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0:36Yes, guys, welcome back to Real Reacts. And right, you know what? Not going to waste any time at all. Explosive post-match comments from Lissandro Martinez, the Argentinian World Cup winning centre-back. Right, let's get straight into it. We've got a question here, by the way, from the community. You've captained May United and you know the dressing room. When Martinez comes out and speaks like this, how does the dressing room react?

1:03I think there's a couple of things you have to consider before you make a real kind of detailed assessment. I think you've got to understand what the relationship he has in the changing room is. Has this been discussed between the players before he goes out there? So the likes of the new signings like Tielemans, Belaba, et cetera, Santos, and the guys are fully aware of the context of what he's saying. and has he spoken to the management those questions I think you'd need to have the answer to and I think if I was a player I would have liked him to have come to me first or to address the dressing room first before he went and spoke publicly like that

1:48these things don't end well man they don't end well Roy Keane spoke publicly there could have been no more influential bigger player than him who was the captain at the time, and he left days later. Cristiano Ronaldo called out people, individuals within the club, the manager, the ownership. He left straight after. Ralf Ranić looked like he was going to be there for a couple of years as interim manager, called out and said things that needed to be done. And I'm not disagreeing with what some of these guys have said, by the way. I'm just saying this is what happens when someone talks out about the hierarchy at the football club.

2:34So, yeah, first and foremost, I think hopefully he's had a conversation and the players are well aware of how he felt. Because I don't think it's cool for the players to be hearing this firstly in the media rather than face to face with one of your teammates. which makes it an awkward situation in the dressing room. And I'm just thinking about it as a player. How would I feel if I was one of the new guys who came in? And how it sounds in the media is that the players who have come in, one, I don't know if they're at a level, but two, also we haven't got enough players to compete at this level.

3:14So, yeah, I would definitely be then going like, okay, well, what do you think of me? And that's the question I'll be thinking.

3:25But then I think it's the reaction. He's going to see this reaction. And you know what? Lissandro Martins is a straight up guy. This tells you that. And I think he'd meet this head on. And I think that seeing the reaction, I think it would then go into the team and go, listen guys, this is how it is. This is what I said. If it come across differently to the way I really meant it because of the language barrier, et cetera, then so be it. but this is what I really meant. And I think he'll probably do that. I've got to be honest with you. Another question. Would Sir Alex have allowed a player to speak publicly like that?

3:58Not a chance. If that happened in our time, I told you before, when players spoke out against other players or the hierarchy at the club, they were gone. Roy Keane. A different way, but David Beckham maybe just wasn't doing the things the manager wanted. Gone. Yap Stam wrote a book and hammered a couple of players. Gone. The peak of his powers, the best centre-back in the league. And the players, and Cristiano and Rafarniak as well. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. And I bring it round to myself and think, what would it be like in my situation? Was I ever involved in a situation where I called out the club?

4:37Do you know what? The manager made the substitution. I've spoken about this before. The manager made the substitution against Bayern Munich in the Champions League. I thought it was the wrong substitution. and I was going crazy. On the pitch, in the tunnel, in the change room, the manager completely shut me down. I went in the next day and apologised because in the end I thought I was wrong. I shouldn't have gestured and made it clear how I felt on the pitch in the glare of everybody else. I should have gone into the change room and done it in the change room, which I spoke to him about the next day when I tried to apologise to him.

5:09He didn't accept it. He still hammered me, still fined me. but it's a bit different to, I didn't come out in the media and personally get at anybody. But yeah, he made me know where my place was and not to do that again. I said about Cristiano and Ralph Raniak doing this. And Ralph Raniak, you remember him famously talking about open heart surgery, which I think he wasn't far off the truth, by the way. Cristiano, while still a player, he called out the ownership and the lack of kind of rebuild in terms of facilities and the manager ten hog and then both of those guys left the club shortly after that um after those outbursts so it looks like this i can't honestly see this being any different i don't the question i have firstly right is has this been discussed with jason walcox has as nissandro martin has been like in the summer seeing what's happened and coming to the club and god you know what this is shit this is rubbish what's going on i expected more.

6:09Like, I expected more. This is Man United. I've stayed here. I've won the World Cup. I want to win the Premier League and Champions League. I expected more. Has he actually knocked the door of Jason Wilcox and Omar, etc., before getting to this point of going into the media after a game, all emotional, and spoken to those guys about it, the guys that he called out? Because if he does feel like this, then I think he's well within his right to knock on their door. and have this conversation privately before going to the media, in front of the players, with Jason Wilcox, with Omar there. I have that conversation with them.

