David Gandy reveals what he was like in labour

0:00Shout out to our sponsor Jet 2 Holidays, saving parents everywhere with free child place holidays. millions available for summer even in the school holidays that's a miracle in itself coming up do you say anything to your kids it's like shut up go to bed oh my god what's happening and then i was like be calm be calm and he was going the one and only david gandy what were you like when your partner was in labor oh i failed at that Den's machine I was like oh my god you weren't there for a chat in the bedroom were you David come on I don't want that bedroom door open hello Sam just going to go upstairs and bang you lovely to meet you I'm David

0:52Hannah how have you been I've been good how have you been alright actually I missed ballet pick up yesterday yesterday you forgot to pick your daughter up I got the wrong time and I don't know how I managed to do that because it's been the same time for the last however long never changed no but for whatever reason yesterday I thought well pickups at 5 30 but it's not it's 5 15 so I got there and no one was there panic and then I got a text from a mum saying I've just dropped your daughter off at your house because you weren't there but then you weren't at your house because you went my husband was there but yeah oh thank god yeah I know but you're just like oh come on how how how How did I, you know.

1:28And you think to yourself, three kids deep. I should know what I'm doing. I should know what I'm doing. But we don't. How about you? Annabelle was having a tea. She's two. And I put the TV on so people can judge me if they want to. She was watching Paw Patrol because she loves it. I was trying to tidy up and the house was a tip. And I was like, oh my God, I've been working all day. My middle child, Logan, was, I said, you've got to do your homework. I asked him about 18 times to go and get his homework book. he was chewing this pen that had like dinosaur prongs at the top of it um and then I was like right your dinner's ready served it up and I was carrying it into the living room and I looked over and Logan was just went you know and they can tell you're serious and I was like oh my god as I went over he like pushed his tongue forwards and blood just went everywhere down his white school shirt well that's bloody ruin then isn't it and I was like oh my and I was like Logan and I was like what's happened he's like you know when you look around and think nobody else is here so Annabelle hasn't just drop kicked him I know she's two and he's seven but she drop kicks him um and I was like what on earth this happened and basically he chewed he was chewing the sharp end of his pen and he fell on it oh my gosh I'm not joking no that's it split his lip oh he's got the most gorgeous juicy lips like he hasn't got slit lips like me he's got lips like his dad are really juicy halfway down his lip to halfway down his chin was open gosh and the my reaction as a mum to be a calm parent was like what the f*** has happened so I was like oh my god what's happened and then I was like be calm be calm and he was going and then he was like looking down there's blood everywhere and I grabbed him first thing I did was hug him yeah it was all in my hair everywhere just to try and calm him down and uh he yeah I I was like we need to go to A &E we need to go to a doctor to stitch it back together.

3:20Yeah, but the problem is he already has a scar from one side of his chin to the other where he was dancing in the toilet cubicle and he fell and he smashed his chin, split his chin open on the toilet seat at school. That was three and a half months ago now. And I felt so bad for him to get him to the doctor. They wouldn't glue it because it's... So anyway, he had all these strips to kind of knit it back together. I don't think that's a fail. I think that's a triumph considering all the that you had going on as well. And you can never predict one day to the other, what they're going to do. What fail have you got?

3:52Well, actually my mum came round. That's not a fail. But we started talking about the podcast and she was like, do you remember? Cause obviously she's got loads of parenting fails. And so we started talking about when I was a kid and I wanted to share this one today cause we still use it today. When we were kids, mum used to, you know, read us a story, tuck us in and, you know, say goodnight. And when she would turn the light switch off and as she was walking out the door, she would always say cobblers. And it wasn't until years later when you realize that cobblers actually means what a load of rubbish, that I said to her, mum, just a question.

4:35Why did you say cobblers when you were putting us to bed? She was like, what are you talking about? And I was like, you would say, you know, love you, cobblers. And she went, oh my God, I was saying God bless. And so for years, for our entire childhoods, we thought that our mum was going, love you. What a load of rubbish. She was just going, f*** you. And she's showing the doll. so now we will still say you know you know on the phone call all right then all right love you cobblers really yeah we'll still say it but you look back and you have these little things that you do with the kids and yeah somebody will probably talk about it in the future and i'll be like that's what's lovely about this podcast we're kind of like reminiscing i know it is like and it's also like therapy it is yeah and then it's like was that normal and if we give each other that look like did you not go through that phase though uh maybe it's actually my daughter only did this.

