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Rio Ferdinand interviews former Manchester United teammate Anderson (Anderson “Ando”), focusing on Anderson’s rise from Brazil’s favela to Porto and Man United, and what it was like living with Cristiano Ronaldo—plus Anderson’s mentality, penalty-shootout confidence, and club culture.
Anderson is a Brazilian former professional footballer who grew up in Grêmio’s stadium after losing his father at age 10, joined Porto as a teenager, later won the Golden Boy/Golden Ball-type “best young player” award, and played eight years at Manchester United. Rio Ferdinand is the host and former Man United defender.
Ronaldo invited Anderson and Nani to live with him for a year, cooked sometimes, and they competed/fought constantly at home. Anderson says his “big balls” came from overcoming hardship and that he took a crucial Champions League final penalty despite pressure. He credits Sir Alex Ferguson’s bond for letting him stay despite late/messy behavior.
Costco/Cristiano supermarket trips; Ronaldo calling Anderson “Vivinho” and fights lasting days; Anderson taking penalties after teammates hesitated (Patrice said he’d go last); plane incident where Nani pranked Piqué with a pillow; Anderson’s early life living under the stadium and Grêmio “as father.”
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Anderson shares his experiences living with Ronaldo, including the dynamics of their relationship.
“always my life is being like this, you know, from Manchester as well.”
Anderson recounts his journey from Brazil to Porto and his experiences as a young player.
“So for anybody who's listening to understand that, the Golden Ball is like the best young player in the world.”
Anderson discusses the challenges he faced as a young player and his rise to fame.
“I go live in the club because in Brazil before you can't live inside the club.”
Anderson talks about signing with Manchester United and the role of Ronaldo in his life.
“So when you were young, Marcelo was on the bench.”
Anderson describes the competitive yet friendly environment in Cristiano Ronaldo's household.
“Because when I'm younger, you don't pay my bills, I pay my bills myself.”
Learn about the everyday experiences of living with Cristiano Ronaldo and the camaraderie among teammates.
“One week, you have to pay for the supermarket, and then another week.”
Discover the intense competition and playful arguments that characterized the relationship between Ronaldo and his teammates.
“It doesn't matter who he is, I treat everyone the same.”
Understand the mental challenges and pressures faced during crucial matches like the Champions League final.
“No dad into the final Champions League final.”
Explore the relationships and bonds formed among players off the pitch, including memorable stories and interactions.
“Why did Giggsie think that you would be good to take a penalty?”
Reflect on various humorous and significant moments involving teammates both on and off the pitch.
“That guy for me has been very important.”
Anderson shares anecdotes about living with fellow footballers in his village.
“Look, where I live, live me, Piquet, Evra, Di, Ivon Dersa.”
Discussion about playing alongside football legends like Ronaldo and Neymar.
“Great guys, great men, played soccer on 24-7.”
Anderson reflects on his experience playing for the Brazilian national team.
“My team is Robinho, Diego, Fonsantos, Julio Batista, Luis Fabiano, Michael, Juan, Julio Cesar.”
Anderson compares the challenges of joining Manchester United and the Brazilian squad.
“I played in the Olympics with Ronaldinho.”
Anderson shares his first impressions of Sir Alex Ferguson and his coaching style.
“I think for me, because I don't understand what Ferguson would say.”
Discussion on facing rival teams and notable players in football matches.
“When you were playing against teams, I don't know, because you made your name in the Man United team against Arsenal, Fabregas, Gerrard against Liverpool.”
Anderson reflects on the lessons learned from playing alongside Paul Scholes.
“If I take the line one, because people think you play attack.”
Insights into Cristiano Ronaldo's mentality and quest to be the best.
“In today's game, where would you play today?”
Anderson discusses personal connections and friendships within football.
“When I'd say Ibram, Ibram, that time Ibram went 11 million, I think in a year.”
Anderson shares thoughts on the legacy and changes at Manchester United.
“Every one month, guys, can you put Anderson back?”
Rio and Anderson discuss their experiences at Manchester United, emphasizing club culture and camaraderie.
“The first time he did very well the first time.”

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0:49There is one former teammate that people are always asking me about. His name is Anderson. Look where I am now. From the favela. No mum, no dad. I live my house when i left 12 years old i go live in the club he joined the club ages 19 years old and was billed as a replacement for paul skulls he was titled as the next one aldinho the golden ball winner from porto i don't understand what i said i'd say what this guy to say i look at him i'd say look he's coming with my girl he's a kid that everyone wants to and i'm delighted to be able to show you why we all loved him so much in our dressing room.
1:27I always have good contracts. He used to always speak about, hey, he used to say, Ando, do this. He said, yeah, I have good contracts. I also got a little bit of an insight in what it's like to live with Cristiano Ronaldo. Anderson lived with him for a year. So you were going Costco, buying the food, and then Cristiano cooking the food sometimes. Cristiano sometimes. In the house, we fight back. Everyone loves each other. I always felt that you guys loved each other. And they said to me once that your room was the messy room. No, no, no. And why he's still got an issue with Ryan Giggs? I go to the penalty.
