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Schwab Market Update Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Tariff Drama, Upcoming Nvidia Earnings In-Focus Date: February 23 Host: Keith Lansford
Overview This episode discusses the impact of recent economic data and significant political decisions on the market, particularly focusing on the Supreme Court's recent ruling on tariffs and anticipated earnings from Nvidia.
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Key Highlights
Economic Reports
- GDP and Inflation Data:
- A weak GDP report showed 1.4% growth, significantly below the expected 3%, down from 4.4% in the previous quarter.
- The Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) price index rose 0.4% month-over-month, surpassing expectations and indicating rising inflation.
- Year-over-year PCE growth reached 2.9%, above the Federal Reserve's target of 2%.
Supreme Court Ruling on Tariffs
- The Supreme Court's decision to overturn former President Trump's tariffs has broad implications, although it does not eliminate all tariffs.
- The administration is expected to pursue alternative methods for imposing trade restrictions, including emergency provisions for temporary tariffs.
- Michael Townsend, Managing Director of Legislative and Regulatory Affairs at Schwab, noted the administration's potential Plan B, including implementation of 10% global tariffs.
Market Reactions
- Wall Street initially faced losses due to poor economic data but rebounded following the tariff ruling.
- The market responded positively, with major indexes ending higher, led by sectors such as communications services, consumer discretionary, and information technology.
Upcoming Earnings and Market Focus
- Nvidia's Earnings Report: Anticipated to influence AI-related stocks and the tech sector; earnings will be released Wednesday afternoon.
- Other major earnings include Home Depot, Lowe's, and Salesforce. Market sentiment may hinge on these results amid rising competition in the software sector.
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Key Concepts
Stagflation
- Defined as a combination of slow economic growth and high inflation, creating challenges for the Federal Reserve as it seeks to maintain stable prices while maximizing employment.
Federal Reserve's Interest Rate Outlook
- The recent PCE and GDP data have reduced expectations for an immediate rate cut, with only a 4% chance for the next month.
- Over 50% believe that rates may be cut by June, but many Fed policymakers are inclined to wait for more definitive signs of disinflation.
Geopolitical Tensions
- Rising tensions, particularly with Iran, have driven crude oil prices to six-month highs, adding to market volatility.
Private Credit Market Concerns
- Issues in the private credit sector were highlighted by Blue Owl Capital's significant asset sell-off, impacting other asset management firms.
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Market Performance Summary
- Dow Jones Industrial Average: +0.47%
- S&P 500 Index: +0.69%
- Nasdaq Composite: +0.90%
- Positive performance from key sectors, despite concerns over economic indicators and private credit issues.
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Closing Thoughts
- The episode emphasizes the intertwined nature of economic data, federal policy, and geopolitical events in shaping market dynamics. Investors are encouraged to monitor upcoming earnings reports and Fed communications for clearer guidance on future market trends.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTariff Overturn and Market Impact
0:45 to 2:14
Discuss the implications of the Supreme Court's tariff decision on markets and investors.
“Despite Friday's bearish data punch, Wall Street's early losses turned to gains on the Supreme Court's decision.”
Economic Indicators and Inflation Trends
2:14 to 4:08
Examine recent economic data, including PCE inflation and GDP growth, and their impact on the economy.
“Not great news on either the inflation data or GDP for the bulls, said Nathan Peterson, director of derivatives research and strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.”
Federal Reserve's Monetary Policy Outlook
4:08 to 6:04
Explore the Fed's stance on interest rates in light of recent economic indicators.
“Investors will be closely watching this Friday's Producer Price Index, or PPI, data for more insights into the trajectory of inflation.”
Geopolitical Tensions and Market Reactions
6:04 to 7:40
Analyze the effects of rising geopolitical tensions on oil prices and market stability.
“Investors could gain more insights into the Fed's policy stance this week, with six leading Fed officials set to offer public comments.”
Corporate Earnings and Market Performance
7:40 to 9:52
Discuss upcoming corporate earnings, focusing on NVIDIA and its potential market influence.
“Data rolled on later Friday with February's final reading on consumer sentiment from the University of Michigan coming in at 56.6, below the preliminary reading of 57.3 and historically weak.”
