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0:33Yes, guys, we are live. This is Rio Reacts. And you know what? When there's big news around Manchester United, we have to come on and be live, man. Anywhere we are in the world, we will be there. Steve made the call straight away. Yep, I'm on. Get me on. I know better person to have on my shoulder alongside me in moments like this than Steve Housen. So, Mr. May United, do you know what? I actually enjoy listening to some of your videos, Steve, on these, just talking about the club, the manager. Obviously, I know that the years we've worked together and been together, you have a huge passion for the club and it runs through you every day.

1:08So, I do enjoy seeing the reaction and the emotion that comes with it. And obviously, listen, the news has broken last night. BBC, especially, reporting that May United head coach, Michael Carrick his future will be decided at a meeting between one of the owners, Jim Radcliffe and some of the executives and directors and technical directors, football directors, Jason Wilcox Omar Barada and a few of the others so it's a shit show guys just to put it bluntly and Steve I've got to give you credit on Monday on the Rare Present show you talked about the club briefing the media on certain aspects that surround the club and news that surrounds the club.

1:50And this looks like it's another one of those moments where we're being told that there's a meeting going on tomorrow in Monaco and a decision will be made on Thursday. So I just look at it and think, imagine being Michael Carrick going into the training ground and the players are sitting there and going, oh, looking across the table at the players or across the pitch of the players, you're trying to put some instructions in place. And you're thinking, they're just thinking, let's look at the time and see when he's off. he ain't going to be in a couple of days, but what am I listening to him for?

2:19It's a really, really unfair situation for a manager to be in, I think, regardless of his character, May United. I don't think any manager should be put through that where their heads are next on the chopping board, people are talking about it because they've been briefed, and you're still having to go into that training ground and talk to the players and try and address the players when everyone, it seems, knows that you're going to be out of a job in one or two days when they've decided. It's crazy. They're not making a decision, are they? They've made the decision. The reason that we got the briefings last night is because the decision has been made.

2:53This is the final sign-off. It isn't a negotiation. It isn't a discussion. I think it's literally just this is, you know, I'm pretty sure the executives that have made the decision have made the decision. They'll give their recommendations to the owners and surely the owners just sign off on the recommendations of the people that they employ to make decisions. I think that's how it works. But you're right. Like, it's well unfair on Michael Carrick. Like, what do you even do as Michael Carrick today? You saw all, he would have seen all of the news, I'm sure, last night, the same way we all did around 10 o 'clock last night, where all of your tier one, Ornstein, Whitwell, Jamie Jackson, Simon Stone, literally your absolute big swingers of journalists, all got the same text message from whoever at the club, I presume.

3:46and all ran with the story, and they all said the same thing. So you know they've been briefed. So Michael Carrington this morning, drives into Carrington, half seven. What session does he put on today? You know, what do you do? You just get a... It's got to be a warm down. It's got to be a warm down, a bit of darts and stuff like that. You can't be sending out any kind of instructions and that, because some people will be looking and going, you ain't going to be here. Just before we get going, yeah, guys, we've got to put a poll out in the comments. and get everyone to vote. We need to see what the people are saying, man.

4:18See what the community thinks. Should May United sack Michael Carrick? That hurts me even to say that being the next teammate, but that's the talk right now. Should they sack him or not? Yes, a new manager is needed. Or no, give him more time. I want to see what the community is saying, what you guys are thinking. So get in the comments and put your vote down so we can see what the temperature is like. But you know what? I think we've also, you've got to look at it and give it a bit of context. Like Carrick's record, right? Like, since his win rate is 46.9 % since he came in January as interim, all right?

4:52However, like, since the start of this season, it's fell through the floor to 20 % win rate. We're sitting 18th in the Premier League right now. Eight points after 10 games. Three wins in the last 15 in all competitions. And is it... I've got an answer for this. I want to find out from you, Steve. Is it Carrick tactically, is he getting it wrong? Or have the players let him down? It's both. Okay, break that down for us. Everybody wants there to be a clean answer. And that, unfortunately, is exactly what our executives are doing at the moment. But before I get into that, I want to say these same executives and Jim Radcliffe all said they want to bring stability and continuity to Manchester United.

5:45These executives and this new ownership group under Ineos have hired and fired three managers in two fucking years. That's unacceptable. At what point did them lot start looking in the mirror and saying, maybe we got it wrong? Because if you're not even letting people have 12 months, Michael Carrick's had three, four as permanent manager, that's not acceptable. You can't say after everything that this club does at the moment is reactionary everything as soon as the heat gets on get rid but this was the guy four months ago you're not the guy now so you made a wrong decision four months ago and he's got to go okay cool no accountability from your side all right cool so back to the original question in terms of like sorry just on that point i'll let you i'll let you carry on so just on that jim radcliffe said when he'd done an interview early on that there's been far too many sackings of managers that means there must be a problem with the environment with exact words there must be a problem with the environment so the environment still must be in a bad way given the amount of sackings that they've done in a short period of time they've been involved they've made more sackings more frequently than they did under Woodward Ineos are sacking people twice as fast as Woodward was Louis van Gaal got a couple of years David Moyes didn't but Louis van Gaal got a couple of years Jose got a couple of years Ollie got a couple of years.

