In short
The episode discusses what’s hurting restaurant stocks this summer and reviews several surprising “beat or defeat” winners.
Guests
Rick Munarriz (host), Alicia Alfieri (analyst; father wanted a European river cruise; focuses on Viking), and Jason Hall (analyst; highlights TJX and valuation concerns).
Key claims
consumers are more price-aware, pressuring traffic and comps for chains like Chipotle (comps -4% YoY) and others; $5 meal deals are pulling demand toward value. McDonald’s comps grew 3.8% globally, helped by affordability ($5 meal, $2.99 snack wraps) but it’s cautious as lower-income visits declined. Examples: Kava -17% after weak comps; Wingstop/Sweetgreen/Chipotle negative comps. The “hot stocks” segment weighs Roblox (+117%), Palantir (+139%), and Celsius (+150%) against valuation and risks.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTJX Companies: A Retail Powerhouse
0:46 to 2:16
Discussion on TJX Companies as a resilient player in the discount retail sector.
“Yeah, so TJX Companies, it's definitely got my eye, a little bit of my heart, but none of my wallet yet because of valuation.”
Economic Uncertainty and Value Shopping
2:17 to 2:37
Exploration of consumer behavior as economic uncertainty influences shopping trends.
“Well, so I have a question for you, Jason, on TJX.”
Viking Holdings and River Cruises
2:38 to 4:38
Insights into Viking Holdings and its appeal to affluent consumers for river cruises.
“And I think what we'll see is what we've seen from it in the past.”
Baidu's Growth Challenges
4:39 to 5:27
Examination of Baidu's struggles and potential for innovation in a competitive market.
“leading search engine, is going through some growing pains.”
Baidu's Growth Challenges
5:28 to 6:55
Examination of Baidu's struggles and potential for innovation in a competitive market.
“I do think that either whether they go out on their own or they find ways to do it, Baidu has offices even in the U.S.”
Baidu's Growth Challenges
7:01 to 7:15
Examination of Baidu's struggles and potential for innovation in a competitive market.
“That's r-i-p-p-l-i-n-g dot a-i slash f-o-o-l.”
Challenges in the Restaurant Sector
7:16 to 10:40
Analysis of the struggles faced by restaurant stocks amid changing consumer preferences.
“Kava took a 17 % hit in a single trading day last week after posting disappointing comparable restaurant sales.”
McDonald's Pricing Strategies
10:41 to 11:21
Discussion on McDonald's pricing strategies and their impact on sales.
“That's one of the ways that long-term investors can juice their portfolios and really win over the long-term.”
Investing Insights on Hot Stocks
11:22 to 12:39
Engagement in a game assessing the future performance of trending stocks.
“So when we get back from the break, we'll have fun with some of this year's hottest stocks.”
Analyzing Palantir's Valuation
14:01 to 15:09
A discussion on Palantir's high valuation and potential market struggles.
“But if Roblox can solve this issue, I think it's actually a good candidate to beat.”
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Celsius Stock Performance Insights
15:10 to 16:04
Insights on Celsius's recent acquisition and market expectations.
“We're not even talking price to earnings or anything like that.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Rick Munarriz, indigestion for stocks. Interesting companies reporting earnings this week. Incredible gains this year from unlikely companies. Let's dive in to find out right now on Motley Fool Money.
0:20I'm Rick Munarriz, and today I'm joined by fellow analysts Alicia Alfiere and Jason Hall with a look at what's eating at restaurant stocks this summer. We'll also look at some of the more surprising companies that have more than doubled this year. But first, it's still earnings season. A lot of familiar names are stepping up with fresh financials this week. A lot of obscure ones, too, of course. I want to go around the room to see if there's a company that has your eye, if not your heart, reporting quarterly results this week. Let's start with you, Jason.
0:47Rick Munarriz:Yeah, so TJX Companies, it's definitely got my eye, a little bit of my heart, but none of my wallet yet because of valuation. But TJX Companies, it's a parent company of TJ Maxx, Marshalls, HomeGoods, other clothing and home furnishing retailers. reports Wednesday morning. And I'll be honest with you, Rick, I think besides Costco, TJX may be the best retailer in the U.S. It is exceptional at two really important things. The one that doesn't get enough credit from the average person or investor is how good of a buyer it is. It's like the release valve for excess inventory for manufacturers, other retailers and distributors.
