From Diversity to Fatherhood: Jordan Banjo on the Hardest Parts of Being a Dad | No Parental Guidance

19:04No Parental Guidance Hosts:For the first three or four months, this sounds awful. I was like, I actively don't even want to be around him. Like, I felt so guilty because I thought, like, he'd be born. I'd lift him up like he was flipping Lion King. I would hold him up to the sun and I'd have this, like, automatic connection. I was like, the immediate thing I felt was responsibility. That's what I felt. But this instant sparkle in my eye, which I looked at my wife and she had. Like, she was, like, just in love immediately. And I remember holding him thinking, nothing's clicking. Like, I don't know what to do. How am I holding him?

19:32No Parental Guidance Hosts:How am I doing this? I remember when I changed, you know, when they had that first poo and it's, like, trying to cling tar out of a carpet. Yeah, yeah. I was there like panicking. I mean, he was in that little end cot at the end of the bed. My wife sort of.

19:43Jordan Banjo:And it's like, how do you change it? You know, when you see their balls and they're winking, you're like, am I hurting them? Like,

19:49No Parental Guidance Hosts:man, the panic was real. It's worse with a girl,

19:50Jordan Banjo:isn't it? Because you had to be really intricate with a girl. Which again,

19:53No Parental Guidance Hosts:when my daughter was born a year later, which is, this is the funny part because by this point, I then knew about his reflux. Me and him, he's a year old. We've started now playing. There's that rough and tumble. Which I think is when a dad really comes into their own. Do you know what I mean? We've sort of got that bond. When my daughter was born, if you look at every single picture, I mean, I guarantee it, I'm like, please don't. He's going to be sat in a counselling session. Look how happy he was when she was unbeaming, like ear to ear. And it's purely down to, oh, I know what to expect. Which is the way he can't.

20:26No Parental Guidance Hosts:It's just when he was first born, I honestly thought, this kid's not going to survive two weeks. I'm going to mess it up. I'm not going to do something right. And how do I help my wife? How do I do this? How do I do that? I really, really thought this isn't going to go well. You might be one of those people where it just clicks, and I won't lie, the rest of us hate you. It might just click and everything's perfect.

20:43Jordan Banjo:It's like what, your baby sleeps through, does it? Oh, brilliant.

20:46No Parental Guidance Hosts:But if you're like 99 % of us, there's going to be a dynamic shift in your relationship. It's going to be a weird thing to get used to, and it's not going to be easy. It just is what it is. You know what I mean?

20:54Jordan Banjo:It's not easy at all, but we do go on and have more children. Yeah, and it is the best thing. It is. But I wanted to ask, because you've been quite open about having a vasectomy. Yes. Can we talk about this?

21:04No Parental Guidance Hosts:Please do, man.

21:04Jordan Banjo:So obviously that was your decision. You're happy to do that? So I'm very happy not.

21:12No Parental Guidance Hosts:So what happened was after Cass was born, I remember when he was about eight weeks old and we're in the thick of, I can't pick him up. Probably like three months old, I can't pick him up. I remember thinking, I'm going to get a vasectomy. And she said to them, I was like, one's enough for me. And she was like, no, we found out about the whole reflux thing. this and that i was like oh this can actually because i really thought this is what having a baby was yeah just that way and that's all and i would argue listen and it's only since i started being around way more when i was little that i would say yeah like a mother's patience and i know there's a lot of stay-at-home dads as well but a stay-at-home parents patients whoever's like the primary carer yeah the level of like understanding patience consists like that you have to have an adaptability is just flipping insane like hats off because it is i love you for saying that no it's the truth no no it's mental so you decided to get your cut off so we had our second so cas was uh six months old when we found out that nae was pregnant

22:18Jordan Banjo:and i remember so you're still having sex with all of the reflux yeah still happening wow i mean

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24:11No Parental Guidance Hosts:I'm going to have a newborn and a one-year-old. What am I going to do? She was petrified.

24:16Jordan Banjo:Yeah.

24:16No Parental Guidance Hosts:Completely understandable. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I don't know either. So after Mimi was born, I said, all right, I've had one boy, one girl. Things are perfect. I'm getting a facetomy.

