People Saying Carrick Has No Charisma Don’t Know What They’re On About!

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0:38Are these players good enough? Well, they are good enough. They just needed to be coached better.

0:47Yes, guys, welcome to another episode of Rio Presents. We're here in the studio, guys. We've watched you by Crafted. I'm here with Mr. Joel Bay, Mrs. Zeehausen. there's one very very happy man I'm actually surprised there's no sunglasses where's the trophy listen man I'm keeping it cool keeping it cool keeping it calm when the time's right you'll see it now listen there's loads to get into May United making a real go of Champions League positions all mag this weekend massive game it was with Villa by the way massive game and everyone was going didn't know where it would go but May United I thought were quite convincing in that we'll talk about Max Dalman we have to this kid I've been talking about this kid since 2024 and even before that in here so in 2024 and Steve can you give a little debut to a Premier League winner oh yeah at the paddock yeah we've just invented a new rule at the club which means if you've won the Premier League you can start it off which I think is fair enough innit did he even have to train to prove himself no he couldn't get he couldn't get to training this week I've been working on him for about two years I was going to say it's taken you a while innit it took him a good while to finally come and lace him up no no we'll do more on that but I mean you were there at the weekend at the game of Old Trafford.

1:57Yeah. On Saturday against Villa. What did you make of it? First half was flat. I think I texted you saying boring. Yeah. But it takes two to Tango and Villa only came for a draw, I think. That would be fair to say, do you reckon? Yeah, I don't think they went there with the intention to win. Have they got the capabilities of winning? Because I'm looking at their players right now and... It was their BT midfield. I'm looking good, man. They're missing Tillman, they're missing Kamara. Yeah, they're missing them in midfield in a big way. but they only started playing and we went a goal up and they put pressure on us straight away a little bit iffy of a goal but it's a goal and then they sat back again and United just kept the momentum on got a second and then got the third and that was that it was simple after that to be honest I don't think they had it in them to re-up again after we got that second to go back and try and get a third but the second half was a lot better than the first and do you know what it was?

2:55We can call it boring because it was but it was a professional performance. I was going to say, Steve, I keep seeing people say it was boring. I see your text said it was boring and listen, when you're watching it and if it's boring, it's boring, right? But you went, when I was playing in our generation and before that, surely there were times you went to games and thought, they've got to wake up. They've got to wake up. About 18 games a year at home. With us? Yeah, we were boring. We were boring loads of times when, you must have done 70, 80, 90 passes in some games and not been able to penetrate with it.

3:28And just like teams used to sit in against us, defend deep and come for a draw. Like that used to happen all the time. Yeah, it was boring. I think it's different. But do you know why it's different? Because when you're top of the league or you're winning, it's not that boring, is it? Do you see what I mean? Yeah, there's almost a purpose to it. You know what I mean? So you can understand it. Do you know what the most exciting season I had in probably 15, 20 years? David Moyes. genuinely yeah because it was teams would come and have a go at us because they believed they could they didn't under Fergie but this is what I mean it's like if it's boring at times but then you're getting a job done there's a purpose to what you're doing it's like Arsenal now people are getting onto Arsenal they're looking for all the chinks in their armour it's the set pieces they're not playing great football they're time wasting this is all about winning I never looked back on the league and thought I wish we'd played better when we won the league I wish we'd played better I wish we'd we'd done better in this area or that area.

4:21No, I am sipping champagne, beer, Guinness, whiskey, tequila, the lot. Enjoying it and celebrating, not thinking. The order. On to the next. Yeah, I'm mixing all sorts up. It's true. I want to talk about Bruno Fernandes. Held my hands up a million times this season. Bruno. You know, he now holds the club record for most assists in the Premier League season. He's only five behind the current record-breaking number, which is 20 held by Kevin De Bruyne and Terriori. Four. Five breaks it. So five breaks it. Four equals it. Can I just throw this little caveat in? He's played 30 games this season. Less games than them two as well.

5:01Right? Played 30 games this season. 20 of them have been as a defensive midfield. I just don't get it. How has he done that? Because he's a top footballer. He sees the game in a different perspective, different lens to most others. he's the most creative midfielder best most creative midfielder in the world right now. I have to say on the form that he's in. For years? The amount that he's producing even the game at the weekend the amount of times he's putting people in, he puts Cesco in with his left foot with an unbelievable defence splitting pass. Like he just sees openings that others dream about let alone have the audacity to try and then he executes.

5:40It's phenomenal I'd even like to see the stat on the amount of chances he's created that were actually people one-on-one in front of the goal who end up having a shot that didn't score. Honestly. Because he could have ridiculous numbers. The next nearest person in terms of creating chances is about 45 behind him. That's Declan Rice. Declan Rice. Do you know what I mean? 45 chances behind. He's got 90-odd chances created. It's ridiculous. So I can't wax lyrical enough about him. We have to give a massive shout-out to Mbwemo, Sesko and Cunha. Because with them being in the team now, at least he's got players that can actually finish their dinner, right?

6:17Yeah, that's an unbelievable point as well, because as good as you can be yourself, you always need teammates in different capacities, in different ways. And he says that he needs people to finish off all of the great chargings that he's creating. And that's the great thing about, I think when those guys come into a dressing room like this now, they're looking around going, I've never seen anything like this. If I run, the ball arrives. It's hard, you know, to run thinking, the ball probably isn't going to come. I've heard players say, I'm not making that run because he ain't finding me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:51So you have the flip side of it, don't you? When you go, I'm just going to make the run when Bruno gets on the ball because a ball might just appear. It's like, do you think Wayne Rooney's making a run, coming short and going behind 10 times out of 10 when Patrice ever was on the ball? No disrespect, when Gary Neville's on the ball, Wes Brown, like, or even like a, probably even like an Anderson maybe because he's more of a runner with the ball. Do you know what I mean? Or when Narnie's on the ball as much. You know the players, you pick your players and go, who can get me that ball over that distance?

