Why 25 Is the Most Dangerous Age for Your Dreams

0:28We've got some new things for you today. today with some of these dreamers so maybe by listening to people's dreams you can help them because if you want your dream to come true you have to help other people with theirs okay our first caller today is Hiran and I believe I met you a couple of weeks ago in New York is that right yes sir that's correct good morning Simon so tell us what's your dream and how can we help you so Simon um uh first of all thank you for bringing me onto the show I'm really super excited and my dream is to be a wildlife photographer and ultimately create a non-profit for wildlife conservation through my work.

1:08I believe in our first interaction I didn't get a chance to like mention the second part because I'm still on step one but photography is my passion and I like traveling and taking pictures of animals and landscapes. Got it. So what's the problem how can i help you today uh i think honestly since meeting you i did a lot of introspection um i think my biggest blocker is probably being consistent with my effort and my time um i think i lack a clear mission or like a defined project that that that would keep me motivated into like contributing to uh something so most of my photography has been done through like my traveling and like whenever I take time off of work to go travel places I take photography I take pictures there and uh it's not very goal-oriented it's more just uh exploring which which I like a lot it's thoroughly enjoyable but I think if I want to take my my my dream to like the next level I need to um I need to I need to have a project I need to have access to like a wildlife rich location and make sure that i'm i'm i have a goal and mission and and i have an impact that i want to drive um so that's to me like you've got an accountability problem you you can't seem to motivate yourself to focus and follow through right that's correct yep and so this comes sometimes from kind of the middle class trap we call it life isn't great but life isn't bad and this is probably causing you to be a little bit non-committal is that fair to say um i wouldn't agree 100 because to me photography is still my my passion and my hobby i don't want it to be like i mean i would be happy if it was my main source of income i can support everything my other dreams in my life um but i i view photography as a way to like connect people and like nature and i sometimes put that on on the back burner because of my other responsibilities my other priorities in my life um photography is sort of like what's the other when you say other priorities what what do you mean give me an exact example so um i am a i'm a i work i work at my job uh i take care of my health i like to go to the gym um um i moved to new york uh within the past year so another one of my my goals is to like uh explore and grow my world view uh as a person um so like honestly exploring new york with my new friends and um getting new experiences that's also part of my life and eventually like I want to be able to travel the world and and you know take pictures and go on trips and uh do fun projects uh in various like locations I wouldn't even have dreamed of like going but I think in order to do that for me like I need to build a good foundation because at the end of it like my still another dream I have is to start a family and be able to provide for those that I care about without having to worry about finances.

4:42I think you're a little bit all over the place. How old are you? I'm 25. 25, okay. I'm going to be really blunt. You're in a really important stage in your life. This kind of slight cross-pollination, you're trying to like do everything all the time i'm going to say something that could get me into trouble but you need to focus a little bit more on one goal now if if for example your one goal was wildlife photography which is the dream you told me in new york there's no reason why you can't go to the gym and be fit and do all those things and look after your health and be a wildlife photographer in fact i'd say it's critical for your job that you look after your health so I kind of feel like your problem is you cannot believe that you can make money out of wildlife photography you see it as a hobby even in your original things like a not-for-profit this is a mistake you're telling yourself you can't make money from it and that's making it true and now that means your job of course will take time away and then you fall into this kind kind of spiral of like too many things to do and not being able to do one of them well so i think you have to completely change your belief system and and it's not going to be easy on this call but you have to believe that you can make the wildlife photography business very profitable you should not call it a not-for-profit it can be a for-profit business that does good and you can make a lot of money doing it and you have to believe that otherwise it will be true that you can't if you don't believe you can then you won't you understand got it but you're also someone like you are in this middle class trap i know you push back on me a little bit but you are you're kind of like you've got a job and you've kind of you know got these things going on you want to have a family you're overloading yourself at 25 okay you you when do you want to have a family how long from now um in the next five five seven years right so so i'm telling you now if you don't go all in on this wildlife photography thing and then you have a family your commitments will be so high monthly costs that you won't be able to take a risk doing it that's why i say you have to do it now you're not young 25 you might think you're young, you're not young.