7:07People were getting a couple of years under Ineos. Sorry, under Woodward's thing. You get a year now under Ineos. So it's getting worse. So the environment's clearly getting worse, Jim, isn't it? In terms of what is Carrick getting it wrong? Yeah, I thought tactically, you try and put Mason Mount to mark Nico Paz. Anyone who watches 20 minutes of Como goes, Nico Paz is going to operate in between the lines, he's going to hurt you. let's put Mason Mount as one of the pivots and just completely ignore that as an option. He absolutely got that one wrong. In terms of we're going to try and press the Spurs centre-halves, have you never seen Deserby play?

7:50No, you mid-block him and you leave him to it and you force him to go over the top, what he doesn't really want to do. You don't let your forward line chase after him like puppies in the wind into the penalty box. That's literally what they want to do. I know you know this from having the boys at Brighton. They literally bait you into doing that, don't they? They ask them to put the foot in the ball to bring you that close. Yeah, they really, really want to do that. That's tactically naive. I've seen a lot of people saying he needs to be sacked just for selecting Deleuze. And you go, look, Deleuze is not having a good season.

8:25I think that's as kind as I could possibly put it. Dogu's been injured. Luke Shaw's been injured. Masraoui's been injured. We're playing Yorot right back. It isn't a case of us having Dennis Irwin made it a go and we're just choosing not to use him. This happens all the time that the players that aren't playing, and right now it's Shea Lacey and Harry Amas who have got bags of potential, but they're still unproven. There's no guarantee that you throw them in and they're just prime Paddy Evra. Do you know what I mean? But that's how people act about it. Like, get rid of the low, throw him in. And I'm not against it sometimes because I think, well, do you know what?

8:59Every defender that we've got is throwing one in. why not just let him throw one in as well might find out that he's actually pretty good and it kind of did pay off a little bit with Lacey certainly against Roma but on the other hand are the players letting him down massively so why are we bad this season well we are conceding an ungodly amount from crosses and set plays why? well I think there's technical reasons for it and I think there's things that I would expect them to be doing on the training ground and I expect that they are doing them on the training ground. I'd be shocked if they're not doing them on the training ground.

9:34But you've also lost Casemiro, who had this like superpower in terms of just finding balls that came into our box. That's a big miss. What he offered at set plays in both boxes. That's a really big miss. Bruno is a 20th of the player that he was last season for us. That matter. People have recognised that if you press us, we will crumble. And the quick get out of jail, if you'll be impressed is to go direct and long we're going direct and long to a center forward who's five foot nine i'm beating him in the air like we have got no plan b so people just step up against us and squeeze us and then that leads to even more pressure and even more crosses coming into the box which we can't defend you've got injuries to players that you didn't have last season you've not got this an improved squad you've got the same or a worse squad with twice as many fixtures that's the problem that United have got and yes the win rate was sensational last season that to me is evidence that Michael Carrick can do the job and I take that over any hypothetical that might come in and do better do you think that they're not going to make mistake do you think that you're not going to give a penalty away just because Pochettino or Eddie Howe with a manager next week that's nonsense do you think michael carrick was like lads let's level it up a little bit you get sent off this week you get sent off next week you give a penalty away this week you basically kick it in your own goal this week you just fucking fall over and don't defend like do you think he's saying that to him absolutely not it's not a lot of people i think a lot of people are going up just before we go again guys get in the comments right and make sure you type carrick if you believe he deserves more time or change if they want a new manager let us know guys in the chat right but I agree with you in that I don't think it's as black and white to go it's Michael Carrick who's tactically inept and he's just not good enough because he was good enough a couple of months ago when he was the most winningest manager when he signed all back in the last season got us in the Champions League so you can't just change after a few games after that a couple of months and go oh my god he's actually terrible but they're in a bad way but then there's you've got to look at the context and look at the background of it Man Utd have only started the same back four in two games in a row this season.

11:48I was going to say, if it's switching against Everton, right? Every other game has had to change because of injuries or suspensions, mainly injuries, right? And you never account for that when you're doing your recruitment or in the summer, right? So it's been like, Dogu come back the other day, gets a golden assist, played left back. Like, you go, where's he been? Been injured, been out. I'll send it forward, Cesco, out now to what? Probably January or further. Like, there ain't been a time when you've had all your four centre-backs fit or five of your centre-backs fit. There's only been two at best a lot of the time, maybe three, and one of them is normally coming back from an injury.