24:30Jordan Banjo:So she never suggested it to you? It wasn't her.

24:32No Parental Guidance Hosts:No, no, no. It wasn't nay. It wasn't nay. Not at all. I said, I want to get a facetomy. She was like, I don't think you should because you never know. You're still so young. Because at the time Mimi was born, I was like 25, 26. She was like, you're still so young. I really think that you should think about it. I was like, no, I'm getting it. Booked it all in. and it was booked for like april 17th 2020 oh no lockdown here so they cancelled every person yeah they cancelled everything couldn't go in right so i was like okay cancelled i'll reschedule it we're being we're being as careful as you kind of that means you're just pulling out going whoopsie there you go there you go it will be fine with the tactic don't worry about it don't worry it'll be fine and then on our on our honeymoon we got married august 2022 and on our

25:17Jordan Banjo:honeymoon you had a great time didn't you well do you know what i wish it would have been it's

25:22No Parental Guidance Hosts:hilarious to think that she was pregnant at our wedding and we didn't know oh really and at the wedding she was like i feel a bit weird like i'm not really gonna she had like one glass of champagne was like i'm not really gonna drink i feel a bit weird i feel a bit sicker again i'm telling you that our mum's instinct even yeah yeah even if she didn't know that yeah she was just i feel a bit her body was telling her something yeah so we're in uh we stopped over at doha airport and i remember it i was in the queue for kfc she went i'm gonna go to the toilet i i am late i've checked my app i'm late i'm gonna do a test i went all right she went i'll do one banter from across the terminal she's walked out the toilet i saw her face and i went oh my god i'm straight out of the queue i lost my appetite i was like i've lost my appetite she walked over sat down with me and she went yes that's positive.

26:08No Parental Guidance Hosts:And then before Trey was born, Trey was due in April, in February, I want to get my vasectomy. I was like, I'm not even, and everyone's like, do you not want to wait till he's born? I was like, nope, trust me, he's going to be absolutely fine. And if I don't, she'll end up having triplets or something.

26:20Jordan Banjo:Because what is exactly with a vasectomy, like cut your tubes?

26:24No Parental Guidance Hosts:Do you know what? What happens? Give us the details. I'm going to break it down for you.

26:28Jordan Banjo:I'm actually really excited about this because I don't know. Let's go. Right, strap in.

26:31No Parental Guidance Hosts:Again, once again, I find this weird. I get being nervous about it, But talking about it out loud, I don't think it's that big of a deal. But anyway, I decided to go with it. Ironically enough, the doctor who did it was called Dr. Acorn. What? Dr. Acorn, which is brilliant. Love that. Booked the date, turned up. Now, this is where things go a little bit wrong. I insist on the fact that this was the nurse's fault because she wasn't very clear. I'm G-ing myself up because I'm nervous. So I've walked in and she's gone, right, if you just want to take your stuff off. Kicked my shoes off. Bang. I just was like straight in, pulled my trousers down.

27:04No Parental Guidance Hosts:The horror on her face when she said, I meant your jacket. Oh, no. So then I had to do that awkward thing where my knees are touching and I'm trying to pull them back up. Oh, my gosh. Put my shoes back on and take off my jacket and woolly hat. And then I go and sit down. So that was the first awful part.

27:21Jordan Banjo:I mean, she should have made that quite clear.

27:23No Parental Guidance Hosts:Very clear because you don't have to take everything off. Then she said, okay.

27:26Jordan Banjo:Especially when you're at the reception.

27:28No Parental Guidance Hosts:Then she goes, right. So we've done the reception bit. We go to the nurse office. She goes, right, let's go through to where the doctor is. I said, wicked. We go through. I'm now just in my tracksuit and no shoes or anything. And Dr. Acorn's in there. She's in there. And they're like, oh, are you okay? Well, now she's laughing. Now you can get undressed. I said, okay, wicked. And she goes, lay down on the table. So I lay down on the table. I'm laying there like that, looking up at the ceiling. And then she comes over and goes, right, so I'm going to have to just tape it down so it's out the way.

