"Amy Adams"

11:13Sean Hayes:Yeah, that's so smart. Yeah, Denis is amazing. He's so good. That guy is something else. He's so good. And he's lovely. He's like the nicest. He was on the podcast, yeah. Oh, isn't he just like so humble and funny? And you're like, yeah. Can you imagine he had to deal with Sean the whole podcast? It was just such a handful. I was dripping sweat. And then you did the, and then you, and you're like, oh.

11:34Will Arnett:And Dune, I'm like, Dune. Yeah. And then I was the idiot over here calling him Denny the whole time, which is Dennis. That's all right. I called him Dennis Villanueva, so there you go. Villanueva. Oh, no. Denise. Not to him. I joke to him because that's kind of how it's spelled

11:50Sean Hayes:in sort of the Colorado pronunciation. But I was going to say, Colorado, by way of, so I didn't know this, that you were born in Italy. I was born in Italy. Which part? Dad was in the Army. My dad was stationed in Vicenza and Aviano, Air Force Base, Vicenza Army Base. So I was born in that region, which is kind of in between Florence and Venice. Scotty, my husband Scotty, he's an Army brat too. He was born in Okinawa, Japan. Oh, wow. Yeah, so you guys are like born all over the world. Exactly. My husband was born in Rammstein, Germany. Oh, wow. I think it's called Rammstein, yeah. Also, so also, also parents in the...

12:29Sean Hayes:Also Air Force, yeah. Also Air Force. Yeah, his dad was Air Force, so... Oh, wow. That's cool.

12:34Will Arnett:Then how does it work then to get an American passport? Do you have to like sort of, when you come to this country, then what goes on with that? Well, her parents are American. So she's an American born to Brun. Yeah, you're naturalized. Because you're born on an American base. Exactly.

12:48Sean Hayes:Yeah. Could you run for president? I think I'm, I don't think that's in my interest. Okay. But I think technically I can. By the way, all the rules are out the window on that one, I think. Are there any rules to that anymore? I think I'd be, I'd be great. I bet you'd be very good. Yeah. I bet you'd be very good. I'd vote for you. There'd be a lot of singing in the White House, that's for sure. Wow. That would be lovely. So you're born overseas to Air Force Dad. Army Dad. Army Dad. Oh, sorry. My husband has an Air Force Dad. Sorry, I'm not that particular, but just in case he is, I want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

13:28Sean Hayes:Of course. Okay, so Army Dad. Yeah. And then you end, but you end up basically settling in Colorado. which you mentioned? Yes. And then where did the sort of the interest come from for performing? Because you're not just a great performer who does it at the highest level. You're also prolific. You've done so much. And so it seems like, where does that come from? Was your mom into that or was your dad into that? Were they encouraging? My dad was a performer. Oh, wow. He played, he had a band and sang, and he ended up being sort of like a one-man band, and he played in bars, and so we'd go watch him in bars.

14:11Wait, wait, wait.

14:12Will Arnett:With the cymbals tied to the leg and everything? It wasn't quite Dick Van Dyke, Mary Poppins. I love that. I love that. No, he had like all these synths, and he would like push buttons. Yeah. Bang your knees together for the cymbal hit. Yeah, pizza joints, just walking around, flapping his wings. Oh, I love that. They just turned him loose for someone's birthday coming out of the kitchen. I actually wish that's what he did. That would be great. That's so good. No, he would play, there's a foot synthesizer, right? So I don't know if you guys have ever seen those. Yeah. So he would wear fancy socks and play the foot synthesizer.

14:51Come on. No way. Kind of like Big, like the movie Big. No, it's a. No. It's not like that. It's literally looks sort of like, I guess this is what came to mind. You know in Goonies, that big piano that they play with the bones? Oh, with the skeleton bones, yeah. It's like that, but like black, blacker. I don't know. That's the best way. That's the visualization that came to mind. Is it kind of like the bottom half of an organ? Like when they push the feet with you? Yeah, exactly. So he pushes on these pedals with his feet while he plays. You saved it, Sean. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that.

15:20Thank you for that. I'm like, it's kind of like the Goonies skeleton.

15:22Sean Hayes:Sean's like, imagine if they made big and Goonies and you're like, like imagine if, to the Villeneuve made like goodies and bagelies.

15:30Will Arnett:And that person who's making it is watching Arrival. Wait, so Amy, this doesn't sound like an army dad. I'm just like, return to the goondocks. All of a sudden, you guys, I'm writing a script, just so you know. Right. So good.

15:43Sean Hayes:Yeah, you're right. Jason's right. It doesn't sound like a regular army dad.

15:47Will Arnett:He can also clean a weapon, too. I mean, this guy's multi-talented, we're saying. Yes. You're painting a great dynamic picture. Absolutely. Yeah? Yeah, but mostly played music. Wow, so then that's where you got your... So then did singing and dancing precede acting? Yes, yeah. Really? Absolutely. I never thought I was going to be an actress. I was such a musical theater kid and mostly trained in ballet, but I was so shy and I had paralyzing stage fright. Still do, but I make myself do it anyway. And every time I'm like, why do I do this to myself? Yeah, it's torture. But isn't stage fright more cute on a stage, doing singing, dancing, spotlight, microphone, It's not cute anywhere.

16:34Will Arnett:Isn't the fright more intense there than in front of a camera or no? Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, they still get nervous in front of a camera, but it's such an intimate thing and you have one person you can focus on. And you can screw up. You can screw up, exactly. Yeah, and then just do it again. Now, this is reminding me because I was doing a project. This is many, many, many, many, many years ago. Which project was this?

