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Podcast Notes: Motley Fool Money - Episode: Google’s Hot Start to 2026
Episode Summary In this episode of *Motley Fool Money*, host Travis Hoium and analysts Lou Whiteman and Rachel Warren discuss Google's recent advancements in AI technology, particularly with its partnership with Apple for Siri, their new shopping protocol, and recent earnings from Delta Airlines. The conversation emphasizes Google's resurgence in the tech landscape amid competition with OpenAI and the shifting dynamics in consumer spending.
Key Topics Discussed
Google's Partnership with Apple
- Siri's Enhancement: Apple has selected Google's Gemini technology to enhance Siri, moving away from a potential partnership with OpenAI.
- Reasons for Selection:
- Significant distribution potential (access to over a billion iPhones).
- Google's established infrastructure (custom TPU chips and extensive data centers).
- A historical relationship between Apple and Google, providing a degree of familiarity and reliability.
- Potential legal hurdles due to federal regulations on exclusive agreements.
Implications for OpenAI
- OpenAI's influence may be waning despite its previous hype.
- Current partnerships and innovations from OpenAI, such as a new browser, are not gaining significant traction.
- Concerns over OpenAI's strategy of targeting competitors and building disruptive technology without sufficient market dominance.
Google's New Shopping Protocol
- Overview of the Shopping Protocol:
- A new system introduced at the NRF conference to facilitate an improved shopping experience using agentic AI.
- Key features include:
- Direct communication between AI agents and merchant backend systems.
- Enhanced efficiency for merchants and smarter shopping tools for consumers.
- Agentic checkout capabilities using Google Pay.
- Virtual sales associates providing personalized shopping experiences.
Delta Airlines Earnings Report
- Delta reported earnings that beat expectations but exhibited some margin pressure due to external factors.
- K-shaped Economy Discussion:
- Delta's management highlighted a K-shaped economy where higher-income consumers continue to spend more, while lower-income consumers are showing signs of fatigue.
- Delta's revenue mix reflects a growing share from premium offerings compared to standard economy tickets.
- Analysts debated whether Delta's performance is indicative of broader economic trends or simply a result of the company's effective pricing strategies.
Key Takeaways
- Google's Position: Google is currently outpacing OpenAI in various domains, particularly through its partnership with Apple and improvements in its shopping offerings.
- Consumer Spending Trends: The Delta Airlines earnings report illustrates a split in consumer behavior, with higher-income travelers spending more on premium products while those with lower income are experiencing financial stress.
- AI and Commerce: Google's introduction of a Universal Commerce Protocol suggests a long-term strategic approach to integrating AI into everyday consumer interactions and shopping experiences.
Companies Discussed
- Technology:
- Alphabet (GOOGL)
- OpenAI
- Apple (AAPL)
- Travel:
- Delta Airlines (DAL)
- United Airlines (UAL)
- Meta Platforms (META)
Conclusion The episode presents a strong narrative of Google's resurgence in the tech sector through strategic partnerships and innovations while providing insights into consumer behavior shifts in the context of current economic conditions. The discussions encapsulate the competitive dynamics between major players in AI and the evolving landscape of consumer spending.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 3:01
Discussion on Google's partnership with Apple to improve Siri using Gemini.
“But it's actually Google that's going to be improving in some way Siri with Gemini.”
Disruption in AI and Search
3:01 to 5:12
Exploring the potential disruption AI might bring to search and shopping.
“the money has long been flowing the other direction.”
Google's New AI Shopping Features
5:12 to 10:47
Overview of Google's new agentic shopping features and their implications.
“It's not sexy, but it's slowly what seems to be winning.”
Impact on Meta and Future Trends
10:47 to 14:04
Analysis of how Google's new shopping features might affect Meta and future business trends.
“I mean, even my open AI account is actually a, I sign in with Google, which I always have always thought is really interesting.”
Google’s Competitive Edge and Future Outlook
14:04 to 14:52
Discussing Google's ongoing advantages and the stability of its partnerships.
“I don't think this really adds to Google's advantage.”
Delta Airlines Earnings Report Analysis
15:29 to 19:18
Analyzing Delta's earnings report and its implications for the economy.
“Banks and airlines are the first things that we're going to hear from.”
Consumer Behavior in Air Travel
19:19 to 21:34
Examining the split in consumer spending on travel and the premium market.
“Uh, is, is that what you're seeing is that maybe it's not about people traveling less, but they're just, they're just maximizing the amount of dollars that they can get out of each of these seats.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Google had a hot end to 2025 and is starting 2026 on fire. Motley Fool money starts now.
