"Bill Hader"

24:58And he says, you're always asking me, why won't you get a job? Why won't you stop doing drugs? And what recording artist had more number one hits? Mariah Carey with 11. But seriously, son, I need you out of my house. And that played to utter silence. That's astonishing to me. More silence. Utter silence because the audience was going, wait, did he? Wait, what? You know what I mean? And so, yeah, we were just like, I just remember Dana and I were going, Dana and I were like, why didn't I? I wrote it with John Mulaney and we both were like, why didn't that work? That was so funny. Well, do you guys ever have discussions about, because the dress is what, 8?

25:46And then the show is obviously 1130. But is there, do you ever say, well, but the audience at 8 is weird and it's different. Let's just trust that the 1130 audience is going to love it at home and really. It's like, I wish there was a science to it. But I do remember if the dress was hot, that was bad. if dress was really hot. I remember Polar saying like, uh-oh, hot dress, that's bad. And I was like, why, what, oh, you know. And then, yeah, she was right. It's like, if the dress is hot, then weirdly you get like, it's a superstition thing. You get really confident. And then when you go out to do the live show, it's like, oh.

26:24Go, Sean, go, Sean, go. I was just gonna say for my sister Tracy, like when you say dress, it's dress rehearsal. Oh, sorry, dress rehearsal. And it's the thing that you do before the pre-show. The pre-show, sorry. And they have extra sketches in the dress. Yes, so there's, yes. Cut. Go ahead, Bill. The stuff that doesn't work gets pared out. Yeah, so dress rehearsals at 8 o 'clock. We do a whole show plus, like, three or four extra sketches. And then we go into Lauren's office and stuff has been cut. And then the stuff's been rearranged and rewritten. And then that's the live show. And this is after a brief conversation with the host who gets to chime in.

26:57I'm not sure to what effect about what they would like to cut or not. Yeah, and I'm not sure if they're listening to it. I think, and it's Lauren eating popcorn going. I mean, if you want to look like a fool, we can do this. You know, I once, my brother-in-law played golf once. Yes. Years ago, and he owned a golf club. And the question is, are you going to rent or own? Are you going to rent or own? Is the sketch cutch? You know, and then we would do those Vincent Price sketches, and it'd be between dress and hair, and someone wouldn't do something, you know, an old school impression, and Lauren would be like, what if Jon Hamm played Herbert Marshall?

27:37And you're hearing the band playing, you're hearing the live audience being put in and you're like, I don't know if the audience is going to know who. Fred McMurray. And it's like, how about James Mason? Anybody could do James Mason. If I imagined you, when you're working on an impression, if I imagined you in front of a mirror alone, just like making faces and doing sounds, Is that about the extent of it? Like is it a real private kind of, or is it kind of a little here and a little there, like sometimes in the car, sometimes? Yeah, you do it in the car or you do it around people and then it kind of comes out and it's like, whoa, that sounded good.

28:15Do you still do that, Bill? I mean, do you still? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's just like, yeah, it's like a, my dad does this too, where it's called appropriation, where it's, you know, when you're nervous around someone, you start to talk like them. You know, and I've done that since I was a kid. Like I get very socially anxious and then you start to mimic people's accents as a way of being like, hey, I'm like, don't, you know, like we're all good. You know, it's like - We're part of the same tribe. Don't kill me. Yeah, don't kill me. So yeah, you start to talk like people or whatever. And so I think that lent itself to being able to do voices.

28:57When you were growing up in Oklahoma, did you do that? Did you gravitate towards friends that had the same sensibility and were kind of odd like that? Or were you like... Oh, yeah. And we weren't weird outcasts. No, he was trying to ingratiate himself with murderers. Well, that too. I mean, yeah. I kind of wanted to go. I just wanted to get to know everybody. No, but my best friend is a writer on Barry. He's one of the big writers on Barry. And we've known each other since we were 15 or so. Wow. Great show, by the way. Great show. and you're great. Yeah, congrats. So working on a bridge from SNL to Barry, do you remember the moment where it started to become clear to you that, okay, my life is changing and going to change and I got to kind of get my knees bent and be ready for what can be pretty uncomfortable, which is fame and recognition and responsibility and approaching your dreams.