2:02Ryan Giggs, bastard. Looky fags. Put Anderson for taking the penalty. I'd say, what this guy doing? Shut up. So, guys, make sure you enjoy a different side to a player who now lives a quiet life away from the spotlight and out of the night.
2:24Ando, Ando, Ando. How are you doing man? Very good to see you. Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you very much. You good? Yes, always good. You're looking good my friend. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. Where have you been man? Everywhere. I've been working so much. Everyone always asks, where is Ando? Yes, because I like my life quietly. I like my life quietly. always my life is being like this, you know, from Manchester as well. I just stay quiet. Not quiet, but together, you know how I am. When you have a girlfriend, you have to be a little bit quiet. More calm. Calm down. I always enjoy the life, always.
3:07I'm very happy how I am, you know. That's one thing that everyone always says, Ando, always enjoying life. always happy with life, do what you want. But you need real sometimes. Yeah. Because the life is too short, my friend. Yeah, it's true. You never know what's going to happen. Yeah, it's true. In me, it happened to somebody too fast. I come from Brazil when I'm 15, 16 years old. To Portugal. I go to Porto. I stay there for two years. I go to Manchester for eight, nine years. Together you. Yeah, I know, I know. But what was that like though? You know, like, you went from Brazil to Porto. Was that hard for you?
3:44Because they speak Portuguese. It's not hard, but when I come from Grêmio, I come very quickly. I have a great team in Porto. Me, Pepe, Quaresma, Bozingua, Bruno Alves, Vitor Bahia, Alessandro Lopes. I have a great team, that's a good team. Lucho Gonzalez, Marlon Suns, they have a good team. After I come to Manchester. But before that, before I come to Manchester, I broke the leg. in Porto. I think they'll make me a little bit down a little bit. Yeah, because when you came, you won the Golden Ball. Yes. So for anybody who's listening to understand that, the Golden Ball is like the best young player in the world.
4:28Like the likes of, I think, Pogba. Mbappe's won it. Liminio Mau. Aguero. Aguero, yeah. All the top top. Pato. I think Pato won as well. All the top young players have won it. And you won that award. Yes. What was it like for you as a young kid walking into Manchester United? George Mendes called me, called me, I don't also the telephone. Yeah, I said. George Mendes called me, he called Anna, where is Anderson? Where is Anderson? He's eating me, he's asleep. Wake up him now, tell her, drive to Porto now. She'd say, okay. I called him, what's happened? I don't do nothing. I said, I don't do nothing.
5:04I said to him, I don't do nothing. When I see, I see David Gil, because he's very tall. too yeah i say carlos queroz e george menz e manuela is like my mom she'd say okay you go monster that's it oh to me go monster yeah you go monster the contract is it say okay because i have big injuries before i finished the very good he was losing against chelsea in his quarter final yeah And in Porto I had a great comeback after my injury and I said, Manchester signed a contract that day. Me and Nani both together. Did you speak about money? Was it a big difference? No, it was a big difference. I always have good contracts.
5:48He used to always speak about it. He used to say, I have good contracts. No, I have a great contract, Manchester. I have a great contract at Porto because when you come 15 in Brazil, I start to win Brazil for like 10 ,000 pounds. Per week? No, for months. But in Brazil that time, like 20 years ago, it's like 200 ,000. I'm just 15 years old. I come from Grêmio, I come like, I win 100 pounds for 10 ,000 pounds. is crazy. So your background when you were young was you had a lot of money? I have no money. I come from favela or normally all the people come from very bad place. I live in my house when I was 12 years old.
6:36I go live in the club because in Brazil before you can't live inside the club. You lived in the club? In the club. I live in the Grêmio, the stadio. I live here for two years. The club looked after me for two years. The club gave me money. I'd say the club Grammy was my father because I lost my father when I turned 10 years old. Yes, I lived in my house when I was 12, for a try. What about your mom? My mom is good, but my mom doesn't care about me like his son. I tell you, I have a very difficult life. I come out from my house, I'd say to the club, or you bring me here or I go international next next next club I said no no I go look your situation I'm the only guy from the city living in the club oh wow I live in the club before two years so you're living underneath the stadium yes the door is like this door you come inside you know where the guy saves drinks yeah I come inside he leave like 15 boys 11 12 boys inside the room Wow.
7:42Just one small... So you saw football as your way to get out? Yes, my way out. Yeah? My way what? My way. Because when you come from favela, your head is... Think so much hard. You have to have big balls. Because before you look after you, after you're forming. After I go to the national team, it's Branco. I started the national team left. Branco, the left back? Left back. I'm left back, like everyone. Yeah? Yes, Marcelo is my bunch. So when you were young, Marcelo was on the bench. Marcelo is the bunch for me. I'm playing. No way. Yes, go look the video. I'm left side. I have a little bit more quality.
