"Adam Driver"

28:02And I'm like, fuck, man, I just forgot exactly what you're talking about. I just forgot all that shit. Right. waking up in the night all the fucking I'm like fuck right and they're durable I mean the first one you don't realize how durable they are in the second one you're like it's fine she's fine she's okay yeah yeah yeah so Force Awakens Star Wars I just wanna well let's talk about how you diaper your dog Sean real quick no I just I just wanna get through it so you guys don't have to suffer okay again Adam we apologize and then we can move on and then we can move on do you wanna call Scotty in here I mean yeah I did I just I texted him and he said Yeah, he said, he wrote, well, everybody knows it's no secret that me and Scotty are huge fans.

28:43Sean's husband, Scotty, is like, the two of them are like the massive. Adam might not be up on you and Scotty's, you know, movie taste. Yeah, that's okay. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm telling. No, everybody who listens is listening. So, Adam, when you. Again, that's like 25 people. Here we go. Question, please.

29:0525 people. We're good. So I have the obvious stock questions, which is, is it real?

29:17Please don't tell me it's not real. Yeah. Please tell me it's all real. Totally real. I'm there now. Oh, God. I'm there now. No, I want to know, like, were you a fan before? What was it like getting, you know, getting, like, getting that call to be like, you're part of this iconic thing. Okay, sorry. What was the first one? The first one was like, were you a fan? I was a fan. I grew up, my dad was more of a Star Trek fan than a Star Wars fan, but I did have a couple Star Wars toys that we got garage sales, but I was a fan of the movies, yeah. And then to be asked to do it was, I thought about it a lot because again, I didn't want to be bad in it.

30:03So you got an offer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an offer, but there was no script to read, which I'd never done before. So you had to commit to it. JJ walked me through the whole thing, but there was no script that you could actually see how that played out. But also, Adam, I'm sure you thought at the time, because I was certainly, we had just finished working together, I was very well aware of you, your talent, your position in the community, what your potential was as far as jobs and fancy directors and all that stuff. I'm sure at a point you must have thought, even though you're not a strategic thinker, annoying like that, you must have thought, well, I don't want to sign up for something where this is going to be louder than anything I'll ever do in my career.

30:47Am I tying myself to this for multiple films? Did any of that go through your head? I'm sure it must have a little bit. No, actually, no. I never thought that this was going to be the only job I got. I mean, I don't know why I didn't think that it was going to be, I didn't think I'd do anything bigger than that. But I, I, I, I had hoped, I was optimistic that I would work after it, you know, and hopefully not, you know. But I wasn't thinking that too far, too far ahead like that of what the end result of it would be. Because the end result could also be you were in a movie that everybody saw and nobody liked.

31:24And they didn't like you in it and they didn't like the movie. and the idea that a movie of that scale, that anyone would actually watch it. Like I was just coming from girls and this is where I leave you and tracks. You were so great in that movie. Thanks. And it was very... And passionate people about it like Sean would be like, what is he doing in this? And he's ruining the franchise. You don't want that. No, I would never. But it's got to be cool to go through the process of like seeing the drawings of your character and then the fittings, the costume fittings and then touching the props and like all that stuff must have been so surreal.

32:03Touching the props. Yeah, the lightsaber just done. Don't wreck your pants, John. Jesus Christ. That is so cool. By the way, you're one of the few people that I turned to Scotty and I said, I have such a massive talent crush on that guy. Just because you're so good in everything you do, but especially in that franchise. I agree. You know what is amazing? And kind of also this kind of fits in Jason a little bit with what you were saying is like, you, you know, you do like these, you know, Star Wars, one of the most, you know, I don't know if there's a bigger sort of brand in terms of film and, you know, maybe it's sort of the Marvel cinema universe and all that kind of shit.

32:40But you do that and not only does it not paint you into a corner, it kind of does the opposite. It opens you up to a whole, to all these people globally. And then you continue going. I said at the start when the boys were trying to guess who my guest was, if you look at the list of directors that you've worked with, it's, I mean, it's almost peerless, man. You're, you're in that way. It's just, it's remarkable how many of these incredible, you know, some of the greatest directors of, of our time have all wanted, have all asked you to come and, you know, go on these sort of creative journeys with them.

