Rio’s Rating? 8/10 | Declan Rice is SECOND most influential player in Premier League

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0:53I've said it before. I've said it before on other shows. I think it's time to go.

1:06Hi guys and welcome to another episode of Rare Presents brought to you by our trusted partners Crafted. Today we're going to take a bit of time. Why are you laughing? Because Steve's laughing. I can see him laughing through the camera. Yeah, you know we're going to be talking about today guys, it's Arsenal. That's why it's all laughter in the studio. I'm not laughing. I'm a serious guy about anything we talk about. But today we're going to look at Arsenal, man. Mr. Joel, our resident Arsenal delusional fan. I mean, fan. What are their best moments, areas they need to improve, discuss their best performance?

1:36And we're going to look ahead to next year. Joel, how's the season been for you so far as an Arsenal fan? I think overall it's good. I think it's It's definitely positive. Are we in the title race? Of course we are. We're very comfortable in our position at the moment. I just think it's the fear, isn't it? It's because we've been here before in the last three years where things look like they're coasting a little bit. No, seriously. In the last three years, during this time in the season, we've been very good. Well, this time of the year, the last couple of years, you've normally either had a cigar, a cake, or a pair of sunglasses on.

2:10What's happened? I've changed. And a mini trophy, Rilf. Don't forget the trophy. And a mini trophy. I've changed maturity. You know what I mean? Life experiences teach you that. You had sunglasses on earlier this year. Yeah, but I just, it was the lighting in the room, that one. So out of 10, what are you giving Arsenal right now at this stage of the season? I think eight and a half, is fair. Eight and a half. I'm not being delusional. Based on what? Can you tell me on based on? Well, I think we've had a, we had tough games in the beginning of the season. We lost against Liverpool, which again, can't really do much about it.

2:42we managed a result against City. I think besides that, we've done what we were supposed to do. We've had plenty of injuries, Rio. Like injuries have absolutely killed us and we've still somehow managed throughout the majority of it to come. Don't forget Liverpool were leaving in the beginning and we've, you know, surpassed them, which some might say it's not really hard to do this season. I know, I know. But, you know, we've done well. We've done well. I'll give you an eight. Eight? Yeah. Why not a 0.5? What do we have to do to get 8.5? or a nine? I think you had a nice gap and you've allowed a couple of teams to get closer to you again.

3:16Yeah. I think you guys have got to smell blood. You've been close enough the last couple of seasons and been pipped. I think you've got to smell blood at the earliest point and just go for it. And it's easier said than done. But I think you've got enough experience without winning but have got close enough to understand what you now need to do. So I think that the manager needs to get that across to the place. players. Do you think we need to beat, Steve? You're a bit quiet over there. Do you think we need to beat... Make your notes, mate. Don't worry about me. You're making notes. You're an idiot.

3:48Do you think we need to beat the bigger teams more often? So, for example, we didn't beat Chelsea. We haven't beaten City. We haven't beaten Liverpool. I just think one of those go into that we just don't lose these games. I think sometimes, especially if we were looking for confidence in our teams, it was like these games against the big teams that you're fighting for the championship with, you just don't get beaten. home or away home you get a bit more we need to beat them here especially away but just don't get beat but you've got to bully the teams outside that you've got to bully the teams near the bottom or middle part of the table and just be relentless against those teams and just try and be a little bit more tighter against the teams in and around you because that's where you've always let yourself down you know what I mean against the teams that you should win against especially at the critical points of the season you guys haven't been able to get them jobs done.

4:41And that's an area where you've got to change. Yeah. Before I ask you the next question, Steve, what notes were you making over there, mate? I'm just making notes, mate. Don't worry about that. All right, cool. When it comes to Mikel Arteta, personally... No, no. You can't ask that. We'll ask you. We'll ask you. I know where you're going with this question. Arteta don't win the league this year. What are you saying happens to him? I've said it before. I've said it before on other shows. I think... It's time to go! I think, I generally think you go with what the club wants. I think if the club If the club's seeing fit to stay on then I'm backing that.

5:21Does Mikel Arteta watch the show? He must watch the show. Wow. You never know mate, you're doing all these mad Rio meets bro. I'm surprised you haven't had him on yet. Resident Arsenal fan who travels everywhere with us makes the show happen. Tom. Tom. What are you saying? What are you saying? Arteta, you don't win the league this year, what are you saying? Still in. Still in of course. Of course. Of course, he said. Yeah, you see, I'm a supporter of the club. What does he need? If he doesn't win the title this year, what does he need? Does he need time? Does he need money? Because he's had plenty of...

