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Morning Brew Daily - Episode 293 Summary
Podcast Title: Morning Brew Daily Episode Title: Tesla Stock Dives on Q1 Delivery Miss & McKinsey Offers Staff Pay to Go Away Hosts: Neal Freyman and Toby Howell Release Date: April 3, 2024
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Episode Overview In this episode, Neal and Toby discuss several significant topics, including Tesla’s disappointing Q1 delivery numbers, Jon Stewart's fallout with Apple, General Electric's corporate restructuring, McKinsey's unusual policy of paying staff to leave, sports funding debates in Kansas City, and the relevance of neckties in modern fashion.
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Key Discussions
Tesla’s Rough Q1
- Delivery Issues: Tesla reported a surprising decline in vehicle deliveries, down 8.5% from the previous year, with 378,000 deliveries that fell short of analyst expectations.
- Market Reaction: Stock prices are affected, with Tesla down 33% for the year.
- Supply and Demand Problems:
- Supply chain disruptions due to geopolitical events.
- Increased competition from domestic EV makers such as BYD and Xiaomi.
- Analysts highlight a potential demand problem for Tesla, attributed to a saturated market and outdated models.
Jon Stewart vs. Apple
- Content Restrictions: Jon Stewart revealed that Apple asked him not to interview FTC Chair Lena Khan during his show on Apple TV+, raising concerns about censorship.
- Regulatory Scrutiny: Stewart’s claims resonate with ongoing antitrust discussions surrounding Apple’s business practices.
- Cultural Tension: The inherent conflict between the content produced on streaming services and the platforms that host them.
General Electric’s Corporate Split
- Break-Up Strategy: GE has split into three distinct companies: GE Aerospace, GE Vernova (energy), and GE Healthcare.
- Leadership Transition: CEO Larry Culp’s management strategies focused on selling assets and reducing debt have led to a healthier, more streamlined GE.
- Historical Context: Reflection on GE’s legacy and the impact of former CEO Jack Welch’s aggressive management style.
McKinsey’s Unique Approach to Staffing
- Pay to Leave: McKinsey is offering senior employees up to nine months' pay to seek new employment, aiming to manage headcount without layoffs.
- Consulting Market Downturn: The firm faces challenges in a consulting market that has shifted post-pandemic, leading to surplus staff.
- Branding Strategy: This approach helps maintain McKinsey’s reputation as a desirable employer in the competitive consulting landscape.
Sports Funding Debate in Kansas City
- Tax Measure Rejection: Residents rejected a proposed tax increase to fund new stadiums for the Chiefs and Royals, indicating a growing backlash against public funding for sports franchises.
- Community Concerns: Residents express concern about economic impacts and disruption to local businesses.
- Implications for Teams: The Chiefs and Royals may need to reconsider their funding strategies or explore relocation options.
Are Neckties Out of Fashion?
- Cultural Shift: Discussion of the declining popularity of neckties, particularly among public figures.
- Fashion Adaptability: Despite declines, neckties remain culturally relevant; their use is evolving into a statement of individual expression rather than compulsory formalwear.
- Advice on Ties: Recommendations on how to style neckties in modern settings, emphasizing that their relevance persists alongside changing fashion norms.
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Conclusion The episode provides insight into major business and cultural shifts while highlighting the interconnectedness of market trends and public sentiment. It emphasizes the evolving nature of corporate strategies and consumer preferences in the face of changing social dynamics.
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0:27Good morning for your Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, Tesla is straight up not having a good time after posting a disaster Q1. Then General Electric was once the most valuable company in America, but now it's charting a path forward as three separate public companies. It's Wednesday, April 3rd. Let's ride.
0:52So yesterday, the company who owns the UFC and WWE was the center of attention after its majority shareholder Endeavor Group announced it was going private after being acquired by the PE firm Silver Lake. And while that deal may have been on your radar, if you're a fan of watching people hit each other really hard, either for real or for show, for the rest of us, it was nerve wracking because for a moment, it seemed like the best stock ticker on the public markets might be going away. The group who owns the two fighting leagues trades under the ticker TKO, which is just perfection, Neil. Best out there.
1:26It is good. It's not my favorite, to be honest. I'm more of the quiet luxury type when it comes to stock tickers. So I like the ones that have single letters. You got T for AT &T, F for Ford Motor, C for Citigroup, Z for Zillow, and the best X for U.S. Steel. I'm sure Elon Musk is not happy that U.S. Steel got that one. But I do prefer the just simple elegance of the single letter. And did you know that 20 of the 26 single letter ticker symbols are in use on the New York Stock Exchange? I did not know that, Neil. And I do like your style. I'm more of a fun guy. Literally, Cedar Fair, the amusement park company, trades under the ticker fun.
