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Sky Sports Premier League Podcast - Episode Summary: "Fernandez's late strike stuns Man City as managerless Chelsea hold out for a point"
Episode Overview In this episode of the Sky Sports Premier League Podcast, host David Jones, along with pundits Micah Richards and Daniel Sturridge, analyze the recent match between Chelsea and Manchester City. The game ended in a dramatic 1-1 draw, with Chelsea equalizing through Enzo Fernandez's late goal, following Tijjani Reijnders' first-half strike for City. This match highlighted Chelsea's resilience despite being managerless.
Key Themes and Discussions
Match Highlights
- First Half Dynamics:
- Manchester City controlled the early stages, taking the lead with a goal from Tijjani Reijnders.
- Chelsea struggled defensively, with a sense that they were under pressure.
- Second Half Resurgence:
- Chelsea made tactical changes at halftime that revitalized their performance.
- Enzo Fernandez scored the equalizer in stoppage time, showcasing Chelsea's determination and adaptability.
Player Performances
- Manchester City:
- Pep Guardiola's side dominated possession but failed to convert opportunities, reflecting a lack of ruthlessness.
- Players like Phil Foden were noted for near misses and underperformance in front of goal.
- The defensive setup faced criticism, particularly in allowing Chelsea back into the game.
- Chelsea:
- The players displayed commendable spirit, with Rhys James highlighted for his leadership and defensive contributions.
- Enzo Fernandez was crucial in the attacking phase, scoring the pivotal equalizer.
Coaching and Management Insights
- Interim Management:
- Callum McFarlane stepped in as interim manager, facing the challenge of unifying the team amidst recent turmoil.
- The players' collective response was praised, indicating a strong team spirit and willingness to support each other.
- Future for Chelsea:
- Discussion about the imminent appointment of a new manager, with Liam Rossini emerging as a favorite.
- The contrast between the expectations of a big name versus the potential benefits of promoting from within was explored.
Implications of the Match
- For Manchester City:
- The draw was seen as a setback in their title challenge, leaving them six points behind Arsenal.
- Concerns were raised about squad depth and injuries affecting performance.
- For Chelsea:
- The draw provided a stabilizing point amid a challenging period, reflecting potential for future improvement.
- A shift in team dynamics with the introduction of a new manager could influence their performance in upcoming fixtures.
Key Takeaways
- Resilience of Chelsea: Despite being managerless, Chelsea showed great character by equalizing late in the game, indicating a potential turning point for the team.
- Need for Ruthlessness: Manchester City’s failure to secure three points despite dominant play highlights a critical need for clinical finishing.
- Managing Expectations: The upcoming managerial appointment at Chelsea carries significant weight in determining the direction of the club amidst high expectations from fans.
- Tactical Adaptability: Chelsea’s adjustments at halftime and the impact of player leadership were crucial in their performance, showcasing the importance of adaptability in football.
Conclusion The episode provides an insightful analysis of a thrilling match that encapsulates the unpredictable nature of the Premier League. The discussions reveal both teams' challenges and the implications for their season trajectories, particularly for Chelsea as they navigate a managerial transition.
For further insights and analysis, listeners can explore more episodes of the Sky Sports Premier League Podcast.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOManchester City vs Chelsea Overview
0:30 to 1:40
Discussion on Manchester City's missed opportunities and Chelsea's struggles.
“It is one that has gone away and that will hurt.”
Chelsea's Resilience and Tactical Changes
1:40 to 2:55
Exploration of Chelsea's strategic adjustments and Reece James's performance.
“They had a little go and they got the well-deserved goal, but from City's point of view, they're normally more ruthless.”
Players' Performances and Managerial Impact
2:55 to 4:20
Analysis of individual player performances and the impact of managerial changes.
“So you're looking at yourself thinking, what's changed?”
Match Day Context and League Standings
4:20 to 6:20
Overview of the Premier League matchday results and implications for the teams.
“Patrick talked about him starting out in Sunday League as a coach when he was 16.”
Post-match Reactions from Chelsea Players
6:50 to 8:00
Interviews with Enzo Fernandes and Rhys James about their performance and mindset.
“and we'll have reaction from both camps as well.”
In-depth Analysis of the Equalizing Goal
8:00 to 14:00
Detailed breakdown of the key moments leading to Chelsea's equalizer.
“Rinders With force and purpose Finally, finally to crown the first half of Manchester City pressure Gusto skipping away from O 'Reilly It's Marleau Gusto, Liam De Laap and put in by Enzo Fernandes at the last.”
Analyzing Defensive Positioning and Strategy
14:00 to 16:47
Learn how defensive positioning and tactics impact game outcomes.
“I was going to say, when you say all the way, you mean go through the player?”
Evaluating Chelsea's Performance and Tactics
16:47 to 20:12
Understand Chelsea's tactical adjustments and their impact on the game.
“and they went a little bit higher up the pitch And then I said with City, they always give you chances in that middle area.”
