The Killing of the Gaza Chef

28 Aug 2026 · 49 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Search Engine episode featuring Tim Howard discussing Die Zeit’s investigation “The Gaza Chef,” about the killing of Palestinian soup-kitchen founder Mahmoud al-Madun (also spelled al-Madun/Al-Madun) in Gaza and whether his humanitarian work made him a target.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  • Tim Howard: former editor of Reply All; edited a Die Zeit series on Gaza.
  • Yassin Musharbash: Die Zeit reporter with 25 years covering the Middle East; expert on Islamist terrorism; reported and narrated The Gaza Chef.

Key claims

  • Rumors of malnutrition in Gaza led Musharbash to Mahmoud, who spoke openly about aid bottlenecks and black-market food access.
  • Mahmoud repeatedly delivered food to Kamal Adwan Hospital, becoming highly visible as a humanitarian figure.
  • Hani (Mahmoud’s brother in the US) shared soup-kitchen/hospital coordinates with Israeli and international channels (including KOGAT) to reduce bombing risk; Musharbash suggests the IDF may have killed Mahmoud deliberately.
  • IDF denies/does not confirm a strike at the provided time/coordinates.

Notable examples

  • Kamal Adwan Hospital siege and IDF detentions; Mahmoud bringing supplies via a cart under surveillance drones.
  • A makeshift school and first-aid point run by the soup kitchen.
  • Mahmoud’s death after agreeing to flee with family; he was killed within steps of leaving home.

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Chapters

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Investigation into Gaza Chef's Death

2:26 to 2:55

Explore the mysterious death of chef Mahmoud Al-Madun in Gaza.

Investigation into Gaza Chef's Death

4:15 to 8:24

Explore the mysterious death of chef Mahmoud Al-Madun in Gaza.

“Like, I guess the first thing is just like, give me the origin story of this series existing.”

The Complexity of Reporting in Gaza

8:24 to 9:28

Understand the challenges of reporting on sensitive issues in conflict zones.

“And there are some real questions about what exactly happened with him that are pretty strange and pretty mysterious.”

The Complexity of Reporting in Gaza

9:39 to 10:43

Understand the challenges of reporting on sensitive issues in conflict zones.

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The Complexity of Reporting in Gaza

11:46 to 12:00

Understand the challenges of reporting on sensitive issues in conflict zones.

Yassin's Investigation into Mahmoud Al-Madun

12:00 to 14:01

Follow Yassin Musharbash's investigation into the circumstances surrounding Mahmoud's death.

“with all these promotional popcorn buckets?”

The Conflict and the Kamal Adwan Hospital

14:01 to 17:06

Learn about the situation surrounding Israeli claims and the strategic significance of Kamal Adwan Hospital.

“and there were doctors and there were patients and all the patients were civilians.”

Mahmoud's Early Life and Challenges

17:38 to 20:38

Explore Mahmoud's upbringing, his relationship with education, and his early entrepreneurial ventures.

“That's an NGO that supports the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees.”

Turning Point: Mahmoud's Struggles with Addiction

20:39 to 22:32

Discover Mahmoud's battles with addiction and his rediscovery of cooking as a passion.

“And it was bad because he would be sitting with a bunch of guys in his house, and he's like, he's there, but he's just some other place.”

The Impact of the War on Mahmoud's Life

22:33 to 24:41

Understand the profound effects of the war on Mahmoud's life and his family's fears for his safety.

“And at the end of the month, the Israeli ground offensive begins in the north of the Gaza Strip.”
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The Birth of the Soup Kitchen

24:42 to 28:00

Learn how Mahmoud transformed his situation into a community soup kitchen during the famine.

“It's a horrifying prospect, and the uncertainty lasts for 20 hours.”

Mahmoud's Life in Beit Lahya

28:00 to 29:15

Learn how Mahmoud juggles cooking and humanitarian efforts amidst conflict.

“School, please don't bomb, in English and Hebrew.”

Making Mahmoud Visible

29:15 to 30:56

Explore Hani's efforts to protect Mahmoud by increasing visibility of his soup kitchen.

“a place that hundreds of people come to every day.”

Mahmoud's Voice in the Media

30:56 to 32:01

Understand how Mahmoud's opinion piece raised awareness of the humanitarian crisis.

“In some of these interviews, I wanted to scream.”

Contacting Authorities for Safety

32:01 to 34:30

Learn about Hani's attempts to inform the Israeli army of the soup kitchen's location.

“Or is it a completely mad idea to inform the Israeli army about the Gaza soup kitchen?”

The Dangers of Staying

34:30 to 35:49

Discover the risks faced by Mahmoud and his family as fighting escalates.

“We have nothing to hide and Mahmoud poses no threat.”

Transitioning to Delivering Aid

35:49 to 37:38

Learn how Mahmoud adapts his operations to continue feeding those in need.

“I also spoke by phone with Mahmoud's sister, Fatin, who'd worked in the soup kitchen with Mahmoud from the very beginning.”

The Assault on Kamal Adwan Hospital

37:38 to 39:02

Understand the chaotic situation at the hospital during the Israeli military assault.