2:06Harley Davidson trades under the ticker hog, which you just gotta love. And then Heineken trades under Heine, which chef's kiss right there. Now let's hear a word from our friends over at Robinhood. You know, Toby, when I started investing 20 years ago, you had to call your broker to place a trade on the phone. And then they charge you 50 bucks for each trade. Even when I started trading a few years ago, so many big brokerages were charging commission fees for trades. Now, apps like Robinhood have no commission fees, and you can trade with just a few taps. Trading's not just for those guys in the special blazers in the stock exchange anymore.
2:42Yeah, almost 50 % of the U.S. population says they invest in equities. Robinhood alone has over 23 million investors. Robinhood really makes you feel in control. It's got all the tools you need to level up your investing. Now I know what I'm getting you for your birthday. Special floor trader Blazer. I am so lucky to have you as a friend. To the rest of my friends, learn more about trading stocks in Robinhood's free app in the App Store or Google Play Store. Disclosures, investing involves risk. Other fees apply. Robinhood Financial LLC, member SIPC. Race the runners! Raise the sails! Raise the sails!
3:17Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching. Over. Roger. Wait, is that an enterprise sales solution? Reach sales professionals, not professional sailors. With LinkedIn ads, you can target the right people by industry, job title, and more. Start converting your B2B audience today. Spend$250 on your first campaign and get a free$250 credit for the next one. Get started today at linkedin.com slash campaign. Terms and conditions apply. Tesla is credited with single-handedly creating the market for electric vehicles, sparking one of the biggest transformations in business history as automakers swapped out internal combustion engines for batteries to power vehicles.
3:57Now, though, it seems like it's getting beat at its own game. Tesla released Q1 sales numbers yesterday, and they were bad, shockingly bad. The company delivered 8.5 % fewer vehicles than a year ago, the first time its quarterly sales have fallen since 2020. And while expectations were in the dumps, no one expected the performance to be this ugly. The 378 ,000 vehicle deliveries missed estimates by the widest margin ever. And that means Tesla finds itself in this unthinkable position. It made too many cars, leaving it with nearly 50 ,000 more cars than it handed over to customers. Tesla has never had that problem, and it's raising alarms that demand for Teslas has declined significantly.
4:39And look, the EV market broadly has slowed down. It's not growing at the rate it had been. That's a fact, but it's not shrinking either, which suggests that Tesla's recent misery is its own doing. Yeah. So what went wrong? The answer is lots of things. Just on this supply side, Houthi militia attacks on shippers in the Red Sea. They disrupted some of Tesla's supply chain. Also in March, environmental activists set fire to infrastructure around the Berlin Gigafactory, which caused a pause in production. But then in China, Tesla has just faced this onslaught of competition from the domestic EV makers like BYD.
5:15And then newcomers from the phone maker Xiaomi are also both undercutting Tesla on price and a little bit on quality as well. So Tesla actually reduced production of its Model 3 and Model Y at its Shanghai plant. It's reduced the amount of days that workers are working there as well. So that's just on the supply side of the things. But as you mentioned, it's not just a supply issue by any means. No, analysts are saying for the first time ever, Tesla is facing a demand problem. A few years ago, this would have been unthinkable because Elon Musk was at the factory in California saying they were in, quote, production hell.
5:52He was sleeping there. Tesla could not make enough vehicles fast enough to fulfill demand. Now it appears like people just maybe don't want Teslas as much as they used to. There's a host of competition, not just in China, but here in the U.S. as well. We just on Monday talked about South Korean automakers taking a huge bite of market share here in the U.S. from Tesla. Tesla used to have 65 percent of the market. Now it has 55 percent. So you hear whispers that maybe Elon Musk's antics on social media and his increasing political stances are maybe causing some would-be Tesla customers to look elsewhere for electric vehicles because they are plentiful now.
6:29Right. And then also Tesla models are kind of old by car standards now because there hasn't been a real new model release if you don't count the Cybertruck, which is kind of so outside of what normal consumers buy that it doesn't even really move the needle in terms of new releases. So the much anticipated new budget model around that$25 ,000 range that's been, again, teased for a long, long time now, that won't be available until at least late 2025. So there just isn't a lot of new stuff on the market outside the Cybertruck to get Tesla people fired up. Let's remember to zoom out, though. Tesla isn't the only automaker getting kind of wrecked by falling demand right now.