5:48He needs time on your mill. 500? Double it, Rio. Let's start there. Because he's had a billion. With a B. No, at least Tom was a little bit more assertive. And he went, he stays in. Your shout. Well, what have they come up this hard? A year's and a billion. You tell me. If he hasn't delivered it now, when will he? We're on a project where, yeah, he hasn't got it over the line. yet, but you can see the fruits. You can see the fruits of us in the Champions League. So what does he need? Does he need more time or more money? We're on top of everything. Other than the league? What do you mean? We're on top of the league right now and the Champions League.

6:22No, it's not where you start, mate. It's where you finish. Yeah, and again, around Christmas or top of the league in Champions League. But it's where we are. I didn't say that's a guarantee that now we're winning the league. It's just that we're doing what we're supposed to be doing. that's why I gave it an 8.5 I think an 8 is a bit you know it's a bit light 0.5 off sorry miles off it again but I would if they didn't win the league this year I'd still keep Arteta 100 % you know I would just for the bants you know honestly no but where where he's taken you Arteta's been there and all of a sudden you've got ultras don't give it they're trying to be ultras they're trying to be they wear the black gear that's what's great at that but also we've got a North London Forever Song as well that's like all of a sudden the atmosphere has just shot up atmosphere where at Arsenal come on at the Emirates atmosphere atmosphere at Emirates have never been in the same stop it you dickhead nah I reckon there's a massive improvement he's done well I think he's done really well massive improvement yeah because it was the worst atmosphere in football as much as I'm giving it the whole you know what the club says he has to be winning a major trophy this season whether it's the Champions League whether it's the Premier League.

7:38He knows it. You don't need to ask me. Obviously, I'm a resident of the show, so that's why you're asking me. But he needs to win a major trophy. Not the FA Cup. I would love to see an FA Cup or a League Cup as a bonus. But yeah, he has to win something major in Rio. And if he doesn't, then the reality is there's conversations that need to be had. I don't think they will sack him though because he does so well for the team in general from a business perspective. We're a very well-run club. If you're looking at the whole, you know, the ethos of the owners in general, mate, Arsenal are fantastic.

8:12Is it Arsenal accounts or Arsenal football team, man? Come on. But where we are... What do football teams exist to do? But where we are in today's football, you have to take in consideration both. Right. Your run is up. So what are we doing? We're doing a lap of honour when the end of year accounts come out, are we? Because I thought football's not winning trophies and he don't win trophies. So, okay, someone else that could win you a trophy if you can be a player, a big pivotal part in that is Declan Rice. How important is he to you guys? Massive, Rio. Like, he really is. At the moment, obviously, for me, Saka's your match winner.

8:46Right, but I think... Steve! Why? What? What? Steve's a madman, you know? Oh, mate. Saka's your... Even though he stands saying it's been the way they should be this season, I think Saka steps up. Big games. He makes the right decisions. Whether it be an assist or goal, you know he's going to deliver. He's done it before. I think Declan Rice though he's the engine man shout out to Zubimendi because Zubimendi gives him the freedom to be able to do all of this but Declan Rice is he's coming in a zone now where it's not by the end of his career it won't be crazy to say he's had a better career than Gerrard or he's had a do you see what I mean like and that says a lot considering the fact that no Steven Gerrard's my favourite like he really is my favourite but it's Declan's at a team where he's got a chance where he could end up with more trophies and internationally as well.

9:38So, man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I agree with a lot of what you said there, but you're saying he's got a chance to end up with a lot more trophies. Then Steven Gerrard. Yeah, but he's not won a trophy at Arsenal yet. I know, but I think... Arsenal were not renowned for winning trophies. That's my point. No, but okay, let's break it down because I know you guys... Because where we are with Arsenal within the last two, three years, when he played for Liverpool, they weren't even competing like that in the league. Probably that one season with Suarez, but that's it really. They weren't consistent title challengers.