27:55Guys, I promise you now, my penis had shriveled so much.

27:59No Parental Guidance Hosts:There was nothing to tape. She couldn't tape it up to my stomach. so I watched her very awkwardly just place a piece of tape on the top of it like she just went like that just this nub that was sticking out she just placed a piece of tape over it that's why Dr. A concave oh my god I guess it's better that way

28:15Jordan Banjo:than getting a hard on the concave which is also awkward yeah either way I mean it's awkward either way it would have been brilliant just to sit

28:21No Parental Guidance Hosts:bang in the middle but no he said my penis went alright mate I'm off a guy sitting just like this nub it was like a nose and they just put a bit of tape over it and he come over and he went okay and even the okay sounded disappointing I'm six foot five I'm a big guy it looks even smaller in that scenario and then literally he he started they do the little injections to numb it but I promise you now the actual procedure was it must have been a maximum I promise of about two minutes

28:49Jordan Banjo:no

28:50No Parental Guidance Hosts:literally they make a little incision they lift the tube out

28:53Jordan Banjo:and you can't feel it

28:54No Parental Guidance Hosts:you can feel like pulling yeah but like you're numb but you're numb the only thing that was gross is you hear the cut and obviously it's like a tube right And then they singe either end. And then that's it. Like the cut is so tiny. And then literally I was there two minutes. I sat up. I was like, okay. That's it? That's it. Oh my God, that's quicker than getting the coil. Mate, the actual procedure is nothing. It's the days after that's the issue because everything swells.

29:21Jordan Banjo:Okay.

29:21No Parental Guidance Hosts:Yeah. So when I woke up, then it's, because I went to bed, I was like, I feel all right. Like, yeah, it feels like it's been like maneuvered a bit and stuff. But I'm fine. like honestly this is because i took i was i'm taking the next day off of kiss i'm not going into radio just in case i'm going to bed that night thinking do i just go like what's the point like i feel fine i thought no just in case guys i woke up in the middle of the night because i rolled over i rolled and then my scrotum came about five seconds after like it was so it swelled up so much were you quite pleased about that i wish i could have been i wish i could have been it was literally like holding you know i mean like you feel a balloon to the point where you know that the slightest bit of pressure is going to pop.

30:01No Parental Guidance Hosts:That's how it felt. It was so uncomfortable. But after a couple of days. And is that normal? Yeah, the swelling is normal. I guess some people swell more than others. But that was it. After a couple of days, swelling went down. Fine.

30:16Jordan Banjo:So that means then that your sticky tummy worms, you just don't have the swimmers.

30:21No Parental Guidance Hosts:That's it. Yeah. So you're still thingy. There's still juice. You're still bang. That's what everyone would call it. I won't lie. This is one thing that happened. And I've never said this publicly before out loud. The first ever time I thingied again. Yeah. It was like. Spider-Man. It was like Spider-Man. Blood red. It was like blood. Was it? Yeah. And is that normal? I don't know. It hasn't happened since, but it's the very first time. It scared the life out of me. I was like. Wow. Your wife's like that.

30:49Jordan Banjo:Oh my God. It's like Halloween. First time I Spider-Man again.

30:54No Parental Guidance Hosts:It was, it was, there was like, it was, it was basically. It looked like pure blood, which was a bit scary. And then the time after that, it was fine. Yeah, normal.

31:01Jordan Banjo:Wow. That's it. And you could have it reversed if you wanted.

31:04No Parental Guidance Hosts:Yeah, I don't think I ever will. If one wanted to do it. If one wanted, yeah. I don't think, I think me and my wife, sometimes, even though we're in the toddler stage, I look at Trey, like he's so young still. And I look at my oldest and I'm like, gosh, how have you gone from that to that? I remember you being that and that feels literally like. I know. I'm like, why does it go so quick? And sometimes in them moments, like we were moving stuff out and when you lower the cot down and you take the sidebars off and then I've got the cot bed, I'm like, oh, we're never going to have that again. Like that kind of, those little things kind of hurt.