29:55What did that feel like? Like when Barry came out or like after SNL ended. Yeah, I mean, to move away now from SNL, but I guess it must have started there and feeling like maybe I can now leave and see if I've got what I hope I have and try it out there. Yeah, it's nerve-wracking when you, I mean, because I remember when I left SNL, I did like interviews about it. Like I went and did like Charlie Rose and I did these things about you're leaving SNL and the attitude and everything was like, well, maybe we're never going to see you again. You know, nice knowing you. Well, that's the risk. No one knows.

30:32You know, and it was like, maybe that's it. And so, yeah, it was. I wonder what that batting average is. What do you think the percentage of cast members that go on to, you know, careers that you can still make a living with? I don't know. Is it 50 %? I have no idea. I mean, I try to, I think it was, for me, it was like, you know, It's like if I thought of what makes a plane stay up in the air, I would go crazy. So I just was like, I'm just going to move forward and block out any sort of, because I'm very sensitive to other people's energies, so it is hard when you see agents or executives and they're like, hi.

31:16Wait, am I out? Am I in? Wait, what was that? Why are you acting like that? Do you know what I mean? And so I do kind of put my head down and just keep moving forward and try stuff. It was pretty cool to see you start taking roles that weren't necessarily starring roles. They were these really cool supporting roles in these really fun movies that had these great big stars leading them. And I was like, it looks like you're building this foundation that is going to be around for a long time. And then when Barry happened, and especially the directing element, uh i was just like so excited for you and then talking with you afterwards and finding out about your original passion which was directing i just was so excited for you that that has all come true i mean oh thank you very much jumping around a bit but i mean uh was that always a goal for you and that some of these to the extent there was any strategy that some of these these career choices were meant to point you in that direction and finally land something where you could be somewhat of an auteur?

32:24Yeah. I mean, I think it was always wanting to do movies and then, and then, you know, I'd written some scripts and then I was, did some acting jobs and then, but I didn't really have a lot of, um, faith in myself. It was kind of like, you know, it's like you, you dream of a thing, but you don't, you know, I don't know if I can do it. It feels like the universe wants me to be this thing. And I'm kind of going, well, maybe I'm not right for this other thing. And then honestly, I had a beanie with HBO. They had seen me in a movie called Skeleton Twins and they said, oh, you should, we're interested in you being like that kind of acting in a show for us, not like sketch.

33:06And I was like, okay, cool. And then they go, you meet this guy, Alec Berg, maybe you guys come up with something. So Alec and I sat. The great Alec Berg. Came up with the show Barry. and it was when I went into the meeting. I haven't talked about Alec about it or anybody. And they went, who do you think should do the pilot? Michael Lombardo was like, who do you think should do the pilot? And I was like, I'll direct it. And it was just silence. And they go, have you ever directed before? I was like, no, no, but I can do it. And Alec Berg, to his credit, kind of looked at me. I hadn't talked to him about it or anything.

33:36And he went, yeah, yeah, he can do it. Yeah, I got, no, he'll be fine. He can do it. Oh, that's great. And then he told me afterwards that he was driving home and they called him going, all right, can you really do it? All right, you do it. Yeah, because that's a big for Tracy. That's a very. Bill, didn't you tell me, though, at one time, that you said that Alex said to HBO, yes, if Jason Bateman can direct, anybody can? Is that true? That is a quote. That's a quote. Well, that was a T-shirt they wear over there. And the DGA said, yeah, we let him in as a bit. They kept saying we let him as a bit into the DGA.

34:13That was also at South by Southwest when they give you your key cards before Seasons. It said if Jason Bateman, that's what it said. Wait, guys, I hope this is a joke. No, it's going to be. It's a big, long joke, and they're giving you awards, and they're giving you jobs. Because at the end, it's going to be, we're going to do a big reveal when you're like 60. Yeah. And by the way, when Jason's 60, he's simultaneously going to weigh 60 pounds. He's whittling down, you know, and now he can't even have the nuts. So it's just the cardboard. so he's going to be 60 pounds, and then we all go, it was a fucking joke.

