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Podcast Summary: How AI Will Change the Music Industry Forever with will.i.am | Moonshots with Peter Diamandis EP #70
Podcast Overview Title: How AI Will Change the Music Industry Forever w/ will.i.am Host: Peter Diamandis Guest: will.i.am Description: This episode discusses the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) on creativity, ownership, and the human experience, featuring insights from musician and innovator will.i.am.
Episode Highlights
- Surprising Perspectives on AI (01:33)
- AI and Creativity: will.i.am shares unexpected views on how AI can enhance creativity rather than replace it.
- Ownership Issues: Discussion on the ethical implications of AI in mimicking voices and identities, stressing the importance of ownership for artists.
- Humanity's Role: Acknowledgment that as machines take on more mundane tasks, humanity must become more human in its interactions.
- Uniting Creativity and Technology (08:21)
- Innovative Ventures: will.i.am discusses his app for creatives, emphasizing the need for dedicated platforms to support creative work.
- Collaboration with AI: Insights into how AI can serve as a co-creator rather than just a tool, transforming the creative process.
- The Need for Inclusivity: Emphasis on bringing diverse voices and experiences into tech and AI development to combat algorithmic bias.
- Transforming Communities Through Empowerment (52:41)
- STEAM Advocacy: will.i.am's commitment to STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, and Math) education as a means of community upliftment.
- Personal Journey: Reflecting on his childhood and how it shaped his desire for change, including his philanthropic efforts.
- Creating Opportunities: Discussion on creating a school focused on research and development for underserved communities.
Key Concepts and Discussions
AI and the Future of Creativity
- AI as a Partner: will.i.am believes AI will empower hyper-creatives, allowing them to explore ideas without traditional limitations.
- Ethical Considerations: The importance of protecting individual identities from being commodified by AI.
The Digital Divide
- Access to Technology: Concerns about the widening gap between those with technological access and those without, and its implications for opportunities in the future.
- Algorithmic Bias: The necessity for diverse participation in AI development to ensure fair representation.
Personal Experiences and Insights
- Philanthropy and Community Impact: will.i.am's journey from poverty to success, and how he uses his platform to advocate for positive change in his community.
- The Role of Mentorship: Discusses the importance of mentorship and support for youth in tech and creative fields.
Conclusion The conversation between Peter Diamandis and will.i.am illuminates the transformative potential of AI in the music industry and beyond. It highlights the importance of creativity, ownership, and the necessity of inclusive practices in technology. As we stand on the brink of significant technological advancement, the discussion encourages optimism while acknowledging the ethical challenges that come with such innovations.
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1:10We're skirting on a very thin line between authenticity, ownership. Do I own my facial math and facial recognition in AI right now? Nope. Does Beyonce own her timber? On her voice right now? Nope. We should, if Leonardo DiCaprio's voice can be mimicked and cloned to the T with AI, shouldn't he own that? Just by his, you know, physical right of how his timbers produce his voice, I believe that AI should not mimic a person. I'm preparing myself for this time where humanity has to be more human than we've ever been because machines are going to outdo a lot of the shit we used to do and it's going to force us and push us to be more human to one another.
2:01In March of 2023, Keith Farasi, the CEO of Farasi Greenlight and I sat down with Will I Am for an extraordinarily vulnerable conversation about Will's creative genius, his childhood to upbringing and his views on AI and how artificial intelligence is going to be empowering the next generation of creators. Who owns what when it comes to AI and the input it provides to creatives? We're going to dive into this with Will I Am? If you don't know Will, you will in a moment. He is a musician, a producer, the entrepreneur extraordinaire who has won multiple Grammys and sold over 33 million records worldwide.
2:43He's a technologist. He's an inventor. He's creating extraordinary software, which he'll tell you about. He's one of the biggest promoters and benefactors of first robotics. He's the creator of the I am angel of foundation. So sit back for a beautiful conversation with Will I am? And how one of the leading creative thinkers of our time views AI his views may surprise you. They did me. All right, jump in. This took place during my private summit of Bunnets 360 in March 2023. I'm super honored to introduce our next speaker who is a legend in many different industries, but also someone I consider a friend.
3:30He embodies leadership and innovation and a huge positive impact on many people in the world of entertainment of technology, of steam education, philanthropy, a key element of his global success really is his multi -tiered career track. And the amazing people he knows globally around the world, he most definitely is a futurist. Whenever I get a chance to see him, he is on the cutting edge. I mean, across all telecom, all compute platforms, He's teamed up with Accenture, an Apple, an Adam Bank, and Beats, and BBC, and Coca -Cola, and Gucci, and Honeywell, and IBM, and Intel, and ITV, and JP Morgan Chase, and Marvel, and Mercedes -Benz, and Microsoft, and Penguin Publishing, and Pepsi, and Salesforce, just a name of you.
4:26Like him, he and I are both huge fans of Dean Cayman, and I pride myself, again, to call a friend. Do you want to bring Will up on the stage and then embarrass him? Yeah, no, it's okay. Please welcome Will. I am.
4:48So on the embarrassment piece, I didn't quite know what to do with somebody who's been interviewed as much as he's been interviewed. So I thought, all right, let's make this easy. I'll go to chat GBT and ask, what are the five questions Will I does not want to answer. And so that's what we've got to start with. Just kidding. But by the way, you should do that. It's really interesting. So let me do a slightly different introduction. A very dear friend of mine has been working with Will and some of this philanthropic contributions in the world. And I said to him, I said, you know, one of the things that we wouldn't naturally know.
