Amorim: Sometimes I Want To Quit | with Garnacho & Rasmus Højlund Departures

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0:58targets by the way Jed Spence who's just got an England team England squad shout out Jed Spence friend of the channel and also I'm going to be answering some of your questions from all you fans in the chat group that we've got on Instagram on the Rare Ferdinand Presents Instagram page listen guys stay tuned and let's go there's no place to start other than Ruben Amorim's press conference and um he's come out there and I think he knew immediately he was going to get some difficult but awkward questions not difficult and I think that by the sounds of it it was listen guys I've been emotional I don't like losing and I may have said a few things that could be misconstrued that could be taken out of context um but he did he did back it up with every time we get beat like that I am going to be the same I am going to be emotional um And it was quite open.

1:53I think one of the quotes was, sometimes I hate my players. Sometimes I love my players and this is the way I do things. But I think the most important thing, I think it is important to get the right tone in the press conferences, but the most important place to get the tone right is in the changing room. So I'm hoping that in the changing room, he's had some choice words with those players. Someone's been strangled. Someone's been put in a headlock. Someone's been fined. I don't know. I'd like to think there's been some real, real solid hard conversations had almost fights i don't mind a fight have one because i think moments like that where it is on the edge where emotions are running high where people feel embarrassed there's no doubt in my mind he was in that the pictures the memes that are going around now of ruben amram in the in the uh the dugout almost like cowering looking like he was hiding what it is is maybe what it might be superstition that he already wants to do that and doesn't like watching, etc.

2:52I didn't like watching, to be honest with you. I never watched penalties. I used to put my head down and look the other way and hope. But at the same time, there's an embarrassment factor. There's a pride. There's an ego that Ruben Amarin has, but also the players should have. Yeah, it's been difficult the last couple of days, I think. A drawing against Fulham felt like a loss. And then Grimsby, backed up by Grimsby with a team that was quite experienced. It wasn't like we had loads of kids playing. It's quite an experienced team. And getting beat the way we did. Didn't even, you know when you go to a Grimsby or a lower league team in the cup competitions normally?

3:28They cannot fight you sometimes. It gives you a run for your money physically. Definitely for 60 minutes they put it on you. Crowd behind them as well. Away. Tough. Tough environment. Tough conditions. We've all been there. And we've all been knocked out by a minor or a lesser club. Right? Now normally one of the main factors as to why you get beat on that day. Maybe you push your luck. in the game and you're a bit off it and you're getting, they get a rub of the green sometimes. Bit of fortune. But nine times out of 10, trust me, it's the way that the players have failed to approach the game the way they would have approached it with a top Premier League team.

4:09And if you're off it, 1%, 2%, you get punished. And let's have it right. Grinsby didn't bully us, didn't beat us up. didn't have two big forwards like Mick Harford two big Duncan Ferguson's up there they played actually some good football and they should have had three or four goals so we were quite lucky on the night to get to penalties and their manager said that and he was trying to be respectful to be honest yeah but what I will say is I think Ruben Arun I think there's been a lot of people talking about oh Ruben Arun give him the sack now and I say it again they're like before a ball was kicked we're three games in now before a ball was kicked everyone was like yeah we got optimistic I'm the same optimistic I'm hopeful I'm hopeful that we're going to improve but three games you can't sack someone after three games I'm sorry it just doesn't make sense you've allowed them to invest in three new strikers and you're going to say after three games when they're not even fully fit themselves then boys and you're going to say right I'm going to sack you doesn't make sense It does not make sense to me.

5:20And I don't see Ineos doing that. No way. I can't see it. I think they're more sensible than that. And there's emotional people out there and there's people that pay their good hard-earned money that deserve to be entertained and deserve better performances and deserve better results. Yes, I get that. Yeah, we all feel like that. But let's not be stupid. Let's not jump on the bandwagon and start getting all emotional about it and thinking, right, I'm going to start a vendetta. Yeah, there's been bad results. But you know what? You know, when you try and turn things around at football clubs, especially one the size of Man United that's been in turmoil, that's been on a downward spiral for many years now, 10, 12 years, right?

5:59Do you think it's going to be like six months, a year to turn that around? No, it ain't. Because if we just keep changing managers every six months, every year, it's going to be the same thing for the next 20 years. Sometimes you've got to, and I don't forget this quote from the manager. his press conference and one of the press conferences when he first came he said there's going to be some tough times there's going to be some bleeding but we're going to have to go through that there's no doubts we're going to have to go through that and this is that we're still in that moment all these people are saying I understand it the formation's an issue for a lot of people should we be playing a different formation should there be some flexibility in that adapting to teams and moments in games to change it but this manager will tell you that yeah we start on paper we're free at the back but there's moments in the game that we're playing for at the back and we're shifting around, etc.