12:22Full-backs have been a nightmare in terms of injuries. It's been an absolute, like, shit-fest in terms of having players available consistently. So it's difficult then for any manager to get the best out of their team. But what I would say is that no matter what Michael Carrick is doing in terms of setting up his team and preparing his team, and we can pick holes in whether he should have gone for a higher press or should have had a mid-block or whatnot. You can't account for, Michael Carrick and Eastard can't account for continuous mistakes in both ends of the pitch, in both boxes. Defensively, we've been very poor individually.

12:56Collectively, been poor. So many mistakes, if it's not our own goal or a deflection because the body position has been wrong or bad decision, giving away a penalty or whatever. It's been too many consistent bad decisions in our own box. and the amount of chances we've created in games has been astonishing given the fact we can't finish any of them as well. It's been a joke. More shots than any other team. More shots than any other team in the league. That means we're getting to good areas and that would suggest that Myles Carrick setting the team up to be able to get into good areas. So that should be a feather in his cap.

13:33But then he can't finish them chances for his players that he's getting them into positions for. And that's been a big, big issue. Ahmad, Mbwemo, Cunha, all of them, they've all been getting great chances in games and we're not being able to finish our chances off. It's an old dad, everyone talks about it. It doesn't matter what happens. If you don't finish your chances, you get beat in games more often than not. And that's what's happening. When we went from Sir Alex to David Mize, I'll read that comment out in a second. When we went from Sir Alex to David Mize, we went from being champions to seventh.

14:11You was in that changing room. What, as a player, are you thinking when it's a different manager? Because my view is people overestimate what a manager can do. There's obviously outliers. And I think Sir Alex, being the greatest of all time, definitely qualifies as an outlier. He was able to get a tune out of teams that other people don't. But I think most managers, genuinely, I think Ruben Amrim is a competent manager. I think Eric Ten Hag is a competent manager. I think Michael Carrick is a competent manager. I don't think any of them are under a level of Sir Alex. I don't think any of them are the worst managers to ever manage a football club ever.

14:46I think they're probably just pretty good, pretty competent, absolutely know what they're talking about, absolutely know how to set up a team to attack and defend, but maybe not quite being Sir Alex Ferguson. When you was in the changing room, and it's David Moyes and it's Sir Alex, and we've gone from being champions to... How much are you looking at the manager and going, he don't know what he's doing? And how much are you looking at the mirror going, why am I playing so badly? Because I think that's something we'd like to understand as fans. Yeah, I think most players in the heat of the moment are looking for someone else to blame sometimes.

15:20Initially, your first reaction is like, well, what's going on here? And unless you've made a glaring mistake in that moment, you do look and start going, well, what's he doing? And start pointing the finger a little bit. But I think the top players will generally go, you know, let me look at my office first. Is my desk intact? Am I doing everything that I need to do? And then we can start pointing the finger. And I look back at that time with David Moyes. There were things that were going on in the training ground. Now, we're not privy to what goes on in this training ground to understand where, so why Bruno comes out and says what he says, why Martinez comes out and says what he says, right?

15:58But there was stuff going on when David Moyes was there after Sir Alex Ferguson that you're going, well, that ain't what we're used to, for one. and that's not what Man United does. Like, we over-prepared for opposition players. They're creative players, like a Coutinho or a Hazard. We're playing against Chelsea or Liverpool at the time. And we're doing like a whole session around those two players. And we're looking at each other going, this ain't what we bloody do. So, you lose a bit of belief in what he's saying and you're going, this is just not the right mind. We don't go into a game with this mindset, like stopping them.

16:34It's like, how are they going to deal with us? And so that does then lead to some negative thoughts, but it doesn't enable you to go out there and down tools. Like I think we've seen a few times this season where you go, well, the effort don't look right there. It doesn't look like... I think the effort's been there recent weeks. No, no, recent weeks. I think recent weeks especially, from the Roma game and the game just gone against Villa, the effort was at a maximum. them but there's other games before that you're going like oh are we really at it like I'm not saying anyone goes out there to lose but I'm going are we really putting in 110 % here are you running back as fast as you've run forward and I can pick out a good few clips that I've suggested and go to the players you know what can't really lie there don't look right that does it so and I don't know why that that creeped in and is it because a few of them are going you know the tactics of manager we don't agree with it.