7:14This is a very important stage in your life. If you don't take a risk and go all in on one thing, you will regret it. You have a window to do it. You just need to dig in to the wildlife photography industry. You have to dig in hardcore to the wildlife photography business. Otherwise, you will regret it. And what you need to do is figure out the five ways you can make money from wildlife photography. I might be being hard on you, but I'm trying to be very honest with you. If you don't do it now, you will live for regret. Okay, this family thing, wonderful. We need more humans on the planet. I want you to have a family.

7:53But you need to dig into your career while you've got the chance and the time. Okay, and five years is both a long time away and not that far away. If you dig into your wildlife photography, you'll be profitable within two years but you have to focus you have to take your job and consider it a part-time thing keeping you sustained until your wildlife photography business makes money and you have to dig in so here are a couple of ways you can make money from wildlife you take a picture and you sell the prints online okay you take a picture because someone paid you to take a picture you get a in-house job at a zoo taking pictures.

8:32You make a album, a book of some sort with all these photos in it and people buy it. You get paid by Nikon or one of the camera companies to take photos. Dig in. How much do you need to earn per month to cover your bills?

8:51I would say around 8 ,000 USD. 8 000 us dollars at 25 what are you talking about what are you spending all this money on i'm talking about what your costs are to live how much you need to earn to pay all your bills what's that number

9:13around a month just breaking even i'd say around like 3 500 4 000 dollars my rent itself is also almost a thousand so are you living alone no i live with uh three other roommates we live in a four bedroom two bedroom apartment new york right yeah yeah okay all right go move somewhere where there's wildlife get that get that monthly cost down i it's okay but look you just need one client paying you four thousand dollars a zoo or um some chump the charity that helps save the cheaters for example they may want to you know getting you taking pictures of cheaters you just need to earn four thousand dollars a month from a brand sponsorship or client or income from selling prints that's your target in the next six months and then you can quit your job understood you're up for the challenge i am up for the challenge yep um yeah this is your future not mine you need you to be really really hungry like a lion hungry yeah you said the same thing with the initial time during our first i'm pretty boring i say this you but you got to fight man honestly you got to fight i'm i'm sensing like you're you're like a tranquilized lion right now you know there's this drug you're given from this job that you you know this isn't your future you know it but you have to fight come out of this tranquilizer state you're in right i tried to use animal analogies on you okay six months get a client paying you four thousand dollars to take pictures of animals if you go and approach all the zoos all the all the institutions around animal welfare they will do it one will pay you to do it and then you can be a full-time wildlife photographer that's step one got it right actually i went here um like after our first interaction i actually reached out to the the central park zoo in new york um i i went there personally they gave me i waited i waited to talk to someone they gave me a card i emailed them and i called them however I didn't get a response back.

11:34I proposed like a project, but I'm going to, this week my goal is to, I guess, try and reach out to them again, see if I can get a response back. Yes, but don't just target one. Don't just target one. Right? Target many. Okay? And do not take no for an answer. In business, there's no such thing as no. There's just persistence and timing. And so the other thing you could do is you can start taking pictures of people at the zoo and give them the prints, start sending to their customers. Like, hustle, man, fight. You're a lion fighting for your survival in a world that wants you to work for other people doing something you don't love.

12:15Right? Well, there's got to fight. And then when you have your family, they can travel with you. They can be with you. They can be a part of it all, but not unless you fight now. Got it. All right? Yes, sir. Let me know what you get up to, what happens. right i will do i will i will reach out to you guys thank you very much time for your time thank thank you for being open honest and uh and being aware of your issue okay guys this podcast is only possible because of high level who sponsor us and we use this money money to fund this podcast that helps people for free and to fund people's dreams and build platforms like helpbank.com High Level is an awesome CRM system.