16:57Sean Hayes:Buckle up. Sorry, which project were you working on? I can't say. No, that's all right. We'll applaud. Go ahead. And the producers were like, you should reach out to Amy Adams for this project. And I was like, well, I don't know Amy Adams. I'm a big fan, but I don't know. No, just do it. She knows you're going to call. So I called you. I don't know if you remember this. I called you and you picked up and you go, hello. And I go, hi, Amy, it's Sean Hayes. Oh, I'm in the White House right now in the bathroom. Can I call you back? You remember this? I was at the White House for Julie and Julia. Oh, my God.

17:28And that's when I was like, wait, the time I call you, you're in the bathroom at the White House? Yes, I was in the bathroom at the White House. That is crazy. Can we talk later? So that was the last time you talked to her? Yeah, that was the last time I talked to Amy. How have you been since? You know, just hanging out. Wait, wait. So Amy— Having a kid.

17:44Sean Hayes:What I want to know—oh, yeah, we're going to get into that. But what I want to know is, you didn't think you would have a career as an actor. So, and your dad's doing all these, playing the one-man band in the bars and stuff. How do you go from that to, what's your first acting gig, and how did that happen from Colorado? Well, I started dancing. That was sort of my way into performing, which was good because I could be with a group of people. For me, it's very much about a singular focus. So always being in the chorus was really fun because you got to feed off of everybody else and just become a part of a group, you know?

18:17Yeah, right. And I love that. But so yeah, I got into dancing, which led me after high school. I was going to say the reason I got into all of it is because I was bad at math because I wanted to be a doctor. So I was like. Really? Really. What kind of doctor? Still wish I could have been a doctor. I think I wanted to work in emergency medicine. I'm really good in a crisis. Really? Yeah.

18:40Will Arnett:And you'd be okay with like blood and gore and like somebody in a lot of pain and trauma you'd be okay with? Yeah. Yeah. I really, I want to like, I have this fantasy that when I retire from acting, I'm going to be one of the seniors that volunteers down at Cedars. I was like, I just kind of have the same thing. Do you? I kind of want to, yeah. Like, I want to just go like help people out. Like what's going on? Well, you're going to be there anyway. So you might as well. You've got your own parking spot. It's a hop, skip and jump. Wait, that's so interesting. Are you good? So, so, cause some people are like flight instead of fight during emergencies, right?

19:15They're like, I can't deal with this. And they run away. whereas like there's this one time when I was driving home from a taping of Will and Grace and a guy was lying in the middle of the street

19:24Sean Hayes:this is a sitcom so funny so many misunderstandings why don't they make them

19:29Will Arnett:they don't make them no more they're not like that

19:32Sean Hayes:not with the laughs and this one thinks this and the other one thinks this and they have a misunderstanding

19:42Sean Hayes:they have a misunderstanding the one door shuts

19:44Will Arnett:the other one opens the door What nonsense is in one bed? Everybody's gay. So funny.

19:52Will Arnett:Sorry, Amy. Sorry about that, Amy. No, I love it. I love it. You guys are great. I'm like sometimes way too earnest, so I appreciate you guys bringing humor in. We're not. No, don't worry about it. We should learn from you. No, exactly. No, so I was driving home from one of the tapings, and there's this guy lying in the middle of the street, and I was like, what? And the two cars ahead of me were just driving around him. I was like, but this guy's lying in the middle of the street That was me and Will On the gas Smart Just missed his head And so I pull over as somebody would do And then Just as I open the door to my car I'm like, oh, is this one of those things This setup where I get out, I help the guy And then somebody takes my car or whatever Or, you know, jumps me or whatever it is So So then...

20:46Will Arnett:I'd love to see you get taken over by that guy and the other dude that's hiding behind the mailbox. And them just taking your car and your clothes. By the way... And just leaving you...

20:59Sean Hayes:Them tying you up and them not understanding how much you're enjoying it. And I'm just going, no, stop. No, ouch. You don't want these clothes?

21:11Will Arnett:You don't want these.

21:23No, wait.

21:27How am I going to get home naked? You'll figure it out. Okay. That's amazing. All right, so. Oh, my God.

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25:45Will Arnett:And now back to the show. All right, so... So you're about to get out of the car. You think it might be a thing. But then I was like, but the guy could see us in real pain. God, this is a long way to go once you get to the question. But I, so I get out and the guy just got shot. The guy was shot. Oh, yeah. And so I did take off my shirt and I put, I didn't know what I was doing, like to your point, like emergencies, like, you know, fight or flight. So I was like, I don't know, I'm going to do this. So nobody was around. And so I took my shirt off. I put it on the bullet wound on his stomach. Just to hold it over for some pressure.

26:22Will Arnett:Not a turning hit or anything. Correct. Well, yeah, a makeshift turning hit. And so I'm pulling out and I'm dialing 911 on my phone. Meanwhile, other people have heard it and now are starting to come out of their houses, right? And so they already called too. You're starting to feel self-conscious about being topless? A little bit. A little bit. Were you actually topless?

26:42Sean Hayes:I was, yeah, yeah. You wore a t-shirt?

26:43Will Arnett:Yeah. And so I'm again. Not everyone wears an undershirt, granddad. Yeah. Go ahead. And so, yeah, so the guy, I don't know. So finally the ambulance came and everything. And he lived and he was okay. Everything was fine. He got the help he needed. And, but, but, and of course the ambulance guy was like, are you, Sean? No. With my hand on his stomach. I was like, yeah. But anyway, the point is. Still topless. Yeah, still topless. So, and then we exchanged numbers. No, I'm kidding. Then, but the point is, yes, emergencies, I attack them. I don't run from them usually. Yeah, I get very focused. Like everything becomes very focused in an emergency.