17:33We don't agree with what the manager is saying. And the problem you've got, are these players honest enough to go physically, as a collective, as a team, we cannot match up to anyone man to man. So we need to protect ourselves a little bit and take a step back into the way we set up as a shape. But the manager is saying, no, I want you to press in these moments here. And then they're knocking heads. They're at loggerheads then. And there's maybe arguments. That's what happens in these moments because everyone don't want to be blamed. no one wants to be the culprit no one wants to be the person that has to give up his shirt so you start there are people that start jostling for position and shouting a bit louder emotion gets involved i hope that's the case there and i hope there's a bit of arguing going on but i don't know it's it's it's when you're not privy to what's going on in that change room or on that training ground and our people are reacting to tactics and and instructions it's very hard to really gauge and go that's what it is and so it's a bit difficult we've a chat here someone about in hundred one four seven does this show the problem with hiring ex-players with limited top level management experience nobody of work for people to be patient i think that's a fair comment you know that is a fair comment like when in times of need what is there to fall back on for some of these players for for for for and not not legends club legends inexperienced managers at the top level under the biggest spotlight, in the biggest hot seat.

19:04In moments where Michael Carrick came in and was flying, like I said, the most winningest manager last season from the moment he took over the club. But when it's going well, it kind of is easier. Then all of a sudden there's a bump in the road at the beginning of this season. Shaky, shaky confidence. Shaky, like the foundations are really shaky here. Lose a couple of games. Confidence goes down. Now, where's his experience to be able to draw on to bring these players back up. But that's why then you invest in a Steve Holland. That's surely got to be his role. That's his game, surely. He's the experienced one.

19:40He's seen it all. He's been around the best managers, biggest stage. But that's where he surely yearns his crust. And I'd like to think that he's the guy in there doing that. But, you know, it's difficult to... I don't think that's a harsh out there comment. I think there is a way you could argue that, that inexperience could be telling in these moments. Where you get an experience though from now? I mean, okay, Eddie Al's got some experience. Pochettino's got some experience. Conte's got experience. There's not a lot more than that though. And Eddie Al and Pochettino don't have the experience of winning a Premier League.

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21:56problem. I'm not even sure he's, I mean, okay, maybe he is a problem. I mean, ultimately, everyone's underperformed, probably including, like, I don't know if there's a single player that's been flawless this season, but there hasn't, actually. Everyone's had a stinker at some point. I think Manu might have been our most consistent performer so far this year, outside of him. Struggling. I think everyone's dropped a clangor at some point. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. That's the problem. When you've got individuals, or you can do with one or two being off off colour for a game but it's normally like I don't know six, seven, eight players that you go well he's a six and you can't have that, I don't care how good your team is if you've got more than like one or two off colour, you're going to get smashed every week and that's where we're at We've got how many off colour?

22:48Loads Absolutely loads. Even the subs So who's next then? Who's next? If you were going to go for a manager, I'm going to throw a few names at you. Pochettino. People are talking about him. It seems like it is him, doesn't it? Yeah, Nagelsmann. Eddie Howe's been talked about. Conte's been talked about. But Honus. I think when you look at Pochettino, his name's come to the forefront. He's at the front of the queue, it looks like, right now. And we spent some time with him in the summer. We've been out with him and his team. Jesus are great guys. They're really good guys and competent at what they do.

23:25But I look at Pochettino and I think one of his biggest assets is that human element to him. Like, and building confidence in some players, players being able to talk to him. And I think that's a big part of Manchester United at the moment. We've got far too many broken individuals. like I mean broken like one one jab and they're on the floor on their knees looking for a way out it feels like that's what it feels like and how that gets rebuilt is that coaching is that results is that somebody coming in and putting an arm around their shoulder like oh it's going to be all of that it's needed and I look at that group and that they're all of them names and I'd say Pochettino is probably the one that jumps off the list is be able to have more of the things that you're looking for to save a group of players and to build a group of players than the others, I think, from what I've seen and just the interactions that I've had with him over time.

24:32My worry with Poch is when you look at the squad he had at Tottenham, we all go, lads, it's Tottenham. But if you go back to front in that team, who was in there? Lloris, right? Damn fine goalkeeper. Back four, Carl Walker. Alderweireld. Vertonghen. Danny Rose, usually at left back. Good player, Danny Rose at the time. Midfield, I think you had Eric Dier. I think he still had Modric. You had Dele Alli. Who else did he have? Was Dembele there at the time? I'm not sure. He had Kane, obviously, Son. Yeah, right. That's a really good team, Rio. Like, that's some really, really good players. What did he win?

25:23Got to a Champions League final, yeah. Didn't come second, I think, in the league. Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. But the problem is, though, Steve, are we trying to win the league right now? No, but my point is, that was a really, really good squad. We're not a really, really good squad. we do not even have a we don't have a player of human sons level let alone harry kane level you know i think and then did he win one title and and not win a title in two years at psg when he had mbappe neymar messi ramos akimi come on man like he might have a great human element to him and I've heard some, I heard, I spoke about this a good few years ago actually.