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13:37So my dream is to open a traditional London pie and mash shop on the West Sussex coast. But ultimately, my bigger goal is to create a place where it can also fill people less fortunate or vulnerable without judgment and for free. this includes people like homeless the elderly and even kids on school dinners who often go hungry during the summer holidays there isn't anything anything like this locally um in the area so with so many people like myself moving down to um where sussex from london in recent years i believe there's a real demand for the traditional london iron mash shop for the big kids and i want to build something that serves everyone whether they can afford it or not i love him that's really cool and really unique and so what what's the question you have today um so one of the um ways that i've thought about that i can help the communities uh to have a pay it forward type of initiative but call it pie forward yeah love that um so it's just how i could execute it properly how i can prove it's a viable business model grow the demand for it and use the results to give jobs to people like my my own son who who be home educate those first working experiences yeah i'm a big fan of you okay thanks man but you know that's great i mean what what's stopping i mean it's very simple isn't it like you just have a pie business that makes money and then you use that profit to give people a pie for free i don't think it's that complicated you just got to build a profitable initial business yeah that is correct and so currently i'm a self-employed electrician um and i'm literally the sole breadwinner from for my family my partner does just work and does contribute to the household bills um but it's very relying heavily on what i earn like month to month right so and because i'm i'm i'm 40 years old now so like you say even even the last caller at 25 is different stages different stages that yeah how old are your kids so my boy is 10 years old now but one of the other hurdles that we had to overcome is he was born at 30 weeks so very premature very very scary time of my life is he okay i mean what what i don't know what that means if someone's born at 30 weeks and so 30 weeks is um 12 weeks early right so three three months okay and so he's very very small like he weighed three pound four he was only 27 centimeters yeah um luckily so we didn't have that many complications and he's he's grown out That was most of the issues that he had.

16:33Right. Well, well done, by the way. I've got an eight-year-old, so being a parent is not easy, no matter having that additional complication on top. But he's 10. He can help you make pies, can't he? Yeah, of course. Yeah, you've got some low-cost labour there, my friend, which I think I'm sure he'll be pretty excited about it. I see this as a family business, to be honest with you. I feel like someone makes the pie, someone packs the pie, someone delivers the pies. I kind of like I get you've got a full time gig now that's paying all the bills. I totally get it. I wonder if step one, there is some sort of interesting, fun integration.

17:12So, for example, what springs to my mind is like, can you make some pies and give them to your colleagues and then make some videos of them tucking in? You know, so electricians eating pies sounds like a funny channel to me. you know like have some fun with it so try to integrate what you're doing now with what you want to do in the future you see what i mean yeah no of course i'm sure there's a whole like slew of electricians who are out there not eating properly every day you know i'm sure you guys work you know sometimes through your lunch times and you don't necessarily eat the healthiest i'd actually i'd actually initially focus in on like the market you know so i wouldn't see it as like stopping being an electrician to do a pie business i would see it initially as a pie business that services electricians until it starts like taking off until you get traction on social media until people are talking about it i think i can see this working quite well you could even do like i'm guessing with electricians you go to particular shops to buy particular stuff like again for me like i don't know why but i go to screw fix to like put up my um pictures um i don't know if there's a particular shop or brand that you you go to a lot but get one of them as a sponsor or go to those shops and hand out pies yeah so there's there's um there's quite a lot of wholesalers that are out there like who give me one let's name one called c cf is cf is one of these very regularly cf cf cf all right yeah so anyway we can tag them in this this post um but you should go after these people and and almost create like a pie revolution initially within the niche that you understand more than most right most people think i'm saying quit your job and start this thing no build it up slowly and try to integrate your existing job to the future you want right so how can you do that i i really see this whole thing blowing up if you do it right giving an electrician a pie just filming their reactions you give them a free pie i just think it could be classic very funny and good content and the content can make you money and then people might start ordering pies at the shops that they go to to buy their hardware and then these shops will start sponsoring you that that's what i see what do you think yeah yeah no that sounds really great so one of the other things that we've thought about is the the job my partner does is she's a virtual assistant for a couple of companies so we've actually seen a bit of a gap in the market where no one's teaching people how to do that so we're going to use that as another avenue because it's always good to have various different avenue streams and if you do anything i've learned from your uh watching your videos is that it doesn't even matter if it's to do with the same business yeah sure if you can see that that idea turning into income that replaces the need for you to go to your day job every day then great um again i would look at it like if the dream is the pie shop then how does that feed the pie shop now if it's just a service business that makes money great but there's a part of me that would say why don't you just deliver pies to virtual eas you know like why don't you i i again i i just see can't you integrate it starting a whole separate business is a good idea if you're passionate about it if you're excited about it if you can all work on it great but equally could it be a distraction and just potentially another job that you don't really want to do um no so this is um this is definitely something i've thought about since i moved down to west sussex because at a very very young age as a child my granddad used to take me for par and mash and it's it's instilled in me from being a south londoner that pire mash is home i get it look i i would try to focus in on this transition um from from electrician to this pie shop business and i would use social media to do it i actually would say maybe your partner needs to move from virtual pa into the same business um if she's excited about it as you are and if not let her do the virtual ea business and you focus she's letting dog through the door she can't wait to meet and greet everyone cool all right look wonderful speak to you let us know how you get on okay i'm really excited to see and i want one of these pies it's talking about pies for the last 20 minutes it's making me hungry all right mate good luck you've definitely got an invite son look forward to it cheers okay guys next up is the person who doesn't know their dream let's see if we can help them in two minutes figure it out Aligua are you there hello hi Simon Aligua are you there hi I hear you don't know your dream I'm lost I'm very lost I know what I like to do and I know what I'm passionate about but I don't know how to focus everything that I love into one singular thing all right well maybe you don't need to let's find out maybe you don't need to so tell me just starting off a little bit about yourself so you know um where do you live what what when you say you figured out what you like to do tell us a little bit about that all right um i currently live in paris france but i'm from los angeles um man if i get started it might you might have to cut me off i've okay i have a lot of experience in film production so i've done three short films with my production company which is based in new york that i built with my friend zach um but because i'm in paris i can't work on it as much it's a complicated thing um but i'm also my problem with film is that i'm super passionate about it but i don't feel like it fulfills me, I really always come to the conclusion that what I want to do has to help people and not necessarily make the world overall a better place, but I just want to make other people happier because I'm happy when other people are happy.