27:20I'm sorry.

27:20Sean Hayes:Was that whole story about the time that you saved the dude's life? Yeah. Yeah, because most people drive.

27:26Will Arnett:He runs into a fire instead of away from a fire. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I've come across a couple of scenes where we've been sort of the first people on the scene. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Care to share? Like where? We were in Santa Monica and coming out of our favorite restaurant. And I was with my dad. And my dad is also very much like that, thankfully. And these people were screaming and a guy was walking and they're yelling he's dying. And my husband's like, that's blood. I didn't think. I was like, Darren, you stay here with our daughter. We ran over and he'd been stabbed in the neck.

28:02Oh, gosh. Yeah. So he was bleeding and his friends were freaking out. So luckily we were going to the beach. We grabbed towels. My dad has been on lots of scenes. I guess he attracts them as well and applied pressure. And I'm sitting there somehow going, you need to calm your pulse rate. Take a deep breath.

28:18Sean Hayes:Wow. I literally was just so focused. I was like, the more you struggle, the faster you're going to bleed. just lay down. Let's elevate this. We were like, just, and yeah. And then I ran into him a year later. A guy walks up to me in the restaurant. He's like, I heard a story that you and your dad were on the scene of a guy getting stabbed. And I was like, yeah, yeah. That's so funny. You heard that story. And he went like that. And I was like, oh my God, it's you. And it was him. Yeah. And it was him. And he was like all teary and he had his son with him. And yeah, it was so crazy. Did he tell you what the situation was under which the reason that he got stabbed?

28:53I mean, as far as I could make out, it was they had run into an old college friend and had some drinks and then went to the liquor store. They were going to go back to someone's house and he just freaked out. But I don't know kind of what the whole story is. Wow, wow, wow.

29:09Will Arnett:That's crazy. Yeah. Would have been great if you and your dad started singing him a little song to calm him down. Oh, yeah, like a one-man. Yeah. He had like a little pocket trombone. or something. Can you imagine I just start singing like Giselle?

29:24Sean Hayes:Well, your dad's and you're dancing. I'm like, stay away. Don't rest are dark.

29:29Will Arnett:That's calming, you know?

29:30Sean Hayes:That is calming. Just start singing Mary Poppins. That would have been nice. Wow, you really would have been great in an emergency room. This is, this is. I'm not that smart, but I'm, I'm that focused, so. You're a lot smarter than we are, so. No, I don't think so. Have you ever played, have you ever played a medical person? You know, I did in Dr. Vegas. I played Rob Lowe's...

29:55Will Arnett:Wait a second. All right. I need to see this. Yeah, me too. And so I went and... What year did we make this? 2001. I actually, it's a good story. I was filming and they sent me home and I was mad because I was like, of course, the one project where you want to stay where they're filming in Vegas when I was like, you know, 30. and when I went home I got the Junebug audition and then was filming Junebug when they reduced my role from to recurring on Dr. Vegas and I was like I'm good they're like you're just gonna leave I'm like yeah I'm good I'm all set I just did an indie I'm set

30:44Sean Hayes:I'm just gonna go ahead and get an Academy Award nomination over here so I'm good you want to reduce it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're all sad. Like, I had no idea. I just was like, anyway, it's a long story, but I did a shadow at Emergency Room Doctor. For that part, yeah. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:00Will Arnett:That's got to be fascinating. Did you not want to see? Did you see some things you didn't want to see? I think for me, I was just fascinated with the stories that kind of really helped me put things into perspective. I know, I'm so earnest. I told you guys. I just was so grateful and invested in people's personal stories. It's just, I was you know I'm a frequent flyer at the ER in Los Angeles

31:23Sean Hayes:you want to give a shout out to Cedars yeah Cedars yeah and I was lying there waiting to get

31:29Will Arnett:free extra couple of punches on your punch card you get to your bonus earlier for the cafeteria Sean's nickname is Paddles by the way this is true because I get AFib and they zap my heart back anyway so but one time I was in there this was like two years ago and the guy some guy OD'd on drugs and they were trying to revive him and he died right next to me in the room right next to me it's so crazy to witness all of that yeah i willie and i play golf with dr gary shulman he does a er doctor and the the things that he knows how to do and he could save any life you put in front of him i think it's incredible it's yeah it's really amazing and he's got a great short game too guys you can get up and down from anywhere really by the way let's be clear he's

32:13Sean Hayes:He's got a great game all around. He's middle of the fairway.

32:15Will Arnett:Long game, yeah. I never see him in trouble. You never see him looking for a ball. Never. You want him as your teammate.

32:22Sean Hayes:Yeah, Dr. Gary's been playing with the same ball for three years, definitely. Anyway, let's not... He's a nice man. Shout out to Dr. Gary. You know, so, Amy, you've done so many things, but so many different kinds of roles, like comedy, drama, sci-fi.

32:41Will Arnett:The one I've seen the most is Enchantment. Enchanted? Or Enchanted. You nailed it. Enchanted, yeah. I never saw Enchanted because it doesn't exist. Yeah, I mean, having two girls, you met both of them. Yeah, how are they doing? They must be. They're doing great. Thanks, yeah. They're not watching it anymore. Yeah, but I mean, I knew that album backwards and forwards. Loved it. Thank you, and I'm sorry. Yeah, no, no, no. It was fantastic. But I've seen them all, but that one a lot. I bet, yeah. Yeah, very good. Thank you.