“Among them are relatives of medical staff, families of patients, but also ordinary residents of Beit Lahiyah, who all hope they will be safer there.”

Mahmoud's Lifeline to the Hospital

39:02 to 41:24

Explore how Mahmoud becomes essential for the hospital's survival amid destruction.

“There's a video showing Mahmoud and two colleagues from the Gaza soup kitchen during this period pushing a squeaking metal car through the ruins of Beit Lahya towards Kamal Adwan Hospital.”

Dr. Hossam's Struggles

41:24 to 42:06

Learn about Dr. Hossam's challenges and abduction during the ongoing conflict.

“You can hear it, for example, in this audio message that Hani shared with me, in which Mahmoud praises the doctor to donors in the United States.”

The Plight of Dr. Abu Safiyah

42:06 to 46:27

Learn about the challenges faced by Dr. Abu Safiyah amid allegations and conflict.

“I'm speaking to you from inside the intensive care unit after there has been a development in my condition.”

Mahmoud's Determination Amidst Chaos

46:27 to 49:56

Explore Mahmoud's unwavering commitment to his humanitarian work despite danger.

“to my experience and without knowing really his file but if he is really was detained twice and was released after a few hours look we don't arrest people to release them and then to shoot missiles on them.”

Tragic Turn of Events

49:56 to 51:54

Discover the personal experiences that ultimately influence Mahmoud's fate.

“Allah should get breakfast ready in the meantime and make tea.”

The Unanswered Questions

51:54 to 52:30

Understand the ambiguity surrounding Mahmoud's death and the IDF's response.

“And all they said was, Like we said, the IDF is unaware of a strike in the coordinates and time provided.”

The Unanswered Questions

54:20 to 54:57

Understand the ambiguity surrounding Mahmoud's death and the IDF's response.

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The Unanswered Questions

55:01 to 56:00

Understand the ambiguity surrounding Mahmoud's death and the IDF's response.

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2:54Hello, hello. Hello. Good to see you. Good to see you. How's it going over there in New York? It's going well. It's like, you know, the part of summer where you remember that you forgot to go outside all summer. And the two things I need to do before summer's over is like go to the beach and eat some fresh tomatoes. And I did both this week. That's awesome. That's nice.

3:23This is my dear old colleague, Tim Howard, a person who does not need to be reminded about the importance of a good summer vacation. It's practically his religion. A sometime activist for the National Four-Day Workweek and a full-time radio genius. I worked with Tim for many years at a previous show called Reply All. He was the show's editor. Tim was the person who gave Reply All its signature weirdness, who built stories that ran on an engine of absurdity and adventure. When I think about episodes I loved from that old show, like Boy in Photo or Long Distance, I see Tim's bong-hit sense of adventure plastered all over them.

3:59But we were talking this week because over the summer, I'd been listening to a new series that he'd edited, which had captivated my attention. It was for the big German newspaper where Tim works now, Die Zeit. The series was an investigation into a mysterious death in Gaza. So I wanted to talk to you about your series. Like, I guess the first thing is just like, give me the origin story of this series existing. Yeah, totally. So it's reported by a really excellent reporter named Yassin Musharabash, who I met like a week before I started at Dietzite. A friend of mine who also works here invited me to lunch with two of his colleagues, Britta and Yassin.

4:37And Britta tells me about a podcast that she's working on. And I was like, ah, that kind of reminds me a little bit of like John le Carré, great spy novelist. And Yassin was like, well, you know, I knew John le Carré. I was like, what? And he was like, not only did I know John le Carré, I worked with John le Carré. And I'm like, where did I land? What is going on here? In what capacity? Well, Yassine has been reporting on the Middle East for like 25 years. And he is an expert on a lot of things Middle East. And he's also an expert on Islamist terrorism. And at one point, John le Carré reached out to him and was like, I'm looking for somebody who can help me with the novels I'm working on.

5:27Basically, I need somebody who is an expert on Islamist terrorism in Europe. And so Yassine starts like working with him. And I guess they had a pretty good and active working relationship to the extent that when John le Carré died, Yassine even spoke at his funeral. Wow. Yeah, and then like a minute later, Yasin was like, yeah, and I think you're going to be editing my podcast. I was like, oh, okay, cool. It's great. And he told me about this story that he had already started reporting. This is the wonderful mind of Tim Howard, where every question provokes a story, which usually reminds him of another, even better story.

6:06It's a place that I very much enjoy hanging out. Anyway, Tim told me how Yassin had found himself curious about this one particular story, the one that had launched this investigation. That investigation would take them to some surprising places, some of them very dark. Starting in early 2024, Yassin and other colleagues at the site had been hearing these rumors of horrific malnutrition in Gaza and of children dying of malnutrition because not enough food was getting in. But it was also a really difficult thing to report because journalists are not allowed to go to Gaza. So they start calling around, looking for people that they can talk to just to, like, report out this story about malnutrition.