10:13They would hope they were title challengers. But they won four trophies in one year. 2009 they were title challengers. Cool, that was a great year. And I'm not saying, but that's why I said, if Arsenal carry on doing well in the Champions League, doing well in the league, the way they're doing pushing, we could be sitting here saying by the end of his career, oh, you know what? He's actually won more than Stevie G. So Steven Gerrard won five trophies, a couple of FA Cups, a couple of League Cups. Actually, it's a bit more than that. It's not that hard. It's more than five. About seven trophies.

10:42But it's not impossible to obtain. Champions League, UEFA Cup, a couple of FA Cups, three League Cups. But that's not hard to obtain. Deco Leib is 27 next month, right? You're talking utter shy if you think he's going to win more than Steven Gerrard. He's 27 now. He's 27. If he wins one a year, he'll be 34. Right. but it's not just that because you've got to remember look at Iniesta and Xavi how long were they getting on to them for not winning trophies mate you're talking about Barcelona I know but what I'm saying is things can change because you look now all of a sudden Marcus Rashford's the La Liga winner what I'm saying is things can change quickly as well but he's got to win seven trophies in like I like how you went with Steven Jarrod as well and didn't even bother attempting such greats of the game as Michael Carrick because he's getting nowhere near that trophy home Listen, as much as I like to ban him.

11:33You've got to look at Russell to look at Michael Carrick's trophy. You lot's finger's crazy. You lot's finger's on another level. When I look at Rio's stats, I look at Roy Keane's, I'm not even going to mention Scholes or Giggsie, yeah? Another planet. No, don't look at it. Don't even look at it. Yeah, no. It's true. I think Declan is in a position now where he's arguably one of the most influential players in the Premier League. Yeah. They've got Haaland, who's obviously the most influential player in the Premier League right now. I think I'd go as far to say as I think Declan's probably number two in that, the most influential player in the Premier League.

12:13I think when he's driving, when he's on it, Arsenal look a completely different team. He's number one, Haaland. Haaland's number one, yeah. Haaland changes everything for Man City. And I think that if he's not there, they look a completely different team. I think if Rice comes out of the team, Arsenal aren't going to be the same driving force and have them moments in games where you can just grab the game and just drive up the pitch 30, 40 yards. And he does so many different things. I see a lot of people try and get onto Declan because he might not look as pretty as a Vettinha or a Pedri. He's a different player.

12:42A totally different player. Brings something different to the party. So I don't like it when you say, yeah, but he's not a, yeah, he's a different player to that type of player. Don't expect that. Rodri's not a Pedri or a Busquets or whatever. But Declan, I just think he's got so many ways he influences a game, whether it's through his personality, whether it's through his sheer determination and his drive with the ball. He can pass a ball over various distances. He can run through and out of a press. And he started adding goals to the game as well. Now he's playing in a more of an advanced position.

13:19And probably the most important thing, he's always available. Yeah, he's always available. And yeah, so for me, if you got an injury, Obviously, I don't want any of them to get injured, but I think it's more damaging to have Declan Bryce injured rather than Saka. Because you've got Meduake that can back up. We've got back up in those positions. Who's backing up? What, Winieri's not been playing? I'll tell you one thing. If he did go out there, I'd love to see Odegaard and Eze together. I just think... In the games that you lot should win, I'm telling you, I'd play Odegaard and Eze together in eight stroke 10 positions.

13:56and I think you would hurt teams. You would hurt, but that is being a bit more loose, maybe being a bit more open and playing a bit more risk. That's not Arteta. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't see that happening anytime soon, if I'm honest with you. That's a problem. Yeah. I mean, look, we've spoken about Rice here. Arteta on Rice himself, he said his position has evolved and he's becoming a total player. A total player has to be able to do as many things as possible and he has the capacity to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's top. and he's like one of the only players you look at this generation, you go, not the only, but one of the very few players this generation, you go, he could, I think, transfer to our generation and compete.

14:37You think so? Yeah, I think he could compete. I think if he's in the right team, he'd be able to compete. I'm not saying whether he'd be better than this player or that player. I'm just saying, I don't think he struggles in our generation. No, he works at Liverpool, in my opinion. He's got the tools. I think he's got the capability to do that. Yeah, he does. Steve? I agree. I don't know if he's Arsenal's most influential person though I definitely agree that I mean he already has more assists than Saka anyway Who is then? Gabrielle's up there I think he's your most influential person On the pitch Might as well be The camera's on him Steve you just threw me off I went yeah man maybe Gabrielle or someone That he went to set-piece coach That's just too much Am I wrong?