34:47Jason, do you ever have that happen, though, when people look at you and they go, oh, an actor's directing thing a little bit? If they don't, they can always be sure that I'm doing it. I'm sitting there going, what am I doing? Yeah, but bullshit. Both of you guys are smart dudes, and you know what you're doing, and you've been around a lot, and as you know, from the little directing that I've done, it's much more about understanding what it is that you want tonally and what you want that to be. And also you guys have succeeded in it. It's not like you tried it and failed. But still it doesn't matter because my idea of what a director is and looks like is completely opposite for me.

35:28It's just like your idea of what 50 would be when you were 12 has nothing to do with what I feel like and look like at 50. But you also know like even the grades As you know, there is a certain, and I say this out of, you know, with a tremendous amount of respect for all the great directors that have come out, is there's that thing of, like, they have to keep it special and keep it exclusive and keep you out because it, they're not doing it to punish everybody else, but it's also to maintain that respect and that level of thing. It's like, this guy's a great director and you could never do that.

36:02And there's a little bit of, like, well, you did it. No. You're just a human being as well. Just a person. Yeah, it's not so scary. Yeah, a little bit. And of course there are great directors, but you guys are both very accomplished, good directors, and that's how you become a great is you keep doing it. Yeah. And also just sitting around a set and absorbing what everybody is doing to create this fake world. Like, it's hard. What these crew members do is insane. It's insane, yeah. It's really, really cool. And it's not just the director, as you guys know. Right. Everybody's a filmmaker in the costume department.

36:34I love how many actors show up on the first day of principal photography and they're like, okay, let's get started. It's like, no, no, we've been to this location probably a half a dozen times. A movie shot already, basically. You just need to talk. Yeah, people kind of thinking like, well, you know. It's also, I always have a thing where you have an idea and then you go out there and you see all these people busting their ass away from their families in terrible conditions. For at least 12 hours. Trying to make your idea happen. You know, I mean, I'm like, I sit and I look at that and I feel like such a responsibility to, you know, have my shit together.

37:12And as we know, as actors, that's the worst is when you have a director that doesn't know what they want and they're surly and it could be this. And you're there for, I mean, I've worked on shows where I did a show, a movie where we did reverse splits because we kept going so late through the week. So by Friday, we started the day on stage at 1 a.m. It shot until 3 p.m. It was solely because the director was just like, I don't know. What's reverse splits? Okay, so like... For Tracy. That's the big Tracy episode. Oh, yeah. So like if you start, like so you have to have like a, like certain people have to have like 12-hour turnarounds, meaning like if you work from 7 a.m.

37:56and you shoot until 10 p.m., you've got to start the next day at 10 a.m., right? You've got to give people 12 hours of rest. You've got to give 12 hours of rest. Which includes driving home, which is a 90-minute. You've got to negotiate for that. You've got to negotiate that door-to-door thing. No, but I mean early on when you're starting, let's not even get into portal-to-portal. I mean, what are we talking about? Portal-to-portal is like the gold. Like, you've got portal-to-portal? Now we're going to start getting into Downey's deal. I mean, Downey's on stage for 45 minutes before he's out. Yeah.

38:28Anyway, so like if you start at, you know, Monday at work at 7 a.m. and you end at 10 p.m. and then you have to go, okay, now we have 10 a.m. and then they go until 1. Now Wednesday you can't start until 1 p.m. You can't start until 1 p.m. It's going to roll back even more. So it's basically a director shooting 18 to 20-hour days and you've got to get people their turnaround. it just keeps pushing pushing pushing so so your endings your work week saturday frat like four in the afternoon yeah fraturday and you're like yeah yeah and it's solely because someone doesn't have their shit together yeah shit together and in a director's defense um they never see any other director direct so they don't know that they're not getting it done that they're not doing it well it's you know actors crew members everybody sees multiple directors and then if you ever get the chance to direct, you can cherry pick from all the good ones and not do the stuff that the bad guys did.