7:10Rivian also missed some of its production targets. Ford and GM are also taking a step back and reworking their EV plans because the demand has been weaker than expected. So this is not just a Tesla thing. It is a wider EV market. Yeah, but all of those other besides RV and GM and Ford and all those other automakers have internal traditional cars that Tesla doesn't. So if you're Tesla, do you want Elon Musk? Like Elon Musk appears pretty disengaged. He didn't tweet about this at all. He was busy tweeting about Disney's proxy fight, which we'll talk about tomorrow. but you know do you want him to go back and and show a sign of support for tesla or do you want him to just even step away and hand the reins over that's what analysts are deciding right now what they want elon must do but he needs to do something because tesla is down 33 this year and it's the second worst performing s &p 500 stock let's move on you know when one of your friends goes through a bit of a messy relationship and afterwards you can't help but ask for the tea around everything that went down before the breakup.
8:08Well, Jon Stewart is finally ready to spill the beans about one of his exes, Apple TV +, who carried his show for two season run that ended abruptly in October. According to Stewart, Apple explicitly asked him to not interview FTC chair Lena Khan on his podcast while he was still hosting the show on their platform. It's a shocking revelation, but also not so shocking at the same time. Apple has attracted a lot of attention from regulatory agencies for its potentially anti-competitive business practices and influence in the tech industry. And it's currently facing a antitrust lawsuit from the Justice Department.
8:44But it is interesting to hear from Stewart's mouth the exact limitations they put on him while he was beholden to them while distributing his show. Well, this is crazy because Monday night he's interviewing Lena Kahn on Comedy Central on The Daily Show, which he now hosts on Mondays. And he's just talking to her and he tells her, wait, wait a second. Did you know that Apple did not let me interview you? And then she, who's this anti-tech crusader, kind of replied and she had her talking points ready. She goes, I think it just shows one of the dangers of what happens when you concentrate so much power and so much decision making in a small number of companies.
9:19So she had the talking points ready, but it is very, it's sort of a warning sign for these companies that are tech companies, ostensibly, Apple wants to sell you iPhones and iPads and software and things like that. And they get into the media and content game. There's signs, I mean, at least according to Stewart, that they've censored him over the course of his employment there. Right. Stewart also said that Apple wouldn't let him talk about things like AI or China. He did end up talking about AI on his show earlier this week. And he discussed the false promise of it. And he did also say that Apple would not have let me do that segment while I was on their show.
9:59And I mean, Apple is all about keeping their brand extremely squeaky clean. I mean, they won't even let villains use iPhones in movies. So it is going to be there's going to be inherent tension whenever a new show is on their platform, because you have to talk about some of these hot button issues that Apple maybe doesn't want to be associated with. And this was specifically called out in the DOJ lawsuit dropped two weeks ago against Apple's iPhone ecosystem. The government accused Apple of exercising its role as TV and movie producer to control content. And so Jon Stewart is definitely airing a lot of dirty laundry that echoes a lot of what the government is accusing Apple of doing.
10:38Right. And there's just inherent tension between talk shows hosted on streaming platforms in general because cable and network shows, they get to lean on the news cycle. They get to lean on the urgency of breaking news. streaming shows on the other hand you you don't log on to them in real time it's more of something you put it on you scroll through it's almost like browsing a digital blockbuster in a way so you need to have a longer shelf life so just in general there is tension between what the kind of show that Jon Stewart is trying to produce and the kind of show that does well on a streaming service so that just undermines and underlies this whole uh kind of brouhaha yeah and Jon Stewart is certainly not the first sort of late night talk show host to criticize their parent company.
11:20They're known, these talk shows are known for criticizing corporations. Sometimes those corporations are their, are their owners. So John Oliver criticized AT &T when it owned HBO parent Warner Media on his HBO show. And then last year, this was a huge dust up when Aaron Rodgers went on ESPN's Pat McAfee show, criticized Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel also is under the Disney umbrella. He works for ABC. And so there is that sort of internal conflict between those two there. I haven't said this in like two weeks, so it feels great to declare that once again, Toby, you can join in. It's the end of an era.
12:00And what era is that? The General Electric era. The house that Thomas Edison built over a century ago is no more. As of yesterday, it split into three separate public companies, signaling the denouement of one of America's most iconic corporations. The GE that once lit your house, washed your clothes, and microwaved your leftovers is now GE Aerospace, which makes jet engines, GE Vernova, the energy wing, and GE Healthcare, which focuses on, well, healthcare. The split is the brainchild of CEO Larry Culp, who came into GE in 2018 and faced a bigger cleanup job than the morning after a frat party.