1:18Rick Munarriz:It's really good at getting great deals on the cost side of buying that. But here's the thing, the actual hardest part is getting that merchandise in the right stores in the right markets to move it quickly and then turn it into more cash than it paid for it. It's exceptional if that part of its business model is the treasure hunt experience. They cater both to people that have plenty of extra disposable income that are looking for that great deal, but also just to regular people that are looking for value for name brand products at extremely low costs. And that combined expertise as a savvy buyer and extremely efficient retail operator results in great margins.
1:54Rick Munarriz:It keeps customers coming in across economic environments. If you look, last quarter, comps were up 3%. As customers are spending more money, you look at most of the competition in discount retail, you see the other thing. Comps are shrinking. People are coming in less and spending less. I'm really interested to see if TJX can continue operating so well in what's really a challenging environment for discount retail. Well, so I have a question for you, Jason, on TJX. So with the economic uncertainty looming, do you think we're going to see more value shoppers going to TJX to look to find these deals?
2:34Or do you think these value shoppers are going to be staying home?
2:37Rick Munarriz:I think it's going to do well. And I think what we'll see is what we've seen from it in the past. And that is people whose personal finance situation is still fine are going to continue to go there more instead of maybe shopping upstream. They're going to come downstream, whether they have to or not, they're going to choose to because of sentiment. And that's probably going to offset some of the other customers that are just truly having to pull back. And its strength as a buyer is going to be a really good situation for it, particularly if we see tariffs do weird things with inventory levels.
3:05Rick Munarriz:They're not going to mess around. They're going to take advantage of that opportunity. So I think even if maybe they don't grow as fast, they're definitely going to prove how resilient that their business model is. Alicia, what you got? Well, so this week, I'm excited to see what is going on with Viking Holdings. So it's a company that's close to my heart because my dad, who just turned 70, has wanted to do a European river cruise for a really long time. And so Viking is smaller than other cruise companies, but it's the top dog in the North American outbound river cruise market. It's got a strong brand that ranks highly among the affluent 55 and older crowd, which Viking believes has been mostly underserved in the cruise industry with the exception of them.
3:49And by the end of their first quarter, Viking already had 92 % of their 2025 capacity booked. So I'm excited to see what comes next for them. Yeah, I'm a fan of Viking too, Alicia. So probably like your dad, I've looked at these cruises. They are not cheap. River cruises are not your basically carnival, big chip with a lot of people and a lot of low prices. Are they susceptible to an economic downturn? That's a good question. I think because their focus is so much on this retiree community of 55 and older, granted it would be wonderful to retire at 55, but people that tend to be affluent and retired, I think they have less of a risk.
4:29But as with anything that's discretionary, they can potentially take a hit with economic uncertainty. Yeah, thanks. I'm going to go with Baidu. So BIDU, the company behind China's leading search engine, is going through some growing pains. Revenue has declined in half the last six years, and Baidu delivered double-digit top-line growth just one of those years. Expectations are low heading into this week's results. Analysts see a 3 % year-over-year decline in revenue on a sharp slide in profitability. It's not a good look, but Baidu has come through with double-digit percentage beats on the bottom line in back-to-back quarters.
5:01It's also been toiling away in AI, cloud computing, and autonomous driving long before those areas were cool. Those are bets that will pay off over time. In the meantime, you can buy a cash-rich Baidu for less than 10 times next year's targets. So, Baidu.
5:15Rick Munarriz:So, thinking about those kind of next bet things, Rick, do you think Baidu is one of the companies that's going to be able to continue to innovate even as the Chinese market continues to be challenged with access to the best chips for AI? Yeah, so obviously the whole AI revolution in China has this whole thing happening right now, caught in the tariff war. I do think that either whether they go out on their own or they find ways to do it, Baidu has offices even in the U.S. So they have places, they have Intel all over the world. It's not just purely Chinese company. I think they will figure it out.
