


13 May 2026 · 35m · 12 chapters

Casemiro discusses his Manchester United journey, emphasizing mentality, trophies, adaptation to the Premier League, and the role of fans; he also praises new manager Michael Carrick and reflects on leadership in the dressing room.
Casemiro is a veteran Brazilian midfielder/defensive midfielder, a multiple-time Champions League winner and former Real Madrid star who later played for Manchester United. The episode also references teammates and figures: Bruno Fernandes, Diogo Dalot, Kobbie Mainoo, and former United players (e.g., Tony, Luka Modric, Cristiano Ronaldo, Marcelo, Sergio Ramos). He compares Carrick’s calm, class-led management to Ancelotti.
United success is driven by mentality and consistency (“push, push”); fans provide constant support even after losses; Carrick “deserved” the job due to tactical understanding and improving the team game-by-game; Casemiro’s role evolved toward a “number six”/midfield anchor.
Champions League celebrations; goals vs Newcastle (Carabao Cup final header), Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, and other trophy-winning moments; his injury/position struggle in a second season; meetings and match-prep talks about club history (e.g., Leeds rivalry).
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Casemiro discusses his experiences in football, including memorable matches and team spirit.
“I ask for any people, because it's more close for me.”
Casemiro shares his journey from Real Madrid to Manchester United and the challenges faced.
“And I remember in the moment, it's normal.”
Learn about the challenges and differences between playing in the Premier League and La Liga.
“It's very difficult because here you have more money.”
Hear about the adjustment process for a player moving to Manchester United from a top club.
“And Cristiano got out, Rafa, David and I have surprise because I have surprise.”
Casemiro shares his most significant goals and the importance of trophies in his career.
“very good this game and we start losing and we draw and in the moment, in the first game, the moment we play very well in this game.”
Explore the tough moments in Casemiro's career and his mindset during injuries.
“I'm sure your staff, your people would have told you about this.”
Discuss the mindset required to succeed in football and Casemiro's personal approach.
“I had a chance meeting with one of the coaches under Ruben Ambrim.”
Insights into Michael Carrick's coaching methods and why Casemiro believes he deserves the manager role.
“But also I think it's interesting to talk about the ego.”
Learn how Casemiro values the history and culture of his club, highlighting key moments and rivalries.
“He pushes, but he knows the time pushes.”
Discover how Casemiro supports teammates like Kobe during challenging periods in their careers.
“I know because the people speak with me, but it's not everyone knows that Leeds are the best.”
Hear Casemiro express his gratitude and emotional connection to Manchester United fans.
“How would you like these fans who you adore and you've spoken so positively about?”
Listen as Casemiro reveals his five-a-side team, sharing insights on his favorite players.
“Yeah, my young boy is a fan unbelievable.”

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1:00I ask for any people, because it's more close for me. And the people win, win truffles, and don't miss. For example, I ask for Mike, I ask for Marcelo, for Tony. Everyone's like, no, no, I don't miss, I don't miss. Because you're happy, you're content. Yeah, of course, of course. That's true. The only thing I think about now when I retire is the big game I lose. I don't think always winning. I'm thinking fucking Champions League, Messi, Barcelona, two-time, kill me. FA Cup final. This is this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Sometimes I'm on the beach having a good day, the kids, and then all of a sudden Messi, head out goal, Champions League, kill my day.
1:55That's crazy. I remember when we won the second Champions League. And we celebrated an unbelievable celebration. And Luca, not Luca, Look guys, look guys, we need to win two more. We need one, two more. What? No, no, no. This team, this team, it's the best moment, the players winning one, two more. I remember for me it's perfect to remember this because And he talks, you drink too much. No, no, Kassi, no, no, no, you need to win two more. Yeah, three more. Yeah, three more. But he talks in this moment, look, you're crazy. You're crazy. It's crazy because we had a moment like this, we've not as many as you, but we won the Champions League and we won three league.
3:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Cristiano wants to leave. And I'm sitting there, he's my friend, but I'm sitting there saying, bro, we can win two more, three more Champions Leagues if you stay. But his dream is to go. And he was like, where are you going? It's like it killed me, like, because I know it's more difficult now to win because how good Christiano is, you know? So you're lucky the team is staying together. Yeah, it's very important. It's very important to stay in here. It doesn't matter if we win or you lose in the final. For example, Arsenal. I don't know if it's this season or next season. He won.
3:46He won. Of course, it's too close. It's the same as Paris.
3:54Four years ago, he lost for us. And Messi played there, Neymar. And why did he lose? Because he lost for Madrid. It was a target. Yeah, of course. Five years ago. Of course. If the fans, when Arteta became manager, they said, I have four or five years, you beat number two, number two. They said, please, please. Of course. Of course. Of course. Oh, oh.
4:26Wow. So you sit there, you sit there. Always there, always there. You, Kobe, Ugarte. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. And Bruno. Always there. Nice change room. Now it's much bigger as well, bigger. When we have this, maybe come in, maybe... Maybe here. Just this. And shower. And now it's more players. More players now. Yeah, now it's more players. Yeah, yeah. It's nice. So, what did you... Before the game, you played two touch, one touch? Yeah, two touch. Yeah, sometimes two touch. We have the gym now. We're straight. We have the gym there. And we have two touch and massage. And there is the TV. Push the tactical touch work.
5:17and music yeah Diogo yeah it's a good music goodness goodness he Portuguese music or no more Spanish he like more Spanish yeah he'd like no Spanish yeah he's good who in the change room is like the loud guys in the change room in this moment before the games Diogo Diogo like Bruno mmm Tom Tom he is very important people for us it's very important for us that's interesting for because he's not somebody that the fans will see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he pushes the train. The first thing is he pushes the train. He pushes every time the train. He pushes the game before the game. Of course, he doesn't play, but he pushes every time.
6:02And he explains your experience, no? He explains because he speaks very well English. But for me, Tom, everyone needs you one people, one ton. Everyone needed this guy because he helped in the room too much. That's interesting. I mean, he was, when I was here, he was young. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. And we'd kill him. Yeah. But he said that it was amazing for him. Yeah. Because at the time, he found it very difficult because all the old players are aggressive with him. Yeah. But he said to me, one year ago, when he came to United, he said, this gave me a perfect introduction to football make me more hard prepare me for the career yeah now now it's different i try every day about this with kobe kobe is unbelievable player but he needs train train train he needs fear that i play i don't play i need push the trend push the trend because Because this guy is the present and the future of the club.
7:14You think that's what we're about? It's an unbelievable player. It's number eight, it's not number five. Number six, no? In Europe it's number six. It's number eight, but the ball is unbelievable. He loves the ball, he likes the ball, he needs the ball. He comfortable with the ball. He never loses the ball. He's strong. He has quality, but he needs push every game, every time. Training, intensity, concentration, consistency. Consistency. He needs the consistency. But for me, it's the present in the football club. This guy is unbelievable playing. Come on, Kobe, come on. We read a man from this guy's side.
7:59Let's have a little look.
8:03This feeling when you're standing here, what's it like? The noise? In this moment, for me the best thing in this club is the fans. The fans. Support, help every time. For me it's a big surprise. For me the best thing here is the fans. Every time help, support, support, support, support. Doesn't matter the game, doesn't matter the game. I remember the game against Lyon. We lose 3-1, I think. And the fans help, support, help, help. And we changed the game now. But I think the thing the most surprising, it's my opinion, the thing the most surprising, the best thing in this club is the fans. The fans here, it doesn't matter the game, it doesn't matter you draw, you lose, you win.
9:04Every game. Also, I think, I see you obviously appreciate the fans, but I think your relationship with the fans is very, very good. I see after the game, the way they support you, you can see there's a connection. I think maybe, maybe because of this. I play in Madrid, I know, you lose there. I swear it's very difficult, no? Because it's about this. The player from Madrid needs a head. Because he needs to be strong. He needs to be strong in the head. And here, you lose in the next game, support again, support again, support again. For me, I love it. I love it. It's unbelievable for me.