0:20welcome to motley full money i'm travis hoyam joined today by lou whiteman and rachel warren we got to start with google guys there's a lot going on with google but let's start with the apple deal apple has chosen its partner for updating siri you know there's thoughts that Maybe they would be able to do this internally. But OpenAI kind of had the inside track, if you will, because they announced that partnership, what, a year, a year and a half ago to kind of marry the two. But it's actually Google that's going to be improving in some way Siri with Gemini. Rachel, what is going on here? Is Google not only caught up to OpenAI, but is now passing them since Apple has chosen them as the partner here?
1:01I actually think this partnership makes a lot of sense when you dig into it a bit more, as opposed to what we've been talking about, which was maybe Apple and OpenAI partnering here. You've got to bear in mind why we've been looking for the next generation of Siri. And this has been true for a long time. I mean, internal testing for the so-called Siri 2.0 had showed a 33 % failure rate previously. So, Apple wanted and needed to seek outside help. You could maybe call this a setback for OpenAI, but honestly, I just think there's a lot of reasons why this was a really cohesive strategy to bring Google in on this.
1:36So from what we're seeing, Apple reportedly chose Alphabet's Gemini technology because it really provides, in their view, the most capable foundation for Apple's own models. I mean, there's a really obviously significant distribution advantage for Alphabet. They could potentially reach over a billion iPhones. It's worth noting that Apple and OpenAI still maintain a relationship for very specific chat GPT integrations with iOS. You know, OpenAI is still a primary partner for Microsoft. They're going to be just fine. Now, Apple had reportedly evaluated Anthropic as well when they were looking to bring on a partner to upgrade Siri.
2:13But again, I think the scale and extended relationship that they already have with Alphabet was really key here. I think it's worth noting the deal could face some legal hurdles. You know, there was a federal judge recently banned Alphabet from certain exclusive default agreements. So there might be some ways in which this partnership has to be structured really carefully. I think it's also important to underscore the fact that Alphabet or Google's infrastructure includes custom TPU chips, large data centers. This allows it to handle many iPhones at a price that startups like OpenAI would maybe struggle to match.
2:46So I think there's a lot of reasons why this makes sense. I mean, Google already pays Apple about $20 billion annually to be the default search engine. I think this is a positive for if you're a shareholder of either Apple or Alphabet. I think this is great news. Lou, the interesting thing here is exactly what Rachel touched on at the end there is that the money has long been flowing the other direction. So Google, the search engine is the default on iOS devices. That's really where the money is. It's also things like Safari, but iOS is really where they're getting that traffic acquisition cost.
3:19That's the$20 billion or so that flows to Apple every year. Now Apple's paying for help with Siri. Is this going to fundamentally be a difference in the business model? Because I think if we are going to a world where we're not using search, we're using Siri, maybe that ends up costing Apple money. But not on the same scale, at least. I mean, right now, Apple is still a net beneficiary with the two deals together, based on what we know. Whether that changes, we'll see. But yeah, Look, it's funny. Rachel listed out all the reasons. And I don't know. I'm not a tech guy. So maybe it's true. I always feel like that justification is just written after you make the choice.
4:03More than that, for the press release. Here's what I want to know. I really hope that OpenAI Johnny Ive device that they keep teasing is worth it. Are you going to have the thing behind your ear? That was the image that came out this week. Well, but here's the deal. Everything was fine between OpenAI and Apple, seemingly, until OpenAI goes and buddies up with Johnny Ive. And I couldn't help but notice the tone change there. I hope that was worth it, Sam. I think there's a lot of hubris here. OpenAI's two big moves are, we're going to defeat the Chrome browser. We're going to go in Alphabet and defeat the Chrome browser.
4:43And we are going to revolutionize the device and make you not want your iPhone anymore by spending billions for Johnny Ive. I hope it's worth it, guys. Because in a way, I think any of these models could have worked. I think Apple did go with what they know. And I think it might have something to do with the changing dynamics of OpenAI kind of just picking fights. And it's great to pick fights if you can win them. But good luck, Sam. We've been talking a lot about disruption and is there going to be disruption to search but is the better analogy just the tortoise and the hare i mean open ai announces sora that gets a ton of attention but now it's i think number 60 or something like that in the in the app store nobody's really using that they announce you know the browser like you mentioned lu that doesn't seem to be winning a whole lot of business against google and chrome and here you get Google just slowly but surely increasing their capabilities from an AI standpoint, building out infrastructure, improving their TPUs.
