This Will Change How You Do Everything w/ Tony Robbins | EP #69

19 Oct 2023 · 1 h 17 min

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Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

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This Will Change How You Do Everything w/ Tony Robbins | EP #69

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In this episode, recorded during Peter’s Executive Summit, Abundance360, Peter Diamandis and Tony Robbins discuss ambitious "moonshot" goals, strategies, and the impact of technology on humanity's future.

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Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Action in the Face of Uncertainty
  2. Importance of Action: Emphasized taking action despite uncertainty. People often ask "how" but should focus on "what" and "why" to build clarity and motivation.
  3. Overcoming Doubt: Addressing fears and doubts through a strong purpose or reason is crucial to drive action and achieve goals.
  1. Feeding the World with Technology
  2. Current Food Insecurity: Highlighted the staggering statistics of global food insecurity, with 350 million people affected, and the consequences of geopolitical issues on food supply.
  3. Long-term Solutions: Discussion on reinventing food systems and utilizing technology to address hunger and malnutrition. Tony’s goal is to deliver "100 billion meals" to combat food insecurity through innovative approaches.
  1. Building a Future for Our Children
  2. Legacy and Impact: Tony Robbins shares his personal story about giving back and changing the narrative around food insecurity. He began at 17 by providing food for families in need and scaled that effort to ultimately reach millions.
  3. Empowering Others: Focus on creating opportunities for people, fostering a sense of purpose, and the importance of community in making impactful changes.

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Key Takeaways

  • Mindset Shift: Emphasizing the need for a moonshot mindset—to think big, set audacious goals, and take significant action without being bogged down by fears of failure.
  • Team Effort: Moonshots require collective effort; individuals can inspire but large-scale change needs collaboration and commitment from many.
  • Health and Longevity: Discussion of health as a critical component of future living, emphasizing new technologies and diagnostics that can prevent diseases before they happen.
  • Education and Knowledge: The importance of education to prepare future generations for a rapidly changing world impacted by technology and innovation.

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Additional Insights

  • Energy and Sustainability: Tony shared potential breakthroughs in energy technologies that can harness hydrocarbons while reducing environmental impact, emphasizing the need for sustainable practices.
  • Mental Health Crisis: Addressed the rise in mental health issues, particularly among younger generations, and the need to foster a compelling vision for the future to combat hopelessness and despair.
  • Role of Media: Critique of media's role in shaping public perception, emphasizing the importance of focusing on positive narratives and innovations that drive humanity forward.

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Conclusion This episode encapsulates the essence of striving for monumental goals in the face of challenges. It highlights the importance of technology, community, and a resilient mindset in creating a hopeful and sustainable future for humanity. Through shared experiences and insights, Peter Diamandis and Tony Robbins inspire listeners to embrace their moonshots and pursue transformative change.

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1:08If it's a should, it gets done when it's easy. When it's a must, it happens no matter what. It's not about the goals about who you become.

1:18The first question people go to is how. And that's the wrong question. Watch out for the tyranny of how. It's tyranny. Don't start with how? It'll shut down your capacity, start with what and why and get that so strong. Then start brainstorming there's a million house. Give yourself an experience that's so vivid over and over again and all of a sudden the certainty will be there. When the certainty is there you come up with the answer. You get really, sir, I'm not doing this. We're gonna make this happen. I don't mean false fake just optimism. I mean in your core. And then what happens? You tap massive potential.

1:50You take massive action because you know it's gonna work. And what kind of results with massive action, mass potential? Usually some pretty damn good results. And when you get good results, what does it do to your belief? Your brain goes, see, I told you, you were stutter -stuttered. I told you the man, I told you the woman. I knew you could do this. One of the friendships I cherish in life is with a dear friend, Tony Robbins. We've been friends now for the better part of 20 years. He's funded a couple of ex -prices we've written in New York Times bestselling book together. We've co -founded a couple of companies.

2:18but most people don't know about him is the audacity and size of the moon shots that Tony is taking in the world. Now I had a chance to bring him as a closing speaker in conversation with me at a360 2023 to talk about his moon shots to inspire people to go bigger and to go bolder in the world. And in this podcast episode we're gonna dive into his various moon shots. These are moon shots including providing clean drinking water to the world, planting hundreds of millions of trees, delivering 100 billion meals to those who are hungry, reinventing how we provide energy to the planet, providing an extended health span.

3:06This man does not stop. Who he is on stage, is who he is in private life. He's one of my heroes someone I care deeply about. So join me for this conversation, learn from the master about what it takes to have a moonshot mindset, and how you scale your moonshots to impact the planet in a meaningful fashion. Here's a man who's passionate and dedicated about creating a world that is hopeful, compelling, and abundant for humanity. All right, let's dive in. This is a conversation from my private A360 summit in March of 2023, and it's going to be a timeless conversation. Enjoy. First of all, Tony, listen, you're coming off of a insane trip to the Middle East.

3:53How many days at UPW? Four days we had 40 ,000 people from 185 countries. It's crazy. And here this man does not stop. I'll leave you voice notes every once in a while and saying, who is the insane person who schedules you? And then you're called Mastery for two days later if I come to when you're here. And you said yes and I am forever grateful. Our mission here is to inspire this amazing group of entrepreneurs to go bigger and to take moonshots. And I thought no better way than to share the extraordinary moonshots you're taking. And every time I think I know them all, there is another one. But, you know, Tony doesn't do anything on a small scale.

4:35It's all on Tony's scale. And I want to dive into those. I want to start with one that I'm going to feed through our conversation, which is perhaps the one that you're taking to the highest limits, and that is around food. Yes. What's the number of people on the planet today that have food insecurity? It's normally 80 million people a year. Every five seconds a child dies of hunger. This year it's 350 million people. And the reason is because of the COVID policies we had in Africa, there was no travel. And 80 % of the food, or should say the income in those countries they're often is coming from tourism.

5:15So they have no money. Then you have the Ukraine war that, of course, is the bread basket. And then the WF would prefer people not use fertilizer, yet 50 % of all the world's food is generated by fertilizer. and it comes mostly from Russia, which is shut down. So we have 18 countries on a verge of famine right now, according to UN. And it's more severe than most people ever could imagine. And it affects everybody, whether you care about children or feeding people or not. The instability in the world will certainly affect the world's a whole if we don't do something about it. It's a, and the challenge is that most people are blind to it because it happens over there.

5:50But the fact is we can do something. We can do something in the near term to help save those lives and do something in the longer term to reinvent our food system and our fertilization system which you're working on both. Yes. Well one is you know, it's start for me And it's not just something that intellectually was involved in I grew up in a pretty tough environment And we had time when there's no food and my life has changed the reason I get to do what I do really is not because I'm such a good guy It's because somebody is really good to my family on Thanksgiving when I was 11 and we had no money, no food.

6:23We wouldn't starve. We had saltine crackers and butter, and that's what we would have had. But Thanksgiving makes it magnified that you're not having a feast when everybody else is. And my parents were fighting and saying things you can't take back, unfortunately. And my life was changed. My knock on the door, and I went and answered the door. And there's this tall guy standing there with two giant bags of groceries. And he had an uncooked frozen turkey in a pan on the ground, because he couldn't carry it all. And he said, is your father here? And I was like, just one moment. And I was in for it.

6:49And I went to my father, he was yelling through the door at my mom and I said, there's a man of the door for him. And he said, well, you answer. I said, I did. He goes, who is it? I said, I don't know. It's for you. And I was just so excited to see him be transformed by this gift. But when he came to the door and saw the man, he had a reaction. I was not anticipating. And I never forgot it because it kind of filters how I try to help people with food insecurity. And that is, he got very angry. He just said, listen, we don't accept charity. And he went to slam the door. The guy holding the food is pretty big and he's leaning forward so the door hit his shoulder and bounced back open Which made my dad even more mad and he said sir sir before you get upset I'm just a delivery guy somebody knows you're having a tough family time Thanksgiving everyone has tough times And they want you have a great Thanksgiving of your family my father went to shut the door again This time the guys foot was there and it bounced off his foot If things were getting animated and then this man saw me and said something I thought my father was gonna just punch him out He looked at me and they looked at my father and he said, sir, don't let your ego get in the way of taking care of your family.

7:50And the veins on the side of my father's throat, I can still see them today. He turned flush red and he didn't hit him. He took the groceries. He slammed on the table. He didn't say thank you. Close the door. Completely changed my life. How old were you? 11. And it changed my life because I realized and realize in that moment, I realized years later our whole lives are changed controlled by three decisions. See if it's true for you. The first decision that you're making every moment of your life is what you're going to focus on. We don't experience our life. We experience life we focus on. Our brains are distortion, deletion, generalization creatures.