31:39No Parental Guidance Hosts:And you get out of the tiny little onesies. And one of the other boys in diversity, he's just had a little boy as well, which is lovely. He's only a couple of months old. And I gave loads of stuff to him. and we had like a double pram and all this other stuff. And as I was, I was like, wow, like this is, it's cool because it's clearing a lot of space, but I will never need any of this stuff again. And that kind of, I could see my wife feeling a bit emotional. I won't lie, the tour and kids situation's difficult, especially, I think it's harder as they get older.

32:09Jordan Banjo:How are you managing that around kids? Tell us all that.

32:11No Parental Guidance Hosts:I think you're in this mid gap where I think once they, you can tell me I'm wrong here. Once they hit that teenage sort of gap, if I'm away, I can, the communication can be a bit better. It is a lot easier because they've got,

32:22Jordan Banjo:I can text my son he's got a phone sorry I missed you this morning like this morning I didn't see him this morning text him have a great day thanks mum love you bye you've got that connection there a bit more right

32:32No Parental Guidance Hosts:we're sort of in that midpoint where when they were really really young like babies you really miss them but they're not even vocal enough to say how much they miss you now we've hit the stage where my son's seven daughter's six the youngest one Trey when I get home and I've been away for a few days he's like daddy and he's excited but he almost feels like out of sight out of mind whereas with the older two I'll get texts from their iPad like I really miss you and I'm like oh yeah do you get a bit of dad guilt then oh immensely and especially because as well with Tor and the reason I bring it up is because I had it the other day on that subject my wife was I think she'd taken Trey somewhere my youngest somewhere and it was just me Cass and Mimi at home and my daughter's at that stage now where she does not like once she starts talking I'll get in you know some kids my son's one way she's the other I'll say to him how was school and he'll go good oh my god that's all I get

33:25Jordan Banjo:from my son

33:26No Parental Guidance Hosts:if I say to Mimi how was school for 45 minutes monologue

33:30Jordan Banjo:really breakdown of

33:31No Parental Guidance Hosts:because Esme said this to Delon Marina wasn't happy and then Marina cried because I didn't sit with her the whole time is this the same

33:37Jordan Banjo:for every girl is this what I've got I don't know

33:40No Parental Guidance Hosts:I've only had one but that's how she is yeah that's

33:42Jordan Banjo:like the full debrief breakdown yeah my son literally would just go good anyway how's football good anything good and I'm like can you give me another adjective please just something

33:54No Parental Guidance Hosts:I saw it on TikTok and my wife sent it to me and laughed because this happened to us she went oh it's not just us then I said to my son how was school she said it good was it alright yeah what did you do nothing then you go you know like now everything's online right you can go on the app he was there holding an iguana and I went what do you mean when did that happen why did that happen oh someone came into the school and I was like that's something to say mate yeah yeah that's quite a big deal it's been around but then like i was saying sorry the other day i was cooking my daughter hadn't stopped talking i was rushing about my i had to get back out uh take my son back out to football there's loads going on and for once he actually came in to talk to me about something and funnily enough i think i'd just been sending a voice note and i was there cooking food and he came he went so dad basically and i i didn't didn't realize i I must have done this out loud.

34:44No Parental Guidance Hosts:I went, oh God. And he went, and you know, like immediately I was like, oh, you are a piece of shit. He went, oh, sorry, don't worry about it. And I literally went, oh my days. Oh no, no, no, no. I want to hear about it. It wasn't at you. It wasn't you. It wasn't him. But in the moment, it's not his fault. And I'm not trying to, you know, it's their moments as parents where sometimes I feel like if you say that out loud, everyone on social media, suddenly a clinical psychologist, like the detriment that you've just caused to his mental health. I'm like, mate, I'm trying my best to. I'm not trying to do anything.

35:17No Parental Guidance Hosts:Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I felt so awful in that moment. I mean, admittedly, he then told me about the most mundane, pointless thing in the world. And I had to pretend. I was like, oh, wicked. Thanks for that, mate. I felt bad for nothing.

35:27Jordan Banjo:Please tell me same time tomorrow. Let's have the same thing. Get back here tomorrow. But yeah, you just sort of learn as you go along. So you've done I'm a Celebrity twice. Yes. And so you were away from the kids for quite a while.