33:18And that's got to be, feel very, and I guess, you know, I also noticed like the way that you talk about stuff, Like, yeah, you are not a strategic thinker. Like, it seems like you are like, you just kind of go with what inspires you. Am I right about that a little bit? Well, yes and no. I'm not strategic in that I'm like, oh, this needs to make money. So we, although I should think that way. I do get now that you don't do movies that make money. They'll stop asking you to make movies. That's what I've been told. but I I if I in my mind it's a filmmaker's medium so I'm strategic in that well isn't the goal then to work with great filmmakers and and and you know sometimes I I feel like if I connect with it then I can but I've people that I've wanted to work with where the thing that they wanted to do I I knew I couldn't do or I I felt like I wouldn't get there and so I I'm not I'm not really answering your question.

34:20But I am strategic in that like, you know, it's a filmmaker's medium. It's a, you know, plays are a playwright's medium. You know, TV seems to be a writer's medium. That's, you know, those are the people that I always wanted to work with. And it's, and I made myself available to, to try to work with them if, if it, if it came up. You've also, you've also in the last two years played two very significant, portrayed two very significant Italian men, one a designer, and both incredible creative minds, if you think about within their thing, right? You played Maurizio Gucci. Right. And now you're playing currently Enzo Ferrari.

35:04I mean, that's... Yeah, I guess that's a good example of not being strategic in a way that I probably should. like so many people have been like how many italian i'm like it's just kind of worked out that way and yeah yeah i think someone probably would have should have said you know like maybe because it's going to come up a lot you know but i'm like well it's it's ridley and it's it's michael and i i've in my mind the some of the best filmmakers who gives a shit that there's two right two italians back to back exactly yeah who gives a shit and also like you said two two incredible filmmakers and two great stories yeah so who gives a shit what it is you'd make 10 in a row probably i imagine you would if if they were great stories and great directors yeah well probably not italians anymore though but yeah because i'm surprised how much it comes up you know it's like you know that are you have a thing i'm like it's two it's two italian you know like it's just two you know it's like i'm like all right you know that these things are not a place I mean, this is, but press isn't a place that you have a nuanced conversation.

36:04No. That seems like a hard idea of like, well, what is it with Italy? Well, I mean, it's less to do with Italy, although I like it, but it's more about Ridley Scott and Michael Mann and the projects themselves. Italy is not the first thing on my mind. Right, right, right. You're not calling your agents going like, hey, give me another great Italian role to play. Yeah, right, right. Campari, I hear, has not done a tie. Really? Oh, let's go. Like the corner of that market. What about, were you into car racing at all beforehand? No. No. It probably didn't matter, right? I was into cars. I was into cars, but I couldn't, you know, I wasn't, you know, I knew of Ferraris, mostly from Miami Vice, you know.

36:44Yeah. And, but it was unattainable. It just, it wasn't part of my upbringing, you know. Right. Well, again, Michael Mann right there. Are you like a sports guy? you play a lot of sports, boxing, anything like that. I know, I like watching, I'm kind of stuck in time a little bit with in late 90s Michael Jordan. So I'm just now only recently because I'm trying to work less, I've gotten back into going to basketball. But basketball is my sport. Does that make you a Knicks fan or a Pacers fan? It makes me a Nets fan because I'm in Brooklyn. A Nets. Yeah. All right.

37:22So basketball is your thing, but you're not like a watch football, all day kind of guy or anything like that. No, no, no. No, I wish I did. I mean, sometimes I watch football all day, but not really, no. I mean, I'll watch like Tyson highlights, but like Mike Tyson highlights, but I won't keep up to date with the, like I missed the Tyson Fury fights and I'm not a full man. I miss Mike Tyson. Remember Mike Tyson was just like, it was just horrific watching what he would do to people. And I could not stop watching. No, no. We haven't had a boxer like that since him, have we? No. No. I mean, what's his name?

37:58The guy, the English guy who's, wait, you just said him. Tyson Fury? Tyson Fury, yeah. He's been fairly dominant, but not in that same way. This last fight, didn't he get knocked down twice, two or three times? It's all UFC, right? Yeah. It's all UFC. I can't, you know, I'm sure we'll have some fans who are like, you know, grow up. But I find UFC to be so dark. Oh, grow up. The energy is so dark for me. I don't know. There's something about it that seems real. I used to watch it right before I go to bed. One time in the middle of the night in my dream, I thought I was in a fight and I threw an elbow at Amanda and I just missed her freaking nose.