8:23You can hear about AI and get scared. You can hear AI and get excited. You'll be wrong about both. Who knows. But our experience of life is not life. Our brains distort, delete, and generalize. And we only experience what we focus on. What are you focused on? You'll feel if it's not true. So that day, my father chose to focus on the fact he did not take care of his family. I know that because he said it over and over again. But the minute you focus on something, your brain has to make the second decision. See if this truth is well. Since you focus on something you have said, what does it mean?

8:52That's what your brain does. Is this the end of the beginning? It's the end of relationship. You're going to be very differently than if you think it's the beginning of relationship. Is this person, you know, dissing me, disrespecting me? Are they challenging me? Are they coaching me? are they loving me? Your meaning will change your emotion, your emotion controls your life because controls the third decision what you're going to do. My dad's meaning was he was worthless because he not taking care of his family and what he said to do is leave our family which at the time was the worst experience in my life.

9:19But I chose that day for three different decisions. I wasn't so conscious about it but I could see it looking back. I chose to focus on the rest of the food but a concept is pretty cool. And then my second thing was that changed my life was the meaning and my father I always said, I had four fathers. They all thought nobody gives about them about you. We lived in a community where it kind of looked like that. And the meaning I got is that strangers care. And if strangers care about me and my family, I got to care about strangers. And so I thought, someday I'm going to do this for someone. So when I was 17, I fed two families, and it was the most beautiful experience.

9:50Because one of the families was about boring with all the details. I went as the delivery boy, because I saw what happened before. I didn't go to be appreciated. I wrote a note. So this is a gift from a friend, have a beautiful Thanksgiving, having in some day if you can pay it forward and take care of one family. I've got a love of friend and I had somebody write in Spanish on the back. I got the first place. I went to a teen shirt and I called this local church and I said who needs food but it's too proud to come get it. They gave me two families. I didn't rent a bar out of buddy's old van. I didn't know how to stick to it for a while.

10:21I wasn't a very good my session for his van. I knocked in the first door and I'm holding these groceries and the door opens There's a woman by half my size standing there and she looked up and she screamed. Oh my God. And I said, no, no, no. And then she screamed again and she goes, oh, she grabs my head and starts pulling me down and kissing my cheek. And I was like, no, no, delivery boy, delivery boy. She understands her. We just got the note turned over. It was in Spanish and she read it. And then she started crying. And then she grabbed the inner story and kissed me. I said, no, no, delivery.

10:51She goes, no, gift to God, gift of God. And I'm trying not to cry. And so I said, like, where do I put this? And there's a little room. you could see where to put it. So I put the groceries on it. And then I heard this noise and I heard this sound and another sound of before I could react boom boom one Hick like was hit by two little boys and the other one. She had four kids. Wow turned out she had four kids. Her husband left her the week before with no money No food before Thanksgiving. And when the boys I said to boys come help me get thrust these goods out. It was so cool. And when they saw the pumpkin pie it was over You know, it's so excited.

11:23And there was time to leave and I'll never forget. I was like I had to go feed the next family and these boys were hanging on to me and I didn't want to go but I had to go finally and I didn't speak any Spanish. So I looked here and I said, thanksgiving, I said, Feliz Navidad. And she laughed like you did. She was crying and she started laughing. And she gave me the hug and I'll never again I got in the car and I was trying to put the thing in reverse. And I looked in the room here and on this little tiny deck on these four kids with these giant smiles and the mom with the giant crying with the giant smile interface.

11:56And I just lost it. I just started crying, I could totally, like, where I literally couldn't see, I had to stop. And I was like, why am I crying? This is such a beautiful moment. And I realized my worst day had just become the best day of my life. The worst day of my life, I thought that was my father leaving, because he's four fathers, but he's the one adopted me. My name comes from Robbins. And I just, I wouldn't have been there if my family was well fed. What I really began feeling, a billion people. No. So I went out and I started with two families in the next year, four, and then eight, and then I had a little company.

12:25and they got them involved, and I had multiple companies. And now I have 112 companies, we do $7 billion in business, and all my employees get involved. So we went from two families, four families, a million families to four million families. And then about 2008, I was so upset by what happened to financial markets, and I've been coaching, I remember Jones, for 20 years. Yeah, and so I decided to write this book, Money Master the Game, and if you had Ray Dalion, Warren Buffett, and all the best of the best in the area, and try to find the common strategies. And while I'm interviewing these multi -billionaires, I'm seeing that they cut food stamps, which now they call the SNAP program in the US.

13:00They cut it by $6 billion, Congress did, which means every family actually needs food, would have to give up a week's worth of food every month, unless people like us step in. So I called my team and I said, how many people I've fed in my lifetime? I had no idea. It was 42 million people and I was like, wow, I'm really really happy. And I said, well, what if you talk about moonshot? So I was like, what if I'm right in this book? I thought, what if I said as many people I did in my lifetime in one year, what if I said 50 million people more than in my lifetime? I was like, what if I said 100 million?

13:28What if I did 100 million from the next 10 years and provided a billion meals? And I just finished that two weeks ago and I finished. Don't go over that. Don't run over that. Yeah.

13:41Thank you. So the decision to start with the first two meals at age 17. Yes. Led to that connection to a billion meals. Yes. And just the importance we talked about earlier of starting, of beginning, that first step, that first inclination to take action. Had that feel to reach a billion? I felt incredible, but one of the things I learned in my lifetime, sure you've all learned it too, is when you're getting clear to achieving a goal, it's not about the goals about who you become. You know, what you get, it's not going to make you happy, who you become, make you happy or make you sad. And I've noticed in my lifetime, I don't know if you've seen it, that we start to go for going about to achieve it.

14:23If you wait to achieve it to set the next goal, there's a little bit of a wall, a little start, you know, a little plateau. And I'm not into plateau. So I immediately is like, okay, what am I going to do next? It's not the only project I'm doing, obviously, food. But we sponsored the X Prize here, and I went and brought my friends from the UAE involved, Shakedonune, it's a good friend of mine. And said, let's do an X Prize. Let's feed the next billion. Let's find the sources of protein that can be cheap enough to feed everybody. but it but also delicious enough. So the test is not just, we're gonna produce this food in cheaper, we're gonna produce it in a way that's better for the environment, doesn't require all the water, doesn't pollute the air and so forth, but also does it at cheaper price and it's delicious.

15:01They can't tell the difference. So that's the goal there. And then along the way, while I was doing this project with you, I was, I mean, the process was some friends of attempting to buy Forbes right now and Steve's a good friend of ours. And I was, we have, we have Shiv here at Wichens series He's the one up and I guess a mega med. But a mega med is here too. I got a chance to get a phone call when I was in 2019 when I was in Abu Dhabi. MbZ called me up and said, I wanna have another lunch with you. We'd have lunch two days before and he goes, you're doing so much to feed people. There's only one person I know that's in your category.

15:34And of course, he brought Governor Beasley, who's like way beyond my category. He's running the UN program. He got the one, the Nobel Prize for feeding people two years ago. So we became good friends and we went back forth. But then with this last year, he reached out to me actually one of my dear friends here tonight reached out to me and said, you know, you've got to see the Twitter war that's happening between Elon Musk and Governor Beasley. What's happening? He wants to write a big check to try and solve this problem because the problem's bigger than ever before. Nobody realized how big it is.

16:05And so I entered in a little Twitter argument and said, listen, I don't think it's just Elon's responsibility. I think it's all of us. We can do this together. We can make this happen. So we end up in further conversations and I said, how big is the whole? And he said, Tony, you know, the long -term solution work on it's great. You got to fill the whole right now. Yes. And it's between 50 and 75 billion meals that we need around the world. I was like, wow, I said, then why don't we do a hundred billion meal challenge? All we got to do is find 99 people like me. I'm not a multi billionaire and I've been able to do it.

16:34There's plenty of multi billionaires and plenty of average people that could participate. And I said, we'll fill the gap then while we're coming up with the long -term solutions to the express and he said, well, we helped me go one on one around the room around the world to talk different, you know, wealthy people to invest. And I said, well, when I talked to Warren Buffett, when I interviewed him from my book, he told me that the giving pledge didn't take off right away. People didn't respond to Warren Buffett. But then he started sponsoring the Forbes philanthropy dinner and people got competitive in a good way.