26:11And it was when Matt Judge was at United, one of the agents told me, it was Hakimi's agent. Hakimi had come to Tottenham and Potts had took him on a tour of the new stadium, sold him the dream, basically took him on a date in the new stadium, had dinner with him in one of the director's boxes overlooking the pitch, one-to-one, told him everything that he saw in him, that he liked about him, how he wanted him to play, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And while they were in London, United got an office in Mayfair, hadn't they? His agent took him around the corner to go and see Matt Judge. And here's what I was told.

26:49Matt Judge asked him how many caps he had for his country. Like, the difference that must feel like. And you wonder why United can't get or couldn't get players over the line at the time. And you just think, I was impressed with that when I heard that about Potts, that he took it on himself. I mean, that might happen all the time, but it's something that we never get to see behind the curtain of about in recruitment when people are trying to be recruited and disgusted and this, that and the other. And obviously he never ended up signing for Tottenham. So for whatever reason, it was, it was. But I do like that about him.

27:28And from people that have played under him, it does seem like he's got a nice way about him. And his teams, I think they play pretty basic, pretty simple, pretty straightforward football. You tell me tactically what's massively different from what we're seeing under Michael Carrick at the moment. Because I actually think that they might be playing from the same playbook, to be honest with you, in terms of tactics. Yeah, I don't know, man. There ain't many names jumping off the page, though. Do you know what I mean? Like when you look at it and you go like Eddie Howe, because you're picking apart what's he won you say the same thing about Eddie Howe you say the same thing like about you go like it can't be just about winning because Man United aren't in a place where they're gonna and people keep going but we got standards no we had standards Man United had standards yeah the standards have dropped massively so let's be realistic about it of where we are yes we've got we want to get back to the standards that we had but there's a process to get back there so people please stop saying oh i can't believe you've dropped your standards yeah you have to because you're being realistic may united aren't fighting to win the league we can't put a team in place now and go that there is going out to win the league no we're going out to stabilize and to get better and that's what i said at the start of the season i'll be happy with champions league football again this season now how many games in are we in that if every fan got asked now where would you like to finish they'd all go i'll take champions league right we would we should has been saying at the beginning of the season.

28:55People are going on like, I was being stupid before. Oh, your standards have dropped. You're only going for Champions League. No, I'm being very realistic about where Man United are right now. The group of players we've got, where they've come from, what they've been through. And then last season, you've got a bit of glimmer of hope and everyone's going, oh my God, Myles Carrick done a great job. That's what I mean. That's why I'm not so quick to go, oh, he's not. Because last season, he was so good for Manchester United. He got a group of players that were beaten, were downtrodden, were lacking confidence.

29:23had no spark about them. Everyone on them, pressure, spotlight. He got them playing again. They look like a group, like a team again. And that takes some doing from Michael Carrick and his staff have played a big part in that. And then all of a sudden you're going, right, start of the season. Good murmurings coming out of the training ground. Looks confident. Everyone looks like, build on last season. And like, they just look like a group that are just shot to pieces again. And they're just back to where they were before Michael Carrick came into the squad. Now, the inquest when Jason Wilcox, Omar Barada and Jim Radcliffe and all of the other guys who are deciding this have to get to the root of what is that problem?

30:01Why has it gone from here, not here, but here where we've got back into the Champions League and we're looking very decent and consistent to now and players playing to their potential. To here now where we're under the floorboards and looking like we're going to get smashed every single week. like what's happened in that space of time? What are we doing differently? What's been said? What's changed the environment? What's changed the atmosphere here? What's changed the output from certain individuals here and there? Like why are we now having to go two goals behind every game to wake up? These are the questions that need answering.

30:39And I'm sure Michael Carrick's been in one of those meetings where they've been asking those questions. And if they're going to make a decision on his future and if they think, you know what, he's not right for it no more. But they've got to get to the crux of what that is first before you make that decision. Here you go, star.08. Sorry, star.08. Five years ago, before 10-hour, I'd have been fuming with Pochettino. Now challenging and finishing in two horse ways would feel like a title win. Shambles. Yeah, but that's the way things go, mate. That's the sign of the times. Sorry, Steve, go on. Yeah, but he did that.

31:16with a squad that's levels above ours. That's the problem. Who? Like, Poch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get you. I agree. You've got Harry Kane and Son up front. It's a different ballgame. Different ballgame. Guys, get in the chat and tell us who you'd like to get in the hot seat. Who are the guys you'd like in there? From a defence point of view, Kyle Walker, Alderweireld, Vertonghen is better than any of our defenders at the moment. Danny Rose. Can I just say something, Steve? Can I just say something? I agree with you, by the way. Can I say something? What about the£100 million question? Since Alex Ferguson was at Manchester United, nearly£100 million has been spent in reported departure-related costs for managers.

