In short
South Korea’s adoption scandal—whether adoptees were abandoned or stolen—after a government investigative report found adoption fraud, falsified records, and profit-driven child trafficking by private agencies; includes Aaron Gregorchuk’s personal search for his biological family and the policy shift ending private international adoptions.
Guests
Kelly Kasulis Cho, Washington Post reporter based in Seoul, who covered South Korean adoption fraud and adoptee cases.
Guest background (Aaron)
Born in South Korea in 1988; raised in Bay City, Michigan by Polish-American parents; EMT training, PTSD, substance abuse, jail; sober since 2019; roofing apprenticeship; has a Korean adoptee sister and a brother who is his parents’ biological son.
Key claims
Charity/Christian organizations falsified names and swapped identities; children were taken without consent; origin stories were fabricated; agencies faced quotas/order lists; adoption fees created incentives.
Notable examples
Aaron’s paperwork describing a 19-year-old mother relinquishing him at Anyang hospital; his file matching others’ “copy-paste” narratives; his letter to his birth mother via the agency with no response.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAaron's Early Life and Adoption
1:30 to 3:38
Explore Aaron's childhood, his understanding of his adoption, and his family's perspective.
“The South Korean government announced this weekend that it was ending private adoptions for good.”
Struggles and Turning Point
3:38 to 7:11
Discover the challenges Aaron faced as an adult and his journey towards redemption.
“I spoke with Aaron's dad, Dave, and he told me that, you know, Aaron was their first son and his wife, Aaron's adoptive mother, was having a lot of health problems.”
Understanding Korean Adoptions
7:11 to 11:21
Learn about the history and scale of adoptions from South Korea and the socio-economic factors involved.
“I want to now understand a little bit more about Korean adoptees.”
The Investigation into Adoption Practices
11:21 to 13:14
Examine the findings of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission regarding adoption abuses.
“fake names, made up origin stories, swapped identities.”
Aaron's Reaction to New Findings
13:14 to 14:01
Listen to how Aaron coped with the shocking revelations about his past and their implications.
“One of his friends sent him an article in March when this was first covered, the results of this investigation.”
Aaron's Journey Begins
14:01 to 14:24
Learn about Aaron's realization of his adoption and the quest for his origins.
“And he had told me that things were starting to look good.”
Uncovering the Truth of Adoption
14:33 to 16:42
Explore Aaron's investigation into his adoption and the discrepancies he found.
“And if we don't know the answer, we'll tell you.”
The Impact of Historical Context
16:42 to 18:01
Understand how the political climate in South Korea during the 1980s influences adoption practices.
“So does he come to a conclusion at that point about what happened with him?”
Government Action and Activism
18:01 to 19:22
Learn about the South Korean government's response to adoption abuses and its implications for adoptees.
“Well, I'm just thinking about Aaron and others like him and whether the South Korean government, who's actively investigating this, whether they're doing anything for people like Aaron.”
Reaching Out to Biological Family
19:22 to 21:44
Hear about Aaron's attempts to contact his birth mother through the adoption agency.
“So we're talking about a possibility in which more adoptees are able to submit their stories and ask an investigative body to look at it.”
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Seeking Answers and Closure
21:44 to 23:29
Follow Aaron's emotional journey as he seeks answers about his origins and the truth behind his adoption.
“And they said that they called his birth mother back and she did not respond.”
The Broader Implications of Adoption Stories
23:29 to 24:54
Reflect on the broader issues faced by adoptees and their rights to their identities.
“but so many other people's stories who are grappling with this.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Aaron Gregorchuk thought he knew his origin story. He was born in South Korea in 1988, and then his mother gave him up for adoption. The original story that I read on my paperwork, that I was abandoned by a 19-year-old mother, teenage mother, teenage pregnancy, just abandoned me at the hospital, couldn't afford to take care of me. And that's the story I had accepted. But in March, something happened that changed everything he thought he knew about himself.