Pep Guardiola's Insights on the Match
20:21 to 22:58
Get insights from Pep Guardiola on the match dynamics and injuries.
“This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast.”
Discussing Manchester City's Goal-Scoring Struggles
22:58 to 25:37
Explore the challenges Manchester City faces in converting chances into goals.
“Yeah, he'll be really disappointed because they were really good all over the pitch, They controlled Chelsea specifically in the first half.”
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Tactical Considerations for Future Matches
25:37 to 28:00
Examine potential tactical changes for Manchester City and their squad dynamics.
“They made it difficult, you know, at times today.”
Analyzing Semenyo's Role at Chelsea
28:00 to 30:00
Discussion on how Semenyo will fit into Chelsea's playing style and impact the team.
“but given that they have Foden and Cherky, Rinders operating in the channel, Doku was on the bench.”
Post-Match Reactions and Managerial Changes
30:52 to 34:25
Insights from Callum McFarlane on the team's performance and the interim management situation.
“finished Leeds 1, Manchester United 1, but that wasn't really the story.”
Expectations for Chelsea's Next Manager
34:26 to 42:00
Discussion on the challenges and expectations for the potential new manager Liam Rossini.
“Just one on him before we look at the future for Chelsea Because you have to be prepared for anything and everything, don't you, in football?”
Chelsea's Realistic Expectations Amid Change
42:00 to 42:52
Discussion on Chelsea's potential and realistic expectations for the season.
“is that certain players were deemed surplus to requirements.”
Upcoming Midweek Games and Key Matches
42:52 to 43:16
Preview of midweek Premier League fixtures and key matchups.
“Liam Rossini heading into London and he will talk to Chelsea about the head coach's role tomorrow.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28Thanks for joining us on the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. It is over for Manchester City. It is one that has gone away and that will hurt. For Pep, a costly spillage of points. For Callum McFarlane, the prize, the pride of knowing that when his day came, he took on the best and he matched him. Albeit Chelsea are now one win in eight Premier League games. that for them is a stabilising point for City, Gary, it's two points that got away. Yeah, the strange atmosphere throughout the game, it was tranquil in the first half, but he got City ahead. There's a hug from Pep Guardiola to Phil Foden, Phil Foden will be fuming with himself, the standards that City have set over this last few years, they've not killed that game off in the second half, and you knew that Chelsea have got bright players, they've got potential up top, and they've seen and been around the block enough this lot including Rodri including Bernardo Silva and the danger in the end got on top of them and they'll be gutted to Johnny Rinders 1-0 Manchester City and then four minutes into stoppage time Enzo Fernandes with the equaliser City are now 10 unbeaten but they sit solemnly six points shy of Arsenal's lead for Chelsea at least a stable day but their next step short term and beyond will fill the airwaves and the column inches for several days to come but this result in itself is substantial and of great significance Mark it's Manchester City one Chelsea one it is Peter thank you thank you Gary and you can see Micah can't you from the look on the faces of so many of the city players that they know they know probably they've only got themselves to play yeah and it's the same at midweek as well in terms of not finishing teams off to create the chances but it's mad to say they're not ruthless when they've got harlem foden shirky on the pitch doku to come on the pitch as well but they'll be kicking themselves they know they should have had three points today with the chances they're created but fair play to Chelsea come back in the game, manager made changes at half-time and then introduced players a bit further up.
2:51They had a little go and they got the well-deserved goal, but from City's point of view, they're normally more ruthless. So you're looking at yourself thinking, what's changed? What's the difference? Haaland not scoring in three games, Foden near misses, Shirky looking very tricky but not the final product. And yeah, they've just got themselves to bend today. but there are plenty of positives for Chelsea in that second half performance in particular Very much so the change that the manager made Callum McFarlane at the half time bringing on Santos for Esteval it brought a little bit more stability in midfield and gave him a bit more strength in there and then you bring De Lappan you bring on Hato as well the changes and the times of the changes were fantastic from him you saw that they had a lot of life out there they were pressing penalty posts going everywhere, making sure, giving everything.
3:41This man, Reece James, today was fantastic. He was all over the pitch making interceptions and putting his body on the line for his team. And at the very end there, a bit of skill from Gusto, you know, in that wing position. And a nice bit in the corridor of uncertainty and you're getting Zoe at the side there. And look at this, this is the thing we like to see, right? That's nice, isn't it? Yeah. This is what we want to see. We want to see, you know, the glory for this guy. Potentially he won't be the manager, but a night like tonight for him, it's a brilliant night. credit to him for all he's done for the club to do.
4:12Look, I appreciate if you're a Manchester City fan, that isn't nice, Michael, because you just rolled your eyes at me. But bearing in mind, bearing in mind in the pre-match interview with Patrick, Patrick talked about him starting out in Sunday League as a coach when he was 16. He's never going to expect to find himself in this situation. And he actually tried to hang back there. It was Rhys James that took him out. Yeah, but like I said, pre-match, I think he's someone who's going to stay on, regardless who the manager is going to be. And it's a great, great day for him. By all regards, he's a really good coach.