5:32I think when Annabelle's a bit older, she might do this. But if I sing in the car, she's like, mum, you cannot sing. Do not sing. Don't even think about it. So then I'll mime. I'm like. I swear half my emotional stability comes from having a holiday booked. Oh, same. Jet2 holidays make it simple. Low£60 per person deposit, pay monthly. And by summer, it feels like a gift from past you. Sunshine therapy already paid for. She's like, stop it. But do you remember when your own parents did that? My dad used to be like, Oh yeah. Hey, show the stars from every mountain. Hey. I'm like, dad, we stopped singing.

6:06Yeah, I do remember that. That is us now. And my mum used to harmonise as well in the car. So she'd be there like giving an extra harmony and I'd be like, shut up, stop harmonising. You're ruining the spice skills, mum. Although she used to be a singer. So, you know, she can actually hit those notes. But anyway. Do you say anything to your kids? It's like, do you have a little thing that you... Shut up, go to bed. I've had enough I'm done with you I've had enough that's it we've got a very exciting guest on today it's rather exciting rather dashing guest it's funny because all the women from the whole production team plus more have attended today there seems to be more women in the studio today than I've ever seen I wonder why that is what is that a coincidence we're getting giddy already we can't be like this.

6:58We are professionals Louise. I feel like I'm sweating already. Yeah, I know. We've put deodorant on like four times. We're like, I don't know why. It's really cold in here. It's freezing in here. We're still sweating. We're so excited to have him and it's such a privilege to welcome the one and only David Gandy. Woohoo! David Gandy. Can we just repeat that for anybody that's listening? We have got David Gandy on the podcast. And if you are... Ladies, drop what you're doing. Yeah, and if you are watching on YouTube he is in his teeny tiny white pants. He's not really. He's not really. We did ask though.

7:31We did ask. We did ask. We did ask. Anyway, David. When you actually said that, I went, am I? Yes. What pants am I wearing? How are you, David? I'm very well. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I know that you actually flew in from New York yesterday, quite jet lagged and. Yeah, I mean. Although you don't look it, literally. I know I do. I know you're lying. But there's a, yeah. I mean, I was kind of back to old school to once because I haven't been away for a while. Yeah. I've been doing this parenting. This parenting thing. Let's talk about... Back to my stomping ground in New York.

8:00Did it feel good? Yeah. This is what life used to be like. Yeah, exactly. And who does the organizing in your house? Like on a morning, getting the kids up, the breakfast, ready for school. Who is the person? It's completely so. I mean, I do the mornings. They're up with me. So I do the breakfast and the snack box. What's the age gap between your girls? Just under three years. And so how old are they now? Nearly seven and nearly four is the easiest way of saying it. I put everything out in the evening. I don't know whether in the morning. You're an organiser. I am an organiser. Is there anything wrong with you at all?

8:32If you had my wife here, then you'd be there. What would she say that you do that's really irritating as a parent? We actually, we were discussing, we were at a dinner party a few weeks ago with friends. And it was like, what, our friends were discussing, you do this really annoying thing. And then I said, what's annoying about me? And she went, you do this really annoying thing when you're happy. When you're happy, you really breathe. You do this humming thing, you go, hmm. I literally went, I'm sorry, I'm happy. I just find that annoying, oh my God. It's really annoying. I was like, oh, okay.

9:10Do you know that you're doing it? No. Oh. And do you do the school run? Depends, because Steph's a barrister, so she works. Our schedules, neither of us really know our schedules. as a barrister you will not know it on a on a weekly basis it literally goes oh I haven't got anything this week and then she's like no I'm in Canterbury tomorrow then I'm in somewhere else can you do the kids um I'm like yep well I'm cancelling oh I might have to cancel something or be late for something where were you in your career when you became a father in a good position I mean that there was like when me and Steph got together um yeah there was after a while there was a conversation like when are children yeah one of the reasons i i sort of said look i've haven't had a lot not i haven't had a life i have just been working solidly i didn't have holidays i didn't take time off i spent christmases alone because i was so exhausted sometimes i went i'm just doing christmas on my own um and i just said i just want two years of us to enjoy being together and how did you meet we met met through were my good friends.