0:34A South Korean investigative commission report revealed that the country had been complicit in a decades-long crime. Charity organizations had falsified records, stolen children, and given them up for adoption overseas, all for profit. This was all over the news. The story of three South Korean Australians whose lives were rocked by one of the biggest adoption scandals in history. Many adoptives are now working together to uncover what really happened in their past. My friend Amanda sent me one of the news articles, and I was reading it, and I was like, jaw open. I had absolutely no idea about any of this.
1:18Aaron thought maybe he wasn't abandoned by his birth mother after all. Maybe he had been stolen from her.
1:29From the newsroom of The Washington Post, this is Post Reports. I'm Elahey Izadi. It's Monday, July 21st. The South Korean government announced this weekend that it was ending private adoptions for good. A newly restructured system will be run by the government instead. But there are thousands of Korean adoptees around the world. People who were adopted under the old system still trying to piece together where they came from. Today, I talk with reporter Kelly Kasulis Cho, who joins me from Seoul. She shares her reporting on adoption fraud in South Korea and one man's quest to find his biological family.
2:20Hi, Kelly. Thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me. So, Kelly, I want to learn more about Aaron. For most of his life, what was his understanding of how he came to be adopted by his birth parents? Well, Aaron is 37 now. He lives in Bay City, Michigan, and he grew up with two Polish-American parents, a sister that is also a Korean adoptee, and a brother who is the biological son of his parents. Growing up, he told me when he was young, he knew he was adopted, but he really didn't know much about the backstory. And around the time that he was a teenager, his mother sort of let it slip that he was abandoned.
3:02And that's when he got a lot of his paperwork, which he started to sift through around his early 20s. And he had discovered that, according to his papers, his birth mother was a 19-year-old unmarried woman in South Korea. And she essentially relinquished him at the hospital just south of Seoul in a city called Anyang a day after he was born. And what about his adoptive parents? Why did they want to adopt? And what was their understanding at the time about their adoption process? I spoke with Aaron's dad, Dave, and he told me that, you know, Aaron was their first son and his wife, Aaron's adoptive mother, was having a lot of health problems.
3:50She had been through something like six surgeries trying to conceive and carry a child and it wasn't working out. And so someone at their church introduced them to a Christian organization that kind of acted as a middleman between them and the adoption agency that they worked with. They felt like it was a very smooth, professional process. Aaron's dad had said, you know, it being a Christian organization, he put so much trust into them. And the whole process seemed quite like a well-oiled machine. They applied to adopt Aaron. And when they picked him up from the airport, he was escorted by two or three young women.
4:30They thought that he was in really good hands. and they never really questioned it since until they heard from him about the revelations of this investigation that has come out of South Korea. I want to get to that in a moment, but before that, I'm just curious what Aaron's childhood was like. What was life like growing up for him? He mentioned, you know, he didn't have a bad childhood. He grew up in what was kind of perceived as a normal American family. He grew up in a predominantly white community, which is a story you hear from a lot of South Korean adoptees, and that can be quite a disorienting experience.
5:07He was a very creative child. He liked to draw. He eventually went on to study graphic design briefly before dropping out of college during the 2008 financial crisis because he was worried about incurring a lot of student debt and getting a degree that might not turn into a job. And he told me that he trained to be an EMT and he was making just above minimum wage. And that job really affected him. He saw a lot of things that most of us don't see. And he ended up being diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. It really affected his life, his sleep, his health. He started to develop substance abuse issues, including with alcohol.
5:49And one day he quit his job because he had completed this very difficult training. And the promotion he was offered was just a couple dollars above minimum wage. And that really set him off. He couldn't figure out how to make a living doing this really important work. And he started to turn to selling drugs, which is something that he very much regrets now. By 2019, all of my sources of income were entirely illegal. I was essentially a career criminal. He got in trouble with the law. He spent a few stints in jail. And he really lost his way for quite some time. What happened to him next? In 2019, he found out that he was expecting a child.
6:31You know, I kind of panicked for a couple months. And he really turned his life around. He said he got sober. He started focusing on being a father. Like, I've done a lot of really bad things in life just for, you know, because I couldn't handle myself, because I couldn't handle what was going on around me. But, you know, it's my only chance to actually make that right and actually be the person for my child that I never had growing up. He got an apprenticeship in roofing, and that has become his career since. And so he's really been able to turn his life around and find a stable source of living and to enjoy life as a sober man.