6:48And the by far best source who Yassin meets in the process is this guy, Mahmoud Ahmadun, who is the head of a soup kitchen in the north of Gaza in a place called Beit Lahia. So he reaches out and Mahmoud is totally willing to talk to him. And Yasin was also really just surprised that Mahmoud spoke really openly about everything that was happening in a way that is not what he was used to have happening with other people there, with doctors, with nurses, with ordinary people living in Gaza. What do you mean, like, because I imagine there's a lot of people would be open about it. How is his openness different?

7:26Primarily about Hamas. He was willing to talk critically about what was happening with the aid deliveries that were coming to Gaza that were supposed to be going directly to people. He spoke very openly about the black market there, which meant like food was coming in, but you could only get it if you had a lot of money. And the average people didn't have money, which is part of the reason there's so much malnutrition. And Yassin stays in touch with Mahmoud as the situation in Gaza gets way, way worse. more bombings, way more people dying, people fleeing. And then Mahmoud dies. And Yassin doesn't know how he's killed.

8:03There's no eyewitnesses. He has nobody who can tell him what happened. All he's able to get his hands on, after a lot of calling around, is a video of Mahmoud's corpse. And Yassin, he wanted to basically know, could he solve this? Why exactly was Mahmoud killed? And that is what the podcast is. It's this attempt to solve this mystery through this tiny little keyhole. Yeah, what I, it felt to me both morally and formally audacious to say, if a true crime story treats the fact of someone's death as a really important thing that needs to be understood, this was a true crime story asking why and how someone had died in a place where people are being killed all the time.

8:49And there are some real questions about what exactly happened with him that are pretty strange and pretty mysterious. And I enjoy that the story is asking them. And then I enjoyed that the story begins to answer them. And the answers are not what I would have expected. That's how I felt, too. And I ended up learning a lot more about Mahmoud as a person. But I also ended up learning about the circumstances of his death way more than you would think you could at the very beginning. and it ends up being basically a tracer fluid on the way that the war is conducted by the IDF. Tim, thank you for coming to share this story.

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12:39Welcome back to the show. So reporter Yassin Musharbish wanted to know why a Palestinian chef named Mahmoud Al-Madun had been killed. Specifically, whether his work trying to get food to starving Palestinians had made him a target. So Yassin started making phone calls. He spoke to members of Mahmoud's family who said, look, you need to specifically examine Mahmoud's connection to the local hospital. So Yassin did. and everything he found, that actually comprises episode two of his series, The Gaza Chef, which is what we're going to play for you now. I'll let Yassin take it from here. In the fall of 2023, as the Israeli offensive begins, there are 36 hospitals in the Gaza Strip.

13:24But in a way, each of these hospitals exists twice. Once, as most Palestinians see it, a place where they bring injured relatives. And once, as the Israeli intelligence services viewed, is a place from which danger emanates because terrorists use it for their purposes. In fact, this is one of the most contested questions in this war. I know many ordinary Palestinians who say these accusations are nonsense. I have never seen anything like that.

14:00The hospital was working normally, and there were doctors and there were patients and all the patients were civilians. And among them are people I find credible. On the other hand, take this Israeli guy I know, for instance, who worked for the security services for ages. He and I had a fairly heated discussion about this subject, not least because I pointed out to him that the Israeli evidence was sometimes rather thin and that even reputable media outlets had voiced suspicions that some of it may have been manipulated. How am I supposed to deal with that? I asked him. He replied, somewhat irritated by my questions, Yassin, we see so much that you do not see.

14:45What he meant was that he was absolutely certain there were secret meeting points for Hamas commanders inside these hospitals. That there were routes nobody knew about through which weapons were brought in and back out again. He didn't care whether Hamas or anybody else denied all of it. He was convinced it was true. This is why hospitals are under such scrutiny from the IDF in this war. A case in point is the Kamal Adwan Hospital, which is located right in Mahmoud's neighborhood, a maybe seven or eight minute walk away from the house where he was last living. Kamal Adwan Hospital, located in northern Gaza, has for a long period of time been a part of Hamas' strategy and used as a major terrorist stronghold.

15:35The war had only just begun when, in statements like this, the Israeli army declared Kamal Adwan Hospital a Hamas terrorist stronghold. What followed was a months-long confrontation around this hospital, which grew ever more violent. The World Health Organization is supporting this hospital to resume services after the attack that it has sustained back in the 22nd of May. There are clashes between the IDF and Palestinian militants in the vicinity of the hospital. The IDF says weapons were discovered nearby. There are airstrikes, and on several occasions, the army even enters the hospital and detains staff, including the director, whom it will later accuse of being a Hamas operative.

16:22We saw Israeli troops at the gate. They went to the surgery department. In the autumn of 2024, this escalation reaches its peak. And here is something I genuinely had not expected. Of all places, it is here that Mahmoud, the chef of the soup kitchen, keeps showing up. Right up until shortly before his death. And I wanted to know why.

16:59My name is Yasin Musharwas and you are listening to The Gaza Chef.

17:07Episode 2, Sky and Flames.