33:12Sean Hayes:Do you have like a genre that you like doing more than, because you kind of, like I said, you've done it all. Like you do, you work in comedy, you work in drama, you work in sci-fi. Like is there one sort of lane that you feel more comfortable in or do you just kind of, each one is just like a new opportunity to have fun and you don't really think about it? Yeah, I think each one's a new opportunity. I like working in different genres because it requires like a different approach to tone and it's a challenge. But I mean, I'm most comfortable in musical theater, even at 51. If someone's like, you need to go play Belle, I'd be like, got it.

33:50That's where my spirit lives, my inner child. Do you want to do more of it? I do. I did theater recently in London, and I really do want to do more of it. But I think I'm so tired all the time. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. It's so much work. I have so much respect for everybody who works on stage because doing that eight shows a week is really, really grueling. And so I'd have to really consider it. Maybe when my daughter is... Gets a little older. Gets a little old, when she's out of the house because I really want to be present for her. How old is she? She's going to be 16 next Friday. Oh, wow. Yeah.

34:24Will Arnett:That's amazing, sweet 16. How are those driving lessons going? She has not started them yet. No, I... You haven't taken her out in your car and just like in an open parking lot and just put her in the seat? Not yet. No. Oh, my God. I am definitely, she has absolutely. No interest. No, she has interest. But she wants to get through finals before she starts studying for her permits test because she, yeah, she likes to. Disciplined. That's disciplined. Yeah, but this generation, though, is because of Uber. There's just, there's no real thirst. I didn't think of that. I mean, when we were kids, remember?

35:01Will Arnett:The day. The morning you turn 16, you're at the DMV.

35:05Sean Hayes:No, my guys did. Arch got it immediately, but Abe's been kind of putting, well, he can only get his lures because he's not 16 yet. You know what I thought would never happen, though, is that because Jason's right, when you turn 16, you're like, it signifies independence driving, right? Freedom. But now, and I thought, well, that will never go away, but with Waymo self-driving cars and Uber and stuff, maybe it's not a thing anymore. I don't know with kids.

35:28Will Arnett:Yeah, but it is nice to be able to just like walk outside your house and climb into your car and go. It is. I think she's really going to love that sensation when she sort of gets into it. But I respect I'm letting her.

35:41Sean Hayes:Are you still in driving her around mode or is she leaning on the oobs like everybody? A little of both. I mean, we're a little more cautious with Ubers as long as she's with friends and stuff like that. But she loves a Waymo. That's her thing. Yeah. We always say, it's a known thing, Amy, that Jason has the personality of a Waymo driver. and that's just kind of known around the office here. That's amazing. Just around the office here. A Waymo driver.

36:11Will Arnett:That's enough, Sean. That's good.

36:15Sean Hayes:So funny. By the way, I was going to say this. Sean, I think you know this, and you're going to freak out again on Amy. You know she just wrapped the new Star Wars, right? What do you mean? No way. The one with Ryan Gosling? Yeah. Wait, I was on that set. Okay, cool. Oh, amazing. Yeah, Sean Levy asked us to come visit, and we visited for like a day. What if you found out that Amy knew you were coming in? She's like, this guy fucking called me once. I was in the toilet at the White House. This guy won't leave me alone. I had a very small part. Yeah. You did? Wait, are you a fan or no? Oh, my gosh, yeah.

36:54Yeah, huge. Absolutely. By the way, Tatooine. I mean, amazing. I have my Tatooine hat on today. I love it. I have my Tatooine hat on. Do you go to May the 4th Disney events at Disney? Because I've always wanted to go. Maybe next year you and I will figure it out. Oh my God, I would love it. Go to May the 4th. Leave the kids at home. Am I right? You're right.

37:16Sean Hayes:I hate the May the 4th be with you because that's my birthday and I feel like they took it over. You're so lucky. No, I'm not. They took it over. Everybody's like, May the 4th. I'm like, enough! Wait, did you get to hold all the props and whatever and all the fantasy stuff. I love that. Yes. I love that. Went to the creature shop twice. Yeah, I went to the creature shop too. Isn't that wild? So cool. Careful, Sean. Watch the paddles. I saw the new... I saw the new, you know, their version of R2-D2 and the new one, which I couldn't post. We're not allowed to post.

37:47Will Arnett:Is he real? We just racked focus. There's Scotty in the back just heating up the paddles. We're rubbing them together. Getting them ready. Oh, he's talking about the creature shop. Charge! Wasn't that, but, and then the guy, I met the guy who created BB-8. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. It's so cool. It's wild. I mean, I'll talk about this, I'm sure, down the road, but like, I don't know what I'm allowed to talk about, but I was so nervous the first day of working, like I forgot how to act. I'm sure Sean Levy's like, Amy, are you okay? And I'm like, no, I'm just not okay. No, just because of all the stuff that was around you and like, No, just like, I'm on a Star Wars set.

38:23And I like, I grew up on this. This is like, I have to now get out of my like dorky fangirl place and go into like professional actress and like combining the two was really hard. So I had to like.

38:37Will Arnett:Could you feel it? Was it palpable? I mean, were the sets big? Was the camera gear like all? It's so cool, you guys. It's just so cool. I'm like not allowed to talk about anything, of course, but I can tell you it's so cool. And the kid in it is so great. I just... What about, like, was there a lot of, like, were the sets real? Were the weapons real? Or was it all, like, sort of green screens and, you know? It's a mix, but it's... A mix, yeah. It was... It's enough to, like, get the feels. You know what I mean? And then you got the great Sean Levy there. Just, like, he's so infectious with his energy and enthusiasm and his kindness.