7:13I want to now understand a little bit more about Korean adoptees. how many children born in South Korea were adopted by people living in other countries? So estimates suggest that more than 200 ,000 South Korean children were adopted internationally since the Korean War halted in an armistice agreement in 1953. And my understanding is that's the most children out of any other country that had an international adoption system. China is often cited as another country that had a lot of international adoptions, but its numbers don't even rival South Korea's, quite frankly. And why were there so many adoptions internationally from South Korea?
7:53What we essentially saw was Korea in post-war poverty didn't necessarily have a robust child welfare system to take care of the poor. And then there were a lot of other social pressures as well that made people in hard situations maybe easily coerced or feel like they were not equipped to take care of children or that their children would not live a good life in South Korea. And so after the war, there were certainly a lot of Christian organizations and NGOs that flooded South Korea and tried to spread religion and work on child welfare projects. But particularly in the 1970s, when the Vietnam War happened, a lot of that aid and that attention dried up.
8:43And so what you saw is a lot of private agencies, many of which were affiliated with Christian churches, acting as the child welfare system and the South Korean government sort of tacitly agreeing with that or allowing it to happen. But then I know from your reporting, there's been this movement in recent years to push the South Korean government to investigate what happened with adoptions in the country. How did that start? You know, when I arrived to Korea in 2016, I certainly knew about some of the issues around South Korea's adoption history and its adoption system. I mean, just meeting adoptees left and right, you hear stories about what has been going on.
9:27But this was kind of a grassroots movement of activists spreading the word. And in the last couple of years, those activists were really able to convince the South Korean government to take a proper look at this. And what we've seen is earlier this year in March, this group called the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which is a government commissioned independent investigative body, they put out some initial results of a nearly three-year investigation. And what that investigation essentially says is that the South Korean government allowed some of these private adoption agencies to commit widespread human rights abuses against children and their birth families.
10:13What did this commission uncover in coming to that conclusion? The commission was only able to make a ruling that human rights abuses occurred in a few dozen cases, but largely that's because there isn't a lot of information or records that could be recovered for these investigations. But what they essentially found was there were numerous cases of children's names being falsified or, for instance, swapped with the name of a child that passed away. So their records and their origin story was falsified, and then they were adopted abroad. They found that in some cases, children were taken without their birth parents' consent.
10:57I've heard stories of parents who were lied to and said that their child had died shortly after the birth mother delivered the baby. And it turns out that that baby was actually adopted abroad. And we've also seen numerous cases of children essentially being sent to families that were not vetted at all. So we're talking about, you know, in some cases, literally stolen babies, in some cases, severe coercion to get people to relinquish their children, people who are not the birth parents themselves, relinquishing children to adoption agencies, fake names, made up origin stories, swapped identities.
11:40And none of this really complies with sort of the international conventions that have been established that are supposed to protect these children who are adopted abroad.
11:53What you're describing here, Kelly, is really shocking. And it leaves me wondering, why was this happening? So did the commission try to answer that question? Did they see whether these organizations had any financial incentive to do this? Absolutely. So because these adoptions were run by private organizations, these organizations could essentially charge whatever they want as forced donations or adoption fees. And so the South Korean Commission that looked into this actually called it a profit-driven industry that was designed to meet demand. And so there were actually foreign agencies that were sending quotas or almost like order lists saying that they want a certain number of children in the next month.
12:48And these adoption agencies would essentially scramble to fill them. Wow. So all of this is happening in South Korea, this investigation, digging into these cases, as difficult as it is to, given the little amount of information available. And then I'm thinking about Aaron. You know, he's in the States. And as we heard earlier, he wasn't aware of any of this. So tell me about how he became aware. One of his friends sent him an article in March when this was first covered, the results of this investigation. And he was simply shocked. I found him in a Facebook group. He had made a post trying to find information about himself.
