Why Andrey Santos is NOT over-priced at £50m | How to defend Haaland

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1:19How much was Carl Walker? 50. How much was Danilo? Mendy? Yeah, 50. They're fullbacks. They're like almost 10 years, 7, 10 years ago. And we're paying£50 million for a 22-year-old midfielder, one of probably the top 6, 7 players in Liga Un last year. Going to be a Brazil midfielder for the next 10 years. And that's overpriced, you think?

1:44Yes, guys. Another day. Another amazing setting. Thanks to Airbnb. We're here in the hills. We've got Joel, we've got Steve and special guests. We've got Farrah Williams, the most capped England player, male or female of all time, here with us today for Rio Presents. Oh, man, and you know what else? We've got a live audience watching with us. Eight Airbnb guests to see what we're doing. What are we doing here? Are you guys happy to be here? Yeah! Yeah, that's right, man. Brilliant stuff, man. Exciting. We've got so much to talk about today. I don't know if I'm here for all that in the cheer, you know.

2:16You're already full of energy It's a bit early for that Steve, I don't know what Steve's I know This trip I've noticed about Steve He just He does a lot He works out every day He's doing too much But his talking energy levels Are horrendous Honestly, it's mad Sometimes I wonder He's not here to support in England Don't know why he's here It's mad, it's crazy But listen I'm enjoying myself My face don't tell you that Yeah, it's true He's enjoying himself But his face says a very different story Unreal, unreal Listen, I've got my partner in crime here She's exactly the same I'm definitely not. I've got the energy.

2:46England are doing great so far. So I've got... Have you seen your face? Yeah. You are exactly the same. No, I'm happy. Oh, my goodness. Anyway, guys, there's so much to talk about today. We're making all the plans for England versus Norway. What's your thoughts, Ria? I've said since the first game, I think we'll win the tournament. I think there's... France have been the best team. Spain haven't conceded a goal yet. But I think England have got the grit. There's something about England that's just suggesting to me that we're going to get over the line and we're going to win it. So I think we're preparing well.

3:16Managers give us, I think, 32 hours off after the last game. Get ready, reboot and prepare. Where are you going to watch the game? I'll be there. You'll be there? Yeah, lucky for me. So, yeah, Airbnb actually have put me up in an apartment in Miami. So I'll be heading there. You're milking that, aren't you? I am, I am. Mate, the Airbnb, wait till you see it. I'll put some pictures out on the day. But yeah, I can't wait to get there and go in live, actually, to my first ever World Cup men's England game. So super excited. That's incredible. Steve I don't even know if I should ask you but I will anyway because we've got a live audience here are you looking forward to that match coming up I look forward to every match tell your face that do you believe it you look forward to every match to critique the hell out of it yeah there we go that's the point I just like the underdogs do you like whenever there's a big team losing I love it it doesn't matter who it is or like when Cape Verde was putting it on Argentina I was so happy when Egypt was in front I was happy and I just I realised I'm a hater and I just love I love the underdog at least you realise that it took you a while four weeks in so if it's a favourite I don't want to win ever you mentioned earlier on that there was a 36 hour rest period did you ever get that much time off when you were playing?

