This Multimillionaire Might Save Your Child - Paul Hutchinson

22:26Paul Hutchinson:In the Alcoholics Anonymous program, the AA program, the 12 steps, four of those steps are very God-centered. In fact, I would argue five or six, but four are very God-centered. In fact, even sexual addictions anonymous are as well. And acknowledging a higher power and acknowledging that I need that extra help to be able to heal through this. And so, again, not a religious conversation, but it's super important that you recognize the power of coming together as a couple. And maybe just sitting down and saying, hey, can we start this conversation with a prayer? Are you good with that? And do so and just bring in that spirit of authenticity and that spirit of gratitude and healing into the conversation.

23:12Paul Hutchinson:And then move forward with, hey, this is some things that happened to me. It doesn't define me. I just want to release it because I've been holding on to it and I don't want to hold on to it anymore.

23:25Charles:right i think that's important with the the factors of it how the human mind works having the conversation i don't care if you believe in god buddha allah the big bang the magic chicken the dancing donkey i really authentically do not care that's irrelevant to me that noun is irrelevant to me but sitting down and saying hey well this is what i'm grateful for today this was what i'm this was what i feel so blessed in whatever it is if you believe in a magic bowl of spaghetti awesome i love that for i don't care just don't make me believe the magic bowl of spaghetti. This is what it is. Having that conversation is this is what I feel blessed for.

23:56Charles:This was the best part of my day. This is what I'm grateful for. This is why I'm grateful for A, B, C, D, and E. It creates this authentic connection. And then from there having that, hey, there's this thing that's holding space on me, yada, yada, I'd like to talk about it. I think something you said is also really important that it doesn't define you. You know, everybody on this planet has done things that God, we wish we wouldn't have done. done we've had things done we wish we wouldn't have had done it it is what it is we've all done that but that doesn't define me any more than a freckle on my butt it just is what it is and having that conversation regrettably the most successful entrepreneurs i know just like the most successful operators i know have all had something all every single one of them either and and abuse isn't just physical right as you were talking about with the situation with these kids are, you know, having pictures and doing that.

24:47Charles:It's, that's completely mental. Abuse is abuse. Motion is abuse, all of that. So we get it from the guy side. My hallucination is for the female side talking and sitting down. It's a similar opening path to that. Is there something that we do differently for the females? If you're an adult female that you would do differently than an adult male?

25:07Paul Hutchinson:Well, I want to, I want to just touch, take just a couple minutes and touch on, on uh on where my healing came from where my um my operators and their wives have and where a lot of women that i have worked with over the years where their their healing has come from so um back up with the audience uh you know i my early 20s i started a company um coaching company that help people. It was a cognitive behavioral therapy program. We had workbooks, audio programs that help change the negative habit patterns of thought that were creating anxiety and depression in the first place. Things like negative self-talk and worry and what is thinking and negative expectations and the perceptions we have of ourselves, our coping skills and dealing with stress.

26:00These are all habits that can be changed.

26:04Paul Hutchinson:The problem is that many of them are deep embedded in our subconscious mind. If you imagine a brick of gold, and this brick of gold is our subconscious, and it's running 95 % of our life is run by this subconscious mind. Now, when we're children, zero to nine, 10 years old, that brick of gold is in a fluid state. It's in a state of neuroplasticity. We're very, very impressionable. We can learn three or four languages at the same time that we can learn how to ride our bike and eat and everything else. And so, so if something happens during those impressionable years, if our, if our uncle abuses us or, or even something simpler, our dad says, Oh, you look ugly and blue, whatever it is in that flow state of that gold bar, those things get deeply embedded and they're very difficult to break out.

26:58Paul Hutchinson:They say it takes 21 days to create a habit, but that's 21 days in chiseling at the surface of this gold bar. If there's something super deep in there, it takes a lot longer, sometimes 10 and 20 years worth of therapy to be able to extract those things that were deeply embedded. There are certain things that we can do to turn that gold bar back into a flow state. There, uh, breath work, uh, you know, I've been a certified breath work, uh, uh, worker for many, many years, uh, meditation. There are certain things that we can do within deep meditation techniques that can, that can help change that.

27:38Paul Hutchinson:You can, um, you can do some everyday positive affirmations and starting to change those negative habit patterns when we were working with the company 35 years ago it took us 12 weeks with a with a personal coach one to two hours a day just to make some real long-term change with people who had debilitating anxiety depression addiction issues that were stemming from some unhealed childhood trauma um 10 years ago i i had some operators some uh i mean i had green berets with 300 missions in Afghanistan who already have PTSD that one undercover mission with us and seeing a menu with children's faces and prices of things they would do for, I mean, it just sent their PTSD off the charts.

28:29Paul Hutchinson:They couldn't deal with it anymore. So we were losing operators as we were funding these operations. And so I delved back into my 35 year ago with my company helping people deal with this stuff the cognitive restructuring and and uh i met some doctors we met uh some of my two of my undercover operators um introduced me to some doctors and some scientists that that were working on the protocol for the proper use and let me let me nail that word guys the proper use of psychedelics when it comes to healing from childhood trauma, anxiety, depression, PTSD, etc. Now, let me get it straight right now.