17:04And it just took off like crazy. I said, so why don't we see where everybody's together other foreign richest families. Let's see if Warren will let us take 45 minutes of that dinner and tell people what's really going on, because they have no clue. I said, I'll speak for 15 or 20, you speak for 30, and we'll at least see what we can do. And Civic and Ray's these meals. And so Warren actually agreed, and Warren got six, we took it over, and the governor obviously did an unbelievable job. He's amazing, he had been. And we raised five billion meals in an hour, which was pretty extraordinary. He took a lifetime to do a billion, that was fantastic.

17:38And, and, and, and, Magnum, I don't know if you're out there someplace, but my dear friend, Magnum, and Shiv, or partners in mind, and various things were doing together. But he, I met him there, and we started talking, and I said, yeah, I don't give a damn about the money, because I remember I called one friend of mine, who's, you know, he's worth about $20 billion. There's a beautiful man. He sends me a check every year for like half a million dollars. I won't take his money, so he sends it to me to give away. So I add to my philanthropy with it. But I told him about this. He's helped me with the other meal thing.

18:05I said, now I'm done with the billion meal challenge. I'm closing in. We're going to do 100 billion meals. Here's why he goes, how much is that? He said, well, they're 10 cents to 30 cents a meal. I said, honestly, mine were 10 cents a meal in the US, but it can be as much as 30 cents overseas because the thing's involved there. He goes, well, that's beyond my pay grade. And I thought, that's beyond his pay grade. I'm a deep shit right now. So we changed the focus to saying, yes, people will give money, but let's get the raw resources we need. Let's see if we can't get it the lowest. I want to get the meals.

18:34And so, Magomed, he's out there somewhere. He's hiding out, but he's beautiful, man. And we're speaking, you know, he speaks Russian. Where'd you go, Magomed? Where are you? There he is in the back here. I want to tell you what this man has done back here. So, Magomed came up to me. We met this connection like you're known each other for decades, it was crazy. And he goes, we're going to get this done. We're going to get this done. He started calling some of his friends. He used to run the innovation segments of Russia. He owns the Russian version of Forbes. and he did a black cover during the war and left.

19:04So he's no longer there. But he said, listen, I know some friends, and I said, we need the fertilizer. We desperately need fertilizer. We need brains. And we know where they needed because the country is in Africa from the UN. And so he literally convinced a couple of his friends to make donations that are in the $500 million range. And they have already shipped to about 70 % of the places and we raised enough now, delivered enough for 60 billion meals. We've done that in the first six months. So it's amazing though. I think the illustration for all of you here that I know you're working your tails off and many of you already have You know giant moonshots you're making or you're gonna make new ones the next day or so is You know, I think the distinction you gave I came upon independently of you and you've came independently from me or or hearing DARPA's description You know you got to have something that is large enough that it makes you crazy and you don't know that you can do it But you got to know you can do it.

19:56I know it sounds ridiculous There's got to be some part of you that turns it into a must not a should. If it's a should, it gets done when it's easy. When it's a must, it happens no matter what. And you know, the difference between should and must is reasons. Reasons come first, answers come second. If you got strong enough reasons, if you got a big enough why, you can figure out how to do anything. But what keeps people, I think, from making moon shots real, because you got to look at the side of why people don't do it or why they don't follow through, number one, that people, the first question people go to is how?

20:28And that's the wrong question. How is absolutely the wrong question start with? Because if you've never done it before, what that produces is uncertainty. If you have uncertainty, then you don't execute at the same level. It's like people say, knowledge is power. We all know that's bullshit. Right? Execution is power. Knowledge is potential power. Execution beats knowledge every day of the week. So my bias is towards action. Even it's wrong actually. You learn quicker than if you do nothing. But the challenges people are asking how, and that produces uncertainty. What you got to ask is what and why?

20:57If you know what need needs to be done and why it needs to be done, if it's strong enough, then there's a level of certainty that will show up in your nervous system and you'll be able to inspire another people as well because you can't fake it. Everybody can feel it. And so if you can come up with that, if you find out how to turn that certainty on, that's what I do with people, athletes, business people, everybody, is how do you turn that on and keep it on? Turn that on. And then knowing what and why, you can figure out how. It's like, you know, John F. Kennedy didn't know how to get to the moon.

21:24He said, we're going to put somebody on the moon and we're going to turn the earth safely in this decade. And people in the house are like, he's insane. We don't have the resources, but they did it. That's leadership. That's a moon shot. Right? And it can't just be you. So that's the other part. Is it something that doesn't just inspire you? Is it something that'll keep you going when it doesn't look like it's going to work? Keep you from giving up. But is it something that'll get other people to join you? Otherwise, it's just you and you're not going to do it by yourself. There's no moon shots that are done by individuals.

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21:51That's bullshit. Individuals may stimulate it, but it takes a team that takes an army of people to make something happen. So I think watch out for the tyranny of how? Yes. Tyranny. Don't start with how? It'll shut down your capacity. Start with what and why? Get that so strong. Then start brainstorming. There's a million house. And if there isn't a way, you can find a way or make a way. And I think that happens. And the other thing happens is when you succeed, you get momentum. That's the other thing I'd mention too. There's a cycle I work with athletes and also business people called the success cycle.

22:23And it's based on the idea that you've noticed the rich get richer and the poor get poor and I don't mean money rich. I mean rich. Do you ever notice happy people tend to get more happy? An happy people get more depressed, more pissed off, right? Same thing is true in every aspect, including finance. So there's that moving through on the screen, I'll just show you real fast. I find this really simplistic and useful when I'm working with an athlete or somebody. So this is a cycle. It has a sequence. So if I said to you, what's the potential of your moonshot? What's the potential of any human being?

22:52Or would you say the potential of any human being is shattered out of curious? What is it? What's the potential? Well, that was powerful unlimited. What is it? Come on guys, what is it? If you can't come up on limit in this room, you what you saw it in the wrong place, right? Here we are. So it's unlimited. No, is it literally unlimited? Of course not. But it's not as limited as our thinking. That's for sure. So our potential is amazing. Now if I point over here in the bottom right hand corner go results Do most people's results reflect their true potential? Yes or no? No way why not Yeah, I mean if you say they don't take into action.

23:28That's very true massive action can be a cure off Right if you don't just take a massive action take a massive action see if it's working if it doesn't change it doesn't change You keep changing it's like how long you give your average child learn how to walk before you shut them off and go you're not a walker. No, my kids are going to keep trying until. So yes, action makes a huge difference. However, if you don't have certainty, the action is going to work. This is what people do. They call it trying. Trying is bullshit. Trying is, I'm just doing enough to justify that I didn't give up too easily.

24:02Trying is, you don't believe it's going to work. You're not absolutely certain. So you don't tap your full potential.

24:11Who's So you're gonna take massive action when you don't think it's gonna work So when you take little potential little action with little belief what kind of result you get little terrible results And when you get terrible results, what does that do to your belief now believe it or not it gets worse Now you're even more uncertain you tap even less potential you'd even worse results right less action worse results and bring go see now You're on the downward spiral who's ever done this in your life in any area. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't raise your hand you live but other shit too don't you come on okay but it also works on the other side I know you've all experienced it because you're all peak performers right so what happens something happens and you get about something you get really sir I'm gonna do this we're gonna make this happen I don't mean false fake just optimism I mean in your core and then what happens you tap massive potential you take massive action because you know it's gonna work and what kind of results with massive action mass potential you usually some pretty damn good results and when you get good results what does it do to your belief your brain And you go, see, I told you we're stutter, stutter, I told you the man, I told you the woman.

25:09I knew you could do this. Now you tap more, and now you're on the upward spot. Now who here is experienced both sides at the same time and different parts of your life? Like one area is going one direction, the other is your finances going area, your kids going another, right? Or your body's going direction, and you're in a business in another. So the way you change this, most people go, I gotta work on more action. Well, if you took a salesperson and he's uncertainty, he makes a hundred calls and says you wouldn't want to buy this from me, would you? Right? Some people are going to buy just because they don't want your kids to starve, right?

25:41But you're not going to do well. You have to change the certainty. But how do you change the certainty when you've never done it before? That's what a moon shot is. And it's so simple. You all know it. You've all practiced it, but sometimes we forget. It's the same everything great athlete does. You produce the result in your mind first with such vivid, deep emotional train that your brain can't tell the difference to you. Something you vividly imagine something you actually experience. In fact, we want to do something just for two seconds since you've been sitting there so long, stand up just for a minute if you would just for a second.