9:53That is one of the things that I found when I was here at United as well, especially the week of big games. You're going to school, people speaking about it. Yeah, yeah. People speaking about it. It's like, build the game to be massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's about the big game. It's easy, no? Because it's a big game, but sometimes you lose and you think, oh, big problem in the next game. here no, here no, the fans no, the fans it's a big surprise for me, the fans help, help, help, help, big support for us, it's unbelievable, it's unbelievable and for me the best thing in this club, it's not just, I play, I'm playing in the biggest club in England, I smell this, but the fans, for me it's unbelievable, unbelievable.
10:55I always felt that when I came to the stadium and played here. You just feel the history, the old players, the big games, the moments. And you want to create your own ones as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've had some great moments here as well. Yeah, it's very good moments. Yeah, very good moments. Right, man, we've got loads still to come on this pod, but we'll be back shortly after this. host unforgettable backyard barbecues with savings from whole foods market get the good times going with made-in-house chicken or pork sausages and ready to cook kebabs for hassle-free flavor grab tasty flatbreads and their new balsamic chicken salad in the prepared foods department keep things fresh with organic red cherries strawberries and peaches at their peak and stock up on bug sprays and sun care must-haves make your summer sizzle at whole foods market This Father's Day at Lowe's, we have extra big deals for a very limited time.
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12:21Why when you left Real Madrid? Why Manchester United? I won the Champions League. Five times? No, but the last time I won. And I remember in the moment, it's normal. You think, it's normal to win the Champions League. And you think, oh, it's not normal to win the Champions League. So for me, and in this moment I won, I think of, I need change. I need new challenges. I need new challenges in my career. And the thing, the thing most important is I go home. I ask for my wife because the boss, the boss, the boss, every house. I was two years contract in Madrid and I'm very comfortable. and I asked for my wife, maybe, what do you think I changed the club?
13:20Is there anything that surprised you when you signed and you're going to train in the first couple of months here? Is there anything you thought, whoa, what is this? Or surprised in any way? Yes. Good or bad? It's a big surprise because everyone respects me. The biggest respect with me, the biggest respect with my career. you know, but I enjoy every day. I enjoy every day. I enjoy every day. And for me, every play needs to play this league, this Premier League, because it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. The Premier League is unbelievable. What's more tough, Premier League or La Liga? What's the difference?
14:04It's very difficult because here you have more money. You fight against Wolves. Wolves have the players' national team. André João Gomes go to the national team in Brazil. And he tried in the second division. Tottenham, you see the team, the club is unbelievable. He fights the drop, the relegation. Yeah, of course, because it's very difficult. Because in Spain, of course, it's not easy, but you have men of the team that don't have money, you know. It's everyone have money. It's very difficult here. It's more difficult here. It's absolutely. But also, when you came here, like how was it difficult to adapt?
14:56Because you have to remember, like you said, you your partners were Tony Cruz, Luka Modric, and then you had like Baal, Benzema and Cristiano. So, like, absolute world-class players. And then, no disrespect, you came to Manchester United. The players, the level is very different. Like, how difficult was that to adapt? I think it's about this. I score more times. I go to the front more times, you know, because you need more protagonists. I need this. We need this. We need more of this. It's different football, because the football changes every season. Football changes every season. Different clubs, different leagues, it's more difficult.
15:38And different players. But I enjoy it. This season you've scored more goals than any time in your career. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's crazy. My feeling this season is unbelievable. There's more responsibility for you to do more here, isn't there? More different things. I try. I try my times. I try more times on the pitch. I try. And of course, we have Bruno, Bruno Cross, a very good cross. But here I try more times. So you know when you signed, I know you talk about you don't like to be the protagonist, okay? You want to be the guy who's security, the fireman. Yeah. When you signed, Ten Hag signed you, was there a plan for you?
16:22Was it to be, again, the guy, the protagonist, or was it to be the guy number six? I think the number six because I swear, before it comes here, you see the team. I see the team. I see Cristiano, Hafa, David, and Bruno and these five, six players I pushed together and a good team, you know. And Cristiano got out, Rafa, David and I have surprise because I have surprise. is Lukšal, he's a very good player and I have a good team, I go there. Because in two years, change completely the team, you know. In the four years here, I change the role of the game. And on that kind of note, big moments. Your goal set United on their way to the first trophy in six years.