7:25Well, Cristiano, when he played on the right, used to frustrate the life out of everyone. I remember Rude was making runs left, right and centre and he was going, when is this ball going to arrive? You are meant to be in a circus. You keep doing skills, tricks, tricks, tricks, tricks. You need sometimes to understand who's on the ball. Can he get it to me? and these strikers now, you look at Mbuma, Kuno, when he gets on the ball, the way that they move, Sesko even, I mean, he didn't start, but he comes on again and again, this guy's revitalised. Yeah. Absolutely revitalised. From the bench as well, Rio.

7:55Great attitude, man. I have to, every time he comes on. It's easier to have a good attitude if you come and score though. Yeah. No, it is. You're getting 15 minutes and losing and not scoring. You say that, yes, but then at the same time, he could turn around and go, where am I starting? Why am I not starting yet? You know, but he's still been able to, I see him smile when he missed. I shouldn't have gone as wide as it did, but I see him smiling when he missed. Sticking it with Bruno Fernandes, here's a stat. He's officially becomes the third player in Manchester United history with 100 goals and 100 assists.

8:24And he's done it in 318 appearances. Now for context, people, Lionel Messi did it in 319 for Barcelona. Cristiano Ronaldo did it in 325 for Real Madrid. Can we get that clip? Can we get that pin? because that is a mental, mental stat. Goals and assists. Goals and assists, by the way. We're not saying one. The two best players ever. Those three players. Yeah. Do you know who they are? You didn't mention who they are, dear. What are you talking about? The three at United that he's just joined. Wayne Rooney. Wayne Rooney. Ryan Giggs. Yeah. Do you know how many assists Ryan Giggs has got? I'll be about 160.

9:03No. Have you got the stat? Have you actually got it? I don't know. Because I know it. Okay. 249 assists alright so pick one you either have 10 years at 25 assists a year every year for a decade or you have 12 and a half assists which is still a joke for 20 years you're having Giggsie for 20 years you do it for 20 years it's 20 years of bliss I saw an assist from Giggsie I had to text him the other day right I saw an assist from Giggsie the other day on the half volley West Ham away in the cup I think it was for Robin Van Persie who took it in his stride I think on his weak foot touch past the defender slotted it it was one it was an outrageous pass it was over about 56 yards I texted him and said Giggsie this this this went bad this went bad this like it was a joke but it brought us to remember we were talking about what he was like when we were there what Giggs was like yeah and like again he's another one if someone if he was on the ball people would even know that the ball would probably get there he's passing range over different distances.

10:07Non-Manchester United fans they'll all go, is he actually the best left wing of all time? Well, in Premier League history. Gareth Bale's the only one who can touch him. He's without a doubt. Henry, I consider him more of a striker than a left winger. But that's the company. That's the company he keeps. And it's a joke that it's not called the Ryan Giggs Hall of Fame, let alone the fact that he's not even in it. Is he in your all-time 11 though? For the Premier League? Yeah. 4-2? Yeah. Yeah. And if it's 4-3-3, he should realistically be in the midfield he could get two nominations I'm asking you because on the right it's Bex for the Premier League there's nobody that can chat to Ryan Giggles I'm not saying anyone can chat to him but I'm talking about just because you've done it the longest does it automatically mean you're in he's done it the longest but he's done it he's only won 13 titles I'm asking questions so what do you want you've got the longevity of 13 titles you've got the longevity of 249 assists over 100 Premier League goals 960 somewhat appearances for the best team in the country consistently picked played in one position evolved when he got a hamstring problem and played another position was world class in both two Champions Leagues which of these metrics do you think he doesn't go in on if you know anyone who can come and sit here alongside us here and put a case forward for somebody else to be on the left wing go and find them yeah he gets so much disrespect so if you add 4-4-2 sorry one more thing go on the first name in the Premier League Hall of Fame should have been right here it should have been on his own it should have been over the door it should have been on his own and then everyone else comes in after that's what it should have been I'm asking questions here on the right hand side who would you have Bex right no no 4-4-2 Cristiano's got to be in there okay I think what are you saying the problem is Bex was great don't get me wrong the problem is Gareth Bale's best time was outside of the Premier League but what he did in the Premier League was still two years the two seasons that he you know it's a bit like a yard that's like saying Luis Suarez should be in the Premier League Hall of Fame and be one of the first names there because he had two unbelievable seasons it wasn't the same it weren't bell seasons what?

12:12it weren't Suarez Gareth I thought you said Saha sorry my bad no no Suarez oh okay no yeah he was and then you can say Fernando Torres there's a lot of players that have had a couple of good seasons and for whatever reason it doesn't happen they've either left and gone somewhere else or they fall off a cliff who's your midfield for? in a 4-4-2 yeah that's hard man it's a joke because Roy Keane has to be in it sorry can I say Ryan Giggs I think is probably one of the main ones that you go there's no argument for it I don't know there's more competition there is whether we think there should be or not there is no but there's more competition in the two centimetre field positions if you go Vieira Keane Gerrard Scholes sorry what Lampard Yaya Yaya De Bruyne just say Fabregas if you want to there's seven or eight there off the bat okay so who's your You're going Ryan Giggs, Gareth Bauer.