26:11Stretch your body out just for a second. And put your feet together like so, so they're touching, all right? Touching together? I'm not a part touching. And then just slowly bring up your right index finger straight in front of you. When I say now, do it till I say now, what you turn clockwise comfortably, just notice where you normally and actually relax, go ahead. Turn clockwise and those where you stop. Okay, come back around, take your finger out of your knee, bruise your eyes. Now every one of you knows the power of visualization. And some of you would say, I don't visualize. But if I said, what color is my shirt, you would say, how do you know?

26:47You go, I saw it. Well, some of you slow down the image and actually see the shirt. Most of you know, you're just wearing asks. It sees the picture in micro -speed and all of a sudden, bam, you know the answer. So some of you don't slow it down, but you still visualize. So just for a moment, I want you to imagine, stay standing with your feet together, imagine your fingers coming up again. Don't actually do it, but imagine it vividly, like you're seeing and feeling that finger come up. And see until you're self turning twice as far this time and it's effortless. And then in your mind do it again, see and feel the finger coming up and see and feel just imagine it going three times as far this time.

27:25And it's fun. And you enjoy it. And you expect to go further. When your little kid you'd say, measure me and go, I mentioned you last week's son, measure me again. Right? Now bring the finger up in your mind one more time and this time feet stay straight and this time the magic going all the way around like an owl, all the way around to the front. Okay, and it's fun and it's easy and every time you expect to go further. Now open your eyes and bring your finger up and now turn as far as you can comfortably and let's see where you go this time.

27:54Ooh, what was that moaning doing there? How many of you went significantly further this time? Say, I, I only went at least 25 % further, say, I, and it got a seat and just answer this question if you would for me. And that is, could you have turned that far the first time? Of course, why didn't you? Because even though you're unaware of it, you even have beliefs about how far you can turn. A belief is a poor substitute for an experience. You can tell me what you think about China, but if you haven't gone there and have no experience, You just tell me your belief and beliefs can be changed very quickly.

28:29Give yourself an experience that's so vivid over and over again and all of a sudden the certainty will be there. When the certainty is there, you come up with the answer. Without the certainty, it won't happen. So if a moonshot is going to happen in my opinion, like when I, the first version of something I did was, I was at the school year when I was like 29 and these kids were doing all my stuff. It was a grade school. It was in Houston. It was a real tough area. And they said, we want you to come. So I thought I was going to inspire these kids. And instead I sat while they did like every grade got up and did some version of what they learned every day They were doing some aspect of my work and at the end I was really touched And I was like I don't want to stand in the six graders who just only had one year of it I see you know what I said if you guys are willing to commit I said I'm gonna sponsor all of your college educations I said every single one of you college education get to pick where you want to do all put the criteria down I'm gonna sign a contract for it But what I want from you is a B average, and I said, and I'll also get you mentors, and I want you to give 30 hours of community service.

29:27Now, why did I do that? Well, because I don't have a college education, I think it could be great for many people. It's not great for everybody, but I wanted them to be people that changed their identity from someone who needed help to someone giving help. And if they were doing that, they would change their life even more than the school in my opinion. And so the school system didn't work well. They came and thought I was proselytizing these children and for some cult I was creating or something of that nature. And then they finally became my friends. And then gradually as I follow these kids all the way through school and college and now some were doctors and lawyers and so forth went all through that time.

29:58But when I stopped this down and I signed a contract, I didn't have any clothes to go pay for that. I'm very quick, when I did the billion meals, that seemed, you know, I was thinking, I'll donate this and that was like $100 million. I'm like, holy shit. But then it happened. But then when, notice the momentum now in six months were at 60 billion when it took forever to get to a billion. That's what happens I think with moonshots you get momentum. You've all seen this in sports right Who's ever seen somebody in sports and athlete let's say an NBA come out up to shoot a free throw or a football player a kicker coming out And you think before they release the ball before they kick you go they're gonna miss it Who's done this before who and how many of you are right makes a noise of your right right?

30:36How did you know you could see the lack of certainty without certainty? there's not execution. So my advice to you on your, you know, my, it's my own two cents. It's all it's worth. You gotta find your own version. Find something you're so passionate about that you'll go to the end of your earth for. Find something you care about more than yourself. Find something other people care about more than yourself. And then find something that the size of the challenge will excite the hell out of you. All the things that I've done in my life, truthfully about, I don't know, 70 years ago, I was like, I'm going to continue all the things I love what I'm doing.

31:08But like, what's going to really get me going, there's no toys are going to do that. I wouldn't explain all this shit. That's really wonderful. It's nice, but what really moves me is like impact. So now I do all these things that the food is only one of many of the projects. And let's talk about the food and then come back to it a little bit later. But your decision to go from a billion to a hundred billion meals, it happened in an instant. Yes. And your level of confidence in making that. Certainly, because I said there's eight billion people in the world and I only need to find nine in the world.

31:40So you're able to create me. So there's got to be more than you created a model that gave you enough confidence in that. And then the next thing is let me go to the people that can say yes. Let's go fishing not in a traffic farm. That's a lot of fishing in a sewer. Let's go someplace where people have the capacity. It doesn't mean they will say yes, but increases your chances. And then I was on a big lever in proximity as power. One of the first billionaires I ever got to know, gave me some advice one day and he was saying, I told him, my whole life was changed by this idea of proximity. He said, if you wanted to make a movie right now, you can make any movie you want, because I was in like 28 films where people threw me and I didn't even mess with him, even before shallow how and things like that.

32:18But he said, because everybody, you have so many clients that are heads of studios, that are great actors, that are great agents. So you're in proximity, so think about it. If you want to do a deal with IBM right now, he goes, I'm not saying you couldn't do it, but you certainly wouldn't have had the same advantage that Bill Gates had with his parents right there on the board of IBM. Proximity is power. So for your moonshot, I think you've got to get in proximity with the right people. It's one of the reasons that when you write the books, we've done the books, I've done the one we did together, go to 150 of the smartest scientists on earth, Nobel laureates, regenerative doctors, what do they know now?

32:53Because the time between when you have a breakthrough and it actually gets to your clinician is on average 18 years. So we want to just blow that out and get people direct access. You know, I'm super passionate about longevity and and how to add 10, 20 health years onto your life. One of the most under -appreciated elements is the quality of your sleep. And there's something that changed the quality of my sleep. And this episode is brought to you by that product. It's called eight sleep. If you're like me, you probably didn't know that temperature plays a crucial role in the quality of your sleep.

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34:51Well, there's no question. Can you speak to that? And so often, even when I was doing this in your early days in San Diego just starting out, I wrote this little book called Notes from a Friend and we started not just giving food, giving this little cartoon -like book for people. And there was this man, I'll never forget who came and he took half the stuff he gave and he gave it to somebody else and he kept handing out food for everybody else because he got into the whole spirit of it. And he saw his whole, again, he became something I'm not looking for help if someone who could be giving help was an identity change.

35:17All lasting change, by the way. In your life, my life for anybody's is a change in identity. Anything else is a fight. That's like if you ever, you know, if you once smoked and you don't anymore and I came to you and said, Would you like a cigarette? You're not going to go what brand is it? You're going to say, I'm not a smoker. I'm not one of those. Identity is the most powerful force that controls the human psyche. Change your identity, change your life, expand your identity, expand your life, shrink your identity, shrink your life. So I try to get people to do things that change their identity.

35:48Even the silly fun things we do, like the fire walk or woodware, things that we do are give someone an experience that after they do it, their brains says, if I can do this, what else can I get myself to do? That's the way that I think you create a real lasting change of people. But in all the cases, like for example, I noticed that I was in India and I see all these kids dying of waterborne disease and I said, this is insane. So I found a group of people there and now we're providing quarter million people with fresh water every single day. My goal is to get to a million people or expanding the size of it.

36:16But in the in the when it came to the air, I'm fortunate enough to have a private plane of VBJ it uses Conscious of what it burns in terms of fuel and trees So I was like, okay, I found out what my burn was. It's about 3 ,000 trees a year I'm finding a hundred million trees. I've already counted 71 million But I didn't just plant the trees to your description. I worked this group called trees for the future and throughout parts of Africa East and West we go in and we create these forests I provide the water and the trees and they go through four years of training and usually they have one crop a year And if it doesn't work out they're dead and they make $125 a day Buck 25 a day, which is just not 120 but buck 25 a day.