5:25And you probably know of his great musical talent, but you know that he actually sold more than 60 million records, one seven Grammys. Now, probably one of the most interesting songs that he's ever written actually won a presidential election. If we remember, yes, we can song and its contribution to the Obama election. And actually, if I'm not mistaken, he broadcasted a song from Mars in collaboration with NASA. I don't think you were personally there, but you've broadcasted it from there. Otherwise Peter would be terribly jealous if you were personally there. In terms of your philanthropy, he grew up in a very poor community in Boyle Heights, but he then went back there, which is one of the reasons of being here success to significance.
6:09He went back there and made sure that every one of the projects had 5G internet in the entire community if I'm not mistaken. His I AM Angel Foundation, now in Los Angeles alone serves 12 ,000 students in youth robotics. He gave $1 million to then Prince Charles to really start the stem cell program at the Prince's Trust. He also got in pretty early at Beats by Dre, which is probably not a bad investment after it exited, I believe, to Apple. Well, the end note, no one put money in that. That was just like ideas. Jimmy Irving is like the best, it's like my hero made to spread equity on that one.
6:52No, so I would come home for tours. Jim Bacilli was one of the first people that were like, you got crazy ideas, why don't you come up to Waterloo. So I fly up to Waterloo to the rim guys back in 2005, six, around that same time. There was Paul Jacobs and Jim Bacilli who would like encourage my wild crazy ideas. Paul Jacobs from Qualcomm? Yeah. They were like, you know, took me serious going to Global GSM in Barcelona. And I came home one year in 2006 and told Jimmy, let's use our music to sell our own stuff. Let's make our own stuff. Because Jimmy one year was like, you know what, well, maybe we need to make ketchup.
7:39I met the Heinz family. They took tomatoes, put some sugar in it. The billionaires! We need to find our ketchup! So one year I come on like, yo Jimmy just make our own shit. Sell our own stuff bro like we're always selling somebody else's stuff Imagine if we sell our own stuff so they in 2007 he's like, you know, I was walking on the beach with Dre And his manager wants to miss out sneakers and I remember our talk that we had last year and I told Dre fuck sneakers, let's sell speakers. You wanna be a part of it? I'm like, yeah, but I was thinking of my computers as shit. He was like, yeah, we're gonna start with headphones and we're gonna do computers.
8:28And that's how we, how it all started. So I had like a small piece. Well, he went on from there to be a real creator. If he hasn't already in his talents, but how many of you in this room can say you have custom designed six distinct cars of which one of them, the flip, is something that Mercedes actually made. He then went on to pitch an idea to Coca -Cola, which was an entirely new venture using their residual plastics, taking that to market along with brand, and most recently in the world that we all know, which is the Web 3 .0 and all the conversations we've been having of it today, his new company FYI, which I think maybe would be a good place to kick off, and just understanding what is your intention in building this regenerative AI community for creators?
9:17So we're in Geneva, we're at the first global competition. You're on stage, I'm going on stage, and you're like, Peter, check this out. And will shows me this platform, which is the combination of, you know, WeChat and Zoom and five other tech companies and it's working flawlessly and I'm like holy shit. What is that? Well, it's FYI and it's now powered by GPT -4, which you got early access to. What was your vision? What was sort of the creative moment of you? Because you've been building, how many companies have you generated ideas for well over the years? So when we saw beats to HTC, so one year Jimmy says, you know what?
10:04Well, one day you're gonna realize that you shouldn't be the talent. You need to collect talent. So I'm like, wait, you collected me? I'm on your collection. Get the fuck out of here. Well, you got me, Dre, for real, wow, you got a collection of talent. I was like, wow, okay. I need to start collecting talent. Oh, I want developers. I want rappers and beat makers. I want developers that could develop software to make beats. Software to write wraps. Oh, I'm gonna go out and find real tap, next level talent. So when we sold beats to HTC, I went to Israel and acquired a machine learning team. Went to Bangalore, acquired natural language was understanding team and Singapore and natural language processing team back in 2013 and we created a voice operating system by forking Android and who did I call?
11:16Paul Jacobs to give us a snapdragon Qualcomm chip. We forked Android, put it on a Qualcomm chip, got had a technical acceptance from AT &T, and it was a watch. I remember the watch. It came here. Yeah, we were at an ex -price visionarium we used to hold here. Yeah, and this is due by the name Naveen Jane, who gave me all this energy of like, to make me believe. So certain people spark a planet seed to make you go out there and believe that your ideas are valuable. And that got us, you know, from AT &T technical acceptance to three mobile technical acceptance. So that has everything to do with FYI.
12:04So then we sold that to Vonage, that team to Vonage, and Majad Al -Futain. So if you're in Dubai or UAE and you are at Car 4 or the Mall of Emirates or at Vox theaters and you're conversationalizing the softwares, that voice AI is built by a team that I sold to them. It's called IMAI. That was from 2014, 15, 16, 16, 17, till now. So during COVID I realized that the the creative community had no software made for them. So if you're a finance or software for you, if you're any field, they're software for you. But when it comes to creatives, creative across all disciplines, you're working off a WhatsApp or some messenger.