13:05It does drop off, doesn't it? Who? You start naming Gennel before you know it. The difference is that there ain't that depth in that left-wing position as there is in the midfield. Right wing, you're going to have Salah, Beckham, Ronaldo. Oh, some list. Strikers is a nightmare. Why don't we talk about... Henry, Shearer, Rooney, RVP... Why don't we talk about Phil Foden like this? Should be. Not yet, but like... You know, for example, do you reckon we will be talking about Phil Foden within those names? No. Why not? He's got five times. Yeah. And how many of them did he play more than four games?

13:40I think Foden's got unbelievable problems. I think he had like four Premier League titles in like 20 appearances or something. It's a good bit. No, I'm not. No, a few of them titles, he wasn't the integrity. Yeah, I know. The guys we're talking about were big reasons why those teams won. Like the last, I think the last one or two leagues that they won, definitely. He's been involved, yeah. Foden's been a massive part of him. For sure. But the early ones, he was on that journey growing into the team. I'm glad you said that because I'm in a lot of group chats where they try to throw the five Premier League trophies when we talk about Foden.

14:14Unbelievable. The problem is as well, they changed the rules. They changed the rules a few years ago. You used to have to get 10 appearances in the league to get a medal. I remember that. So there's quite a few of those early United teams where there's players that was in the squad that don't get them. I suppose Brian didn't get some trophies some years because he didn't play the required number whereas I see a man playing 13 minutes getting trophies. Yeah, you should get named in the squad and I shouldn't have. Yeah, it's nuts. Couldn't get the medal. All right, cool. So I want to go back to digress by the way.

14:37Michael Carrick's future. But Ryan Giggs needs his flowers. He never gets them. I know. Unbelievable player. I just think treble season, first season, what was he doing? Nothing. He only came alive when he scored the semi-final goal. He's bloody injured. Was he injured? Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah, that's why Lesnar Blomqvist played as much as he did. what am I hearing here he was on the bench because he was coming back from injury what am I hearing here I don't know something blasphemy about Ryan Giggs sometimes go look at some of his performances like Gazeta de la Sport is it doesn't give 10s out ever you don't get a 10 I think they give one out to Maradona once at some point and they give Ryan Giggs a 10 out of 10 rating I think he played up front that game by the way as a 10 yeah he destroyed them you've got to remember their team back then as well Del Piero Trezeguet how did they see him internationally because I think this is always very interesting.

15:25Internationally, Thierry Henry's loved here way more than he is in France. No, Giggsie. But internationally. They loved him in a little bit. Giggsie, Giggsie. Really? They're all the team, one of them. In our Juve, they're all one of them. Every summer, we used to have AC in Juve, Lazio, rumours there was going to be, it was big money, maybe it was 18 mil. We're talking 18 mil in the 90s, world record fees. Also, around that time, I think a bit after that, that's when he started coming with a bit of pressure. fan base at Old Trafford was like a little bit like booing him a little bit jeering him like because he wasn't maybe in the best of form at times for a little period of time but I know for a fact if we travelled anywhere now as old past players he'd be one of the players that people were coming to more when we garbled because he's just you know he was looked at differently Is he the same as Scholes in terms of like proper just cutting little sarky comments oh it's ridiculous well when i first joined my united butty and this is why it's mad but Ian Scholes have got a podcast but but buddy and Ryan Giggs were a double act they're the mates on Karen where when we was Old Trafford when i first joined they were the two just holding thought in that change and taking the piss out of everyone like drilling everyone there's like there's like that Lauren Hardy wow I mean so um so yeah but listen everything things change over the years and people kind of yeah when it comes to michael carrick's future i want to ask if you're more on wayne rooney side or roy keen's side now just to give some context wayne said 100 he should get the job we've seen the players play with more quality more togetherness as a team and they look like a very strong team why should you change it but keen he said this there are far better options out there for the next manager of manchester united if you had mentioned carrick three months ago you'd have been locked up what the heck that's strong words my issue is he's not saying any names bro you're saying there's better options out there than who yeah put your nail your colors to a mask tell me who because i think like everybody is better theoretically but reuben amarin was better theoretically ten hague was better theoretically the proof is in the pudding michael carrick is in there doing the job it's easy to talk about who could do the job but he's actually doing the job He's getting the wins.

17:44We look significantly better as a team. We may be, you know, got areas to improve on with the ball. You've got question marks about, can we do it twice a week? That's all totally valid. But the fact is, I think Premier League managers who've done 10 or more games, he's got the best win rate. No arguments. If it's not Michael Carrick, then who would you like to see in the dugout? I was leaning towards Nagelsmann, but the more I think about him mooching around on a scooter at Carrington, I think, no. the more I think about what he wears on the touchline I think no you've got the list that sort of got leaked last week Iriola and you're just thinking there's some names on here that you go are they better than Michael Carrick show me that they're better than Michael Carrick and Keane's got a point three months ago you might have been laughed at if you'd have said Michael Carrick should be the next permanent Manchester United manager but do you know what he put his hand up, he gambled on himself because it could have gone horrendously worse for him.

18:43You look to that United record and you know anything about anything, you go there is a chance that carries on and I get a 30 % win rate out of that United team because they don't, because look what happens with Ralf Ragnik, a lot more experience and he had like a 40 % win rate. So you could easily see like if I come in for six months what if it went the same way as Ralf Ragnik? My career's done as a manager. I'm not getting any phone calls, maybe Spurs, but I'm not getting any phone calls to go manage anywhere else after this. So he's gambled on himself. He's put himself in the arena. And not only has he put himself in the arena, he is absolutely getting results.