32:04Like, who is accountable for all these decisions? Like, what is going on? Like, we're having to sack managers and knowing we're going to have to pay them anything from£5 million up to£20 million. it's unbelievable work if you can get it as one of these managers, because you know, you're going to get sacked off a little bit and you're going to have a bit of time and go, you know what? I'm going to get paid up for it. This seems like the job for, for, for what? I have an idea. Go on then. Dust off your CV.

32:34We'll be done by Christmas. They'll have, they'll have bind us off by Christmas, but we'll have a reek good Christmas. Won't we? Are we going in thinking about the payoff before anything? Yeah. Do what we're doing. Do it. Yeah, we'll do it. Nah. And you know what, I think just seriously going back to it, when Ruben Amarin was there, when Ten Hag was there, when they were leaving, one of the biggest things that was jumping off the page for me and why I was at that point at the end was going, right, I think it's time to change now, is that I didn't see a clear football identity. I didn't see the philosophy coming through week in, week out consistently.

33:09And I think that's the confusing thing even now. I'm sitting there going, well, what way does Michael Carrick's team play? because especially the last two games, all we've done is chase because the game demanded that, right? But when the dust settles, is Jason Wilcox and Omar Barada going, right, Michael Carrick's got a way of playing that we are happy with and what we bought into and we can see that pathway and that journey. We can still see it. No matter the results, I can see that there and we've got a chance of getting there because we're going to stick to that and we believe in that. Is that going on behind the scenes, you think?

33:45I would, like I said yesterday, I would like to think that with all of the analysts and the data science that we've got, that someone's looked at us and gone, why are we so bad at conceding crosses and set plays? But the evidence on the pits suggests that we're not. I mean, when we're looking at replacements, what are you actually looking for at the moment? What do you think Manchester United actually need? Because it might be big time to keep us up the way we're playing. Well, I think that's the problem though, Steve. That is the problem, right? Right. Manchester United should have a consistent way of playing, a philosophy that would survive any managerial change.

34:20You look at Brighton, which are being, they're being looked at as a model and going everyone around Europe. I'm in Dubai. People are talking about Brighton, right? And going, look at their model. It's brilliant. It's so efficient. It works so well. They know the next two or three names on the list. If, if Herzlund gets taken by somebody, they already know who's coming in. They already know the targets are because those guys are going to play a similar way of football that they put out as a football club before any manager's got any ideas before you come in with your little fancy ideas mate this is how we play as a club and that's it if you can't play like that don't even sign the paperwork to come and join us and I think that's the that's the thing that I look at Man United right now we don't have them clear lines when we're going into negotiations with a new manager it's almost like I think the managers that they're talking to are going no no this is what I'm going to do this is what we need to do this is what's happening now and I don't think I think that should be reversed the best football clubs that doesn't happen do you think my wrestling's going into Man City this uh this summer and going guys by the way I've got a new idea we're gonna go this way no ain't happening it's not happening do you know what I mean so especially when the club is like you look at the football club and Man United it needs clear direction and they're the questions beyond Michael Carrick that I think need answering because we're not seeing a consistent blend of football or brand of football that you go yeah that's us every week consistently and that's not right

35:50the super chat there uh most important issue at the club is the glazers and co we need a full reset top down manager and players and owners how can we save united what would you do i agree i think for 21 years glazers have been an issue at manchester united for 21 years wayne rooney spotted it early doors and i think if you look i've said this for ages you look at like what united did into transfers and yours is included in this for the five years that preceded their ownership and then the five years post their ownership so from 2000 through to 2005 in that time we signed in wayne rudy cristiano ronaldo you um veron came in which ended up not quite working but we still went for it.

36:32Rude. We built a lot of foundations in that time. Post that, there was a lot more Anderson, Nani, Owen Argreaves. We spent big money on Berbatov at the time, but we didn't really sign the same sort of player. And then you lose the best player in the world in Cristiano Ronaldo, and you replaced him with Obertan, Michael Owen and Antonio Valencia. Now, Antonio Valencia was a solid player, but he wasn't a Ballon d 'Or winning player. And that's what we just lost. Do you honestly think the likes of Alex Ferguson were happy with that sort of window? And it reminded me of the window that Jose got. Jose gets us...

37:12Was it when he got us second? I think Jose gets us second. And then he gets Delo, Fred and Lee Grant to try and close the gap on City. Meanwhile, City are just doing City things. Some of them. I agree with you on the Glaser stuff. I think I agree with you about the Glazers. And I think there's been a lot of people that have tried to call me out. They probably don't watch the channel enough so that I do speak about the Glazers on here. And I do think that, again, there's so many holes you can pick in the way that they've run the club over the years, right? You need to come over to Qatar with me and we need to go and speak to Sheikh Jasim again and just see what the issue was there and see if we can refinance or something like that to do what he was doing before.