12:57And to do that, you need a Dropbox. And if you're having conversations about the things that you're working on, some of the conversations are in the comments, some of them are on the text, some of them are on the email, and it shits all over the place. And meanwhile your IP and your team flow is all scattered. So I was like, wow, imagine if there was like a singular interface for creative enterprise. Where the messenger was the foul storage and the digital asset management and the calendar and the conferencing and elliptical cryptography keys. because why should an NFT have more controls and safety and privacy than your conversations and your digital assets when you're working?
13:43Why just the NFT? Why just the cryptocurrency? Why can't it just be all my conversations, all my data, and all my shit? it. And so, and then let's put generative AI in the middle of it, to where you and your team can collaborate with different AI's collaborating, not just you and AI on a silo, and then you send like screenshots of what you and the AI talked about to your friends. But what if AI is all in the mix with you and your group? Not just one AI, but a whole bunch of them. And so that's FYI, FYI .AI, focus your intents with AI, focus your ideas with AI, not for your information. Obviously it's focus your ideas in intents with them.
14:28By the way, it's not an idea. We were just playing with it a few minutes ago. I just saw him earlier in a four -way conversation on two different phones, so two different individuals, two different creatives, basically getting into it and co -creating together, along with two AIs. Well, there'll be infinite. And there'll be those individuals. It was just crazy to watch. It was very cool. So you said a sentence, what's scarcity? Technology takes scarcity and makes it abundance. Yeah. So let's say like Mark Binyoff, yourself, Dean Kamen, you guys are hyper -networkers. So any idea that you guys have, you go to your rolodex, you'd call anybody in your rolodex to get things done.
15:12But the random person in Boyle Heights or Compton or Watts, they don't have an awesome Rolex. They have ideas, but nowhere to actually manifest that idea. So what used to be like your amazing Rolex, it's going to be an amazing Rolex of AIs to help people materialize their ideas on that. So you have a clone of Tony Robbins and Mark Benioff and Dean Cayman that you can bring into the conversation with you. Well, not clones, just awesome AIs. Because you want to be careful with that word, clones when it comes to AI. Because I believe that AI should not mimic a person. Because I write songs and I own those songs.
15:58But we're skirting on a very thin line between authenticity, ownership. So if you do I own my facial math and facial recognition in AI right now, nope. Does Beyonce own her timber on her voice right now? Nope. We should. If Leonardo DiCaprio's voice can be mimicked and cloned to the T with AI, shouldn't he own that? Just by his, you know, physical right of how his timbers produce his voice. There's so many things that we have not crossed and we have not protected people yet. So we can't say clone and AI because then it brings up a whole bunch of ethical stuff where there's no regulations and governance on people's safety, their ownership, their identity because identity and data is identity.
16:49We need to make sure that identity is protects people, their individualities and their communities when it to come to distinguish yourself from AI and people. If we wind back to half the statement you just made a bit ago, you were talking a bit about your MTP, your massive transformative purpose around the bridging that digital divide. What are some of the things that you're really cranking on like FYI that you think are going to be crucial in that journey that you're on, that what are your moon shots within your massive transformative purpose? Well, this decade is a very, I think we're all, if you had, if we spiritually had a pick what time we wanted to be alive.
17:37At some point in time in our spiritual journey, we all decided to be here at this point in time. Because this is the most transformational point in time for humanity. It's the 99th level of the gameplay. Right? It's a, all the times to be alive. This one here is like, wowsers. We could get it right, and as an optimist, I think we will. Or it could be very wrong, if there's no middle ground. It's just more transformational than electricity. Even though I was a pretty big one, I wasn't around, but thank God they got it right. We got light, smith! Well, we got it right. This one is a different level of illumination.
18:34What are you worried about in the short term that we could, what's the inflection point that we get it right or get it very wrong? Well, the digital divide is so wide. algorithmic bias, we haven't seen how disruptive it's going to be for communities yet, because we're just in the beginning of it. Data bias, we know that they exist, but yet we don't have a flock, a herd, of inner city poverty -stricken kids that are learning to write algorithms and build, you know, systems, training systems, training data. And the only way to fix algorithmic bias is to have a more diverse, inclusive participation in making those algorithms that are going to be serving communities and people that live in them.
19:33So that's the reason why, you know, the work that we do what I am angel is super important to have people of color in and around robotics computer science engineering. Earlier when we were talking before this conversation, the question was put to you, you've used your celebrity, your fame, your wealth on multiple different dimensions to try and make the world of better place. And the question was, was that a recent transition or is that who you are? Please answer it as you did before. And then I want to ask the following question for those who are parents listening. How did your parents make you who you are today?
20:22Because I think one of the things that needs to do is help make our kids contribute to society as part of their core DNA. I'll start with today, I'm staying at a hotel because if I'm in LA for so long, I'll just stay at a hotel because I don't want to stay at my house. So I'm staying at a hotel and then I wanted to just drive what's just like two minutes to get some breakfast, but it took me two hours because it was the marathon. And then that had to drive all the way to Brentwood, just to cut across, to come back around, to Fairfax, to come back up. Took me two hours. In that two hours, I remembered my bus ride from East LA to Brentwood to go to school.