19:19I thought Ashley Young did well yesterday. I did think he could have probed Rokin a little bit more on it. Ashley Young, the guy I know, I would have done it outside, I think. But I think being new on the show and I don't think it was his place to do it. But I think there was people in there I thought, wow, I can't believe no one's gone, well, who? Just out of curiosity. Not to pressure him, but I would have wanted to go, hold on, who then? Tell me who, because you seem quite convinced that this is a, it's a quite an easy kind of conversation. There are people out there. And I look at him and I'm going like, well, who's far better qualified than Mark Carrick now doing what he's doing?

19:52Like he said, breaking the 10 games plus record in Premier League history of a new manager coming into a team. Who out there are you going, there's no question marks about? Because Tuchel's signed a new deal. Carlo Ancelotti signed a new deal. Enrique's at PSG trying with another Champions League. He's not going to be someone that may not even be able to get out. I'll be very surprised. But also, Enrique, he had a right squad at Barcelona, wins a treble, with a team that's recently won a treble. He goes to PSG. There was recently in a Champions League final. He gets them over the line in the Champions League final.

20:24That's different to where United are. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, these are probably the... He's one of the names that you go, he's jumping off the page that people are going to go, he should get it. He's the only name. Because he wins. Yeah. Whether he's got a team that's primed and ready to do that or not, but he does it. right and we all know that there's people that go into clubs with prime teams that don't win but he does but so he's a name that you go okay so two of them are gone and he's going to be really difficult to get right who else is there out there that you're going is the guy to go in there who's far more qualified than Michael Carrick and also anyone you mention even those three guys there there's still question marks of them can can Enrique come to the Premier League does he know the Premier League can he adapt can he get his team working they're all the questions that everyone was asking about this team, Michael Carrick's answered, are these players good enough?

21:11Well, they are good enough. They just needed to be coached better. Maybe simplified. And I see someone the other day talking about, I've seen a lot of people, oh, Michael Carrick doesn't have the charisma because he's a post-match interviewer a little bit down maybe. Michael Carrick doesn't get up for anything. I've seen him win the biggest trophies and I've seen him have the lowest of low days when we've got beat in finals, right? He ain't up or down any more or less, right? The only thing he gets up or down about is a bit of Hassan Garage. He's had a few beers. He's a Garage fan, yeah? Absolute madman.

21:41Wow. He's around a bit of Hassan Garage. He's phenomenal in the basketball, right? He's up two beers like this. But what I would say, so don't look at his post-match and pre-match conversations around the press because they're the last people he wants to talk to. They're the last people he wants to give any info to. They're the people that he's been around for 30-odd years, 25, 30 years, as a player and now as a coach. You think he's going to bounce into those rooms when all of them have got daggers out behind their back? right so don't judge him on that judge him on what he's doing on the pitch and judge him on what you're hearing he's doing in his training ground that's where i'm looking at and i'm going the difference between what was going on before and now yes one is results but how and why has he got to this position communication skills of players individually making players feel a million dollars there's there's something to be said for that if a player walks into into a into a game and they're a bit low and they've got question marks does the manager rate me or not and there's So many players.

22:33Euro, Manu, Casemiro, Sesco. But I want to ask you this, though. If everybody in the comments watching as well, and everybody listening, if Luis Enrique becomes available today, do you take him over Michael Carrick?

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24:16so if may not finish the way they're finishing now strong in third position pushing second and get Champions League football, I think it's a conversation that the pals of the club have got to have. Whereas before, I'm saying, before this run and before Carrick come in, if you asked me after one game, I'd have said, Carrick, you've got to give it to Enrique, given what he's done. I'd have to go that way. But this guy's got a group of players that everybody thought were shit. Everybody thought all these players, bar Bruno, they're rubbish. He can go, he can go. Now, they're saying, let's give Casemiro an extra year, everyone's saying, please, begging, please come back.

24:50So you're saying to me that if Enrico is available today with everything Carrick's doing, everything Enrique's done, you're sticking with Michael Carrick? No, I don't think it's an easy conversation. It's a more difficult conversation to have. Okay. I'm not saying, but I'm saying before, it's an easy conversation. Enrique, take it. Take the job. But after what he's doing now, and if he continues to the end of the season, that's a difficult conversation to have. We lose Casemiro. United have got a massive job on in the summer to sort out who's going to fill them but he's gone I mean that yeah but he is gone so when Enrique walked through the door this is not taking over Barcelona this is not taking over PSG this is asking him to do a job that he's never done before in a club he doesn't know and that is a different story Michael Carrick is answering and has answered already to this point every question that's been answered of him there's still a couple no no no up to this point no no there's still a couple I think he's answered two games a week not been answered Low block not being answered No but I'm just saying Low block not being answered I just think You're sitting there And going Can you get this team Off their knees Yes What position were Man United In when he took over We've taken the most points Out of everybody In the league There's been A 14 point swing With Villa We were 11 points behind him When he took over We're now 3 in front of him That's a joke Now obviously They've had bad form But that's the Ground that we've made up We're now closer To City than City are to Arsenal.