10:16We knew each other kind of before. But yeah, weirdly, we only lived about a mile and a half away. It's so strange how that happens, isn't it? You meet someone, it's like, oh, you live down the road. Yeah. And it's just naturally, a natural meet. Yeah. Then we went for a, we arranged to go for a date, but Steph is terrible on directions, so she ended up in the wrong pub. Oh. And you thought she'd stood you up. Yeah. Lovely. Yeah, and then, so that was the kind of conversation. And I kind of knew, I was transitioning, all the companies and everything else from from being so mad and you're like 80 90 flights a year to transition into having the contracts to um starting my own thing to changing all the companies so i was more so i basically in london because i couldn't have had kids before that i was never here how many flights did you just stay there i used to about 90 a year wow all over the world yeah obviously that's crazy do you fly with your obviously you fly with your kids and I guess it's a completely different experience isn't it when you fly with kids and you realize oh my god I really miss just flying by myself.

11:17It was like a dream going to New York. It was just an absolute dream. I think I just sat there and didn't really put any moves on just sat there going. I slowly came back to being oh my god. Yeah this is what it was like before. So like if your daughters wanted to get into the fashion industry what would you would you say yes no whatever i'm often asked that there's nothing you know i actually was doing a speech last night and someone asked me the same question i said they can do whatever they want after 25 that's absolutely 25 um i mean i i would be i've definitely seen the um the difficulties of putting someone too young yeah yeah yeah i also said by the time my daughters i'm not sure the industry is it's definitely not the industry it was i was just going to say that because both of you have never felt so attractive sitting with you two.

12:07Oh yeah, I started modeling while I was 14 and I'm standing here like, got a face like a bag of spanners next to you two. But what is the industry like now compared to when you started for both of you? From a male and female perspective. Because he's more in it than I am now. No, it's, well, I think the world of influencers and the digital world has completely changed the modeling world. Right, agree. I definitely agree. It's just almost like chalk and cheese now. So it's about engagement, numbers and social media and... Followers and likes. That's a validation there, isn't it? So you would never, and I know, I want to talk about your well-wear because they're really, really beautiful.

12:52They're really, really well-made. And my husband's obsessed with them. And pants. We have a pair of the well-wear pants. Very soft. Very soft. And if you're, you know, if you're on YouTube, you'll be able to see this. Yeah. And don't forget to obviously subscribe if you're on YouTube right now watching. I like that. I like that. It's just very kind of subtle. We don't have big brand on everything. There you go, David. You can change just behind there. Just want to strip off this, David. That's great. How does, so you're obviously a very busy entrepreneur. How do you juggle that with parenting?

13:28Just juggling. Just juggling. when it's just like, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. Constantly. David, constantly. I love this. He's normal. It's so true. It's like, yeah. It never ends. That's my time to just take myself off. Just for like. Yeah. Where would you go to take yourself off? I can't find anywhere now because even on the toilet, my children have now worked out how to unlock the door. Oh, they're clever. I went for you and it was on my phone. But this is just ridiculous. Like, I'm looking after the kids and they're like, daddy, daddy. I'm just on the loo. We'll be out in five minutes.

14:00And I can hear it. And I can see the lock. It goes. She got it to my daughter. Matilda got her 10 pp's and unlocked her. And there are the two of them there going, we want to be in here with you. I was like, what? I don't even want to be in here with me. Why don't you want to be here? And then the dog who doesn't want to be alone turns up as well. So now, like, he's like juggling toilet rolls. Matilda's washing hands. And we've, like, our downstairs loo isn't, you know, he's like the smallest room in the house. And there's just all of us in there. I'm like, I literally just took a picture, but I sent it to one of the dads of each of my friend and I was like, I can't even get five minutes.