17:31The header, another header against Newcastle in the Carabao Cup final. like what where does that rank in your achievements in your career for me about Manchester United is the best why I love the trophies you see his face then I love the trophy because of course I score and any goals and I remember here in New York Trophy and Leicester, unbelievable goals and score, Borsmouth, beautiful goals, but Casemiro is about trophies. What about the goal against Chelsea, Stamford Bridge? For me, my feeling in this game was very good because we played very good, the team played very good this game and we start losing and we draw and in the moment, in the first game, the moment we play very well in this game.
18:38So it's impossible to explain my celebration in this goal but for me it's unbelievable. It's amazing this game, amazing this goal. And listen, you've had some real positive and great moments while you've been here but But it hasn't always been that way when you've been here. There have been tough moments. Yeah. What were the reasons for you that you maybe found it tough in the season after the first season you arrived? The football is not about you, no. It's about everyone. It's about everything. And the second season, I remember, wasn't good for me. But I remember I'm injured three months. I played 12 or 15 games in the center back, helping the team.
19:30And it's a very difficult moment because I played the center back. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard because it's, of course, I help. It's not about me, it's about the team. I help the team. But don't speak about the player because he's not playing in your position. You play in the number seven. Finished. Out of the thing. Everyone kills you because you're not playing in your position. But for me, it's here. It's here. Next. Doesn't matter. Next. I need change. I need change. I need change about this. I need change. For me, it's the head. The strong head. The mentality. The mental. It's about this. In the third season we played the final, the final in the Europa League.
20:20It's not, it's a good season. No. Manchester United need to see trophies, Premier League, Champions League, fight final. But here I play five finals. I win two trophies. This season I enjoy. And for me Manchester is living in my head. In your heart. Yeah, 100%. I think you'll live in a lot of the fans' hearts for a long time as well. I want to read a quote to you. I didn't agree with this quote. I'm sure your staff, your people would have told you about this. Yes. And I don't know how you're going to take this or how you receive this, but listen to what I was saying. I'm sure you remember. Leave the football before the football leaves you.
21:09So? So?
21:14It's your opinion. I respect your opinion. I don't like it because it's due to respect. It's a big due respect with me. I agree. Totally. What I want, I win in the football. But the football changes. The life changes. So look now.
21:38it's about this yeah and i and for me the best thing in this moment we speak in the in spain is i living in the big door i live in good feeling everyone uh miss casimiro you know so So about this, I decided to leave because I'm living good. I'm living because it's the same I did. Everyone missed me there. Everyone missed this team. Now it's the same. So the life changed. It's crazy. When I heard that I saw that quote, I was like, whoa, you forget quickly. It's the life. Everyone forgets very quick. Everyone forgets very quick. But again, the mentality. The mentality, because I was going to go straight back to that.
22:38And that's one of the key things that you spoke about throughout this interview. Mentality. How many times you've done that? We'll look back on the tape. But the importance of your mentality to come back. And it's crazy. I had a chance meeting with one of the coaches under Ruben Ambrim. I forget his name. And I was at a training ground one day. and I was speaking to him in the gym and he said to me,
23:05Casemiro is amazing. I said, why, why? I love to hear these stories. I said, why, why? He says, Rio, when he was out on the team, all he did, he didn't moan. He didn't argue. He's asking, how can I improve? What do you need me to do? How can I train better to get back in the team? And I'm sitting there going, whoa, he's won five Champions League, four La Liga's. He's a big player and he still wants to learn. Because this time when you're out of the team, easily you could say, Ah, I got home. See you later guys. 100%. So what is that mentality you have in this moment when you're out of the team?
