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Episode Summary Title: Redfin: The Great Housing Market “Reset” Starts in 2026 Description: Chen Zhao, Redfin's head of economics research, discusses 11 predictions regarding the housing market in 2026, highlighting a significant reset that could lead to improved affordability and market normalcy. The discussion covers mortgage rates, home prices, rental growth, and the influence of AI in real estate.
Key Points Discussed
- Predictions for 2026 Housing Market:
- Affordability Improvement:
- Expectation of slow enhancements in affordability for homebuyers.
- The shift from a seller's market to a buyer's market is making home prices grow slower than wages, leading to improved affordability.
- Mortgage Rates:
- Predicted to remain stable in the low sixes, unlikely to drop significantly or rise above seven.
- Fed's actions and economic balance will influence mortgage rates.
- Home Prices:
- Anticipated to increase slowly, reflecting a market adjustment rather than drastic declines.
- Delisting trends indicate sellers are reluctant to list at lower prices, stabilizing the market.
- Rental Market:
- Rents expected to slightly increase by late 2026 due to decreased multifamily construction and increased demand from prospective buyers opting to rent.
- Sales Volume:
- Forecasted slight increase in home sales volume (from 4.1 million to 4.2 million) but remains historically low.
- Regional Market Predictions:
- Strong markets expected in suburban New York and affordable Midwest metros.
- Weaker markets anticipated in Sunbelt regions like Florida and Texas due to high inventory and low demand.
- Social Trends:
- Climate migration influencing local housing choices, with adjustments in insurance affecting where buyers choose to live.
- Increased refi and remodeling activity anticipated due to rising equity and mortgage rates.
- Policy and Industry Changes:
- Housing affordability will become a key policy issue, with proposals likely to emerge, though challenges in building more supply persist.
- Redfin's integration of AI into real estate functions, particularly in home search and matching buyers with properties, is expected to grow.
Notable Quotes
- "Affordability is the big challenge for the housing market."
- "Home prices might increase 1%-3%, but that would still be slower than wage growth, which is needed for affordability."
- "Policy solutions that don't address supply won't help long-term."
Conclusion The episode emphasizes a gradual transition in the housing market with an optimistic outlook for affordability improvements and calls for innovative policy solutions to tackle the ongoing supply issues. The integration of AI into real estate processes presents a forward-looking approach to enhancing buyer experiences.
Resources
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:09Welcome back to another episode of Real Estate Rookie. of the next few years. But before we do that, I want to thank the Rookie audience for another wonderful year together. To all the guests that have taken the time to share their story, successes, and lessons learned, the rookies listening wouldn't be where they are today without you. I am so inspired all the time by the action taken by you all, the honesty, the vulnerability, and the community. I can't wait to see what 2026 brings us all. Today's rerun is from the podcast On the Market. This episode features Redfin's head of economics research, and she talks about the housing market having a full reset in 2026.
0:50Not a flashy overnight change, but the start of a long steady shift that could finally bring buyers the affordability and normalcy they have been waiting for. In this episode, Chen walks us through 11 predictions her team believes will define the next cycle. We break down what could happen with mortgage rates, home prices, rents, refinancing opportunities, and overall transaction volume. We even talk about how AI might soon become a matchmaker for American homebuyers. And if you are an investor or landlord, pay attention. Hidden inside these predictions is one trend that could directly impact your cash flow in a very good way as we head into 2026.
1:29Settle in, grab a holiday cookie, and enjoy this timely rerun as we look ahead as to what could be the beginning of a new chapter in the housing market.
1:432026 is shaping up to be the start of what Redfin calls the Great Housing Reset, a long, slow period where affordability improves and the market normalizes, not a quick flip or a recession. I'm Dave Meyer, and today I'm joined by Redfin's head of economic research, Chen Zhao to unpack their new annual predictions report. We'll dive into each of their 11 predictions and walk through the headline calls from rate cuts to sales inching up, rents re-accelerating, and which markets are likely to heat up or cool down. This is On the Market. Let's get into it. Chen, welcome back to On the Market. Thanks so much for joining us again.