15:23Yeah just just doing your best Stoke tribute act this season so go on 30 summit goals like is it only them is it only like prime Stoke that have got more set play goals than yours that's why he's the most influential person in your team Nicholas Jovar stand up son right man we've got loads still to come right on this pod but we'll be back shortly after this

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17:31Do you reckon he'll be... Steve don't even really like England, innit? So, like, do you reckon he's Tuchel's most important player? Declare. Declare. Outside of Harry Kane.

17:47maybe maybe I think he'll be massively important but I also think that you can get what he does out of Wharton and Elliot to be honest I actually think he's the first name on the sheet ahead of Harry Kane outside of Harry Kane I don't think you'd miss him as much as Harry Kane I think you could there's so many options in the number six that you could fill in easily ahead of Sacco I think from all I said before about personality, character understanding moments. I just think he's the one player outside Harry Kane. I think the manager, I can't go into it without him. I think he's a big profile and I think he's at that stage now where other international players are looking at the team sheet and going, yeah, he's got respect.

18:30He's got respect. He went off against Italy. Remember when he went off against Italy in the final, in the Euros? Yeah, yeah. I've spoken to players from the Italy camp since and they were like, I can't believe he's coming off. Wow. Name drop. Chiellini. We couldn't believe he was coming off. Almost going. Thank you. Well done. Cheers. Thank you. Just give it to us. I saw a couple of players as well in Qatar. Right. And they were like, they were raving about him, man. Saying, yeah, Rice, he's the truth. He's the one. I don't want to keep going back to it, but this is why I was so adamant at the time.

19:02Man United had to sign Declan Rice. Because I saw this. I just saw. And I'm talking beyond the pitch. Setting standards. at day-to-day standards, a leader, a player who's going to demand from others, an authoritative voice and presence. Like all of these things is what Man United needed and need. He had it in one body. He's always talking. You see him always putting everyone in their position. Like he's very, and I don't mean busy in a bad way, busy, but he is, everybody's on their toes. I can't talk highly enough about him as a player, but also as an individual that you'd want in your team. I have to give a massive shout out to Anton as well, because when we signed him, it was that classic line.

19:46Like when Fergie signed Van Persie and he goes, he's better than what you think he is. And Anton literally told me that. I thought, yeah, whatever. But honestly, way better than what I thought he was. But looking ahead, Rio, what would you like to see us offer a bit more in the second half of the season? I'd like to see you be a bit more like that I said about playing Esle and Odegaard at times. Be a bit more loose, a little bit more maverick. Now, that's in football general, I think, anyway. But I think for Arsenal specifically, they've got to win the biggest trophies, to take hold of the biggest moments in football, you have to play with an element of risk.

20:24Everything can't be just like, it's got to be like a Sabutio table. That piece has got to be there. Now, to a certain point, yes. And that gets you to that point of like, right, we're at the table now. We're with the big boys. The difference then is who's going to be able to take a risk in a moment and unlock something that is really, really, really methodical and structured. That's the Odegaards. That's the Ezeys. That's the Saka's. Let these guys free a little bit. I don't know. It's just in open play. And then if they can be a bit more like that, Arsenal, I think, just become a total different proposition and they bury teams.

21:07Because you can see it with City in it, guys. Cherki's becoming that guy, man. His connection with Foden, obviously outside of Haaland, just banging in all the goals and that. You can see there's that maverickness about him at the very least. When you go back to United during your time, who were those mavericks? I mean, obviously I can pick out Cristiano, but I mean, besides him. No, I see it. Yeah, there's loads. I mean, Nani. Nani's doing kick-ups against an Arsenal member back towards his own goal kneeing it, kicking it getting chased by a defender just doing little things and then that gives him the confidence further up the pitch just be a bit more free in a loose spirit Antonio Valencia I'm not talking that you don't have to be a flair player you've got to have just the intention to get up against people beat them and create an opening get that 1v1 done and all of a sudden right now I'm looking in the box and there's two or three or four runners in there what am I going to do?