23:21So I always end up falling back to, okay, well, maybe I'll become like a professor and I'll teach philosophy and Italian literature because I'm super passionate about that as well. Or maybe I'll go work in an orphanage because I'm super passionate about children and my biggest dream is probably to become a mother. But I don't know how to combine all of that. I kind of reached a conclusion. I don't want to say directly what my idea is, my big film that I want to do because I don't want anyone to steal it. But it's based on something with Italian literature. No one's going to steal it, by the way.

24:00No one. By the way, this whole people were going to steal you. No. No, I mean, look, sometimes by telling an idea, you have to go and do it. Because everyone's so scared of it being stolen. And they don't realize that by not saying it, then people can't help them make it happen. So there'll be people listening right now that can help you make it happen. If there's a million people listening, there'll be 10 people that can copy it. And there'll be 900 ,000 people that can help you make it happen. So it's kind of a, you've got to take a risk with this sort of thing, in my experience. and so the 10 people that could copy you they've got to have the time the money the inclination to have the same kind of passion as you so you know i think this whole that people are going to copy thing is so overrated and the telling the world about it and getting help is underrated okay okay so then i'll tell you um i really love the divine comedy from dante and for the last uh i love it so much that i learned how to speak italian and i moved to italy actually for six months when I lived in Florence um and for the last like three years I've been working on the script for Inferno because it's never been made into a film trilogy and I think especially now we definitely have like the technology there's a way to do it um so I've been working on the script but I'm I'm not sure where it will go and then my idea was that okay like I want to film it only in italy using only italian actors italian crew to really boost the italian economy because ideally i would love to live in italy and do my life there and have kids there and i would my heart would break if my kids left italy because the economy sucks so wow i don't know um you don't don't have kids now do you no no i'm 25 right yeah it doesn't mean anything 25 you could have kids but i i just checking because sometimes where you talk you talk you're talking like almost like in cross cross lives like i don't want my kids to leave italy as if you have kids now um but it's kind of kind of fascinating you're kind of a you're probably a polymath you know you you know what i mean what a polymath is uh is that like someone who's really good at doing a lot of different things yes yes yeah that that's my big problem like a lot of people tell me like oh you could be a great lawyer i could be a great journalist like everyone tells me a bunch of different things that I'd be great at but I don't know what yes would actually fulfill me so what will fulfill you I think is focusing in on being good at one of those things first so instead of one segment saying you could be good you want to be good at that one thing so like you don't have to restrict yourself on doing one thing I think that will make you unhappy but focusing it on being the best at one thing and having purpose in that one thing is what you need to do and so i mean a dream is really for me it's like a thing that you can aspire to achieve so for me it's like fix the education system right like it's a big ambitious thing now to fix the education system i can do 10 different things i can do a podcast educating people i can go into the street and ask people questions and get them help i can build a technical platform called help bank where people can go and get education from a community of people with knowledge right i don't have to do one thing i can do multiple things to service the mission the dream right so i guess for me what i found interesting about your quick your quick download is also this kind of helping orphans element and so like i i see that let's say you do this movie and it becomes a success then you can use the profit and the success of that to help orphans maybe even use profit to make content to kind of highlight kids that aren't getting housed or helped or you know their backstories and and help these charities that look after orphans get get income because most of these charities don't have enough income right right so you know i've always said that if i ever oh sorry sorry go on please oh i i was just gonna say i've always said that if i was ever like a billionaire I would spend like all my money just building a bunch of like halfway houses, homeless shelters, like everything.