4:45And I said at half-time in terms of what he would do, he'd sit in and just try to catch Man City on a counter-tack. But he didn't know. He was brave. And, yeah, to come to Etihad and get a draw says a lot about what a coach he is and the players, the effort. Because he was talking about, you asked me the question pre-match, you know, the players need more responsibility. The players have to buy into what the manager wants to do, and they've done that today and got the well-deserved point. They have got a well-deserved point at the end of what has been a busy Sunday in the Premier League. There have been plenty of games today, six in total.
5:26Arsenal winning at Bournemouth last night. Of course, Wolves getting their first win of the season. Manchester United held, Liverpool held, Tottenham held as well Newcastle and Brentford with wins what a win for Brentford that is the Hill Dickinson they beat Everton by four goals to two and then here Manchester City one Chelsea one and so Arsenal go into the midweek round of fixtures with that six-point lead still intact Manchester Manchester City going above Aston Villa on goal difference. Chelsea in fifth ahead of Manchester United on goal difference. Liverpool three points ahead of the two of them after that point at Craven Cottage.
6:15Brentford up to seventh.
6:22And at the bottom, that point for Leeds at home to Manchester United now gives them an eight-point buffer over West Ham at the bottom of the table. And Sky Cinema has the brand-new Friday Film Club where they recommend a film for you to watch and they've gone with Nuremberg this week. That is available on Sky Cinema. So plenty to discuss with Daniel and Micah after that and we'll have reaction from both camps as well. Manchester City looking like they were going to get three points and close the gap on Arsenal. But Chelsea and Enzo Fernandes had other ideas. We'll see you in a couple of minutes.
7:25There's the Gary Neville podcast for Gary's immediate reaction to the biggest matches. Transfer Talk has the latest on all the big moves in and out of the Premier League and beyond. And for WSL fans, check out Pitch to Pod with Jordan Nobbs and Nikita Paris. Just search for Sky Sports wherever you get your podcasts. For now, though, let's get back to the Sky Sports Premier League podcast.
7:57Cherokee
8:01Rinders
8:06With force and purpose Finally, finally to crown the first half of Manchester City pressure Gusto skipping away from O 'Reilly It's Marleau Gusto, Liam De Laap and put in by Enzo Fernandes at the last. A late, late show for Chelsea here at the Etihad. Enzo Fernandes with the equaliser and he is alongside his captain, Rhys James, with Patrick Davies. Guys, well played in difficult circumstances, Rhys. How big a display of character was that? No, I told you, you know, we had to accept what went on earlier on in the week and, you know, put it behind us. You know, we came here with a game plan. You know, we know what level we can perform at when we're all together and all firing.
9:04You know, the first half we made a slight error for their goal. But second half, you know, as the game went on, we grew into the game. You know, we knew a chance would come and, you know, this guy took his chance when he came. And so you did take the chance. Just tell us at the end of a difficult week what that goal meant. Yeah, a difficult win for us. Difficult moment, but part of the life and the football. Today, we are 100%. I'm happy for the team. You mentioned the game plan in your first answer. Just tell us about that game plan, who came up with it, and how it seemed to evolve at half-time and then during the course of the second half.
9:45No, I mean, it was, you know, first of all, credit to the, you know, the staff that stepped up. You know, they haven't been in this role before. to come to City away. It's your first game, first first team game. It's difficult. We had to adapt fast. The first half, we felt they had too much of the ball. We had to make slight adjustments. In the second half, we came out with a slightly different plan. And yeah, as the game went on, as I said, we grew into it. Can you just tell us about the role of senior players? You spoke about your role before the game in terms of bringing the group together.
10:19I noticed that Kukurea, Kaysedo, a couple of the other senior players who were out injured or suspended, those guys were on the bench as well. They travelled with the team. So that looked like a real display of unity from all of you. Yeah, no, as I said, you know, we're in the difficult moment. You know, we have to stand together, you know, stand as a unit. You know, we are one. You know, there's many people that, you know, travelled today that, you know, we missed. But so many other players stepped up and this is what we need. You know, we fought as a team today and I'm proud of the boys. How difficult is it when a manager leaves like that?
10:53Of course it's difficult, but we have to fight for each other. That's the only thing we have in this moment, together, each other. We dug in and got a point. Enzo, could I ask you a question about the old manager as well? I saw you put something on your social media. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Just a question on Enzo Maresca, what he meant to you? Yeah, of course. No, no, no. Difficult moment for us. So, he's a top manager. Of course, I am side for him. But it's part of the football and the life. We keep it going and no more. Rhys, just lastly, do you know as a group what to expect next in terms of when the new manager comes in and when you'll get a chance to work with him?