38:38I just whacked the pillow that she was sleeping on because I was in a fight in my dream. Because you're watching UFC? Right before I went to bed. It was like the stupidest thing. I was like, I might as well have a big steak too. I ended up killing somebody. I don't know. Anyway, we digress. We'll be right back. And now, back to the show. Adam, are you going to, is there any more talk about more Star Wars stuff? Oh, boy, look who's back. They're doing stuff, yeah, but not with me. I'm not doing it. You're done because the character's done. Yeah. All right, and so, and then, but wait, did you? But would you?

39:17But if you did, what character do you think you might buy? But if they came to you tomorrow and... if JJ was really nice about it. No, I want to know. Can you just give me one good story from filming it? Something that was great or went wrong or something that was surprising. Oh, you know what I loved? This is what I loved. It was at the end of Force Awakens and you're doing the final battle with Rey. It's like he's stuck in an elevator at Comic-Con in your fucking nightmare for you. I just want to say, I'm never going to run into the guy ever again. So, well, I hope I do. But when you're wounded, when she got you, and you're walking around in a circle, and you start banging the side of your hip like this, trying to get the pain away or something because you're bleeding.

40:05Whose idea was that? Such a cool, specific actor. I've never seen that. So cool. Thanks. Thanks. I will actually legitimately say that was mine. that the idea that we how it was pitched to me was uh again none of these were written but that the very beginning was that his journey was supposed to be the opposite of vader's in that he starts almost the most uh as opposed to someone who's the most dark from the beginning and then by the end of the series becomes the most vulnerable that he starts the most vulnerable and becomes little by little um more uh committed to the dark side i i feel like eventually they they i think got rid of that idea but in my mind as i was playing it that's what i was working towards so all of this stuff is anytime that even abstractly that and by the end of the movie it starts anything uh that starts to come into his world that reminds him that he's vulnerable he has to get rid of it you know so yeah yeah i think just in an abstract way it was okay so then when you got wounded and you were bleeding you're like i got to get rid of this like yeah yeah yeah Yeah, that's really cool.

41:13It wasn't very conscious. I wasn't consciously thinking of it. I think that that's just like this pain. It's so cool. He's trying to snuff out anything. He's getting more and more. So by the time after he kills Han, you know, hopefully that you see in his face that he shifts into, you know, he's made a choice that he's going to commit to the dark side. Yeah, yeah. How did you like the pace of that? You know, all the effects and stunts and things like that, But I would imagine because of their luxury of schedule, too, that you didn't have to shoot a lot of pages every day. I just remember working with you that you like to keep a nice momentum going.

41:50You stay in it and you're ready. How were you able to throttle up and throttle back with the slow pace? There's a massive adjustment. Even when this is where I leave you, I hadn't quite figured out where to be economical at all. So the breaks in between, I never figured out the language of a film set. So I was still figuring it out. So I was wasting just like a lot of energy trying to keep something like kind of an engine going. That was, I made, Star Wars was way more exhausting for me than I, I made it more exhausting than it should have been. Because I hadn't quite figured out the momentum of a set that was that big before.

42:28All the things I'd worked on were really small and they moved pretty fast. So what did you learn? I love that idea. Yeah, I remember somebody saying, I remember saying to somebody like, coming off Arrested Development and then doing a couple movies, I was like, fuck, making a movie is so boring. Because it would just take so fucking long and you have all this big time in between. And like, how do you stay, especially making a comedy, like it's so hard to make a good comedy movie because there's just, there's no... Momentum. Momentum and you need that to keep it up, right? Like, and so what did you do actively to kind of train yourself to perform in films that was different?

43:06Like, did you have something like a technique that you... Yeah, well, usually the director sets the pace of the set. I don't like to be the person that tries to control the pace or rhythm of a set. I kind of let the person that's, you know, they kind of, and so I have to adjust. Like Spike Lee and Soderbergh shoot really fast. And for me, that's not comfortable, but it's their movie and their film. So I adjust to what it is that they're doing. So things like that, I won't go back to the trailer. I'll stay on set mostly and then if I need to escape, you know, a conversation, you know, a side conversation, then I will just to try to stay focused.

43:44Like questions about Star Wars or something. Yeah, some fucking uber nerd. You're trying to get into being Enzo Ferrari and you've got to. One more thing. When they were on planet Voltan, was it true that the Caranthians' son burned their helmets off? Sean, of all the characters in all the Star Wars universe, what character do you think you would have liked to have played the most? Me? C-3PO. Luke Skywalker, of course. Yeah. Luke Skywalker? Yeah, of course. Well, with a lower octave, maybe. What's that? Hey, Tom. We want to go, something about the Tosche Station. We wanted to go back to the Tosche Station or something.