8:21He's sending me the midfield. Wow, I didn't know that. Marcelo, Denilson. Remember Denilson? Denilson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Midfield. Yes, he's the same much together. All the boys together. After that, I have, I tell you this story. How I become a professional, a football professional. The club, no pain salário, because Brazil have this. I was just 15 years old at that time. I bought two phones from the national team. Because when you go to the national team in Brazil, they pay you every day. They pay you every day, give you some money. At that time, they give you 1 ,500. That time, for young, it's good money.
9:05and I come back from Barcelona to the national team. I'm a little bit hungry because I need to pay my apartment. I moved off to the club. When I'm 15 years old, I moved out to the club. I rent a small apartment outside. And I come to two telephones in a dinner, lunch. It's same in Carrington where you have food to the place. Like a canteen. Yes, canteen. and throw two telephones on the table like this. The professional manager comes, looks at me and says, look boy, why you have the two telephones? I look at him and say, you don't pay my bills, I pay my bills. Because when I'm younger, you don't pay my bills, I pay my bills myself.
9:53He'd say, it's shocking because everyone's been quiet. He'd say, why you talk like the manager like this? and after I'd say to me what's your name? You don't need to ask my name. My name is Anderson. I'd say that to him. He'd say like this. He'd go outside. Everyone'd say, the man is going to kill you. Now you go off. Now you go off the club. Now you go off the club. When I come out, I just hear, psst, psst. Hey boy, come here. Say, why you talk to me like this? What do you think you are? Where you, in Brazil have some, where you play for talk to me like this yeah yeah yeah yeah i'd say to him i play england i play barcelona because i go national team yeah yeah national team he'd say oh how many goals you have for a young team i'd say 39 no yeah i'd say 39 okay yeah after i go to dentist first time you ever go to dentist the president called the dentist they'd say telly understand to come here let's say okay now i go the club is going to kick me off the the president look at me he'd say go get your boots you go to training professional terminal how old 15 15 wow i'd say okay that week you have it same manchester manchester city double derby against inter i come in the restroom room I'd say to the guy okay give him my boots the guy everyone I tell you one that's you never change your mind why you do like this I come in the door I'd say bastard I go to professional everyone look at me and say this boy is mad yeah no chance the guy is kicking him and I come to play the professional and the manager say to the put me in the middle of the players and say look this young boy just say plays better to everyone and then i come to the match the derby gramey lose one zero inside home one man less and the manager come at me looking me like this you play good yeah now win the game for me
12:1615 years old? Wow. I scored my first goal. I scored my first goal in the derby. I lost 3-1. I've been the best player. After I go to the professional. Wow. So that confidence that you had as a kid, I felt it when you came to Manchester United. You came, obviously it's a big club, big players. Take me back to the first day you walk in the club. But was the confidence still high or was it a little bit like, oh, what's happening? No, high because in that time I was so young. I started 18 years old. Yeah. And when I came out of Porto, you come big from Porto. They buy me 35 million. It's big money in that time.
13:03I'd say Cristiano Ronaldo as well. I call him, he'd say, how's the club, how's everyone? I always tell him, I give him my career at Ronaldo like 50%, 80 % because he helped you so much. Is it? Because Ronaldo take your phone, he's inside his house. Is it? It's not normal, everyone, come on, come on, play, bring you, you can live in my house for one year. So, take me back. So you signed for Manchester United and you have the same agent, George Mendes. Yes. Yes. And then when you're there, Cristiano says, you can come and live with me to help you. He takes yours. Me and Nani inside his house. You and Nani lived with him.
13:43Yes. I remember that. I remember because he takes yours like his brother. That guy looks after yours. I have to say… Wait, he cooking for you? He cooking for me. He looks after you so very well. I have to say… But he was young as well. He was 20. Yes, he's buying the food. You have to help in the supermarket. I say, come on. You need help. So you used to go to the supermarket? Yes, yes. So you have to go. So you and Nani go? One week, you have to pay for the supermarket, and then another week. It's like this because you live free in his house. You bring in the training ground every day. Come on, you have to.
14:20Did you give the money for petrol or not? No, no, no. Because that time, Cristiano Ronaldo is more bigger than yours. That guy looking after yours like so much. Not so him, you, Evra, everyone, because the group takes yours very well. Just take me back to the supermarket. So you go to the supermarket, what are you buying? My English is very bad at that time. When yours goes to Costco, for buy, you go to Costco, go buy, bring everyone, everyone bring each. I have my room, then you have a room. But every day is competition inside the house. Fight 24-7. Me and me and Ronaldo fight all the time. That's one thing when anybody asks me about you and the change room, I always say, Nani, Ando, Cristiano, always arguing.
15:08I remember in the change room after training or before, I would hear you shouting, shouting, and I'd go, this is aggressive, what's happening? And then one of you go, Rio, what about this? And I'll go, I'll say answer, and one of you go, see, I told you, How are you? Do you know what I mean? Because Ronaldo don't like to lose. Yeah, yeah. Ronaldo don't like to lose. Remember when you play Piggy Pong, he... Yeah. Me and he... Come on, Rio! Come on! He's mad. He don't talk together for two days, bro. Two days, he don't talk to me. Some people... Listen, listen to him. People don't believe. I used to smash him sometimes.