17:20So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Washington, D.C. In the summer of 2025, I flew to Washington, D.C. to visit Hani, Mahmoud's older brother, who's been living in the United States for 25 years and is the only member of Mahmoud's family I was able to meet in person because the others are all in the Gaza Strip. Hani works for UNRWA USA. That's an NGO that supports the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees. And on a very hot and extremely humid day, we met at a Korean restaurant. It's a good place, huh? Perfect. Hani's a rather quiet man in his mid-40s. Serious, but kind. We took a seat outside on the terrace.

18:05Okay, so this should be recording now. Brilliant. Yeah, so, yeah, let's talk. I like your T-shirt. You're wearing a T-shirt of the Gaza Souk. In honor of your... Of course, yes. Hani was wearing the T-shirt in honor of his brother Mahmood. Mahmoud was younger than you by how many years? Easily 10 years, 11 years. 11 years, you're a junior. Yeah. Okay. And when he was born, you guys lived where exactly? So Mahmoud was born in Gaza immediately after we left the Emirates. Hani told me that his parents, he himself, and eight of his siblings had lived in the United Arab Emirates until 1990, where his father worked as a teacher.

18:49When the older daughters were old enough to think about marriage, the family returned. So all of us went back to Gaza. Mahmoud was born there. He's the baby. And so Mahmoud, the youngest, was the only child born in the Gaza Strip. After they returned to Gaza, Hani told me, the family were actually doing quite well. His father continued working as an English teacher and also ran a shop, selling kitchen appliances and household items on the side. In Beit Lahya, that placed them in the upper middle class. The children attended the local public school. And Mahmoud, after he grew up a little bit, would have gone to a public school as well?

19:26Yeah, but Mahmoud is unique in our family because he hated school. He would run away from kindergarten. He was so radical in not liking school. And I would literally remember dragging him from his bed to go to the kindergarten, and he wouldn't. He wouldn't go. Mahmoud, Hani says, always had a way of doing only what he wanted to do. As a child and teenager, Mahmoud was a bit of a slacker, a chiller. Not only did he dislike school, he constantly brought new friends home, people he had just picked up somewhere, which his parents did not approve of. And my family will get upset with them because he's too hospitable with the wrong people.

20:07They worried about the family's reputation. My parents were like, ah, this is not good. You should only invite people who add value to your life. These guys are not it. But as for trying to get ahead in life, that was not a priority for Mahmoud. He left school after just nine years. When he was 18, he got married, even though his own mother thought him far too immature for it. And yet, for a moment, it looked as though things might be going reasonably well. Mahmoud went on to open a mobile phone shop, and it actually was rather successful. But then came a setback. Mahmoud became dependent on painkillers.

21:08And it was bad because he would be sitting with a bunch of guys in his house, and he's like, he's there, but he's just some other place. And that's just for the family. Like, what the hell? These people are strangers? Your wife is across the other room? Like, what's going on? It was only when the family stepped in and staged an intervention that Mahmoud managed to overcome this phase. What helped him in the process was a new passion he developed. Cooking. And he really went to cooking as a way to distract himself. Yeah, he, it was, you could tell he is like zoning out when he's cooking. He's in there, just in the kitchen.

21:53It's him, often lounging in his boxers, just hanging out and cooking food. He even asked around at local restaurants about cooking techniques and special spices. and Hani told me what mattered most to him was that everyone would gather on Friday afternoons to eat together at his place. He's the guy, he's the chef. He roasts the chicken and the oven, he seasons the rice and just really takes, it's like an art. If it had been up to Mahmoud, life might simply have carried on like that. He had no grand designs. But then... Today, Israel battled to repel a surprise invasion of its territory. On October 7th, 2023, Hamas attacks Israel.

22:37And at the end of the month, the Israeli ground offensive begins in the north of the Gaza Strip. And everything changes in an instant. Hani is sitting in Washington, almost 10 ,000 kilometers away, consuming every bit of news he can find, trying to stay in touch with his relatives. And for his younger brother, his entire world collapses.

23:05Mahmoud's phone shop, located in the center of Beit Lahya, is completely destroyed by a tank. Ali can salvage his laptop in a few chairs. Overnight, Mahmoud is unemployed, with no income at all.

23:22For Hani, it is all so far away and yet unimaginably real. In December 2023, with the war only a few weeks old, Hani is scrolling through a Palestinian telegram channel he reads every morning. And he comes across a disturbing video from his hometown, Beit Lahir.

23:46In the video, hundreds of Palestinian men can be seen stripped down to their underwear, sitting in rows on the bare ground, heads bent between their knees. Beside them stand armed Israeli soldiers. The soldiers have rounded them up and detained them for questioning, searching among them for Hamas fighters. I look and they're like, damn, this looks like Mahmoud. What were your emotions when you saw your brother on that video? Well, there was confusion that day because there had been other groups that released a Palestinian blindfolded and put in over a ditch. So we did not want to end up in a situation like that.