4:28no I don't think the managers trusted our generation to have that amount of time off because because you'd earned that reputation yeah and many of us had earned that reputation not to be trusted so they had to keep tabs on us all the time you'd get a couple of hours here or there you'd get a lunch that you could go to with your family but even remember Baden-Baden in Germany like there was media everywhere we went into the town and it was just crazy so it didn't help us whereas the guys now are much more civilised I think they're more trustworthy in that sense so it's easier for them I think I got lucky on that because I was like you when we first started playing for England tournament football literally locked away in a hotel and it wasn't until like later on in my career 2015 where we had a changing manager and actually changing environment and I actually think it worked for us and I think the success of the Lionesses approved that that little bit of ownership and trust and responsibility that we're adults you know and trying to make being away from home which is already uncomfortable as comfortable as possible and that is living your life like you would at home and I think when we was restricted of that we didn't get the performances and yeah I mean I was lucky to get both sides of it and certainly the the second part where we was trusted to go about our business and do what we wanted and have more downtime you've got a better response out of the players if you can live as as close to your normal lifestyle while you're away with the team I think the better you've got remember like when we were away you'd be cooped up in your room for like six to eight hours a day you never done that at home normally I was you was out on school runs you was going to the shop you were doing whatever with your family it just it just and so to flip that and go like to completely opposite during the most important six weeks of your career it doesn't make sense to me so uh when I look back now so the guys look so much more relaxed it's good to say I mean Erling Harland is enjoying it more than most I think he's I've seen him getting kitted out with cowboy hats cowboy outfit like going shopping like just documenting things and just they just look relaxed and calm it's nice i see must have been watching you guys on the horses in your cowboy books you want to get involved you're not going to get fitter in that 36 hours it's probably better to have the mental reset in it than it is to do another training session well that's what i've been trying to tell you steve with all your working out just take a day off every now and again i'm not at a world cup well but your body sometimes needs what you just said your body needs to shut down sometimes and rest is more important at times than even the working we're at the stage now where we have to start worrying about potential suspensions so we got here on the list mark gay he nico o'reilly declan rice and jude bellenham are all at miss are all at risk of missing a semi-final if they get a booking against norway wait on that if they don't get booked in this next game but they get booked in the semis it right yeah yeah so what do you reckon Do you reckon that's going to be in their heads?

7:11Do you reckon it's going to change their approach, the way they play? Well, I played in a game in 2009 with Darren Fletcher. We played Arsenal, actually. We beat you. Champions League. And Darren Fletcher got booked in the second leg. So he was suspended for the final. For a perfectly legitimate tackle. Can we put that out there, please? Yeah, it was a perfectly legitimate tackle. And what I would say is that when it happened in the game, it was like a body blow. because I don't think people remember how important Darren Fletcher was at that time in our team. Possibly one of, if not the most important player in our team at that point.

7:50I've heard that over the years and I've always thought it was gas. No, it's not. Oh no, if Darren Fletcher played in that Champions League final, we would have beaten Barcelona. Come on. I'm not saying we would have beat Barcelona. There's a lot of that going around though. No, no, I'm not saying we would have beat Barcelona because that's the best club team I've ever seen. I'm saying we would have been closer. he was the engine in our team he was the legs in our team watch the Arsenal game that day mashed up Arsenal mashed up Arsenal I'm just saying and we lost him and I don't think he's ever got his flowers for how important he was in that period anyway so taking it back to England those guys will be well aware there will be some fear in that and no one wants to miss the next game in the semi-finals and have to tread carefully but what happens in general is you go into the game and you have to be full throttle.

8:39Anybody who's not full throttle, the team's not working the way it should do. Yeah, and you know what? Just touching on that, I played in the World Cup in 2007 and the group games, I was already on a yellow card so we're going into our third group game, me and Kelly Smith. So we were key to the England squad back then. Those of you that watch women's football, Kelly was like, yeah, key for us. And that Argentina game, we're like about 4-0 up. Hope takes Kelly Smith off. So obviously, she ain't got a yellow card. Keeps me on the pitch, I get a second yellow in the group. So I missed the quarterfinal against America.

9:08Was it a silly challenge? No, it was just, you know, we just got tangled. But then, because they're breaking away, I got a yellow card. But you know, like trying to, like, as I say, I was just playing the game. You have to go into it without telling you. You forget you're on a booking. It was only at the end where everyone's coming up to me and hugging me as if like I've done something special. We won the game like 6-1. And I'm like, what have I done? And then it clicked. You're going to miss the quarterfinal. Oh, you didn't even realise at the time. I didn't realise. I completely forgot. So I went into it like, as in, it's just another 90 minutes.

9:33But I missed the quarterfinal and everyone's like, oh, you're such a team player and he's gutting. But yeah, as you say, you go into that game with kind of the same mentality any other game. You don't even, the booking don't play a part. Some people do though. They know, don't they? Obviously, like when Keenan Scholes got booked in 99, they both knew at that moment, that's you out of the final. Scholes especially, it looks like he's going to burst into tears when he got booked. I mean, Gazza. Gazza did burst into tears, obviously. Declan done well the other day. He got booked in the first minute and he lasted the whole game.