28:18So let's make let's make you a billionaire. Let's make you a billionaire. You're the sort of person I want to be a billionaire. Let's make it happen. And the thing is, all you need to do is make your different ideas happen and work. You don't even need to run them. I'm not sure that this whole creating this kind of. divine comedy product like make it happen make it make money dig in because all these bigger ideas that you've got that are purpose-driven all problem gets solved by profit okay so right so if you if you're making profit then you can invest in all these things otherwise if you try to do it as a charity you're going to get spread thin and probably do nothing well so you have a you have a window like my previous caller actually this 25 you're 25 right this age this age is such a crucial age you've got enough experience now to know who you are you know what you can do but are you willing to double down and get really good at one thing or you're going to get distracted with crazy amount of things in your head dig in be good at one thing for a while like really good at one thing not good generally everything which as a polymath you will be good at generally everything but like go deep on one thing like make this movie happen as an example and if you do if you make it work then maybe you can help a thousand orphans this year you've got to think of it like that right these other things you want to do these purposeful things you want to do you don't have to work in orphanages to help orphans you can actually make a really successful movie take the profit from that and fund and support orphans you see what i mean right so the only thing is that i don't i have to have a job to support myself while i'm writing and putting together the production right right so that's yes there's no way that i could just make money while working just on this film well you there's plenty of people that sell a script idea to partners and get funding for it there's loads of grants for creating this sort stuff too like if you if what what job do you have now i'm currently unemployed sort of i'm doing i just started making like instagram videos for people that i know who wanted social media content produced for them but didn't know where to start okay that's okay again that's another way of you know funding orphans and orphanages right so but it's probably not where your your passion lies so there's things that we do that give us energy and there's things that we do that take energy I'm going to guess and say a service business is probably going to take your energy but I might be wrong because I don't know you so if you can make that work initially and make it so that you have 10 clients and three people are running it and you're making profit from it and then you can go and focus on making this movie that could be the more lucrative bigger profit item then maybe that's the way it has to be i mean i started a gardening company at 15 it was not my dream to do a gardening company but it allowed me step one to learn sales it learned step one how to get a client step one how to make profit right so these things could be stepping stones and you know part of me is a little bit happy you're unemployed because it means you have to make income by building something of your own at least you can control your time when you do that yeah well I did that kind of purposefully because for the last two years I was working as a waitress and I kind of lost my mind by the end of it it was just too much so I said okay I put a lot of money on the side I said I'm gonna take one two months be unemployed get my life together and then see where things go and as a result I have two clients that I work with to make media content focus equals freedom over time okay you as a polymath you need to focus initially not forever initially on making one thing work and i do think it's it's this content divine comedy thing it's it just it's not so much discovering your dream today i think it's teaching you a business model.