35:36No Parental Guidance Hosts:Yeah. Well, the very first time I did it was 2016. so me me and my me and my uh my wife had only been together about a year at the time we didn't have any kids um but i found weird on a personal level obviously not from a kid front but like for me i found the first i'm a celebrity borderline impossible i really crumbled because i was 23 when i did it and it's the first thing i'd ever done outside of diversity right even when the little presenting things i did with perry was always backstage presenting with diversity doing that so i got asked to do the jungle and i was like that's a random casting funnily enough they asked me to do it in the october and we flew out mid-november so i had like two weeks notice wow oh my god and i think but i'm not sure who but someone must have dropped out and they're like who can we panic cast right so they asked me and i went no problem i was like yes i'll be there no problem so i when i say no problem i actually said no at first and it was my brother who's like look jude like this is a huge opportunity you should do it and i was like okay you wouldn't just be yourself have a laugh you'll be fine said okay turn up the very first day i'm standing there and then i'd never met before the first celeb who came up was carol walderman oh yeah and this obviously this was 10 years ago it was 10 years ago this year actually she's come walking up these steps and carol obviously she's like she's beautiful right legend stunning she's wearing this all gold fasachi dress and she looks like carol walderman from tv there's no acorn then was there right there was she looks like tv star carol walderman and i was standing there my asus my asus shirt and my loafers right i was like i'm a bit off more like a chewie like i immediately crumbled it's like the first day i was fine and then after that i was like all the filming all the this all that it just i just got really overwhelmed really quick and i panicked that i was like it's not about me i'm representing diversity what if i come across like a So instead of saying something wrong, don't say anything.

37:37No Parental Guidance Hosts:So I then went into this weird little show of, I'd literally, every day, I'd sit in my hammock. They'd be like, who wants to do the trial? Do you want to? I'd be like, no, I'm all right. I literally, the first time I went on there, I just completely buckled.

37:49Jordan Banjo:And were you unhappy when you were there? Yeah, I was really unhappy.

37:53No Parental Guidance Hosts:I didn't feel myself. I was really nervous about, like I said, I was really nervous about messing something up. So anyway, I came out. I don't know how I didn't get kicked out first. I think I was like the fourth or fifth person to leave or whatever. And then a few years later, by this point, I've got two kids. I get a call and they're like, we want you to come and do the Legends series. I was like, Legends for what? The most quiet campmate ever existed. I was like, well, how am I as a legend? They're like, can you come on? I said, yeah, let's do it. And I was like, when's the dates? And they were like, oh, we start filming August or whatever it was.

38:28No Parental Guidance Hosts:My honeymoon overlapped to it. So I had to cut my honeymoon short to go and do it. Wow. And I was thinking, oh, is my wife going to be okay with this? Bearing in mind, on the way back from the honeymoon, I found out I was pregnant. Oh my God, of course. So then we panic, get this scan in, and we do this early scan. And, you know, as soon as we did it, he was like, oh, oh, that's, that doesn't look right. That doesn't look, and I was like, what do you mean? Like, I know we're really early. I think she was like eight weeks at the time, something like that. But I was like, we just want to get a really early scan just to check.

38:57No Parental Guidance Hosts:He was like, that doesn't look quite right. And I was like, what does that mean? and he was like well you're gonna have to come back in four weeks and we'll see i was leaving the next day oh my gosh so then i left um and then and then obviously you get your phone taken off you and there's no communication you go in the jungle oh my gosh so i was like really panicking in there like i was thinking oh but in in terms of the show itself as i'm a celebrity this time i went you're never going to get this opportunity again yeah and forget what comes out doesn't come out messing up mate this is actually pretty nuts that you get to do this so we went out to South Africa this time, like in the camp, you'd be walking to trials and back, you'd just see like monkeys running around and all this crazy, I was like, this is insane that we've actually got to, got this on shoot.

39:39No Parental Guidance Hosts:So I just enjoyed it, which I really did. But I remember there was this one trial and the prize was someone gets to call home.