44:34Mark Hamill says it really whiny. It's such a funny line. Everybody makes fun of it now, but it was so great. Oh, right. You know what I'm talking about? I wanted to go back into town to pick up some power converters at the Tosche Station. I remember that. That's the first one, right? Yeah, that's the very first one. Adam, but last, we're done with the Star Wars but are are you so happy to not have to talk about it at length I know we did a little bit here but are you like are you to try to avoid like you know do you try to focus on moving forward no I I don't honestly not a lot of people talk to me about it when they do they mostly ask me even what you're asking is is different than what most people ask me so and the only bad the only thing about it is I I would talk at length uh often about uh some movie that you're trying to support and then you say one thing about star wars of uh and that's that becomes the thing there i'm like all right yeah what the fuck was the point of uh yeah yeah yeah do you miss shooting a series in brooklyn do you wish you could i do i do i do right do you really bet you'd love that yeah well because i'd be close to home and like yeah yeah i didn't realize how uh luxurious that was wait you said this already where are you from originally indiana well i was raised oh yeah oh look who just joined the podcast he said it we talked about it a few times.

45:47He was in a blackout trying to form a Star Wars question. You know, most people when they talk in the conversation, they don't spend all their time thinking about what I'm going to say when other people are talking. Just listen. That's how a conversation happens. So what's your feeling about... I think it's fascinating when people... Would you ever move to Indiana? You would never live in Los Angeles. It's just not your speed. Well, he did. No, yeah. It's not my... I enjoy the four seasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, I get it. God, that's been coming up so much lately with us about L.A. and New York, right?

46:23JB, we were talking about the other night. Yeah. And I lived in New York for over 20 years, and when I left, when my kids were, my older kids were little, I moved to L.A., and I was like, I don't know if I ever want to move to New York. And now these days, more and more, I'm like, I really want to move back to New York. I've been dying to live since I was 16. How come you, I would love. Why'd you stay? I would just love to because of the seasons, because of the... There are so many different industries that are centered there. So the people you talk to have something to say about so many things you know nothing about.

46:59It's not a company town like L.A. L.A. is such a company town. Right, right. It is boring in that way. We always say that if all your references are just about this... Hey, what you working on? yeah right that's what i feel when i come here but i didn't think i was like maybe i'm just because every time i come it's for something that is you know related to that so i'm like well i've actually never spent time here so i can't really say that but but it feels that way it feels like with new york there's just so much other shit going on that has nothing to do with with it's stimulating yeah you know everybody's working doing something that you don't know anything about it's it's very interesting which if you can it's also nice to get out of the city if you can because because you can just be sitting in your apartment and feel the energy of the place outside and feel like you need to be doing something, which is also like, can be exhausting.

47:45But no, I love New York. They all always, hopefully. Sorry, just put your guys to sleep a day. I have a question for all three of you, because you all three have kids. When you take your kid to a school for the first time, it's got to be like, I don't want to deal with the, I have to meet everybody. How are you? And then they are asking to ask you dumb questions. Like I'm asking you Adam dumb questions or whatever, you're going to find yourself trapped by teachers or other parents or whatever. How do you deal with all that? Because you're a known person? Yeah, you're in the public eye. Well, when my son was born, before he was in school, I didn't really go outside with him much because I didn't want people to bother him.

48:30And then the one time I went out with him in Italy, we were like, oh, it's the pandemic. Clearly no one's following us. And boom, they got us. and people took pictures of my kid. But then it was kind of to a point where I should go outside. I'm missing out on all this shit. Do you get hassled? Do you get hounded a lot by paparazzi and stuff like that? Not paparazzi necessarily, but people. And it's all good. It's fine. But when you're with your kid and you're trying to do something, and then now he's at the age where he's starting to track. Put it together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what does it look like for you?

49:10I mean, I do want to ask you a little bit about Ferrari because you talked about working with... I can't wait to see it. Working with Michael Mann, obviously. What was that process like for you? Because, I mean, it was pretty all-encompassing, I imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was prosthetics that we didn't realize were going to be as involved. We had no money. I mean, we had money, but not a lot of money for how Michael wanted to do it and not a lot of time. So it was very, you know, 17-hour days, sometimes a couple times 20-hour days in Modena, you know, where everything was happening, where everything happened for Enzo.