32:49The movie making business, let's say, that whole idea can fund your purpose driven side. You don't need to, again, be in an orphanage to help orphans. That is one way to do it. But you can go and build something successful and profitable, and then take a percentage of that profit and do good with the money. And that's what you need to do. Then you can tick a few boxes at once. You can be creative. You can put something out in the world that needs to be made. Again, go look at getting grants. In the meantime, build your service business. You've got two clients, get four, maybe get one person in to help you, and then that's fine.

33:25One day a week, two days a week, pays all the bills. And then you have three days a week, four days a week, five days a week to get this scalable product working, this divine comedy product working, right? Right, okay. But do it, focus. Don't get distracted. Heads down. Eat well, sleep well. look after your health dig in make it every day you wake up you have to see like today i've got my service business i'm working on that today tomorrow i'm not working on my service business i'm working this scalable product and once that works then you can go and help orphanages and so on clear okay yeah so i don't have to combine my work with my passion like i they can be separate my my work i can be passionate about and what fulfills me can be outside of that later i mean again just trying to use my own yes kind of although it's all integrated so my passion is to fix the education system that's what i want to do but i'm on a podcast with you teaching you business today now by doing that this podcast makes money i can then use that money to fund people's dreams at the same time other people can watch this podcast and learn the things i'm teaching you so i'm helping you and i'm helping people that are watching and i'm also making money which i can use to fund people's dreams so all of it is part of fixing the education system right now would i rather be out of my hot tub right now chilling maybe you know there's moments when i enjoy this and there's moments when i don't want to do it and i want to do something else because we're going to be happy all the time that's the wrong thing to chase the most important thing to chase is if you do do this divine comedy product and it works you'll be able to take that profit and go help some orphans and then you'll also have credibility to do a second one and a third one right and use your creativity to do something entertaining and interesting but use the success financial success of that to do the other things that you care about right okay make sense yes all right let us know how you get on and dig in sorry absolutely apparently according to my producer i didn't figure your dream out in two minutes but i kind of think i did you have your dream there i've just made you focus in on it what do you think is he right i mean i think i think we had a fair little trade here simon i i feel pretty satisfied i think you told me exactly what i needed to hear all right that's nice to hear and if the audience doesn't agree let me know in the comments and i'll give one person a hundred dollars to help you with your dream but thank you for coming on and sharing your vulnerability and your honest openness a lot of people will resonate with it so thank you so much for doing that and being so open and honest thank you so much okay guys you are welcome i want to thank our sponsor high level today without them this podcast wouldn't be possible with this sponsor.

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37:01The link's down below. Our next caller, caller number four, is Jannie Hanlon. Now, I met her daughter in Borough Market, and she asked for my help. Hello, how can I help you, Jannie? And what's your dream? Hi, Simon. Thanks for the opportunity for talking on the podcast. And it's been great to listen to the other listeners as well. They've kind of inspired me a little bit too. My dream is really to create Summer's Time, which is an affordable and accessible wellness retreat for all women. I'm inspired by my mum's story and my work with women and children experiencing family violence. I guess my question is how I raise enough money to start my first retreat and how to use social media to build demand for my first retreat.