10:00I was surprised the manager actually kept him on, but the manager knows the player he's working with, intelligent. How do you think this changes Thomas Tuchel's approach now in setting up the team? Do you reckon he's thinking, oh, can't start this player, can't play this player? Because you just said a second ago, he knows the temperament of Declan Rice. What does that mean for the rest of the team or the other players that are on the same kind of vibe? I don't think you can go into it like that. I think he's just going to go and just play his best team, the best team for the day. And then whatever happens, happens.

10:25You have to deal with the consequences after. and he'll trust in the players being sensible. The worst thing is if one of them gets booked for verbals, for dissent, that's when you sit there and pull your hair out. But if it's a tackle and it's a genuine go for the ball and it just mistimed or whatever, you've just got to accept it. It's part of the game, simple as. I actually think that Thomas Tuchel, I think he actually trusts the players. I think you look at the substitutions the other day when we're down to 10 men and the players he brought in. I think all of us as fans wouldn't have been saying from the side, let's get these players into the game.

10:55So I think he trusts the whole squad. That's why he selected them. And I think even if, you know, hopefully none of them get a second yellow and miss the semi-final if we get there. But I think he trusts players to come in and replace the players at the start. And I think that's why he took that squad of players. I think the best example of discipline I've seen was France versus Paragra. I mean, the way they were getting, do you know what I mean? How, well, I saw Elise get a yellow card, but it was barely his fault. But how they can control themselves was excellent. Obviously, you've got the big chat, Haaland.

11:25And, you know, everyone's talking about how dangerous he is because he really is. You know, it seemed like he was getting through quietly in a tournament. All of a sudden, hang on a minute. He's a superstar now since beating Brazil on those two goals. If you're a defender, what are you preparing to come up against Haaland? Like, who should be more afraid? Yeah, you go on. England have just asked you 20 minutes. You've got to go speak to the centre-house. What are you saying? The first thing I'm talking, I'm talking to the centre-house, yes. but before I go to them, I'm saying we're going to stop the service into Haaland.

11:57So I've seen too much in the tournament so far, fullbacks and wingers being very passive when they go out to the opposing wingers who are crossing the ball and almost saying, go on guys, you cross the ball. Haaland's in that box, one of the best movers, if not the best mover around right now when the ball's wide. You've got to stop and make it difficult for the man on the ball who's looking to play the ball into Haaland. That's all I used to do is turn it back. That was one of my biggest things when I played. If I was playing against someone who had good movement in the box, in the air or on the floor, I'd be on to the fullback.

12:29Do not let them cross the ball. Make it hard. Don't let them get their head up to pick Harland out. Now, once you do that, you look at yourself and go, OK, there's going to be times when the ball does come in the box. Now, what am I going to do? What do I have to do best to stop him? And I think with Harland, you've got to get against him. I know he's strong. I know he's powerful. I know he's quick. But if you leave him space and he separates from you and he's got space to see your number and run at you or run around you, you're dead. So get your arms on him, get your body against him and check him and make him adjust his stride at times so his run isn't just smooth into the areas that he wants to get into.

13:06The moment you leave him with freedom and just time to look and see and decide what he wants to do, if he's deciding that situation, he beats you nine times out of ten. But there's another issue though, his leap. Like the guy leaps like... It doesn't matter. Listen, if you get against someone, and if you're six foot nine, and the ball comes in, and I'm next to you, and I'll just move you a little bit with my body, it doesn't matter how much you jump, you're not jumping the same way, and your timing's off. So I get the advantage. He comes alive in the box. Obviously stopping crosses is important, but for centre half in terms of that focus, and staying switched on in those moments that he's not involved, and he's waiting for those moments to get that half yard, how switched on do the guys have to be at centre half for that?