13:34It was a group for South Korean adoptees, and many of them were sharing really sad stories and reactions to the results of this report, which is they're questioning their entire past. They don't know where they can even acquire their documents or if the documents they have are complete. For Aaron specifically, it really was an ungrounding experience. He had just gotten sober a couple of years ago. He was just turning his life around. And he had told me that things were starting to look good. He was happy. He had already gotten over what he called his first existential crisis, which is discovering as a young man, a teenager, that he was abandoned at a hospital.
14:15And now he was sort of thrown into this world where he has to reconfront whether that story is even true. Well, let's take a pause here. And after the break, we'll follow Aaron's quest to find out more about his origins. We'll be right back.
14:33Thank you.
15:02And if we don't know the answer, we'll tell you. Ask the Post AI. Find it on WashingtonPost.com or in the app. Kelly, once Aaron learned that there was this investigation going on about adoption in South Korea and that it concluded that human rights abuses did occur in South Korea during the time he was adopted, what did Aaron do next? He started looking through the adoption papers that his mother had saved for him. And he started comparing notes with people that he found online. And he really became suspicious because he found that his file looked nearly identical to some other people that he had met in this Facebook group for Korean adoptees.
15:51And it's almost nearly a copy-paste. Like, there's maybe a few things change here and there, like ages of the mother, you know, a few words of the narrative, but almost verbatim copy-paste over the course of, you know, years. Many fields were left blank. It was kind of a classic story of a 19-year-old woman relinquishing her child at a hospital shortly after he was born with virtually no other information about her. My assigned Korean name was translated to quick prosperity, which literally means fast money. And so he really started to become suspicious. And then you really stop to think about it.
16:31And like, you know, how many babies do they really think get abandoned at birth from the hospital? Like, you know, like how often do you really think that happens? So does he come to a conclusion at that point about what happened with him? Like, where was his head at at that moment? In the beginning, it seemed like he really had become convinced that there was foul play or that something wasn't right about the origin story that he was told. I mean, particularly the year that he was born, 1988. You know, all of the years throughout South Korean's adoption industry were certainly problematic. But the late 1980s, when South Korea was really struggling to become a democracy and was under military rule.
17:17That time is kind of rife with these bad practices. And so in the beginning, he started to think that maybe there is a birth mother out there that didn't want to let him go. And he started to let himself imagine reuniting with that person. Did he tell his adoptive parents, the parents who raised him about this revelation? He told them about the initial results of that South Korean government commission investigation, but he did not tell them necessarily that he was looking into his past or that he was reaching out to the adoption agency that he came from asking for more information about himself.
18:00And up until our story was published in the Washington Post, my understanding is he did not tell them that he was looking into that. Wow. Well, I'm just thinking about Aaron and others like him and whether the South Korean government, who's actively investigating this, whether they're doing anything for people like Aaron. So the South Korean government has decided that it's going to order these adoption agencies to start transferring their records to a singular government office that will then deal with adoptees' cases and their files from there. When I speak to activists in the adoptee community, there's kind of a mixed message about whether or not this is a positive development.
18:50On one hand, certainly it means that all adoptees will be part of a more standardized system. And even though it's a government body, you could argue that there may be a more neutral party than some of the adoption agencies that may have partaken in some shady practices. And so they might be more willing to cooperate with getting adoptees their records. On the other hand, there's been a lot of concern people will be bogged down in further bureaucracy that some of the files may get lost or destroyed in the transfer. It's really hard to know how this is going to play out. There are two parties in the South Korean government that have certainly expressed interest in commissioning a new investigative body or a new Truth and Reconciliation Commission to look into the remaining cases that were submitted as well as further cases.
19:39So we're talking about a possibility in which more adoptees are able to submit their stories and ask an investigative body to look at it. And kind of for activists, the idea here is if someone has a case in which it was ruled that they were victims of human rights abuses, that opens up a pathway for some kind of legal recourse or some kind of consequence for the parties that were involved in these tragic stories. And then I'm wondering about Aaron. I mean, you mentioned him reaching out to his adoption agency. How did that go for him? It's been hard for him. He reached out to the adoption agency that his adoptive parents worked with in the past.
