Casemiro in my car! Why Gareth Bale was “most complete” Real Madrid Player | Neymar To WC26? 🇧🇷

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0:47Yeah, of course. Because he attacks, he defends, he scores ahead. Everything he does is very good. Very quick. Too strong. and for me, Bayley is an unbelievable player.

1:09Today's Rio meet is with Casemiro, an absolute legend of the game and one that I've got huge respect for. One of the greatest holding midfielders the game has ever seen. Five Champions Leagues, three league titles and two Cups that he won here at Manchester United. Andy wanted to do his farewell interview with me. So I'm here at the training ground to take him on a bit of a journey through his career and we'll end up at Old Trafford to discuss everything about his time here in Manchester. And I think he's about to jump in the motor with me, so listen, I can't wait. Let's go. Cass, how you doing man?

1:43Getting the studio. Yeah, I love it.

1:52I appreciate you doing this as well by the way. I like it. Thank you so much. Because it's always nice when you get these moments and you put the trust in us to do this. I appreciate it. I want to take you back to Brazil. What was it like for you growing up in Brazil? Was football everything for you always? Yeah, in Brazil the football is passion. It's the first thing every day. Everyone loves football. So the football in Brazil is unbelievable. Everyone talks about pressure. You're going to a tournament like for England. Oh, pressure. I always think like places like Brazil, the pressure is...

2:31No, no, that's not the same. I have been frustrated about this, but in Brazil the pressure is very hard. First time you got called up to Brazil, I saw Ronaldinho was the captain. Yeah. What was this like? It's a long time ago. It's a long time, but in 2011, the first time I go to the national team. And when you go in and Ronaldinho is like the big icon, the big legend, like what's the feeling for you? How was he with you as a young player? How did he receive you? No, it's because the first thing is unbelievable, because you see Ronaldinho and in my my generation is Ronaldinho, Ronaldo. And Neymar would have also been playing as well, no?

3:18Unbelievable. Yeah? This guy is unbelievable. For me, my generation is Cristiano, Messi and Neymar. Neymar is a little bit more behind because he won too many trophies. But this guy, he'll… Like what? In the training, in the game, you see, for me, this guy is, I see, wow. Yeah. Every time, every ball is, wow, wow. Is him, he can do things that even Messi and Ronaldo can't do? You know, because Cristiano and Messi is every time, every time, long time. Consistency. Yeah, it's consistent. For me, it's the most difficult in the game, in the career. But Messi and Cristiano is another world. Aliens.

4:05Yes, yes. So, saying that about Neymar, the way you spoke about him there, you can see that you put him on the highest pedestal. The World Cup, do you think he should come to the world? If it was your decision, would you bring him to the World Cup? My decision? Yes. But my decision you need to pick first is, hey, Neymar, you don't play every game. He plays every game for me, it's not perfect for him. I think he comes and the game is not close, the game is new-new and special assists, special goals is for him. He could change the game. Yeah, he could change the game. And we don't have this player in this moment.

4:55So for me, in my opinion, but it's Antelotti. Just speak to Antelotti, you know, just speak to the boss.

5:05You spent some time out of the squad, the Brazil national team, for about a year or a year and a half. And then Ancelotti comes back and gets the manager, immediately brings you in the squad after I think two games, captain. How important is your relationship with him? I have good, very good feelings. He's my friend, he's my friend. I know what he likes, what he doesn't like. I know that Atilotti is not just my manager, he's my friend. What makes him special? The same. Take it easy, slow, calm, relax and... Corriba. Yeah, I remember in the game that we need to win this game. We go to the World Cup, if it's Paraguay and in São Paulo.

5:59and everyone everyone speaks speak speak too much in the half time and he comes hey guys wait I go to smoke I go back five minutes in a new dream full of guys in the half time no he's very calm and guys he speak about about after this he speak and everyone's okay okay okay this guy is amazing That's different, isn't it? Yeah, he's different. He knows everything in the football. He's experienced, isn't it? Very experienced, you know? So, for me, he's a very good man. He's a very good man. Five Champions League in nine years. That's the crazy thing. But what's the pressure like at Madrid? Because I always think when people talk to me about Manchester United or I talk to guys at big clubs, one of the big things is always the pressure is different.

6:54When we're in just La Liga, everyone speak and the champions we win just the champions everyone speak and La Liga so never satisfied yeah yeah we win the champions and La Liga I need to see the next season it's about this it's Ramadid Ramadid I like I like Ramadid because it's you don't look back it's next And for me, what the Manchester United have the same Madrid. It doesn't matter how, but we need to win. You need to give everything on the pitch. For me, it's about this. We need to win. And in Madrid, if we won this game, next. Don't look back. Yesterday doesn't matter. If you look back, you forget where you're going to go.

7:52Of course, of course. You need to look at the front. Is that tiring? Is that exhausting for you, like mentally? Yes. And for me, the thing most important, the players from Madrid, is about who. I see there any place is a very good player, but don't play too much because of this. Like who? Give me an example. I don't expect about the names, not because I don't like it. but no but you say they're good players but maybe just mentally was difficult maybe um for example amazing amazing amazing display mateo kovacic he win the he win the he won the champions league in in chelsea he played city is unbelievable unbelievable unbelievable player but sometimes he don't play he doesn't play he play and i respect your opinion but Sometimes he doesn't play and I need to play, I need to play.

