Sharpie Eyebrows & Tracing Paper: Why Growing Up in the 2000s Was Hilarious

3 Aug 2026 · 25 min · 13 chapters

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The episode is a comedic, 2000s-nostalgia chat about beauty, aging, and parenting. Guests trade stories about “Sharpie eyebrows,” tracing paper at school, magazine-driven makeup (including a disastrous fake tan with orange/green drips), and extreme modeling-industry demands (like wearing raw meat). They discuss skincare routines across decades: vitamin C, exfoliation, SPF, retinoids, and treatments like microneedling; plus Botox as “prevention” for forehead movement, with one guest saying she started at 35 for TV and now has fewer lines. Notable examples include Denise Richards’ facelift (jaw/eye/neck lift) and lymph “de-puffing” exercises.

Guests

Hannah (sports presenter/modeling stories), Genevieve Turley (beauty treatments; salmon-sperm discussion), Katie Piper (OBE activist/presenter; skincare and Botox views), Professor Green (copper deficiency joke; aging/parenting effects), Trini Whittle (skincare education and routines).

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Chapters

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The Reality of Botox

0:45 to 1:06

Discussion on Botox and its influence on self-image in the entertainment industry.

“Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look.”

The Reality of Botox

1:24 to 2:31

Discussion on Botox and its influence on self-image in the entertainment industry.

“Head back to class with the number one gummy supplement brand.”

Reality of Modeling

2:42 to 4:17

Insights into the modeling industry and personal experiences of the hosts.

“And you do get asked to do the most ridiculous things.”

Ridiculous Modeling Requests

4:17 to 4:38

Hosts share absurd requests they received during their modeling careers.

“But, you know, I was asked to do ridiculous things.”

Navigating the Industry

4:38 to 5:35

Discussion on challenges and experiences in the entertainment industry.

“And you just pray to God there wasn't a dog in the audience.”

Advice and Expectations

5:35 to 7:22

Hosts reflect on the advice given to them and its implications.

“This agent, I was engaged to Andy at the time.”

Beauty Treatments Discussion

7:22 to 10:24

Exploration of unconventional beauty treatments and their origins.

“People are putting genuine salmon sperm around me.”

School Beauty Trends

10:27 to 14:00

Hosts reminisce about beauty trends and experiences from their school days.

“Why have we got all the salmon in the fridge, Jen?”

Skin Care Mishaps of the Past

14:00 to 15:17

Explore the humorous challenges of skincare in the 2000s.

“Oh, I remember having this one that everyone used.”

Aging and Parenthood

15:17 to 16:51

Discuss how becoming a parent influences aging perceptions and self-care.

“Wouldn't want people to think I'm a narcissist.”
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Skincare Insights for Moms

17:36 to 21:36

Trini shares effective skincare routines and concerns for women in their 30s and 40s.

“And can we just say how fabulous you look and you are just generally.”

Navigating Hormonal Changes

21:36 to 24:39

Understanding skin changes during hormonal shifts and menopause.

The Role of Botox and Lymphatic Drainage

24:39 to 26:47

Discussion on Botox, lymphatic drainage techniques, and personal skincare routines.

“This stuff is why, you know, you might think my face looks weird, but actually I'm 61 and I look fabulous.”
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0:00Coming up, let's talk about some beauty treatments. So I've done Botox since I was 35 and I did it because I was going on telly and my forehead moved like a T-file head. I had a baby face for so long, when I started selling records I was 28 and people couldn't believe it. They were like, no way, I thought you were like 20. It's like, what's aged you the most? Having a child. It's matured me in many ways. There were people in my family, you know, cleaning their genitals and I'll put it on my face. It's basically salmon sperm. And I need to know if there's a fisherman just f***ing salmon and going, this looks good, let me try this.

0:37Hey Chicago, class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. First day fits. Handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Croc store today. Hey friends, Olivia from OLLI. Between new routines and the ultimate group project known as parenting, you need science-backed solutions that work with your life. That's where OLLI comes in. Start your mornings off right with Maltese made to support nutrition and immune health.

1:19Choose from our lineup of gut-supporting probiotics, and we've got occasional sleep support to help the whole fam chase their big dreams. Head back to class with the number one gummy supplement brand. Stock up on OLLI.com today. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Chronic migraine is 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month.

1:49It prevents on average 8 to 9 headache days a month versus 6 to 7 for placebo. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness.