5:47And right now it's just a very competitive environment, which is why so many companies are, Baidu's struggling because so many other companies are also struggling to stand out in this environment. So Baidu and TJX report on Wednesday morning. Viking disembarks on Tuesday morning. Companies keep earning. We keep learning. Coming up next, Hamburger Helper. What's going on with restaurant stocks? Hungry for more? Order up.
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7:24We saw Wingstop, Sweetgreen, and even Chipotle deliver negative comps. What's burning in the kitchen? Let's dig in. Alicia. Well, so it looks like the economy is taking a bite out of consumers' desire to dine out, or at the very least, it's making them a lot more price aware. So if we look at Chipotle, which is an old school rule breaker, in its last quarter, comparable sales fell 4 % year over year. And that's a big difference from last year when comparable sales grew 11 % year-over-year. And Chipotle talked about how much their traffic has been tracking along with consumer sentiment. And management believes that some consumers are making eating decisions based on price right now.
8:06They also mentioned some of their competitors have$5 meals. And they believe that's where a lot of the consumers are heading. So speaking of$5 meals, let's talk about McDonald's. unlike Chipotle and some other restaurant chains that saw same-store sales declines, McDonald's saw its global comparable sales grow 3.8%. And that's a big improvement from last year when the company's comparable sales fell 1%. And by the way, McDonald's saw sales growth in all of their world regions. And McDonald's knows that its affordability was a major driver for its performance and says that the$5 meal deal continues to be a hit and the company also realizes that the$2.99 price point, they sell snack wraps for that, looks to be attractive to consumers as well.
8:54But even with their performance this quarter, McDonald's is still cautious about upcoming quarters and the U.S. consumer. But even they commented that visits from lower income consumers who tend to eat at McDonald's more than other groups have declined. And the company believes that it'll be really important for them to re-engage with these customers. One of the things that they talked about is working with their U.S. franchisees to look at the core menu pricing. But they do have to be careful here. Too many cuts and McDonald's will be buying their revenue by potentially sacrificing profitability.
9:29Yeah. So just a couple of days ago, I spent$16 on a McDonaldland adult kids meal. It's basically this thing comes with like a grimace shake. It comes with a collectible, like a tin collectible with a little toy with a card game. So it seems like McDonald's is playing both the low end and the high end. Does that barbell pricing, does that sound like it's a good strategy for you or is that a problem? Well, I do think that it's smart to try to hit multiple sides of the consumer continuum, right, as opposed to really just targeting one group. I think that can help make their revenues less lumpy when we go into different parts of the economic cycle.
10:07All right. I'm loving it. So, Jason, your thoughts?
10:11Rick Munarriz:$16 when I was a kid, that'd feed a family of four McDonald's and everybody would get soft serve ice cream, right? It's remarkable how that's changed. I'll say this. I think the interesting thing to me, like the observation as an investor is it's across the sector, right? And it's a lot of like what we're seeing with specialty and discount retail too. It's a clear consumer trend that consumers are starting to pull back in some areas. And as an investor, honestly, that makes me a little bit more interested and less concerned about individual companies, because it means we're less likely to have a company that's struggling in a good market.
10:41Rick Munarriz:The market is down and it's weak. And I start looking more closely when negative sentiment like that is happening, especially if it drives stock prices down, because it could create some opportunities for investors to buy some really great quality businesses that have strong track records over the long term, and then just hold while the market corrects and we return back to a healthy market at some point in future quarters or even future years. That's one of the ways that long-term investors can juice their portfolios and really win over the long-term. Yeah. So basically the business models aren't broken.
11:15Just the consumer sentiment is what needs to temporarily come back in some capacity.
11:19Rick Munarriz:That's exactly what it looks like to me. Perfect. All right. So when we get back from the break, we'll have fun with some of this year's hottest stocks. Stay with us. We ordered a cake. As an investor, I'm buried in data and making sense of it all is hard. That's where Claude helps me every day. I regularly give Claude a company's financial statements going back a few years and ask it to flag anything that looks like an outlier, line items moving in a way that didn't match the trend around them. It surfaced a lot of things I probably have skimmed past before. Things like expenses growing faster than revenue, or margins quietly improving while the headline numbers look flat.
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12:57So don't overthink it. We're going to go over three stocks. The first one, Rubik or Roblox. It's up 117 % through Thursday's close. I moved lower on Friday. But right now, Jason, beat or defeat?