2:23Thanks so much for having me, Dave. This is one of our favorite shows of the year, hearing what Redfin has for predictions. So maybe just start by telling us sort of like big headline. What are you seeing? What's the big top level narrative about the market in 26? I'd say the headline is that we see the housing market taking a bit of a turn. I think it's already starting a little bit this year, but we think it's going to continue next year. And it's going to be a bit of a longer, what we're calling a reset of the housing market, where we think affordability will start to slowly change. And affordability really has been the big challenge for the housing market, as we all know.
3:01But there's no silver bullet. There's no magical fix. It's going to take a while. And we think next year is the start of better affordability for homebuyers. That is music to my ears. I think I saw something you all put out that affordability was like the best it's been in two or three years, just in the second half of 2025. So it seems like that trend is already emerging. Yes. I think we're starting to see the beginnings of that trend in the second half of 2025. So namely, the two important factors are mortgage rates and home prices. Right. So we know that mortgage rates have come down a little bit.
3:37We expect them to stay lower. We can get into more of that. And then home prices, we know the home prices are not growing as fast as they were. This has to do with the shift from a seller's market to a buyer's market. And we can talk about, you know, how we expect that to continue for the next few years. and what the underlying forces are. All right, great. Well, I tend to agree with the overall sort of thesis here. I think you guys called it the housing reset. I've called it sort of the great stall where I think prices are just kind of stay stagnant for a while. But let's get into the specific predictions that you all have.
4:12So what is the first one? The first one is about mortgage rates. So right now, mortgage rates are in the low sixes, 6.2, 6.3%. We think they're staying here. I think another way of putting this is that we don't expect mortgage rates to get into the fives, not for any sustained period of time. We know that mortgage rates fluctuate. Sometimes you get a little bounce down, but I don't think it'll stay there. We also don't really expect mortgage rates to get back up to 7 % either. I think the important thing they're here to focus on is, of course, always the Fed and what they're thinking about. And they're always balancing this like dual mandate that they have, right?
4:50So is it preventing high inflation, just trying to keep inflation low and steady, and also trying to keep unemployment from going up. So right now, the economy is in a very delicate balance. We know that the higher tariff rates have slowed economic growth. They also threaten to increase inflation, even though we haven't seen as much of that so far. But that means that the Fed has a really unique challenge on its hands. So even for the meeting that's happening next Wednesday, it's a bit of an open question. What are they going to be doing going forward? But because they're in this delicate balance, there's not much room for them to cut a lot.
5:29But we also don't think they're going to be hiking. So that means we're sort of stuck here with where mortgage rates are. And then the other thing you have to keep in mind is that there's this big transition happening next year with the Fed. The president will be nominating a new chair of the Federal Reserve, the chair is only one of 12 votes on the FOMC. So, you know, contrary to some, you know, some of the stuff that you see in the press that, you know, the chair of the Federal Reserve does not set interest rate policy. He or she is one person on that committee, but it is a very important person.
6:02And that transition is something that we also have to keep really close tabs on. Got it. OK, so not expecting a lot of movement either way. You know, It does seem kind of stuck. We have these dual, I guess you would call threats to the economy right now where inflation has been, we don't have a lot of inflation data for the last couple of months, but inflation prior to the government shutdown had been ticking up a little bit and job losses. It seems like every print tells us a different story. So it's just like really hard to understand what's going on there. And until we get clear line of sight on one of those things and like which one is really going to be the bigger issue or which one gets cleared up first.
6:40I agree with you that it's not going to move much. I'm curious, just the last couple of days, the Fed stopped quantitative tightening. Do you think there's any chance that the Fed does something more dramatic next year to impact mortgage rates, like maybe quantitative easing or something like that? I don't think so. I think that the communications that we've gotten from the Fed is pretty clear on this, that they want to pivot away from mortgage-backed securities and pivot towards a portfolio of treasury securities, right? And this idea that's been floated a few times, I've seen some op-eds about it, saying, hey, look, higher mortgage rates is really killing the housing industry.