36:55It's sane But by the time we provide the water and we show them what they do They have a crop every single month. So if one doesn't come through, they're still fine They don't try to make it across the desert and die They believe farming could still work they stand their community and they make about 12 and after all is today It doesn't sound like much, but it makes them wealthy in that community. So again, they're learning and participating. So I'm planning on applying 100 million trees, we're at 71 million. I'll just give you just a quick point there. We have about, I think, three trillion trees on the planet right now.

37:23One of the projects, a dear friend of both of ours, Mark Benioff, who's focused on is a trillion trees project. If we can plant an additional trillion trees, it would absorb enough CO2 to take us back to pre -industrial error CO2 levels in the Azure. If you could only build a device that would pull CO2 out of the atmosphere and store it for a long time, that would be incredible. If it grew itself, it's amazing. It's beautiful in the world. But the same thing is true. You've got to look at what your passions are. I was doing an event one time and it was a business event. I do all these trainings and during one of the days, I have people see how to really invest because even though they've worked their hard on their company, things like COVID happened or you could have your whole company just shut down overnight by the government So you need another opportunity and so we do a brief Investment series on them and then we have them figure out what do they want all this money for again?

38:12What's it for? What's the reason right we have to brainstorm all these things they want to create or do or share and then I always bring in We have to be into it even somebody who's never ever done it before and on this woman about nine years ago stood up and she had tears in her eyes and she said I want to make enough money I want to sponsor children that are being trafficked she goes I have a friend of a friend who lost their child is the most horrific thing on earth and she goes this organization called Operation Underground Railroad and they go in and they set these guys up and they don't just save the children They teach the local police in these countries what to do and how to do it their former guys from From the CIA and really sharp people so I said well, what does it cost a sponsor a child to save a child's life?

38:51She has $3 ,500 so I said okay I'll put up a quarter million dollars in matching funds. Let's see what we can do So by the way, that's my strategy. Everything I do, I go to those organizations and I say, I want matching funds. Now if they don't deliver, I still give them the money. But I try to just double the impact of everything. I do, why not? Why not ask? Why not empower me? So you can use my name, you can use my money, say, I can double the number of results you get. And so that really does take off. But in this case, I got really inspired. And I actually went to Haiti. I went undercover with these.

39:18I've seen the photos. Yeah, I got to be, they had this makeup. I'm going to be scar on my face, the whole thing. and I was playing this role. It was the most disgusting experience in my life. I'm one of the most beautiful. When you see these children that are literally tied by a chain doing tricks 10 or 12 times a day and they're 12 years old, they're eight years old, it's just horrific. But to see them when they're freed one of the greatest days of my life. You've set a goal. You set an initial goal there, which helped big. Yeah, originally it was, I was going to sell 10 ,000. We've already saved 29 ,000.

39:47So I want to save 50 ,000. I grew up in a town of 50 ,000. So that's where I'm moving towards the net area too. It's incredible. Yeah. You know, the role of philanthropy is critically important. We talk a lot about exponential technologies. We talk about moonshots. We talk about changing business models and so forth. And I think just like in our XPRIZE for feeding the next billion, it's a long -term solution. And these moonshots take a decade, at least, to mature. And in the meantime, we need to feed those people. That's right. You mentioned water. We're getting ready. I mentioned earlier, we're getting ready to launch about, we'll be $130, $150 million desalination prize.

40:31Yes. And that's great. But in the interim, we still need to give people water. Yes. Let's talk about education next. Along with Elon, we're one of the funders of our global learning exprise. Yes. And we had on stage here, E -Mod was stock on Monday. Let's hear it for E -Mod, amazing. Absolutely, absolutely, a brilliant man, right? And he has committed $100 million. I've joined him in that journey to go and educate all in the LOWE using that same kind of software, but generative AI. And there's a vision in the future where all of this This gets demonetized and democratized where education for the poorest child and education for the richest child is the same.

41:25And so ultimately we're heading that way. In the education world, is there anything else you're focused on? Yeah, just to me it's innovation. I just back from Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is really a transformed place. If you've not been there in the last five years, four years ago even you couldn't hear music, you couldn't go to a concert, you couldn't go to any movies, women couldn't drive. If you went to a restaurant, there was a woman's restaurant and a man's restaurant. And you know, with 1979 was a huge year if you study history in the Middle East because not only did you have Iran's revolution, which was really an economic revolution, it wasn't a religious one.

42:01The Shah was corrupt, people didn't have any money, but the people who made the thing happen were religious. Now they're running for the same thing again. There's another need and desire for revolution. But at that same time, a group of terrorists in that group attacked the Saudis and tried to killed their royal families. And so they tightened their society at a level that seemed insane to anybody on the outside. But today, 70 % of the people live in Saudi Arabia weren't alive in 1979. So they have no memory of it, no experience, no upset, including the Crown Prince who will soon be King as his father's passing, MBS.

42:34And so it's interesting because they don't have those limitations and they want to be exposed, they want to be pressed the rest of the world. And you get to see the power of moonshots when a country's aligned. I was just a child when John F. Kennedy was here, but I remember even Reagan getting people aligned where there's a there's a national vision. Where are we going to go? What are we going to do? Why are we going to do it? That unified people today. The vision in the United States seems to be division is division. It's like how do we differentiate how do we attack? How do we destroy? Well, you go over there and there's nobody complaining about coming to work three days of week.

43:06and there are 20, 30 goals, everyone knows them. I mean, everyone in the streets, people, they're just, they're aligned with them. It's amazing. And there's a live there. 20, 30 vision, right? The 20, 30 vision they have there. And so one of those was to have 33 % of the population be working women, and it's already 37 % seven years early. Many of you I know probably have seen Neom and think maybe it's not gonna happen. I went there, you can see the infrastructure in the dirt already, they're spending a billion, excuse me, a trillion eight probably by the time they're done. There's a $64 billion giga project where there are home bases there and the level of talent that's been attracted around the world when There's a clear vision when there's something that's gonna change society and the world and people are aligned It's just amazing.

43:46We saw the same thing happen in the UAE you saw it in Singapore when it was just nothing but dirt There's you know There's there are lessons to be learned from leaders that understand how to take a moonshot but align a country And this is, we've talked about this, unless you've got that massive transformative purpose that is fueling your moonshot, that you communicate to your teams, you communicate to the world, right? Why is everyone going to work for Elon at SpaceX, even though he's somewhat of a technical leader, but they love the passion, they love the mission, the clarity of it. At the end of the day, you know, people want that meaning in their life.

44:25And you can deal with any, you know, you know, depression is out of control in this country. It is around the world, but especially in this country. And obviously we've seen this massive suicide overdose and depression explosion that's happened since COVID when everybody trapped in their homes and so forth. And now people don't want to even work. They don't have a sense of meaning. It's wonderful to talk about UBI, but I always bring up what's going to be the meaning for people if they don't work. Because you can pay for everything, and that doesn't make people satisfied. We have to do something that's meaningful.

44:55And what's meaningful is different for every person, right? So maybe I think it's easy to come up with solutions in your head, but then there's a reality if humans work. But the reality also, Tony, I would say, is that a lot of people are working not for what they were passionate about to do as a child. They're working to get food on the table, insurance for their families, just to basically survive. And the question is, and listen, I've gone back and forth, and we had a lot of conversations about technological unemployment, we were talking about doing some programming there together. At the end of the day, if UBI does exist, the question becomes, can FU use to enable someone to educate and to give them the running room to go and find that thing which they're passionate about?

45:40My two cents, which is all that's worth is two cents. There needs to be some tied to some form of performance or work as well. If there isn't anything there, then it's... I'll buy that. I'll buy that. I'll buy that. I bet otherwise you're inviting. I don't get me wrong. I mean, you know, I have to be more people than most people over dream of. I care deeply, but I also know that you can disempower someone by making them so weak. And so I think we have to do both. That's going to be the delicate thing. The delicate thing that we're all facing right now is, you know, everybody sees that kind of discovery of fire where AI is becoming real as we speak and exploding.

46:12It's going to change every aspect of society. Well, you know if you forget AI if all you have the self -driving cars and you think taxi drivers truck drivers and You know Uber drivers. It's 5 million in the US alone Right they're all their jobs are gonna go wait. There's gonna be three years or five years or seven years I don't know maybe you know better than I do maybe Elon can tell us better He's usually ahead of this as scheduled in his description. Yes Who knows we've had that guy but he's the most brilliant guy in the world So I'd still listen to him. I might edge it out a few years to what he tells me right with no disrespect.