22:00Happy days like just those moments where it's just the game's slow the game's really structured and everyone's just in their positions and it's a bit boring and all of a sudden that guy's allowed to just go and be that guy and do it freeness I'd love to see Arsenal be a little bit more like that If I was to ask you who's impressed you the most what would you say? I'm with Steve the set piece coach has been phenomenal yes and that's not that's not a good And that isn't a detrimental comment. Set pieces are a valuable part of the game. I think people need to understand. I think Steve's taken the mick, but there is an element of, you know what, he respects it.

22:40And I think you have to respect set pieces because it is a part of the game where you can get goals. But he's been great. But I just think Gabriel has been, Gabriel's top. But he's, Gabriel, I'll give you a rundown. You've got the likes of Gabriel. Zubimendi, I think he's unspoken of. I think Madueke he's probably been like more of a surprise underrated but still been good can I just say something where I think Arteta can improve as well Odegaard was injured you got Ethan Ngueri there sitting there young kid everyone's going like could be this could be that don't get involved you've got Lewis Skelly after an amazing breakout season can't get a kick no games even at the weekend a couple of weeks ago just gone you could play him Ben White played three games in a week he ends up getting injured just put him in yeah then you got arguably one of the most precocious talents in Europe right now Max Dalman you're going surely there's a way in this team to get glimpses of this kid this kid's another one who's going to give you that little bit of uncertainty when you're talking about other teams preparing for you trying to be structured, trying to cancel out all of your pluses.

24:01Max Downward brings that element of uncertainty. Who's this kid? Where's he come from? These are moments that can change your season. That's where Sir X was a joke. People like Makeda. Federico Makeda comes on the pitch against Arsenal, I mean against Villa. No one knows who he is, produces a moment and we go and win the league. Yeah, pivotal. These are maverick moments. These are moments just smelling the time to do it. I think your manager, if he can add that to his game, and listen, Fergie had been experienced and had loads, had run that course many times, so he knew, but he was always a chancer in those moments.

24:37I remember we played against Bayern Munich, quarter-final of the cup. We got beat in the end, right? So it's a bit of a mad, mad one to bring. But we started the game against Bayern Munich and he started Darren Gibson in midfield. And I'm telling you, the whole change of that I do in that, Yeah. What? How's that happened? The game's Bayern. Bayern Munich at home, got to win the game. I think it was three or four minutes in, give both scores. And then you look at each other going, right, fair play to the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. But there's just moments where a manager feels that and I think if he can bring that to his game and to unlock opponents and just to bring something different to the table, I think it'll be a really positive outcome for him, I think.

25:25I reckon, I remember when, I know it was, I think it was pre-season, but when Tom Cleverley started being introduced into the fold, like he knew when to bring in those players. I mean, when I look at the Warnieri situation, without knowing what's happening day in, day out, it actually upsets me, man, because I saw Ethan do really well last season. Like he filled in on the right-hand side sometimes when Saka was injured. He did really well when he played in the middle, when he's, you know, deputy for Odegaard. like I'm really happy that we got the likes of Eze at the club it bolsters our squad but I didn't I didn't want him to suffer because of it if that makes sense and if you're looking at the progress we talk about all these amazing young players Dalman etc but it's like Ethan is there man he needs to play games you know it's not as bad as the Kobe Maynou situation because obviously Arsenal we've done well so far this season but again there's similarities in that man I look at that and I go these young players need to play, man.

26:26I'm not saying that he hasn't played any, but for me, that one's a little bit disappointing. I look at the Mars Lewis-Skelly situation and maybe this is the role he was supposed to have last season. And last season, we got a bit excited because he had a breakout season. Califiri's done well for the players' role, by the way. He's justified in making it this season. But you know what as well? Look at the history of Arsenal. Arsene Wenger, Anelka. kid Ashley Cole kid Ashley Cole kid do you know what I mean the biggest one probably one of the arguably the biggest one as well because he came in so young and played immediately Cesc Fabregas yeah a kid you know what I mean like given those kids the exposure the opportunity I know times are different but Arsenal the bedrock of Arsenal's success back then was based on young players coming in around the experience that they had of the old guard but even before that you look at the likes of like Paul Davis coming from from the academy.

27:24Do you know what I mean? You've got young players, David Rowe Castle. Do you know what I mean? Built on those young players. That's the history of Arsenal. And Arteta, I think it's a great time for him to be able to do that. Yeah. All right, Rio. Hit me with the predictions, man. All right. Top scorer for Arsenal, Stee and Joel. Why is he smiling? That's a tough one though, you know? Gabriel. Mikel Marino. It might be Marino, you know, the way he's scoring. He's the best finisher at our club. Oh, I don't know, you know. Eze. Nah. Top goal scorer. Yeah. No. But it's not going to be Jokeres, is it?