5:46It's not sexy, but it's slowly what seems to be winning. Is that the right way to think about it, Lou? From the beginning, it was worth noting who needed the press releases, right? You know, we get so caught up in the hype and the excitement. Open AI doesn't have the revenue that, you know, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, all these other companies have, they needed the press releases because they needed the hype. And it is easy as a consumer or an investor to get caught up with that and kind of not realize what the tortoise is doing. I do think, I mean, I don't know if it's a tortoise in the hair, because I don't think OpenAI is cooked.
6:24I don't think anything is decided. But I also don't think we were right when, you know, like, just like all the, the, the goo goo eyes about open AI were just as foolish as probably declaring them dead now, but they are just one company among many who are trying to sell the same product and they have structural disadvantages to their competitors. And it's, it's, you know, that that's just what it is for them. Speaking of there are developments in AI and shopping. We're going to get to that next. You're listening to Motley Fool Money. In January of 1915, Ernest Shackleton's ship, Endurance, became encased in the ice in the Weddell Sea.
7:05Through determination, grit, and savvy, Shackleton would lead his men through a brutal winter, then over hundreds of miles of Antarctic ice, followed by 800 miles across some of the roughest waters in the world. It is one of the most extraordinary and inspirational journeys in the history of exploration. Find this story and many others at the Explorers Podcast, available wherever you get your podcasts or at ExplorersPodcast.com. Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. The other big deal that was announced in the last week was Google came out with their answer to OpenAI's agentic shopping experience.
7:38I think we talked about this a couple of months ago when OpenAI announced shopping on ChatGPT. In theory, you could search for products. It would kind of do all the work in the background. And then you could actually check out within ChatGPT with Stripe Checkout. Google announced what seems very complicated, Rachel, but if you look at their releases, it kind of looks a little bit like a little bit of an improvement with a little AI stuck in in search. Is that right? And is that maybe the better answer than just doing all your shopping with an agent? I think that's fair. I think as we've been hearing these announcements about agentic AI and shopping rollout, we've had this idea that one day there's this AI agent that does the entire process on our behalf, searching for the product, handling checkout.
8:25There's that element that we're seeing, but I think the bottom line here is a lot of these rollouts, and I'm going to talk about what Alphabet just unveiled, are really designed to make merchants more efficient and to help customers shop smarter and better. So, Alphabet unveiled, I think, what is probably a very significant shift towards more agentic commerce at the National Retail Federation, or NRF, conference. And basically, this new system that they unveiled, it includes a protocol that allows different AI agents to communicate directly with a merchant's backend systems, like carts, inventory, and payment gateways.
9:03And it handles all of those really sticky elements, like real-time inventory checks, pricing, and checkout. And this is across some major platforms like Shopify, Etsy, Walmart, to name a few examples. This new system and infrastructure also includes something called agentic checkout. So basically, purchases can be completed within Google Search or the Gemini app. It uses your saved Google Pay and Google Wallet information to complete transactions. And then kind of the third key component there was this new business agent that they introduced. So, you've got retailers like Lowe's, for example, that have these virtual sales associates in the search results.
9:41And those agents can suggest products, loyalty rewards, they can handle returns or support. So, for example, what does this look like? You can tell Google a specific price that you're willing to pay for an item. And so, when the price hits your target, that agent can use Google Pay to buy it automatically from eligible merchants if you've given your prior consent. You could think about this as well for grocery shopping, right? So theoretically, the agent could identify ingredients from a photo of a handwritten receipt or recipe and add them to a digital grocery cart. I mean, the options are kind of endless.
10:15And that seemed like something that wasn't necessarily going to be within, a lot of what they showed was within the Google apps. That would maybe be more on the developer side. Right. I've seen the idea of like taking a picture of your fridge and being able to say, okay, do I? Come up with a meal for me. Honestly, I would love that. With three kids, I would be happy to not have to do the shopping and just know that everything that we need for dinner for the next couple of nights is going to be in the fridge. But we're not quite there yet. But it seems like this is at least their answer to OpenAI's agentic shopping.
10:46And it struck me that the two pieces that were interesting was that the identity piece was with Google, which we're very familiar with. I mean, even my open AI account is actually a, I sign in with Google, which I always have always thought is really interesting. And it's within sort of the products that we already know. So they have that distribution. They have billions of people who are using Google search. Also, you know, Gemini has, is gaining market share. So it seems like they're kind of leaning into those and baby stepping us to these agents rather than sort of tossing us into an agent world that we're not ready for.