46:45Just totally, Duzi has him sometimes goes a long way but gotta go beyond that. Whatever the year is, just think about it. Five million jobs, that's how many that we saw during 2008 disappear, that destroyed the entire con. That's one profession. Who's gonna hire someone to be a truck driver to drive only eight hours a day and complain about healthcare and want more money when they can have a self -driving truck that they can depreciate and it can work 24 hours a day and be more effective and probably have less insurance. So we are, you know, all of us were farmers, 80, 90 % of America's farmers 150 years ago, but you know, we're not.

47:21Today it's 3 % farmers we feed the whole world. The difference is the amount of time we had to change. No one thought back then about, you know, being a, you know, web expert of some sort, but the amount of speed of change now is gonna create a real display. There is size of the short term. I'm not worried about the long term with jobs. There'll be more jobs, But I think short term and our adaptation is the thing that we're gonna have to be ready for because it's gonna disrupt people now In places like UAE they actually evaluate every job and how many they are and they let people know going to college There there aren't that many jobs in this area, but there's more here And it doesn't mean they have to change what they're going for but they're aware that you're wasting your time going to college studying something that's already Antiquate You know, so it's really important.

48:01I think that we look at things and we educate people on society because if we wait until the changes happen which is pretty much what's happening. I remember I was with President Obama and I was saying, what do you guys discuss about this? He goes, well, you know, we don't really, you know, the change is going to happen, that happened. I said, but what if it does? Yeah. And it will. We all know, when it finally the change happens, it's like that. I know in this room what exponential change is, the general population, and unfortunately a lot of leaders don't think that way. We have social unrest if we don't get our act together and prepare people for what's coming.

48:31All this technology is magnificent. Lightning, you know, electricity and light of the city are kill people. Certainly it will be abused. Certainly it will, I think, be used for greater good over the long term. We just have to look at the transition time and what that's going to do with human emotion. Because our technology is faster than our emotional and psychological development right now. And that's a scary thing. And light year is faster than our government regulatory capacity. And that does scare me. We've had some conversation here about, you know, is this technology regularable? Can it be steered, can it be influenced, we can at least educate people what's coming.

49:05But the majority of people actually don't. I'm not the expert. When you talk to experts. Everybody, I want to take a short break from our episode to talk about a company that's very important to me and could actually save your life or the life of someone that you love. Companies called Fountain Life. It's a company I started years ago with Tony Robbins and a group of very talented physicians. You know, most of us don't actually know what's going on inside our body. We're all optimists. Until that day, when you have a pain in your side, you go to the physician and they burn in your room and they say, listen, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have this stage three or four going on.

49:42And you know, it didn't start that morning. It probably was a problem that's been going on for some time. But because we never look, we don't find out. So what we built at Fountain Life was the world's most advanced diagnostic centers We have four across the US today and we're building 20 around the world These centers give you a full -body MRI a brain a brain vascular chair an AI -nabled coronary CT looking for soft plaque dexascane a Grail blood cancer test a full executive blood workup. It's the most advanced workup you'll ever receive 150 gigabytes of data that then go to our AIs and our physicians to find any disease at the very beginning when it's solvable.

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51:08It really is something that is, for me, one of the most important things I offer my entire family, the CEOs of my companies, my friends, it's a chance to really add decades onto our healthy life spans. Go to fountainlife .com, backslash, Peter. It's one of the most important things I can offer to you if one of my listeners. Alright, let's go back to our episode. Let's talk about, you know, we've mentioned discussed work on that health is in you wealth. Yes. Let's talk about the work that you're doing in health that we've done together and that you're doing elsewhere. I'm like a fountain first or life force.

51:47Sure. Yeah. So we wrote a book together. It was initiated because I'm pretty crazy and I have a pretty nut schedule. I'm usually on stage not sitting like this, but we're 12 hours a day, 13 hours a day with people that wouldn't sit for a three hour movie that somebody spent 300 million dollars on. You've got to keep people engaged and I got a stadium full of people and I got to do that for four or five, six days in a row. So I've learned those skills. Now we're doing those when COVID came had to adapt. You can imagine I'm used to stadiums and all the sudden governor California calls up and says you can put a hundred people in that stadium.

52:19That's not going to work real well, right? And so I was like let's go to Vegas. We're going to Vegas. That's what we'll do. And then never shut down Vegas. 10 days outside of the event, Vegas they shut down Vegas. And I was like okay we'll go to Texas. Anybody here from Texas? Texas is his own country, right? You guys like if you're with the hell we want. I talk to the Governor, we're never shutting down. He tells me, I'm going to rent my buddies church, 15 ,000 people. Nine days before he go down, they shut down Texas, right? So I said, we'll do this in movie theaters, right? We're going to find this in movie theaters.

52:48And so sure enough, you know, I'm going to do 1500 movie theaters, 10 people each. The least have big sound, big, and the movie theater shut down. So I looked around and said, I can't do one of these little webinars on a little 52 inch screen on I'm used to a stadium. And so I built a stadium. I built a building of 50 foot high ceilings, put 20 foot high LED screens, 50 feet around. I went to Eric Yon as a friend from Zoom and said, you got to give me 25 ,000 people instead of 1 ,000. We built software so you could shake it. And now I did a program in January for 1 .5 million people from 195 countries for six days.

53:22That's how much I was grown to give you that idea. It's wild. But I had a group that followed me for three years prior to this change in my life, which has given me some more balance, sort of, getting more overseas. But they measure my body in all these different ways. That's what triggered this book on health. I've always been oriented towards health. I've got to be a peak performer you have to. And so if you're going to go 12 hours a day, well, they followed me for three years, and they were this device all day long, like 58 ,000 -dollar device, it measures heart big variability. Everything you're going to imagine.

53:52and they come and do my blood, they came and did my saliva to find out my hormonal shifts. And they found that I was burning 11 ,300 calories per day on stage to give you an idea. I said that's impossible, but they explained to me that chess players were going to burn 4 ,000 not moving. I was burning 3 ,500 before I got on the stage just by my focus. And then I found they jumped 1 ,000 times during the day because I don't stand on the stage. It was a real event. I'd be out in the crowd up in the group and just kind of like living in my completely much hug. you guys here. But in order to do that, I'm jumping a thousand times.

54:25Well, I weigh two hundred and eighty two pounds. Every time you jump and come down, it's four times your body weight. So imagine a thousand pounds, times a thousand jumps, a million pounds of pressure each day for, you know, 46 years. This is my 46 year. I started when I was two. And, hey. So, but anyway, the bottom line is that if you've ever been running with the friend and you can't speak anymore because the Lactic acid is built up to a four. I was at 18 still speaking. So I tell you this because along the way I'm used to like deliver all this and then suddenly I had two challenges. One was I didn't find out until afterwards I was starting to lose my memories.

55:04I'm like I'm on stage and I don't have any notes. I go 12 hours a day and suddenly I'm saying a story and like why was I telling this story? And I was good enough in what I'm doing and most people didn't know but I knew it was freaking me out. And so I found out that I had massive mercury poisoning on a zero to five scale and he measured a five I was 123 the highest they'd ever measured and you don't do anything small do you know I didn't do the small They actually sent I did this in New York and they sent the health department out to my house in Florida They thought maybe my wife is trying to kill me since I have a large life insurance policy, which she was not fortunately But I was a vegan for so many years like 14 years and then I wanted more protein I went to just fish, but my fish was swordfish and tuna.

55:46And swordfish and tuna are 75 -year -old fish. They eat all the smaller fish, absorb all of their mercury, and my body doesn't methylate well. So the result was I was losing my memories of my energy, the Scroogey ATP, everything else. So I had to detox that. And then in the middle of that, I decided to be an idiot and follow a professional 20 -year -old snowboarder down a mountain. And let's just say I did not make the same moves he did. and I ended up, I thought I broke my neck and I ripped my rotator cuff severely. So I go to four different doctors, all really brilliant surgeons and they're all like surgery, surgery, surgery, and I say, what about stem cells?

56:21And I said, no, no, they'll never work. And then I called Peter and I said, who's the best in stem cells in the world? I don't know, you know, Sweden, if you've known Bob before but didn't make the connection between Bob and her. Bob and I talked and it's like, let me introduce you my friend Bob, early on about stem It's like let me introduce you to LeBron James. I'll teach you about basketball. It's kind of an approach And so Bob said Tony, you know, they're right if you do your own stem cells after 40 you just don't have them But if you could get court stem cells and he told me where to go and I did it and Peter knows Four days later my arm was perfect four days from such nerve pain.

