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SmartLess Podcast Episode Summary: "Daniel Craig"
Episode Description In this episode of *SmartLess*, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome the renowned actor Daniel Craig. The discussion dives into a range of humorous and thoughtful topics, from Craig's reflections on his career to light-hearted banter among the hosts.
Cold Open
- The episode starts with the hosts jokingly attempting to create the "world's worst cold open."
- Will Arnett leads with a line about the cold, setting a humorous tone for the podcast.
Hosts' Personal Updates
- Jason Bateman discusses a stye in his eye, sharing a light-hearted moment about his recent visit to the doctor.
- They reminisce about their recent get-together and express excitement about recording again after a short break.
Childbirth Conversation
- The hosts embark on a comedic tangent about childbirth after discussing friends who recently had a baby.
- Jason mentions watching childbirth videos on YouTube, leading to amusing conversations about the realities of childbirth.
Introduction of Daniel Craig
- The hosts introduce Daniel Craig, humorously highlighting his diverse interests, including his military background, sports, and love for Shakespeare.
- Craig's unexpected connection to the hosts, particularly his past meeting with Will, adds a personal touch to the interaction.
Key Themes Discussed
Daniel Craig's Background and Career
- Early Inspirations: Craig discusses his upbringing in Liverpool and how his mother, an art teacher, influenced his passion for acting. He often spent time at the Everyman Theatre, where he developed an interest in performing.
- Breakthrough Roles: Craig reflects on his early career, including his breakthrough role in *Love Is a Devil* and the significance of the British film industry's evolution, as well as the challenges of establishing oneself in the industry.
James Bond Legacy
- Craig shares insights into the pressures of taking on the iconic role of James Bond. He recounts the mixed reactions he faced from fans and the media during his casting.
- He candidly discusses the impact of fame on his life, revealing that he experienced a period of anxiety after the release of *Casino Royale*.
Sense of Humor
- The conversation reveals Craig's surprising comedic side, particularly in his recent work in films like *Knives Out*. The hosts encourage him to explore more comedic roles.
- Craig reveals his thoughts on the industry and the importance of balancing dramatic work with comedic opportunities.
Personal Reflections and Advice
- Craig offers advice to young actors about resilience and the importance of avoiding bitterness in the competitive industry.
- He shares valuable insights into maintaining humility and staying grounded despite fame, emphasizing the influence of his family and upbringing.
Current Projects
- The episode concludes with Craig discussing his upcoming film *Queer*, directed by Luca Guadagnino, revealing his excitement about the complex character he portrays.
- The hosts express admiration for Craig's work and discuss the film's release, encouraging listeners to look forward to it.
Conclusion
- The episode wraps up with lighthearted banter as the hosts thank Craig and reflect on the enjoyable conversation.
- The camaraderie among the hosts and Craig creates a warm and engaging atmosphere, leaving listeners with a mix of laughter and thoughtful insights.
Key Takeaways
- Career Journey: Craig's path from a struggling actor in Liverpool to an iconic film star encapsulates the ups and downs of Hollywood.
- Balance in Acting: The importance of pursuing varied roles, including comedy, is highlighted as a valuable lesson for aspiring actors.
- Resilience in Fame: Craig’s candidness about his experiences with fame provides a relatable perspective on life in the limelight.
Listeners can expect a blend of humor, introspection, and engaging storytelling in this episode, showcasing Daniel Craig as not just a talented actor but also as a person grounded in his experiences.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05All right, so we're having a cold open contest right here. we're trying to create the world's worst cold open prior to it. Well, not yet. I'm just teeing it up. Will, would you like to start the world's worst cold open? Hey, man, it's freezing in here. Who left the door open? That's good. Pretty good. Welcome to SmartLess. SmartLess.
0:38SmartLess.
0:48It feels like we haven't done this for quite a while. I know. I miss you guys. Didn't we? We canceled a record last week, I think. Yes, we had to, yeah. So it's been a couple weeks. Is that right? Yeah. It's been a few weeks. Well, we saw each other Saturday. We did. We did. But we haven't done this. This. We haven't done this in quite a while. We haven't. Jay, how's your style, by the way? but Jason's got a big stye in his right eye. It's disgusting. Are we going wide on this? I guess I can lean in. I guess we are. I can lean in camera here. There's a little. You know what? It actually looks, is it better?