13:49Yeah, concentration is another massive key factor because like you say, when the ball's dead and the ball's in different areas, that's when you can lack concentration. You think, oh, we're safe. The moment you start feeling that you're absolutely safe in 90 minutes in any point is the moment when you're at your weakest. Because these guys, they stay alive the whole time and they're just sniffing for a millisecond. And the moment you, like switching off is like the ball's over there and I then start just doing that and focusing over there. And I feel good. I feel comfortable. it's 40 yards away he's on the move the ball turns over the ball gets in behind and I'm still oh Harland's gone it's that quick and so that's the difference between the top players the top players stay concentrated for 90 minutes and all eyes on the guy and the other ones switch off here and there and they get punished Do you reckon we've got a little bit of an upper hand because obviously Gehi plays with him at City Kons has played against him Stones plays with him in terms of kind of knowing that movement and training with that and being used to it a little bit Yeah but then you've got like Gabriel he's had about he's had how many battles has he had with Gabriel and he smoked Gabriel the other day he smoked Gabriel the other day like so so Gabriel knows him inside out he would have prepared for him the biggest games in the Premier League calendar he's prepared for him and got smoked so you look at that and it's like doesn't matter how much you know someone they know you as well have you seen the stats that he's got seven goals in the last ten shots against Pickford that will be in Pickford's mind Pickford guy His head hits the pillow tonight.

15:20Pickford's thinking of that stat. How can anyone know that? Weren't there a similar one? Jimenez, didn't he have a similar stat against Pickford as well? Going into that mix. I'm sure that there was a similar stat around the goals he scored. Pickford was amazing that game. It might focus Pickford. It might get him to keep playing at the level we've been playing at. Right, man, we've got loads still to come on this pod, but we'll be back shortly after this.

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16:58Taking care of your health just got easier. Download the ZocDoc app today and book that appointment on your to-do list. That's Z-O-C-D-O-C. ZocDoc. You see, Steve, Rio said that obviously you have to try to stop the guy putting in the cross to stop Harlan. If I was to ask you, who are you starting then for at the back to prevent this, what would you say? There's not a lot of choice, mate. It's so poor in defence. Poor? Yeah, it is. Come on, Steve, man. You can't say that. It is poor. It's been poor. Your step 44. All right, let's start Dan Burnham, shall we? Your step 44. The Panic team is going to be watching this, you know?

17:40Yeah, I don't care. They're all dry in comparison to England players. Dead players. But that's not a fair comparison though, is it? Poor compared to what else England have had in the past and what's at the tournament. Talk to me, Steve. It doesn't matter. I would like to start Rhys James, but I think he's fit, but he's probably not going to start, is he? He's the best full-back that you've got. So you want to play him. What do you mean you've got? We've got. We've got them. Okay. That's the first time he said we about England this whole tournament, by the way. I say it by accident sometimes. I want to start Rhys James, but I don't think he's going to.

18:12Because I don't think he... So it's going to be Jed Spence and it's going to be Nico O 'Reilly. Both of them on yellows. No, just Nico O 'Reilly. Just Nico. Nico, yeah. That's what it's going to be. Jed Spence will get out there and stop crosses. Yeah, stop crosses. That's his game. Getting close to people. 1v1. He did that well, though, didn't he, against Mexico, I felt. Him and Warden down that left when he came into the game. We needed that because they were trying to load the box of crosses. I'm seeing a lot of crosses are increasingly not coming from wingers though. They're coming from, wingers are going down the line, they're getting doubled up on and they're passing it back to a fullback who's in space and the fullback's hitting it from like the edge of the box and going to the back stick.

18:51That's a big one you've got to watch, especially with Haaland. If you switch off at him at the back stick, oh my God, you're in trouble. I think he's dangerous. Obviously, Steve, you said he scored seven goals from 10 shots against Jordan Pickford. He's also scored seven from 18 this tournament. Best conversion rate in the Golden Boot race, 11 % better than Messi. efficient he's efficient and that's the thing as well harlan don't need to be in the game harlan doesn't care if he has seven touches in a one in one half he does not care all he's thinking about is when that moment comes i'm alive i'm ready and i'm going to punish you and that's what that's why the england defenders will be on their toes they will be sitting there going this is the massive game this is the acid test for us because you can say that norway aren't a great team etc but they play absolutely to harlan's strengths that's what separates him that's what separates him from other strikers you think of all the strikers that want to get involved in the game and need touches in order to feel a part of it whereas he's not bothered about that who's more nervous eight touches a game and get a goal he's not bothered take the goal who's more nervous tonight Norway centre-halves or England centre-halves both both yeah I think they're both nervous I think they're both I think also their defenders will be worrying about our attacking players Jude Benham they'll be worried about do you know what I mean I don't think our midfielders are going to be as worried about an Odegaard because Odegaard is more of a tempo player.