56:54I couldn't barely breathe to perfect no surgery The prognosis before was it would be six to you know eight weeks minimum maybe 90 days maybe more, you can retair. I've had friends I've told about one is gone and done this, the other one did the traditional prompties retort twice. So I decide I want to write a book on the very best, let's like it in finance, go interview the best in the world and the best person to do it with the Peter, so we did it together. And then, you know, just like when I did the financial book, I wrote this financial book. At the end of it, it was 670 pages and it's, you know, still the number one financial book of the last 20 years.

57:28But I was like, people won't all do this, they need someone hold their hands. So they need a fiduciary. Somebody who's a real fiduciary, not somebody claims they're a fiduciary. So I found ten top fiduciaries and I recommend the book. I took no money for the book. I donated all the money for the book and then sure enough I find out about six months later that there's this gray area in the law where someone can say they're a fiduciary and a minute later they're a broker and they just change their hat angle and you don't know the difference. And maybe so angry I wrote a new book. I kicked all those people off of it and put together a new partnership.

58:01And in that partnership, we took a company called Creative Planning from 18 billion to 50 billion in AUM, that an unbelievable job, and now they're at 200 billion. And so I've told my interest in it, but I decided we should do the same thing in health. We need to give people the answers they can do on their own, but we should find a location. And so together, we really formed with two of our partners, Fountain Life. Yeah, it was amazing. We launched that now some four years ago, and ultimately wanted a place that we could send people that would have the highest level diagnostics and therapeutics.

58:36It's still expensive, and that's a problem, right? Dimonitizing and democratizing this, and we have out of the book, I think, a wait list of like 30 locations that want to do it. But I think the real innovation for us was the health insurance side. That's right. So if you think about this, 14 % of people that come to fountain life, we do full body MRIs, we do everything. I meant many of you now, now there's like the grail test that can find up to 50 different cancers. You know, the challenge with cancer is most of the cancers that kill us because we find them at stage three and stage four. And usually that's because we don't have a test for it.

59:08Most of the cancers we don't have. 70 % of all cancers that kill you are not being tested for. That's correct. And so the study shows that if you get it at stage three or stage four diagnosis, you have an 80 % chance of dying. I prefer the 20 % chance of living, but their point is if you get a level first stage or second, you have between 90 and 99 .9 % chance of survival. So we have people come in, 14 % of the people that come through our centers have a life threatening issue. They don't know about that we can handle immediately. And I had one friend that went to his wife kept pushing him and pushing him and I said, you know, you might want to listen to your wife because he's got good ideas here.

59:44He said, I've been to the doctor. You think Think about what a physicalist today. It's the same crap that you went through 50 years ago. It's absurd. You don't really learn anything. And yet we have all this incredible data that we can pull out. So people come in and they discover he and man and found out that he had kidney cancer. Stage one, an outpatient procedure took him 45 minutes and he's totally fine. I can't tell you how many people are coming and said it saved my life. So 40 % of the people who come see there's multiple things they can do to massively increase their energy. It's either a hormonal issue or some other balance as well.

1:00:15So people come in and they discover things, but we were talking about how do we make this, you know, financially able for people and so we formed, you know, a life insurance copy or should they help us? We're across the same amount of money as any other health insurance, but what we do is we do all this testing up front. We invest in the money up front. Most of the expenses on the back end where people are dying. So we only save lives, the most important thing, but we make it economically feasible for people to be able to have all their employees know where they stand right now. Catch it when it's little.

1:00:45Now, he was one of the people he said, I don't want to know this stuff. I don't want to hear all this. No, I find something that's really not there, but I was totally wrong. When you dig in with a data we have today, the false positives are so small, you're crazy. You're going to find out eventually when you want to know. That's true. And it's a transformation and it drives me nuts. The healthcare system we have in the United States, at least, is so expensive and its performance is so poor. and we need a revolution and it's not health care. It's disease care. And so there is nothing more valuable than your health.

1:01:20Yeah, so I'm very proud of the team and what we've done there. And if it works successfully, we're in a situation at the end of the day that will transform and flip the insurance company. Fire insurance pays you after your house burns down. Health insurance pays you after your sick. Life insurance pays you an exakin after your dead, right? Let's flip that business model great opportunities if you have an insurance business out there 21 of the big Challenges and questions we've talked a lot about at least last few days is mental health and You know what can we do? We're going to eventually you know, we have some incredible technology from Mary Lou Jepson Who's here who's learning how to you know has been reading and writing onto neurons and can eventually transform your mental status, how emotionally can use that to measure blood flow in the brain for stroke analysis, ultimately disrupt glioblastomas, incredible work.

1:02:17But it turns out that you have been doing that in an amazing way. Can you talk about the work and the studies recently done on mental health? Well, I got a depression in particular. Yeah, depression is out of control. One of the reasons that a control is people today have no compelling future, kids today. You know, you hear many millennial kids, now I say kids, and the oldest ones are 41, 42 years old now. And ex -generation, talking about not having any children because they believe the story that the whole world is going to hell that we're gonna have an ecological disaster And how could I raise my child in this environment?

1:02:50Or they think we're so divided. I mean if I showed you Images of John Adams and Jefferson and what they said about each other you'd see that nothing has changed in all this time period We just have some yep, you have somebody has it and they throw it up on the screen. Yeah, I've just figured out this funny says, you know, if you like Thomas Jeffens, he's a murder, he's a robber, he's a rape incest, the adulterer who, who's practiced, will be practiced throughout the land. You're prepared to see your dwellings and flames. Female chastity violated. Our children ribbing in piquence is John Adams talking about Thomas Jefferson.

1:03:19And you can see Jefferson talking about him. He's importing Mr. System Europe and trying to marry one of his sons to the daughter of King George. He's a hideous hermaphrodite character with neither the force of firmness of a man or the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. Wow, he makes Trump look at you. Those are our founding fathers talking about each other. So I guess the whole Trump thing has been around longer than we think, right? But my point is that we need a compelling future. Any we can deal with a tough today if they have a compelling tomorrow. But we aren't providing that. There's no vision anymore communicated.

1:03:52Everything is about how to rationalize, make it smaller. It's not the opposite of what this conference is about. It's not about abundance. It's about scarcity. And it's just not true. I remember when I was in junior high school I had this teacher that came in one day and he was always doing the weird things And we were I was wondering if it was ever gonna drive a car because some of you old enough to remember when we had gas rationing in the 70s Under Carter and I didn't have a car yet But people had a stand -in line for about a mile long and depending upon whether your license plate ended in an odd or even number Just wonder whether you could even buy gas that day regardless of the line and I remember he came and he read this document It was from the New York Times and it talked about lights out.

1:04:31We're out of oil. Everything's going to stop. And, you know, we've seen this, the club of Rome did this in the 70s. We've heard over and over. We're all going to die, right? And it's just not true. But what's really interesting, you read this article at the end, it was whale oil. It was from the New York Times in the 1850s. It was great. But to answer your question specifically, during COVID, I was approached by Stanford University and they said they had two of their professors that attended one of my programs called Date with Destiny. Some of you, if you go on Netflix, there's a documentary on if you're interested in seeing.

1:05:04It's called Tony Robbins on Netflix. How many folks here have been to Date with Destiny? Holy shit. Yeah. And it's one of the most transformative, amazing programs on the planet. If there are a couple of things I wish I had done when I was younger in my life, that was most definitely one of them. That one, Burning Man, Ayahuasca, you know, move it up there a year. I'm glad I'm throwing in right next to Burning Man. That's awesome. Yeah. But they said we have two of our professors go through this six day program yours and we can't believe it. They have no symptoms of depression. And we're curious, do you have any data on this?

1:05:36I said, well, data, I've got hundreds of thousands of clients, millions of clients, but testimonials and stories. And I know what happens. You're changing the focus. You're changing the meaning. Which changes the biochemistry. And they said, well, how about we do a study then? I said, great. And I said, what do you want to study? said, just depression, how effective this is with them. I said, well, I think you're going to find it to be very effective, but what's the best? What's the, what's the, what the meta study show? I don't know if you guys are aware of it, but 60 % of the people that go in for treatment of depression with drugs and ortho therapy do not get an ounce better.

1:06:0960 % only 40 % improve. And according to meta studies, half improvement is about 50 % improvement. So they're half as depressed as they were. And they're taking medications that on the Besides, it says crates suicidal thoughts in some cases. And I don't know if you saw the cover of newsweek recently, it was about three or four months ago, but the meta studies now show the SSRs don't work, but we're still feeding them people. It's just insane. So I said, okay, 40%, I said, hell, you could do that well with a placebo. And they said, almost. And I said, so what's the meta study? What's the single best study you've ever produced?