6:50I think that's a healthy conversation to go as a player. I want to know what's going on. Wayne Rooney done that when he was flirting with Man City. I'm not saying it goes down perfectly well, but the players respect you that if you're going to say it, you can say it to the player's face as well. What do you think? and there's going to be fans that agree with Martinez and I've seen the comments under a lot of the articles already who have him as a hero, want a statue built of him now and that's fine because everyone has their own opinion and they side with who they want to side with in these situations but there will be players in that dressing room, I'm sure if he hasn't spoken to him personally before who will be affected by those comments Am I not good enough?

7:30Is it me he's talking about? Should I be here now? is there a group of these guys that think like that? Is it just him or is he speaking on behalf of many other players? And the club now have a decision to make. And I look at it and you look from the club's perspective, if they do nothing, then it looks like a weakness. They do nothing, then it sets a precedent for other players to think that if they have a problem, they can speak out, they can shout and say what they want publicly in the media. Or do the club take the stance that we show the rest of the squad any young players coming in, any players that we sign in the future, that there'll be consequences when something like this happens.

8:09And this is the big decision the club have to make. Or is it a big decision? Or is it simple for the club now, given what's been said? Because in the news now, all it's going to be is around this. I'm doing a real reaction, not on the game that we just lost, had a man sent off, who played well, who didn't play well. It's about the comments post-game from Lisandro Martinez, because they're such strong comments. if he's had those conversations and nothing has changed and he feels that nothing's going to change behind the scenes and he's not satisfied with what he got back in that meeting then I get that he wants to be heard he wants to be at the forefront and let everybody know that this isn't what he feels should be at Manchester United but if he hasn't had that conversation with Wilcox and Omar then I think they're going to nail him I've got to be honest with you and you look at it and you go, wow, okay.

9:02This is taken away from the fact that we've got no wins in five games since Ipswich, by the way. Performances aren't translating into results and I'm not even saying we played really well, but we created a lot of chances in the game yesterday. We're not scoring enough goals. We're not converting the chances in all the games that we play. We're not converting enough chances. I mean, if you look at it from Carrick's point of view, you go, well, if I'm setting a team up and they're creating so many chances, I think they're six in the GA, in the table. But that's not reflected in the position or the results that they're getting.

9:37I'm putting you into good positions. I'm helping you get into the right scenarios, but you're not being able to convert. That's individual mistakes and poor finishing. But also mistakes when conceding goals. Like Martinez was at fault for the goal against Spurs. They're the one that's three points gone. I keep seeing people talking about Carrick and of course he deserves more time let him be let him get in there and let him get us out over our first hurdle that he's got with the team don't forget it went swimmily well all last season let him get us out of this right yeah I think he's under a bit of pressure but that's normal being a Man United manager right but let Michael Carrick show us that he can swim against the tide because last season he'd done fantastically well the most winning manager in the time that he got at the club in the whole league.

10:23Let him go. Let him have a go and let him work at it. And let him see if he can turn this round. Yeah, I just... I go back to the point of individual mistakes against Spurs and then again against Atletico. You look at him, you go, we can't have these games where we're not taking our chances. You can't. There's been so many games this season where you look at the chances and you go, wow, what's going on? VAR was against us again yesterday. But I think today Rio reacted more about the comments It's made by Martinez. I think that you listen to what he said. And you know what? As a player, I understand it.

10:56I was the first one to keep asking the manager or David Gill at the time, who are we getting? Who are we signing? Martinez might be like that. But at the same time, I was talking from a position of, we're champions. We're winning Champions Leagues and we're getting to the last stages of every cup competition, to the finals, to winning the Premier League. United aren't a top team yet. And I think that's one thing I listened to his interview after the game yesterday and that's one thing that I sit and I scratch my head about. He says Man United should be talking about winning the Premier League and winning the Champions League.

11:28Man United are not working from that stance. Man United are still in rebuild mode. And I think the players himself, if he's reflecting on the players, that's what they need to be thinking about. We're in the process now of getting towards being a team that can contend. We're still trying to consolidate getting into Champions League spaces for me. like not been in the Champions League for ages. I think this is the first time in marketing there's this time at the Man United in the Champions League and Man United are about building blocks at the moment. And in the transfer window, Man United can't go in and just obliterate the market and fix every wrong and right every wrong that there is in this squad in one window.

12:10Can't happen. It's got to be a process over a number of windows. And I think the players need to understand that. And it feels like maybe there's higher expectations than what's reality. So, yeah, that's where I'm at with it. And I think, listen, the most important thing now, as always, is the next game. Huge game. Leeds in the Premier League. It's going to be an absolute fight. And we've got to be ready for that before anything. Yes, we want to play well. Yes, we want to score goals. You have to win the fight first against a team like Leeds. Their fans are going to be up for it. We need to match that.

12:44match the energy in every position.

13:14Thank you.