8:57No, he needs to be here. Strong here. Sometimes you don't play, you don't play, but stay calm, stay relaxed because he's top player. Matoko Bacchus is a talent. He's top. Matoko Bacchus is top, top player. But he doesn't stay strong here because I respect him because he needs to play. So you let the frustration take over? Yeah, of course. He needs to play, I know, because you have the Toni Kroos and Luka Mollis in the front. But for me, this guy is an unbelievable player, and he's talking in the after the game, I need to play, I know, I know, but we need calm, we need strong here, because he goes to Chelsea, he won the Champions League, he comes here, he plays every game, He comes in Manchester City, he plays very well Manchester City, I have a big respect for him.

9:51But for me here in Madrid, it's the thing most important to the player because it doesn't matter you play good, you don't play good, but you need to look in the front. Look in the front, look next, next game, next win, next one, next one. You mentioned your partners, Luka Modric and Brody There's no way we could sit here and talk and I don't speak about you three together. What was so special about you three? Because these three midfielders, when we talk about the best midfield partnerships of this generation, you three are in that conversation. For me, it's the connection. On the pitch, we don't speak too much, but you look at it and know what you like.

10:38It's the connection. It's impossible to explain. Did you work in training or? Yeah, of course. We work, but I sit on it. I know. I know you like. So for me, for me, it's the connection. The connection is right. So I love it. Right, man, we've got loads still to come right on this pod, but we'll be back shortly after this.

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12:13Your role in this partnership with the three of you, like, can you just explain to what you saw as your role in the team? For me, in the number six in Manchester United, and what Real Madrid need to sacrifice, need to sacrifice, have them. You sacrifice, you have protagonists. Yeah, yeah. It's your work on the pitch about the team, because this team sometimes is not tactical, it's not good tactical, you know. Sometimes, and I remember in Madrid, sometimes everyone go because we need win. It doesn't matter if I won. And you stay. Yeah, I need to stay because in this moment, I don't need protagonists.

13:01I don't need to score the goals. I don't need to score because I need protagonists in the fan. So I do this and I have the tagline. Yeah. Luca and Tony, when I mentioned their names, what is special about those each individually? So tell me about Luca. What's special about Luca? For me, both is about touching the ball. Have the ball every time. the ball is not never is is fire never never never doesn't matter the the moment the game you pass for for both yeah comfortable yeah giving the ball even when you lose it if you're one nil one zero down they take the ball and for me in in this moment why why this player is is so big is unbelievable players because in this moment both have more ball more ball so when you're losing they want the ball more yeah yeah of course yeah yeah of course and i remember luca and every game and we start no good and you're not feeling good in the on the pitch and kassi even the ball give him the ball, I solution the problem.

14:23Tony Cross is the same. And one thing that I like to speak this is Tony Cross works too much. He works too much? Too much. For running? Too much. Too much. And defend. Tony Cruz when he used to drop deep, really took it to start the playmaking. Toni Kors drop, drop on the left, Marcelo up, Cristiano go inside and ping. You remember it quick, isn't it? It's very quick. No, because it's natural. Every game is natural. And everyone knows what we do, but it's impossible to defend because the players... Too good. And the Luka, for me, is the more the thing. He turns. Every time control, turn. turn, play forward, play forward, turn.

15:16Every time you see the game, every time Lucas, turn. You pass for him, he never controlled back. Turn, turn. Every time he turned your upper bar, it's very good, very good. It's mad you say that. I think it's like every generation is the same. You respect the players, you play forward so much because there's risk, it's hard to do that. Full Skolls, when we had Skolls in our team, we played the ball to him. His first thing is to turn and play forward. But the problem is the new generation is about statistics. Yeah, statistics. You finish the game, he does 97 % of the passes and what's the pass?

16:00Pass back, pass back, pass back. Negative passes. Yeah, negative passes. You need to play forward, It doesn't matter if you lose the ball. But, of course, sometimes you need to play good. But for me, what I love Bruno, what I love Bruno, Bruno plays forward every time. Every time he kills the opposite team. He kills every time. He kills. Every time he kills. I kill. You give me space, I kill you. I kill you. I kill you. I love this because sometimes you lose. two or three balls, but you look in the front of that. And for me, I love the Bruno. I love the game, Bruno, because this, every time, assist, pass, pass, pass, pass forward, pass forward.

16:48No, Richard, I love that. Just talking about great partnerships in this field, obviously, you guys had a big rivalry with Barcelona, and at the time you had Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. Yeah. What were those battles like with those three guys when you were Real Madrid against Barcelona against the free midfield for you and the free midfield for Barca? Big fight, big fight. I can see the smile you love. Do you love it? Yeah, of course, of course, because it's a special moment, you know, special moment. In the moment, you don't enjoy it too much because it's too much pressure and you need to win.