20:22And, you know, they were very responsive at first. And they actually, on their own volition, told him that they were going to reach out to his birth mother, that they had already called her, and that she had been waiting for him for a very long time and was hoping to speak with him. And so this was a big moment for Aaron. And the adoption agency asked him actually to write his birth mother a letter introducing himself. It took me probably about a week to write the introductory letter because I think for like six and a half days it sat at, hello, my name is Aaron, for six and a half days. Because, you know, every time I went to type something, I was like, what the hell do I even say?
21:10And he really thought this letter through. He showed it to friends. And he wrote this really touching introduction where he talked about himself, his daughter, his family in Michigan and his family members in Tennessee. And then from there, he hasn't really heard anything from his birth mother since. He contacted the adoption agency multiple times. They were very slow to respond. And eventually the person that he was dealing with there apologized and said that they somehow missed his messages or they were having some kind of technical problem. And they said that they called his birth mother back and she did not respond.
21:49So he's still waiting for some kind of answer, some kind of response. What did Aaron want to find out from her? I think he wanted to know what happened and whether the story in his file was true. Was she a 19-year-old woman who felt like he would have a better life if she relinquished him for adoption? Did she feel like she was not able to provide for him? He had always said that if that were the case, he would understand. He really approached this story with very little judgment or condemnation of his purported birth mother, but he wanted answers. and you know he's asked for her contact information he's asked for his contact information be forwarded and he hasn't received for instance her phone number her address as far as he knows his birth mother has his contact information hasn't reached out hasn't responded to his letter as the weeks go by I think his tone has changed a little bit I think he understands that he may never hear from her and he's trying to kind of reckon with that and that he may not get the answers that he wanted.
23:06Maybe my paperwork was exactly, maybe it happened exactly that way. Maybe it didn't. You know, I'll never, I'll never, the only way to really know that is if I were to talk to my birth mother to find out exactly what it was that happened, you know, like was she lied to him? Was I, you know, essentially stolen by the agency or did she actually just give me up when she was 19. You know, I don't know. Kelly, and you're reporting on not just Aaron's stories, but so many other people's stories who are grappling with this. What are you left with? Well, this story and talking to numerous adoptees throughout this reporting process has really left me with this feeling of, you know, sadness for these people, for their birth families, for their adoptive families who are now questioning whether or not the organizations they were dealing with were acting legitimately.
24:01But it also has made me really confront this idea that we have a right to know our true or original identity, our origin story, kind of the lore of our biological family members. This is a fundamental concept that I've come across talking to activists and advocates in the adoptee community, whether or not they're able to find their birth parents or their biological family members in South Korea, they simply want to know what happened to them. And that's something that they should be legally entitled to. And it just hasn't been the case. Even people who have come to terms with the backstory, however tragic it might have been, are now wondering if any of that is even true.
24:53Kelly, thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
25:12Kelly Kasulis Cho is a reporter for The Post based in Seoul. That's it for Post Reports. Thanks for listening. Today's episode was produced by Tadeo Ruiz-Sandoval and Laura Benshoff. It was edited by Maggie Penman. It was mixed by Renny Sronofsky and Sam Baer. I'm Elahey Izadi. We'll be back tomorrow with more stories from The Washington Post.
26:13We'll see you next time. Find it on WashingtonPost.com or in the app.
From the publisher
Over the weekend, South Korea announced it would end private adoptions in the country. This comes after an investigation found human rights abuses by international adoption agencies. Some babies had been taken without their birth parents’ knowledge or consent. Records were falsified. Identities were swapped. Babies were stolen.
Host Elahe Izadi speaks with Seoul-based reporter Kelly Kasulis Cho about how adoption fraud occurred for decades in South Korea. We also hear from a man who is now on a quest to find his biological family.
Today’s show was produced by Tadeo Ruiz Sandoval. It was edited by Maggie Penman and mixed by Rennie Svirnovskiy with help from Sam Bair. Thanks to Bart Schaneman.
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