2:17Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com, or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more. So imagine you're at home now on mat leave, watching Netflix with a brew. What would you be watching? do you know what I think that I would re-watch because this is like hot topic right now all of the America's Next Top Model this documentary has just come out with um you know what really went on in the series and never seen it I've I've actually never seen the show yeah but I just watched the documentary with Tyra Banks because she was like the executive producer and it is about finding the next top model in America and watching the documentary there are so many things that I can relate to growing up as a model yeah um which in the first cycle of the documentary um it was very true to the modeling industry you know it was it is you know I know it sounds ridiculous but it is hard work it's it's extremely tiring when you are one not eating properly two you have people grown-ups when you're essentially a child you know I was 15 kind of saying that you're you need to lose weight and like lassoing a measuring tape around your hips and measuring and going no don't eat today um and then getting sent off to do what's called go-sees and castings and you literally go on all these appointments before you had a mobile phone so you had like an a to z map and you didn't know where you were going and walking to a room like a studio and it's full of photographers and agents and it's very, very intimidating.

4:05And you do get asked to do the most ridiculous things. Like you really do. Like what? What's the most ridiculous thing you're asked to do? I was asked to wear raw meat as an outfit. Right Lady Gaga. Exactly. I did it before Lady Gaga. And I'm vegetarian. Not that I, you know, whatever. But, you know, I was asked to do ridiculous things. What campaign was that for? It was a fashion show. It was like London Fashion Week. Oh my God, really? I stank. What, so you put like back bacon over your nips? Pretty much, yeah. Like steaks and stuff. And you just pray to God there wasn't a dog in the audience.

4:46But you know, it was... Oh my God. So when I watched the documentary, the first bits of when the show started, it was very real. but then the show went on to doing ridiculous things like utterly ridiculous things it does go to quite a dark place it does remind me of a time of when I started my modeling career and there are moments that I was watching and I was like oh god yeah that's a bit of PTSD um you know I had an eating disorder from my experience as a model and the way I was spoken to and growing up in that industry it's was it's something that is I know that it does exist and it was it did exist you know but obviously the industry has changed a lot for the better.

5:35It's awful how you can be taken advantage of I remember when I first started presenting like doing sports tv presenting and I was lucky enough to get a call with an agent so he was like come down to London and I'm from like up north so going all the way down to London on the train and uh this I remember going into this room there's this really huge guy and uh he says right Hannah like you have no profile like I think it was my space at the time he was like you have no profile like there is nothing about you I googled you there's like very minimal stuff um you've been on gladiators whatever and then he said um he goes right what we need to do is get you a profile so Do you remember Frankie Kikosi from The X Factor?

6:19Oh my God, yes. This agent, I was engaged to Andy at the time. This agent said to me, he goes, right, what you need to do is find out where Frankie is going to be. He usually goes to China White's on a weekend. Yeah. You need to fall out of the club with Frankie Kikosi. Shut up. There'll be press outside and you'll get pictured. And you just need to tell a couple of stories about him. And that's going to get you in the papers. That's what's going to get your profile. then you can get if you want to be a sports tv and I was like but I really wanted at the time I was I really want to kind of present on like sky sports and I'm engaged so that'd be really like disrespectful to my husband like husband-to-be and that's not me you as like this drunk blonde falling out of a nightclub with a profile so that is the advice that he gave me now luckily I was like 24 at the time 23 24 and uh I'd be younger than that actually and um I remember thinking well that's not who I am and that's not what I want to do or how I want to get there but if your daughter said to you oh hey mum a photographer now has just said to me take all your clothes off because he wants to take a picture you'd be like where's the picture going who's got the rights to it have you signed anything yeah like what's this guy's website but I also think my daughter would be like f*** off yeah no yeah whereas I don't know like you hope don't yeah we do hope yeah but um I definitely think that my daughter's got much more of a backbone than I ever did please welcome Genevieve Turley

7:54let's talk about some beauty treatments because there's this one and I want to know if you've tried it and I want to know where it comes from because it's basically salmon sperm and I need to know if there's a fisherman just f***ing salmon and going, oh this looks good. Let me try this. Is that actually salmon sperm? People are putting genuine salmon sperm around me. But who's finding the sperm? Who's going, I've got an idea. How much do we need? Four kilograms? Give me a day. Yeah. How's that working? I really wish I had the answers, guys. Have you ever tried it? No. Have you ever f***ed up a salmon?

8:28I haven't f***ed up any s***. Hey Chicago, class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. Try it, style it, make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up, it shows off. First day fits, handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Crocs store today. Hey friends, Olivia from OLLI. Between new routines and the ultimate group project known as parenting, you need science-backed solutions that work with your life. That's where OLLI comes in. Start your mornings off right with Maltese made to support nutrition and immune health.