39:17And speaking of Arrival, he was one of the producers on Arrival. He was? Yeah, I worked with him at night at the museum. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah.

39:26Sean Hayes:So you do the Star Wars, and then you got another, you got a sci-fi film coming out later this year that you did with our buddy Taika. What's that? Oh, yeah, yeah. I was like, I do? I was like, yes, yes. Yeah, we did that like over two years ago now, so yeah. Whoa. Are you a sci-fi fan? I do like sci-fi, yeah. There's such a, you have like so like Star Wars-y sci-fi, like this is like seems to be the genre that you're very comfortable in. Superman. Oh, I love it. I love it.

39:51Will Arnett:Yeah. But she's funny as hell too and can sing and dance and let's not, we haven't even gotten to the drama part of it all. I mean. I know. I do. I do love a good drama. Do you want to leave any for anybody else? Like what's going on? I love a good drama. I mean. How great were you in Doubt? I saw that play and I was like, wow, this play's one of the best plays and then the movie with you and Meryl Streep and. How good are Meryl and Phillip in that? Yeah. Getting to sit through the rehearsals with them was literally, it's my entire actor training. Yeah, I'm sure. I never went to college or conservatory.

40:24So I really feel like that was how I learned how to act. And everybody showed up on set off book probably. Nobody has side, right? Everybody just knows their stuff. Oh, yeah. By that time, we really knew it. Yeah. I mean, it's Meryl.

40:37Sean Hayes:Was it a lot of rehearsal for that film? More than usual? I would say so, yeah. Yeah. It was a while ago. It was amazing.

40:47Will Arnett:So then, wait, did you just say that you did not go to drama school? I did not, no. No? And so what would you attribute your talent to? Was it just a - A lonely childhood.

40:59Sean Hayes:Yeah, how'd you get so talented? A lonely childhood.

41:03Will Arnett:Was it just like an innate sense of what would be - I don't know. Honestly, Jason, I really don't know. I think I've always just been, I read a lot and I've always been plugged into characters and how and why and what motivates them and all of that. and I think it just sort of started translating into acting. I never, I honestly, I also, when I moved to LA, I started working with an acting coach later on after I'd started working. And that was really helpful because she helped sort of ground me a bit more instead of being very big. So that was good. Well, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, because theater is sort of at odds with your incredible level of subtlety when you're doing on-camera work.

41:45Will Arnett:You know, I mean, it's just masterful how little you have the discipline to do, which, you know, if you did that on stage, the people in the front row would be able to read it, but that'd be about it, you know, which I mean, it's great. Thank you. But oftentimes you'll see theater actors that are sometimes maybe just a little bit bigger on screen. Right. But you do not suffer that at all. It's really, really impressive. Well, I absolutely love people's inner life. Like if I could know what people were thinking at all times, I'd be so happy. Yeah, that's what I love about watching your performance.

42:19Will Arnett:It's like, yeah, I lean in and I try to read your mind. You know, there's stuff going on inside.

42:24Sean Hayes:I told you guys you got to watch this new doc that's coming out later this year. I was telling Shawnee about it. It's called, it's based on the podcast, that really popular podcast, the telepathy tapes about the nonverbal. There's a doc. I just saw a screening of the doc. Is it good? It's unbelievable. Wait, what is it? Dude, this is a really popular podcast. Yeah. And called the telepathy tapes. And they made a doc at the same time. And it's coming out later this year. And it's unbelievable. I had goosebumps the entire time watching it, talking about people who can talk. It was real popular at the same time, the Richard Simmons podcast.

42:59Sean Hayes:Sean, stop mentioning the Richard Simmons. Every time I mention this, Sean brings up the Richard Simmons podcast. I swear to God. Sean, why? How would that be? Leave it.

43:11Will Arnett:An easy reference for everyone. Yeah, just let it stand on its own. Let it stand on its own.

43:16Sean Hayes:Why do you have to mention the fucking Richard Simmons podcast every time? No, because at that time, it was years and years ago, those were the two most popular.

43:24Will Arnett:I've never heard of a Richard Simmons podcast. Oh, God, you would love it. It's so wild. Oh, here we go. You'd love it.

43:30Sean Hayes:For fucking fuck's sake, man.

43:35Will Arnett:Now, wait, Willie, the reason that you were seeing this earlier than when it's coming out is because that makes me think maybe we're going to have somebody from it on the podcast coming up. Did you get a little early link or something? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's a guest coming.

43:48Sean Hayes:Look at you putting some stuff together. I used to be a cop. I know. Look at you. Honestly, you guys, it's so fascinating. And Amy, talking about people understanding what other people are thinking and stuff. It is a fucking mind blow. Did you listen to that, Amy? Did you listen to that podcast? Yeah, I did, actually. I listened to... I didn't get towards the end of the telepathy. It started to get... I don't want to... You know, it started to get a little like, it twisted a bit. I don't want to give any spoilers. Yeah, but it's, I found it, I mean, it was just stunning. And I'd listen to the podcast too.

44:19Sean Hayes:But anyway, yeah, yeah. I don't know how we got here, but boy, it's good. It's really good. But what was your, so this is what I was going to say. What was your first pro gig as an actor? Your first paying job? Like exclusively as an actor or just as a dancer? As an actor. As an actor, actor, what was your first? After actor, I did a commercial for Omaha National Bank. Okay. Where I lip synced. So I guess it's, I mean, I lip synced to Summer Loving, but turned into Summer Banking. No, no. Had me a blast.

45:00Will Arnett:Sure.