7:25Can we do something for housing? Maybe that means the Fed buys MBS. It's really hard to imagine that they would choose to do something like that. when you still have so much lingering inflation risk from higher tariff rates, because you have to remember that housing is still the largest component of course, CPI or PCE, whichever your favorite measure is. And so if you were to stoke the housing market right now, what you would see is that home prices would just shoot up. And they really just like, you know, after all the scars and PTSD from the last few years with high inflation. I just can't imagine that they would really choose to do that.
8:06And Chair Powell has been asked about this a few times in his press conferences. And he has said each time very consistently, the problem in the housing market is that there needs to be more supply. And we all know this very well. We say it all the time. That's a very hard problem to solve. And put another way, I think another way to look at it is in the housing market, what we need is for prices to come down. We're in a new economic, you know, era now, after the pandemic, where rates are just going to be sitting higher. I often like to talk about this in terms of people's metabolisms. As you age, your metabolism changes.
8:47You need to change what you eat. And it's a little bit like that for the housing market. So we actually do need to just see lower home prices. That's the right way to get the housing market back to a healthy state. I agree with you there. So do you think that's going to happen? Maybe I'm skipping ahead on your predictions, but do you think that will happen that we'll see home prices decline? We're already starting to see it this year. So we started the year with home prices increasing about 5 % year over year. We're down to about 2%, 3 % depending on exactly how you want to measure it, what specific metrics you want to look at.
9:20So it's come down a lot and it came down a lot because the change of home buyers to home sellers has changed, right? So Redfin has this proprietary metric that we put out that we call active buyers and sellers. So sellers is really easy. It's just the amount of inventory in the market. The number of buyers is something that we impute from some of our proprietary data, where if we can see how many homes are selling and we know how long it takes people to find homes and how long it takes to sell homes, we can put all that together in a model and say, this implies that there are this many buyers.
9:53in the housing market actively looking right now. And what we saw was that that gap got really large in the spring of this year. There was about 37 % more home sellers and home buyers across the country. And most housing markets were tipping from being sellers markets to being buyers markets. So that ratio of sellers to buyers has a very close relationship to home price growth with a lead of about six months or so. So what we're seeing is that that shift has led to home price appreciation really slowing down. And it's hard to imagine, you know, as we continue to follow this metric, and that gap continues to be historically large, that it's hard to imagine that home price growth will accelerate again.
10:41And then especially if you layer on top of that, what we see happening with demographics. So we know that immigration into this country has more or less halted. We also know that the underlying demographics of the country means that there's going to be smaller populations going forward, that it's really hard to imagine that home prices will actually be appreciating that rapidly in the near or medium term. But on the other hand, it's also difficult to imagine that home prices will really be falling dramatically because, as we all know, people don't have to sell their homes. You can choose to rent it out.
11:17You can choose to continue to live in it. And we actually put out a report, I believe it was last week, looking at delistings. And we saw that the fraction of homes that are being delisted in 2025 was about 5.5%. That was up from about 4.8 % last year, which doesn't sound like a huge increase. But that fraction has been very constant, like below 5 % for the last 8 to 10 years. So that means that that increase is actually meaningful. It doesn't sound like a huge amount, but it's a pretty meaningful increase. And what we saw was that the homes that were being delisted are people who bought more recently.
11:53They don't want to sell where buyers are willing to pay right now. So buyers and sellers are just sort of far apart. And so as long as home sellers aren't willing to go where buyers need them to go, it's actually very hard for prices to also fall. Yeah, I actually we did a whole show on that report about delistings because I think it's super interesting. And to me, it just reflects that sellers are responding appropriately to the market. Right. Because I think a lot of the crash narratives that you hear about are right. You know, there's going to be panic selling or there's going to be this like sort of downward spiral of increasing inventory.
12:36But what you're seeing is a normal reaction. People don't want to sell at a loss. They don't want to, you know, and they don't have to. There's no forced selling going on. So they're just choosing not to sell. I think it's personally, I'm curious to see if they come back on in the spring. But because I have a lot of friends who like a house flippers, a lot of them are pulling them off, you know, and we'll do it in the spring. But I think that to me is a sign that you're correct, that it's going to be sort of a boring year price wise for the housing market. Yeah, I mean, we're going to continue to publish this delisting data pretty regularly.