9:12Choose from our lineup of gut-supporting probiotics, and we've got occasional sleep support to help the whole fan chase their big dreams. Head back to class with the number one gummy supplement brand. Stock up on OLLI.com today. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Chronic migraine is 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month.

9:42It prevents, on average, 8 to 9 headache days a month versus 6 to 7 for placebo. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Allerge your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness.

10:09Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more. Salmon recently. Going for the budget option. Why have we got all the salmon in the fridge, Jen? Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know a huge amount about it. You see people, is that when they've got the dots under their eyes?

10:42Yeah, they get all the lumps, don't they? And it makes me feel really funny when I see that. I think I keep seeing people doing crazy to their face and I'm just like, oh, have you seen? Have you seen recently Denise Richards facelift? No. Yes. Yeah. She's just had a facelift and she and she's very open and honest about it. And I think the surgeon has done a really good job. He's smashed it. and you know she's not gone for like the filler route or like all the you know lip enlargement she's literally just gone I'm going to put it back to what it was yeah she's just got more of a jaw line yeah the sort of jowls I hate that word and they've been lifted a bit and her eyes have been lifted yeah and I think she looks great and her neck as well because it does the neck as well and I just think you know if I was to go down that route if I wanted any treatments or anything I think I would go down that route rather than anything else eventually.

11:43Because it's just putting everything back where it was. She's a best-selling author, an award-winning presenter, an activist honoured with an OBE. We are talking about the incredible Katie Piper. She's here. Hello. Good morning. I was feeling useless today. You need Louise to say that to you every morning when you wake up. I'm here for you every morning. We can just like send that as a voice note every day if you like. Great ego boost. Love it. It's crazy when you think about, I actually remember going to school and we would go to like Superdrug and put all the testers on our faces. Oh yeah. Body shop.

12:20Body shop. Oh yeah. That was posh. It looked like I was going to be a teamy version of the Spice Girls or ABBA. Like it was horrendous. And my teacher, I'd get to school and sometimes I'd put like concealer on my lips. Oh yeah. With a brown coffee shimmer over the top. Yes, and it's almost like put concealer over your eyebrows and just get a pen, like a Sharpie. And just put it over. And the teachers used to be like, are you all right, girls? And we'd be like, yeah. And they'd be like, can you go to the toilet and wash that off? Probably with spit. Probably with spit. Do you remember at school?

12:52The green towel? No, the tracing. Did you used to have squares of tracing paper for toilet paper? Oh, we did. Do you remember that? I was telling somebody the other day, and they were like, you might have had tracing paper. I remember being quite rough. Yeah. There was tracing paper. You'd wipe your flower with it and be like, oh, the girls in the toilet have just let her wee. Nobody would dare have a poo at school. You cut your sphincter. My makeup journey was, I don't remember choosing colors that suited me. My makeup would be what was ever free on Shout Magazine. Oh my God, Shout Magazine. There would be a lipstick on the front of Shout Magazine, irrelevant what the shade was.

13:25That would then become my lipstick. And everything was magazine led. Everything was magazine led. My mum used to get a subscription of a magazine. I don't think it's around anymore. But I remember one week a fake tan arrived. Oh, no. I've never seen a fake tan before. And it was like a spray one. Yeah. I just sprayed it. That's quite progressive of you. And just left it. Yeah. And I had like drips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like orange drips down my face. Sometimes a bit greeny as well. And I was so, so embarrassed. I like to go to school. See where you've been dribbling in the night. does a white line down your face it was so bad and i didn't know how to get rid of it i don't remember any skin care spit spit quite yeah you know it's really it's a multi-bomb but kids these days they do want these ridiculously priced products and actually they have the collagen they do say though do you remember at school you there was a lot of like really aggressive acne and they say if you look at like uh gen z gen alpha now that you don't see as bad skin as you used to see because there is a bit more education in our tutorial yeah you don't see like the aggressive purple acne we used to see at school i was called pepperoni face at school yeah yeah i was always terrible i will find them and i will hunt them down maybe if somebody had said to me beforehand like maybe drink a bit more water that's the thing and clean your face with it was obviously yeah yeah i just used to get a face uh face cloth that had probably well they say face cloths if you don't wash them obviously regularly in your bathroom um uh like more unhygienic than a toilet.

15:01Oh, I remember having this one that everyone used. Mum, dad, me. Everybody used it. Like on his a**hole. Well, that's the thing. Genuinely, I think that there were people in my family cleaning their genitals and then I'd put it on my face. Today we've got the amazing Professor Green. Woo! Hello, welcome. Like I do look in the mirror sometimes. Not that often. Wouldn't want people to think I'm a narcissist. But I don't even... I'm not going through the grey stage. I've got hairs that are white. No. Why don't I get to go grey? Why do I have to go white? Can I not have like a graded exposure to this transition?