21:08And I'm in my freaking GT 63 Mercedes, and I'm just giving flashbacks of my childhood going through the rich neighborhood. knowing that last month I was in a father box with Mercedes team brainstorming on how to improve the driving experience in the car. I'm like, wow, what the fuck? How did my life... How did this happen? And we can amazing.
21:42But I grew up in a very poor neighborhood, and I got bust out to Beretwood. And somebody came up with that concept to have a magnet program to send kids from poor neighborhoods to rich neighborhoods to get better education. But while I lived in the poor neighborhood, my mom would sign up for government assistance. And there were like food drives where the rich kids will come to school with canned foods or box foods to give to the poor families. For many years, that food that they collected came to my house. And during the summer, when we would get summer lunch programs, because when you're poor and your kids are not in school, you only have one mill a day, not three, because breakfast and lunch at school is a very important experience for families that can afford to have three meals a day.
22:46So during summer of these kids, we were hungry during the day. So we had summer lunch programs. In the summer lunch programs, our family gave out the free food because what you don't want to have rich people, given poor people, free shit because of dignity, the how they feel, it's bad. So my family in the neighborhood, we're always we always signed up to assist. So my mom was the after -school teacher, my uncle was the after -school basketball teacher, my aunt worked at the homeless shelter, my grandmother worked at City Hope. So this is what we did when we were poor. So now that you know I've had success I would be doing this shit even if I was poor because that's what my family still does today.
23:37So it's not like
23:42yeah. But it's just the way my mom raised us but yeah today was today was awesome because Because I remember driving in the yellow bus through Brentwood like wow look at those big houses. Damn that's crazy. So that two hour drive you had is going to be able to be 30 seconds with your new Jetson that you got today? Oh. Eventually when we were able to drive it through the cities but I remember going through those neighborhoods like wow look at those big houses. Now I'm like damn these houses are small.
24:19I saw the child in Will light up when he saw the Jetson preview earlier today. When it comes to somebody who likes his toys, I think I never see it in a faster. Yes I want one. No I want two. No, it's not. Where's going to be two for one, right? Here's why, because I always have these projects that I've side projects that I'm working on. So there's like three projects that I'm working on currently. One of which, when I asked the guys from Jetson, I was like, you know, how big is your team? How long did it take to build this? What did it cost? And as I was excited, I was furious. because there's this one project that I'm currently working on, which is like a three -seater electric vehicle that has a tilt, goes zero to 60 and 1 .5 seconds, and...
25:16Let's go to rocket. No, it's it's it's weighs a thousand pounds.
25:23It's yeah and it and I'm like, Darni, I should have just like not did that and just like I invested all my money with these guys. But we're still gonna push it through. You don't give up, but yeah. Wait, wait, before you go there, you just said something, you said you don't give up. No, hell no. How many times have you looked back and said, I should have given up maybe a little earlier on that one? Or how do you think about this idea of abandoning things versus perseverance, dreams that you might have had that you today are willing to say, well, not anymore, how do you think about that trade -off?
26:01If you have the ability to see something through, no matter how long it takes, you're supposed to see it through. If it's your highest calling, right? It's not just, I mean, there's times where you do something for the money, and it gets super hard. Oh, you never do things for the money. Okay, so just make that premise, right? You never do things for money. You do it because like your heart's burning. Yes. Like you do it because like, oh my gosh, you waking up like oh my gosh like every moment of the day is like oh my gosh and if you have a project like that you'd never give up. Don't care if like there's gonna be these twists in these turns there's gonna be ups and downs.
26:44If you're not a rollercoaster rider if you don't know how to freaking like write it you shouldn't be here in the first place but you'd never give up. There was this one something like fail fast. Like whoever said that's weak, his buck. You only fail fast if you're in it for money. If you love it, you go through it. And you're gonna come out learning so much more at the end. There's so many folks, the reason why they say fail fast because they're afraid of failing. And they don't want people to know they failed. So fail quick. Right? So that's like, that's what an investor would say. We're gonna go back and rewrite all those agile operating systems in your organization.
27:30No, but dreamers should not. A dreamer should not fail fast. Dreamers should get one. There you go. So, yeah. So, the conversation here is success to significance. We've got a room full of successful entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners. And, you know, there's a point at which you make enough money and you can't spend it in a lifetime. You don't want to leave it to your kids and ruin their lives. You don't want to leave it to your lawyers to give away after you're dead. And I guess one of my missions through abundance 360 is help people play at a bigger game. to do those things. I believe that the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities and why not go and solve the world's biggest problems?
28:23Can you, as you think about huge, scary -ass problems that you wanna go after, do you dive blind? Do you go pull a team together? How do you think about going to do something big bold, a moonshot. A team's putting teams together. A team building, um, having dream partners to tackle the collectibles. Yeah, you want to, you want to have dream partners to tackle nightmares. The only way out of a nightmare is to dream out of it. Like the moment you wake up from a nightmare, you're eventually going to go back to sleep and face that nightmare. But you want to create the dream. And that dream team, that assembly of that dream team, is how you creatively solve problems.
29:25But I wouldn't even look at them as problems. You're just creating. And that creation of whatever that issue is, is a beautiful task. But you create to create a better world, and not just to go and flip money to make more money. Yes? Is that true? How do you think about that?