13:10Rick Munarriz:So I'm going to say defeat. Now, in the news right now, there's some things with Louisiana is suing Roblox over some concerns about things with child safety. We won't get into that. But I think looking beyond that, what I see with Roblox right now is a great business with some really good growth right now. but it just seems like that the valuation metrics don't necessarily support a continued rolling. 19 times sales, they've lost about$500 million over the trading 12 months and $500 million of that was stock-based compensation. So it's just going to be hard to continue that kind of run at this valuation.
13:42Rick Munarriz:I think we're more likely to sell some profit taking before the end of the year that maybe undermines some a little bit of that great results that we've had. Alicia? I think this one is tricky. I think the Louisiana Attorney General suing Roblox, alleging the platform doesn't do enough to protect minors. I think if that's true, that's a big problem. But if Roblox can solve this issue, I think it's actually a good candidate to beat. We've got really impressive metrics happening here. Average daily users up 41 % year over year. Hours of engagement up 58 % year over year. The bookings numbers are incredible.
14:18Yeah. Yeah. So let's look at Palantir up 139 % this year. Jason, start us off.
14:25Rick Munarriz:You sure you want me to start here? I've bought puts. I'm actually shorting Palantir via puts. They're very long term, like multiple years out. So I'm going to say that now. I'm making a multiple year bet that the stock is going to decline. Between now and the end of the year, I think that we could start to see some of that happen. Let me say this. I think it is an extraordinary business. But the valuation, I said, rule breakers is expensive. Palantir makes rule breakers look like a jalopy. It is incredibly expensive. And the expectations, I think it would become so dislodged from what the business can realistically do, an incredible business can do, that I think it's going to struggle.
15:04Rick Munarriz:And I think it's going to be defeated by the market. All right. Alicia? I agree with Jason here. Last quarter was impressive. Revenue's up 48%. Cash-generating business. Management-raised guidance. Wow. It's valuation. Price to sales above 100. Price to sales, people. Price to sales. Right. Price to sales. We're not even talking price to earnings or anything like that. Priced beyond perfection. Defeat. All right. Finally, let's close with former Rule Breakers Celsius up 150%. Alicia, I'll start with you. Yeah, so its acquisition of Alani News seems to be helping Celsius, and the top line really accelerated this last quarter, again, partially due to that acquisition.
15:47It has momentum, so I'm thinking it'll beat, but anyone who has been watching this stock over the last little bit knows it's been a roller coaster, and it could just as easily fall into that defeat category.
15:58Rick Munarriz:Even as much as the stock has come up, I think that the market still has really, really low expectations for the business. The Pepsi distribution deal was great until it wasn't, so that's a challenge. The core Celsius brands have been pretty flattish. The international market is really wide open. Alani New expands them and really gives them a lot of control over that cohort of the market where they're really dominant. I think of these three, this is the one that's most likely to beat, so I'm going to say I think it'll beat. All right, great. Alicia and Jason, thank you for making this Monday more magic and less manic.
16:32As always, people on the program may have interest in the stocks they talk about, and The Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for or against, so don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. All personal finance content follows Motley Fool editorial standards and is not approved by advertisers. Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. To see our full advertising disclosure, please check out our show notes. For Alicia Alfieri, Jason Hall, and the entire Motley Fool Money team, I'm Rick Nars. I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Motley Fool Money today.
From the publisher
Summer is heating up, but restaurant stocks are cooling down. Today on Motley Fool Money, Rick Munarriz, with analysts Alicia Alfiere and Jason Hall will dig into problems at your favorite chains. There’s also a look at some companies reporting earnings this week and it’s report card time for some of this year’s biggest gainers.They unpack:
Three companies worth watching are reporting earnings this week.
Sluggish comps at many leading restaurants.
A few unexpected stocks have more than doubled this year. Can they keep the upticks coming?
Companies discussed: CMG, CAVA, WING, SG, MCD, TJX, VIK, BIDU, CELH, RBLX, PLTR
Host: Rick Munarriz, Jason Hall, Alicia Alfiere
Producer: Anand Chokkavelu
Engineer: Dan Boyd, Natasha Hall
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