15:36Then you go down the rabbit hole of deficiencies. I'm like, I actually did find out I was hugely copper deficient. And I'm like, oh, maybe this is all just a copper deficiency. I've been taking copper for months now. It's not. It's just the fact that I am. I feel like I started to believe people when they couldn't believe my age. I had a baby face for so long. Like when I started selling records, I was 28. I was like 30 around read all about it times. And people couldn't believe it. They were like, no way. I thought you were like 20. I'm like no and I held on to it for a little while but I think 10 years on a tour bus I really put some effort into getting rid of it and being a parent and then being a parent yeah it's like what's aged you the most having a child which I would argue that probably has it's helped me grow up but it has definitely matured yeah it's matured me in many ways yeah I've got it well you just don't really take care of yourself like like you know like you used to yeah it's the whole like skin care routine before bed I'll be like change or put Annabelle's nappy on or whatever and just get a face wipe and i'd be talking to her like taking my mascara off with a face wipe and i'd just double check and i just used it on her ass so then i'm like and then it's like chuck that in the tommy tippy bit it's like bedtime and then it's like she's looking at me like this i ain't going to sleep oh you got an early start tomorrow have you mummy yeah well last night let's stay up literally that last night i stupidly said to the kids um mummy's not going to be here in the morning I've got an early start and my daughter took two hours for me to settle her to get to bed then my middle child was like they know they know they know they know and it's like babies know when you're like you know when you first go back to work after you've had a baby and you're like exhausted and you know that you've got stains on you and you're like lactate and you probably wet yourself and you're like right I'm ready to go to the office and then you get dressed ready to go and you think oh I haven't really slept last night again and it's like I don't actually know what I look like anymore.

17:30Please give a huge welcome to the one and only Trini Whittle. Good morning. She's here. Hello. Hello. Welcome. And can we just say how fabulous you look and you are just generally. Well, can I just say what an amazing setting you have? First of all, you're both looking great. The lighting is relatively flattering. Can you tell me, right, as a mum, I don't know what cleanser, toner, moisturiser, I don't know how to stop my face whatever you're going to buy there's a moment when you probably look in the mirror and you might think i just feel so tired dull and tired i think in our late 30s we can feel dull and tired yeah so things like vitamin c brightens your skin cleaning your skin properly little exfoliation which means you know if you've got your dining room table let's say you're feeling your skin's dry in your 40s and you're thinking what do i do and people slap on another moisturizer I'd say think of that table that you polish and normally you take off the dust before you polish it yeah and um exfoliant does that for your skin so you don't take the dust off which is dead skin cells a baby wipes not taking that off no baby wipes baby wipes the stage before when I call cleansing so a baby wipe what I think what happens just to kind of give a different I'm going to give you an analogy yeah do you have a wooden chopping board I do yeah okay how often do you actually just rinse it under the sink versus clean it with a sponge versus put a brillo pad on it yeah there is a difference there's a difference so which ones do you do well i'm a bit of a deep cleaner at all times oh i'm not i just brush things off okay what if it was meat oh oh no i'd give it a wash what kind of wash i would probably rinse it under the sink with water yeah would you put that would you put your washing thing with some fairy liquid on it yeah maybe okay so you're a wet wipe girl yeah but you could be an exfoliator yeah all right i try really hard i just use all the wrong products okay so because i do think that's the difference and the thing is you have lovely skin but it may occasionally congestion you've always had great skin so you don't try hard i do i just use 20 products oh well that's why but you know there's if you've born with great skin you do less and if you've born where at one stage you haven't loved your skin you try more really bad acne exactly i know you did because that's what i did and that's why we when you say you use lots of stuff you don't know what it does you're always thinking will this be the solution yeah whereas she never did she went to sleep she was susanna she went to sleep in her makeup she didn't give a she was a little bit drunk she woke up she's on a baby's bottom skin yeah you're not wrong actually i did go to sleep i know we just spit up but that was in my 20s not now i work hard on my skin all right but us two my face used to be like a pepperoni pizza at school me was like you medicated for it exactly and just i just that are they talking to my spot on me if i went on a date this lighting would just kill me i would want to go in a you know something where there was one candle another table away i would always in fact move the light from the table if it was possible to another table i had to go on a contraceptive pill because my skin was that bad i remember when i first went on it my skin went so dry that when I smiled one day my skin around here just cracked oh god did you then go on aractate yes yes me too I mean I did dnette then I did minicin tetracycline and then aractate I remember my dad picked me up once from a party and he went oh my god and he said your skin is so bad he gave me his mobile phone which was like that big yeah and he said Hannah phone the doctor I'm going to take you to the doctor to try to help you with that because it was so bad um but yeah it really it did help but you're right because of that i always think you're trying when you know at some point when i get perimenopausal which won't be that far away it's like i'm worried my skin's gonna come out in spots again because of my hormones yeah my skin changed when i'm perimenopausal my skin definitely changed every woman should if possible do the following five things in some form during the day over a 24-hour period clean their skin exfoliate their skin put vitamin c on their skin wear an spf and do a treatment that's going to help with aging process which to me is a retinoid and to use that in your 30s i don't think you need to use it in your 20s actually i don't think you need to do botox in your 20s um so it's what you start at different decades so 20s is about vitamin c and cleaning your skin and maybe some nice serum that makes you feel underneath your makeup you feel you have nice skin and a little bit of hydration but you're you've got lots of hydration you've got collagen you've got everything 30s if you are having kids you've had hormone changes you're feeling i'm feeling my skin's a little you know tired there's some lines you could go down a botox route you could go down tweakments route but also having that skin that you look after morning and night 40s you are perimenopausal i went into menopause at 43 44 because i'd actually done so much ivf and i didn't know that kind of took a year off each each year which a doctor in america told me i've never been told that before don't give a shit that i because i have lila but it's just it's a fact so your 40s is you see these signs of aging you could be quite tired as well so you're thinking what do i do that wakens up my skin so it's plump up for me it's hyaluronic acids peptides introduce those into your routine and 50s your skin could be menopausal and coming out of menopause so you you need support to your skin because it is you know over a 10-year period this is just lovely things look forward to but easily circumnavigational um you lose 20 of your collagen over a 10-year period because you lose a percentage a year when you get menopause it's two percent a year but there are things you can do to challenge that you can stimulate your skin you can do microneedling you can do things to your skin where your skin is forced to make collagen because you attack it it sounds weird but that's what microneedling does and it puts products in deeper so bringing little tools into a daily routine.