29:13Paul Hutchinson:I am not a fan whatsoever of us legalizing magic mushrooms and your kids going to a rave party and getting high with their friends. This is not only a bad idea, it's dangerous. Why? Because what happens is things like psilocybin in the mushrooms, it creates a temporary state of neuroplasticity, like when you were a kid, turns that gold bar into a flow state. And if you're at a rave party and you've got rap music going over here and somebody yelling at their wife over here, orgy going on over there, and you're in that super impressionable state, it's super dangerous for you. However, if you have a trained facilitator who knows how to work through some of that trauma and the right music, the right intentions coming into it, you can literally create 10 and 20 years worth of therapy in 24 to 48 hours.

30:05Paul Hutchinson:And so the laws will change in the U.S. over the next two years. And it's so important that we have a little bit of a discussion as to what responsible adults can do to help them help others help their loved ones release some of that trauma that have been deeply embedded in that gold bar of their subconscious mind. Yeah.

30:28Charles:And we really want to speak on this because I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. It's just I've always been that way. I can't drink. I take three sips of it. Comes right back out. It's a gift from my grandmother. Thank you, grandma. I love it. But in this environment, we're not talking about, let's go buy this and do it on your home, sitting on the couch. This is scientific backs things that have multiple studies for decades that are in controlled environments based on your weight, your blood work, everything that's involved. This is very, very specific. I want to make sure, again, this is not medical advice on the show, but going through and doing this with someone who is a trained professional, who's done this for an exceptional, like I wouldn't take 700 Tylenols in the morning, probably not going to work out so well, but there are measurements that we, we based it and we, there is science and people are going to do it because people think, oh, I'm going to take this thing.

31:20Charles:People have PTSD and they take ayahuasca or MDMA or whatever the laundry list is in the middle of a jungle while they're licking the butt of a frog. I'm like, what are you doing? no no no no no no no there are very specific things you could do in a controlled environment where we know hey it's like building a lego piece i've got my instruction manual let me try and put it together step by step by step and leverage the science please understand if you're listening to this right now we're not telling you to go lick the back of frogs and drink a bunch of lsd or whatever you do with lsd i have no idea we're not telling you to do that what we're trying to say is there is professional options out there.

31:58Charles:Go through the therapy process, see if you qualify, do the blood work, find a trained professional who's done it for an exceptionally long period of time. That's a healthy environment because one of my, one of my dear friends who's got TBI and he's got PTSD has done some of this stuff. And he came to me and he goes, okay, it doesn't fix it, but at least points my car in the right direction. So I can start heading and taking the next step by step by step by step by step path. This is the same thing with cold plunges. People are like, I'm going to do a cold plunge. I'm like, I love cold plunges.

32:28Charles:They're great. They're like, I'm going to do it for four hours. I'm like, that's probably not going to work out so well. So working through that, like I grew up in South Florida, so I'm saturated with mold. So my doctor's like, you're not doing cold plunges anymore, chief. You got to get an IR sauna and get it out, not contain it. I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. So there is science behind all of this that we're trying to pivot around. So again, Paul's being very, very purposeful here. We're being very honest, but don't go to the local guy down the street and be like, Hey, can I have seven gallons of this and drink it?

32:59Charles:You'll fucking die. Don't do that. Work with someone in a very trained way because it, and it's not a fix and it's just starting the process and moving things around. You can't just keep doing it over and over again and thinking that magically everything's going to be fine. There's still a lot of work and a lot of therapy and therapy is the gift you give to yourself. Just, it is what it is. So if we've got -

33:19Paul Hutchinson:I couldn't have said it better.

33:22Charles:If we've got adults, so we've got kind of the adults, right? You get in the therapy, you talk to someone, you understand that it doesn't identify you. It doesn't label that this is not who you are. Like I used to play some of my professional baseball. I can't throw a baseball anymore. I probably could. It just would be embarrassing. I'm like, that was 60 miles an hour. That's embarrassing. But that's not who I am anymore. It is what it is. We understand that this is here. I want to talk about what we could do for the kids. You talked about, hey, there's this game. You can do this. What are the warning signs that, because there's a lot of single families, regrettably, I mean, marriage is bombing out around 60 something percent at this point.

33:56Charles:There's a lot of broken homes. I come from a broken home, multiple divorces. I'm very blessed. None of that thing's happened to me. But as a parent right now who is watching the system completely disregard what is happening to these children who are menu items at this point, what are the things that a parent can sit there and say, hey, what do I need to look out for with my kid? How do I do this? How do I create it? How do I become the sanctuary for my child to come to? And then how do I, because they're not going to come to us because some of them don't know if it's good or bad at this point.

34:26Charles:This is just there. It is what it is. How do I identify what's going on with my kids? Are there certain telltale signs? And the reason I bring this up, I know I'm talking way too much here, uh, is when the whole situation with Colabon happened. They're like, oh, it's because they're playing this video game and listening to this music. I was like, time out. I'm playing to those video games. I'm listening to that music. I have access to weaponry. Like, I didn't shoot up my school. So you can't say this is everything. So what are the signs that kind of lead us to where we're going and that we can look out for for our kids?

34:57Paul Hutchinson:Well, number one, you know, if your 12, 13-year-old daughter goes from being a super outgoing to recluse, a lot of parents think, oh, well, you know, she's coming of age. You know, maybe, maybe, you know, she's going into puberty and those emotional changes. No, more likely it's some other things that are going on, but she doesn't want to talk about it. Now, more important than looking for the signs of, of abuse. It's if we can prevent it before it happens, that is everything. Parents, you know, we don't, we don't want to wait until your daughter has gone through that. We don't want to wait until your son has gone through some sextortion thing online.