12:37At the time, GE was a shell of its former self and loaded with$100 billion of debt. But Culp sold off a ton of assets, paid all that down, and got GE to a much healthier, if smaller, place that it's now in. Find peace of management, if I do say so myself. Absolutely. GE is famous for its managerial history, because especially under Jack Welch, before there was Elon Musk, before there was Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos, there was Jack Welch. He was kind of the first celebrity CEO from the 80s to 2001. He would do things like rank employees, firing the bottom 10 % every year. He fired more than 100 ,000 employees in his first few years at the helm of GE.
13:20Ultimately, though, did well to his famous leadership style lead to long-term profits. It's a little bit up for debate. He was a grow-at-all-cost guy. He was the one who pushed GE into these increasingly risky and aggressive acquisitions. He bought NBC in 1986. It didn't translate super well to long-term profits, though. The 2008 financial crisis ended up impacting GE's business a lot because they got into subprime mortgages and short-term lending. And now it's kind of culminated into this broken-up version of GE into these three separate companies. Yeah. I mean, when Jack Welch was seen, he was considered the manager of the century in 1999.
13:58He was this larger-than-life character. but he got into these areas that GE was maybe not best equipped to be in. I mean, this was parodied in 30 Rock, the show about NBC and a late night show there. So they brought in Jack Donaghy, who's the boss in 30 Rock. His title was the head of East Coast Television and Microwave Oven Programming. And that's sort of a satire to say that. Why is a company like GE getting into the television business, And it maybe speaks to the larger bloat that had happened for GE under Jack Welch and future CEOs. Now we're in the Larry Culp era, and it looks a lot more stable than the Jack Welch era.
14:38He came in as really the first outsider to run GE back in 2018. And he's done just some good old-fashioned management. He paid off debt by selling assets. He improved cash flow by streamlining operations, cutting overhead costs. Just the fundamentals. That was the most jargony thing. But it is true. That's what he did. And remember, we talked about Boeing CEO is now that role is now open. Larry Culp, after what he did with GE here, is definitely being floated as a name that could replace the CEO position there. Up next, McKinsey consultants are getting paid to leave the company and the chiefs might be leaving Kansas City as well.
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16:49McKinsey is the creme de la creme of consulting firms. McKinsey is also offering to pay hundreds of its senior employees to leave the company and work somewhere else. You heard that right. McKinsey wants to reduce headcount and is willing to pay people to leave rather than lay them off. Managers at UK offices and some US offices have the option to spend up to nine months looking for a new job instead of working on client projects while still collecting a paycheck. Part of this is because there has been a general downturn in the consulting market, causing McKinsey to cut 1 ,400 back offices last year.
17:25And part of it is because people don't really quit their jobs after being hired at McKinsey. The firm has one of the lowest attrition rates in the consulting world, which has ended up biting them in the butt since low performers often stick around longer than expected. Neil, getting paid to quiet quit, what a life it must be to don that McKinsey Patagonia vest, head to work, then not have to work. These companies will do anything but actually lay off employees. They have this policy already in place, which is called counsel to leave, which sounds exactly what it sounds like, which is maybe we have a discussion, me and you, and we're like, Toby, maybe you're not the perfect fit here.
18:02I'm not going to fire you, but maybe you want to go to another job. And so why are they so resistant to firing or laying off people? Think of part of their recruiting strategy, and they want the top MBA grads across the nation, across the world, is they want to place you, they want you to get a really good job after you go from McKinsey, you spend two to three years there and then go on to a better job. If they can use that in their marketing materials to get really good candidates, then they want to do that. So maybe that's a reason why they're saying, We'll pay you a huge salary for nine months, not to do anything for us, but maybe you'll use that time to find a really good job.
18:39And then we can use that in our recruiting efforts. Also, maybe you'll be an executive or in a manager role in another job, and then you can hire McKinsey. Right. It works on both ends of the spectrum there. What's so ironic about McKinsey, though, is that McKinsey's absolutely world famous for telling other businesses to cut jobs in the name of efficiencies. Duff McDonald wrote this book called The Firm About McKinsey, and he said McKinsey is maybe the single greatest legitimizer of mass layoffs of anyone, anywhere, at any time in modern history. So there's just this hefty dose of irony that they themselves refuse to conduct any layoffs at their admittedly very bloated company right now.