17:26But you look back now, it's beautiful, beautiful days. But it's not just about the three midfields, Cristiano, Bale, Benzema, Neymar, Suarez, Messi. It's about the game. It's about the game. It's beautiful games. For me, this classical stopped the world. This is like a crazy memory for that whole generation. Those players you just named there. And now you've named them, I want to go on to them. Cristiano, we both have a common connection with you. I played with him in Manchester, you played with him in Madrid. I had the entertainer, you had the killer. Like, what was it like? What was it like for you when you were with him?

18:05No, Cristiano is... For me, your ambition. Every game. It doesn't matter the game. Of course, Barcelona is true, but I remember playing with Levant, for example, at home. The small teams. He killed. He needs score. He needs goals. Goals, goals, goals. goals. This ambition, this guy is unbelievable. For me, it's the thing most, admiration for Chris. Chris, I love him because he gives me any goals, any goals. He gives any goals and trophies. It's amazing, this guy. You mentioned Bell, Benzema, Cristiano. Give me a bit of insight like Benzema, when Cristiano left, he rose again to be a leader in the team.

18:56Did you always see this type of player in him? Why did the team have big success? Because everyone completed, everyone. Casemiro, Toni, Luka and Cristiano, Bailey, Benzema. Cristiano, everyone knows we start the season with 15 goals. Minimum. Minimum. Fifteen goals. Fifteen goals. We start the season. We start the season with 50 goals. And Cristiano and Benzema, he's number nine, but it's not number nine. It's number ten. He dropped too much. He gives space for Bale, for Cristiano. And Bale, he needs space. He needs space. Benzema gives space. Cristiano, Bale. Room. Room. Space. space, space. This play is more complete in my career.

19:50Complete. Baile. Baile. Cristiano is score, Cristiano 15 goals, minimum 15 goals. But Baile is attack, defend, head, score. Cristiano is the best. Cristiano is the best. Cristiano is another one. Cristiano gives the... take off Cristiano the conversation. But for me, Baile is the best, more complete. ever played with? Yeah, of course. Because he attacks, he defends, he scores a hand, fouls. Everything he does very good, very quick, too strong. And for me, Bale is unbelievable, unbelievable player. Wow, that's amazing. You played with Ronaldinho, with Neymar? Yeah, of course. But for example, Neymar.

20:38Neymar doesn't defend. No, no, no. He's another player. But Bale, in the best moment, Bale is… And Bale, he scored big goals for you in Madrid. Yeah, in the finals, in the finals, the Cup, in the finals, the Champions League. He scored two times in Liverpool, against Liverpool, against Atletico Madrid in the final. 100%. Cristiano is another… Yeah, he's out of the conversation. He said it's true. It's not a conversation, but for me, Baile is top, top, top, top. What was it like? Interesting, I played against Messi in two finals. And he was the difference, why we lost. They were a great team, but he was always the difference.

21:28What was it like for you? Because that's right in the area you play. That's where Messi lives. What was those moments like when you were playing against Messi? How difficult is he to play against? And what do you see when you see Messi? Against Messi? Yeah. Messi, I play against Messi, I swear. And every time I don't speak too much, I don't push too much because I'm not angry. You want to be a friend? Hello. Hello. I give tackle, but sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, because it's impossible. And only it's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. I need help. Impossible to play against. Yeah, you need to stop.

22:07It's impossible to stop Messi. It's impossible. I see Barcelona, no play good, Messi, go. Three points. I remember one game against Sevilla against Barcelona, nil-nil and Messi in the bench. Nil-nil, 18 minutes, Messi comes, two nil, two goals. He won only. He's amazing. Only. As far as Messi, Cristiano is another road. It's another road. It's impossible. In the best moment, they arrive. I remember Cristiano before the game, every time. KC, today is an unbelievable day. What? What, Chris? Today is a special day. Chris, come on. Feel it. Smell. Why? Smell. Smell go. Smell go today. It's unbelievable.

23:15This is the same. And he always say unbelievable in England. When he say here, you're unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's his word. He said today I feel unbelievable. Give me the ball. He's the same in Madrid. It's amazing. It's crazy. But these two players, I feel lucky we played in this generation to be with them. To witness their greatness, you know, to witness Messi and Ronaldo. To see this and you play on the pitch live, it's a dream for me. I was very, like, honoured to do this because they're two of the best ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because for me, it's the generation Messi and Cristiano.

23:53It's different players. Different players. One is number 10, Messi is number 10, Cristiano is number 7 or 9 now. But for me, Cristiano pushes Messi, Messi pushes. Both pushes. Like Federer and Nadal. Yeah, absolutely.

24:16Cass, I've loved talking and reflecting on your time in Madrid with Brazil and stuff. We're just approaching Old Trafford now. there's so much more we've got to talk about, especially about Manchester.

24:35Carrick becomes the manager now. How much have you enjoyed playing under Michael Carrick and why? For me, it's a big problem. Yeah? It's a big problem. I want to read a quote to you and I don't know how you're going to take this or how you receive this, but listen to what I was saying. I'm sure you remember. Leave the football before the football leaves you. So... So... Manchester United is the best. Why? I love the trophies. I love the trophies. You see his face then. I love the trophy. I love the trophy.

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