11:21Yeah. And I think what's interesting about that is you have the ecosystem of Google search. It is just primed for these types of agentic AI rollouts. And I think, again, it's much more about helping merchants become more efficient, helping customers shop smarter. I mean, you think about how, for example, you know there's a specific item you want to buy for your house, but you really don't have time to go and scroll the internet and find the best price and all those things. And so, you could input these instructions about whatever the item is you want to buy, the price you want to pay, and you can go about your day and whatever it is that you need to get done.
11:55And that agentic AI can handle, you know, the price comparison, the shopping on that side, it could save customers a lot of time. I guess what we still don't know is, you know, how much your customer is going to use this or are these changes going to be so subtle over time that eventually it kind of becomes integrated into our search habits. Yeah. That's what ultimately is interesting, Lou, is this does seem like a little bit more incremental. My question is, does this impact a company like Meta more than anybody else? the interesting thing for Meta is they are the discovery mechanism for a lot of these companies.
12:27If you bought a pair of pants or a shirt from one of these new startups, they're using that direct-to-consumer advertising because they don't have the infrastructure that a Walmart, that a Target has. Does that now move to this agentic system, which is just sitting in Google? That's a huge opportunity for Google, but does it suck business away from Meta and its family of apps. Maybe, but there's a big thing you're missing in that equation. Meta has the eyeballs and you know, not that Google doesn't, but as long as people are on Meta's platforms and Meta can serve ads that are seen by a large number of people, I don't think that they're impacted.
13:05The question is, is that do like Rachel said, do habits shift, do patterns shift towards this style and we somehow, you know, ads are less effective. I want to just, I mean, look, I think this is great for Google, but the Universal Commerce Protocol, I think, is so interesting because they're basing it on the UPC, the Universal Product Code. That is the inspiration here from the 60s, that barcode on every product. Travis, what was the tech company behind that, and did they dominate the world of commerce because of it? Ooh, I don't know. It wasn't. Well, I mean, it was IBM, and they spun out of NCR.
13:47So, you know, kind of the cash register. But look, this is back office. This is trying to make sense of the chaos, which I think could help all of these companies develop. If it is a standard that is, I think it pushes the ball forward for everyone. I don't think this really adds to Google's advantage. I think Google's advantage is in all the ways we've already talked about it. The Chrome browser, their reach into now iPhones and Android phones, all of these things are working for it. I don't think setting up sort of the organizing the back office. I think they're doing the hard work that everyone's going to use.
14:23And I don't think it means gloom and doom for anyone. It just kind of puts the paint on the field so we can play, if that makes sense. Yeah, interesting. We'll see how this plays out. But it does seem like the winners of the past just just seem like they're going to be the winners of the future because the disruption angle just has not played out the way that you might think in some of these huge partnerships. Apple working with Google again, Google working with Walmart. This is kind of what we've seen for the last 20 years. When we come back, we're going to get an update on earnings from Delta.
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15:27Welcome back to Motley Fool Money. We are starting to get a little bit of earnings news. Banks and airlines are the first things that we're going to hear from. Lou, Delta reported earnings. I want to get your thoughts on what they reported and what it means for the economy overall. Yeah. Okay. This is very well discussed on what it means for the economy. Let's talk about it. They beat. Also, margins were a little light. A lot of that was the government shutdown, I think, because fuel expenses were down. I think people are mostly dismissive of the margin It's about 50 basis point loss. I think they'll make that up.
16:00The guidance was pretty strong, too. I mean, the stock kind of went nowhere, but it was a sell the news thing because the stock had been up going into it. The big thing everyone's talking about is, and actually Delta Management leaned into this, they said they are at the top of the K. This idea that the K-shaped economy where there's have and have-nots and the haves continue to spend, the have-nots haven't. We actually saw main cabin revenue fall 7%, but that was more than offset by non-main cabin revenue up 9%. Actually, in the quarter, that non-main cabin, everybody other than the just base fare, that revenue total was higher.
16:41There's a lot of people reading into this as far as what we can read about the economy. I personally would hesitate there. Delta tried to reinvent pricing. 15 years ago. And what they tried to do was figure out a way that back then, I mean, this is so old, Travis, they called it machine learning. That's how old it was. But just to kind of price per seat the way when you have a fixed inventory, you try and do, this shows me that it's working. I don't think this really tells us anything about the economy. What this tells us is Delta is very effective at maximizing per seat revenue to the point where less and less of it is just the generic ticket.