49:48It's like the barbershop he went to, the same, the grandson of the guy who actually was his barber, the actual factory, the, you know, the place where the crash was. Everything is very meticulous and authentic and incredibly thoroughly researched. And going to the factory and seeing the engines shipping in some of the actual cars that won the Mila Mia. Some of these$70 million Ferraris that he would just bring there just to get the sound and hook up nine mics to them and drive it through a tunnel. It's very thorough. Wow. Wow. You kind of get it. I mean, it sounds, you know, but at the same time, he's not, he's very researched, but is after something pretty abstract.

50:39You know, he's famously well-researched and very meticulous about clothes and sound and all of the details. But then is very good about making shit up in the moment. You know, you mentioned Miami Vice. I was a huge Miami Vice fan. You were? Of the show. Oh, God, yeah. Of the show? Yeah, because I was a young teen when that show first came. Did you dress like them? Oh, I bet he did. Dude, when he, when, and DJ, Don Johnson knows this. I've told him he knows this. He's a nice guy. When he shaved his head that, like, third season or whatever, went to a buzz cut, I did it. That's how into it I was.

51:17I thought it was so fucking cool. I'd never seen anything like it. And part of it was, A, Don is great. It was so cool. but the way that Michael Mann understood the making of the film, the balance of really cool setups, really cool shots, really making the most of it, setting the tone that he was able to set and with the music he was the first guy who made like really cool, it was almost like a lot of those shows were almost like music videos in the middle that had these incredible montages and it was just breathtaking to watch him do all that shit there's that really famous one where they have uh in the air tonight with phil collins that whole uh sequence yeah with the the camera set up on the side of the car you're watching the wheel and then it's going down the thing and then it's the reflection off the hood and then he goes to that phone booth that's uh miraculously at the end of a pier all by itself calls his ex-wife calls his ex-wife yeah great shit and you watch that i mean like that was like 1984 man and like just elevated shit yeah he's very into re-watching his movies now um he's very he's obsessed with internal life he really believes in it that that's that's cinematic and interesting enough and then when i watch like last of mohicans or heat or the last of mohicans in particular they don't have a lot of screen time to really fall in love but because they're you can tell they're so you know filled you know internally you totally buy it and he's really into that all of his notes are about internal stuff.

52:47Really? He's rare in that way. Not a lot of directors really talk about internal. No, shit. And that he trusts that the audience can kind of read your mind a little bit. Yeah, yeah. If you're really cooking inside, you don't need to say it. They'll lean forward and try to read you. Yeah, yeah. And is that about staging and the way that he shoots it, that to him in order to kind of reveal, to get into that inner life? Yeah, yeah. He's all about internal. All of his choices are about, like, there's this thing where he's obsessed with ties. there's a lot of famous stories about him like you know you know you know someone will say an offhanded comment i'm like oh that's a nice tie and he's like what'd you say you know and they're like i was just saying that he had a nice tie he's like okay we gotta go find another tie and i'll spend two hours finding the right tie and then you ask him he's like well if you're if you're looking at the tie then you're not looking at the actor's face and i want you to be like engrossed in what's going on in the he's like the blacks in this scene aren't right they need to be 50 like darker because then you can really get into the pupils you know it's all about like internal life he wants to see he which i think is you know that that's what makes those movies uh rewatchable and timeless is uh he there's a lot of respect that people will get it you know which fucking yeah it's all he's also got this he's also got he's got a like a a michael man three quarter shot of this like a handheld that's right behind an actor's ear and it just kind of creeps around a little bit and exposes just one of the eyes and it gets you inside an actor's head like or a character's head.

54:11He uses that quite a bit. I love that. I don't know if there's a camera invented yet that would be able to reveal any inner life on Jason. I don't think that would. No. I killed it. It's like a fucking dead, like a desert. It's like a dial tone inside. You hear like a wind going through an old outhouse out in the middle of the desert. That's the sound. Yeah, I fall asleep real easy, you know. You talked about driving, about Ferraris and stuff, so you got to drive. Had you ever driven a Ferrari before? No, no, no. Never driven a Ferrari. Do you have one now? No, no. Do you want one now? Would you ever get one?