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29:49I don't... I think that's my biggest issue. I don't look at it from making money. I've been blessed to have made money to fuel my idea of manifestations. and some of my ideas have made money, but I don't go in it from making money. And it's the same way with songs. There's some songs that I wrote that are like, yo, this is gonna be a smash. And then there's some songs that are like, oh, this is how I feel right here. And I gotta get this out. And that, where's the love? Is this is how I feel right here? I gotta get this out. I gotta feeling is, This is gonna be a smash. But where's the love is a special one.
30:45I wouldn't be able to be at the seat to write, I gotta fill in, if it wasn't for where's the love. So purpose from the heart, questioning what's going on, that. And I apply that same methodology to coming up with ideas and having the, you know, being audacious and ambitious and fearless. to then go to Mutar Kent at the time when he was a CEO of Coca -Cola and say, hey, companies the size of Coca -Cola should be verbs in society. If you don't believe me, Google it. And your verb is Coke backwards for EK, OC, for eco -consumption, eco -collaboration, eco -concept, eco -cycle, eco -community. And let's take your byproduct, create a new base cloth and license that to other companies to execute their sustainability efforts and we call that Ecosy.
31:39So are those Ecosycle -levis, are those Ecosycle -beats? And so they bought that idea. And so we arm wrestled for a while who owns Coke backwards. So I own that with them, which is another crazy shit. Like what? Who would have thought that one? And so everybody, I want to take a short break from our episode to talk about a company that's very important to me and could actually save your life or the life of someone that you love. Companies called Fountain Life. It's company I starred years ago with Tony Robbins and a group of very talented physicians. You know, most of us don't actually know what's going on inside our body.
32:24We're all optimists. Until that day, when you have a pain in your side, you go to the physician and they Berncy Room and they say, listen, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have this stage three or four going on. And you know, it didn't start that morning. It probably was a problem that's been going on for some time, but because we never look, we don't find out. So what we built at Fountain Life was the world's most advanced diagnostic centers. We have four across the US today and we're building 20 around the world. These centers give you a full body MRI, a brain, a brain vasculature, an AI -nabled coronary CT looking for soft plaque, dexascan, a grail blood cancer test, a full executive blood workup.
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33:56If you go to fountainlife .com, backslash Peter, we'll put you to the top of the list. It really is something that is for me one of the most important things I offer my entire family, the CEOs of my companies, my friends. It's a chance to really add decades onto our healthy life spans. Go to fountainlife .com I'm backslash, Peter. It's one of the most important things I can offer to you if one of my listeners. All right, let's go back to our episode. Tomorrow morning, this group of Titans are humbly gonna meet each other and have a conversation about some of the places they're struggling, some of the places they're looking for transformation in their lives.
34:37We believe that through empathy and vulnerability, great relationships are created. So, the question I would have for you is, whether it's personal or professional, where are the opportunities for your transformation? What are some of the things that right now you're working on? It's a big deal. Um, preparing myself for what's coming. And AI is an amazing, like I said, we all came here spiritually for this moment. And what we're experiencing is a massive transformation to how we do things. If you're a mathematician, a calculator, wow. Probably can't out -calculate a calculator. You're not going to out -logic or logic machine.
35:36and these new creative tools, it's amazing. It's going to render a lot of jobs obsolete. If you're a bus driver, that won't be your job in 2030. Truck driver, delivery driver. If you're a legal assistant and you read through the contract, that's not your job. If you are a finance manager, that's not your job. A lot of jobs are going to be gone in these next 10 years.
36:13But for the hyper creative, that person that never was able to sleep, the person that exhausted their friends and family and their close ones with another idea, they're like, Oh, come on, Bobby, do them sleep, dude. And that person felt like, gosh, I've exhausted every single person with an idea. Now they feel liberated because now they have a freaking ping pong partner to freaking go head to head with and they've never felt freer. AI's going to supercharge that hyper creative. I know what that feels like when you call your friend randomly because you got another idea to fine tune and you've exhausted your whole freaking roll of deck.
37:00So I'm preparing myself for this time where humanity has to be more human than we've ever been because machines are gonna outdo a lot of the shit we used to do and it's gonna force us and push us to be more human to one another and that's It's going to be an amazing time. I bet you're a core. What do you believe your superpower is? That can't be jet GBT out. Right now, it's not going to out -idea me, like original idea. Ever? No. And I don't want to say that arrogantly. It won't. Because it doesn't have the heart. And what's generating that idea? Yeah, it's going to come up with ideas. But it's not going to relate to the human...
38:02It's not going to have the emotional drive behind it. Yeah, so the ideas, the ideas are like... Human ideas are... That are human connection. Yeah, it's cool. It's gonna come, it's gonna do some awesome shit. Don't get me wrong. This shit is fucking amazing. But I just know that it's gonna push people like me to fucking do even more awesome shit. I don't seem like Michael Jackson. I can't dance like Freken James Brown. I can't play the piano like Stevie Wonder. I can't well like fucking Jimmy Hendrix, but I got some fucking ideas. Right? And so, I don't, you, a hyper creatives do not let other genius dim their light.
38:49It makes your light even brighter. Like, oh, shit, I'm inspired by you. Look what I can do. And that's what AI is going to do. But this time it's going to do it from a human to human perspective. We're going to be more human with one another. And if you think about like body dysmorphia, what filters have done to people, how I'm worried that there's people that look at themselves on Instagram filter and that's what they want to look like now. And they go and change their body around, they change their face around, they don't, they're depressed inside. And if that's what happened to camera, imagine what's going to happen to people when they rely on the machine to think for them.
