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Episode Overview
- Title: Greenland Spat Jars Markets, Earnings Overshadowed
- Host: Keith Lansford
- Date: January 21st
- Description: This episode discusses the impact of geopolitical tensions, particularly related to President Trump's comments about Greenland, on U.S. stock markets, alongside a focus on ongoing earnings reports.
Key Themes and Highlights
- Market Reaction to Political Developments
- President Trump threatened additional tariffs on European allies if they opposed the sale of Greenland to the U.S.
- This geopolitical tension led to a significant sell-off in U.S. stocks.
- The three major U.S. market indices fell sharply:
- Dow Jones: -1.76%
- S&P 500: -2.06%
- Nasdaq: -2.39%
- Lizanne Saunders, chief investment strategist, noted that risk appetite is declining.
- Global Market Sentiment
- The sentiment was not limited to U.S. markets; European and Asian markets also weakened.
- Concerns over trade retaliation and broader geopolitical issues were prevalent among traders.
- Earnings Season
- Strong earnings reports have not been able to support U.S. stock prices amid rising geopolitical risks.
- Highlighted Earnings Reports:
- Johnson & Johnson: Investors are keenly awaiting its guidance and performance updates, especially regarding legal issues related to talc litigation.
- Other notable companies releasing earnings include:
- Prologis
- Kinder Morgan
- Halliburton
- Truist Financial Corporation
- Citizens Financial Group
- Ally Financial
- Future earnings to watch include companies like GE Aerospace and Intel.
- U.S. Economic Indicators
- The ADP National Employment Report indicated a drop in job creation averages to 8,000 jobs per week.
- China's GDP growth slowed to 4.5%, the lowest in nearly three years, highlighting global economic concerns.
- Interest Rates and Inflation
- The U.S. Treasury yield curve steepened due to rising geopolitical tensions, with longer-term yields expected to remain elevated.
- Current market expectations suggest a low chance of a Federal Reserve rate cut in the near term (5% for next week, 21.5% for March).
- Commentary suggests the Fed may cut rates one to two times later in the year under careful conditions.
- Market Movers
- 3M: Stock fell nearly 7% despite surpassing earnings forecasts due to weak demand in its consumer segment.
- SanDisk: Gained approximately 9.5% thanks to strong demand expectations from the AI and data center sectors.
- Netflix: Dropped over 4% due to concerns over future earnings despite reporting better-than-expected fourth-quarter results.
- United Airlines: Stock rose roughly 2% after positive earnings results.
- Sector Performance
- Information technology led the market decline on rising long-term Treasury yields.
- Defensive sectors like utilities and healthcare performed better as investors adopted a risk-off approach.
Conclusion
- The podcast highlighted significant market volatility driven by geopolitical tensions and a cautious earnings season. The potential for further tariff discussions and a looming U.S. Supreme Court decision regarding tariffs adds uncertainty to the market outlook. Investors are advised to keep a close watch on economic indicators and earnings reports in the coming days.
Further Information
- For additional insights, investors can visit [Schwab Market Update](https://www.schwab.com/market-update) or follow the podcast for updates.
- Listeners are encouraged to leave ratings or reviews to help others find the show.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGeopolitical Tensions Impacting Markets
0:45 to 2:44
Discussion on how President Trump's Greenland remarks affected market sentiment.
“up momentum, said Lizanne Saunders, chief investment strategist at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.”
Earnings Season Highlights
2:44 to 3:59
Overview of notable earnings reports and what to watch for.
“While geopolitical tensions have taken center stage, earnings season rolls on today, with Johnson & Johnson the highlight.”
Market Actions and Economic Data
3:59 to 5:32
Insights on market reactions and economic reports released.
“inflation are all playing a role in propping up yields.”
Sector Performance and Market Movers
5:32 to 7:37
Analysis of how different sectors performed amid market volatility.
“Looking further ahead, investors' attention will shift to U.S.”
Market Statistics and Closing Remarks
7:37 to 9:02
Summary of the major indices' performance for the day.
“The homebuilder also warned that it expects home sales gross margins to shrink sequentially due to higher incentives offered to buyers.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Welcome to the Schwab Market Update Podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead.
0:17I'm Keith Lansford, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Wednesday, January 21st. Earnings season has taken a backseat this week as President Trump threatened additional tariffs on European allies over the long weekend if they opposed the sale of Greenland to the United States. All three major U.S. market indices tumbled on Tuesday as investors' sentiment was shaken by the geopolitical tensions. Risk appetite is waning and the sell America trade is picking up momentum, said Lizanne Saunders, chief investment strategist at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. The sell-off isn't confined to U.S.
0:56markets. European Asian markets also weak as traders fret over possible trade retaliation and broader geopolitical headwinds tied to diplomatic tensions. Treasuries also sold off after several European Union countries threatened to suspend previously agreed-upon trade deals, and the Danish pension operator Academiker Pension revealed plans to exit its roughly$100 million treasury position by the end of the month. The move underscored concerns about demand for U.S. debt amid rising trade tensions. While markets were rattled by the Greenland-related spat on Tuesday, the longer-term impact of the latest geopolitical and trade drama is still up in the air.
1:39We need more details. We have seen many tariff threats recently, with not all of them being carried out, said Kevin Gordon, head of macro research and strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. That's not to say that the Greenland developments don't matter. If the proposed tariff increases in our EU partners do kick in, that would be a fairly dramatic escalation in the trade dispute with the EU. We just find ourselves in a position of having limited information at this point. so does the market, which makes the reaction difficult to extrapolate. With trade tensions rising, investors will be closely watching a looming U.S.