35:47Paul Hutchinson:We don't want to wait for that. Take the time. Take the time to talk to them. Take the time to sit down and have the important conversations. Your six-year-old, seven-year-old has probably already seen pornography on his friend's phone. So you've got to start having these conversations young. Parents are like, you know, let's wait until they're old enough to really make a difference. No, at five years old, they need to be having the conversation about what's appropriate and what's not. And so that they can, once you have that conversation, you can say, hey, can you come to me if that ever, ever happens?

36:25Paul Hutchinson:If anybody ever tries to say that you should trust them more than us, if anybody says that, that tries to show you pornography, if anybody, you know, touches you in an inappropriate way, any of these things, can you feel comfortable in coming to us and talking to us about that? you're not going to be in trouble. I promise you, you're not going to be in trouble. But it's important that we keep you safe because otherwise some of these things are going to be super heavy for you to have to work through on your own. And so having those conversations early, teaching your kids to be very verbal, teaching them how to say no, how to, you know, if something happens, yell no as loud as they can because the predators are looking for kids who are going to be docile, quiet.

37:11Paul Hutchinson:In fact, there's a lot of stuff. The movie Sound of Freedom gives an awareness. In the book, I did everything I could to give parents the tools they need to keep their kids safe. In the beginning section, it's all on that making of an undercover operator, talking, but in there, every single paragraph are things parents can do, training us what to look for and how to identify when trafficking is going on. Training us on self-defense. You know, I've had guys that come to me and they say, okay, you know, I can't be with my kids all the time. You know, how do I, do I just have a security person with them always?

37:51Paul Hutchinson:No. Having those conversations where they can be loud and they can be verbal about it. They know what's going on. And put your kids through some kind of self-defense stuff. It helps their confidence and puts them in a situation where they're not going to be a victim. I suggest Krav Maga. So I is one of the reasons why, you know, most of me and most of my operators were Krav Maga trained. Now, for you guys who don't know Krav, it's Israeli special forces hand to hand combat training. And it's the most lethal on earth. It's not vow to your sensei and three points when you kick him in the leg. It's brick to their head.

38:28Paul Hutchinson:Go home to your family. And every move, they don't talk. They don't walk. They don't see, etc. etc we were trained to take away a gun faster than people could pull the trigger every time now my daughter my daughter um she's 100 pounds if that she about seven years ago she wanted to travel and and train around the world in holistic um keeling stuff she wanted to go to peru by herself and to mexico and i said sweet i says let me i know she was 21 years old at the time but she looked like she was 16. So I says, let me send security with you. She said, dad, I've been training. I said, okay, show me, show me.

39:06Paul Hutchinson:And I, I put the mitts on. I says, okay, let's go. She goes, do higher. Now I'm six feet high, right? She says above your head. I put it up here. This little girl at five foot three, boom, jumps up and kicks that thing clean out of my hand above my head. I said, all right, yeah, you can go. I'm good with that. Cause she, she is confident in any situation because she's gone through the training so put your kids through something where they can defend themselves teach them what's appropriate and what's not have the conversation where they can very comfortably come to you and tell you anytime something is off

39:44Charles:so one of the reasons i like krav mcgraw versus jitsu versus sistema or versus any of those is the speed to pick up the basic skills it's one of the great things about krav mcgraw you don't have to spend 30 years, 20 years, an entire year doing this. You can go do it very, very quickly that you will be a different human being about 48 hours after you get a hold of some of this stuff. They're going to get you through the basics. And are you going to beat someone who's really well trained? Probably not. But is it going to give you a good chance? Yeah, it's going to give you a really good chance.

40:13Charles:So doing the Kronnberg, getting through that, if you want to elevate into Sistema or Jiu-Jitsu, it just takes more time in those environments and with those disciplines. it's also teaching you your worth, your confidence, 100%. So, you know, we've got to speak to people, get some sort of training, be verbal, have a place that's going home. There's a lot of people who want to use technology to help us out. So installing routers that block certain things, you know, putting your things, tracking your phones, putting an AirPod or what are they called? The little discs, you know, in their nose and tracking them all around.

40:45Charles:What are the things that actually work because that we can, you know, this is the best way to track your kids. This is the best way to make sure your kids aren't doing this? Because I think the most shocking thing you've said so far is they come home and they sleep in your beds at night. They're in your house. I always thought that these things are happening without their interaction with you. They're not actually in your home. So that's, having seen that, what are the things we can do? Are there any technologies that work to help us out with this?

41:11Paul Hutchinson:Absolutely. You know, there's plenty of things that you can put, number one, just to keep your kids out of the pornography world. There's a lot of protections that you can put on your phones, on your computers. Make sure that the computers in your home are in public places. You know, have a little desk in the kitchen area. Don't have your son's laptop behind his locked door in his bedroom. And have some filters that are on those as well. But, you know, there's only so much you can do without our kids figuring out how to get around it? You know, the conversations, I go back to that over and over again, having the conversations with them about why, why these things are dangerous, why these things will take us down a dark road and desensitize us, et cetera.