26:20That's crazy, isn't it? I mean, Rio, you were showing us in a group the other day, Carrick's record is the best in the Premier League since he took over, right? Now, Man United are actually first on that list with 22 points, Arsenal second with 21, and Man City third with 18 points. Interesting, though, Rosinio, 17 points. And he's getting a bit of heat, by the way. I don't understand that as well. Don't worry, I've got plenty for him. no no ok just compare the two then so Karrick's come in and he's 5 points better off he's only 5 points behind by the way with a younger squad really young and experienced squad whatever you want to call it and the hierarchy is doing things that are different in a unique way why is he under so much pressure because he hasn't done as well as the previous manager there's been no improvement they're not much worse off but they're not better off either and if you're going to come, those big games are decided.

27:18So, for example, Michael Carrick's come in. He's got the big wins, man. He's got the win against Arsenal. He's got the win against City. Villa, which we've just said is a big game. Rosinia, every big game he's failed. Arsenal three times. Was Rosinia brought in to go and take him to a new level? We can say what we want, but it's the feelings of the fans, though, isn't it? What convinced the Man United fans that Carrick was the guy because he was taking those big games and getting the best out of the team, getting the results? If you come in and those big games come and you know you're not going to win, you know you're going to lose at home to Newcastle and that's not even the biggest out of the biggest game, then Newcastle, on this run, they beat Chelsea, they beat Man United and they've drawn with Barcelona.

28:02No, no, I hear you. Let's not talk about them like they're some minus. I'm just telling you what it is from the fans, right, fan perspective. You've got to be convincing within the big games and unfortunately... They've got like 300 million pounds centimids like their squad's a joke like they're way underperforming for what they've we haven't spoke about castomir and kaisado in 2026 never spoken about it have you enzo what's going on unbelievable talent at their disposal and they don't get a tune out of it and then to make it worse every time the gaffer opens his mouth he's just getting memed up to death because he comes out with just like absolute grade A nine carat gold wibble.

28:43Like, did you see the one about the ball? Them doing the huddle around the ball. Do you know what the craziest thing about that? You've been in a huddle, it happens. No tactical information is given away and it's usually like, come on, win your battles, whatever. I absolutely hate huddles. Really? What? I hated, I felt so embarrassed. I don't even know if I ever got involved in one. if someone if we if I've done one someone please pick that clip it up and send it in I fucking hate huddle why it's the biggest you've ever seen him this passionate about anything the biggest load of rubbish ever you're talking's done you've done all the talking in the change room you've had a meeting at a hotel you've done meetings on the friday before the game on a saturday as well and you're going to do a huddle to make people think that you're all locked in no it's already you've already done all that before this huddle shit is like for the fans that's not what yeah What message is getting put in there that everyone's going to go, guys, did you hear that?

29:40I don't reckon anyone's walked out of a huddle and gone on the pitch like that. Now we're winning. And gone, guys, now I know where I'm at with this. Do you think that happens? It's a load of bollocks. I'm telling you. So for starters, they're doing the huddle. I wouldn't even do a huddle in the changing room. So you wanted to do a huddle to respect the ball, is what he said. Have you seen this? No. Right. this is so he said we wanted to do it around the ball because the ball's on the centre circle to respect the ball they've done it the last two or three games which has clearly worked for them I saw this quote but he lost me yeah that's what he's talking about in the context right so they wanted to get around the ball to respect the ball like it's some sort of like sentient being do you know what the craziest thing about all this is it was the opposition kick off get in your own fucking half lads anyway you're in the wrong spot moaning at where the ref is what's going on yeah that is mental I believe you when you say he's a good coach because obviously you've seen him first hand and you actually came back after you saw Wayne Rooney coaching at Derby we've got that video on YouTube as well by the way cool let him put the cones out and put a session on don't let him anywhere near a microphone yeah it's just the issue with him is I want to see him do well but it's just he hasn't did you see the other quote did you see the other quote so there's like four this week so he says if the referee had been doing his job and not in the huddle they'd have got a penalty no you won't Cole Palmer stood on Walter Modes foot that's not a foul crack on then the other one that he came out with was we press in a different way did you see the goal that he conceded right we press in a different way in a new way is what he said they just had no midfield they just they stepped into midfield they passed it's a through ball right through Bosch in 1-0 up Newcastle and you're just thinking there's a lot to be said for your press conference talks you know that's what I said about Michael Carrick if it's a sound contradicting he doesn't say a lot Michael he just gets Michael Michael's just trying to swim through it without being like tagged you ever see that NFL player that just when he gets in the dude goes I'm on ESO I don't get found what's his name I forget his name I'm on ESO big running back whereas Liam's I think Liam needs to be the press officers or the media people at the football club need to help I think someone like Liam because like less is more in his position I think he's just got to just go like listen that press officer's got a bruise on the forehead because they just sit there I do agree yeah but we also have to remember when he first came in everybody was impressed because of the way he was speaking no they weren't no no I clocked that idiot straight up the bat not the aging man not the aging man one I'm not talking about that he's getting ridiculed he speaks I thought he was out of order I thought he was out of order no you thought that was out of order yeah yeah But he does speak clearly.

32:31Let's be honest. Like, he does... No, he speaks different. Yeah. That's the point. He speaks different and a lot of people don't like it. Yeah. They hate it. Yeah, point at Steve right now. Right? Oh, my gosh. Now, viewers watching, this episode's out right about now. Max Dalvin has already finished school. He's arrived. On Monday. Okay? Yeah. And he's probably had the best day in school in the history of a 16-year-old. I reckon he's hung about after school longest ever. You know, when something good's happened in your life and you're hanging about after for everyone to go, what happened there?