39:47Jordan Banjo:And I remember, and I was like, okay,

39:49No Parental Guidance Hosts:look, I can't, she's so early. We've only just found out. I haven't told my family yet. I don't want to announce on TV. Yeah. Or like, Even if I know the series wasn't going out yet, but I was like, it'll get leaked. I don't want to say, look, my wife's having it. I need to call home. So it was Helen Flanagan.

40:07Jordan Banjo:Yeah.

40:08No Parental Guidance Hosts:I love Helen. She's so funny, right? But sometimes I think like, you know, I don't think she's realising what I'm saying. She was so preoccupied with the trial. So we won. We beat this trial. We used it to two teams. It was like, okay, one person on this team gets a call home. So I went, Helen, look, no one knows this, but Ney's pregnant. She went, oh my God, babe, congrats. I said, right. But we're in a rush because we have to explain. I said, I don't know if everything's all right with the baby or not. I need to get the call home.

40:36Jordan Banjo:And she would totally get that, wouldn't she? Completely understand it.

40:39No Parental Guidance Hosts:Helen, bless her, I just can't lie to save her life. She's so lovely and she's too honest. She can't lie to save her life. I was like, don't say anything to anyone. But when they ask us, I'm going to take the call. She's like, no problem. So they come in and they come in like, right, who's taking the call for your team? Now, it's not just me and Helen on our team. There's other people. I'm trying to remember who it was, right? Let's say it's not Fatima Whitbread, but let's say it was Fatima. Yeah. And I've gone, all right, Fatima, you're the team leader. Who's taking the call? She went, right, Jordan's strong.

41:10No Parental Guidance Hosts:I know he's okay. So he won't need the call. Helen needs to talk to her babies, right?

41:15Jordan Banjo:Oh, no.

41:16No Parental Guidance Hosts:So I've gone like this and looked at Helen like, No, sorry. I want to get the call to Jordan. She's looking at me. He doesn't know. Can't think of an excuse the time. I goes, thanks, Fatima. No, no ditching. But then I think she spent, and then she went out before me, maybe like the next day. She was ringing Nath for me, going, is everything okay? Like panicking. Like I say, Helen's like the nicest person ever. She came out and the first thing she did was speak to Nath for me.

41:43Jordan Banjo:Oh my gosh. That's my point.

41:44No Parental Guidance Hosts:But it's like, you know, in those high pressured situations, and I'm looking at her going, don't say anything, don't say anything. She's like, okay, okay, okay. And I think, I don't know if she thought maybe I can ring someone else. or like, I don't know, but obviously I have all the numbers preloaded, bang, and she got to speak to her kids which is lovely and when she came back in, I hope she didn't like, feel guilty about anything but, Helen's so lovely, that whole experience of I'm a Celeb was so lovely but it was kind of marred a little bit by the fact I was panicking thinking is everything alright with the baby and then when I came out.

42:14No Parental Guidance Hosts:And you couldn't say

42:15Jordan Banjo:to the producers like, listen, can you just tell me?

42:17No Parental Guidance Hosts:Once again, like a lesson learned, I was panicking again about seeming difficult or this or that and going, no, I want a phone call when no one else gets one. Like, I need to. But really what I should have said is that whether I can phone or not, someone needs to reach out with my wife. I can't tell you why, but just say, is everything okay? And she'll know what I mean. Just do that. I should have just done that.

42:37Jordan Banjo:Are the toilets that bad? Are they like, prop them in?

42:40No Parental Guidance Hosts:The toilets were so, so bad. Because the first time we went in, the first time I did it, it was sort of like this little bit of like a straw door, which wasn't ideal. The second time I did it, the Legend series, they left a bit of string and some cloth and it was like it was up to you to tie it up and try and cover it guys can I tell I'm quite an awkward toilet goer anyway I'm always I'm not like you know there's some people I've got to go look it is what it is I'm not that way I get very embarrassed which I shouldn't but I do so you wouldn't poo

43:08Jordan Banjo:in front of your wife no

43:10No Parental Guidance Hosts:no I get really awkward about it like see if my wife's in the bathroom I can say it out loud I don't know why but anyone anyone near me I get stage fright like if I'm standing ready to wee I could be weeing if someone walks in bang it'll stop dead I just can't carry on with it. Even with my wife's there. You should talk to Dr.