20:12He'll be getting involved in the tempo, but I don't hope I don't tempt fate, but he's not a goal scorer of a midfielder. I think you're wrong though. I think if I'm England, I'm going, you've got to mind that guy because like you said, he makes things tick and if he finds Haaland, which he has been doing so this tournament, it could be game over. Yeah, but as you mentioned, you've got to allow him to get that rhythm. So if England don't allow that rhythm, Anderson starts to break it up all of a sudden and we've seen that with Odegaard. Unless he's dictating rhythm and tempo of games, he's not in a game.

20:38So if he stopped that early, and we're not going to stop a lot early, crosses, etc. If you stop him early in the game, you'll lose him. I'm not saying they're not worried about him. I'm saying they're not as worried as they would be about Juve Bellingham. That's my point. I think that's fair. Really quickly, Harry Kane, though. We've spoken about Haaland and how dangerous he is. We've got to show love to our boy, man. Harry Kane, I know you're watching. Do your thing, man. Just do what you do. How close did it to Ballon d 'Or this year? Very close. If England get to the final, it depends who wins it if England don't win it and France win it one of them boys is winning the Ballon d 'Or but if England get to the final and and we win it Harry Kane wins the Ballon d 'Or he'd have 70 something goals in a league season only Messi's ever done that in all of football in the top five leagues it's outrageous and I don't think he's even getting the praise that he deserves he is a ridiculous striker who has now gone from an absolute out and out number nine and morphed into a playmaker and a defensive midfielder and the best goal scorer all in one.

21:37It's outrageous and he comes up in big moments. That's always been the question about him. Can he come up in the biggest moments? He is. He has. He's doing it. I mean, I think it's top three, isn't it? It's probably Harry Kane, Alise and can we even say Mbappe? Harry Kane, Alise. Yes. Mbappe's got 40-something goals this season. I know, but the way they do it, even if he wins the World Cup, I think Alise might get it. No, the World Cup, mate. If Mbappe's top goalscorer. If Fard's winning, Mbappe gets golden boot. He's winning the Ballon d 'Or. He's winning it, yeah. I hope you're right, mate. World Cup year makes the Ballon d 'Or different.

22:10The voting system is different. Even though he got runners-up at Real Madrid and La Liga. Let us know what you think as well in the comments. All right, guys, I want to move it on to transfers at the moment. Now, the big news is that Andre Santos has moved from Chelsea to Manchester United for£50 million. Rio, I'm going to start with you. I want to know the profile of this player, please. He went to Strasbourg and was one of the best players in Ligue 1 the year that he was there. Been involved in 40-something games for Chelsea last season. Only started 13, but he's been involved. 22 years old, young kid.

22:43I think there's a lot of growth, there's a lot of potential there. I spoke to one of the guys behind the scenes with recruitment at Chelsea when he first went there, and they were raving about him and the potential in the kid. He'll be a Brazil national team player for the next 10 years, no doubts in my mind. The big question, and I think there's a lot of disgruntlement in the actual Man United fan base. Man United fan base have been expecting a big, like, mad signing because that's what's been reported in the news. And he doesn't fit that because he's 50 million. He's not the main midfielder at Chelsea.

23:18But Man United, I think, have bought someone of the right profile for the club, who's going to be one of two or three midfielders that they signed this year. and they're not going to go out and blow the whole budget on one big player if it doesn't sit right with the club in terms of the right budget for the club and where we're at right now. I'm so surprised at that signing Rio. I mean, as a Chelsea fan, I'm like, you talk about the structure at Chelsea and them wanting to have an average age of a certain amount. We've probably got one of the most up-and-coming holding midfielders in there, 22 years of age, and we're selling for£50 million to a rival team.

23:50I actually thought, in terms of minutes, you're coming up against Caicedo and Enzo. Of course, you're not going to get those minutes. But in terms of development, where you're saying he needs that little bit of development, he could have get it through games at Chelsea. Why we've sold him? I think he's very disciplined. I think in terms of breaking up play, he does it really well. And one thing I like about him, which you don't really get from holding midfielders as much anymore, he wants to play forward. He wants to break lines and he wants to get good players in those 10 pockets on the ball as early as possible.