33:02I reckon he's just - I think he got rushed out by security. No, I don't reckon he went today actually, really. You reckon? No, no. The school rang his mum and dad and said, listen, can you just tell young Max, we can't have him in school right now because we've got other schools at our gates. Just make sure he gets that selfie signature. Yeah, you know that shirt I mentioned a while ago? The debut shirt. Oh my day. He's on a mad, mad, mad. Maximus Dauman, you know? becoming the youngest ever player to score in the Premier League. It's not nothing nice. 16 years old, 73 games. Yeah, what I thought that gets broke.

33:36Yeah, man. Who were the previous, who's the previous one? It's James Vaughan, isn't it, from Everton? Yeah. And then before that, it's James Milner and then before that, it's Wayne Rooney. What company? Well, not James, but still. I reckon someone who could go close to it maybe next season, JJ Gabriel, United, because he bangs goals. he's more of a goal scorer than down on down the scores but he's a creator as well i'm hearing a lot about him yeah jj he's doing my stuff as well but downman i mean we spoke about him on here in 2024 but so he's not been like someone who's come through not not knowing who he is and you look at and you go who's had that much kind of like um like hype quite a few to be fair who go on i mean Michael Owen did Wayne Rooney did they were 20 years ago nah nah I mean one year he had quite a bit of hype nowhere near this hype and also Michael Owen he was doing it properly from 17 like the world had seen him at 17, 18 not 16 no there was like TV programs when he was like England schoolboys I'm talking about hype not doing I'm talking about from like Joe Cole Wayne Rooney Michael Owen were hyped everyone when they made their debut Neymar did as well to be fair.

34:53Yeah, that's world. That's world. But we knew about those guys. They were whispers on estates. But that's what I'm saying. I think you're right. Obviously, Max has got a bit of both. Like, we've been following him online, man. Max is down to pure class quality, what you see. Do you know what I think has helped him? A little bit like Rooney. He's got a physique on him. He's not small. He's a big lad, you know. I think that helps him in a big, big way. He's a street baller, mate. Trust me. That's what he is. That's like, Has he retired soccer then or what? What? Has he retired soccer then or what?

35:25He could play with soccer. He'd be providing for soccer. My goodness. He is. I look at him and just go, and I always say this about young players, can they transfer what they're doing from the younger levels, academies, to the more senior teams and the first team? Yeah. What he's doing there now is no different to what I saw at 14 years old. You broke through early. What's going through your head? You're debut 17, right? Yeah. The centre-half is different. You get loads of opportunities as wingers. So as a centre-half, a lot of your game revolves around physicality. His game, you can get past that.

35:59Him and the kid, Rio, I keep saying, and them three boys, him, Rio, and Jesse Doe. Their game, they can get, they ride tackles. So they're not having to dominate someone or react to someone purely physically. And what I like about Max Dahman, he ain't actually waiting for someone to make mistakes, although he can. He's actually taking you where he wants you to go. like he's moving you to places like i'm talking like millimeters centimeters yards to get an opening here like it's just everything's well thought out you can see there's a purpose as to what he's doing if he's moved you there is to get the opening there because i've seen 30 yards away that he's got an inch like he's he's 16 years old like can you imagine what he's like on the school playground can you imagine what he's like he doesn't play school playground he's done he must I'm sorry, I'm not playing.

36:49You must go on the pitch and there's 40 kids and there's one ball, they all run after it, and he's the guy that's got the ball, he's just doing mad skills. There's no way. And you know like the chicks on the side, the girls will come to watch and he's just doing that one. Yeah, there's no way. You see, you made your debut at 17, but at 16, you was obviously the man at school. The man. What's it like when you're 16 and you're going, I mean, it's nowhere near like what Max is right now. He's on the back of every newspaper. How old was you when you were in 96? Because you went to that. Yeah, I was 15 or 16.

37:19But that's in a summer. That's you've just left school. So I'm talking about what is it like? No, but you've got to just think that I'm walking back onto my estate after that. Do you have the England trackie? Of course. Yes! I had the England trackie and the England bag. Remember the Umbra bag with the boot and the compartment at the bottom? Yes. That over my shoulder, full up with all the gear. Because all my mates were like, I'm going to bring you all my T-shirts and that. Like trackies and T-shirts to wear with the... Did you deliver? Did you stick your fingers at your... Yeah, I was nicking loads.

37:44I nicked so much. Shout out to Martin, the kit man. I talked so much. He gave me a lot. I had black bin liners, right? Yeah. But to walk back onto your estate from Peckham and you walk back on there and everyone's like, people are coming out. Really? What's it like, man? Oh, my God. And they're supporting you from afar. You don't go back in there with phones and that. So until you get back, you don't know what it's like and how proud the people are on your estate. that yeah one of ours has got there and been to the Euros and like listen check the Gaza it's like it was just it's crazy but he's living it man every day with the first team impacting a championship run right now you put that into like that Michael Owen didn't do that Wayne Rooney didn't do that what does Arteta need to consider in terms of helping Max Thelman develop his ability oh not get too much into his head and have him fucking diving and dicking about just let him play football because he's actually one of the players in your team that actually takes people on and looks like he actually enjoys playing football.

38:48Do you know, Odegaard might not get a game now. I think he's... I think... Seriously, your captain might be gone. No one... I think he's... Lifting the trophy like that. I think he's leaving the centre. No, no, because you've got Dantman can play his position. Eze can play his position. Saka can go in there now we're seeing. Go central. I think he's leaving. Mad. Yeah, I think he's leaving because when I... When I look at, for example, you look at Eze's contract. He's just signed. He ain't going anywhere. You know, you look at the other positions you've got Max Dahman. As a captain, when you keep getting taken off every 60, 70 minutes.