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24:23There are all sorts of rumors swirling around about terrible things happening to detainees. things Hani can't verify, but which terrify him. What if Mahmoud disappears? What if he ends up in a secret prison? And I just did not want my brother to be gone for, you know, for no reason. It's a horrifying prospect, and the uncertainty lasts for 20 hours. Then the Israeli soldiers release Mahmoud. But Hani knows that this could happen again to his brother at any moment, and that the next time it could end up far worse. And while Hani is still trying to figure out how to protect his younger brother, something happens that will complicate everything even further.

25:10At the end of 2023, as Israel all but cuts off the flow of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip and reports of hunger multiply, acquaintances approach Hani and they hand him a cash donation. I call up Mahmoud and say, hey, Mahmoud, I have$2 ,000. What can we do with them? He said, hey, there is a guy in Jabalia market. He still cooks rice. Let me go buy some rice wraps from them. So he bought like 50 of them and just gave them away to the neighbors. This guy had rice. We go the next day, we buy more rice. So Mahmoud buys the rice and distributes it. But that only works until the third day, when the rice seller tells him, sorry.

25:48I don't have rice. That's it. We're like, shit, what do we do? Because on the fourth day, people are once again standing at Mahmoud's door. They are hungry and they want something to eat. And then Mahmoud calls Hani and says, Hani, what do you think? I have an idea. He said, I'm going to cook. How are you going to do that, Hani asks. Cook in the middle of a famine. I'll manage, Mahmoud says. And he gets hold of a few large pots, tomato sauce, canned vegetables, potatoes, peas, really anything he can find. He throws it all into the pots and cooks. And that day, around 120 families eat Mahmoud's food.

26:27It's the birth of the soup kitchen. In Washington, D.C., it dawns on Hani that something is taking shape in Beit Lahya. And he responds. He starts fundraising in earnest now, launches a campaign, and sets up a GoFundMe account. So people start donating every day, like where is$1 ,000,$1 ,500, and we send the money to Mahmoud to cook. And the campaign proves far more successful than Hani and his fellow organizers had expected at the outset. I remember watching from Berlin in April 2024 as the GoFundMe page showed that more than$100 ,000 were raised in just four weeks. These donations make it possible for Mahmoud to secure ingredients.

27:10And they allow the soup kitchen to distribute the meals free of charge. Eventually we raise a million dollars. We're like, shit, this is a real deal. In their daily phone calls, it becomes apparent to Hani how his younger brother, the aimless slacker, is finding his own mission in the middle of a war, transforming into a man of action. He found his mojo. He found his zen because he felt needed and he was able to respond. The soup kitchen is the heart of it all. But whenever Hani has a suggestion for a new project to add, Mahmoud puts it into practice at once. For instance, when Hani asks him, Hey Mahmoud, can you build a school?

27:47He said, fuck yeah. And he builds a school in two weeks and delivers it. And it's amazing. 30 children receive lessons in this makeshift school. And on the roof, they put up a sign that reads, School, please don't bomb, in English and Hebrew. Next, the team sets up a medical first aid point, for which they even hire a doctor. And now Mahmoud is constantly on the move in Beit Lahya. You got the kitchen here. Yeah. The school here and the medical point here. Okay. So Mahmoud would be like going between the three while he's cooking. What do you need? Let me buy you diapers. What do you need? Let me get you some food.

28:28So he would cook for the school as well. In the spring of 2024, the surrounding hospitals begin asking for food for their patients and staff. And Mahmoud says, sure, of course, we'll help. It's a decision that will prove consequential. From that point on, Mahmoud regularly sets aside one or two pots of food and brings them to the hospitals, above all to Kamal Adwan Hospital. So he started getting food to the hospital, especially Kamal Adwan Hospital, because they had the kids, human aids for man-nourished or a few man-nourished kids. And you could walk from our kitchen about 10 minutes by before you get there.

29:03The Gaza soup kitchen quickly becomes a success story. But Hani in Washington knows that humanitarian workers in the Gaza Strip aren't safe. Many of them have already been killed. And now Mahmoud has created a magnet in the middle of a war zone, a place that hundreds of people come to every day. If you were to advise a civilian in Gaza, you would tell them, hide, don't draw attention to yourself, keep your head down, in the hope that this offers the greatest degree of safety. Mahmoud, of course, does the exact opposite. He makes himself visible. He stands out. And the longer Hani thinks about it, the clearer it becomes to him.

29:42There is only one thing he can do to help protect his brother. Make Mahmoud even more visible. Make Mahmoud and his soup kitchen as well known as possible. Internationally, ideally. His hope is that the Israeli army will think twice about where it bombs if there is a risk of hitting a prominent aid initiative. Hani al-Madun is Mahmoud's brother and based in the US. So Hani begins speaking to Western and international media about the soup kitchen. A lot of people failed the Palestinians, but the land did not. You know, he'd be cooking, whatever he can find. Is it enough? No. Hani says those interviews felt like walking a tightrope.

30:21He was raw, with grief at the scale of the destruction in Gaza, and furious. You wake up every day and somebody punches you in the face with all the horrible news. No, this person is dead. This person is killed. And you're like, it's a gallery of trauma. But he also knew that he had to restrain himself. I can't be shouting slogans and shit. I can't say like Israel is killing my people and they're committing war crimes. Instead, he had to look into the cameras and politely answer questions for uplifting stories about the soup kitchen. What does a hot meal mean to somebody? It means survival. It means somebody sees you.