42:02Paul Hutchinson:And it's important also to pay attention to not only the internet and things like that, but everything that's coming into your home. A little side story that I think your listeners will enjoy knowing um the the distribution company that we went with for the sound of freedom was is called angel studios and it's because for years we had finished sound of freedom five years before it came out and could not get distribution why because the narrative was something that hollywood and big media did not want us to have these conversations why because there's so much of that crap going on there um we were we were blocked by disney disney bought out uh fox international that had the distribution rights and we could not get distribution with with them holding the distribution rights later we had a former disney executive that tied it up another and people said what you know disney yes these guys were were tying this up which was crazy to me now moving forward that did if you go if you go back in history for angel studios they actually got sued by hollywood years ago their predecessor company why because they had created a piece of hardware and software it was kind of like a little dv dvr player that that gave you and i as responsible parents the ability to tune down whatever was on the the movie there was there was a blasphemy switch.

43:39Paul Hutchinson:There was a nudity one. There was a blood and gore violence one, right? And you could take it from 10 all the way down to one. You could take a rated R NC-17 movie and make it a G one by just moving those things down. And Hollywood sued them simply for creating a product that allowed us to filter what was coming into our homes. This is important to know when you're when you're trying to understand the narrative, the plan of a lot of these things. And so we need to pay attention. We need, you know, I, for years, for years, I loved Will Smith movies. I loved him. He was a great actor until I started paying attention to the number of P.

44:20Paul Hutchinson:Diddy parties he was at and what his wife walked in on him doing and who was at some of those parties, et cetera. I just, I simply cannot support movies now that are putting money in pockets of people who are who are so far out of alignment with the principles that I want to teach my family and my children. And so paying attention to everything that's coming into your home and not just the internet, but the movies, et cetera, and how they're affecting your family.

44:48Charles:So on the tech side, we do have the ability with proxies and things of that nature. We can block things out. We could also track things as well. I think most of the problem with parents or anyone is like, oh, I'm going to track it or I'm going to block it. That's going to fix it. And I think to your point, your kid at five years old has already seen porn on the other five-year-old kids. So like, well, I'm going to take away the phone. That's what world are you preparing them for? There's going to be phones. There's going to be screens. You know, kids, we already know that we spent a third of our life sleeping.

45:17Charles:We now know that kids born now will spend a third of their life on a screen. It's a terrifying thing. So you're not going to get them away from it. It's going to be there. So yeah, you can monitor it to keep it up. But if you're blocking it, like, oh, I'm not going to give you a phone or you can't do this versus, okay, we're going to have this conversation. I grew up around guns. It is what it is. I wish I lived in a world where we didn't need guns. I really do. That would be amazing. I wish I lived in a world that we didn't need to have wars or tanks or that would be great. But I do live in a world that has that.

45:44Charles:So I'd much rather be educated on it, on how to use it because they're not going anywhere. So it's not, is it legal? Is it not legal? A ton of things are illegal. The things that you went and you fought against are illegal. It doesn't mean it stops it. the only thing that can help it is education so there is ways to monitor there is a way to keep this but don't think that's going to fix it if you block all the porn in your house i guarantee you they're gonna figure it out they're gonna find a way around it if you block the video games they're gonna figure it just like you found a way to avoid the stuff that your parents didn't want you to do either right it just is what it is so fucking sorry sorry dad um she was cute i had to go sorry forgot that it is what it is this is what we do so being there and having the conversations are important.

46:30Charles:Now, we talked about training. We talked about monitoring. We talked about keeping an eye on it. What are the things that are the myths that people believe that are hard coded that, oh, if this, then that, the post hoc ergo proctor hoc, the of therefore because of it. What are the things that people believe completely that this is true? Therefore, this happens. And it's just wrong.

46:51Paul Hutchinson:Well, number one, believing that trafficking doesn't happen in our neighborhoods, that children are safe there, that it only happens in Mexico or Thailand or Colombia or whatever. The truth is this, you walk out your front door, I don't care if you're in an apartment complex or an affluent neighborhood, you walk out your front door, you look down left and you look right, there's a high chance that one of those neighbors is a dangerous place for children. Okay. Now, does that mean that we have to be a helicopter mom, helicopter dad all the time? No, it means that we need to have those healthy conversations with our kids because they're going to end up down the hall.

47:31Paul Hutchinson:They're going to be down the street. And it's so important that we, that we, we have those conversations. Number two, have, don't be letting your kids having sleepovers.

47:41Charles:Guys, that is not a good idea unless you really, really, really know that family and,

47:47Paul Hutchinson:and where they are. Sleepovers is a bad idea. This stuff happens all the time there. And it also is a big myth that it only happens to girls. No, there's a huge number of boys. The problem is the boys never talk about it. And so understanding that they're as much of a risk as the girls are and recognizing that and having those conversations with them. Another myth is that, um oh we got we got a whole bunch of them i i'll i'll tell you some real life examples of of undercover operations i was in um i was running an operation in cancun uh it was over over new years and uh we i had done two weeks of undercover that they had identified there was a lot of trafficking some kids that were brought in from different areas of mexico to supply the party goers that were going to be there uh over new year's and uh at the time you know i had a i had i wasn't married i had an ex uh girlfriend that she wanted to bring she wanted to be with me over new year's i'm like i'm in the middle of this freaking operation i can't so she flew down there with her her cousin um and uh they they were down there just kind of playing and whatever else i made sure they were away from the big city and a little private um uh very secure area but they were posting her cousin was posting things online hey we're in cancun whatever else well i came back with from from the operation area and that night she said hey paul look at this this this guy wants he says that he's a guide and he wants to take us on a free ride on his boat and uh and he can just take us around anywhere well the guy he showed me she showed me was the one of the traffickers that was providing kids as young as seven years old.