Market Summary and Closing Thoughts
9:52 to 11:55
Recap the week's market performance and key indexes, providing insights for investors.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Welcome to the Schwab Market Update Podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Keith Lansford, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Monday, February 23rd. After a pivotal Friday that included the Supreme Court overturning President Trump's tariffs, slower-than-expected economic growth, and hotter inflation data, investors face a Keystone earnings report as NVIDIA opens its books Wednesday afternoon. Trading might be sluggish ahead of NVIDIA's release, which typically helps set the direction for AI-related stocks and the broader tech sector.
0:50Despite Friday's bearish data punch, Wall Street's early losses turned to gains on the Supreme Court's decision. However, it's worth noting that the decision had been expected. It doesn't end all tariffs, and the administration is already attempting to use other methods to impose trade restrictions. This is a big blow to the president's signature economic policy, no question, but there are other mechanisms available to the president to impose tariffs. The administration has said that it has a Plan B, said Michael Townsend, Managing Director of Legislative and Regulatory Affairs at Schwab. Townsend noted that there is an emergency provision that allows the imposition of 15 % tariffs for 150 days.
1:34If nothing else, that will buy the administration some time, he said. President Trump was quick to take advantage of this provision Friday afternoon, saying he would sign an executive order implementing 10 percent global tariffs. The administration could also seek to impose tariffs through other, more traditional means in the year ahead. Outside of Washington, recent economic data and corporate earnings have largely disappointed bullish investors. From Walmart setting its sales expectations below analysts' consensus to signs of more pain in the housing market, it's been a relatively rough ride of late.
2:14That continued early Friday when investors received a double whammy of higher personal consumption expenditures, or PCE inflation, and slower gross domestic product, or GDP data, that sent unwelcome stagflationary signals. Stagflation refers to an economy in which prices rise even as economic growth withers, putting the Federal Reserve in a pinch as it attempts to balance the two sides of its dual mandate, stable prices and maximum employment. Not great news on either the inflation data or GDP for the bulls, said Nathan Peterson, director of derivatives research and strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.
2:54December's Personal Consumption Expenditures, or PCE, price index rose 0.4 % month-over-month, above the consensus of 0.3 % and November's 0.2%. Core PCE, which excludes food and energy prices, also rose 0.4 % in line with consensus and above the 0.2 % November level. Year-over-year headline PCE growth was 2.9%, well above the Fed's 2 % target and up from 2.8 % in November, while core annual growth reached 3%. Consensus expected 2.8 % for headline PCE and 3 % for core. The main culprit of the inflation jump appeared to be goods prices, which rose 0.4 % month-over-month in December from 0.1 % in November.
3:44In one positive result, personal spending also rose 0.4 % month-over-month in the final month of last year, a sign that consumers continued opening their wallets. The relatively hot PCE data wasn't a complete surprise, as earlier producer prices data revealed rising prices for some elements that typically pull through to PCE, the Fed's favorite inflation report. Investors will be closely watching this Friday's Producer Price Index, or PPI, data for more insights into the trajectory of inflation. It's worth noting that there have been mixed inflation signals in recent reports. The January Consumer Price Index, or CPI, for example, climbed just 2.4 percent.
4:27However, it is compiled using different metrics, giving a higher weighting to housing. With economic growth still likely growing at or above trend and inflationary pressures still present, we expect the Fed to remain on hold until we see more persistent signs of disinflation, said Colin Martin, head of fixed income research and strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. The government's first estimate of fourth quarter GDP, meanwhile, landed at just 1.4 percent on Friday, down from 4.4 percent the prior quarter. Wall Street had expected 3 percent. Details under the GDP hood showed solid business investment, positive consumption, though slower relative to the third quarter, and a significant pullback in government spending, said Kevin Gordon, head of macro research and strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.
5:21After the combination of PCE and GDP, chances of a Fed rate cut next month stood at just 4 percent as of late Friday, according to the CME FedWatch tool. The odds that rates will have been cut at least once by June were over 50%, however. Still, a large contingent of policymakers seem willing to wait for inflation to ease before considering further rate cuts, minutes from the last Federal Open Market Committee revealed last week. The warmer-than-expected PCE data is not great for getting clarity around the Fed's next move, especially in light of the relatively hawkish Fed minutes showing that a few members wanted to hike rates, Peterson said.