23:40The best play in the world is not just about the very good player. It's about here, about the mentality. It's about the mentality. You don't stay in and you play good. I play good, now I don't work. No, I need more, I need more, I need more. I swear, and we talk about this. I don't enjoy because every time I push, push, push, push, push. I don't have time. To enjoy. I don't have time. I don't have time for enjoy. I need push, push, push, push. Maybe five, four, five years I enjoy, but... On the beach. Maybe. But for me, the best player in the world is here. It's the mentality. The mentality is next.
24:29Next. I don't play good. I'm not a robot. I know. I don't play good. But the next, I give everything on the pitch. I give everything on the pitch. And for me, the best thing is the best player is the mentality. The mentality is next. Next. But also I think it's interesting to talk about the ego. When you win so many trophies like you have and you're so successful and then you're not playing in a team that is considered lower in terms of quality, that must be difficult every day to go to training and to see the players and your head to be high and chest to be out. We speak about everything, but for me it's you go again, you go again, you go again the head, you go again the head, it's the mentality.
25:15Why everyone likes your interview? You think about this? You have big respect for me, for everyone, for the players. Everyone likes your interview. Everyone. You never do respect. You're very smart, very intelligent. Why? You speak about the room. You speak to everyone in the room. Lenny, Diogo, everyone. So everyone likes an interview with you because everyone is very smart, very intelligent. Your mentality. I appreciate that. Because here is not just the question is not good. This guy is in football. Carragut. Yeah. You don't even know his name. It's unbelievable. It's not just an easy interview but you are always paid.
26:11I think always when I do the interviews like this, I'm always, or when I'm speaking about the players, I always try to first respect the guys. And when I see the player, I want to be able to speak to the player and to be open. And if I say something personal or too much and too hard and beyond football, it doesn't feel like to me. Yeah, of course. And everyone has big respect with you. Everyone. Everyone. I appreciate that. Forget me. Right, Karrick. We spoke in the car a little bit. Karrick becomes the manager now. How much have you enjoyed playing under Michael Karrick and why? He deserved it.
26:53He deserved it. Why? The team played very good. He will win any games. The team improved day by day, game by game. The team improved. So for me, it's a big problem because in my opinion, he deserved this opportunity. So, it's special for me because he's playing the midfield, he talks with me midfield, from midfield, it's more easy, you know? But for me, he deserved the opportunity because the team is very comfortable, the team plays very good, we have big wins, big ones. so for me deserve this opportunity what what's um why has he been good like what what does he do what's he like behind the scenes that makes him a good manager that you've enjoyed for me he play in this level why is this i talk again you why you you know you know is what the feeling the players what the anti-lochi is a big manager because he understands he played no he played he played He knows what the player needs losing.
28:11He pushes, but he knows the time pushes. He knows. So for me, he deserves absolute. In my opinion, he stays. As a guy, I've shared a changing rhythm for many years. I've known him since he was young. Always quite calm, quiet. Does he ever go crazy? No, no, no, no. He stays calm every time. He stays calm every time. He has class. I like it. Like the player, the same. I remember in the game, Newcastle, we lose this game. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he kills everyone, but with class. Just class. But he kills him, but with class. So for me, it's a very good manager. And the best thing about this, your staff is very good.
29:11Your staff is very smart. Wow, because the staff, a lot of criticism when they get the job. At the start, in the media, many people criticise the staff. Yes. But they're very good. Yes, very good. Steve is very intelligent. and Johnny, Johnny, Jonathan. I've heard of him in the league. Yeah, I know, he played in Madrid. He's a funny guy. He speaks Spanish, I have a good feeling with him. So, Charlie, you are prepared for physics. So, it's very good stuff, it's very intelligent. But for me, the best thing, he knows where's the club. He understands the club. I remember we played against Leeds and your meeting is about the story of this game.
30:01He was talking about the history of the game. Yeah, he talked. I know because the people speak with me, but it's not everyone knows that Leeds are the best. Big rivals. Yeah, I remember the flight, the Munich, and this week he spoke about this. Hey guys, this week is very important for the club. He knows what the club is. Like Ferguson, this is what Ferguson loves. It's amazing. Yeah, because you see the meeting, he knows where to be. He knows. For me, it's very important for this. I just want to go back to Kobe mainly because he had a situation where he's out of the team. Did you play any role in trying to help him in this period of his career?