39:22It's not a good look for your captain, is it? Who do you think Gabriel would reckon? Sorry? Do you reckon they give it Gabriel next? If it's not Declan Rice, then I don't know what you're doing. Saka wears it now. Yeah, but I think this is all short-term. I reckon when it comes down to it. Declan has to get it. It has to be Declan. He's going to be riding the bench next year anyway. Who? For who? Saka. Oh, Saka? Stop it, mate. Saka will have a bigger season next year than he does this year. Trust me, because in stats-wise, data-wise. Yeah. This year, he's been down. And he's come back from a harsh injury last year.

39:56He's been gashless. Yeah, he's been great. The question you said about Max Downman, what does Mikel Arturo have to do? I think he just continued doing what he's been doing this week, dipping him in just keep giving him 15, 20, 30 minutes 30 minutes here just keep putting him in because that confidence there's no substitute for that confidence and what can that do as an injection of like of energy into your team we see it at the weekend he's creating a squad does he go to the World Cup that's a good question right there there's always a joker in the pack he's the joker a wild card he's the wild card he has to I think surely Tickles takes him just for the experience Tickles I've always been involved in squads here where a player's been like a wild card.

40:42Like, Fia Walcott came. What a waste of time that was, by the way. Stop. Yeah, Defoe should have come out for. Million percent. I was a wild card. Michael Owen? Me and Michael Owen were wild cards. Oh, yeah. In 2002. No, 98, sorry. But if not you, who would it have been then? It would have been... Phil Neville. Nah, that's not a wild card then, is it? No, no, a wild card. But it wasn't a wild card. I was the only me and Michael I were two wild cards you don't normally get two didn't carry it going no it was 2002 but my point is about Max and I think you've got to look at what he's shown coming up to this point like I said every level he jumps to he looks the same does the same impact looks the same doesn't change the way he plays because he's so good right so what's to say he's not going to do that for England he's done it at all levels was England youth.

41:35Like, he can do it. I'd take him one million percent. I'd take him. And who else brings fear to defenders like that in this current England team? I mean, you've got all of our star boys. If anything, wingers are underperforming, aren't they? Everyone's just, all of our players, they've all gone down. Our 10s and creative players. Everyone's just... No, Rodgers has had a good season. He's had a good season, but I'm talking about right now. We're talking about form right now. Brazil aren't scared of Morgan Rodgers. It's like, everyone's shot. And Meduaykin is probably the most... Benham's injured.

42:10Morgan Rodgers, yeah, I still think he's had a good season. Rashford probably goes, but he's not scaring anyone at the moment. It's massive how much the second part of the season counts, Because at one point, Kobe Menuh looked like he weren't going nowhere. But now... What's he threw in midfield? To play. If we were doing it today. Benham's injured. Can you play Warton, Rice, and Anderson? I think maybe against France you might yeah but you never get out no with the ball no you're looking at Warton being progress aren't you I would play Kane's going to come and drop deep they'll give you a diamond I would play but you're going to you're going to need legs ahead so Saka can't play he needs to take a seat that's right Rashford will play I would play if it was today and it is how it is now you've still got someone like a god I'd play Elliot Anderson Declan Rice Morgan Rodgers Deke Rodgers is going I think Rodgers starts Rodgers is going I think he's got a big chance of starting Rodgers is going I think he's quality I really like him if it's someone like Foden or someone who starts then you might as well just not bother watching I think what you're saying is 100 % Tuku has to have a coach these wingers or he has to get ones that naturally do it to be runners because if you're going to get the best out of Kane you need people that have got wheels and they're willing to run do you know what I mean and we haven't had that before in tournaments you people yeah but exactly in the team no one's making them runs behind teams etc Saka that's the one if I was ever critical of Saka that's the one bit I'd be critical he wanted to feed all the time he always wanted to feed and listen he's doing what he does he is ridiculous his efficiency he's quick enough as well to run that's what I'm saying because he's so quick and if I'm a defender and I know he's always coming to feed just makes my job that little bit easier i liked him better as a left-back that was in like 2021 rio did you see other ghula yeah goal on that on the weekend that's your boy right there

44:17have you seen the guy oh my god like what that like it was i don't think i've seen a better long long shot than that from that far that power I don't think I have Bex's one was nice but it was like it floated in it took a long time to come down that was like a drill man he's had a decent season to be fair to him I've seen Ballon d 'Or shouts I don't know if they're serious unfortunately unfortunately for him he's a big talent man yeah massive talent it just looks like to me Barca's now I think they're going to win it man I know there's still like man games to go but I think Real Madrid have got their eyes on a different press.

44:57I was saying, remember just looking at something totally different to that Champions League, man. The way they slapped up City 3-0. No one saw that. No one see that coming. The injuries they got. Vinny missed a penalty as well. Vinny missed, exactly. Could have been way worse. I love Mark Gay here. You see, when Barbedee flicked over him, I said, welcome to the Champions League. Like, different. Now, you've arrived. You know what I mean? Steve, you had a former pro play for you at Stratford Paddock this weekend. Who was it? Talk to me. We had Danny Simpson, Premier League winning defender, ex-United, obviously.