15:40Did I just smash him? Yeah, sometimes. Ronaldo plays very good. Yeah, he's good. He's the best player in the club. But when he wins... Yeah. We go crazy. We go crazy. He go crazy. He start to fight. He don't talk to me for one day, bro. He said, Ronaldo! What the fuck? Because he called me Vivinho, he didn't call me Yando. Ronaldo called me Vivinho. I called him Costelet. I said, what's happening Costelet? I won! I won! You know how it is, you know how it is Cristiano, but it helps you a lot. So just take me back to in the house, yeah? So in the house, after the game, what are you doing in the house?
16:15After the game, fight. Normally, fight. Because Nani, Ronaldo wants to go to the swimming pool for recovery. Recovery? Me wants to go to sleep. You know him. You want to go out? Yes. I want to go. Nani, I don't know, Nani wants to do his own stuff. Nani wants to do his own stuff. He always competition. Doesn't matter what. If you play like this, competition now. If you go play tennis like, because Ronaldo before is in his old house, he had tennis school he he he he he fight play real is 24 7 fight because i i you know how i am so you so you were going costco buying the food and then christiano cooking the food sometimes sometimes in the house always fight but everyone loves each other yeah i always thought you guys loved each other and you you they said that to me once that your room was the messy room no no no that because my room is the is the clean one because i'm not kind of i'm coming england but i have a great relationship between you ever i'm you know it's close to every day to christian or ronaldo i have my own life i know my sister better the christian yeah because you go to the clubs christiana stay home you go to the club because i know everyone you know because i'm talk to everyone.
17:37It doesn't matter who he is, I treat everyone the same. It's mad because I saw a quote from you saying that if you had 5 % of Cristiano Ronaldo's mentality, you would have been like a better player. That's true. Did you find it difficult to have a mentality like Cristiano or be more professional? I tell you, if I have 3 % or 5%, because the quality always is real. Because when I come first in Manchester, I go no hand-in, brother. I have one picture in my mind when the final Champions League would say to me, look, you have the big balls. You'd say to me because in the final Champions League, I'm like this, sitting in the bank, the game is finished.
18:18No, the game is finished. Nearly finished, no? I go to the penalty. Ryan Giggs, bastard. Look, look, Fags. Put Anderson for taking the penalty. I'd say, what this guy doing? Shut up. Go, go, go, go. I'd say when I come inside the pitch, the game finishes. I don't touch the ball. Your only touch of the ball in the Champions League final was the penalties. I'd say, real, 18 years old. Manchester won Champions League for like 80 years at that time. Since the 60s. Yes. It's bigger than the team, my friend. If the best player loses the penalty, Cristiano loses the first penalty. Imagine how I am. When I start in the middle to go to the penalty, I remember the time I had very bad moments in my life, the time when I live in the club.
19:10Sorry, so the 30 seconds when you walk into the penalty, you're thinking about all of this? All of this. All my life I come short. Like all the years when I live off my house, to that moment, I'd say, look, look where I am now. From the favela? The favela. No mum, no dad. No dad into the final Champions League final. I'd say I'm here. I'm here because I think God wants me to be here this moment. And you're thinking about all of this. I think all of this, I'd say, I can't miss this penalty, my friend. And I said to you big balls. What does that mean? Because after when you look at me, it says, you have big balls because I take the penalty.
19:57because if you see, have so many experienced players in the pitch, you can take your scores, so many players, you… Patrice said no, no penalty. Remember, remember, the manager said, yeah, this is this guy. The manager said, yeah, the manager said in the huddle, so you know when the penalty shootouts happened, the team came round and the manager said, right, before anything said, guys, who wants to take a penalty? And some guys were going, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Patrice said, No, not me, not me. I'm last. I have to be last. Because yours is first year. My nanny year. Yeah. But normally I take all the time penalties in Van der Sar.
20:36Always say, hey Ronaldo, he's mad against me. Always. I look and say, hey, check is big. Yeah, massive. It's massive. At that time he's one of the best players here in Van der Sar, the best goalkeeper in the world. I'd say, look, I have to kick it strong. if I go like it's going to catch my ball yeah in training this is what he said in training he used to mess about oh no no yes in the game in the game I start everything I think I use a little bit myself I look I have to give Kiki strong right man we've got loads still to come right on this pod but we'll be back shortly after this
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22:15Why did Giggsie think that you would be good to take a penalty? Because I always take penalties in training. I think, you know, before I understand, take everything you'd say, understand, do, understand, do. I think I understand how the boss should do the penalty, the confidence. But before I say, when he say, no, don't look at me. Because I already take off my shoes, everything, the socks. When your boss look at me, come on. But man, I think that year is the best moment. I think the 80 years I've been in the club, I think this is the best moment because it's good fun in that club. Because you started training at 10 o 'clock, everyone go home at like 3 or 4 o 'clock because everyone enjoy each other.