49:43Paul Hutchinson:And what was happening is he was also, some of the victims that he had were, he was scouring the internet, identifying anybody who was posting that looked like they were there without parents. And he would take them and based on his conversation with them and how vulnerable they were, he would take their passport and their phone and drug them and boom, bring them into this horrific trade. And so your kids do not need to have the entire world knowing where they're checking in all the time. On their social media, you can't get them away from their social media. You're going to make them a dummy at school if they don't have any, but make it so that the only people that can actually see what they're doing each day and where they are are people who are their verified real friends.

50:36Paul Hutchinson:Don't have that open up. This takes a few minutes of your time, parents, to go on and manage the settings on their social media so that it is not open to the general public because predators are everywhere scouring on their social media to identify victims.

50:54Charles:The other thing I tell people is you can absolutely 1000 % post pictures of your vacation and how excited it is. Just wait a couple of weeks till your vacation is over and then post it. Don't post it while you're there. Because all you're doing in that situation is telling me you're not at home. I could break into your home and exactly where you are, what you're doing, I could break into your hotel. So just get a time delay. You can post it. Just wait a little. There's a myth on the internet, and I don't know if it's myth or fact, where they were interviewing a absolute waste of human flesh predator who was hunting children.

51:27Charles:And they asked him, they said, what is the indicator? What did you look for in the children that did it. So I wasn't looking at the children. I was looking at the father. Is the father a threat? And that was the deterrent. If I was going to go after the child, is that myth or is that fact?

51:43Paul Hutchinson:No, that's an absolute fact. You know, I, in fact, I talk about a lot of that in the sound of freedom book. I talk about, uh, what predators look for in their, in their victims. And absolutely. Uh, you know, uh, uh, a child who the father is absent is a way more of an opportunity for, for a predator than one where the father is, is very present. Um, and present, not just still married to the mom, but emotionally present, physically present, right? Go, go pick up your kids from dance guys, be, be there and, and make sure that, that guys, that the other guys that are there with their kids, you know, aren't looking around trying to figure out which of these kids don't have a dad.

52:28Paul Hutchinson:Now you're there. Hey, you know, I'm here. I'm holding space for my kid. In addition to that, teach your kids awareness. You know, so many times kids are walking around, they've got their headphones on, they've got their phones down, they're completely distracted and are not aware of anything going on around them when you're out in a public situation that the um they they did some studies with with felons who had committed some heinous crimes against children and they showed um videos or pictures of people in public situations and and asked them the predators who would you choose as your victim and it was almost 90 plus of them all would choose the same one based on how insecure they looked how they were walking how distracted they were how how they weren't with other friends etc they they seemed alone they were they almost inevitably they were picking out the same victim on all of these videos because of the fact that these kids were were not trained to be able to deal with life in a public situation.

53:42Charles:So, so how, so give me a way to do that. Cause I love situational awareness. I've had it my entire life. It's something that was, cause I grew up in, we're going to, my home was very safe, but outside of my home was not. So I had to have my head on a swivel and build situational awareness very, very early on. It's one of my favorite things in the world that's been taught. If you haven't had that, if it's not part of your core, part of who you are and how your ethos is, how do you train situational awareness? If you're, it's brand new to you.

54:08Paul Hutchinson:we actually have because I feel this is so important we have free things available on the Liberating Humanity website I have some training on there I got by the name of Steve Terani Steve is one of the top situational awareness trainers in the world he's also one of the top edged weapons and improvised weapons trainers he trains CIA, FBI, Secret Service And I had extensive training with him. In fact, most of my operators as well. Because when you're in those darks, when you're at 2 a.m. downtown Port-au-Prince, Haiti, the darkest, most dangerous city on the planet right now. Well, I guess now Porto Vallarta is kind of getting up there.

54:52Paul Hutchinson:But you have to understand situational awareness. 95 % of the times where you had to go to fists, you had to go to your hard skills, 95 % of those could have been avoided if you knew what to look for before it happened. And there's a book that I had my operators read called The Gift of Fear. Now, what it talks about, it talks about the thousands and thousands of things that your subconscious mind is picking up all the time and the importance of listening to your gut. Because your conscious mind, there's just a little thin, thin part of your world that you're paying attention to. Your subconscious mind out of your peripheral, as you were walking into that restaurant, your subconscious mind picked up the fact that there was a guy down that alley that had a big coat on that was too heavy for the heat of the day.

55:46Paul Hutchinson:and look, but your conscious mind wasn't paying attention because you're late for this meeting in here, right? Your subconscious mind can pick up on the, the, the change of the noise level. When you're sitting there at the, at the Starbucks and you're engaged in a conversation, your, your subconscious is going to pick up the fact that somebody was arguing in the corner. It kind of got quiet as somebody walked in, whatever, just trust it, trust that gut instinct because it's coming from information way beyond what your conscious mind is.