11:42No, we know nothing at the moment. This whole week was about this game. What happens behind the scenes is not down to us. We came here all focused on the game. We take a point, a really difficult place to come. We have to recover, we play again in a few days and we will see what happens in the coming days. Well played both of you. Rhys is the player of the match. Enzo, if you don't mind presenting the award. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, they created some chances in that second half, did Chelsea, and it was the final one that they took, just. Just about, right? You know, but it was one of those moments for them where this pass out here from Rhys James gets him in that one-on-one action and the little shift he gives there and then the acceleration feeds it into the area, but it's that deflection there for me that makes the opportunity a clear-cut one.
12:35When you see it here, he's feeding it into that area. This is the best area to feed it into. But that deflection from Ake is what guides it towards Fernandes and gives them the opportunity. But the save from Donnarumma is absolutely magnificent. You're thinking, the goal's gaping. He gets up, big hand. Dinks it up against the post, doesn't he? Yeah. Open it, you're thinking, oh, definite goal here. And it's a cheeky little dink against the post. But they'd fully deserved it because they worked so hard today and they didn't create much but look at the elation on his face so happy and overdoing there's probably an element of relief there from him as well that it clipped the inside of the post it was a heck of a save wasn't it it was amazing the way he stretched was brilliant but it wasn't enough but just on that clip there you know Nico O 'Reilly the way he goes to the ball take nothing away from Gusto it goes right to the ball so quick so then by the time Gusto takes a touch if you just yeah there he's sort of if you're gonna go that quick you've got to take everything with you as in as in man and ball man ball absolutely everything but yeah it is is a goal there and fair play to enzo he always arrives in these positions here his firm man running is fantastic but in terms of defensively it's just nicaraghi he went and then he couldn't move go all the way if you're gonna go otherwise give yourself three or four yards where you can dictate where you want to go.
14:04I was going to say, when you say all the way, you mean go through the player? If you're going to go that speed, you've got to go all the way, all the way through the player, take the ball, take the man. Because by doing what he did, from your perspective, he gets caught what? So, yeah. In no man's land a little bit. So, I don't know if you can rewind that a little bit in terms of his positioning now. So, roll it on slowly. And we pause it there. So now he's straight on so now he's showing him outside So if you're gonna show him outside you've got to be ready to go outside And if you go on slowly straight through now we square on it can go the pass inside the little dink over and now is in no-man's land and Normally can do that with someone who's not got pace But that's why you have to give gusto a lot of credit because he's got the pace to do that and then put the delivery as well Go on, sorry.
14:59Is that then the body shape of the defensive? When you're approaching a player in that wing position, is it the body shape is pivotal for you to stop him? It's footwork. You see he goes with his left foot early and he gambles and he shouldn't gamble. And that's why I said if you're going to gamble, you've got to go all the way, take the free kick, played in Italy many years, and that's what it was taught to do. If you're going to go that fast, go all the way. And it just wasn't meant to be. I mean, you also have two centre-halves who'd actually come on as well, not to take anything away from the Chelsea goal, because both Diaz and Guardiola have gone off injured.
15:34Chelsea had eight shots in that game. Seven of them came in the second half. So we're not going to show all of them. We're just going to show the netto one. But the change worked. Some changes worked, rather. They did. And I think they came out with a new lease of life. You go into the dressing room and they're going to get the videos out. They're going to show you where you need to be. this is what we need to do to expose them, lads. The timing of the pass here is nice, but the feat from Enzo Fernandez to be able to do that in the box, and you're thinking, my man, my brother, you've got to hit the target there, my guy.
16:07You cannot be doing that. And you've got Joe Pedro at the back post thinking, one more, just one more. Give me a back heel, one more. I got an open net, and he did the wrong thing, clearly, over the bar. Would you have scored that? Me? I might have done a little back heel too. But the point of that and the seven shots in the second half was, you know, when we talked about City not being ruthless, it wasn't as if they hadn't had warnings, you know, therefore we really need to go and kill this off. Yeah, I mean, I think it's down to the manager and the change at half-time. I think Chelsea was in the mode of we've got nothing to lose and they went a little bit higher up the pitch And then I said with City, they always give you chances in that middle area.
16:57When you've got a Foden and a Shirky playing in them number 10 roles and it's all offensive, Rodri, who I thought was magnificent today, there's this space either side of him as well. And Chelsea, Cole Palmer goes into the middle, starts getting into them half spaces, and it's difficult because Chelsea have the quality. What we talk about Chelsea is just now the consistency, and that comes with experienced players. And, yeah, Chelsea fully deserve that. in terms of the work rate and then the tactical switch from the manager. But also, Man City did have the chance, especially in that first half, to see out the game.
17:35Let's just take a look at the Manchester City goal, scored by the man who was going to be player of the match until Chelsea equalised and Gary changed his mind. Yeah, I mean, you see in here there, obviously, so much time, and this is when you talk about Shirky and Foden, in them little spaces. The ball's actually for Haaland. And then it was actually Reinders who was the one who was running in behind. I actually don't think Chelsea defensively do a lot wrong here because if you see the way he's angled, the way the ball is... Got him on his left foot and shows him that way and then he just can't get the connection he needs.