37:56But all jokes aside, I look at it and go, the fans especially, when you hear the, the, the, how negative they've been in the stadium and rightly so, because what they're seeing, the brand of football, some of the results, some of the way that the players have played, et cetera, and the mistakes have been made, they want answers and they shout out what they want to say. And they pay their good money to do that, but they're looking for accountability. And you're looking at it like, who is most responsible for Man Utd's repeated failures? Like, is it the managers, the various managers, do they have to take account as well?

38:28Or is it the leadership within the club, the Glazers? Is it the ownership? Is it the players? Do you go, oh, it's the players? I think it's a combination, personally, Steve. It is, but how do you... From 2004 to 2007, United were in the league. You was there, right? Was Sir Alex Ferguson a bad manager for three years? No. But you know what? Let me just take you back. Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me just take you back. I signed the first year by burning my man United we're winning everything right first year I signed we win the league again we don't win it it's three years we don't win it for isn't it yeah 0-4-0-5-0-6 and even given what Sir Alex Ferguson was and what he meant and how great he was trust me there were some players in that change room that are looking around and going like are we on shaky ground here are we going to get this back you do I don't care what manager where you are what the size of your football club is or how successful you've been at the time question marks still came and question marks were coming and happening at that moment in time right the difference is is what i say to a lot of people when i speak and the difference is is you've got someone like sranix ferguson at the helm the stability at the football club And when he says, Rio, don't worry, we'll be back.

39:55We're building. Trust me. I can trust that because it's Sir Alex Ferguson, who's backed up by Mr. David Gill, the CEO of the football club, who is solid, who's been there for years, who works in tandem with the manager, that consistency. The club hasn't got all that now. I'm not talking about they haven't got Sir Axe Bergson. They haven't got the things that I said are behind them that back those people up. The stability, you know what I mean? The strength at the football club. Those things, them components behind the name mean so much to feel and give the player the confidence to go, you know what?

40:36Head down, roll your sleeves up, just keep marching on. I don't even want to see where we're meant to be going. I'm just going to put my head down behind the gaffer, behind my next teammate and we're just going to keep marching forward. That's what this team needs now. Let me just throw some players at you, right? Right? And you tell me, what happened with Sir Alex? Did he just get better and win us three in a row after going with three without? Or did he just sign better players? Because for me, that's always the game is you just have to sign better players. You have to raise the floor of a team.

41:10Yeah, recruitment is number one. We had Tim Howard and Roy Carroll in goal, 0-4, 0-5, I think, right? Yeah. Did the goalkeepers suddenly get better overnight or did you sign Edwin van der Sar? Yeah, you're right. In midfield, you had Roy Keane left that season. You had Alan Smith. You ended up with Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves. We just made it better. up front you had I mean you still had Rooney but he was rotating through I think Bellion might have been there at the time yeah, Obertan yeah, and then Cristiano's matured from after his first couple of seasons and turned into an unbelievable talent we also brought in Carlos Tevez like did Sir Alex lose it for three years or did he just have players that weren't as good as players that he ended up getting and I think that's the game you look at I agree with you but you've also got to have a solid enough changing room and the foundations within that environment that you've got at a club that allows players time to grow like allows players time to adjust you know what I mean like you're on shaky ground you have not won a league for three years that's pressure at Man United yeah that's like everyone's knives and forks are out on your neck you're here it's your fork like in that moment for three years Man United haven't gone three years without winning the league for ages, right?

42:37So I'm sitting there going, I've just come here. Is it me? You start looking at yourself. Am I not good enough here? So again, like I said, you roll your sleeves up. You keep marching on. You keep working towards hopefully getting back to winning ways. But in that time, our club, because of Sir Alex Ferguson, I think because of Mr David Gill as well, it allowed players to grow. Rooney grew and came to the fore and became a main player. Like you said, Cristiano Ronaldo grew and became a main player. Don't forget people like Darren Fletcher became men. Shaysi became a man. Do you know what I mean?

43:10There's players that people we wouldn't consider important. The players in that change, them players are important to us. Do you know what I mean? Narnie grows. Anderson grows into being a bit more responsible. So, Jason Park becomes a hugely important player. But they've needed time. And, unfortunately, in today's game, I think less time is given. Like we're seeing my character now. Less time is given to players and managers.

43:39so there we are man I don't necessarily think it's the right thing either I don't think we suddenly stop making mistakes in defence because someone else is on the touchline yeah I agree have we got any more questions in the chat guys what have we got else we're going on here we go Kenshin4717 Carrick is doing everything to bring the team back to the right place so far except stubbornly not starting Zerksy just give the man more time it's a shame if he don't go if we don't get, oh God, if we don't get a full complete season. Oh, mate. Zerkes is not going to be the answer, guys. As well as he's done at the weekend when he came on, he's never shown really that he's going to be, like, we just put all our eggs in that basket.