39:25Sean, go ahead, jump in. I wanted to say, Bill, one of the first times I was ever introduced to one of those hysterical bad lip-reading things was you. Somebody sent it to me years ago. And they're so funny. I think there were Star Wars ones or something. They make me cry laughing. And I want to know... You're done with the subject we were on? Directing? He loves it. He just goes 180. Sean, unbelievable. And he got nominated. It's okay. It's fine. You've pissed off the guest, Sean. No, no. It's okay. We can talk about bad lip reading. No, I always wanted to know, because I've never met anybody who I know who did it, this is the dumbest question in the world, but I'm always interested in knowing how do you do it?

40:11Do they just run the tape and you ad-lib? Well, the guy who does it is a genius, and you go to his house and he's done it already. Oh, wow. So you just, it's his ADR. It's just, you're watching it going, okay, so he's done it already. And so you're trying to mimic what they've done. And it's really that guy. And it kind of just took off. And now they do it for people in Congress. I don't know how they, I have no idea how he does that. Anyway, that's all I wanted to know. You can move this around in the episode. You can move that a little earlier. I mean, just fear this off the road. There's a whole Sean section that is after people usually listen.

40:48We say he's like a Make-A-Wish kid. He'll just go, I was wanting to know, how did you? And when we give him a T-shirt every once in a while. We're just building steam. Did you grow up with a dog?

41:07Now, with Barry, where are we with Barry? As we talk to you today. By the way, sorry. No offense to Make-A-Wish. Obviously, it's amazing. You don't have to say that. Everybody knows you're joking. Well, we don't. You know, we get lots of letters from people. Let them write. Just don't read them well. You're right. So where are we with Barry? Are we in production, out of production? The thing with Barry. I'm just waiting for Sean to come. Yeah, he'll interrupt. No, it's really funny. He doesn't think of any questions until you're actually talking. Did your parents listen to Charo? Believe me, it's exactly like that.

41:45No, but I think that's funny. I like that. No. We just did, so we're doing editing season four. How high can you jump? God, it's so. I'm just curious. These are the things. These are the things. Seemed like you could. Long legs. Seems like you could jump high. Anyway. Depression. You were talking about depression? Sorry. You were really into the thing you were talking about, but I just wanted to take you out just to satisfy my own itch. And so... That's right. Depression has affected your family for how long? And you do like tater tots. I just want to get that. You do.

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42:37And now, back to the show. wait so so you're you're you're you're editing we're editing and we just did reshoots last week we did three days of reshoots so i'm in this weird place of like did these reshoots and now i'm back in the edit bay plugging in what we reshot and the anxiety of like oh please tell me this works you know yeah yeah and seeing how it plays out and going but then it's also that I'm also at that phase where really smart friends and people who have worked on the show or people I know, writers or former editors, I will send them the episodes to be like, how's it feeling? Haven't been sent anything.

43:17You know, well, you know. I'll check my check. I'll check the check. Siri, refresh my inbox. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't need it. Didn't you take that? I feel like it hasn't been on for a while. Didn't you take a break? Was there a break or a COVID thing or something? Yeah, well, we had to for season, between seasons two and three, yeah. Yeah, and then there was COVID. And then I shot. I've been waiting. No, I've been, I did three and four pretty much back to back. Huh. Yeah. Because of Dr. Fauci? Dr. Fauci. Yeah, because of Fauci, because he wanted to do, I keep going, what's the end game?