1:22It does look better. I started an antibiotic last night, so that's supposed to. Already? Yeah, I know. What do you want? You wanted to wait two weeks just to make sure. It's all about trying to find the right doctor. Yeah. So anyway, so I think I'm with the right one now. and this what is now a ball bearing of pus that it will not release from my eyelid, I think is going to start to lessen and ultimately disappear. So you found a full release doctor? I did. Yeah. And insurance covered it all. That's so stupid. It was a small copay, but... I feel like the term doctor might be pretty loosely applied.
1:58Jay, I'm not even... Jason, I'm not even kidding. Will you please video this shit coming out? There is not going to be... I asked him to drain me yesterday and... Hang on. Hang on. Again, this is the doctor. Can I get the number? Because I feel like we're getting our signals. Yeah. He said, no, just take this pill and you should be okay and soon. Good, I hope so. Stand by. I hope so. Until then, I'm going to wear these glasses so people don't really see it. Which is different because, Sean, you told me once that a guy gave you a pill and then he drained you. Is that true? All for a pretty affordable co-pay.
2:31You woke up and you had been drained. Yeah, but I willingly took the pill. I know you do. By the way, speaking of stuff, I'm making this up, yesterday, somehow I got on this subject. Oh, I was talking about this Saturday too. Uh-huh. I YouTubed childbirth. I've never seen a child being birthed. What's the matter with you? I don't know. I kind of wanted to just see it. Hang on. How does your day kind of lay out where you find yourself on a YouTube search and then specifically for childbirth? Yeah, because I was talking to my friend Kevin about it and Carrie. and she, and I don't know. Kevin and Carrie, friends of the podcast.
3:07Yeah, that's correct and all of us and so yeah, but they, I don't know, we got on the subject of childbirth. Oh, because a friend of mine, because a friend of mine, a friend of ours just had a baby and Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger had a baby boy named Ford. Yes, yes, congrats to them. Wait, do we need, we need to sway, we need to send a gift. We got to send them something. Do you think they're registered? Some smartless swag. No, I'll put my name on it. I'll put your names on it. I sent something about your names on it. Thanks. So you saw the childbirth, and what was your... No, so I was talking to people about childbirth, and I was like, wow, I mean, I know...
3:41It comes out of there? I had no idea that to watch it actually be... Uh-huh. To come out, and the head comes out all elongated. Yes, yes, and the whole body comes out. First time I saw it, I thought something was wrong. I was there for the birth of all three of my boys. Oh, wow. What a dad. And they were... All three? All three were cesarean C-sections, which was... That's tough to watch. It is. That was my point. You empty out the whole market there. Dude, and I'm like, yeah, it's going to be fun. I remember the first time being like, it's going to be fun. And then looking and just going, oh, cool.
4:19Stomach, intestines, spleen, liver, everything on the table. By the way, you know what a platinum gay is? A baby that comes out who turns out to be gay, who never even went through the canal, had a C-section. So not only once touched Looked at it Or been through it Is it Is it platinum gay? That's a real term? Platinum gay Yeah It means your mom had a Mom had a C-section Is that a whole section on Grindr? Is that like a different All right And with that We'll get to our guest Okay Guys How is that possible? Guys We rarely have members Of the military on the show Uh huh Even more rare Are members of the British military Today we have a commander of the Royal Navy, all right?
5:02But this is not just a soldier. His interests include rugby. Is it Churchill? Clearing. I'm going to have to start over now. You know, I don't like to be interrupted during my, I spent a long time writing these. Guys, we rarely have members of the military on the show. Even more rare are members of the British military. Today we have a commander of the Royal Navy, but this is not just a soldier. His interests include rugby, clearing minefields, Shakespeare, Liverpool soccer, Will Solving Mysteries and Shaking Martinis Guys What? It's Daniel Craig No way! Woo! Yep, yep, yep Oh my god, I wanted to meet you for so long Right there This is so cool Well, here we are Will, take it easy Well, I know I didn't know that you were a Liverpool supporter This is great news You would have covered that before when you guys met?
5:56Yeah, I would have Wait, Daniel, I think I know what hotel room you're in. You've been in this hotel room? You're at the Four Seasons Los Angeles. How did you guess? Is that true? Because you're on a junket, right? Are you on a junket? Yeah. I have been coming to this hotel for like 35 years. Same room. They're doing the same room. Daniel, did they make that jacket in men's or? Hey, Sean. Wow. This is one of the first minutes. We're off. Good. Excellent. I actually love it. I actually love it. Wait. Now, Sean, no, no, no. I actually really like that. Sean, do you know Daniel as well? I don't. I've never met you, obviously.