23:30And what's your thoughts on Botox? Because some people are really against it, it's like putting toxins into your skin. Is that counterintuitive of what you would recommend? I think they do totally different things. So I've done Botox since I was 35. Right. And I did it because I was going on telly and my forehead moved like a T-file head. I have quite a big forehead. And I was so embarrassed by how much my forehead moved when I talk. I did it when it was literally the second year it was in London. And somebody said, it will stop your forehead moving I didn't have lines on my face but as a result of doing it twice a year I probably have fewer lines on my face so it's like a prevention it's a prevention and you know do you start if you if you choose to do it it is a toxin I think there's a lot of I think alcohol is toxic I think smoking is toxic so I do think that's kind of you know what is it doing to you it's a personal choice and it's also when I look in the mirror for me do I think do I want younger do I think I want to be full of energy so for me that's I want to take really great supplements that work so I research them a lot I want to have glow on my skin which is caused by skincare and not makeup so I'm actually doing good things to my skin and I want to do this five minute routine to move my lymph because it will wake me up you know I was on Lorraine the other day and I was showing her these different things people say oh but she said so much work done to her face I actually want to say you know what darlings I've had Botox yes but this stuff is actually why I have a good jawline still.

24:56This stuff is why, you know, you might think my face looks weird, but actually I'm 61 and I look fabulous. So the things I think important is we can wake up and if we have, I only have about six hours sleep a night. So I can wake up puffy or tired. And so I need to do the lymph. So what I do is you have to open the lymph, not on your face, if you want to de-puff your face. So I start here and I do 10 like this from the middle of your chest bone out to your armpit 10 times. And then I tap 10 times. And then I do the other side. And then I go and I take a V shape like you're doing off to somebody.

25:31And I do in front of and behind my ear. And I come down to my collarbone in a movement. And I do that 10 times. And then I might actually get my ears and just wriggle them because you're just moving your lymph a bit that way. I love an ear wiggle. Isn't it good, an ear wiggle? Just an ear. like there were Ferengi on Star Trek if anyone knows this reference but I love they used to like having their ears touched they had very big ears fake people on Star Trek but I always looked at the Ferengi do you make any sounds when you do this? I don't sort of get no I just but I make a sound later which I'll tell you about and then I go under my armpit and I'm just like I'm just sort of going from the it's quite aggressive then you go to your tummy you go side to side and up and down inside groin like that wow I tell you what if my husband came in and I was giving my groin a rub he'd be like Yeah, ooh, let's do it now.

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