2:16Supreme Court decision on whether the executive branch can legally impose sweeping tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. If the Supreme Court limits the executive branch's ability to enact tariffs, it could force the government to refund billions in tariffs. That has the potential to add another kink in the process of assessing what the state of trade policy will look like going forward, said Gordon.
2:44While geopolitical tensions have taken center stage, earnings season rolls on today, with Johnson & Johnson the highlight. Investors will be closely watching the company's guidance and its medtech and pharma segment performance, as well as any updates on the legal overhang of talc-related litigation. Earnings from real estate logistics provider Prologis, the energy infrastructure giant Kinder Morgan, and the oilfield services company Halliburton will also be in focus. Additionally, investors will have a packed slate of financial services and regional bank earnings to monitor today from companies including Truist Financial Corporation, Citizens Financial Group, and Ally Financial.
3:28Later in the week, investors will be focused on earnings from GE Aerospace, Procter & Gamble, Abbott Laboratories, and Intel. Shifting focus to market action on Tuesday, while stocks plunged, gold prices surged as investors sought traditional safe haven assets. The Treasury yield curve also steepened significantly amid the escalating tensions between the U.S. and the EU. Longer-term yields could remain elevated in the near term, said Cooper Howard, Director of Fixed Income Strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research, noting that a higher term premium, geopolitical concerns, and elevated inflation are all playing a role in propping up yields.
4:08After dropping to their lowest level in over a year last week due to President Trump's decision to direct mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy$200 billion in mortgage-backed securities, mortgage rates also rebounded on Tuesday, mirroring the move higher in longer-term treasuries. The national average for a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage hit 6.19 percent, according to Bankrate. Meanwhile, the U.S. dollar index, which measures the dollar against a basket of six leading foreign currencies, sank 0.8 percent as most U.S. assets sold off. Turning quickly to economic data, the ADP National Employment Report, Pulse, showed Tuesday the U.S.
4:48private employers added an average of 8 ,000 jobs per week for the four weeks ending December 27th. That was down from the prior week's reading of 11 ,250 jobs added, but showed the labor market was still in good shape as of the end of 2025. Overseas, China's fourth-quarter domestic product, or GDP, came in at just 4.5 percent on Monday, according to the country's National Bureau of Statistics. It was the slowest pace of growth seen in China in nearly three years. China's retail sales also missed estimates in December, rising just 0.9 % year-over-year. And for the full year, fixed asset investment, which includes real estate, contracted 3.8%.
5:32Looking further ahead, investors' attention will shift to U.S. GDP and inflation later this week, while the Federal Reserve's January meeting will be the highlight next week. Another rate cut seems unlikely at the moment. Futures priced in just 5 % odds of a Fed rate cut next week as of Tuesday afternoon, according to the CME FedWatch tool. The chance of a March rate cut, however, rose slightly to 21.5%. Based on recent Fed commentary, elevated inflation, and a labor market that isn't substantially falling apart, we would be shocked if they cut next week, Howard said. We believe they will cut one to two times this year at a slow and methodical pace.
6:15As far as individual market movers and notable earnings releases on Tuesday, 3M stock slid nearly 7 percent despite topping consensus earnings and revenue forecasts. The diversified industrial company, which is known for its safety gear as well as consumer brands like Post-it, was at least partially a victim of the broader market sell-off. However, it also reported weak demand in its consumer segment, with fourth-quarter sales falling 1.2 % year-over-year, and its 2026 adjusted earnings-per-share guidance coming in slightly below Wall Street's forecasts. The software firm turned Bitcoin treasury company strategy also saw its shares sink almost 8 % on Tuesday, as investors spooked by rising geopolitical tensions moved away from Bitcoin to traditional safe-haven assets like precious metals.
7:05On the other side of the ledger, shares of SanDisk continue to surge despite a broader tech sell-off. Investors have flocked to the computer hardware company, predicting that the AI and data center boom will continue to provide demand for its computer memory solutions. By the close, the stock had gained roughly 9.5%. DR Horton's stock slipped almost 1.8 percent even as the company topped Wall Street's consensus earnings and revenue forecasts, although gross margins shrank to 11.6 percent from 14.6 percent a year ago. The homebuilder also warned that it expects home sales gross margins to shrink sequentially due to higher incentives offered to buyers.
7:46Netflix dropped more than four percent after the company reported slightly better than expected fourth quarter earnings and revenue, but said first-quarter results were likely to fall short of estimates. And United Airlines announced fourth-quarter earnings that easily topped analyst estimates, while revenues was in line with expectations. Shares of the airline were roughly 2 % higher in post-market activity. From a sector perspective, information technology led the market's slide on Tuesday as long-dated Treasury yields rose. The energy sector, which has surged since last April amid rising AI data center power demand, led the pack.
8:22Mostly defensive sectors, including utilities and health care, also outperformed as investors took a risk-off approach amid Greenland-related tariff tensions.
8:34The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 870.74 points Tuesday, or 1.76%, to 48 ,488.59. The S &P 500 index dropped 143.15 points or 2.06 % to 6 ,796.86. And the Nasdaq Composite shed 561.07 points or 2.39 % to 22 ,954.32. This has been the Schwab Market Update podcast. To stay informed, visit www.schwab.com slash market update or follow us for free in your favorite podcasting app. And if you like what you've heard, please consider leaving us a rating or a review. It really helps new listeners find the show. Join us for another update tomorrow.
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From the publisher
Strong earnings haven't been able to buoy U.S. stocks with investors rattled by tariff rhetoric amid President Trump's push to acquire Greenland. Johnson & Johnson on deck today.
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