30:55And that was not easy. In some of these interviews, I wanted to scream. But his campaign works. In April 2024, Hani manages to get an opinion piece by Mahmoud published in the Washington Post. In it, Mahmoud describes the famine in the north of the Ghada Strip. Over the past weeks, we have seen infants die of hunger, their bodies shrunken into skeletons and once thriving children reduced to skin and bone. He also speaks about a friend who was killed by a drone while trying to reach aid supplies dropped from an aircraft. Mahmoud describes his own role in simple terms, like this. I have nothing to do with the fighting in Gaza.

31:33I am a shopkeeper. But in the north of the Gaza Strip, at that point, no one sees Mahmoud as a shopkeeper. He's the face of the Gaza soup kitchen. And little by little, he becomes a local celebrity. He's even given a nickname, Asad Ashmal, Lion of the North. But is that enough? Hani has his doubts. Are there other ways to make him safe? Perhaps. Or is it a completely mad idea to inform the Israeli army about the Gaza soup kitchen?

32:10Hani decides to try exactly that. He takes the precise GPS coordinates of the soup kitchen, the first aid point, and the school, the three places between which Mahmoud moves, and sends them to people he believes may have an in with the IDF. With the idea that they would pass them on. Yeah, that's the point. There is a UN coordination office that we got in touch with. Hani informs one person who works on the National Security Council at the White House and another person who is involved in coordinating humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip for the United Nations. And finally, he turns to an institution called COGAD.

32:50COGAD stands for Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. COGAD is part of the Israeli Ministry of Defense. And in this war, it is tasked with coordinating the entry of humanitarian aid and making arrangements with aid organizations. So, okay, I need to get this. Sure. Was Koga ever made aware of the operations of the Gaza Suits? Oh, yeah. Yeah. A few times. When did it start? Who did it go through? So, I have an Israeli friend of mine here. He's a peace activist, a good human being. I've approached him and said, hey, here is the Kogat number. Can you get in touch with them and tell them who we are, what we're doing and where we're located?

33:38I have spoken to Hani's friend. He wishes to remain anonymous. So in this podcast, I will simply refer to him as Ron. And Ron told me that the entire time he was exchanging messages with Kogat, he never really knew who exactly he was talking to. staff members kept changing. But to him, it sounded as though the Kogat people were guiding him through some sort of accreditation process so that the soup kitchen might perhaps be formally recognized as an institution. So when Kogat wanted to know who exactly worked at the soup kitchen, how it was funded, and what equipment it had, Hani and Ron told them.

34:16So, the United Nations, the White House, Kogat. Three channels. If even one of them works in the way that Hani was hoping, then the IADF would know how to reach Mahmoud and where the soup kitchen and its offshoots are located. The message Hani is sending is clear. We have nothing to hide and Mahmoud poses no threat. Whether the Israelis believe him, he doesn't know. In October 2024, the war enters its second year and conditions in the north of the Gaza Strip are now becoming truly catastrophic. Israel is pounding northern Gaza. Its airstrikes described by the UN as relentless. Mahmoud and his family experienced the horrors at close quarters.

35:05For example, when the small makeshift school built by the soup kitchen team, whose coordinates they had given to Kogat, is hit. Fortunately, no one is injured.

35:20Allah, Mahmoud's wife, told me in several phone conversations that at the time she was pregnant and very scared. And that she said to Mahmoud, we have to flee. Let's get out of here.

35:37All right, Mahmoud replies, I'll organize a way out for you and the children. But Allah says, no, we only go together. I don't want to flee alone. But Mahmoud refuses to leave. And he carries on, even though work in the soup kitchen has by now become extremely dangerous. I also spoke by phone with Mahmoud's sister, Fatin, who'd worked in the soup kitchen with Mahmoud from the very beginning. She told me that there was constant shelling, that drones and helicopters were overhead while they cooked all the time. And then came the phone calls.

36:15The IDF spoke with me. Why are you still here in the north? Come on, go to the south. I said, I don't want to. They said, that's not up to you.

36:28This sounds crazy, but calls like these are not uncommon. They happen tens of thousands of times over. A special unit of Israeli military intelligence is responsible for them.

36:42Fatin says to Mahmoud, I'm afraid, let's go But he doesn't want to go He tells her, no one dies before their time Please stay with me, Mahmoud asks her He needs her in the soup kitchen And Fatin agrees, she keeps working Until the day that the Israeli army sends drones circling exactly over the kitchen and then drops stun grenades.

37:15Fatin says to him, how can we carry on when the whole sky is in flames? A short while later, Mahmoud too seems to accept if they continue letting those in need come to the soup kitchen, people will die. So from now on, they'll do differently. They will bring the food to where the people already are And that means to Kamala Dwan Hospital. Because by that point, hundreds of people, perhaps more than a thousand, are sheltering there. Among them are relatives of medical staff, families of patients, but also ordinary residents of Beit Lahiyah, who all hope they will be safer there. But they are not.