30:59And trying to help him to understand you're not in the team, be calm, work hard? Yes, I talk for him about this because I love Kobe. I love Kobe. In this moment he doesn't play too much. And I talked for him and Kobe is not the... Maybe it's the first time he doesn't play, but it's not the last. It's not the last. You don't need to drop in the training. You don't need to drop in your head. You need to change. How? I don't know. Work, work, work. Talk with the manager what you need to change about this. You need change. That's what you've done. Of course. Of course. I go with Amorim. I go with what I need for.
31:52I play. I can. I can play in this team. You need this, this, this. Okay. I try. I try. But it's not the last time. It's not the last time you are current. Because for me, this guy is the present and the future of the club. This guy is an unbelievable player. He's an unbelievable player. And we're sitting here at Old Trafford now, where you've had some fantastic moments. How would you like these fans who you adore and you've spoken so positively about? How would you like these fans to remember Casemiro? Before I talk about this, I need to say thank you. Thank you for everything. I am very happy.
32:37I enjoy this club. I enjoy this stadium. I enjoy it. And I never forget about my music. The song. Yeah, the song. And another thing is for me, it's unbelievable. I cry a little bit more and Casemiro stays one more year. No chance? No, I need to go in the high level. The Manchester United live in my heart. Thank you very much. Thank you for everything. Not just about me, my family. It's not Casemiro speak, it's family Casemiro. It's my family. Well, your son is a United fan. Yeah, my young boy is a fan unbelievable. He cried, the team loses, he cried, he knows the son, every son. He pushed the team and he stayed there in the box and he pushed the team every time.
33:47Last thing before we go, 5-1-side team. We always do this. We've had some great teams like Bex, Cristiano, they say the best players, five players they play with. They give you. No goalkeeper. No goalkeeper is not football. No, it's not football. So, it's very, very difficult for me. Some big players. Did I play or...? The players you played with. I still play. Cristiano? Tony Luca? That's quick, easy. Marcelo? Marcelo. Why Marcelo? You spoke about the other guys. Marcelo is just this guy. Surprised me. Every day. Just it's every day he gives one thing surprise for me. Every day. Special. Special.
34:44Yeah. It's unbelievable. With the ball. With the ball. With the ball. Every time it surprises. Every day, wow. And the next day, wow. It's unbelievable. A big, big talent. And Sergio Ramos. Top captain. Top card. Top card. Neymar. I push Neymar. Six.
35:16Neymar, Bezema, Bale, Pep, Varun. Okay, so your five is, your five is. You're definitely a five. Sorry, sorry. Cristiano, Luca, Modric, Toni Cruz, Marcelo, and Sergio. I win trophies. I win trophies with him. Okay. Sergio Ramos. Listen, ma 'am. Thank you. I'm so sorry about my English. No, no, don't tell me silly. It's not my Portuguese. I'm so sorry, but I enjoy. No, no, listen, you show great spirit, character, resilience, being at this club and the way you've respected the club and carried yourself here, I think it's been amazing. So good luck in your next part of your journey. Thank you very much.
35:58Thank you. Take care. Thank you.
36:19We'll be right back.
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After the journey from the training ground where Casemiro discussed his career before joining Manchester United, on their arrival at Old Trafford, him and Rio discuss everything about his time in Manchester whilst sitting in the Stretford End and paying tribute to the supporters.
From dealing with “disrespectful” comments from pundits to helping younger players like Kobbie Mainoo through difficult times, nothing is off limits here as Casemiro opens up and surprises Rio even more.
The pair discuss the big moments like winning the Carabao Cup but also the difficult times Casemiro faced when he was out of the team - along with what’s actually required from players to be able to cope in those scenarios.
There is a huge amount of praise for Michael Carrick - how Casemiro describes the way he operates reminds the Brazilian of Ancelotti and Rio of Sir Alex Ferguson!
This is an interview like no other - enjoy seeing a different side to the player that is worshipped from the seats they’re sitting in.
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