43:52What did he want to do? He wanted to take over the planet? What do you think that he? I'd say at the Emmys, but I'd say you, you two, Jason and Will, were the two people at the Emmys that pointed at my face and went, mouth why are you wearing a mask oh i remember you wearing the mask i remember yeah jason you were going why like mouthing are you sick are you sick stay away from me and i was the reason was because i was shooting and it was this thing of like if you get covered we shut down for two weeks and we lose all our locations people got to go home we lose crew yeah so i walked in and i was like there's literally no one on a mask here you were the only one i saw bob odenkirk and he's like do you have covid bob bob odenkirk and bill so we were doing brother solomon oh my god i was on a yeah i know what you're gonna say bill's on a recumbent bicycle okay yeah and so so we got the scene it's me and forte and and and wig and he kept having this thing and and but bob was so obsessed with Bill and he goes oh my god buddy oh look at Bill on the recumbent bike he says look up in the sky and Kristen Wiig is giving she's giving a performance where she has to cry she has to cry and give this emotional speech and the joke is that while she's doing this the brothers Solomon are watching me as this weird guy in a recumbent bike he was Bob was being one of the brothers' songs because Kristen was giving this amazing performance and he was like, cut.

45:33Okay, Bill, what you gotta do? And she's like... And Arnett was like, hey, Bob, can we please acknowledge what Kristen's doing over here? It's incredible acting work. She was doing this amazing work and he was like, oh, my God. Where did they find this thing? Did they invent this bike? This isn't real, is it? oh my god people don't ride these it was so crazy and we're like and Bob obsessed with Bill on the fucking bike I really respected Arnett for being like hey can we just acknowledge and then you're going to prison is another Odenkirk film that was incredible that was a great work Yeah, it was a good.

46:23That was my very first audition for a movie. It was an audition for some part in that movie. No way. And Bob, I remember reading with him, and he took my sides away, and he goes, don't worry about these, just talk to me. Oh, really? And I was so scared. I was so anxious. I was so anxious because I was like, he's a legend, and Mr. Show and everything, and I was so terrified, and I had never auditioned before, and I did the, like, by rote in a mirror, like, you know, I did everything, you know, and I had all the words. What's the most money you've ever spent in one trip to Trader Joe's? Oh, my God.

47:02Sorry about this, Bill, honestly. No, on that, while we're on food, I want to hear about your peanut allergy. When was the last time you had a real, I want to know when you had a real blow up with peanuts. How did you know? Marty Short said, you know, Bill, usually people, when they talk about their allergies, it's so boring. But when you talk about it.

47:25I do have a nut allergy. I do have a very bad... How do you know? What happened? My mouth gets... It just happened to me. It just happened to me about a month ago. I was moderating a Q &A with somebody and we went and ate beforehand and I ate lasagna. I'm at Little Dom's and I eat lasagna and then suddenly my mouth goes numb and my throat starts to go up and I go in the bathroom and I see I'm getting a rash on the side of my face and I go, shit, fuck. And so I ran, and people are still talking and mingling. I go, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I ran down to, there's like an Albertsons there or something, run inside, find Benadryl, take it in the aisle, took like three of them and then went back.

48:18So you don't need an EpiPen? I was like, I got to go find an EpiPen. And I just, I had no EpiPen, so I just did some Benadryl, texted my doctor. They were like, okay, you should be fine. Okay, we're going to put in a prescription here, whatever. And we were just figuring it out. And I ended up still doing the thing on a bunch of Benadryl. What would nuts be doing in lasagna? It was vegan, it was vegan, vegan cheese. It was cashews. I'm out. Oh, cashews. It's not unusual in Los Feliz for actors just to be taking drugs in the Isles of Elm. Right. That is true. There was a bunch of other people, and they're like, You too, man.

48:50But now, so as I don't remember when we were at the Dodger game and I eat tons and tons of peanuts. I don't remember you getting nervous that I was near you with peanuts. Yeah. So you're not one of those. No, no, it's not like the dust or something. I have to like ingest it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's no fun. By the way, Sean just very discreetly under his thing wrote down, you just gave me a lasagna. He just wrote it down. That's what he's going to have for lunch. He's like lasagna, Garfield. Oh, no, I'm freezing. You know what Sean said to me, by the way, the other day? This is totally true.