37:54At the beginning of October 2024, the Israeli army demands that the entire hospital be evacuated. because Hamas has allegedly re-established itself there. The acting director of the hospital refuses. In turn, on October 25th, 2024, the Israeli army forcibly enters the hospital complex. Those pictures that we are looking at there, that's Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza, which has of course been under siege for 21 days by the Israeli army. The assault unfolds chaotically. Soldiers enter the hospital and detain large numbers of people, mostly staff members, all alleged terror suspects. There are reports of bulldozers driving into the courtyard, flattening tents.

38:43A fire breaks out, and there are apparently fatalities as well. Then, after two days, the IDF withdraws. From that point on, there's a kind of control ring around the hospital. Surveillance drones buzz overhead. Tanks are sometimes positioned nearby. It is now even more dangerous to get in and out of the hospital.

39:11There's a video showing Mahmoud and two colleagues from the Gaza soup kitchen during this period pushing a squeaking metal car through the ruins of Beit Lahya towards Kamal Adwan Hospital.

39:30On either side are destroyed buildings. The cart is loaded with aid supplies. And even on the video, you can hear the humming of surveillance drones.

39:44We will keep going, just as we promised, Mahmoud says. When he reaches the hospital now, he sees the aftermath of the Israeli assault directly before him. Outside the entrance, a destroyed ambulance. rubble in the courtyard, inside cables hanging from the ceilings. Walls have collapsed completely or are blackened by fire. Along the corridors and passageways lie mattresses where displaced people are seeking shelter. And Hani told me that on every one of Mahmoud's visits to the hospital during this period, he meets Dr. Hossam Abu Safiyya, the acting director, usually in his office. He would be there by 9, 10, and he would call me Hani.

40:31Dr. Hassan needs this medicine or they need this. Dr. Abu Safiyyah tells them what they need most urgently in the hospital. And Hani helps from Washington to source it, and Mahmoud then delivers it. There are photographs showing Mahmoud handing over cleaning wipes, baby formula, clothes, and blankets. Sometimes he also distributes money to hospital staff who are no longer receiving salaries. Can we say that Mahmoud becomes a lifeline for these people in terms of... I mean, you could say that 10 times over. By this point, Mahmoud, the chef, is keeping the hospital alive. Nobody else is making credit for that.

41:08And Mahmoud and Dr. Abu Safiya develop a close relationship in this time. And Mahmoud and Dr. Khosrow Abu Safiya become besties. Whenever he needs something, he calls Mahmoud. It's quite clear that Mahmoud admires the doctor. You can hear it, for example, in this audio message that Hani shared with me, in which Mahmoud praises the doctor to donors in the United States. This video, doctor, the one I sent you, the man in front of you is Dr. Hossam Abu Safiya, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital. He's a man of integrity who has dedicated his entire life to serving his people. At the end of November 2024, Dr.

41:51Hossam Abu Safiyah is hit during an Israeli drone attack inside the hospital, wounded in the leg and the back. And three days later, he sends an appeal for help to the international community from inside the hospital. And it is Mahmoud who records this video for him.

42:13I'm speaking to you from inside the intensive care unit after there has been a development in my condition. Bleeding at the side of my wound. I will probably need a vascular surgeon and unfortunately we must now ask for what we had previously requested for our patients.

42:34The doctor survives, but only a month later the Israeli army again enters Kamal Adwan Hospital. Dr. Abu Safiyah is abducted by the IDF and taken to a military detention facility inside Israel. The pediatrician the IDF maintains holds a rank within Hamas and is alleged to be involved in potential terrorist activity. I asked Hani about these allegations. What do you have to say about the Israeli allegations against one, the Kamal Adwan Hospital? that it's a Hamas headquarter of sorts, or used to be, and be Dr. Abu Safiyyah personally. I don't really bother myself with Israel's sales. And this is from the heart.

43:17Like, we know Dr. Hussam is not a political guy. We know him very well. Hani told me that his family and the Abu Safiyyah family have known each other for a very long time. He's a neighbor of ours, and we had a business, and he used to be a customer. Him and his wife used to come and buy gifts. Wherever you go, you don't go empty-handed into people's houses. So they're always dropping by. He's a friend of the family and we like him and he's a hero. To Hani, Dr. Abu Safiyah is a hero. To the Israeli army, well, he's a doctor, okay, but at the same time, in their eyes, he's an active Hamas member.

43:56And Mahmoud? What about Mahmoud? What does the idea of actually see when they see Mahmoud? A humanitarian worker or a helper of Hamas? Hani says that notion is absurd. In our family, we have a personal animosity against them. Because when Hamas seized power in the Gaza Strip in 2007, it was one of their relatives who stood in the Islamists' way. The last standing person in their way is our cousin Samih al-Madhoun. This man was in fact a commander of the armed wing of Fatah, the party of Yasir Arafat And there is an old YouTube video showing him being dragged through the streets of Gaza before he's killed They grabbed him, they lynched him, they murdered him June 14, 2007 So Fahani then, the matter is clear He isn't Hamas and neither is Mahmoud Now, of course, it is practically impossible to prove that someone is not something.