19:18Now, back in 2018, it had just 28 ,000 employees. That's ballooned up to 45 ,000 employees. So it's definitely, as we're entering this, maybe some headwinds are facing the consulting industry. It is a little too big right now. Oh, absolutely. The consulting industry has taken a big dive in this post-COVID world. They were being asked to consult a lot during 2020 and 2021 when companies were like, eh, we have a pandemic going on. I really have no idea what to do. Can you help me navigate this pandemic? So all these companies, Accenture, Erson Young, Bain, McKinsey, Boston Consulting Group, they all staffed up like crazy because their services were in high demand.
19:59Now companies are maybe back to normal. They know what they're doing. There's no pandemic anymore. Their demand for McKinsey and other consultants has certainly dried up. There's also been a lot of ethical scandals about McKinsey advising governments like Saudi Arabia and China that are sort of geopolitical rivals with the U.S. and have questions of their own. So there does seem to be a bit of a backlash against this particular industry. All that said, though, McKinsey did have a record revenue year last year, booked$16 billion in revenue. So it's always a little bit of mixed signals here. Even as you see these headlines, McKinsey is still chugging along quite nicely.
20:36Moving on, it's not often that Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey lose. They've won three Super Bowls in five years after all. But yesterday, they suffered a stinging defeat by the residents of Jackson County, Missouri, leaving the Chiefs and Royals future in Kansas City in doubt. Residents, by a wide margin, rejected a measure that would have created a new three-eighths of a cent sales tax over 40 years to fund a new Royals stadium in downtown Kansas City and overhaul the Chiefs stadium, which is the third oldest in the NFL. The sports teams had poured millions into convincing voters to support their stadium plans, enlisting the two megastars, Mahomes and Kelsey, in an ad campaign that urged voters to pass the sales tax.
21:17We need you, Kelsey says in the ad. Let's keep this rolling. But in the end, angry residents decided they did not want their tax dollars to help fund stadiums for teams owned by billionaires. And it's one of the most significant signs yet of the growing backlash against the use of public funds for local sports franchises. Because if people in Kansas City, an area with so many championships recently, aren't fully behind their teams, then maybe it could happen anywhere. So where does this leave Kansas City residents right now? The Chiefs could try again with a different taxpayer plan that voters like a little bit more.
21:49They could change their entire funding approach to include more private investment because they've seen this pushback from taxpayers. or they could even listen to offers from different cities or states such as Kansas, which is right across the border or right across the state line. That would be more open to the public funding that they want. It just seems completely unheard of for a place like Kansas City that has seen so much success, at least on the chief side of things, that suddenly they could be looking at a different state entirely just because they can't come to an agreement around these fundraising strategies that they're approaching.
22:24Right. Well, they're only the chiefs. They're only pouring in three hundred million dollars of their own money for what would be an eight hundred million dollar overhaul. So, I mean, if I'm a voter there, I'm saying maybe just fill in the gap there. There's another five hundred million that you could probably put in the royal. The pushback against the royals is also interesting because they want to go to a downtown area. And the criticism there is that they go into this area. It's already it's called the Crossroads already a pretty thriving area. There's a lot of activity going on. The residents there will say, you're disrupting local businesses.
22:57You're going to drive rents higher. And housing prices have already been increasing in the Kansas City area. You're going to disrupt the local fabric. And this might have been unthinkable a few decades ago when we're like, oh, we would love to have a stadium come into our downtown and help revitalize it. But there does appear to be growing backlash because study after study after study shows that sports teams are not an economic or sports stadiums are not the huge benefit that their teams say they are. And after all is said and done, it's kind of a wash in terms of economic activity in the area.
23:29It's neither a net benefit nor a net loss. Right. We saw this again play out in Washington, D.C. Ted Leonsis, who owns the group that owns the Washington Capitals and the Wizards. They announced this big mixed use developmental project out in Alexandria, Virginia. It was$2.2 billion development. But then Mayor Muriel Bowser hurriedly put together this proposal that increased the funding that these stadiums would have to remain in D.C. So everywhere you look in different markets, in different leagues, you're seeing this pushback from taxpayers because you're right. It just hasn't panned out in the way that some of those economic forecasts, they paint this beautiful picture that it's going to spur all this economic activity.