28:09It'll be Mourinho, man. I don't think he'll play enough. Jesus might do it now. He's back. I don't know. I don't know. All right. Arsenal finishing league position. First. it better be first. Oh, I'm going to absolutely cook you if it ain't. I said first before a ball was kicked. I was going to, if I was a betting man right now, I'm going City. Nah. Well, you've switched. I want Arsenal to win it. Nah, so you switched. Yeah, I think, I think the way things are going now, our City might just win it now. Yeah. Listen, you lot are fine while there's no pressure on. The second anybody leans on you, you crumble like a cheapsnakes and lavish board, man.

28:50Honestly. Player of the season.

28:56Declan Rice Declan Rice yeah yeah Rice position in the Champions League I think you got a good chance to win it I think you're a good team I think we either win it but at the very very least the semis again I'm gonna go semis at the very least probably semis yeah probably semis yeah so that means you think we're a good team no it just means that football's in an all time low at the moment and you still won't win anything okay cool well that weren't as bad as I thought it was going to be to be honest with you I thought it was a measured it was a measured episode I'm not an Arsenal hater contrary to what people might believe out there Steve is I'm not an Arsenal hater no I wonder sometimes do you?

29:41yeah yeah you are the honestly and it's not just me it's people on socials they look at you based on what though? Arsenal fans yeah we we look at you Rio and we just think oh my gosh this guy why though? just the pokes over the years the only thing I've ever said really where it got you going and it still I stood by what I said was with Saka and Foden and Foden that's it and it wasn't even a bad shout about Saka it's just all I said is he's not yet world class but I think he will be at the time yeah you just don't come across as if you really support you take shots here and then you go but I want Arsenal to win but I do it's just like I don't know Jordan is right we all should want you to win you've got the evil empire in Manchester City which nobody should want to win anything but they haven't got any fans so it don't really make a hell of a lot of noise you've got Liverpool who if you was raised right you never want to see win anything anyway so you lot should be the default choice right but your fan base is so insufferable and deluded that no one can stomach you even winning a throw-in because the level that you guys go to is off the charts Like, I can't even...

30:54There was someone tweeted something the other day and he goes, you don't have to go looking for stuff with Arsenal fans because there's always a tweet. There's always a tweet. There's always someone saying something utterly bonkers. And that's why we can't stomach you guys winning it because you guys don't win anything and you think you're the greatest. Can you imagine if you actually won something? It's going to be mad. Do you know what I think there is? The only thing I'd say about Arsenal fans, there's an entitlement I knew you was going to say with Arsenal fans that I just don't understand where it comes from we should beat it what do you mean but we can say the same thing about Man United why because we've got a history of winning yeah but if you look at the last they ain't really won properly like I'm talking like the league or champions since you were there if Liverpool started saying in a couple of years like they were for 30 years we should be competing we should I get why they're used to winning that football club they're used to beating teams and winning big European competitions competing at the top table Arsenal they've been around it they've sniffed about but they've not really gone and convinced anybody that that's them where are you realistically you ain't as big as Chelsea you ain't as big as City you ain't as big as United or Liverpool I mean Villa have got a shout to be ahead of you they've got a European Cup you ain't got one of those like realistically your fifth or sixth best, biggest team in England at best, but you walk around like you sit next to us in Liverpool.

32:23You ain't on our table. Over there. Bruh. You sit with Plotman and Lesnar. You know you go out for Nando's with your family and you go, there's a few extra kids and you go, you guys sit over there on that one. Is that where they are? You just sit with a crayon. Don't look at me over here. Don't look at me. That's a liberty. Don't look at me. You sit over there. That's where you lot belong. You're being modest. Anyway, guys, I want to say thank you very much for watching us. 2025 has been an amazing calendar year. Come on, Arsenal. We hope to bring you more big interviews, more great episodes, more great international journeys.

32:59Rio. And more realism from you. I don't know about that. But thank you very much for watching. Joel Baer, Stephen Housen, Rio Ferdinand, signing out. Happy New Year. Merry Christmas. All that jazz. Peace.

33:18Thank you.

33:50Thank you.

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