6:49And it's changing in terms of shape in and out of possession. But I think you've got to allow the club to go through a period of pain if we feel there's a chance to get through the other side and there's going to be some sunlight. And if you're allowing the managers to spend money the way we have in the window and allowing them to let people go, players that I'll come on to in a little while, then there has to be an element of patience through turmoil. and that's where we are right now. And that leads me on to players that are leaving. I think Garnaccio, Chelsea have agreed a 40 million fee to sign Alejandro Garnaccio.

7:30I would much rather him stay at the club. From a pure footballing point of view, I think he should have been made to stay at the club. But we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Has there been a ruffling of feathers? Has there been a clash of personalities between the player and the manager? If that's the case, that's what he looks like. That's what it smells like to me. So the manager's saying, pulling rank, you've got to go. You're not for me. And to be honest, from what I've heard, Granaccio has stood his ground and said, Chelsea's the only club I want to go to. Turned down Montpour for some other clubs and said he's going to go to Chelsea.

8:01So fair play to him. Good luck to him. I think it's one of the largest fees, but it is the largest fee for an academy player. Although I do still, it's an undervalued fee. If Maduweke is going for 55 million pounds, Garnaccio should be going for that at least. I don't see if Alanga's going for the number that he went for, Garnaccio's got to go for at least that as well. Under-21 stats-wise, he's up there at the best of them. But I think the Chelsea fans have got a really exciting young player. He scored a great goal, I remember, at Sanford Bridge when he ran a length of the pitch with a ball. And that's one of the reasons I think Chelsea bought him.

8:37He's different to all the wingers they have. And everyone's going, they've got so many players, but he's different. and for squad depth and for a different factor within the team and a different threat, he brings that willingness to run behind. Give me the ball. I want to make a difference. I want to score goals and create havoc. That's what he does. I think Anthony's another player. I think he's going back to Betis there saying I think it's a£3 million loan fee and then an obligation to buy. So good luck to Anthony. Hope he goes and does his thing over there. Kobi Mainu Alomu. We're hearing reports Fabrizio Romano.

9:12David Ornstein, among others, are saying that Kobe Maynard has notified the club that he wants a loan move. I hope not, man. Yeah, he's not playing at the moment, but I think the manager's press conference said, yeah, I want Kobe to stay and I want him to sit and fight. And there's two ways of looking at this. We ain't playing that well, so why not start him? and I think Kobe and his team and his group around him will be saying that well listen if we were playing really well and winning games I'd understand being on the bench but it's not like we're playing well consistently and it's not like we're getting three points on the ball week in week out we look nothing like we should do so why am I sitting on the sidelines not playing any minutes other than against Grimsby now there's some people that say well you had the chance against Grimsby you've got to go and take it him along with all the other players that played he didn't take that chance.

10:09So that'll be where the manager will be standing. Well, you've not shown me enough to make me want to play you now at the weekend. But I've got to be honest, if I was in Cobby's camp, I would be sitting there going, I need assurances if I go on loan, I'm going to start, I'm going to play because I don't want to get embarrassed again going out and not playing. But on the other hand, I might be sitting there going to, listen, Cobby, there's been better players than you in years gone by that have been out of the team and have had to fight their way back in the team. so let's sit here and show people what you're made of let's show people that you're made of the right stuff that you're willing to sit out for a couple of games here and there but when your chance comes in the Premier League you're going to take it and you're going to graft in training you're going to graft behind the scenes put your collar up and go right I'm here now it's my time that's the that's the that's the kind of personality and character that I'd love to see now it's easy to say that sitting here because I'm not doing it but there's two like I said there's two ways of looking at this you either get assurances from a lone team of each choice that he wants to go to and they're saying it's Napoli seeing what happened with Scott McTominay he'd probably think I can do that as well so I get that in a way but I would love him to say you know what and you know I'd love to see I'd love him to come out and just go listen guys I ain't going nowhere United's my club and I'm going to fight I'd love to see that but we have to wait we've got a few days left of the window now We have to wait and see what happens.

11:34I think Sancho's another player. I think there are reports that he's waiting to see to the last stages of the window, the last knock-ins to see what club's there, what club he wants to go to. Malasia, they're saying that he's going to be going to El Chão alone. And Hoyland, it seems there's an obligation to buy after a loan with him at Napoli. That would be a fantastic move for him, going to the Champions. But what it leads me to is, I drew up a little list of the players that we've signed during Ten Hag's tenure, reign as manager. And look at the players, Anthony, Highland, Casemiro, Mount, Lenioro, Martinez, Anana, Ugarte, De Litt, Xerxi, Malasia, Masraoui, Bainda.