18:14And if it goes in a near post, and I know goalkeepers won't thank you for this, you're always looking at the goalkeeper there. No, it wasn't because... I think the pace it went in, but the goalkeeper, I think he could have been half a yard. Can I ask you a question? I've never really thought about this, but you see, from the defender's point of view, would you consider that you've done your job there? I've showed him to an angle where the keeper... So in training, you modify the angle and then give it to the goalkeeper to go. So as he comes right now, So he's done as much as he possibly can do.
18:52He can't go across goal there. The only way he can score is at that side near post. So you think the goalkeeper's positioning and I'm not a goalkeeper. Joe Hart will probably tell me after they were talking absolute nonsense. But in terms of the position to help him out in there, if the defenders took a bad position, could he have started a little bit half yard to the right just to protect him? So the short answer is yes, he would have thought he'd done his job. And it was the goalkeeper's fault that it went in. Yes. Right, we will look at more of the chances Manchester City had when we come back.
19:30We will hear from Pep Guardiola as well on the missed opportunity this afternoon. And we'll talk what the future looks like for Chelsea. All of that when we come back.
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20:21This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. Let's get more analysis of the game and return to the student. Frustrating afternoon for Pep Guardiola. Manchester City peg back right at the end. Let's hear from the Manchester City manager with Patrick Tabers. Pep, a real setback, especially when you were so close to seeing it through. What do you think in the end cost you?
20:50Yeah, one action and score a goal. So we had a lot of actions with two against one. Yeah, we played a fantastic game, so I'm fortunate for the result. Did you particularly enjoy or were you particularly pleased with the first 45 minutes? 90 minutes for 95. We played so good all the game because it's normal second half, they make a step up. They were more aggressive. We got normally chassis and all like that. They make a step up. It was more difficult. We have two actions in the beginning of the game because we lose easy balls with Tijani and with Mateus. But the rest, we have chances in the right moments, you know, to close the game.
21:25And at the end, we cannot do it. And at the end, when 1-0, everything can happen with the quality that they have. Did you feel, though, as the game wore on, and perhaps it's done to the intensity and the physicality of the schedule as much as anything, that the team started to suffer a little bit? You obviously lost a couple of players to injuries during the game. Yeah, suffered for the injuries, but not the game. The game was not suffered. How are the two players, Diaz and Gavardio? It doesn't look good, we'll see next day. And you said before the game, the squad really, we're suffering, we're in trouble, I think, were your words before the game.
22:00I think that Cesar had a better season, and he played the season again, yeah. So does that feel like it's really been accentuated by what's happened today? not just the players you've lost injured but the pressure on the rest of the players who are playing more and more minutes. Yeah, it worries. It worries. We knew it when you have all the squad you can compete and rotate but now, you know, it's a situation but we'll have enough energy to get back. Do you worry though about the schedule ahead? I cannot change it. The schedule is where it is. Any chance of players back for Wednesday? Right now I don't know.
22:40I don't think so, but right now I don't know. I didn't ask to the doctors yet. Would it change transfer plans potentially, players in, players out? It feels like you need players in now. No idea. No idea. Thank you.
22:55The frustration mainly comes from the chances that they didn't take Daniel, doesn't it? Really? Yeah, he'll be really disappointed because they were really good all over the pitch, They controlled Chelsea specifically in the first half. They were very good in this channel specifically as well. And they were causing all sorts of issues for them. And you're thinking, that touch is magnificent. You're used to Man City being clinically in front of a goal. But these last couple of weeks now, we're seeing that reliance on Haaland. You get a goal from Rinders today. but when you're expecting the squad to be able to score goals, the other guys aren't delivering on a weekly basis and that's potentially the concern for him.
23:41You know what you're going to get from Haaland, isn't it? We're talking about, oh, it's only three games. That's absolutely nothing. That's normal for every striker in the Premier League to go through a three-game blip, but collectively as a team, you need the other players to step up to score goals. Otherwise, it's going to be a tall task. So when you're not scoring free, what would you do differently? I mean, Haaland's a different animal. He doesn't need to do anything different. He absolutely nothing. Everything he does is right. He's in the right positions. He's not shy. He's not scared to continue to make the runs.
24:11He wants to take the chances. Certain times when you go for a blip, sometimes you might, you know, certain guys, they hide and they go, oh, I'm not bursting a gut to get in that area. I'm not trying to put my body on a line to ensure I'm getting chances. Today, he had probably more space than he used to have. We saw one chance where he sort of ran through the whole team and almost scored. And we don't see that. But do you change anything when you're not scoring? him? I don't think he will and I don't think he needs to. I think it's about continuing to do what you're doing. Your luck will change and it's not necessarily luck you saw today hit the post.