54:50If they gave me one, sure, yeah. Are you like a motorcycle guy at all? Yeah, I have a couple motorcycles, yeah. You do? Of course you do. You've got children now, though, Adam. Yeah, I know, I know, but... Yeah, let's get rid of those. Do you guys know this, that I had a Ferrari for a few years? Is that right? Really? Yeah, I had a Ferrari. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did somebody fucking buy you one? It's a long story, but they did. But I was gifted a Ferrari. But it was one of those old, you know, a Ferrari, the 412. It kind of looks like a coupe. Do you remember that car? And at the beginning of Rain Man, Tom Cruise is driving that when he's going out to Palm Springs and he gets the phone call and he's got to turn around with the windmills in behind.

55:27It's a beautiful, beautiful car. You wanted to be Don Johnson and Tom Cruise. So you went ahead and you sold that Ferrari, the gift, to you and you turned a little profit, I guess, huh? I ended up selling it because, you know why? Because if you didn't drive it all the time, it would sit there and you would constantly have to, like, repair shit. And that was just the way it was. What a relatable story. So you just pocketed, what did you get, about$150 ,000 for it or something like that? No, no, because I paid so much. A lot of taxes. Hey, Adam, it's been such a pleasure. It does seem relatable, though.

56:03No, by the way, I don't know what you mean. Wait, when does Ferrari come out? Christmas Day. Christmas fucking day. Just in time. Okay? Like a gift from Jesus. Yeah, himself. Adam, I could just ask you, man, I'm just fascinated with, I'm such a fan of what you've done, man, and I'm just so happy for you, dude, and you do seem like such a genuinely good guy. Yeah, I love it. Honestly. Big talent crush, like I said. Yeah, big talent. And you know what, like Jason said, I wanted to say this before and Jason said when people run into you it's not like you're just like some there's a difference between being a celebrity and being an actor and you're such an actor and I mean that as such a compliment you're such an artist I hate using that term but it's true to you man and anyway I just wanted to say that I just think that you're that means a lot that really means that yeah man thank you you are amazing man I'm so glad that you joined us today thank you for doing this yeah no thank you for having me yeah thanks buddy I'll look you up when I get to Brooklyn and we'll No, he's good, man.

57:02He's good. He's super busy. You're going to love it. Thanks, Adam. Such a pleasure to meet you. Adam Driver, thanks, buddy. Thanks for taking your time. Thank you. Thanks for having me. All right. All right. See you. Bye. Wow. Right? Yeah. JB, I knew you knew him. Yeah, I'm surprised what didn't come up was some sort of tie-in to his last name and the Ferrari movie, right? Who's going to do that? One of these critics are going to do it, right? somebody writing a review or something a driver really drives this driving movie something like that they can go ahead and do that if they're going to do it it'll be probably a little bit sharper than that probably something like that anytime you said that word something like that

57:47he's really cool it's wild to meet him it's really cool he's a very very good dude yeah he seems very sort of like he's got like a generous spirit Like you said, he's an actor. He's an actor's actor. And he's an actor. Oh, yeah, he's an actor. He's... Calm. I was excited to have him. He's going to be with us for a long time. He's going to be one of our great actors until we're old and gray. Yeah, for sure. And I just, I don't know, there's something about I love the fact that, and I know, I don't feel like he did a good job of getting into it like this. The way that he just kept, he applied to July 18th and 17th, didn't get in, but then he went into the military, but then he came back to it.

58:26he went like he was like he went to LA and then a car broke down and he fucking went home but he came back to it like he just he was not gonna be this is what he wanted to do and he knew he had a gift for it you don't stop till you get it he's a serious person that also it's got a great sense of humor yeah he's really funny really really funny I didn't know first of all didn't know he was in the Marine Corps and that's why that's why I asked him He did like a TED talk where he talked about it. I saw that. Oh, really? I don't follow all the TED talks. Yeah, it's really... You're not up in your TED talk.

59:04I'm sure he's not the only actor that's been a Marine, but you don't hear about it a lot. I mean, you know, there's not a lot of... The whole time he was there, that's why I asked him if he was thinking about acting. What's that? Rob Riggle. Rob Riggle. That I knew for some reason. But yeah, you don't hear about a lot. So you didn't know he was in the Marines and what else is he? He was in the rain. And I like what he said about Michael Mann, too, about, you know, you always buy into it and everything that Adam does, I think. Oh, I thought you just skipped by your buy right there. Every part that Adam plays, you also buy into it.

59:41No, no, no. Will, you got anything? I was going to say, less sloppy and just, like, easy way out, like as if you're late for a bus, I'm going to say hearing what he said, Those were really words to live. Bye. Bye. Acceptable. We will allow. Bye. Smart. Yes.

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