49:25Jason, I haven't told you this yet either. Sean the other day just goes, you know what I had for breakfast this morning? I had a pot roast. I had a pot roast for breakfast. And I go, what? Just out of the blue. I go, what? He goes, yeah, with mashed potatoes, and then I had ice cream. I swear to God, nine in the morning. What, are you being executed? Are you being executed? Are you on death row? I mean, we were at a meeting the other day. We were at a meeting the other day, and they made us a cake at this meeting. Bill, are you ready for this? A cake that had our Smartless pictures and names and stuff that was on the frosting on top of it.

49:57Just like as a gift, like a sort of ceremonial, like here's a cake. Yeah, it was kind of a fun little thing. And Sean left the meeting with the cake, full cake in his hands. No, hang on a second. Hang on a second. Walking out. Before the meeting started, Sean cut into the cake and started eating it at the table, his own cake. They made a cake for us. 30 people at a business meeting. He was like, well, it would be rude not to have a piece. So he starts eating it, and then he took it with him in his car. He left CAA. He came down out of CAA with this cake with his own fucking face on it. But he lives with his husband and a dog.

50:33That's it. So who was going to eat that cake? It's not for kids. You said you'd have half of it done by the end of the week. Scotty's got diabetes. He's not eating the cake, so it's all Sean. Bill, what's your current temperature? No, no, no. Sean, serious question. How much of the cake is left? This is not yet a week. That night he had more. And that morning, the next morning. Right, Sean? Yeah, for sure. Five days later, how much is left? I kind of wanted it done. Like, if you're an adult and you have all the cake you can eat, why wouldn't you eat it? Right. Are you self-aware when that's happening, Sean?

51:06Are you like, this is... Do you have guilt? Do you have shame? This is a little nuts. No guilt. No, you know what I think it is? Like, I just can't stop. I think because we grew up with nothing. anytime I'm like, oh my God, free cake. Free cake. Tell me how much of the cake is left. It's gone. Is it? Really? Yes. Well, that was a week. That was almost a week ago. Shit pig. Yeah, you just a shit pig. I get that. I don't know. Don't you get it? I get it. I do get it where it's like, we're just going to leave this here. Come on. I know. There is a lot of that and there's a lot of waste in what we do.

51:39Final question. That was funny. How high can you jump? If you really wanted to jump high, how high? By the way, here's the other thing. Bill, you work with our old dear friend on Barry, Henry Winkler. Oh, yeah. I love him. I love him. Henry's so sweet. The one and only. He's the greatest. The sweetest. Yeah. He's always like, you get me there. Like, you doubt his sincerity. Does he still leave his ringer on on his phone while you're rolling? Does he do that? No. No, he doesn't do that. We have a blooper reel that's dedicated from the first couple seasons of Arrested to Henry's phone going off in the middle of a scene.

52:13And by the way, usually during his own dialogue. So he'd be doing a courtroom scene going, what do we have to do? And then ring. Oh, my God. Hang on a second. Uh-oh, it's Stacy. Hold on. And Jason, we have a great blooper of Jason going, go ahead and take that. You want to just take it? Oh, Henry, he's so sweet. Henry, one time we were doing a thing and, you know, my character fought in Afghanistan. And three takes in a row, he's in Vietnam. Yeah, sure. It was really funny. I have him on my phone. And when Barry was fighting in Vietnam, that's not right. Hold on. And then every Friday it's like, Henry, that was a great take where you had to have a mental breakdown.

52:52That was really good. He's like, you got me there. I have this chocolate bundt cake from Jersey City in the trunk of my car.

53:04He is absolutely the greatest guy ever. He does amazing work, and I think he gets very anxious about his dramatic work. but he's such a good traumatic actor. And he really will go where he needs, you know, he's not afraid or whatever, but it is funny how much he'll have that moment and then he, you know, turns it right on. You know, this season especially, he goes through a lot of stuff, but when he'll do that and then, yeah, he'll offer you sweets. He's such a talent. You know, he was one of the guys, when we were first doing Arrested Development and I was living in New York, but coming out here to do it and I'd be oftentimes, you know, I was friends with these guys a little bit, but, you know, whatever.