14:32Sometimes that is about our only 20 minutes on our own. It's just on the loo. I've always said in a home, what should you have? And I was like, a man needs a sh**ter that no one else is allowed in. You just sit there and go. Do you have any parenting fails that you can share? I mean, probably too many to talk about and their little things. What were you like when your partner was in labor? Oh, I failed at that. I think failed in a, we still argue about what happened. Because I kind of turned into George Clooney from ER. I suddenly thought, I'm delivering this baby. I was fascinated by the whole process.

15:13I was down the business end. The midwife had to ask me if she could have her stool back and whether I could get out of the way. Oh my God, I love that. So I was there for that. Matilda was difficult. He went on for it. Poor Steph. I always say it's like watching something attack your partner that you love so much and you can't do anything about it apart from a TENS machine. Yeah, robbing backs. Or do what my husband did and just go for a coffee. My husband went to the cheese counter for an hour. I'm not kidding. My husband was so worried that we were going to get a parking ticket. It was like, I've only put four hours on the car.

15:50And at that point I was like, why the f*** did you put four hours on? I was there for four days. Jesus Christ. It sounds like you were very much involved. I love that. So you were so at the business end. That's impressive. Also, I've got film. I feel like Matilda crowned her head as out like this. Wow. You have to take a picture of that. If my husband tried to take a picture of my ass when my baby was hanging out with human. It wasn't, there's nothing at that point. There's nothing sexual or anything about it. It's just this miracle. And I was just fascinated by the whole thing. Because it is like, you can't see anything.

16:24It's a baby's head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's fascinating. And Tabs was lazy. Tabs kind of shot out the second time. It was a lot quicker. But I couldn't leave. Steph never, she didn't want me to leave with the Tilda because it was, and I still remember, so I had like the TENS machine sort of going and then music and, you know, Steph jokes, she was on sort of like gas and air and she's like bouncing on the ball. And then I think the TENS machine sort of went off for like three seconds and she kind of had the gas and air. It kind of changes your voice and she kind of just went, DENZ MACHINE. I was like, oh, God.

17:01It was like a possessed woman. Did you try any gas in air? Yeah, of course. It's good stuff, right? It's really good. They kind of said, go and have a couple of hours sleep. And then Steph needed me. And the midwife had to go back to Steph and go, I can't wake him up. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Literally can't wake him up. And this midwife sort of woke, you know, sort of. But I would just been up, you know, we'd been up for ages. And then I woke up and I went back in. And I still remember it was like that evening. And I thought I was so out of my depth because I'd never really been around babies or children.

17:35I love children. But that baby thing, I just felt like this cumbersome monster. And I'm like holding this little thing. I'm like, my God. And Matilda sort of, you know, we went to sleep and Matilda's in the cot between us. I'm on the camp bed and Steph's fast asleep. And Matilda sort of turned to me and sort of smiled. It wasn't a smile because they can't smile. But apparently they can. Apparently they can. Like I know people say, oh, it's wind or they can't smile. But apparently babies can smile as young as that. So it was a smile. And she had like four head of hair, which all fell off. So she was very hairy.

18:13But very much a connection I've noticed with. So my two sons, like when they were born, my husband held them. And for a while, while I was getting like stitched up for about three days. But then with my daughter, she held, my husband held my daughter for, it seemed like ages. And they were like staring at each other the whole time. And it was a real connection. And I could see it and they have such a bond. And I was thinking it must be like a dad's daughter thing. You talk about the, you know, the skin contact. So I just took her out and then she slept on my chest like all night. I bet that was the most magical feeling.

18:46All right, kid, I have no idea what I'm doing, but you're let's attempt this and she welcome to the parenting yeah I don't think anyone knows what they're doing no parenting failed no the one thing I got wrong first of all now I've never now obviously I know women pee I know how men pee but I've never actually quite realised or how the women pee situation works you sit on a toilet you hear a noise that thing never now you have to sometimes do an outside wee with your children right there's no toilet so I've said daddy I need a wee I said I've got to I thought you'd go to a wee before wee. And this was when they were.

19:18I was like, okay. This is when they're party training. So I called the wife. I was like, there's no reason we have to do an outside wee. I was like, okay. How's that work?