13:08And we will also be publishing, you know, who is delisting and are they relisting the home? So we should see that in the spring if they are coming back on the market. You know, it is boring, I guess, in some sense to say, look, home prices are going to maybe increasing like one percent or two percent, like something very low. Right. But it's actually a meaningful change for buyers, because what that means is that home prices are growing slower than wages. And that is what buyers actually need. They need time for wages to catch up to where home prices are because the home prices are not going to be falling.
13:43This is the only mechanism that we have in order to get to this place where we need to go, where, you know, homes are more affordable for people where their incomes actually are. And that's what we think will be happening next year. So that is your second prediction, right, for next year? Yes. Essentially, home prices are going to be growing slower than wages. And this is the step that you need for affordability. But importantly, this kind of progress is very slow. So it might not even be very noticeable to a lot of buyers after the first year. We don't expect affordability to, you know, all of a sudden jump back to where it was before the pandemic.
14:21It's going to be a slow process, maybe five to six years. It might take a while for buyers to actually notice, hey, affordability has gotten better. That makes sense. So just for everyone who is listening, we've been talking about this on the show recently, but what Chen is talking about also reflects the difference between nominal and real home prices. Because Chen said prices might go up 1 % to 2%. That's the price you see on Redfin if you were going to go look. But when you actually compare that increase to inflation, to wages, they're actually negative. And I know that sounds negative to some people, but that means affordability is improving.
14:58That's how we're actually getting affordability. And, you know, right now it's baby steps towards affordability, but we can get back towards meaningful improvements in affordability over time if real home prices stay kind of flat and we just keep growing. Like that's a normal way that we get affordability back into the housing market. Landlords, here's a quick tip. A standardized checklist for property inspections can save you time, money, and headaches. Preventative maintenance means fewer expensive surprises later. Want to save even more? RentReady helps you stay on top of rent collection, lease management, and maintenance requests, all in one easy-to-use platform.
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17:57It's been about 4.1 million. It's going to be 4.1 million again this year-ish. Next year, we're forecasting 4.2 million. It's not a lot. Historically, it's very, very low, actually. It's only up about 3 % from where we think we will end this year. I think that the increased affordability means you just get a little bit more activity in the market. But by and large, what we're describing with buyers and sellers, really just being at the stalemate means that you're not going to get this huge pickup in the housing market next year. I hope you're wrong about this, but I agree with you. I just think for this whole industry, it would be great if we had more sales volume.
18:38It just feels like it's been so sluggish and slow. And for anyone who's a lender, an agent, it's been a tough slog. And Hopefully, though, at least this is a sign in the right direction. It's got to bottom out at some point, right? And maybe this means that we're moving towards better home sales volume, maybe not in 2026, a little bit better, but maybe in the years after that, we'll start getting towards a more normal level of sales volume. Chen, what is the fourth prediction Redfin has this year? It's about rents. So as we all know, rents have been really flat to slightly declining for a number of years now.
19:14We think that next year, rents will start to tick up just a little bit, probably towards the back half of the year. We know that multifamily construction has really slowed. There's also increased demand from people not buying a home for renting. So the combination of those two things means that we probably just get the smallest uptick in rents. It might mean that, you know, you're talking about this difference between nominal and real price growth. Right now, rents are falling on a real basis once you adjust for inflation. By some metrics, they're actually falling on a nominal basis. We think we might get to somewhere where it's flat on a real basis.
19:52The rents are keeping up with inflation, in other words. And that's based on mostly just the supply glut that we've sort of been in for multifamily dissipating? Exactly. I think that's the main motivation here. But we also think that this continued affordability challenge, that's just going to take a long time to work through. on the purchase side means you just get higher demand still. We also know that the economy has gotten a lot weaker, the labor markets weaker, we're sort of like on the edge of a recession, probably won't fall into a recession, but that will keep enough people renting rather than buying.