56:15Charles:100 and it comes from this idea that it was built to keep you from being eaten by lions that's where this comes from we're talking thousands of years of this so you might want to listen to it because if you're sitting you're getting little hairs on the back of your neck like oh because it was designed to you don't want to become prey and there are people who are actively 1000 hunting you so yeah the next thing i want to talk about you know we've talked about okay you're an adult we're talking about kids what are the things because you can't always be there, right? This is the problem with the helicopter theory.

56:45Charles:They're like, oh, I'm going to be around my kids 24 hours a day, seven days a week. No, no, no, no. It's adorable that you think that, but no, it's like, it's like the people who think the earth is flat. I'm like, oh, that's adorable. Go away. So since you have this absolute crazy illusion, what are the things that you can have on yourself? What are the, you know, I'm going to have sit rep. I'm going to have a situational awareness. I've been relatively trained. What are the things that you're going to want to physically carry upon you? Because I always carry very, my everyday carry has very specific things on it always i've designed it it's a very specific way if i'm going to certain environments i know not to wear certain watches i when i travel and i'm internationally traveling you will never see me with my fancy watches i'm normally wearing a beat-up casio because a i love it it's amazing but b it i'm changing the optics of people looking at me because if i walk out with my brightland or my rolex or my whatever it is i'm a target now So I know to change certain watches because I've been taught by people from the IDF and they sat down with me and I brought my luggage.

57:44Charles:They're like, yeah, all of that's going away. I'm like, why? They're like, well, that's an$800 luggage. You are now a screaming target. I was like, what are we going to, like, congratulations, we're going to the army surface floor. I'm like, seriously? He's like, yeah, everything's going to cost 100 bucks. And I was like, what the hell? Like, I look like a bum. They're like, uh-huh. So one of those things, and it works, because if you're walking along with a perfectly pair of Ray-Bans, you're a target, dude. This is what it is. Go to the gas station, get a pair. $9 glasses. Sorry. Suck it up and deal.

58:10Charles:What are the things on your everyday carry that you've learned that a parent should have on them? A teenager should have on them, or even a kid maybe should have on them that it gives them a better chance of, of not being coming a victim.

58:24Paul Hutchinson:Well, I I'll say that, um, what I carry is a different in my environment and where I'm traveling. You know, if I, when I'm in the U S especially in, in, uh, in states that I can conceal. I have a Glock on me always. One of my trainers said, Paul, he says, what's the most important thing to have in a gunfight? A gun, right? And he said, and you're trained enough. Now, if you don't have the training, then don't be carrying it. He says, you're trained enough that it is your responsibility to have one with you because of the training that you have. Can you imagine being in a situation where now you need it and you don't have the ability to neutralize that threat?

59:06Paul Hutchinson:Now, moving on from there, a lot of the things that having a blade weapon and knowing how to use it was something that now we can have that and carry it in different states, different countries and whatnot where I couldn't carry a gun. And that's why getting trained on the effective use of that is super important. Now, I had one of my undercover operators. He was stabbed 27 times and he's still alive. Now, it's because he knew how to be able to keep that away from his vitals, etc. Now, beyond that, I had my operators always carry with them a tourniquet. Now you wonder why a tourniquet. Now this is knowing how to use something like that.

59:52Paul Hutchinson:And if, if, uh, it was funny, we had one of our CIA trainers years ago that we were in a room and he said, he said, guys, how many of you have a first aid kit in your car? And, you know, a few of us raised our hands and, and he said, uh, what's in that first aid kit. And I, I jokingly said, I said, uh, band-aids and Neosporin, right? And he said, his exact words, he said, he said if you have he said if band-aids and neosporin can fix your problem then you don't have a problem a thousand percent and the majority of people who die in an accident either a car accident or a night accident or whatever the majority of them would still be alive today if within the next three or four minutes after the accident happened somebody who knew how to open the airways and have the tools knew how to stop the bleeding and have the tools was there and stopped it is most of those people would be alive today and so i had one of i i required our teams to have that knowledge and we had one of our operators one of our guys who would be dead today if it wasn't for the fact that the guy that was next to him had a tourniquet knew how to use it boom applied that and and that the surgeon we got to the hospital said he wouldn't have made it if he if he hadn't had the right care and so you know things like that just those are physical things but but it's important too we live in a world where you never know and you don't want to be to the point later on in life you're like man if i had known if i had taken a half an hour course and learn how to properly apply a tourniquet or learn how to open that airway my child would be alive today guys it's worth a half an hour of your time to learn that stuff and to buy it and have it on you at all times.

1:01:38Charles:I remember the first time I did knife training and the instructor came out, he goes, all right, for everyone who's playing, you have to accept if it gets to this point, you're going to get wet. It just, it's going to get wet. It's just, you're going to bleed. You just need to accept it. You just have to decide where that's going to be. And I remember someone said this and actually I'll steal it from Jocko. Individual Jocko Willis, still team three Brutus company. They said, what is your most important thing in a fight? He goes, your shoelace is being tied. He goes, cause I'm going to do everything possible to get away as fast as I possibly do.

1:02:07Charles:I don't want to fight you. I do not. It's the last thing I want to do. So having shoes that have laces on them, it blows people's minds. If you cannot physically move quickly, then you have a problem. So this is a SEAL commander who said this. Now, once you get by that, it's the training. There's a mistake that people make all the time when they have weapons or they have knives or they have guns. If you haven't been properly trained in any sort of hand-to-hand combat, how to discharge the weapon, how to shoot with different hands, if your eyes messed up or how to discharge it, bear spray. Just get bear spray.

