of the promise of tips. So this proposal is aimed at supporting lower income workers, and that is definitely a good thing. But when the proposal came out, immediately economists were like, this means that billionaires are going to start redefining their income as tips.

3:55We should all chill out on that one. No matter who the president is, there will probably be limitations on this rule. Tax will probably be applied on tip-based income above a certain amount, so no, Jeff Bezos can't claim a billion-dollar tip. The billionaire bros have enough tax loopholes anyway. They don't need another one. Harris has already come out and said this. She would come up with a proposal that includes an income limit with, quote, strict requirements to prevent hedge fund managers and lawyers from structuring their compensation in ways to take advantage of the policy. Trump has yet to make a comparable statement, but it is hard to believe that a proposal like this would make it very far without some kind of income limit.

4:34So I'd imagine he'd incorporate some caps. So how will you be affected? Well, if you work in the service industry and you make a majority of income from tips, your take-home pay is going to go up. And that is great. But how significantly this will actually be for you will depend on how much money you make in tips, obviously, and more interestingly, where you live. NPR notes that restaurant servers in South Carolina would benefit a lot from this policy because in South Carolina, restaurant owners can have reduced minimum wage in exchange for making a lot of their income through tips. But in my home state of California, where tips make up a smaller portion of income, they benefit less.

5:14So this is a complicating factor because if you make$60 ,000 a year in California and in South Carolina, your take-home pay could look really different even if you make the exact same amount. There's also the question of just how meaningful this really is for lower-income workers. A study from the Budget Lab at Yale University found that only 2.5 % of workers would benefit from a no-tax-on-tips policy. This is in part because of servers whose income is primarily through salary and not tips. But there are two reasons also. First, not all tipped workers need to file taxes. And second, not all tipped workers report all of their taxes.

5:52According to the same study from Yale, more than a third of tipped workers didn't pay income tax in 2022 because they made less than the income required to file a tax return. This year, if you're under 65, you don't need to file a tax return if you make under$13 ,850. Some economists are saying that this tax cut won't be that big of a deal because the average tax cut for families would be around$1 ,700. But I disagree because that is not nothing. That is the amount of the stimulus check after all. But it is going to be meaningful for our national budget. Congress will lose a couple hundred billion dollars over the next 10 years because of this.

6:30If you don't work in the service industry and you're already feeling like you're seeing tip machines in way too many places, you are going to be a little peeved. I think the valid frustration about the rise of the tip machine is that it passes the employer's responsibility to give their employees a livable wage off to the customers. Employers, your employees should be making good money, but that is not on me, boo. That is on you. But no matter who wins the election, the next president, if they stick to their platform, will stop taxing tips. And so if you're hoping the tip screen will not be spun around in your face as much, that is not going anywhere.

7:08For today's tip, you can take straight to the bank. There's another kind of income that you can claim tax-free. You can rent out your house for 14 days and not report that income on your tax return, and it is totally legal. It's called the Augusta Rule, and it's awesome. But you definitely can't push it because if you rent your house out for more than 14 days, you'll owe taxes on every single day your home is rented, and you can say goodbye to your tax-free income.

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8:17Thank you.

From the publisher

In the third installment of breaking down the economic proposals from Trump and Harris, Nicole explains what might be the only policy Trump and Harris agree on: ending tax on tips. Today, Nicole explains what the policy would look like, who would be eligible, and how you would be affected. 

To read more on the difference between Trump and Harris' platforms, click here:https://www.cfr.org/election2024/candidate-tracker

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