53:42I didn't have anywhere. And he and his wife, Stacy, would invite me over on Saturday mornings, and I would go over there and just, you know, have breakfast with him and with the family all the time. He was so sweet. I love him. I know. They were so generous. Yeah, we pretty much every month go and have breakfast, like, once, you know. And it's great. And he is kind of like, so how are you doing, like, outside of everything? How's your life? How's this? How's his feeling? Like, he's just, I always walk away from those feeling, you know, better about myself. Didn't you want to grow up in his house?

54:17Well, you know what's funny? You remember back then, it was like when his son Max was still in high school. Yeah. And his best buddy was Jonah Hill. Yeah. And those guys were still in fucking high school when I was there. Like, this is like 2003, like the fall of 2003. The fall, was it? Yeah. and those guys were still in high school him and Jonah and they were like oh man we love Arrested Development and they were like fucking 17 you know or if that so weird anyway 2003 Sean wanted to know have you ever had to put snow tires on he just he texted that in he texted me he said just please ask him I'm so glad you got it in time Don't be so shy, Sean.

55:08That's a great question. Can you, Bill, because I'm such a massive fan. What's that hammer? I'm such a massive fan. Can you do just, I know you're not a singing monkey. Here we go. But can you do Vincent Price just a little bit? Because it's so fucking funny. Oh, I'm trying to, well, the thing I remember, John Mulaney's first night of writing at SNL, he, Seth Meyers said, oh, maybe we should bring the new guy in and help on Vincent Price. And we were writing a thing, and it was Fred would play Liberace and I'm Vincent Price, and we're arguing. Yeah. And we're arguing, as you do. Right, still with you, yep.

55:46Yeah, so he's Liberace. Still with you. This is, by the way, this is in 2008, when people are still really excited about Vincent Price and Liberace. And as Lauren said, I like to sketch, but why now? but Liberace and they're talking and we're like, oh, what's a thing Vincent Price could say to Liberace after he burns him or something? And John Mulaney came up with the line, save your sassy assides for your windowless bars.

56:24That is so funny. That is so funny. And then he had a... I wish Rudd was here to do his Liberace. That is profoundly funny. And then Fred would, yeah, Liberace was always him talking about, like, a prince who had given him a jewel or something. Yeah, it was always. Anyway, Jack Nicholson, John Malkovich, all of them. I fucking love all of them. Oh, thank you very much. Oh, incredible. But the, and then, yeah, that line always, we were just like, whoa. But, like, what about that? What, like, is there ever going to be another vehicle where we can see you do your impressions or is it just going to be like...

57:04Is that chapter closed, bro? Yeah, I mean, I go on like Kimmel or something. They'll be like... I went on Kimmel like not too long ago and he had me do all the Dateline people. Right. Because I watch Dateline a lot. So he's like just do all the Dateline people. So I did them and... But yeah, usually it's like you're at a party or something and you know who loves impressions? Like at Conan's. Yeah, Conan. You know who loves impressions is Larry David. Yeah, yeah. He loves. Sean just did some work with him. He loses his mind when you do an impression of anybody. Can you do Larry David? Woo, woo, woo.

57:37I mean, that's it. Wait, do one? Who would you trust to do you? Oh, man, everybody does. Probably Sarah Fanoich. I mean, yeah. I mean, Fred does a really good meme. Does he really? His impression of me, everybody's impression of me is like, hey, Ben, what's going on? It's Bill. And then his impression of me is I've always just discovered a super famous band. Hey, you know who I started listening to is Bruce Springsteen.

58:05He's like, you always walk into my office and you're like, you know, the Almond Brothers are pretty good. I just started listening to them. Wait, do really quick. Do Jack Nicholson watching Dateline? I don't know if I do Jack Nicholson. Oh, really? Do Jack Nicholson. Oh, you know who Larry David likes is Burt Lancaster. Burt Lancaster when he there's this guy told me a story this made Larry David laugh really hard was a guy worked for Burt Lancaster and he brought him some chowder for lunch and he said that Burt Lancaster looked in the bag and looked up at him and he went Oyster crackers you forgot the oyster crackers

58:47Larry David makes me say that all the time he's like oyster crackers you forgot the oyster crackers That's so well. Yeah, I think, you know, that's always fun. I do it on set, and it gets old fast. No, actually, nothing. I've never had setups in between shots feel shorter than when I worked with you on Paul. Oh, yeah. It's just so fun to hang out with on a set. You've got to do more of that. Yeah, we were. Do you remember when they blew up the house in Paul? Yeah, yeah, shockwave. And they said, yeah, you guys are going to stand right here. Mm-hmm. Okay. And we went, okay. And then me and you were looking at each other.