24:17And so I think we've lost a good player there. A good young player with great potential. Steve Rio mentioned that there was a bit of not 100 % happiness in the Man United fan base people are pissed off let's have it right and I blame the club for it and it's not about the player it's about the expectation and I put the expectation purely on the club the club were briefing Elliot Anderson even when everyone was like he started following City on Instagram and everyone's saying he's going to City the club are going we're still in for him even like a couple of times where you're like are you sure because it's like everyone's talking about him going to sit in the club are still kind of like you know internally briefing or you're briefing journalists that yeah we're still looking at Elliot Anderson and then he's like oh he's signed for sitting for 130 million like oh okay and then the same thing happened with Chiuamani I've said all summer these two for me are the tier one sort of central midfielders these are ones that you sign and you go oh that's serious I thought Fernandes and Tenali were probably more like a tier two sort of level and then everybody else that we've been linked with I put them on tier three good players but not the sort that you would go oh we're going to kick on now you know like genuine potential superstars but world-class players just on that you okay man united say say what you're saying is correct that man united have briefed the media and said that yeah we're in for these players that doesn't mean that man united have a divine right to get those players if those players at the beginning when they're negotiating or a price that man united feel is the right price and they're in for it yeah that's great but if that price then goes to an astronomical number, the Man United go, right, our budget doesn't stretch that far.

25:52Are you saying that Man United should just blow the budget? Nope. So what are you saying then? I think that when it went to 130 million, whether we even had a chance to sign him or not, yeah, we couldn't have afforded that, I don't think. And the same with Chirmini, he's on 400 grand a week, his new deal that he just signed at Real Madrid. That would have absolutely torpedoed our wage structure. So no, I've not got an issue with us not completing those deals. I've got an issue with the club setting the expectation all summer. Like they would have known, they sat down with Chirmini but the expectation is that though the expectation they want that player but it's like they've got no divine right to actually get that player but don't brief it that's all I'm saying is don't put it out there that you're in for him I don't think it's an absolute brief a question has probably been asked are you in for Anderson are you in for Chirmini the club yeah we are we're being open and frank with you we are in for them gets to a price they can't compete at now no we're not thank you we'll move on to another choice within a budget that is for the security of the club long term and I've got no issue like I've said all summer the same thing if we signed like a Senna Lemons someone that was a little bit of a gamble but he was cheap I've got no problem with that because if the profile is right and I think Santos might be the right profile but when you look at the optics of it that you've spent all summer playing footsie with a couple of world class players and then you sign Chelsea's third choice midfielder for a lot of money but that is the game of negotiating though the game of negotiating is that you're in the mix at some point and then you're not right Then you move to the next choice.

27:17And it's like, okay, the regime before, we're going and buying over the price. Yeah, we would have done it without. Bigger wages that absolutely hemorrhage the club. That was the other end of the scale. Now we're doing this, which is a bit more civilized, a bit more sensible, I think. And look at the last window we had, by the way, with all the players. It started with Dogu before, and then you get Le Mendes, then you get two Kunio and Abumo, who are Premier League-type players. like Lenny Uro like hey heaven you're looking at more sensible signings and but people still aren't happy I just I can't understand it it's just it's starter money for a guy that isn't a starter what 50 million for a midfielder in today's game start now that's bargain money like you got Mbumo and Cunha for 60 last year how many years ago were Man City buying full backs for 50 mil not that long ago a while a good while ago how much was Carl Walker 50 how much was Danilo not sure around them types of Mendy they're fullbacks they're like almost 10 years 7-10 years ago and we're paying 50 million pound for a 22 year old midfielder one of probably the top 6-7 players in Liga Un last year or the year before going to be a Brazil midfielder for the next 10 years and that's overpriced you think?

28:32Yeah because there's still tons of midfielders Sangare's 30 you're looking at 30 for Stille you're looking at 30 for Sander Berg I think it's a lot of money for him How old is Sander Berg? He's older longevity with his kid I think I can understand Steve's frustration but I think it also depends on you're right you've got to look at it judge it at the end of the window then you can say yes well you've got to judge it after a year of him playing for us rather than the end of the window well you've judged you've just made a judgement straight away but I'm just at the end of the window you'll be able to see just to add as a stat by the way for Andre Santos there's nobody aged under 23 who made more successful attacking line breaking passes in the Premier League.