45:01Sean Hayes:Summer Banking. Had me a blast. Had me a blast. Boom, boom. Wow. But then when I started, I was cast in Drop Dead Gorgeous out of Minnesota. So that was like my first thing. First thing. And then what was your first? What was your first? Did you do like a lot of? Because I know obviously you did Dr. Vegas. We all know that. We're talking about Rob Lowe. I still call him Dr. Vegas. Yeah. What was your first? Did you start doing guest spots on shows? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did all the guest spots. You did? I was uncharmed. I was on Buffy. I was on that 70s show. Yeah. West Wing. Oh, wow. We'll be right back.

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47:42Will Arnett:What was the point when you figured that you might be safe, you might not need to have to study something else or have a second job? Or when did it seem that you could make a living?

47:58I think it was after Enchanted. Yeah, because that was a big movie, yeah. It's funny because by the time Enchanted came out, I'd been nominated, but I still didn't see that as like anything that cemented me as secure. I just saw that as like an amazing one-off.

48:16Will Arnett:Yeah. But having the box office of Enchanted, right? That's a different thing with that, isn't it? And I also think it was like the most confident at that point I'd ever been in a role because even when I read the script, and I am not somebody who says this. I looked at my husband and went, I don't know who else you're going to get for this. Like, I just was like, no, no, no, no. I just, and I honestly, I'm not that person. I would cast someone else in every role I've done. Like, I'm not competitive like that. But I read that one and was like, well, this is mine. So just because I felt like I really understood that world and the duality of her.

48:56Sean Hayes:But then you also do like, then you go on to do a couple of films with David O. Russell, some gritty films. You do The Fighter, which is super gritty and such a great film. Yeah, David, that was huge because David really, I say take a chance, but no one really saw me that way. And then there was something about an interaction he had with me that kind of was like, wait. You got in his face about like a valet ticket or something? You're terrifying. No. No, I think he just stabbed. I was here first. Yeah, something like that. Wait, was David, did you stab David O. Russell in the neck and then you and your dad saved him?

49:32Sean Hayes:Is that what happened? No, it was not David O. Russell. So you were surprised when David called you with that? Yeah. Yeah, I was. I was, I was like to say, I have like such memories of where I was when things happened that were huge for me. And that was, I was in Ireland filming Leap Year, like this romantic comedy, which helped me learn that I was not good at romantic comedy, though I love the film. I just was like, there are people who are really good at this and I don't think that's me. I don't think.

50:00Will Arnett:There's nothing you're not good at. Yeah, come on. No, it's just, I'm too earnest. Like I want to turn it into like Wuthering Heights and like, I just don't have that turn of phrase that some people are so good at. I'm just so earnest. It's so irritating. I've learned to accept it. What about, did your eyes light up like mine would if I got a call from Paul Thomas Anderson. Like, The Master's one of my favorite, favorite films ever. The Master was great. Paul is one of those people that I will forever want to impress. It doesn't matter what I'm doing, what I'm saying, a text. I am just, I just love him so much.

50:38Just as a person, too.

50:40Will Arnett:Agreed. Yeah. I actually met him at a house party. Yeah. And I kind of ran the riot act because he had, it's a lot. I don't want to get Paul in trouble, but he had. He took the last piece of pizza. He took the last piece of pizza. No, no, there was a mutual friend that was a little drunk and acting a little silly and he was encouraging it, you know, having fun. And I was like, that is highly irresponsible. Now, to be fair, I was 10 weeks pregnant. And I was not telling anybody. So I was agitated. And then I looked at Darren and I was like, I can't believe I just yelled at like my favorite filmmaker of all time.

51:17I'm like, I'm never going to get to work with him. I don't know what I've done. But I was so like. But that's what it took. And then I got Cass. He's like, who can yell at Philip Seymour Hoffman? He's like. Who can be stern?

51:28Will Arnett:Who's that girl? Wow. I don't know if that's why he called me, but. Oh, just loved it. He's so great. Yeah, I still, anytime I hear from Paul, I'm excited. But yeah, he's wonderful.

51:39Sean Hayes:So you do that. I mean, and then you go, and then you jump into the, like, the DC world, world, the Zack Snyder-y sort of Superman, like that whole world. Yeah. It's amazing. You just have all these like different like really distinct lanes and stuff that you do totally so different. Did you feel, when you get that call, you're like, yeah, yeah, this is something that I'm into. No, again, I'm just super dorky and loved Superman. So I was like, I get to play Lois. I was just I grew up loving Superman. Like I'm, I really am like meant for Comic-Con like to go down there in costume. Like, that's, I'm dorky.

52:17Yeah, I love it. I love dorky. Darren's a dorky. You've met my husband.

52:21Sean Hayes:We're both just dorky earnest people. Are you big Halloween? Are you Halloween people? Um, yes.

52:28Will Arnett:Sure you are. You bop around with Melissa and Ben and you guys get all dolled up and do your thing. Well, that's different. That was our movie club thing. Right. But it's still, you guys, yeah, these guys, they'd watch a movie. Oh, I do love a dress up. I love a theme party. I'm that girl. Right, sure. I have to like pull myself back if someone says theme party. Darren's like, Amy, you don't have to be, you can just have a suggestion of. Ugly Christmas sweater party. Yeah, it'd sign you up, right? Yeah. I went to a 70s birthday party a few months ago. I already had a dress in 1970s. Oh, I remember that.

52:59And I was like, oh, we have to really go do it. And then you go, it's kind of fun. Yeah.