12:16Out of that, I think there's 13 players, only Casemiro, Lenioro, and now at the start of this season, De Litt, who you go with people that are starting this team. All the others are squad players. and you look at their recruitment in that era and you go flipping hell now there's some good players in there but were they Man United players all of them? Were there a lot of them that were signing there we were going not sure about that one hoping he's I hope he does well with him is he a Man United player? And even more so when the new manager comes in with his tactics they've looked less like Man United players a lot of them so the recruitment has left us in a really, really bad place.

13:00And I think that's another big thing to think about when you're talking about getting rid of the manager and talking about Ineos, et cetera. There's a massive cleanup process that has to go on because of the bad recruitment that's gone on in the last four or five years at this football club. There's dead wood. There's players not good enough. There's players that have got zero confidence, no game time, on their knees, but won't leave. and the club oven to clean this up and sort this out it's a lot to do it's not like it's just our manager come in and just fix things there's so many things to do there's so many layers to this um which makes it even more which makes it more difficult it makes me sit there when i think about it and when i thought about it without being emotional and go actually you've got to give them a bit more time you've got to give the manager and inios a bit of time a bit more time We can't have quick fixes.

13:52We don't need quick fixes. We want long-term overhaul. This isn't about a bandage. Goes back to Raniak when he was saying, this is open heart surgery needed doing here. He's absolutely right. So that doesn't mean changing things here and there quickly. It means sticking with someone and going through it. And yes, results haven't been good enough. Yes, there hasn't been enough points on the board. Yes, we haven't seen consistency. see. Yes, we haven't seen an upturn in form. But you can't see you can't expect that immediately when there's been so much wrong at the football club. So I don't know.

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15:07Man, I've seen some reports, I think, Balaber in midfield, and we're going to talk about the midfield options now, actually. I think that we've spoken about Balaba and Wharton they're the two players that I'd go for 100 % but they're not realistic targets as they have left Palace Wharton's going nowhere Brighton have stood firm and said Balaba's not going nowhere late in the window like this so I don't see them two transverse happening I'd love one of them to come up I don't see it I mentioned Atalanta's Edison ages ago a long time ago so did one of our guests on the show on one of the Rio presents shows.

15:44Owen Hargreaves, friend of the show, who's got a good eye for a player, by the way. He mentioned him. His words were, he'd be perfect for 3-4-3 as he's got crazy legs. And yet, he can play attacking, can take the ball. Really good energy. But I think Atalanta are having a summer of big changes with the manager, Gasparini, moving to Roma after nine years at the club and totally running that club. So it could potentially be a good time to go and get one of their main players and swoop in for Edison. But let me know what you think, guys. And who would you bring in for Ruben and Maroon's team? Get in the comments and let us know.

16:22And again, another shout out to one of the people we've had on the show. We had Jed Spence, who came in in the shade, said, don't care what you say, I back myself 1v1 against any winger in the world. And he's proven so again this season that he is the guy when it comes to 1v1 defending, especially he stacks up against anybody and backs himself with confidence when you wear shades inside. I want to see a pair of shades during the 90 minutes at some point, pull them out of the socks or something like that when a goal goes in or when you shut down another winger. But he's now in the England squad.

16:49Jed Spence, good luck, my man. Keep going. Keep doing what you're doing. So now, man, let's go to the fans' questions. We're here now. If you don't know already, listen, guys, I've started a group chat that you can all join. So make sure you go and join that. It's on the Rio Ferdinand Presents Instagram page. The group chat's there. It's popping off all the time. Voice notes, reactions to certain things. Be part of the group. To join, head to the profile of that account the reafford now presents instagram account and you'll see the link just click on that in there i asked you the question what questions did you want answers today so here we go i've got a few waiting for me here right did they chi ammo do you reckon 4-2-3-1 is better suited to the squad rather than 3-4-3 yes i do i believe the squad the players would be a better team and i think they would adapt very very quickly to a 4-2-3-1 formation i can see it now forget the back four you can pick who you want in the back four but the midfield you can easily see it kobi mainu casemiro or mount or a guy in there as one of the two or two of two out of two of them players the three across the front easy to pick there one of two wide the what the two wide players, Cunha and Bumo or Ahmad, any one of those three.

18:08You could even put Bruno in one of them, but Bruno will go in the 10 and you put Cesc out front. That's what you're doing, man. It's easy to see. It looks like the players would be able to adapt to that very, very quickly. SK Dream won six permanent managers in 12 years at Man United. How can it always be the manager's fault? Yes, I agree. That's why I'm saying stick with Ruben Amarin through the rough moment what we're in right now. Stick with him. It's a process. quick fixes do not last long. We've seen that. Six permanent managers at Manchester United in the last 12 years tells you quick change don't work.