39:41Imagine you're on a group chat and you feel daunted that everybody's firing off and now AI's fucking firing off more than you are. So you feel like, oh shit, I'd rather be represented by my AI version of myself. There's going to be new types of psychological I don't feel I'm not there adequate adequate. So these are things that we have to be we need to empathize on we need to make sure that we are you know a more patient with one another. You see how remember when we were in elementary school, remember being in the classroom and and the teacher said, raise your hand. Some people didn't raise their hand.
40:30The ones I were like, extroverts raised their hand. Those folks that felt like, I don't know, I don't wanna be called upon. I don't wanna be judged because I don't want people to think that I don't know. You know what's coming? How people are going to behave and conversate. We are in a society right now with the most awesome tech and we are talking with memes and emojis and SMS short sentences. That's what most people behave in conversation. They are responding with pictures, memes, and emojis. At the time where AI is rifling off deep complex thoughts. Look how unbalanced we are already starting off.
41:17Now imagine that the body dysmorphia that filters have done to people. What's going to happen psychologically to people when mental health is a big subject. Moving forward, this is how we're starting off. Chad G .P .T. Oh my gosh, look at this. Ask all these questions. People who graduated college, they leave college remembering things. Now it's about not knowledge, it's about being curious and the right questions to ask. Yeah. I'm not sure that anybody else has heard the term intellectual dysmorphia, but I think we might have coined it this evening. Thanks, Steve. You know, we'll, there's a lot of fear mongering around AI.
41:59And I just want to talk one second about the ability has to level the playing field at the same time that we're concerned about a digital divide, to make health care democratized and demonetized, and education democratized and demonetized. We're going to have Sal Khan on stage with us on Tuesday from Khan Academy, right? We just partnered up with OpenAI. We'll have Imaud Mustafaq tomorrow. He's about to roll out an educational program across all of Malawi using stability AI. There is the potential for this to, less like Google is the same for the poorest child and the wealthiest child, it longs have a smartphone.
42:43There is the potential for this to level much of the playing field out there, yes? Yes, yeah, forever learning. So, and health. Yeah, that also comes with forever learning. So the reason why we have health issues, because people really don't know much about their bodies and nutrition, what a calorie actually is, the junk food, survival food that's around them at disposal. So forever learning is super important or where we're going. So I believe that AI will play a big role in that concept of forever learning. Not you go to elementary, you go to junior high, you go to high school, you go to college for eight more years and then that's all you know and you're never going to learn anything and then you work for some odd years in retire.
43:38That's old school. You're going to have something that's in your life, like aspirational GPS. Right now we have, we know GPS is geographically. I could get from here to there, you can tell Siri or whatever, directions to Aliex. And if it tells me to make a right when I should have went left, it does a recourse instantly, and ETA. But the same isn't for like, I want my bank account to be X in the next five years. There's no aspirational GPS. This is what I want to accomplish in my life. This is what I want to be in the next five years. There's no aspirational GPS. There's GPS for destination, not GPS for destiny.
44:29And so as AI going to play that role for us, and if it is, how ethical is it going to be other regulations, other governance to make sure that we're protected. And with all of that, how are we safe? I think you just created a new product for Merrill Lynch. What? The aspirational financial GPS. Notice FYI, bro? Oh, OK. So I got it. I got it. Hey, how long are you going to live? And what are some of your really big bucket list items between now and then? What? How am I going to live? How long are you going to live? The conversation we have here a lot is, you know, how long do you want to live a healthy life?
45:08How long do you want to live? One cent is mine, what's your name? I'm in the live forever. Sorry. How long do I have to go by the less a freaking scary question? Yeah, without a target, you'll miss it. So what's your target? With all his technology that tomorrow you can sign up for.
45:29Um, 120? Good. There you go. And with so bucket list items between now and then, one or two biggies. I have a school.
45:41And that school teaches kids have no parents or come from some poverty -stricken area forever learning, and that campus is for R &D on all things tomorrow. And it's like a hybrid of MIT,
46:03And yeah, that's my dream is to have that. You still think about being a dad? A dad. In ways, I am a dad because of the kids that I support. But one day I would have my own kids. Unfortunately, I'm going to be a grandpa dad. I'm just turned 48 two days ago. Young man very I had my kids when I was 50 you You got you got playing time by the way it's one of the best longevity programs ever they keep you young Well People here who have like gotten to the pinnacle they've sold their company their companies running on automatic They're you know They're a little bit bored in what they're doing they're excited here Going back to the success to significance, what would you tell them?
47:04What's the steering question about how they use their talent, their treasure, their tech, their connections? How do you think about that?
47:19Building teams, identifying leaders to expand those teams to solve whatever problem. There's a bunch of problems to solve. And there's ways to solve them in a beautiful way that encourages that empowers and enables. And maybe business comes out of it. Maybe a solution comes through that journey of 12 years. It's really a 12 year program. Meaning, if you're going to get into something, be prepared to take it on for a dozen years. Yeah. People don't, you know, people forget that most successful companies that you think of overnight success is, you know, it's overnight success after 11 years of hard work.