1:02:40Charles:Don't go and get a shotgun because, you know, specifically here in the United States, I'm responsible from when the bullet leaves the barrel to when it stops. So if I discharge my firearm and it goes through this wall and kills little Susie on the other side of the wall as I was being attacked by a monster, I am responsible for it until that weapon, until that projectile comes to rest. And that's an important conversation. So if you haven't been trained on that level, don't use mace. I've been sprayed with mace in training exercises. I can still kill you if you spray me with mace. You hit me with bear spray?

1:03:13Charles:That's the end of that conversation. I'm not doing very well. That conversation ends really fast. And people are like, well, I'm going to get it on me too. So the threat stopped. You got hit with it. I'd rather deal with some really uncomfortable days than the other stuff that happens. So having those things that make sense. Now, obviously, we're not going to give... Sargo?

1:03:32Paul Hutchinson:no i was gonna do a quick follow-up on your your uh your get out of the situation steve trani the one that the situational awareness that one of the top edged weapons trainers he he has what he calls that the nike move heels your nike heels to the attacker and get out if i don't care he says guys i don't care if you are the number one mma fighter on the planet i don't care i don't care what your training is on anything you win every fight you can avoid and and don't let your ego think oh you know i can i can handle these guys i can have this you don't know you don't know what what you know my my trainer my trainer showed me he's like he's like all right let me let me show you something to just kind of get this into place you know there there this guy was was thinking he was all big and he was good he was really good and he took this guy down because this guy was bowling him or whatever else.

1:04:24Paul Hutchinson:Well, the guy just kind of had one hand left and he reached in his pocket, grabbed out a knife, boom, boom, boom. That guy didn't make it. You know, get out of the situation. If you can remove yourself, your family from the situation safely, do so. And, but yeah, I love your idea of bear spray. I actually have bear spray in our motor home, not just for bears, you know, for those situations. We, you know, I have a taser, but you know, I've been tased before by my own taser and that kind of puts me out of commission at the same time.

1:04:51Charles:All of us have been tased by our own taser once. So just let's get that out of the way. Now it is not fun. It is embarrassing. We've all done it. But we talk about this all the time. You can't outrun physics. If I discharge a weapon and it hits your body, I don't care how trained you are. I don't care how trained you are. You are not going to survive things penetrating your body. So get the heck out of Dodge as quickly as you can. Avoid the fight. Because you might be able to beat the guy. You might be able to beat his four friends. But what about the guy on the balcony who's got a firearm matching?

1:05:21Charles:You're never going to get away from that. So avoid it as fast as possible. So that's the adult side. For the kids, what should we, like we, there's something called a monkey ball. Are you familiar with a monkey ball? So it's a way that you wrap a specific corded thing. They're called monkey parts. It's a corded thing. It's a thing. It's a little ball there. You crack some with it. It won't be bad. So we carry it and it's complete yarn. It's monkey ball. Sometimes there's a marble inside. They're called monkey balls. Not in a weird way, but that's what they're called. Those are things that when I was a teenager, I had on a key chain.

1:05:50Charles:because I wasn't allowed to carry knives at school. So I got trained on how to use what's known as a monkey ball, how to use it and work through all of those things. Because what I wanted to carry to school was a tank, but they wouldn't let me have a tank in school. Jerks. So, but, you know, using those little things. So if you're looking at kids and they're trying to do this, I know there's settings that I do on my iPhone, just in case my iPhone gets stolen, which is so important because they have all of your information and they hack it and have to get your passwords and your private pictures and all of that.

1:06:21Charles:understanding that if you do send something over the internet, congratulations, sooner or later, it's going to get public. Just, it is what it is. It is accepted. It's part of the game. It's a surprise. But with kids, what can we give them so that they could have it on every day? Do we want to put those air tags on them? What do you recommend?

1:06:40Paul Hutchinson:Yeah, well, first of all, we use the Find My Friends on, our whole family always has Find My Friends on. And so we can always be seeing where each other is, et cetera. air tags are great as well you know we have the air tag in the in the kids backpacks now i will also say this there are things that you don't want parents don't put your son's name on his backpack that that by having you know billy on the backpack or whatever a predator could very easily say hey billy oh yeah yeah you know me yeah yeah your mom said for me to come and get you you know that that's this is common so if you want to put initials there that's great don't put their whole name there.

1:07:19Paul Hutchinson:Also, have a code word, have a, have a, a code word that if anybody comes to pick you up at school and says that, Hey, your mom's in the hospital, I'm supposed to come and pick you up. You say, what's the code word? You know, it can be something simpler. You know, our code word for years was marshmallow with our kids, right? If something happened where they needed to know that, yes, indeed, mom sent somebody, whatever else it was, they would say, what's the code word? or the cold words marshmallow. Okay, great. You know, now I know. Super simple for them to understand where that communication gap wouldn't be there for a predator to be able to get in the door, right?