59:25And I go, you know what? I want to go stand where the special effects guy is. The guy standing behind a barricade. And then where we were standing was a giant car or something land, like massive debris landed where we were. We were like, this isn't fun. No. Yeah. Oh, my God. Wait a second. I love that you're telling us this because Jason doesn't remember anything. By the way, he never would have told us that story. Never comes up. No, he also, were you there when the guys made us drink? jalapeno stuff. I think you were, weren't you with us? I might have been. It was me and Simon Pegg and everybody and they're like, hey, you guys are Hollywood people.

1:00:02You know, it was just like we were in New Mexico and they were like, oh, these loud Hollywood people. Right. Hey, here, drink a shot of this. And it wasn't, it was pure. Jalapeno juice? It's not alcoholic because I was like, oh, I don't drink. And they're like, it's, and it was jalapeno juice. And we had to run and get milk and stuff. It was a way of like, get the fuck out of here. Maybe I was there. That's starting to sound familiar. That was like, that was fun. That was good. Let me tell you what was fun, Bill. Was this chat? Yeah, it was. We could do two full episodes. We haven't gotten into any of your incredible voiceover work in all these animated films, too.

1:00:41I mean, it's on and on and on. It really is. You're an incredible talent, multidimensional, or whatever it is, you're that. Big, big, big fan. And a great guest. Well done. Good to see you, dude. Good to see you guys, man. Good to see you, Pally. I'm calling you for a Dodger game soon. Yeah, please. All right. Have a good day, bud. You, bud. Bye. Thank you. Bye, Pally. Bye. Bye. All right. I don't think there's anything that guy can't do. God, that was funny stuff, man. That was really funny. He acts, writes, directs, produces. High quality person, friend. I'm just kind of blown away that he went on SNL and then just had all those characters.

1:01:22Like, what are the odds of, yeah, let's take a chance on Bill Hader, and then you've got all this stuff inside of him. Yeah, it's so funny. It's funny that he said that he does that appropriation thing because you see that in him. Like a nervous thing. Yeah, where he's just like, oh, and he starts doing the voice while he's... I do that all the time. I'll take people's laughter. I'll start laughing like them for some weird reason, and that'll be like my new laugh for a few weeks. Really? I think it's like a common human thing. I do find that I just yammer and yammer and yammer when I'm socially uncomfortable.

1:01:53I'll do the opposite of what you think you would do, which is just shrivel and go into a corner and be quiet. I should just start talking. I just start speaking whatever I'm thinking of in my mind. Yeah, I mean, I notice you at parties, and you kind of do it on this. I see you talking to somebody when you're engaging with, like, another person, and you're just talking at them, and you're, like, asking them questions, and you're just fucking, and they're thinking, like, Like, oh, at first they're like, oh, I got to talk to Jason Bateman. And then they want to fucking kill themselves. They realize it's not that great.

1:02:22And do you blah, blah, blah? And you're like, you're going, but the question is like the show. You're asking questions and you're leading and it's on and on. I know. And I just, often they have a look of what I would describe only as disgust. Yeah, my family kicked me out of the house a couple days ago. But you know what, Jay? With all that work on your mouth that you've had, you're talking so beautifully. and I'm glad you finally got that tooth fixed. Which one was it called? I think it was a Bye Cuspid. Bye Cuspid. And then repeat it again and say it higher. Bye. Bye Cuspid. Look at Will harmonizing.

1:02:57I didn't love it. It was too early. Well, my God, are you kidding? Smart. Smart.

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