23:05Stay inside. After training in the gym, in the pool. In the gym, in the pool, talking, joking, 24-7. Massage. Everyone has your club, you have bastards, ugly, beautiful, guy go out, everything you have inside. The boss protects you anyway. The change room was a good place. That room is one of the best. I play so many players, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Robinho, but that team, that players, Yeah, some people are quiet, but not everyone together. Always the same. Outside of like Ronaldo and Nani, which players helped you? I think Evra, you, everyone. I don't think I have problems with anyone. No, no, no.
23:55It's not weird, but again, you have a great relationship with Jay-Z. Jay-Z is crazy. Fletch. Fletch, Wes. Fletch, Wes.
24:06I remember you coming to him, I have a dog, his name is Wes Brown. I don't know. I put the dog, he's one guy. I love one guy the most. I think Ferguson. I love that guy. That guy for me has been very important. Sometimes I do so many shit in the club. You come late. You come late, but that guy always cares about me. Why? You know what? I knew I was going to speak to you one time, I wanted to say to you, like, why did Ferguson love you so much? Why did he let you get away with so much? Because anybody else doing what you do, late sometimes, sometimes messing in training, whatever, but you were a good boy, they would be gone out of the club.
24:53But you stayed eight years. Eight years. Three times new contract. No. Three times new contract. Bastard. Bastard. But why did he why was he like that with you? Because I think he had the bond. I think he together because not every player go take the penalty to you. I tell you no. Because I play against big players. I play against Fabregas, always slap him. Always slap him. Is it true or not? You never lose. Yes, I play against Madrid as well when you play Totem. I always score against Tottenham. I play against Giroud. I play against big players. I play with Makalilev, Lampoa. Years that time, Manchester, I play against Gilberto.
25:41I know against Arsenal, always I know I'm going to play. 100 % I know I'm going to play against Arsenal. That is crazy. And the manager loved that. Yes, because the training always is hard. People think Manchester, The training is very hard. Always competition. Me against the scores, scores make Nani cry another one time. Why? Why? Why? I forgot why. Because I think in Fulham, I think Nani is the character. Garaneve kick Nani. Yeah, I think Nani complied and kick Garaneve. After scores come, BAM! The boy shout Nani and Nani goes cry. I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he... Yeah. Like this. Oh, man.
26:29So many players cry. Nani slapped Pique as well. Oh, I remember the slap on the plane. Pique, oh. Remember that? Nah. I forgot. I remember that. I forget. I remember that. What happened was, right, we was on the plane traveling somewhere. I don't know where he was going. Champions League. Champions League. Champions League, yes. Pique was a young boy in the squad. And I remember Nani was in front. I was behind. and then PK was a few seats behind but PK was crazy then funny guy and you know you get on the plane and they give you the wash your hands the pillow
27:05yeah so ever started and then PK through and then I remember Nani turn around like this and when Nani is doing slow you know he's serious you realize no more turn around and PK got the pillow boom in his head and he's laughing and And Gerard was laughing. I think Nani was asking who it is. And someone said, ah, Pique was the one who'd done it. And then the plane landed and Pique started to walk to get off to go past. And Nani let him come. And Nani said, hey, where you at? Pique don't understand where you're coming from. Look what's happened. He went like this, like that. He was the quickest, like that.
27:44After Pique leave. After Pique leave the club, after Pique leave. Next year, Piquet live in the club, Champions League, World Cup, and everything, Shakira. I know nothing about her. Look, where I live, live me, Piquet, Evra, Di, Ivon Dersa. In the same village. Yeah, the same development. Same village. I'd say to my friend, no one trusts me, no one believes me. Piquet, same dorm. me hey piquet no shower no nothing no nothing just put flip flop is nothing i do nothing you go in the refrigerator just coca-cola and two fries chips no nothing oh boy he's lovely guy oh oh piquet is funny he's going for a cigarette in my door i said piquet come on he's going for a cigarette in my door man what are you doing oh piquet is funny He was good.
28:40He was good. But he also had great score, bro. Yeah, great guys. Great guys, great men, played soccer on 24-7. Oh, the computer games. The computer games. You used to play, you used to get slapped a little bit. No, no, no. No, the environment was very good. No, it's amazing because in my career, I played together Maradona. You played in Maradona? No, for charity. Charity, yeah. Okay. Last game, Ronaldo Phenomen. I'm in a bunch. For Brazil? Yes, for Brazil. Wow. That guy come in the pitch, he had 20 opportunities. No. That is crazy. He was unbelievable. He's unbelievable. He's unbelievable. Was he the best?
29:23That time, Neymar's in a bunch as well. Wow. That time, the last game, Ronaldo Carriere's last game is his. So in your squad, when you went to Brazil, it was like Ronaldo Phenomeno, Neymar, Robinho? The last game, I won the Copa America, the international team. My team is Robinho, Diego, Fonsantos, Julio Batista, Luis Fabiano, Michael, Juan, Julio Cesar. I won the Copa America, the international team. Wow, you've got a big team then. I have that team. I won 3-0 against Argentina. You know when you play for Brazil, is it different to play for Brazil? What's your desire to play for Brazil? It's different because Brazilians normally, if you don't have a big name in Brazil, because I come very short, I just go for the National Cup because I play in Manchester United.