20:28That's interesting, because I noticed the same thing. I saw some stat that, you know, the unemployment rate for people under 25 is like 9 % right now, you know, like these, these kinds of numbers that I don't know if we go into a recession or not. But it made me wonder if it will weigh on household formation, because I think you're right. We'll have a higher percentage of people renting. But for rental demand to keep up, we need household growth. But I'm curious if you have any thoughts on that, if that's going to slow down or where that will go. We do think that the slower economic growth will weigh on household formation a little bit.
21:06But the economy, you know, there's a lot of headlines right now about the negative jobs data that we're seeing. The government shutdown means that we just haven't gotten great official jobs data. So we still need to wait for that. And the reality of the labor market is that it has slowed down a lot, but it's still staying afloat and the economy is still staying afloat. So that makes me think that we won't get a huge impact yet on household formation. but housing costs remain high. So we do think there are going to be some impacts on things like household formation and also on things like people deciding to start a family.
21:46So our fifth prediction is that, you know, affordability means people have more roommates. We say fewer babies, meaning that, you know, maybe you want to get into a bigger home before you start to have kids. But, you know, you're finding it's that to be really challenging. So you're going to delay that for a little while. And as I was saying before, we do think housing affordability will improve, but it's going to take a number of years. So that will weigh on some of these factors for families. Got it. OK. I mean, that makes sense to me. I do think people are stretched and it's going to be hard for people to go out and form a new household.
22:25Just for everyone knows, like household formation, it's a little bit different than population growth. It's basically measuring the total demand for housing units. So, for example, if two roommates are living together, then they each decide to go out and get their own apartment. Doesn't change the population of a city or the country, but that adds one more household and that adds one more unit of demand. That could happen when a young person moves out of their parents' house or if two people split up and they decide to have two homes. So that's what we're talking about. And that's just an ongoing question I have.
22:58particularly as it relates to rents. So we actually, we got a twofer on that one. We did prediction four and five at the same time. So what is prediction six? Prediction six is about policy. So housing affordability has become the paramount issue in policy. I think what we saw in the last election cycle is that it is the decisive issue actually, or it will be in a lot of elections. And I think both parties know this and candidates who are running for office also know this. So our prediction is that there will be a lot of serious proposals brought forward. It is, as is always the case in policy, some of them will be useful and some of them may not be that useful at the end of the day.
23:44We know that in order to really address housing affordability, you have to build more supply. But that is really, really hard to do because it's controlled by thousands of local jurisdictions. A good portion of the population has a vested interest in not allowing there to be more supply. So this is a very tricky problem to solve. And it's going to require really innovative policy solutions because, quite frankly, no one's really solved this problem. And it's been a problem for a long time. We know that the country is short many millions of housing units. But across the country, when you're looking at election results, you can see that this really is the main issue that's on the minds of voters.
24:29Well, I hope you're right. I do hope that we start to see some sensible policies here. My, you know, I was getting interviewed the other day and I was saying I feel like the the real hard thing here is that policies that actually help are not really well aligned with the election cycles in the United States because adding supply takes years, right? Like we could start now and it could take three years. It could take five years, it could take seven years and politicians, both sides of the aisle, they're trying to get reelected every two years or every four years. And so oftentimes I think what frustrates me is the solutions that get the most traction are the short-term ones that might maybe make a dent in the short run, but like aren't really kind of going after the supply issue.
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25:10I'm curious if you have any thoughts on like what some good policies or any examples of policies that could actually help here, because I totally agree. This is a huge problem for the country. It needs to be fixed. To me, I think there are local jurisdictions that have made some progress by making it easier, taking away red tape, maybe introducing ADUs or manufactured housing, all these different types of innovation to try to add some supply. It's not a silver bullet and it's not enough supply, although we shouldn't discount that there is some progress being made. I think in order for there to be a consolidated federal push, the difficulty is that the federal government is involved in the housing market, mostly on the financing side.
25:52It's not on the supply side. But the federal government has a lot of sticks and carrots that it can use when talking to local jurisdictions because, you know, local governments get a lot of funding from the federal government. I think if there was a way to use these carrots and sticks and, you know, tie some funding to outcomes in local jurisdictions, that could be a really promising solution. I don't know that this has been tried very, you know, much in a sort of meaningful way, but that's some that would be something to explore. Most of the proposals that get put forward are on the demand side.