48:09So I remember it was 2008. We just did, yes we can. And I was jazzed and pumped. And Mark Beanyoff introduced me to General Colin Powell. And I'm sitting next to him, he's to the left of me, we're in San Francisco and I'm like, hey, journal call and pause, nice to meet you. You know, now that, you know, people that got activated and, you know, did our part, what do you think a person like me should do to keep the momentum going now that Obama is elected? He said, if I were you, I would focus on the neighborhood that I come from,
48:53that you sure it's some inner city. My dad is, he's like focus on that. There was nothing to hold you back or slow you down and you could do some serious work for the energy that you have and the commitment you have. So I started there in 2008 with 65 kids and then Ron Conway introduced me to Lorraine Powell Jobs. Lorraine Powell Jobs had a program called College Track. And I asked her, hey, can we bring that to LA? She says, well, I have no plans taken into LA. It's only in the Bay Area and if we consider it, it's a big responsibility on you because you have to fund it. And that's a 10 -year commitment.
49:35So I'm like, I have to fund it. It's your program. You got a whole lot of money. She was like, yeah, but to be fair, we only focus in the Bay Area. I had no intention of taking it to Los Angeles. And it's a $10 million commitment. Because you have to see these kids through high school and to college. And you have eighth graders. They haven't even graduated yet. So it's 10 years. The last two years of middle school, four years of high school, four years of college. I'm like, all right. At that point in time, I didn't have that much money. So I'm like 10 million bucks. Fuck it. Let's do it. I'll figure it out.
50:26So we figured it out. That 65 kids now is 12 ,000 students. We sign up another 10 years. That's what a person can do when they have no money. Imagine what you can do with the money you guys have. There you go. Drop the mic. One time Dean came in. Oh, sorry. And Dean came in his house. And Dean's like, so much energy. This dude's energy is like, I thought I had energy. This Dean came in, God. He's freaking like electricity. So Dean's like, we've been doing first for 20 years. And nobody knows about it. So I'm like, have you put it on TV yet? He's like, nobody wants to see a robotics competition.
51:15And at least that's what they tell us. I was like, oh, we're playing the Super Bowl this year. I think we could figure out how to put it on television. So I called ABC. I said, hey, how much is an hour of time cost? I was like, well, we're on you about a million bucks. So I was like, okay, I'll buy an hour of time in September back to school program. So they sold me an hour. So they're not called Dean. Hey Dean, I got an hour of TV. It's gonna take the robotics competition that we play the halftime show. We're gonna put it on television. The problem was nobody wanted to put up the risk money. Everybody wants to do things, but who's putting up the risk money?
52:04Quiet. So somebody has to put up the risk money. So I was like, fuck it, I'll do that too. So we did it, made our money back. At least we broke even, but more importantly, more people knew about verse. And that's when General Charlie Bolden from NASA then called me. That's how I got the song to Mars. Because he says, how can you do what you did for first for NASA? Everybody at his Peter, a quick break from the episode. But I'm a firm believer that science and technology and how entrepreneurs can change the world is the only real news out there worth consuming. I don't watch the Crisis News Network.
52:46I call CNN or Fox and hear every devastating piece of news on the planet. I spend my time training my neural net the way I see the world by looking at the incredible breakthroughs in science and technology. How entrepreneurs are solving the world's grand challenges. is what the breakthroughs are in longevity. How exponential technologies are transforming our world. So twice a week I put out a blog. One blog is looking at the future of longevity, age reversal, biotech, increasing your health span. The other blog looks at exponential technologies, AI, 3D printing, synthetic biology, AR, VR, blockchain, and these technologies are transforming what you as an entrepreneur can do.
53:29So if this is the kind of you you want to learn about and shape your neural nets with, go to demandus .com, backslashblog, and learn more. Now back to the episode. Can I ask those of you who are supporters of first? Can you stand up one second? Just stand up if you're a first supporter here. Alright.
53:52So every year we raise money through the longevity platinum program and through a 360 for first take people to Dean's home. First is one of the most extraordinary programs and you are one of the faces advocates, promoters of first. Take a second and just tell because it's religion, I made a deal with Dean the first time I met him. He would support X Prize but he said first and foremost you must support first and it's been a deal I've kept and I donate and support every year. What is first? What does it do and why is it important? So first is for inspiration, it's first of all, first is the most inspirational program for youth robotics or youth empowerment, youth acknowledgment, seeing how amazing these kids work and solving problems and how technical they are to building tomorrow's tools.
54:54It's amazing. And I was transfixed the moment I saw the kickoff in New Hampshire in 2009. And since then, I vowed to bring that program to inner cities like mine.
55:14And I started with, I think we had three teams. And those three teams now turned into 400 schools across LA. So out of all the programs, our LA -USD collaboration with first is the biggest LA -school district that has the most robotics teams across America. ago. And I think Dean all the time for trusting, imagine what his board must have thought when I went and said, hey, I want to, like, he's in a rap group. He goes out to clubs all the time. Is that who we want to represent first? And the reason why you have to take that and consideration on how protective and concern they might have been. Because it's not like there was another person that comes from proper of the culture that was working with first robotics before I came there.
56:24So of course the board probably had been a little concerned. But to Lily and Tatiana and the IMA Angel Foundation, how delicate and that we've been at the same time as taking it to our heart like it was our program. That's not my program. It's Dean's program. But you adopt it like it's your program because it is the best program. And when you have something that is someone else's that you adopt like it's yours, that is now your north, my north star. Because I've acknowledged the responsibility and the accountability and how it's transformed my community. I get truly as transformed my community.