53:04Sean Hayes:Well, luckily, Sean, you didn't have to buy a costume for that, right? You just went into your wardrobe. Yeah, Sean, what'd you put together for that? Yeah. I put, I think my photos, Hot shorts? No, I put bell-bottom pants, a big wig, you know, some gold chains and some, you know, open... Yeah, Anaboa. Cool. There you go. Done. All right, thank you. It's got to get dressed too? Yeah, we both did. Let me see if I can find a picture. Yeah, sure. I used to get dressed up for auditions, guys. Like, I would go in in costume, right? Did you really? Yeah, I didn't quite... And then, like, other girls would be coming out looking absolutely beautiful, and I would be like, oh, I guess...

53:41I guess I look like I want it too much, which is probably why it didn't work in the beginning. I hadn't sort of cracked the code of neutrality. I was like, it's me.

53:50Sean Hayes:I don't know. I'm her. I feel like you did everything. I have the pants. I feel like you did everything really, I think you did everything pretty damn well.

53:59Will Arnett:And then now. Your daughter doesn't, does your daughter seem like she is attracted to maybe going that direction too or no? Not in performing and only recently on the set of Star Wars, on our way to the Creature Shop, she looked at me and said, Mom, do you think I could find a career in film? Oh, wow. And I said, yeah, absolutely. And did you guys start to talk about different parts of it? Yeah, so we're constantly talking about different... She's like, because I love travel. I love meeting new people. I like every day being different. And this is really like the best suited job for everything I want my life to look like.

54:37So, yeah, so she kind of switched her motivation. She's still like really interested in psychology, like which I love. So she and I are constantly talking about human behavior, which is fun with a 16-year-old. But it actually is. She's very intuitive and insightful. Yeah.

54:55Will Arnett:Yeah. So we'll see. So isn't it neat how the conversations change over years? Like, you know, like as much as you might miss the toddler age, it's like, well, you couldn't really talk about, you know, global issues. that now you can get their take on that. Yeah, because they're so involved now.

55:11Sean Hayes:Yeah. And they get so much information thrown at them too. I want to take her over to the Groundlings to take a class because she's really quick-witted and mean. And I'm like, hey, you'll be great in comedy. We like that. She's not a mean person, but her wit is so biting. Biting and sarcastic. My husband's like, ow. And I just think when she nails me, I laugh so hard. it's really funny. I love it. It's fun. It's fun. Speaking of psychological, you've got a psychological thriller series on Apple TV. I do. You're so good at bringing it back, Will. I know. I appreciate that. Thank you. By the way, thank you.

55:52Sean Hayes:I appreciate that. That's a skill. Thank you, Amy. You've been nominated in the group. In the group. Group host. Sean got singled out. Sean one time got singled out as best host, interviewer. Of a podcast. Of a podcast.

56:06Will Arnett:He's part of a threesome. Yeah. They singled him out. Yeah. He did not win. I did not win, yeah. Let me finish. Yeah. It's because I was held down by two others.

56:15Sean Hayes:But I would say he's sloppy at best.

56:21Will Arnett:Contributive. Oh, there they are. There's Sean Scottie. It's the 70s. Yeah, nice. Oh, that's good. I like you have hard copies too, guys. Those are hard copies. Scottie had them.

56:31Sean Hayes:That'd be beautiful. So let's talk about Kate Fier for a little bit. You and Javier Bardem, I mean, sick. What a cast. Patrick Wilson. Yeah, that's me. My doppelganger. Yeah, I was going to say you sort of look like his brother. Like you could be his brother. We've taken selfies before and posted it. You guys could do,

56:46Will Arnett:now, I was actually, I'm very cultured, so I was watching PBS great performances last night. And there was Patrick Wilson doing Rodgers and Hammerstein. Which one? He's so good, you guys. Like a medley of things. Along with a few other actors. Sean, let's give us the number.

57:02Sean Hayes:Five, six, seven, eight. Oh, God, there's a billion.

57:05Will Arnett:There's a billion, Rodgers. But did you and Patrick ever break out into song at all during some of the setups? Okay. So he's a little bit more disciplined than I am when it comes to the singing, probably because he does it professionally and I do it because I just love it and it's fun. So the first time he did sing, I thought I was being punked because we were talking about some of our favorite concerts we've seen. and I said, you know, oh, I went and saw the Indigo Girls in Red Rocks like 1992, 93. And I just, it was such a good concert. He's like, I love the Indigo Girls. And I was like, you don't love the Indigo.

57:45And he started singing like a deep cut from one of the albums. And we harmonized for a bit. And I was like -

57:52Will Arnett:And singing like a songbird, right? Guys. Yeah, he's got skills. I was like, we're going to be best friends. We're going to have so much fun. We like the same thing. Put your number in my phone right now. we like the same things it was a lot

58:05Sean Hayes:but just yeah I mean all of us just talking about it I feel like the closer we are to fine you know what I mean yes exactly that's a deep cut but yes Cape Fear Patrick's great Javier's great I mean yeah this is what a sick cast for it being so like challenging and difficult like content wise and sort of the physicality it was so much fun and shot in Atlanta I shot with a lot of your crew from Ozark, I believe.

58:35Will Arnett:Yeah. They recovered. They were able to recover. Amanda Marsalis, I think, directed an episode or two, yeah? She did, too, yeah. I just worked with her. She's lovely. Oh, we like Amanda.

58:45Sean Hayes:She's really nice. I like her. Yeah, she was great.