26:28And as we all know, that's not actually what is helpful. We just have to address what is actually happening on the supply side. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Because just as an example, demand side policies, like if you subsidize buyers, right, or you lower mortgage rates, just to figure out some way to help people buy, that can be helpful, right, for a minute. But then it just pushes the price of homes up and you still have the same long term structural affordability challenges, right? Exactly. It makes the problem actually worse in the long run. It's very myopic. And it's really, honestly, the last thing that we need.
27:02I often do like when I'm thinking about housing policy and the affordability issue, it's we have to take our medicine. You just you can't have your cake and eat it at the same at the same time. At some point, you have to take your medicine. And I think that's the really hard part because no one really does, because most people who own homes, the majority of their wealth is in their home. So it's hard. Yeah, I get. that. Like people want more affordability without making their home go down in value. That is a tricky thing to pull off. You know, I've, I've said this on the show a few times. I like your saying, take your medicine.
27:36We're in an unhealthy place in the housing market. And to get back to health, like there's going to be some pain somewhere. Like it doesn't, you don't get a magic redo. Um, and so I personally think the slow you guys are calling sort of the great reset or call the great stall. Like, I think that's kind of a good balance personally. Like if we can add more supply gradually, if we can, if wages can go up, this is a tolerable way for affordability to get restored without the bottom falling out of the market and homeowners losing a ton of equity and wealth. And so I'm encouraged by some of the market dynamics, but I do think the policy thing is still the missing piece.
28:16Like there's no coherent policy from anyone. I'm not blaming one party or the other. There is no coherent policy from anyone about how we're going to do better. Yeah. And it's an incredibly tricky problem to solve. All right. Let's move on to our seventh prediction. What do you got? So our seventh prediction is that more people will refi and remodel. So when we think about refi, I think we're thinking about it in two different ways. One is simply that over the last few years, actually, a lot of people have bought homes at really high mortgage rates. So right now, about 20 percent of people who have a mortgage have a rate above six percent.
28:51So as rates fall into that below sixes, you actually have a healthy number of people who will be in the money for a refi. So we do expect that refi volume will increase about 30 percent next year. So that is like, you know, it's off a very small base. So we have to remember that. But that, you know, is meaningful. meaningful, right? Because 6.3 % mortgage rates sounds pretty high. But if you remember that, you know, we were at 6.8 % and 6.8 % and 6.6%, I think this year 6.6%, probably average for the year, you know, like we're coming down very, very slowly. And it's, you know, enough of a change that you will have people who are going to be in the money for a refi.
29:33The other is just that, as we all know, a lot of people have a lot of equity in their homes, but they're also still stuck. They can't afford to move on to a bigger house. So a lot of them probably will start to, if they haven't already, tap into that home equity. I think renovation will continue to be, you know, a hot topic where people are going to be trying to make the space that they have work for them. Inspecting your rentals again? Here's a pro tip. A simple checklist makes sure nothing gets overlooked. It saves you time and costly repairs down the road. And when it comes to managing your rentals, RentReady makes everything easier.
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33:45Let's keep moving. Jen, what is prediction number eight? So prediction number eight is about different regions of the country. So we think that the markets that are going to be high in 2026 are really a lot of these suburbs around New York City that right now are some of our strongest markets. Also, some of the metros in the Midwest, which are among the more affordable places. On the flip side, we think that the places that we're really seeing that are among our weaker markets, you know, in the Sunbelt in Florida and Texas, these are going to continue to be the weaker markets in 2026. So there is this back to office, return to office trend that is just continuing to happen.
34:25It is, I think, going to be more of a trend in a weaker housing market because employers just have more of the upper hand. Right now, people who are looking for jobs are having a really difficult time finding jobs. So when they say, you know, three days is now four days, four days is now five days, or you just have to, you know, I think there's gonna be more of that happening. But still, some people will remain hybrid. So not, you know, not everyone's gonna be looking to move to Manhattan. But a lot of people are going to be looking to move to Long Island and New Jersey or Westchester. And so these are the markets that are sellers markets, even though most of the country is made up of buyers markets at this point.