24:42He was in areas. He created big problems. It was just it didn't go for him. I fully expect him to end up with 30-yard goals or whatever it may be and we talk about it now and we go, oh well, he still ended up with 30 plus goals. So I think three games is absolutely nothing for a player of his calibre. Funny how these things work, isn't it? If you go back to when people were questioning Arsenal like a month ago, it's because they'd drawn at Sunderland and then drew at home to 10-man Chelsea. And now there's a six-point gap at the top and people will be talking about where the title race is at because Manchester City, albeit have drawn at home to Chelsea, and they drew at Sunderland.
25:16I don't think this game is league-defining. I think I said it on Thursday as well. Arsenal play, what, Man City in April? That is going to be one of the games and there's going to be chops and changes throughout the season. And some games you think, we're going to win here, we're going to win there. It doesn't happen like that. And you've got to give credit to Chelsea for that because they put up a fight. They made it difficult, you know, at times today. And, yeah, Man City will be kicking themselves. But you have to give Chelsea credit, especially what they've been going through with having no manager.
25:49Yeah. I mean, it's on the defensive side. You said before the game you talked about on the counter-attack sometimes looking a little bit vulnerable. We saw that almost today with the goal that they scored, where it was in a one-on-one position in the wide areas. Are those some of the things you want to see them change moving forward if they are to challenge and actually go on and win the title? What in terms of Man City? Man City defensively in those transition moments where they're sort of being vulnerable in counter-back. It's very difficult at times because you've got Nico O 'Reilly, he's a left-back, who's a midfielder.
26:16You've got Mateus Nunes, who's a right-back, but he's a midfielder as well. So if you talk about defensive instincts, it's difficult. they're doing so well because Man City always dominate the ball. So in terms of getting on the ball in midfield and playing, but they're not natural defenders. Although the question I would then ask today is, how long do you have to have played in that position before you are that position now, as opposed to what you formerly were? It depends on how your team play, though, doesn't it? I think with the way Man City play, they dominate the ball, so you're left exposed a lot of the time.
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26:51The thing when we talk about Nico Gonzalez, why it took him a while to get up to speed, because he'd be replacing Rodri, who mopped up all the counterattacks. He'd come into the game now as a defender. I used to love that one-on-one defending. That was my game. I used to love it. But these players, especially as midfielders, at times, because Man City sort of starved from the ball and pushed you back, you then become in a one-on-one situation where their attributes at times don't suit them. That's why when they had a Kyle Walker, I'm not saying that they need one, but that's when it amplifies that individual one-on-one defender and you sort of see the attribute jump off the screen like, oh, he's really fast.
27:31He's great in one-on-one actions. Whereas now they are ball dominant. So they're rarely in these moments. So you don't get to see that type of action where, you know, Gusto goes past Nico O 'Reilly. You rarely see that. You rarely see so much space for a one-on-one moment against Man City. So given they are ball dominant then, now it's kind of moving on from the defensive problems that they've got today with Guardiola and Diaz and looking at who they might be bringing in in Semenya. Given that they are ball dominant, but given that they have Foden and Cherky, Rinders operating in the channel, Doku was on the bench.
28:06If Semenya comes in, how do you both think they are going to use him? Probably high and wide. So that would then change the Foden-Cherky dynamic. Yeah, maybe, because historically, you can talk about Man City's wingers are high and wide, you know, like a Mahrez and a Sterling and a Sané, etc., etc. Now, the wides are coming in the number 10s and they're using the full-backs, Nunes and O 'Reilly, to go high and wide. So then it's a different way to approach the game. But if you had someone like Doku on one wing and Semenyu on the other, then you start with wingers high and why did he get Cherky and Foden in central areas?
28:47Yeah, I think when you look at them today they're not predictable but they're a very we move and we advance the ball in a specific type of way, they've got similar players in Foden and Cherky in there that kind of do similar things and pick up similar pockets and you've got Ryan Azu who seems to be the one to make the runs in behind for them, similar to what maybe a Gundogan would have done in previous years so I think for me similar to what Mike has just said there is that Semenyo is going to be that guy that when there's balls coming in the box, he's going to be at that back post scoring goals.
29:19He's a goal scorer. What I love about his game so much, his work rate. He's always working back. He's going to give them a guy who's goal driven, who can create his own shots. If you look at him statistically last year, he was top five in shots taken in the league playing for Bournemouth, which means I have the ability to create a chance for myself. And now I'm going to a team who's ball dominant. Yes, he will be facing teams that are deeper, so it poses him a different problem. But we're talking about a guy who the manager can go, look, when the ball's in this area, I need you at that back post making those runs.
29:48And that's how Raheem Sterling's in the 100 club. Because you get those goals playing for a club like this who are ball dominant, you're going to be in the box and you're going to have goals at the back stick in a six-yard box. That's the kind of thing that I'd like to see from Semenyo. We will hear from Callum McFarlane when we come back after Chelsea got the point here at the Etihad. And we'll look at what is next. for the club. This season, Sky Sports is showing even more live Premier League football. We've got at least 215 live games, including more matches on Fridays and Mondays. For the first time, all the games on the final day of the season will be live in one place.