30:15I have a very great year, 2008-2009. I go to the National Cup, I never played in the Cup, always wanted to play, but I never played because that time Brazil had a crazy team. In your position, who? I had Gilberto Silva, I had Josué at that time, who had more… At that time, I didn't have so many big, big players. Ronaldinho was playing, no? Ronaldinho played. I played in the Olympics with Ronaldinho. I was losing against Argentina, but the team Argentina is crazy. The team Messi, Riquelme, Aguirre, Di Maria, Mascherano, that is a good team. What was your first day training like in Brazil? You walk in there like, I don't know, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Neymar, Ronaldo, Robinho.
31:01What's it like to go in there? Because that comes when I'm 18. A little bit. No, because I tell you, because Robinho, I know Robinho for Manchester City. Because he's a lovely guy. I come from my city. So all the guys, when I come, they call me Jurema. Because I have long hair. Always look after me. because I'm so lucky because all the clubs, all the teams have been, I have great guys. Same in Porto. Porto, I have Pepe, Quaresma, I have amazing guys. Always, I'm very lucky I have great, great, great guys. I never have a bastard, I never have one bastard in the club. Is it? Always have... Yeah, my shot sometimes, one or another one, I need slap someone.
31:43But always, you always have great guys. What was tougher, walking into the squad at Manchester United or walking into the squad at Brazil? I think Manchester United. Is it? Yes. I think for me it's more hard because I'm scared about the language. Oh, language, yeah. I think for me, because I don't understand what Ferguson would say. The first year I'd say, what this guy would say? Because when I met, the first time when I met him, when I come to the club, I look at him, I'd say, look, he's coming with my granddaddy. My granddaddy. My granddaddy. You see him like, he smells red in the sea. Like, feel proper.
32:19always like this flip flop come like Jesus say look this is gonna be my manager that's it hey my mother hey honestly don't know this is the god of the managers of the football who told you this Manuela Manuela say Jesus look at him he's old Manuela he can see I don't know he's can't see but that guy know every single player if you if he He played against us, I go play against this, he go play against this, he go play against this. When you were playing against teams, I don't know, because you made your name in the Man United team against Arsenal, Fabregas, Gerrard against Liverpool. Did the manager come to you and speak to you about these players?
33:02When you were playing against Arsenal, when you were playing against Arsenal, me and Vra, you know yours, I was like, ah, going slap in the boys. Oh, easy going to win. Always you talk like this. That's when you start winning already. Because I remember the 82, when he's already 82 home. 82. 82 home. The boys take me off because I start taking a piece. Yeah. I remember the boys take me off. Yeah, you take the mic. Yeah, I start taking a piece because they take me off. No, respect, no, because of respect Arsenal. because the mentality against Arsenal is so strong at that time. It was 3-0 already.
33:43The rivalry. Yes. It's 3-0 already because you know what Fabregas is going to do. I know Fabregas, the quality of Fabregas is the top midfield. But I know one against one against me is not going to take me. Why? Because my quality broke the line. If I stop against him one against one, he's not going to take the ball from me. The bump should be... The bunda! He's not going to take. Yeah, I know Jason Parker is down, all Giggies down, all Cristiano Ronaldo down. Because when you play, normally you play 4-2, normally. When I play in the middle, I know Jason Parker is going to be alone all the time.
34:26If I take the line one, because people think you play attack. You play never play attack. Sometimes they hold the way. They hold because in two touches, they're going to front the goal. It doesn't matter who is going to come, you have to come inside how you play. If you don't come, you're out. Manchester United's midfielder, you had to learn a lot. Because before I was nearly behind the number 10. Number 10? Yes, I had to come down. Because the scores come injured, you come inside against Wigan. You were 0-0, the match was 0-0, the boss put me in the position. yours went 2-1. I think they were the highest first day in midfield.
35:02So, when you're playing in midfield, so for instance, Paul Scholes, what did you learn from Paul Scholes? Everything. But you know why it makes me angry? Because I do everything in the pitch, it doesn't matter what I do. I come out, the scores come inside, score. It just makes me mad. I do all the worst, the dirty job in the pitch. The scores don't do nothing, He just did two movements. He scored. Intelligent, huh? He's crazy. Because at that time, I don't have that mentality. Because at that time, the football was different. At that time, football was the power, Taki 24-7. You play against...
35:45Defend attack. Defend attack. You go play against, imagine it. Look at the Champions League final. You play against Chelsea Ballack. Makaleli Lampard. Makaleli Lampard. Look at Robin. I mean, look at the team, the guys. I go play against Fulham. Strong team. Anelka. Anelka kill Piquet. Bolton. Anelka kill Piquet. Remember, remember. They were killing Piquet. Remember. Out. Out. Anelka take Piquet like this. No. You play against Sunderland. The small guys, Peter Kraus is going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stoke, Stoke, Stoke. Stoke away. It's a hard game. I'd say to my friend, hey, these are shit players now.