37:57I'm not young. I'm 55. And so when I was listening to the previous callers, I was like, wow, to be 25 again would be amazing. um i'm with you so i guess yeah so um my personal i guess my my blocks are my uh financial um part and um finding the confidence to really step into leadership and public speaking as well um um yeah so i get it i get it and so um okay so i set you a challenge of doing a piece of content every day is for 30 days have you done it yes so i've done up to day 25 um it's been great actually because it's kept it's it's kept me pretty focused and um i'm it's it's i'm i'm creative as well so i like to take photos and um yeah and yeah create content i mean i'm it's all very new to me um i'm i'm not on tiktok or um x or anything like that i'm just on instagram okay no that's a mistake open up those other accounts it's i know i guess um i guess that's what i'm not that comfortable with how i go about doing things like that um yeah so i get i get where you're at okay there's uh first of all congratulations doing 25 days you have another five days to go so so don't stop i i i really want to delete your limiting belief systems like this i really want to delete your limiting belief systems so for example why would you post on instagram and not post on tiktok it's the same thing but you have double the chance of winning if you use both so tell me what's stopping you mentally um i guess it's again the confidence yeah i i think it's um putting myself out there um being brave enough to put myself out there remember this isn't about you this is about affordable accessible wellness retreats for women and if you don't put yourself out there it won't happen yep okay you there'll be people that will suffer because you don't do it and and you've been putting for 25 days your content up on instagram it's not that bad is it it's a creative outlet right yeah it's great yeah i've enjoyed it i've enjoyed the process so that's it it's like it's like a you're like a walking conflict you're enjoying it you've done it that's why i set you the challenge you're doing it you feel good it's great yet for some reason you think putting yourself out there is painful i don't know we prove them for 25 days that it doesn't matter right yeah yeah absolutely absolutely yeah so you need to you see people always say you know i i'm i'm 51 right so you know people said to me you can't teach an old dog new tricks right when i went on tiktok five years ago i'm like watch this dog learn new tricks you're wrong i can learn a new trick and so can you right then you need to delete this limiting belief system stuff right and so i don't know if this is going to help you but realize how powerful you are realize how important it is life is short you know that i do and so frankly 150 years from now 150 years from now all that people are going to remember is the legacy that you have created if you've created a wellness retreat that helps women that's what they're going to remember they're not going to remember some crappy tiktok that you did or did not like right so you have to push yourself through this limiting belief system stuff and see yourself as young right i see myself as young i am 51 but i think i'm 25 okay and so we can we can think it if we want no one can stop us right yeah absolutely absolutely and so i i genuinely think like being tired is a mindset like oh i'm old i'm tired we tell ourselves that out loud we become tired we stop exercising we stop pushing ourselves we stop doing the things that we need to do to give ourselves energy like purpose right we think well my life's over now so i don't my health was pretty bad a few years ago and my husband's so you've turned that all around yeah we have we have we we um changed our life and um you know and i'm really grateful for our daughter cassie kind of um you know putting me in contact with you because it's kind of pushed me um made me a bit more accountable for um having an opportunity i guess to go down this pathway i guess simon my told you before she loves you so much yeah um she's incredible and just listening to the previous caller about um producing films she's in film as well so um yeah i know how hard it is um but i guess my my main um issue is how do i connect with you know philanthropists or people that would be interested really does that come from your you don't want a philanthropist you don't want a philanthropist most philanthropists have a mission of their own right so you don't need a philanthropist you need a business model that people can invest in stop chasing you say philanthropist you're literally taking it from a million people that could invest in your idea to a hundred people that probably won't why would you limit the amount of people that could support this personally i think you start off small you do wellness retreats you sell tickets to them you get you work with an existing infrastructure and you build up your risk muscle i think you don't necessarily want a million dollars to go and open up the perfect place straight away i think you want to build it up slowly and be

44:15patient but that being said yes exactly so just go get a wellness venue booked for a weekend do a deal with them that you'll go and promote it and get tickets and then they'll share the revenue with you so you have no downside and you can try it and then you'll build out the software to the hardware the hardware is the wellness retreat itself the software what you actually doing that retreat is the important bit, right? So you need to go and test this model out. Now, if you manage to get a wellness retreat for a weekend and you get 100 people to come, and at the end of it, you've made 5 ,000 US dollars, that is an investable, repeatable model that a lot of people will invest in.

44:58You don't need a philanthropist. You need a business person. All your problem will be is cash flow, right? So once you've got that working prototype, you can say I can open up my own wellness facility and it will make X amount every weekend or I could just get some help and hire some people and I can do these wellness retreats every weekend in every major city in America right you know you can scale much quicker by doing them at say initially at weekends right yeah yeah but how how do I I guess my issue is how do I get that initial funding to start it off? You don't need any initial funding. Shelters can access.