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30:51First game of the day was at Elland Road, finished Leeds 1, Manchester United 1, but that wasn't really the story. The story happened in the post-match press conference with Ruben Amerin. No, guys, I just want to say that I came here to be the manager of Manchester United, not to be the coach. And every department, the scouting department, the sport director needs to do their job. I will do mine for 18 months and then we move on. Well, you wonder, don't you, whether that was his, what you could call Enzo Maresca moment. You will have more reaction to that with Jamie and Dave on Premier League Extra Time.
31:36because let's not forget it was less than a month ago when Enzo Maresca came out and said the 48 hours previously had been the worst of his managerial life and that ended with him leaving the club this week. So let's hear now from the man who has taken his place in the short term, Callum McFarlane, after a one-all draw here at City, is with Patrick Davidson. So how did you find that on the touchline and then at half-time getting the message across, dealing with, I don't know, I guess at a tactical level you've not experienced before? Yeah, I think the main thing is that the players are all, for the whole two days or three days we've worked with them, is that they're open, they're hard-working, they're honest, they want to do the right things.
32:24So I can't speak about my changes more than what them buying into it and them applying what we wanted them to do. And I thought they did that exceptional in the second half. So how good have the players been with you? I saw it looked like a really nice moment where Rhys James took you over to the supporters at the end and noticed on the road we were sat and actually loads of senior players who weren't available travel with you as well. So a word for those guys. The group have been exceptional. As a staff, as a 21 staff coming in, we couldn't ask for anything more. No egos, completely on board.
32:58Training's been brilliant. Enzo, Brees, Tosin in terms of their leadership and management of the group now that the manager's gone and there's an interim in. And then like you mentioned, Levi, Kuku, Moises, Robert all here traveling even though they know they're not going to play. The togetherness in the group is exceptional and that's why this group can win big games and win big moments and they've done it again today. At 1-0 down at halftime, interim manager, players injured, everyone's expecting the worst but the character this group has is why they can go and beat PSG it's why they can beat Barca why they can play with 10 men against Arsenal and be the better team it's why they can do this at the Etihad they're an exceptional group exceptional group of people At some point in the future is that giving you a taste for it?
33:44What you've experienced today in the last few days? Yeah I really enjoyed it but like you mentioned previously I'm inexperienced but I really enjoyed it obviously in the future I would love to do that but at the moment I love my job, I love my role, I've got a really good role at Chelsea and I'm just here to support in the short term until the new manager comes in and I'm glad I can do that and help the players. Do you know what happens now in the next few days with you, with the new manager coming in? No, definitely not. My sole focus has been on Manchester City away at the Etihad so I have no idea what happens next.
34:18We're in tomorrow, we're training and I'll lead the group until I'm told otherwise. Thank you. Thank you. Just one on him before we look at the future for Chelsea Because you have to be prepared for anything and everything, don't you, in football? But that has been a whirlwind 72 hours for him Yeah, I mean, when you get the call, I suppose he's probably thinking OK, well, I've got to get to work, you know And figure out how to get these players prepared for a match It can't be easy And you're going into the dressing room with a lot of egos a lot of players who have won trophies and you want to command the respect of them and you hope that they respect you and will listen to the information you're giving them.
35:05But you do it by being a good guy, don't you? Of course. You can't then go to Rhys James and say, this is not happening, I'm not too sure. You get him on board first and then obviously him as a captain then goes round the dressing room and then the other players get on board. That's how it normally goes, right? Normally, yeah. I mean, you know, you've got a... It seemed to me today that when they were out on the pitch, it was like, OK, we're going to do whatever it takes to get a result today. The players were pressing more. And I'm not saying they weren't doing that for Mareski because they were.
35:36But you could see there was that edge to them today that it almost seemed from the outside looking in that they were doubted and people thought, OK, they're going to go there now. The manager's left. A lot of volatility, a lot of toxicity at the club. Now, all of a sudden, they're going to get battered at the Etihad. They've come here today, worked their absolute socks off. stuck to the task, the manager made some changes at half-time tactically, made some personnel changes as well, and got a fantastic result. You can only go away on the way back to London now, probably having a beer or two, you know what I mean?
36:05Not alcoholic, I hope. Well, you never know. But, you know, and saying to themselves, look, we came to the Etihad and got a result, and the expectation wouldn't have been that. And now the story has moved on, it's developing this evening, the understanding at Sky is that Liam Rossini is flying to London tonight and that he will then interview for the position of Chelsea head coach tomorrow, which if you look at everything that... It's happening, isn't it? It's happening, yeah. I don't know why he's being around it. It's happening. I'm not being around it. I'm giving what the formal story is. I can't go Liam Rossini is on his way and he'll be Chelsea manager tomorrow.
36:49Everyone knows he's going to Chelsea Football Club. He was favourite in the betting, if that's your type of thing. But in terms of what he's done, obviously he was at Hull, he was derby interim. I think the appointment is bold. I think it's brave. I'm talking like he's got the job. If he does, then sign and everything goes ahead. But it's what he's done at Strattsburgh. I think that, you know, the Chelsea group, so you can speak, you know, the top of the conference league, the seventh in league as well. But more importantly, it's the style of play. There's been reports from Chelsea, from my sources at least anyway, that they like him because he plays attacking style of football.