36:30I don't understand how many difficult players could play against Timmies before. They could have so many players. I'm believing I played in Roma. I played against Xavi in the Astrid. I don't touch the ball. I don't touch the ball. It's true. It's true. So, you know, the manager, did he ever say to you, this is what I want, this is the plan for you, for Anderson? I think that when he brings me behind, I don't understand the beginning because it's not my position. Number 10. Number 10, it's not my position. But I'd say, okay, because I can't play down. I think I'll have more opportunities down because that time you have Tevez, have Rune, have Ronaldo, have Ryan, have Justin Park, have Nani.
37:15I'm not going to play now. He said to me, these are going to lose you here because you can't break the lines. Running with the ball. Yeah, one running the ball because that time he was not having that play in midfield. He can't run it. That was your super strength. Yes. There's something different for you. Different, different. Because kick, I'm not good kick and a goal. Head, I'm not good head. But I have power. I don't lose the ball easily. I think that is my goal. In today's game, where would you play today? In the same position. You know why? Number eight. Number eight because now the guy is just passive, passive.
37:53You don't see player breaking the line anymore. That one midfielder now can take a run the ball. It's true. You don't have it. This will be different. If you have one boy come take the ball, don't be scared in the middle, broke the line, this guy will be the best player. That's true. That's why Laminio Maui, everybody loves him. Yes, because he broke the line. you don't see players now just pass, pass, pass, pass. When you was living with Cristiano, it reminded me something. When you was living with Cristiano, did he talk about being the world's best player then? Yes, always. Is it? Always. Because Cristiano Ronaldo, his mentality is crazy because he wants to be the best.
38:34It's a matter of what you do, he wants to be the best. But his quality at that time, I like Ronaldo at that time because… entertainment because he take players he kill him he kill players is now is because you know everyone being old he need change but who now they train he kill people's he kill remember remember one against one he can't take the never never never never come on level never he take a little never on the piece no no because who now is near just right on the the right, left, head, shoulder. If you would say one player, this player is better than you. Remember when it changed and we used to say, he used to speak and he was arguing and you say, who's the best number seven?
39:24I used to go, ah, Beckham the best. And he used to go, Beckham. He scored this many goals. Always fight. When I'd say Ibram, Ibram, that time Ibram went 11 million, I think in a year. yeah he'd say oh I'm gonna win the best a lot the best salary yes yeah this guy want to kill me he want to kill me but guy is is is how's this this is his style I think he he deserve yeah I think he sacrificed he sacrificed his life he's speaking to him a lot No, no, like for two years I don't talk to him. Last time I talked to him when he had some problem, I think, I just text message, say, hey, you okay? A lot love for you, I hope everything is okay.
40:17He'd say, okay, and I'm okay. Simple. Because I'm not kind of guy chasing people. Yeah, you're on the phone, you're shit. You're shit on the phone. You're rubbish. Every one month, guys, can you put Anderson back? You have new number. Yes. You're losing the phone. No, I lose my phone. All the time, man. Yes, I broke my phone. In the WhatsApp group, your phone is changing every month. No, no, no. Serious. Or you don't speak for one month. No, I speak. And then you come back. No, you're joking. I love talking to you guys. I tell Jesus to my friends. all the players i play in manchester tonight no i know i love all the same because for you after football doesn't matter you no change you've been same guy funny guy joking guy i i i see you talk about football i think a lot of kids gonna hear what you say because you know you're not kind of guy is go speak about bad about players you go tell the truth because you play there you know how is it you know how to work you know what what i mean say me now i make me sad when i see some play talk about carx he's amazing guy that guy is he's classic guy you need you He was supporting him.
41:38Doesn't matter what. He have to have because I know him, you know him, Evra know him. So many players I know him. Why make me sad? Because yours love Manchester. I love Manchester. You love Manchester. Evra love Manchester as well. On that, does it disappoint you when you see people talking negatively like that? Yes. I'll tell you why. Because he's an amazing guy. He played for 10 years in the club. win everything for the club. He had two opportunities in the club. The first time he did very well the first time. The second time now, the guy didn't lose the game before. He started doing what the players need to do.
42:18Support him. Fight for him. Because he's not fighting just for him. He fights for the club. Because you know the club. I know you know the club change. You know why I don't like to go to the club? People would say, why are you coming to Manchester to not go to the club? I don't go to the club because I think the club is not the same people anymore. I don't think it's the same security because always Manchester is family club. Because when I come to Manchester, Ronaldo would say to me like this, you know Manchester after two years on this. Your first year you don't go understand Manchester. The second, you're not going to understand Manchester the third year.
43:01Because... That group is special, man. No, because the security... Steve, the massage guy... The guy in the... the cook... The chef, the robber, the massage guy, the bastard, the massage bastard. And every day the massage puts rain on the bike. You're raining. It makes you take the bike, raining, and it... The physio. You remember that? He's saying when you used to get injured, the physio used to love riding the bike. He used to ride from Halifax to Manchester, right? So our rehab was like his workout. So he would take us on the bike and we'd go out into the lanes near Carrington. And we went out, we were both injured one early when he first come.