45:48You don't think? Okay, no, that's a different thing. So the way I would look at it is... Yeah, see, that's what I'm trying to... I get it, but listen, I'm trying to give you structure, okay? Because the mistake a lot of people make is they keep saying, I need money, I need money. Right. And this is a bit like you saying, I'm scared to put myself on TikTok. You keep talking to yourself into the same barrier that doesn't exist. Right. This this barrier of money that you keep bringing up is not a barrier. You've made it up. OK, so so what again, you want to build a profitable business and with the profit, you can help those that can't afford it.

46:32all right so okay i get the affordable accessible i get it i totally get it but there's plenty of people that can afford it and will pay so i would do have you ever seen tom shoes you know tom shoes so you buy a pair of shoes and that funds someone who can't afford a pair of shoes i would go down that wellness retreat model right so start off with the best wellness retreat center near you go and do a partnership with them let them give you a weekend and charge for women's wellness retreat make money and then with that profit fund a whole weekend for those that can't afford it for free then you have a working prototype once you have a working prototype of content and real users real feedback you know who might invest in this the women that came to the retreat who paid yeah okay but you've got to start somewhere and waiting for someone to give you money for something that doesn't exist is the hardest way to do it you can keep trying you can have a business plan ready get ready to always be pitching to the millionaire who gets in the lift with you why not but i wouldn't wait for that I would build a working prototype by next month in 30 days time you could be running you could be running a wellness retreat for women and once and if you make profit from it you can then afford to help those that can't afford it to do it yeah I love that I got it thank you okay I want I want to speak to you again in 30 days time because I keep I'm sensing you know I'm helping you reprogram yourself, but it's a bit slow, right?

48:26So you've broken through posting every day, tick. Now you need to post on TikTok and YouTube. That's the next thing. And then you need to go and get this wellness retreat weekend thing organized and then start selling tickets to it, okay? Yes. Keep building momentum up. I feel it slowly happening. and if this helps you if you do what i'm saying right i guarantee you i guarantee you if you do this if you make it if you make a business model a weekend where women get wellness and you make money from it there will be loads of people that will invest in scaling that up especially if you have a mission to help those that can't afford it later okay thanks i'm going to put a video up promoting you okay so get ready in an ideal world you are going to put a wellness center ticket available link in your bio on your instagram okay so i want to promote you to 17 million people but i want you to be ready to try and get some bookings and also hopefully make money from your social media as well thank you very much all right so get ready okay all right thanks simon your mission's important well done so far pushing yourself nice to speak to you okay so there's someone who has a dream just finding it hard to push through we're all a bit like that sometimes right no one can do it on their own we all need a little bit of help so we've been running these spotify polls if you haven't subscribed to us on spotify you should do it right now and there's a feature on there called polls and we've asked people yes 14 people that's how many people responded to this impressive number i know but it will build up the question was um we asked what you think is stopping most people from pursuing their dreams and this is what people said what do you think people are using as excuses for not following their dreams here are the options by the way fear of failure lack of money wrong business model no action taken clear winner no action taken so uh yeah six people voted for that one we need more people voting on this stuff i want to know how you think 17 million followers we get 500 million views a month only 14 people have voted in this poll it's because you're not on Spotify.

51:05Go and vote right now on Spotify. I'm embarrassed it's only 14 people. But even 14 people gives you a bit of an insight. But I want to know what you guys think. So go and check out our Spotify polls and answer them. Right. So it should be more than 14 of you. But I think it's pretty accurate, even though it's only 14 people. You're not taking action, right? Why are you not taking action? It's because your mission isn't powerful enough. Basically, you have to do something. If you don't do it, someone dies. Right. If I don't make this content someone doesn't get the knowledge they need to live the life they want i have to do it even though right now i'm quite tired i quite like to be chilling in my hot tub because i've just done a new york trip and then i did an event for two days non-stop phone calls catching up with everything i'm supposed to be doing i'm tired but i'm still here because this mission is important you need that i want you to have that it gives me energy fighting for you that's it today guys a crazy show yet again we kind of helped someone with their dream helped a lot of people with their dreams if you like the show please subscribe to us on spotify and youtube and don't forget if you have a dream it's totally possible i'm saying it's true and if simon says it's true it's true right simon says touch your nose simon says start your dream simon says support our sponsor down below high level and i'll see you next week