19:32Men's, you know, you aim and you shoot and we often get it wrong, but it's a very easy thing to, you know. A lot of stuff going down there with the women. So I'm like, okay. So I've kind of like, so I've put her pants down and there's, you know, sort of as far as I can. and I've got her kind of like leg spread and I've got my leg spread and it just went everywhere. It was in my shoes, it was down her, in her, and I was like a sprinkler. It was just like everywhere. It came away and we just sort of came home and said, what happened here? I was like, well, that's the beauty. We kind of, that's like.

20:04And where were you at this point? We were in the middle of the park. So of course then we had to go home because I'm covered in pee. Well, there's David Gandhi covered in pee, so are they? Yeah, yeah. I probably, you know, I probably forgot, didn't have a change of clothes. Yeah, so that was the hard way of learning. Now I'm like, you do it with one hand. But there is a - Holding it while talking about someone else. No, but there is a way I do it where you just literally just like pick them up and they're almost like this. And then they just - I'm actually nervous because I'm about to start potty training my little girl who's two, just turned two.

20:36And I actually haven't considered this until you've just said it now because I've got two boys and they just weigh everywhere. I think I was a lot easier to potty train. But just to, you obviously have to hold the, yeah. When you're on, I haven't considered this. You can hold the legs and then you can get a good, you then get a good check. As a skill. Yeah, now I'm like. Have you ever tried the, this is going off piece, but there's something called a she-wee or something. And it's, you can, you, like I take it to festivals and you can literally just put on this plastic thing and you could pee standing up like a man.

21:03It is absolutely brilliant. And it's just a long tube. It's so freeing to be able to stand up and wee. You don't know how lucky you guys are. Yeah. It's amazing. I never really thought about that once. How lucky we are just to pee anywhere. Just to pee anywhere. Next festival, keep away from Louise. She'll **** all over your feet. I mean, I guess, are you out of the tantrum phase? Pretty much, would you say? I mean... I think Matilda really hadn't. Tabs had more tantrums. How do you deal with tantrums? Are you quite... Are you gentle parenting or are you just like... Oh, no. I wasn't like... My mum and dad weren't particularly that strict, but I think you set the boundaries for everything.

21:38I think you're... You do... You know, if you don't nip things in the bud at first it just prolongs it and produce you know like problems um like going going farther on so my kid and and i'm very like sort of proud to say sometimes when we you know i've been to meetings and whilst we've been away on i take my kids away with us and then i've got to just come away for you on the business lunch or it's kind of a meeting and people have gone just gotta say david like your kids have been impeccable and i thought they weren't taught but you know i'm like I teach them like, you're not having iPads first of all, you have a conversation around at the end of the table.

22:14And I take coloring stuff and always make sure they're entertained so they're not bored. But they're just like absolutely impeccable. And then it's very polite. It's like everything I've always gone around and said, please, thank you. You don't talk to someone like that. You don't ask someone like that. Go and get it yourself. Go and do this. And you were like a teeth gritter. You know where it's like, say thank you, please, thank you. I like look at my kids and do that if they forget their manners. I got to a point with my mum and dad where they just needed to give me a look. Yeah. The disappointing look.

22:43Oh, I love the look. You just give the look. And now I kind of just like... Is your look slightly blue steel though? Well, it seems to work. Matilda will sort of go like, she'll do something and go, like, look at me. And I'm like, well, sometimes I'll let it go and sometimes I'll let it. My mum's best threat to me that used to shut me up really quickly. And she was like, just get close to her. I'm going to come and take your pants down in front of everyone and smack your bum. Now, as a kid, you go, and it's not like the smacking thing you're just like my mum never smacked me but it was the threat of my bum being pulled out in front of everyone but I don't accept tantrums much or you have to have them around again well we all have them as adults don't we we do I'm having lots of tantrums at the moment it's my perimenopausal phase yeah the dads have had that discussion at the school oh really?