18:43But also picking the right people. That's what we've got to get right. Ravel Anzani, what do you think Ruben Oren meant when he said the players showed what they want after the Grimsley game? I think in that heated emotional state he was in, I think he was saying that the players, I think he was saying the players have shown that they don't want me here because they're playing almost to get me sacked the way they played. That's what that said to me. Now he's come out today and he's gone a bit more soft. He's saying, listen guys, I'm emotional. But I think in an emotional state, that's what he said.

19:15These guys have basically said they want me out of here because they're playing like they want to get me sacked. Savvy boy, do you think Leach are returning strength for us a lot? He gives us the depth 100%. I want to see how he comes back from fitness. Listen, on the ball with the ball 100%. percent. Martinez is brilliant with the ball, takes the ball anywhere, can get us playing. It's in that free when he's got to go out into the wide areas and go into midfield, et cetera, be aggressive in that. He's aggressive, don't get me wrong, but in them big spaces in the wide areas, I think he could be opened up and I want to see that and hopefully he come to grips with that part of what the free at the back demands of a player.

19:53So I think it will stretch him. I think he's capable, but he's got to go out and prove it now. He's got to dislodge someone like Luke Shaw if he stays fit. I think that's going to be a big, big challenge. Vekovskis, if you could play alongside any defender in history as your partner, who would it be? It would be Paolo Maldini. I could be the best defender of my generation and the generation before. What a player. I just don't know if you could have two players that just look supremely elegant together. No, I'm joking. Paolo Madini all day. Steve21 says, are you looking forward to seeing Rio Nguemura and Max Dalman on the pitch during Liverpool versus Arsenal this weekend?

20:36Listen, guys, I have to say, a 16-year-old Rio at Liverpool and a 15-year-old at Arsenal deserve a segment of their own. How is that happening? How are we here, guys? How are we sitting here saying a 16 and a 15-year-old player are going into a Premier League match and could be the subplot, the leading second story in this game. Two hugely talented players. Rio scores the winner for Liverpool against Newcastle. What a finish. What an achievement just to get in and around a squad, let alone get on the pitch and score. Getting chances in pre-season, showing the manager you can trust me. Trust me with the player.

21:20The players believe in him. You can see it. wonderful talent. I've watched him since he was probably 12 years old, 11, 12 years old in the academy football. He used to play against one of my sons. He's a year younger and he used to rip it up then. He lacked end product back then at times, immature in certain situations, as you'd expect for a young winger, a young player that wants to affect the game. But what I would say is that Chelsea and academy there never once said, stop doing what you're doing because you're giving it away. We need more end product. We need a better output. keep doing what you're doing, allowed him to grow, allowed him to be a dribbler, allowed him to be a maverick type player and not worry too much about making mistakes.

22:03And then he goes to Liverpool, breaks the hearts of all the Chelsea fans and is absolutely fast-tracked in and around the first team. And once, I guess one of those type of player he looks like to me, put me in amongst it and I'll produce. No wavering of confidence. Put me in around Virgil. Put me in around the likes of Panati put me in around the McAllister's of this world world cup winners I want to be in it with Salah where are they that's the type of vibe I get from these young players now Max Darman's exactly the same and we've spoken loads about Max Darman because I don't know if there's a 15 year old about as talented as him but there's loads we've got more you know Man United I've been watching my old mate Darren Fletcher is now the manager of the under 18 doing a fabulous job there keep hearing him talk about the Man United DNA and making players run, be aggressive, have intent, be relentless.

22:56I watched them the other day smash up a few teams last three or four games, banged in goals galore, but could have scored more dominating teams. They've got a kid called JJ Gabriel. I know you've heard of him. Wow. He's got a massive chance. Massive chance. He's the one who could be mentioned alongside Rio and Max Dalman. He's the next one. I'm telling you. but love to see it and these kids have got confidence that I don't think that lads in our generation only the likes of Wayne Rooney Michael Owen Joe Cole I've seen confidence like that maybe Steven Gerrard but even I think he had to grow into it a bit so listen can't wait hope that plays out in the game at some point Max Dalman versus Rio eh and whoever would have thought eh at Anfield they'd be singing my name well I want to say thanks everybody listen really appreciate you guys we'll be back live with Hi, I'm Nick, co-host of The Best One Yet You optimize your workouts, your portfolios and that rando startup idea that hit you in the middle of the shower but if you're not hydrated, you're already playing catch-up so we keep a stash of liquid IV in our studio One stick mixed into 16 ounces of water is clinically demonstrated to hydrate faster than water alone with three times the electrolytes of the leading sports drink plus eight vitamins and nutrients Whether you're traveling, exercising or podcasting the best business news ever.

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