43:48And this guy, he had his cycling short stuff, he just went off, went far. I was going in the range. Rob! Where are you going? This is my way you come back. I stopped the bike and I turned around and went back. Oh man, you ran and you called it and said, what is Fizzio doing? Oh my God. The club has great memories of that club. It was good. These boys, Casemiro, is amazing playing the club. I think Bruno Fernandes is fantastic for the club. It's crazy. It's crazy. His number is crazy. I think the club just needs time. I think now you have a car, you know, the club for so long. I think the club has...
44:35Last time I see you, I'd say, Rui, go to the club. The club needs players. You understand the club. Just right now, who's your favorite player at the club when you look? Now, I think for me, Bruno Fernandes. I think he's doing amazing. for five years, last three or two years, they do it by themselves. Not by themselves, but I think it's been the more important, because I think Manchester is doing some... not the right choice for the club. Because this club, not just being an unbelievable player, they need to understand the club. Yeah, more than just the talent. More than just the talent in the club, it's just a big difference.
45:15Like you need big players to play in Manchester. Yes, but I just don't understand. They have money for paying. They have money for buying big players. My players go to resolve the problem. They don't go to the Hyder, buy this, the Instagram, this kind of stuff. I don't know. I don't know why when Neymar is fitted, they don't take Neymar from PSG. I don't know why they don't take Mbappé from PSG. These are big players. Some clubs need big players. Yeah, but now you're not going to see talented Ronaldinho anymore, you're not going to see Zidane talent anymore, Cristiano Ronaldo or Messi talent. You're going to see Semmelan.
45:57Because the level of football now is a little bit down, you don't think? Yeah, it's different. It's different football. If you have Ronaldinho this time now, crazy. Crazy. You take the guys in a piece. You take the guys like this. You love Bernardinho, don't you? Bernardinho is your god, you love him. Rio, come on. It's the same Neymar, Neymar fit in Rio, come on. Should Neymar go to the World Cup? Yes, I have to. Yeah? I have to because Neymar is important, not just for… He's been alone for 10 years. Not alone, but he has Kazumiro, he's been alone for 10 years. I don't understand why people in Brazil, is some football players talk about bad anymore that guy being 20 years alone is the most core for national team he just don't win work up you think they're going to walk up if you bring him i think brazil have a big chance because 2002 ronaldo have the same problem in the same problem he has he stayed 30 days inside the facility brazil went 2002 yes but i have roberto carlos have Rivaldo, he played on Bolivar that time, Ronaldinho Gaúcho.
47:09Neymar just has Neymar, always. Everything is back. People in Brazil take us first, the guy. They're the best player he was having for 10 years. That's true, that's true. Brazil is, I don't know, when Neymar stops, who is we going to talk about? Vinicius? Vinicius, but he was different level. Neymar is different level, different, different planet. Neymar for me, for me, it's the same level Ronaldinho, the quality by feet. Cristiano and Messi are different. They go paying for C, but if you say to me, look who you want to enjoy. You see the videos of Neymar and PSG? He's crazy, crazy. He's taking a piece.
47:53He's a different player. He's a different player. Brazil, you need him. Listen, Ando, thank you, man. Thank you, man. and you're the best. I love you, man. I love you. Seriously, good to see you. Good to see you. We're going to go get some food. But you know, this channel is about giving people what they want, and their comments have always said, where is Ando? So I'm so happy you came by. And you've got a chance to sit and chat. Thank you very much for giving you the opportunity. Thank you. I love you. Always love you, man. Always, man. Always, man. Thank you.
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Anderson sits down with Rio Ferdinand for one of the most honest and unexpected Rio Meets yet — a story that goes far beyond football and one that’s been requested by thousands of you for many years.
From leaving home at 11 and living in a football stadium without any parents, to becoming a Golden Boy winner and signing for Manchester United via Jorge Mendes, Anderson opens up on the reality behind the journey - including why money, not passion, drove his early international career.
He reveals what it was really like living with Cristiano Ronaldo - from brotherly support to full-blown arguments, mind games over ping pong matches and being sent to do the weekly Costco shop. Plus, why Ronaldo’s obsession with winning left a lasting mark… and why Anderson believes just “5%” of that mentality would have changed his entire career.
There are incredible stories from what he described as “the greatest dressing room in football” - including why Ryan Giggs pushed him to take a Champions League final penalty, the moment his life flashed before his eyes walking to the spot, and how legends like Paul Scholes and Sir Alex Ferguson shaped him (even if he couldn’t understand a word the manager was saying).
Anderson also lifts the lid on the personalities inside that iconic United squad - from naming his dog after Wes Brown, to clashes with Cesc Fàbregas, dressing room chaos with Nani, and why that team’s togetherness made them the best he ever played in.
Plus, his honest take on modern football - including why Bruno Fernandes has carried United in recent years, why Michael Carrick deserves more respect, and why Neymar is still Brazil’s key to winning the World Cup.
This is Anderson like you’ve never seen him before - raw, funny, emotional and completely unfiltered.
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