35:07And how do you see the spread here? Like over the last couple of years, we've seen dramatic differences. Like if you looked at 24, 25, there are markets like Milwaukee were up 7, 8%. There's Austin down 7, 8%. That was like a pretty big spread between the top and bottom performing markets. Do you see that consolidating a little bit? Yes. I mean, there are, places, especially in Florida and Texas, these are like your weakest markets right now. When you compare them to what's happening on Long Island, they're like worlds apart right now. But what we're continuing to see in places like Florida and Texas is that a lot of these metros have 100, 150, sometimes 200 % more sellers than there are buyers.
35:48And as I was saying, that metric tends to be forward looking by about six months. So that means that probably over the next six months to a year, if we continue to see this spread between buyers and sellers being so big, these markets are going to continue to be pretty weak. And what about the hotter markets? You know, it's this modest growth to 3 % or something higher than that. It feels like these markets, if anything, are actually heating up a little bit. Not a ton, right? You know, demand is kind of slow in general, like that's an overarching thing kind of everywhere. But it's still like, you know, relatively speaking, they seem to be heating up And a lot of these markets like Boston or Long Island around New York City, these are places where you're still maintaining a healthy distance where there's more buyers and sellers.
36:39And so that feels like it's something to sustain kind of like the price growth that we're seeing. Well, this will be an interesting one to watch because the market is, you know, we talk on the show all the time about the national market. But clearly, as Chen just pointed out, we have very different markets and is an investor or homeowner. You need to be looking at what's going on in your individual market to formulate your strategy. All right, let's go to our ninth prediction. We're flying through these. Which one's that, Chen? It's about climate migration. So we think that this is going to be more of a local story than a cross metro story in 2026.
37:16So we know that with climate change that this has become more on the minds of buyers. So people are paying attention to climate data when they see it on real estate portals. We know that insurance has become a real issue when it comes to affordability in the housing market. But when buyers are thinking about where to live, they have so many different issues that they have to contend with. They have to think about, you know, where's your family? Where are the jobs? So instead of saying people aren't going to be living in Florida, maybe they need to be in Florida for some other reason. They might be thinking about I need to live in this part of the city rather than this other part of the city, which might be more prone to disaster risk.
38:02So I think that feels, I think, more realistic for homebuyers who have to contend with a number of different factors when they're thinking about where to buy a house. How do you measure that? How do you know people are like if you see someone move within a city, how do you know it's because of climate risk? I think one really good way to do this, and it's hard to have all the data in place in order to really do this analysis well, is to look at insurance costs. Because really, when talking about climate risk, it's manifested through insurance costs, right? So I think if you were able to look at insurance costs and then tie that to housing market activity, and we have a pretty good measure of demand in the housing market right now through our buyers and sellers metric, that could help you to see this relationship clearly, even within a broader metro area, I think.
38:56And I'm curious, you said, you know, you see this happening just in 2026. Do you think there is potential for cross metro migration in the future? Do you not have that information? You know, I think if you're thinking further out when you're thinking about, you know, disaster risk or insurance costs, this is, I think, one kind of sort of like lingering, you know, kind of big risk for the housing market. It's a little bit hard to know exactly where it goes many, many years from now, though. I think it really depends on what we actually see happening in insurance markets, what mortgage companies decide to do in terms of thinking about the risks and who's like owning the risk for the properties that are mortgaged and have this disaster risk.
39:45So it's a little bit harder to see, but certainly I think it wouldn't be out of the question for there to be a cross metro migration. Thank you. All right. We have two more predictions to go. What's number 10? So number 10 is really about the industry. We think that with so many MLSs out there, the National Association of Realtors is going to sort of just take a little bit of a step back, let the MLSs set more of their own rules. This is something that's really already starting to happen. So it's more of like a continuation prediction than a change. And NAR is really going to, for its part, actually spend more time on advocacy instead.