43:26Jordan Banjo:Acorn. They'll sort you out. It's mental.

43:28No Parental Guidance Hosts:But yeah, so I cannot tell you how awkward it is. Imagine when all you've eaten is rice and beans and then they try and tell you you have to drink enough water because everybody gets constipated the first few days when you're there because you're not eating a lot of the right stuff and then no one's drinking enough either. So everyone starts to get a little bit clogged up. When you can then finally feel that you can finally go to the toilet and you're sat there and the only thing separating you and I don't know, Joe Swash and Carol have all been having a conversation is a piece of cloth like that, which you can see your feet sticking out under and you're just literally pooing in a bucket.

44:04No Parental Guidance Hosts:And they just say like, yeah, I hope I don't have to do the trial later. And you're like, I'm doing a trial right now. If you guys wouldn't mind leaving, it's the most awkward thing ever. It's so awkward. Yeah, that show is not for me. Would you do Strictly?

44:15Jordan Banjo:Could you be allowed to do Strictly?

44:16No Parental Guidance Hosts:I've been asked to do Strictly a couple of times. I think of all shows, that's the one show I wouldn't want to do. Why not? one it goes on for what feels like about two decades you start in the summer and end at Christmas and would that be

44:28Jordan Banjo:a bit unfair though if you went on Strictly with your credentials I don't think so because you're not trained in ballroom

44:33No Parental Guidance Hosts:I'm telling you now I did a like a quick workshop with Oti Mabuse and I said to her I'm going to be awful and she was like don't be stupid we danced for about four minutes and she went wow you really are awful and not joking I have to unpick everything that's natural to even the way like we hold ourselves in our style is the opposite of what you do in ballroom. It's literally opposite. So of course you've got a heads up with stuff like timing, musicality and general movement, of course. But I think the pressure of people expecting you to be good and then being s*** is what really puts me off.

45:09Jordan Banjo:Yeah, but I think that's really endearing.

45:12No Parental Guidance Hosts:Yeah, but I think a lot of the Strictly audience, they're hardcore, aren't they? Like when I watch people, they'll be like, oh, that person went to stagecoach when they were six. It's going, f***ing, I shouldn't be on there. You're like, all right, guys, give them a break. But they really... I understand, like, you're passionate about the show and stuff. But, yeah, I'm just not sure if it's worth... It's lit what I just said.

45:30Jordan Banjo:Don't you think that would be a good advantage on Strictly? You going on? I'd love to see you on Strictly. Because it is on picking what you've learned. And it's still dancing, but it's a whole new technique.

45:41No Parental Guidance Hosts:Yeah, it is very different. I do just think I'd personally... What about you guys? Would you guys do it? Oh, in a heartbeat. Would you like to do Strictly? Oh, God, no, no.

45:47Jordan Banjo:I'd rather do, I'm a celebrity. Would you? What about you?

45:50No Parental Guidance Hosts:If you had to pick one?

45:51Jordan Banjo:Oh, Strictly. Really? A hundred percent. You love Strictly though, don't you? I love Strictly. I love dancing. Bugs, forget it. Like, that's not entertainment for me. I think you'd be well on Strictly. I would love to go on Strictly. You should do it. But I feel like everyone wants to be on Strictly.

46:03No Parental Guidance Hosts:Well, not us too, apparently. Apart from me.

46:05Jordan Banjo:I mean, there's only one person in this room who wants to do it. No, but you're right. It does go on. But when it starts in August, I'm like, Christmas is here. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, you've been an absolute legend. As we expected and predicted. it's been wiki so much hope you didn't feel too intimidated by us like talk to us about your vasectomy and your acorn but thank you so much John and Banner thank you guys thanks for tuning in to this week's episode now if you enjoyed the chat do us a massive favour hit that subscribe button and ring notification bell so you never miss an episode we're dropping new episodes every Monday and Wednesday

46:49Thank you.