45:00And that is especially difficult when trying to establish that from afar. Even so, I also do not believe Mahmoud belonged to Hamas. But I believe that on the basis of other indications, indications I consider stronger than what Hani told me. First of all, and for the record, I did, of course, ask all the relevant Israeli authorities whether they had ever suspected Mahmoud of being a Hamas man. I asked the IDF, the domestic intelligence agency, Shinbit, and Kogat, but they never answered the question. Not helpful, but all right. Then, however, I learned something significant. Namely this. Mahmoud was not detained by the IDF just once.

45:44No, he was detained a second time in 2024. And according to Hani, on that second occasion, Mahmoud behaved very differently from the first time around. In the second one, he mustered the carriage and told the officer, listen, my brother is American and he goes to the White House. And in fact, this time around, the soldiers let him go almost immediately. So once again, Mahmoud is rounded up and detained twice. And both times, he's released. I discussed this with Shalom Ben Hanan, an Israeli who served for 27 years in the domestic intelligence service Shin Bet, most recently as a department head.

46:22and he says to him this does not sound like the story of a hamas member my assessment and according to my experience and without knowing really his file but if he is really was detained twice and was released after a few hours look we don't arrest people to release them and then to shoot missiles on them. It's crazy. It's not logical. He was already arrested. If he had a file, that could cost him with a long arrest, you would send to prison. As simple as that. In other words, if the IDF had possessed information indicating that Mahmoud was a Hamas man, they would have held on to him. Even for targeted killing operations, if you have the option to arrest them, you will always prefer to arrest them.

47:21The detentions by the army, the stun grenades at the soup kitchen, then the siege of Kamal Adwan Hospital. It seems as though nothing could stop Mahmoud. Even as more and more people around him are killed, including a member of the soup kitchen team, he carries on. He carries on even after the Beit Lahya market square is turned into a makeshift cemetery. Mahmoud tells his brother, I feel as though I could be next.

47:52And even some of the people closest to him can't understand Mahmoud's determination. Abu Khalid, his brother-in-law, for instance, who I also spoke to by phone. I said to him, what is the point of this anymore? Why are you still doing this?

48:13But Mahmoud replied that he had to distribute vegetables and help the patients until his final breath.

48:22In the end, it is two very personal experiences that shake Mahmoud's resolve. First, on November 19th, 2024, his seventh child is born, his daughter Aileen. And then, a week later, his son Omar is wounded. Omar, a teenager, was helping a man carry his belongings in the street when the two of them came under fire. Omar is taken to a hospital, given blood transfusion. He undergoes eye surgery. He survives. It is only after this that Mahmoud makes his decision.

48:59That day, November 30, 2024, begins unusually early for Mahmoud and his wife, Allah. By six in the morning, both of them are already awake. And amid the inferno of Beit Lahya, they spend a few quiet hours together as Allah remembers it. We mostly listened to the news to see what might happen. There was talk about a possible ceasefire. Allah has been asking Mahmoud for some time to flee, together, all of them. And for the first time, Mahmoud agrees.

49:40All right, he says to Allah, we are going. You, me and the children. Before that though, he says, he has just one thing left to do. He's expecting a food delivery, he says, and wants to take it to the hospital. Allah should get breakfast ready in the meantime and make tea. Allah is relieved and nervous Sometime between 9.30 and 10 a.m. that morning Mahmoud leaves the house But he doesn't get far 20 or 30 steps perhaps And then he is struck by a projectile from the sky News of his brother's death reaches Hani in Washington at dawn And I felt my knees collapsed. I was like, no, no, no.

50:39And Hani wonders whether it was a mistake to contact Kogad and share Mahmoud's phone number and coordinates with them. Roughly 48 hours before Mahmoud's death, he and his friend Ron had sent data to Kogad one last time. Had the information been used to help kill Mahmoud? Hani doesn't know. And neither do I, because Koged didn't respond to any of my questions. But of one thing, Hani is absolutely convinced that the Israeli army killed his brother Mahmoud deliberately and on purpose. Because remember, they wanted Kamal Adwan to be emptied out, and he was prolonging the process. I consider that a possibility.

51:24At any rate, I can't rule it out. The IDF does carry out targeted killings. There are numerous examples. But when I asked the IDF about this, the response was not very helpful. In September 2025, I sent the IDF spokesperson the approximate coordinates of the place where Mahmoud died and the approximate time of his death. And I asked again, did you kill Mahmoud? And if so, why? And all they said was, Like we said, the IDF is unaware of a strike in the coordinates and time provided. No one can tell me anything. No one wants to have known anything. Is that plausible? To find out, we have to look behind closed doors.

52:11We have to go into the engine room of the Israeli Army and the Israeli intelligence services. And that is what the next episode of The Gaza Chef will be about.

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Mahmud Almadhoun ran a soup kitchen in the north of the Gaza Strip. In November 2024, he was killed. A reporter tries to answer a big question. Was Mahmud intentionally targeted? And if so, what does that mean about the future of war?

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