44:22Reece30, can we discuss Simeone? It's ambitious, but he could build a dynasty at United. Passion, discipline, organisation and proven success. Wow. Do me a favour, mate. Simeone's on 38 million a year at Atletico Madrid he's not walking away from that no chance no way we haven't got the money the payout ain't enough to take him and prize him away from Atletico Madrid Conor O 'Reilly Premier League proven means nothing proven at what? mid table totally different step up different requirements it's a lazy method for recruitment I don't know about that I don't think you were saying that last season mate when Mbuma and Cunha were doing well for us and getting us into Champions League I think it's about managers.

45:04Is it about managers? I don't know. I thought it's a lazy method for recruitment. I don't know. I've took it as players. If he's a manager, yeah, I'm not too fussed on saying where they come from, these managers, as long as they get it right. Pep weren't English, didn't know the Premier League. Klopp didn't know the Premier League. Do you know what I mean? Arteta's one of the only ones who's won the league recently. You'd go, oh, he's a Premier League experienced person because he played there. Who else has done that? Sir Alex didn't do that. Arsene Wenger didn't do that.

45:35Yeah, man. Well, do you know what's killing me, though? Is the negative energy that surrounds all the shows that we're doing recently and lately because it's just negative around the club. It's hard graft, man. Anyway, Ryan Ado. As Man United's decline become a cultural and ownership problem rather than a managerial one and can rebuild around academy talent fix what a new coach cannot? Now, just on the academy, you've got to have good enough players to do it. I don't know. I've not watched the Academy enough. You've got Shea Lacey coming through, JJ Gabriel, but is he going to stay at the club?

46:08So you've got to have the players. And Man United are obviously renowned for the Academy and bringing blood in players through. But again, bringing young players through, Man United have done that consistently better than almost anyone, right? But they've been doing it in very good, settled squads. The environment that these young kids are now coming into right now, it's not great for a young player to be coming in there. You want them to come through and they will still come through. Don't get me wrong, but this isn't the breeding ground. I don't think they're the perfect breeding ground for young players to come because it's such a fractured group, man.

46:42Confidence, like I say, is on the floor. So, yeah, man. I don't know. Guys, just stay tuned and keep throwing in your comments. I think it's important, as I said, as a community. I think it's getting all your comments in and we can react to them as well and we'll be doing that online. But I think obviously the BBC, they've put out a statement and the news about what's going on this week. There'll be a meeting in Monaco on Wednesday and a decision will be made on Thursday for Michael Carrick's future. So that doesn't sound great. Obviously, the press have been briefed by somebody, which I don't think is great for Michael Carrick because he's having to go into work every day and face up with all of that going on in the background.

47:18I don't think that's fair on anybody. But one thing I do feel, and what Michael Carrick said, is I don't think he's a quitter and I don't think he's going to sit there and go, right, I'm not good enough, guys. I think he'll just keep going and keep working at it because that's been what he's done all his career. He's worked. He's a hard worker, honest guy. But we're going to have to wait a couple of days, it seems, to see what happens with Michael Carrick, guys. I think, again, keep commenting, guys. Keep shouting. Stee, anything to finish with on that? I just don't think the continual getting rid of managers fixes things.

47:50You might get a new message for a little bit of time, but it doesn't fix the underlying issue. And the underlying issue is the recruitment hasn't been good enough for a long time. You know, this squad has still got Lou Van Gaal's fingerprints on it. Signings that have been hung over for how long? Like, it's not good enough. Do you know what, Steve? I actually think with the recruitment, I think if...

48:14It's not just about the quality of these players, right? We can all have opinions and we'll have different opinions on like, is he good enough? He's a six, he's a four, he's an eight, he's a this, right? We could all have different opinions on that. I just think it needs that this squad needs overhauling because the confidence levels are so low. There's so many deep scars on most of these players here that I don't think that... I don't know if any of those guys who've got those deep scars can really recover and be absolutely fine when there's a little bit of a bump in the road in the future, no matter who's the manager, because they've been hurt so often, so frequently.

48:55wearing a Man United shirt. And I think it's sad to say that, but I just feel that because that goes back to my point about last season when Mark Carrick came here, how can he get so much out of these players and then all of a sudden there's one jab on the jaw and their legs have gone?

49:13That doesn't matter what you've done last season, you're built on fractured glass completely. That's what it seems like. Hard to rebuild that, man. So there you have it, guys. Another negative show on Rio Reacts. Unbelievable scenes. But yeah, that's where we are, man. And listen, if anything happens, if there's any news that breaks around Michael Carrick and he's time at the Football Club as manager, we'll be straight back onto Rio Reacts. So make sure your notifications are on. Stay tuned and we'll be back and we'll be keeping you up to date and commenting and talking about all things that are going on at the Football Club, among other things in football, guys.

49:49So stay tuned and thanks for coming on. Give us a bit of your time. Steve, top man, as usual. well played We'll be right back.

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