24:08But it often doesn't, the math doesn't quite add up. I think if I'm a mayor or, you know, someone who wants to keep a team in the city, I would just dispense with the economic argument because you're not going to win at this point. And you just have to go appeal to the hearts and minds and say, we love the chiefs here. We want to bring the Royals to downtown. We need to keep the chiefs here. Like, that's why I'm asking you to support them, because it is a source of pride for us. You know, just be completely honest, because that's why it's like we want to market ourselves as a place with the chiefs.
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24:36Taylor Swift would never have come to Kansas City had the chiefs not been there. I mean, that's what I would say. That's probably why I wouldn't make a good politician, because I wouldn't lie. You had me convinced there. You invoke Taylor Swift and good things happen, for sure. Let's move on to our final story. Last week, you may have heard us discuss the massive New York fundraiser Joe Biden through, alongside Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, that raised$25 million. But while most people were struck by the star power of three presidents in the same room, some fashionistas couldn't help but notice something else.
25:10none of the present or former commander-in-chiefs were wearing neckties that of course led to some online discourse one tweet noting the lack of ties got 22 million views alone and some were adamant that it could mean only one thing the beginning of the end for the tie if our leaders of the free world aren't wearing it then who the heck is neil sales of ties have been dropping for years now Is this finally the death knell for men's neckwear, or is it too soon to write off a good Windsor knot? It is not the end of neckties. The death of neckties has been predicted for many years now. Go back to 2022 at the G7.
25:50Emmanuel Macron, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau didn't wear ties. There were no ties at the Oscars. Very few ties at the Oscars this year. Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper, Robert Downey Jr. all did not wear ties. And it's true that the tie market is less than it was pre-COVID. But I think just when you're experiencing a trough is when you're going to get the uptick again. Just because presidents are not wearing ties doesn't mean people don't want to wear ties. And now it might be seen as this counterculture movement where people can wear ties again and sort of rail against the establishment, which is kind of funny because neckties are seen as the establishment, the office, you know, the place of the CEO and the powerful person.
26:32but I don't think we should write it off because they've been written off for years and they've always come back. Right, they definitely still maintain a cultural relevancy in our culture. You find it in malls everywhere. You go into a mall, you'll find neckties still being sold. You find it in magazines, models are wearing them. Politicians do still wear them, but you are right that the new trend is co-opting the tie as this rebellious fashion statement because if you wear a tie that no politician would ever wear, maybe with a loud pattern or maybe it's a knit material, Then you're taking the establishment, making it your own, and it's become more of an Instagrammable thing.
27:06So I'm with you. I don't think the tie is dying anytime soon. Meanwhile, Trump just wears that big red tie all the time. But if you're wondering what the experts say about whether you should wear a tie or not, there's this menswear guy on Twitter who's a huge sort of commentator, and everyone kind of listens to him. He says there's nothing inherently wrong with wearing a tie. You just have to know what to wear it with. So don't wear it with the classic worsted suit that all of us wear, that dark suit. If you just wear that kind of suit, you probably should put on a tie because without it, it looks weird.
27:39But if you don't want to wear a tie, wear maybe looser garments, get a linen suit, something that looks better with a collar open. So I'm just dispensing some fashion advice, something I've never done ever before. But I guess the takeaway here, it's fine to not wear a tie or wear a tie. All that matters is the ensemble around it. Let's rock them tomorrow, Neil. I'm all in on the team. I'm also all in on team tie. I just think it looks better. Okay. We have to wrap it up there. Have an excellent Wednesday. Definitely ready for the rain to stop here in New York. As always, your feedback and support is what keeps the show going.
28:11So don't hesitate to send a note to morning brew daily at morning brew.com. Let's roll the credits. Emily Milliron is our executive producer. Raymond Liu is our producer. Olivia Graham is our associate producer. Yuchenua Ogu is our technical director. Bailey Menino is on audio. Hair and makeup thinks that presidents should wear ties. Devin Emery is our chief content officer, and our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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Episode 293: Neal and Toby chat about Tesla’s rough Q1 of 2024 after falling way below its expectations on deliveries. Then, the Jon Stewart-Apple break up heats up as he shares why they parted ways. Next, General Electric is also going through a break-up, except it’s with itself. Also, McKinsey is offering staff members to take some time off and well… never come back. Meanwhile, Kansas City sports fans love their teams but maybe not when it means higher taxes. Lastly, are neckties out of fashion?
00:00 - Intro
2:45 - Tesla’s rough Q1
7:00 - Jon Stewart v. Apple
11:00 - GE’s big break-up
14:25 - McKinsey pays to go away
18:15 - Sports drama in Kansas City
22:30 - Are neckties in or out?
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