6:02This will likely cloud the monetary policy trajectory, especially with a new Fed chair coming on board. Investors could gain more insights into the Fed's policy stance this week, with six leading Fed officials set to offer public comments. Adding to the complex economic picture, rising geopolitical tensions sent crude oil prices to six-month highs last week. As the weekend approached, media reports said the U.S. appeared ready to take military action against Iran, though timing is unclear and negotiations apparently continued as of late Friday. Back in June, when the U.S. bombed Iranian nuclear sites, crude oil jumped to nearly$80 a barrel.
6:48Concerns about private credit were another source of market pressure last week that could linger. Blue Owl Capital dropped 6 % Thursday after it said it was selling$1.4 billion in assets from credit funds so it can return capital and pay down debt, while permanently halting redemptions at one of its funds, Reuters reported. Shares of other asset management firms, including Blackstone and Aries Management, also fell on the news. Private credit concerns are making headlines, but the public markets are generally holding up well, Martin said. High-yield bonds have generally delivered positive returns this year, and their spreads remain low, suggesting there's not too much stress in the markets yet.
7:31Still, given private credit's recent reported issues, Martin believes the sector's investors should be cognizant of their relative illiquidity and redemption limits. Data rolled on later Friday with February's final reading on consumer sentiment from the University of Michigan coming in at 56.6, below the preliminary reading of 57.3 and historically weak. Investors will get another read on consumer sentiment tomorrow from the Conference Board. New home sales for December were a strong point last week, however, coming in at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 745 ,000, well ahead of the briefing.com consensus for 714 ,000.
8:15Still, new home sales declined 1.4 % from November, and pending home sales tumbled to all-time lows last Thursday. Looking ahead, this week's highlight is likely NVIDIA's earnings due Wednesday after the close. Margins might come under scrutiny as NVIDIA, like other chip players, faces elevated high bandwidth memory costs. Retail sector earnings will also be in focus, with Home Depot reporting tomorrow morning and Lowe's reporting on Wednesday morning. Salesforce's earnings will draw attention Wednesday after the bell. The software giant's results arrive during dark times for the sector amid AI competition concerns.
8:58Guidance could help set the tone for software stocks, and any weakness in the outlook might exacerbate bearish sentiment for the sector. Capping off the week, Berkshire Hathaway is set to report earnings on Saturday. Other notable economic reports this week include December's factory orders data due at 10 a.m. ET today and construction spending due Friday morning. Reviewing last Friday's market action, all three major market indexes ended the day higher, with 8 of 11 S &P 500 sectors rising. The communications services, consumer discretionary, and information technology sectors led the pack as investors took a risk-on approach following the Supreme Court's ruling against the Trump administration's tariffs.
9:43Meanwhile, energy, healthcare, and consumer staples lagged on the day. In individual trading, Grail plunged 50.55 % after saying its multi-cancer screening test, Galeri, didn't lead to a statistically significant reduction in stage 3 and 4 cancer in a large trial, Barron's reported. Akamai Technologies slid 14.07 percent after the cybersecurity and cloud companies saw its net income decline and posted weak guidance in its latest quarter despite higher revenue. Open Door Technologies rocketed 7.53 % after the online home-buying platform reported quarterly revenue above Wall Street's consensus, and Corning surged 7.37 % after the specialized glass and ceramics makers secured a multi-year$6 billion deal with Meta to supply advanced optical fiber and connectivity solutions for data centers.
10:44The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 230.81 points Friday, or 0.47%, to 49 ,625.97. The S &P 500 Index advanced 47.62 points, or 0.69%, to 6 ,909.51. and the Nasdaq Composite jumped 203.34 points or 0.90 % to 22 ,886.07. For the week, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.47%, the S &P 500 advanced 0.75%, and the Nasdaq Composite jumped 0.23%. This has been the Schwab Market Update Podcast. To stay informed, visit www.schwab.com slash market update or follow us for free in your favorite podcasting app. And if you like what you've heard, please consider leaving us a rating or a review. It really helps new listeners find the show.
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A weak GDP report and hot inflation data were overshadowed by the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Trump's tariffs Friday. Nvidia earnings, Fed speakers are in-focus this week.
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