40:23Oh, OK. Interesting. Do you think it's just given the a lot of challenges NIR has faced in the last couple of years, they kind of have to like pick and choose where they're going to spend their energy? Yes, I think so. I think it makes sense sort of as a continuation of the turmoil in the industry that we've seen over these last few years. I think that makes sense. Just being a casual observer of how much. Yeah, like you said, there's been a lot of turmoil in the industry. So that brings us to our last prediction. Number 11. What do you got? Well, number 11 is about everyone's favorite topic, AI.
40:56Can't escape AI. Yeah, got to talk about it. Can't go through a podcast without talking about AI. Of course. Yeah, so a lot of the prediction is that AI will become a real estate matchmaker. We're already starting to see this. You know, AI is infiltrating basically every aspect of our lives. We think that AI is really increasingly going to help people decide where to live, which homes to buy. It's just going to start to play a bigger role. Redfin has conversational search now on our website. We've seen that a lot of the users who are using it are really happy with the results because it means that instead of going through the search filters, you can have a conversation and describe what you want in your home search.
41:39And that's very appealing to a lot of people. People are also going to use AI to, you know, just do research and look into like which cities or which towns have the characteristics that our family is looking for. So this is still technology that's very much in its early stages, even though it seems like it's dominating the news all the time. But over the next few years, it's hard to imagine that AI wouldn't play a much bigger role in real estate search. I think so too. I think the search part really makes a lot of sense. That seems right up AI's alley. I've seen some predictions that people are saying, you know, they're going to help negotiations or, you know, coordinate transactions.
42:26What do you think about that side of things? That feels like if that happens, it has to be further down the road, right? Because when you bring AI into a role like that, I think there's also a bit of a trust issue where people, you know, when you're thinking about what is the difference between AI and a human, most humans will probably say, well, I trust another human more than I trust AI. Like I was saying, the technology is still in its early days. There's so much for us to learn about it right now. So the search component feels like the obvious place where it can really make a positive change right now.
43:03But a few years down the road, who knows? I agree with you. Long term, probably going to disrupt everything. But right now, I think a lot of people are sort of saying AI can do things it can't yet, at least not in a reliable way. But I think search, research, gathering data, like those kinds of things, it is already pretty good at. And so this makes a lot of sense to me. All right. Well, thank you so much, Chen, for being here. This is a lot of fun. It's always fun talking through these predictions and seeing how they play out through the rest of the year. Thank you for being here and for all the amazing research you and your team at Redfin put out.
43:37We are always talking about your work here on on the market. Well, thanks so much. It's always fun coming on here. So thank you for having us. Absolutely. And thank you all so much for listening to this episode on the market. We'll see you next time. Okay, we're going to shift gears for a minute to cover something important, especially for new landlords. The shows often talk about getting stuck doing everything ourselves and the cost of sweat equity. The key question is simple. Is my time better spent elsewhere? I use a tool that cuts down on a lot of landlord hassles. And the wild part is it's just$12 a month.
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Redfin just called it. The housing market will “reset” in 2026…or at least it’ll be the start of it.
Chen Zhao, Redfin's head of economics research, has 11 predictions she and her team have formulated for the 2026 housing market. A long, slow period of progress could be upon us, as buyers get what they’ve been asking for: better affordability, a more normal market, and the chance to own where there’s work.
But what does this really mean? Will mortgage rates fall? Will home prices drop? We’re going through each of the 11 predictions with Chen, discussing prices, rates, rents, refinances, transaction volume, and even how AI could become the “matchmaker” for Americans looking for their first or next property.
Make no mistake, this is good news for many, and could be just the start of a cycle that finally puts average Americans in the position to purchase a home. But, for real estate investors and landlords, there could be another big benefit coming in 2026, one that has a direct impact on your cash flow.
In This Episode We Cover
Redfin’s 2026 housing market predictions (prices, mortgage rates, and more!)
The great “reset” that is coming for the housing market (it’s already begun)
Rent growth returns? Struggling landlords could get some relief next year
The best and worst real estate markets that Redfin is forecasting for 2026
The AI effect on real estate and why more buyers are using bots to find homes
And So Much More!
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