1:07:55Paul Hutchinson:And so -

1:07:56Charles:I love what you said about the name because what we did when I was growing up is we didn't do the names. Instead, what we did was we had a sticker. So we had, he would sew something in the little patches that we would have. And that way I knew that patch was my stuff and we never did names. We did it by a patch because that's how we did it. It was easier. And I still, to this day, remember my code word and no, I'm not saying it live on the air. So absolutely not. We'll say it was marshmallow. We'll go with that. I remember mine from when I was a kid. He absolutely had it. So, and I remember my neighbor from across the street, his name is Frank Fort.

1:08:30Charles:He died in Miami. I was a sportscaster. He came and picked me up one day from school and because I got very sick and I'm like, what's the code word? And he was like, and he had to call my dad and say, what is the code word? Here it is. And this is before, you know, cell phones. So he's sitting in the school. I'm like, I can't go with you. And I'm throwing up all over myself. I was told I can't do this because I was taught very early on. So it was so bad. It was so embarrassing. So what about, what are the other things that are like gateways to these problems? So we know what we do avoid it, but what are the things that, you know, we talk about pot being a gateway to, you know, other things, which you want to smoke pot, please just eat it.

1:09:10Charles:Cause I don't want to smell it. It smells so bad. Please on my behalf, everybody else on the planet, quit smoking pot around me, just eat it. Cause Oh, you stink. Anyway, back to this. What is a gateway? What are the things like, Oh, the chances, if you do that, the chances that you're going to run into this go up exponentially.

1:09:28Paul Hutchinson:Well, first of all, you know, I, I would say that, that, uh, kids that that are on their online gaming platforms that, that regularly put themselves out there to, you know, in their conversations and move those conversations from the gaming platform over to a WhatsApp or something like that, that there's, there's a, it's a telltale sign right there. It happens a lot. That's how the predators move them around. And, and in, in it, yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's crazy. Yeah. And there's, there's, going to

1:10:10Paul Hutchinson:we've seen a lot of kids that especially in the second third world countries, places in Mexico these poor kids in these poor neighborhoods they'll anytime they'll get addicted to drugs a lot of times the predators will get them the drug gateways are also predator gateways to other things, right? So if they can get your little Johnny to start smoking and then take some marijuana and whatever, hey, your dad's going to be super mad at you, but this is our secret, right? Well, then this is our secret turns into more this is our secrets. And the drugs inevitably will, and alcohol as well, you know, anytime that you can get a child in that kind of a situation where not only are you numbing their senses, but you're also making them feel guilt and shame.

1:11:06Paul Hutchinson:And hey, that's okay. This is our secret. We won't tell your dad. You won't tell your dad. No, no. And so those are absolutely gateways to physical and sexual abuse as well. Because it's important to know that well over 90 % of children who are sexually abused and even ones who are sold for sex over 90 of them it was familial it was a family member we we had one operation where um this little girl was was just barely turned she was 12 years old and um she was being sold by her aunt her aunt was working with the traffickers the mother had no idea the aunt was babysitting her showing her pornography and told her listen you're going to lose your virginity sometime anyway if you come to this party and lose it to these guys then i'll pay you five hundred dollars she was charging us five thousand dollars for for this little 12 year old and she had already been desensitized because her aunt had been giving her drugs had been showing her pornography had been you know trust me more than your mom you know all of this stuff and so this this happens a lot and this was her aunt so now that i want to go through so those are all

1:12:23Charles:gateways yeah those are so it's hard to pivot this quickly if there's so much out there there's so much you've experienced and there's so much you know and you how do people find out more because we could probably talk for the next seven eight hours where do they find your book where do they listen to it and then for the people like me who want to just go kill everyone uh how can we help what's what's a more responsible way of helping other than getting on a plane and running around and just randomly shooting people in the back of the head that touch children uh which i think is a responsible thing to do just just anyway how do we track you down paul how do we how do we connect with you how do we support how do we keep our kids safe what's the best way to get information and find you.

1:13:11Paul Hutchinson:Thank you, Charles. A couple things. Number one, liberating humanity. Liberating humanity is on all social media. You can go to Instagram, Facebook. I think by LinkedIn, it's just my name, Paul Hutchinson, but liberating humanity will find you there. And you can get information there on everything from the Steve Charani's training to the healing retreats to even the book Sound of Freedom. And even my new book that's coming out within the next couple months called Your Infinite Wealth. We'll talk about that on a whole different podcast on the golden age of conscious capitalism. But the Sound of Freedom book is available on Amazon.

1:13:57Paul Hutchinson:And we are working right now on the audio version for guys like you and me who hate to spend time just holding the book. And I want to just put it on 2X and go through it. So we're almost done with the audio version of Sound of Freedom. And I'll get that to you as well.

1:14:13Charles:Perfect. Paul, thank you so much for doing this and for what you're doing and protecting those little ones and hopefully arranging those meetings that you and I both want to arrange all the time to let someone else fetch that. I just want to arrange all the meetings as possible. I really appreciate it. Thank you for coming on.

1:14:27Paul Hutchinson:Well, thank you. One last website is if you want to go directly to help the kids, go to childliberation.org. So liberatinghumanity.com or childliberation.org. You can get directly involved with what we're doing to help the kids. Perfect.

1:14:43Charles:Thank you so much, Paul. I appreciate it. That's a wrap on another episode of The Proven Podcast. Positioning beats noise. Clarity beats volume. Stop reacting to headlines. Start shaping the narrative. While others chase attention, you could be building authority. Remember, if you don't control your message, the market will control it for you.