17:21And more and more of it is whether or not you want to sit together, you want a little extra leg room, all of these perks. That's what's being reflected. I think it's more of a story of what Delta is doing right than it is what's going on in the economy. I get that. I subscribe to the K-shaped thing. I just think people are over-reading the tea leaves when they attribute all of what Delta did to macro factors. So, I want to understand this a little bit better because, yeah, there was a 9 % increase in what they call premium products for tickets. Does that include both the higher price and the fact that, for example, I traveled a couple of months ago with my wife.
18:00If we wanted to sit together, we had to pay extra. Does that make us now premium customers? And now maybe instead of having, as a kid, you would think of first class. There was, I don't know, 20 seats on a plane that were first class. And then there were a hundred seats that were not first class. So your ticketing was 80-20, but now it seems like a larger percentage of the tickets are falling into premium, even if they're not the old school premium first class. It's comfort or whatever the multiple tiers are. We're not only having higher prices on those tickets, but also that there's more of those premium tickets.
18:39Right. That's it exactly. And I do think, look, to the bull case for this year, the upside is that main cabin. I think it could bounce back. But yeah, what we're seeing is just that baseline ticket is falling in terms of the total share of tickets. It's all of those things you're talking about. It's just pricing for what consumers want or what they're willing to pay for. That's a great thing for the airlines. You can get into whether or not it's a great thing for the consumer, but Delta and United are very, very good at this. And I think that's what you're, that's what's showing through more than it is, you know, some dramatic statement about the economy or where we're headed.
19:18Rachel, you're maybe our travel expert here on the Wednesday show. Uh, is, is that what you're seeing is that maybe it's not about people traveling less, but they're just, they're just maximizing the amount of dollars that they can get out of each of these seats. I think that's part of it, but I do think we are seeing a split in consumer behavior. I don't necessarily think I agree with Lou, you know, we shouldn't necessarily read the tea leaves through Delta's results, but I do think they reflect kind of the broader trends that we are seeing. Just generally speaking, high-income travelers are spending more freely on premium travel.
19:50Price-sensitive consumers are showing fatigue where that's concerned. And Delta has been investing in its premium cabins, in new aircraft. They've really signaled their focus on these higher margin offerings to drive future growth. And I think we see that bear out in their results as well. A lot of the consumer spending growth is driven by the wealthier households who are purchasing those higher ticket discretionary items. And of course, Delta is the first of the airlines to report. We've got throughout the rest of January, you've got United Airlines, American Airlines, JetBlue. It'll be really interesting to see.
20:24But Delta, again, they had record revenue year for their full year 2025. And that 7 % increase in premium revenue is really key as well. So I think if anything, we're seeing the results of the current macro environment bearing out in their financials. The good news is if it is macro, there's a lot of affluent people because if you look at the TSA numbers, they're up year over year. So I mean, it isn't that, I mean, if it was just premium. It's always a shockingly small number of people that actually fly though, when you look at. Well, right, right, Travis. But if it was just premium that was driving this, if it was just that the haves are flying and the have nots aren't, which is kind of the K-shaped story, there's a lot of haves because across the domestic industry, travel is up.
21:11Again, I hear the K-shaped stuff. I believe the K-shaped stuff. I just think that this is a poor... I don't think that's what we're seeing here. I think the knee jerk yesterday on that was a little bit overstated. So looking for signal and noise, this is maybe a little bit more on the noise. As always, people on the program may have interests in the stocks they talk about and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. All personal finance content follows The Motley Fool's editorial standards and is not approved by advertisers.
21:48Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. To see our full advertising disclosure, please check out our show notes. For Lou Whiteman, Rachel Warren, and Dan Boyd Behind the Glass, I'm Travis Olliam. Thanks for listening to Motley Fool Money. We'll see you here tomorrow.
From the publisher
When ChatGPT was released, the company most impacted was supposed to be Google. But over the past year Google has surpassed OpenAI’s models and Gemini is gaining market share. This week, the company also won a deal to power Apple’s Siri and announced a shopping protocol. It looks like 2026 may again be the year of Google.
Travis Hoium, Lou Whiteman, and Rachel Warren discuss:
- Google powering Siri
- Google’s shopping protocol
- Delta’s results and the K-shaped economy
Companies discussed: Apple (AAPL), Alphabet (GOOG, GOOGL), Delta (DAL), United (UAL), Meta Platforms (META).
Host: Travis Hoium
Guests: Lou Whiteman, Rachel Warren
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