29:15That's with 13 starts. That's a joke. That's crazy. So yeah, really high percentage of duals won as well. What about you then? Bruno Gamera has told Newcastle reportedly that he wants to get off. I'm like, steal this one, mate. What? Good signing. I think a good pairing with Rice, but I hope that's not our marquee signing. Mate, he's a quality player. Are you insane? No, really good player, but I don't want him to, listen to what I'm saying here. we have 280 million to spend roughly which is what I'm hearing without really having to sell players right so we've made a lot of profit we can do what we want that's what happens when you win so what are you expecting instead of Bruno Gamera you know what it's more the position not the player it's I really want the left winger position to get sorted oh can we interest you in a Marcus Rashford I don't know I don't know yet I'd take that 25 mil there's a side of me that would but then there's also a side of me that wants to know who's out there as well first I'm taking Rashford if I could get Rashford for 30 mil I am sweeping Matt Rashford off his feet yeah absolutely you know Gimmarish though like we're in an Arsenal team I think you probably need a six a deeper a deeper midfielder more disciplined I don't think Rice wants to play there as a deeper I think he wants to get and join in be that box to box player so where will Gimmarish where will he play I can only see him players at eight doesn't it feel like every team's moving towards like a pair of more box to box rather than one sort of like Makaleli kind of I like Kone from Roma French midfielder You guys are linked with him, you know?

30:41I like him a lot. I really like him. I saw Patrick Vieira talk about him the other day as well, very glowingly. So, yeah, I think he'll move somewhere this summer. But I think Bruno Guimara is a really good signing for you guys. No, really good signing. I'm not upset with the signing at all. I'm like 60 mil, 28 years old, nine goals last season, seven assists. And that's in a team that doesn't always have possession. So I'm expecting good things. Yeah, but that expectation is different. For players that are playing, I mean, Newcastle aren't a small team, but in terms of competing, they are. They finish, they finish.

31:08Where'd they finish last year? I don't know. so what I'm saying is that when you have that expectation you can look as good as he has looked now the question is if he goes to one of the bigger teams where he sits and you know how good he is so it's a test for him do what I love I love that every single summer Newcastle get picked apart by big clubs and a player has to come out and go I hate this place get me out of here because I'll talk to that which cameraman you lot you think you're a big club right you're not and you never have been and you've only been like the plaything of people with dough for years and that's the only reason that you've ever been relevant you're not a big club no one wants to come and play for you and when they do they realise they don't want to stay there very long and then you get sold to a big club that actually does some stuff where have you got this energy for Newcastle guys this isn't representative of all us by the way we're all thinking like this it's Steve over there I don't like Newcastle ok interesting stuff wow I didn't know you had that feeling about him man that was hard he actually looked directly at the camera straight lines down it and we'll be back we'll be back for Lewis Hall you can really start creating oh my gosh You might have sabotaged that.

32:10What's the score predictions, guys, before we go for the England-Norway game? 2-1 England. 2-1 England. What are you going, Steve? 3-2. To who? I think England. I'm going 2-2 in normal time. But then I think it goes pens, and I think England win it on pens. I think England won 3-1 in 90 minutes. Ooh. That's nice. Pens, Joel. I don't want pens. I don't want pens. I don't want pens, but... I don't want extra time. I want to lose no more hair. We don't want pens, because we're flying right at full time. we're going to miss it honestly I had chest pains after that Mexico game that last 35 well it ended up being like 42 minutes oh mate I was sitting there thinking what is like what's happening to me anxiety hit hard but I want to say thank you very much for everybody watching massive shout out to our live audience again you guys have been brilliant courtesy of Airbnb courtesy of Airbnb in this spot as well it's nice here it's nice man what I need to get some shorts on yeah I was not asking what you're doing I'm like dying I thought he was going to do it in the shade no man it's hot out here we're enjoying it but yeah thank you very much for joining you've had Stephen Housen, Farrah Williams, myself Joel Baer, Rhea Ferdinand signing out peace

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