1:06:45And they said, three and a half years ago at Johns Hopkins, they did a study where they gave people psilocybin, magic mushrooms, and cognitive therapy for a month. So you're stone for a month and talking for a month. Something's got to change, right? And so sure enough, the greatest result they've ever seen in the history of psychiatry. 30 days later, 54 % of the people had no symptoms whatsoever after 30 days of this drug. But unfortunately, it's illegal. And no one has really fallen through on it. There's people trying to pass to get it involved in therapists. So I said, great, why don't you use the same contrasting group as that?

1:07:20Model that's that. I mean, let's do it. So they did. And the results were so insane that they didn't publish them right away. They blind sent the data to different organizations. And finally, they published it in the Journal of Psychiatry last year. 100 % of the people 30 days later having no drugs, 100 % not a single seven of depression, not one. And night, 17 % of the participants had, when they went in, had suicidal ideation, committing suicide or a thought of suicide, zero at the end of those. But the thing I was most proud of is, a year later, 11 months later, they tested people again with no further interaction from you whatsoever, and they had a 72 % reduction in negative motions, a 51 % improvement in positive emotions.

1:08:06So it's just, it's extraordinary. and why does it work? That's what they want to know. And it's biochemical. So remember, I told you, they followed me for three years. One of the groups does this work with Stanford. They do this performance modeling like on Tom Brady and people of that nature. Some sports teams that have continually dominated like the Warriors. And sure enough, they find that there's a biochemical change in people that can perform at the highest level under stress. They call it the championship biochemistry. And what it is very simply is, I got like Tom Brady, he's, you know, there's two minutes It's left, he's down by 10 points.

1:08:39And we've seen him do this over and over, come back and win. Super bowls, how does he do it? Well, he gets a surge of testosterone, which my body does explosively at levels that you rarely see. And then cortisol, which is the stress hormone, drops to the floor. So as a result, you have all this drive and total clarity without fear. And what's interesting is, every time they measure me, I do this, but when we started doing this, they did it with my wide audience, then they started measuring when we did this digitally. So we got people all over the world doing an event and they're all in their homes And I didn't even think I could pull that off and have it be effective But we figured ways to do it and they went sent people around the world and measured them as well And if you know mirror neurons these people's biochemistry literally mirrors my biochemistry looks like music We all go into that championship state and in that state also with that testosterone increase your cognitive capacity Explodes massively they did another study at Stanford where they just did increased in cognitive capacity, for example.

1:09:34And I saw 300 % increase out of my event at contrasting against the number one most popular professor at Stanford teaching my exact content. He got great improvements, but 30 days later it was gone. And the reason is, I believe in what I call EQBing. EQBing is, I got a creative biochemical change in you for you to change. It's not just intellectual, otherwise it doesn't last, right? And it's got to be somewhat conditioned. So I believe you got to entertain people first, especially today's society. We're not an information society. There's too much information. We're drowning information starving for wisdom So especially young people got to entertain them So I entertain them so that you know a long time as you're not enjoying yourself, right?

1:10:11Could be two minutes a great time hours go by so we produce that entertainment then we empower people We shift them biochemically by movement by music and so forth to make a real shift then while they're in that state We get them to do things to develop new habits and a combination of those three things This creates a long -term impact of retention and cognitive impact and more importantly, behavioral change. Everybody at his Peter, a quick break from the episode. I'm a firm believer that science and technology and how entrepreneurs can change the world is the only real news out there worth consuming.

1:10:45I don't watch the Crisis News Network. I call CNN or Fox and hear every devastating piece of news on the planet. I spend my time training my neural net the way I see the world by looking at the incredible breakthroughs in science and technology. How entrepreneurs are solving the world's grand challenges. What the breakthroughs are in longevity. How exponential technologies are transforming our world. So twice a week I put out a blog. One blog is looking at the future of longevity, age reversal, biotech, increasing your health span. The other blog looks at exponential technologies, AI, 3D printing, synthetic biology, AR, VR, blockchain, and these technologies are transforming what you as an entrepreneur can do.

1:11:31If this is the kind of you use you want to learn about and shape your neural nets with, go to demandus .com, backslashblog, and learn more. Now back to the episode. Tony, you're also playing in the extraordinary world of energy. It's a big complex area, but can you tell us about the moonshot you're taking in that area? Well, there are several technologies that I've been exposed to over time that can make a difference, and I'm working with some of my friends in the Middle East as leverage to take those things to scale. I can't actually, I just signed a deal, a potential deal, and I can't give you the details, but I'll give you just what's available.

1:12:11You know, here in California, you see the governor, here's a beautiful man and he comes out and says, you can't have, you know, combustion cars by what it was a 2030. And two weeks later, you can't plug in your electric car because there's not enough electricity to support it. So we're ahead of our skis. Anybody who's intelligent knows this. I just interviewed Jamie from JP Morgan. And Jamie Diamond. And he was acknowledging all these, this ISG, We've screwed ourselves over. We're saying we're going to do this and we don't have the technology yet I'm everybody wants green energy, but we don't have the conversion we don't have the storage or the capacity and so the price is going crazy Here in LA the price was eight cents a kilowatt hour.

1:12:51It's 49 cents. They just approve So people like us that doesn't affect the average person that affects massively and we all want green energy green energy So just we got to make sure that it works and so I love that you're going to do this a question project here I think that's fantastic carbon. But there's one organization, and again, I'm sorry, I can't talk about the details now, but we'll be publicizing it as soon as it's confirmed the next 45 days. Can you talk about the basic technology? I'll tell you how it works. They're able to take any hydrocarbon, so oil, gas, or coal, and subtract the carbon out of it before they burn it.

1:13:26And they sequester that in graphite. And graphite is a core ingredient that's needed for everything you can imagine from batteries on down. But what's amazing is they can create pure green hydrogen then and this is not like an allow I've actually seen it in a particular location where it's the first location where it's working. Hydrogen pure power nothing but moisture carbon totally sequester you don't need to have a price to do it I was thinking they should probably come up and apply for your prize and get the hundred million added to their list because they're doing it right now. But the side effect of it there's two side effects that are amazing.

1:13:59One is, okay, get graphite. Well, they may graphite at $50 a ton and it costs $500 a ton. Now graphene, many of you are probably familiar with, was discovered in 14 years ago. It's 200 times stronger than steel. It's 100 times lighter than paper. It has greater conductivity than copper. There are more applications pending for applications of this, you know, the federal government, but almost nothing's being used because it costs between 67 ,000 and 200 ,000 a metric ton. So it's so expensive no one can really use it yet. They can make it as a side product between 3 ,500 and 5 ,000 a ton. So everything I've seen as far as there, I'm going through validation process with some very potent people.

1:14:43If it goes forward, they'll start converting plants. What's great is there's 3 ,800 power plants that produce a third of the CO2 in the world and you don't have to care about them, about the environment. You're being pressured to anyway, but even if you didn't care, you'll do it because they can convert a plant in less than 12 months, cost about 125 million. They get all their money back within seven months from just side benefits. You can take a plant that was earning 50 or 60 million and earn three to 500 million from the same power plant. So instead of shutting down the power plants and not having them and losing those jobs, we convert them to clean energy immediately.

1:15:15This is technology that currently exists. And again, until I've seen the final final final verifications, everything I hold back, but there'll be something that will be not spiky about states that are looking at it right now. This is an example of the kinds of breakthroughs that are materializing. They're enabling us to slay these grand challenges that are so scary when you first hear about them. But the human mind comes in to fill the void, to solve it over and over again. The biggest challenge I think we have is the media. They're good people. There's no one in the media. It's a bad person. but they're doing what they're paid for.

1:15:52They gotta get money for their shareholders. There's only one way, get your attention. Yeah. Again, it's an attention economy now. What gets your attention? Even the old days when we bought newspapers and you walked by, if it said, good weather this weekend, you kept walking. It's a big storm coming. You put in your 50 cents and got the paper. Today, it follows you in your pocket. And now, you and I both know, the story doesn't even have to be truthful. All they need is the headline to grab you. Once you click on it, they're paid. So we have a tough situation in that we're constantly feeding the worst possible scenario to people.

1:16:23And then wondering why people don't, why they're depressed, why they don't want to move forward with children, why people don't want to go to work. And I think it's our job to shut that off and take back control of our own minds and do the best we can for our kids and friends of that nature as well.

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In this episode, recorded during this year Peter’s Executive Summit, Abundance360, Peter and Tony discuss moonshots and the audacious goals Tony has set for himself and the world.

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