45:29Played with Rio. You played with him, didn't you? Played in the Champions League season. Yep, yep. Yeah, he's a good kid. Come through the ranks when I was there as a pro. It's mad because you've got so many, like, there's so many ex-players that are playing now up in Manchester. With and Charlotte Vets are doing an absolutely... Are they ringing you down? They should be coming to Stratford Pellet, shouldn't they? I would love it to. So, I don't know if you've seen, with and Charlotte Vets, they're winning every game about 18-0, right? It's not competitive. It's not competitive. Papis Cisse is scoring about seven a game Papis listen he needs to give you a shout come and ring me son because we really need a striker this is what you spoke to him so I've been chatting to him for ages and he said to me ages ago yeah I'll definitely come down and play and then it's just been ages getting him down to play but yeah it was good and we played against Stephen Island's team before he'd like took everyone down to Wyvernshaar Vets and Danny was playing against one of my strikers Ryan massive laddie he's about 6 '5 and Danny was playing centre half up against him and he was coaching him in the game.

46:28So a ball would come in, they'd deal with it and then you could see Danny going and I spoke to Ryan afterwards. I was like, what's he doing? He was like, oh, basically he was saying like, oh, that was a good run. But next time, get your arm into me, run this way across me, run that way. I was like, he's literally coaching you how to beat him in the middle of the game. I was like, that's class. I was like, I need someone in training that's going to do that. And just at the right time, manage games and stuff like that on the pitch. I've got four, five, 16-year-olds in my team every single week. And the lessons that they can learn, the standards that they can get from having someone like that or anybody else that fancies it in the changing room is absolutely gold.

47:03So, yeah, it was good. A few ex-pros do that, you know. When you play against them, I've had the chance to play in the charity games. They really like the good ones. They really do coach you through and stuff like that. So it's not the first time I've heard that I've experienced it as well. No, and you've got, you know, the info and the details. I was like, he doesn't know he's doing it half the time. The nuggets that you drop. But when you put a pair of boots on, you get on the pitch, like, you see it. Yeah, you really see it. I played a pass to him once, and I played a normal pass. And he went, no, no, no, no.

47:32I'm like, put it. And I thought, he could have just stopped it, but it goes, like, deep like that, innit? Imagine one of my 16-year-old centre-halves playing alongside him. The learning, I think your brother said it once. Played 45 minutes with you in a charity game. the most he's ever learned ever in his professional career yeah in the game against Celtic innit no no no when you played together oh I got you yeah massive shout out to Anton by the way he told me to come on the podcast today and give West Ham a big shout out for getting a point against seeing seeing the title but yeah anyway guys listen I'll give him a little bit of that actually because before the game Pep goes if we drop points against West Ham title race is done yeah then he got asked in a press conference afterwards so the title race is done who said that yeah you said that mate that's who said that and he said it's still on and he gave the little grid I thought nah it's over buddy it's over I'm just thinking West Ham West Ham have to get out West Ham is still it's tight down there though man I can't see West Ham going down beautiful beautiful place we all know who's going down don't we and I got no hate in my heart for Spurs but I love chaos and I think The utter chaos that will ensue.

48:48They might do a Leeds. They're going to have to do... Everyone's gone. Every single player at the club is gone. They've got the debt repayments on the stadium. That's going to hurt when you've not got Premier League... They're not factored in relegation into that whole financial situation. Can you imagine? That could be chaotic. Preston away next season. E. Preston away. Who's coming up? You see, Wrexham have got a very real, legit chance of coming up. They've got some good attack in football, you know? Impressive. Let's see. Just before we go, guys, Rio meets this month. Yeah, what's next? Argentinian, goal-getter, gunslinger.

49:24Batty Goal. I know it, isn't it? Batty Goal. One of the players I wish United signed the most in the 90s. Batist Utah. He gives us some talk about Diego Maradona that I've never heard that mad stuff. How was it? It froze the room. Even besides the Maradona chat, he must have stories, Fiorentina, obviously Argentina itself, Talks about how to score goals. What? If you're a young striker, you have to watch how he talks about scoring goals, movement and stuff. And the way he's thought about defenders, that mad. Good man. Do you ever play against striker? He might still be in there. No. No, he is not.

50:05He might still be in there. Are you sure? How old is he when you play? Yeah. How'd you go? No, I'm joking, I'm joking. How old is he when he... Did you play against him? You're respectful. Did you? Did you know when? When though, when? Oh, so I guess, actually, yeah. 2002 World Cup. England, Argentina. That when Beckham scored the penalty. Yeah, the penalty, yeah. I paid quite well. You were at your best then. I reckon you were probably at your best then. In the World Cup? Yeah. No chance. 98, he played in the game I was scored. Bro, you see that time? Yes. That's when you were probably, for me, that's when you became one of the best centerbacks in the world.

50:43Yeah, that's when I was recognized. The rat and people knew me. No, no, no. I'm not talking about people knowing you. I'm talking about you playing as a whole. Unplayable, bro. Yeah, I was flicking it over people's heads in that. Have you seen that little Instagram edit? That someone's done with you. Oh, the guy swearing. He's good. I think it's - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone's clipped it up. Yeah, it's a good watch. You forget. You do forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny. Yeah. Guys, that is you. A real meat's coming out soon. Make sure you turn on your notifications. make sure make sure you stay active in the Rio chat so Rio Ferdinand presents group chat oh mine wasn't letting me post yesterday oh yeah that was because I was trying as well it wasn't letting me post make sure where did you go where did you post it later especially when Arsenal you know guys thank you very much for watching and we will be back soon

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