23:32yeah your wife she you're really? Dads, talk about it. Just get the patch. Oh, God. Oh, God. I have actually got the patch and it is brilliant. And then one dad will come and go, they're very horny on the patch. And then you have this whole discussion through the dads. So all the dads are buying the patches. Like, what, this is a horny patch. Yeah. Get this one. Steph, come in. Yeah, quick. Close your eyes. I'm patting you down. But it's a great discussion. That discussion down the pub or just to have a bit of support and not think you're going, slightly mad as well sometimes like it's there's a lot of when your babies are born they no one ever tells um the husband or explains about the hormones like not your obviously not yours but your wife's hormones all over the place they are before they are after no one explains this it saves so many arguments if somebody did sort of like anyone just to explain after that just you are probably going to be wrong about everything yeah for the next year but do you like doing that just put up with it you literally just go okay darling and you do sort of see each other but no one ever explains this yeah about it and it's probably quite important you could almost do with a patch that gives you the like the hormones I mean and experience it and go I get you now yeah like I get why yeah nothing is right and it is if you if you could give birth would you do it like would you would you take on the pain i think as a i think i think that's a firm no no no no no as a job i think as a father and a partner your my job in life is to protect those three girls from every element and that includes every bit of pain so if i could go through something that stuff didn't have to i would take it like you know when your kid's ill and you just go, I wish I would do and I wish I could take this from you.

25:29Oh, I'll deal with it. Yeah. But you can't. So that's my, because you know the nature nurture thing of why, do you ever notice that when your child was, when they were probably a bit younger, they were crying, your partner didn't wake up. You wake up, women wake up like this. Now men, it's on the other hand, I mean, Stephanie, do you not hear me till I was like, no, sorry, baby, I was asleep. but if there was a rustle of a random leaf against the window I am up cricket bat outside you're protecting your little tribe well once we had when we were doing our house up and Bradley my firstborn was like nearly one I woke up Bradley wasn't crying but I heard somebody trying to get in the doors downstairs and I was like right but I was still breastfeeding and I had a gray dressing gown at drain nightdress on like wet oh lovely hair everywhere makeup down my face because I hadn't done any self-care for about 10 months so I picked up a crowbar put the lights on and I ran at these doors and they had like a crowbar in towards the inside of the house so I was like and literally I could identify these two boys I've never seen anybody as petrified in my life as I'm running up to them with these wet patches on this nightdress like because I thought oh my God they're going to try and get my kids and then I turn around and my husband was stood at Bradley's bedroom door like I was like sorry Andy what's happening here like I was about to attack these people with a crowbar and they obviously ran away because they were so scared of how I looked but it was that like instinct where I was like no yeah the instinct I am going to get them and nobody ever went to that house ever again that bungalow nobody ever tried to break in again well good what are you going to be like when your daughters get a boy grand?

27:20Oh we all had that discussion with that that's quite you see i was i was very good with parents i was the way i went home and i was like hello mr mendoras mrs mendoras how are you good good to meet you and everything else i was the the one who was very respectful very charming yeah but i knew really what was you know going go on you weren't there for a chat in the bedroom i don't want that bedroom Hello, sir. I'm just going to go upstairs and bang you, daughter. Lovely to meet you. I'm David. You know, we all know what's going to happen upstairs. So nice to meet you this way, isn't it? Is she ready for me, is she?

27:58Hold the coat, sir. No, I'm sorry. I've always discussed, if there is, you know. You're trying hard not to smile here because we're actually talking about your daughter. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what happened. So if a guy turns up at my door and goes, hello, Mr. Cannon, you're like, listen, kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What were you saying, though? I wrote the book on this. So don't, but no, I think hopefully you bring your children up to that point to make educating good decisions and pick them and going to pick the right person, let's be honest. But while you don't like them. There is going to be the guy that I, but Steph says her dad was very polite and very nice to all of them.

28:40And she, you know, she tells me about some of her boys and I talked to her dad now and And he went, a bloody idiot. Got rid of him. And presumably he likes you. I hope so. Yeah. You might never know. You might never know. No, we're going to be very well. It was a very different time. My dad had his seat in the lounge. He didn't sit in the seat. If you're in the seat, my dad would just have to stand by you. And you moved over. That was dad's seat. you watched what mum and dad wanted on the television. Yeah. You're sitting there watching like Newsnight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like seven. I was like, oh, terrible what's going on in Northern Ireland, dad, isn't it?