37:39The other thing, and people go, well, it's the obvious appointment because he's within the same football group. What you could say is, Daniel, that by being in the same football group, whilst the style of play is important, they know exactly how he operates. They will know how he reacts. I know it's at Strasbourg in Ligue 1, but they will know how he reacts in good situations, in bad situations, which you don't necessarily know when appointing a manager from outside. Is that a positive for you? It's a positive, but I also feel it works both ways. He knows what they expect. He's worked in the confines of that group now.
38:23And we hear a lot of managers or coaches, you know, you can see from how people talk now, there's a distinct difference between the two, a manager and a coach. I believe they're hiring a coach in Liam Rossini if he does get the job, because I think he will. He's been working with young players. He's worked with young Chelsea players on loan. I think he's going to come to this football club. And look, it's going to be a difficult job because there's going to be eyes on the outside. And the expectation in the fan base now is that he's got to come in and hit the ground running. And I think he will be under a little bit of pressure if the results don't follow because it's happened so fast.
39:00That's the thing for me that I'm concerned about. I love the fact that he's going to get the opportunity if he does get it because young English managers at clubs like Chelsea, it's few and far between that. they'll come in inexperienced as well and get this opportunity. But I'm very excited for him. And if he is the manager, I wish him well because I would love to see him do well there. What's the expectation, though? You've played for Chelsea when you won the Champions League. You won the league. And Chelsea fans, no disrespect to Liam, they may be expecting a massive name. Chelsea have gone down the coach route.
39:36And by all accounts, he's a very good coach and plays. good football but what are the expectations now for Chelsea? Well, the expectation I think at the start of the season off the back of winning those two cups was maybe a little bit of a change. Can we now creep from getting in the Champions League a little bit more, you know and sort of show the progress? And I think that he, you know, Maresca did show that progress. I think now it's about saying we get top four now. That's an achievement for me considering the managers coming in now potentially there's going to be a formation change or will he come in and do and work with the players and that's going to be one thing to deal with.
40:16Then you've got to deal with the expectations of the fan base. So I think the ownership group are going to allow him to have time. But historically, we know what Chelsea have done in terms of managers and the level of managers that they've brought in. They're all legendary guys, like I said earlier on, you know, big name coaches. Liam Rosina has to come in there and potentially earn the respect of the players. just as much as you know. So that was what I was going to ask you about. Is the fact that this is a young squad actually an advantage for Liam Rossini in that are they... Your environment is a very unforgiving environment within a football squad.
40:50Because they are young and quite a lot of them inexperienced, are they less likely to go, well, come on then, show us what you've got? You talk about those previous Chelsea managers and the big-name managers, but they would have had a squad where, I don't know, a Drogba or Hazard or a Terry or a Lampard who had been successful would then go, well, come on, show us why we deserve to be with you. Well, again, it could go both ways. You've got a guy who's won a Champions League in Rhys James, a World Cup winner in Fernandes. They're two top players who you would argue have been there and done it, right?
41:22So he's obviously got to go in there. He'll have conversations. He's always seen your meetings. When a new manager comes in, you speak to four or five, you bring in, come into my office, let's have a chat. Let me know how things have gone in the past. How do we move this thing forward? What things were right? What things were wrong? Those are the types of conversations that typically happen behind the scenes. Then the players will be looking and saying, OK, how are we training? You know, what's the focus here? Certain guys will feel the love. Certain guys will feel like, yo, I love this. And there's going to be a group of players who unfortunately will be gutted because now I'm probably not part of the plans because this manager sees things differently.
41:58And that was the thing when Moreski came into the club is that certain players were deemed surplus to requirements. And then you get, you know, situations where you sort of think to yourself, you know, I've not had a chance. So I'd like for Liam Rosini to come in and have a good look. But at the end of the day, there's no time. Well, that's why I ask you about expectation. When you say... Yeah, expectation is top four. But what do you think their expectation should be? Champions League? I think Champions League is realistic with the squad. I think go as far as I can in the Champions League. I've said it many times before, Chelsea can beat anyone on their day, as proven in the Club World Cup.
42:36But when you've got that amount of youngsters at this period of time, top four is realistic. Whether the fans want to hear that or not, I think with a new manager in experience and younger players, that is a realistic target. So that is the news this evening. Liam Rossini heading into London and he will talk to Chelsea about the head coach's role tomorrow. Although Michael already thinks that he's got it. Tuesday to Thursday, the 10 midweek games. All teams in action. Manchester City play Brighton. And then Arsenal against Liverpool is our game. All the build-up on Sky Sports Premier League on Thursday.
43:21And they go into that with a six-point lead at the top of the table. Thank you very much to Daniel. Thank you to Micah. It's been a busy day.
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