57:14We've sent kids to Dartmouth to Brown to Stanford to MIT. I mean, not MIT. That's where they want to go. That's the dream. And one of our kids said, I couldn't get into MIT or Carnegie Mellon, but I got into Brown. So we're really, really, really happy with the results. 70 % of our kids, 100 % in graduation rate, 70 % of which go to school for a STEM skill set. So yeah.
57:48So the question, you've been so crazy generous in the world and to so many causes. There's a lot of folks here that might be able to be supportive of you. I would ask two questions. One is, is there an ask for this audience in terms of their individual participation and anything you're working on? Did you'd like to say? I am a joint foundation first. Whatever it is. And then the second thing is, at a minimum, you've got a lot of influencers here. Is there a specific behavior change? You'd like to ask this group of individuals to consider how they walk around in the world. Is there some x to y that you could imagine that the world would be better if they picked up some behavior change.
58:34So it caused that they could have supported in some behavior change. I'll answer the second one first. The fact that everybody's in this room, that behavioral idea of a behavioral change is not needed because we're all rocking in the vibration of the optimism of Peter. and we all rhyme with that vibration. So to say that there's a behavioral change would be, nope, we're all vibing. So this is an awesome group. If there was a behavioral change, then that would reflect Peter's magnetism and how he's curated this event. So everybody's like rock solid.
59:31First, for some reason, raising money to make machine smart is super easy. Raising money to make kids smart is super hard. Wow.
59:50So, I am angel, that's all we want to do is making sure that we make kids smart. Because if there's any time kids need it to be smart, moving forward, it's right now as we face intellectual dysmorphia as an issue that no one's thinking about. We're excited about GPT. Whoa, these natural language models. Whoa. You know what's going to happen to kids? You know what's around the corner. or if somebody can program, you could create AI to do a bunch of stuff. You could create an AI to scrape all your Facebook information that's for sale by the way. To scrape facial data from your family members on your Instagram page as they post it all their snacks and foods.
1:00:48That's for sale by the way. to then call you, mimic your family, which is not regulated by the way, and fuck with people's minds, and hit you with all the targets to affect how you feel, because there's no governance by the way. That's where we are by the way. And none of that is like, But when we have to be super empathetic, we have to be super like mindful and at the same time make sure our kids are prepared for this tomorrow. That's starting now by the way. Let's take just two or three brief questions and then let's give Willa chance to actually have dinner. Nora. Hi. I have actually a question related to that sort of intellectual dysmorphia, but generally ways that we could potentially combat knowing whether something is human or not, authenticity, which has a whole bunch of other consequences.
1:01:56Anyway, there's a log that is, I think was used by the SEC that predicts anything that's naturally or organically occurring is going to have a certain number of, like, the number of volcanic eruptions or the number of hairs on your head or stars in the galaxy, it all falls on this distribution of if it starts with a one, it's way more likely. It starts with a two, second most likely. I think three is somewhere there and it drastically drops off at nine. I was wondering if there's ways that you could use that or even personality typology to program AI to combat bias. Like are there ways we can use certain tools that capture humanity in a distinct way to solve some of these problems?
1:02:51I don't know the answer to that. All I know is this deep fake stuff, it's gonna get even more indistinguishable from real stuff. Ray, who's a dear friend, Ray will be with us answering questions on Thursday. This prediction is 2033, high band with BCI to the Neocortex, the brain. How do you feel about that? Are you number one on the waiting list or never?
1:03:25never. And that's because I don't know what's on the other side of that. And I grew up Apostolic?
1:03:43And I don't trust the algorithm to put my mind that's connected to my spirit there. Fascinating. All right, one last question from Annie here. Behind you. Hey, Will. You've been an incredible creator your entire career and we work with start -ups all the time where founders run into big blocks. How do you get past that if you ever run into blocks where you know you've got a dream, you've got something in your heart? What's your technique? What's your advice? Oh, when you hit a wall or an anxious, a muddy, anxious surface, do you just create more. I've never had a block.
1:04:40The reason why you have a block is because you're worried about getting it wrong and improv tells you jazz tells you there's no such thing as wrong. You create and you wake up and you look at it maybe it's But you still created. And the moment you create and your judgmental on your own stuff is when you get a block. But you're not supposed to create and judge yourself. You're just supposed to keep on creating. Free of judgment of your own self. Because yeah, that's a... Yeah, you don't judge what you create. Thanks. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Will Am. Thank you. Thank you.
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In this episode, recorded during this year Peter’s Executive Summit, Abundance360, Peter and Keith Ferrazzi discuss with will.i.am the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) on creativity, ownership, and the human experience.
01:33 | will.i.am on AI: Surprising Perspectives
08:21 | Uniting Creativity and Technology
52:41 | Transforming Communities Through Empowerment
Will.i.am is a multi-faceted artist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist best known as a founding member of the Grammy-winning group The Black Eyed Peas. Beyond his music career, he's a passionate advocate for STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, and Math) education and has made significant strides in the tech industry with various innovations. His visionary approach seamlessly blends creativity with technology, making him a prominent figure in both the entertainment and tech sectors.
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