58:48Will Arnett:No, I can't wait to see that show. I've watched the trailer a couple of times. It looks fantastic. It does look like a lot of night shoots, which, you know, I'd have an issue with. You know, there's a lot of night shoots. Or is it more splits? Yeah, maybe we can just tent. Honestly, it was challenging. We couldn't block shoot because we had a lot of directors. So it was challenging. So we could never block shoot. So it was a lot. It wasn't. So for Tracy, Jay or Amy, explain what block shooting means. Yeah. Jason, you do it. Yeah. Yeah. You shoot out like if all the scenes that take place in this one particular location, no matter what episode they're in, we're going to shoot them all in a row so that we never have to come back to this location.

59:31So you can knock out that location. It's cheaper for budgetary reasons.

59:34Will Arnett:Right, right. Yeah, when I did Sharp Objects, we did a lot of block shooting, and that was nice. Another great project. I mean, you can go on and on. I know, it's amazing. Your resume's very vocal. Amy, okay. I'm doing okay. Thank you, Jason.

59:46Sean Hayes:You are at the tip top of what you do. You are so, so good. You guys are so sweet. You've never, and we talk about, there are very few people. You're one of those people. And we talk, John Goodman, we hold up as the gold center I always do. of never a bad performance, no matter what you do, never a bad performance. There's still time. No, no, Amy, you're so good. You're so talented.

1:00:09Will Arnett:Well, do you allow yourself to, this is a tough question to answer, but do you, do you have to allow yourself to? We've had more of our time than we were allowed,

1:00:15Sean Hayes:but go ahead.

1:00:16Will Arnett:Oh, shit, we are over. Sorry, you can cut a lot of my stuff out. You guys are all kidding. No, no, no, we're gonna let you go. But do you allow yourself to sort of like say, hey, you know, I've done all right and I'm like only halfway done And I thought maybe I was just going to, you know, kind of just sing and dance in front of mom and dad. Don't say halfway.

1:00:34Sean Hayes:That's because she's going to be exhausted.

1:00:36Will Arnett:No, but I mean, it's really, really impressive what you've done and what you will continue to do. And you're still ascendant. And I'm just, it's amazing. Well, you know, I adore you and I'm just grateful. Like, I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm just grateful. I think like I'm 51 now and I think being in my 50s is the greatest. I'm so grounded and I just feel grateful and kind of open to whatever comes and grateful for what I've been able to do. And it's a great time of reflection. It shows. And Jason, I will say, I think this is the longest I've ever talked to you because you're normally ducking out of parties.

1:01:12I know.

1:01:13Sean Hayes:Oh, wow. That doesn't sound like it. Yeah, let's get into that. So I'm so excited to get to talk to you.

1:01:17Will Arnett:It's something both these boys know. You know, I go out and then it's time to go home. No, you're smart. Yeah, it's time to get into bed. Like Jay always says, there's a window of energy. And once that energy is up, that's it. That's smart. Well, I'm an introvert and also I don't drink anymore. And so it's like it's usually the last two hours at the party, you got to have a little in you. Otherwise, it's the stuff that's being talked about is just not that interesting. Yeah. And the stuff ain't that funny. I'm usually the last person there talking about that not interesting stuff. Can I top that off for you?

1:01:54Will Arnett:No, no, no. anymore I'll be leaving I'll be leaving at the same time I'm too tired I'm just tired word to the wise

1:02:01Sean Hayes:if you run into Jason in a social setting just make sure you have a bunch of stuff loaded just to try to keep him interested because he doesn't want to talk to you sounds like a really great guy doesn't he it's not true fucking self-involved asshole no he's wonderful sometimes you do it for other people not just for you you fucking dick I'm just shy God you've had so much given to you you've had so much attention and shit given to you your whole life why don't you fucking give back to other people. Noblesse oblige. All right. Let's just ask some questions.

1:02:28Will Arnett:Amy Adams.

1:02:29Sean Hayes:Ah, what a pleasure. You're just a delight. We love you. You're so great. And thank you so much. We can't wait for Cape Fear on Apple TV. It's fantastic. And we just continued success. You're just the greatest. Oh, thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on. I could talk to you guys for hours. Likewise.

1:02:46Will Arnett:Hugs and kisses to Darren. Yeah, to Amanda and the girls as well. Thank you, honey. Thank you. Bye-bye-bye. Thanks, Amy. Bye-bye-bye. Bye-bye.

1:02:58Will Arnett:double A right there I'd marry you double A Amanda Aka yeah Amy Adams yeah yeah Amy Adams that's right two A's two A's double A and she's what a career every single thing you guys remember I'm like oh that's right oh that's right oh my god that's right

1:03:11Sean Hayes:I mean everything's quality

1:03:12Will Arnett:everything's quality always and even if it's not she's the best thing in it I mean it's like she's just it never sucks no that's what

1:03:20Sean Hayes:that's why it's a very that's a rare

1:03:22Will Arnett:rare error Yeah, we all clank it every once in a while, but I think she's either buried the things that she hasn't been good in, or she's just never been bad. Remember Night Bitch? Did you guys see Night Bitch? I never saw it. I saw the trailer, and I thought that looks cool. I like that moment. I just pulled up all her stuff because I'm like, I can't believe.

1:03:41Sean Hayes:It's awesome. Oh, when you look at her things. It's amazing. Yeah, it's insane. I was going to ask what musical she was in. She was in Into the Woods, and in a 2013 interview magazine piece, she said she watched Bye Bye Birdie with her dad who's a huge Ann-Margaret fan, but she's never done that show.

1:04:01Will Arnett:But it's a great title. Oh, yeah, I was going to say, I was surprised you didn't use Bye Bye Birdie for the goodbye, but it sounds like you might be doubling back on that. Well, it's one of those things. Look, look, you know what?

1:04:09Sean Hayes:He did it, but everything happens for a Reese's, you know?

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