6:34It doesn't seem like it. No. Very casual. I'm a massive, massive fan. Massive fan. I can't, yeah. Okay. And Will, you have met Mr. Craig. We have met. We hung out. We had, we watched the Super Bowl together. Right, Daniel? Yes, we did. That's right. And then we went out. Did we then end up in the chateau? Yes. Oh. Yeah. Was that after? I can't remember. That's two separate incidents. but there's probably the same night there's a lot of alcohol in it yeah we ended up at the Chateau with Krasinski and Sean Penn that's boy I'm drunk already so fucking Hollywood it's just it was very Hollywood it sounds like a bit but it's actually that was a long that was a long time ago it's a great group to drink with where was I damn it in a facility I was probably in a facility somewhere figuring stuff out it was yeah I think it was family weekend at Betty Ford
7:31now Sean we're gonna get Sean we're gonna get to the time when Daniel was a stormtrooper in Star Wars we're gonna get to that no way I know exactly which one he was how about that come on truly of course I do so this is not something that I just discovered on Wikipedia no it's the one where he says where she does plays the mind trick and you will walk away and drop your weapon I will walk away and drop my weapon you dropped your weapon you walked out of the scene that's true It's true. You spoke. Well, I didn't want to, but I just said, you know, dub me, Christ's sake, I don't need. But that's a bump.
8:06You know, you speak as a stormtrooper. That's a bump into principle. Do you think I got one? Yeah. They didn't even give me the uniform. The only thing I wanted was the uniform. It was like, give me the helmet at least. How did that come about? Were you visiting on the set and they said, here's an extra? We were about to start, I don't know which Bond it was. You lose track. It was the last one. No, no, it wasn't. It must have been Spectre. And we were prepping and I knew all the crew, the ADs who worked on. You drifted over to the stage? I drifted over. Really? I kind of went, come on, put me in uniform.
8:47I love that. Come on, truly, is that the way that it went? Exactly. I was half joking thinking they were just going to tell me where to get off. How long of a day was that? Too fucking long. You know, that kind of regret of like sort of think, oh, no, I'll be an extra. Oh, yeah, it's great. How many hours have we been? I'm going to sit in the back of shot for. This is like, they were very good. They were great. I do remember wearing, because, you know, the suits are, I mean, they're basically hard plastic and kind of, you know, they're not comfortable. I mean, God knows how they wore them out in the desert when they do those.
9:22But I remember that it sort of was a little bit big for me and it sort of rested on my thumb and my thumb was numb for three days afterwards. And I was like, the price I pay, and I didn't get a bump. Right. No bump, no helmet, no nothing. You got a bump at the chateau.
9:41Sean wants to know, did you meet the mayor of Tatooine?
9:47Fucking grow up, Sean. I would kill. I would kill. He's going to double back to this. I know it. All right, now, Daniel. Where to start? Do you have all the questions? I've got so many. And these two just fuck with you and stop you answering the questions. That's the way it goes on this. That's the way it goes. You'll be lucky to speak. What happens when the reveal and the other two go, oh, fuck. That must happen, sure. Yes. It does. It's happened not out loud. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now, let's just, can we, I'm going to qualify this by saying, I'll bet, I'm going to ask you some questions that you've answered a thousand times.
10:34And I want you to be patient with us because we're dumb people that aren't fully researched. We're not journalists. We're terrible interviewers. We're going to come at you with just dumb questions. Okay. Why do I feel like I'm being hustled here? Welcome to SmartLess. Now, what about, can we start at the beginning? Sure. All right, all right. So you're in Liverpool, all right? Yes. By the way, you got to see Daniel. Picture the scene. Okay, so it's gray. It's pissing with rain. Now, was there an influence there, mom or dad? Mom. Mom. Mom was a... An art teacher. Art teacher. Thank you. Oh, wow.
11:20That's cool. And so she sort of exposed you to the arts a little bit. She took you to movies or to plays or whatnot. How did the spark start? Plays were the thing. There was a theater in Liverpool at the time, the 70s till it is, called the Everyman Theater, which was kind of a hotbed of talent, as they say, at the time in the 70s. But her friends had been at Liverpool Art College and a lot of them had gone into the theatre, stage design and things. And those were her kind of friends. She was a single mum. Yeah. And we used to kind of end up going there most nights to the theatre just to sort of hang out.
11:56There was a kind of, you know, they had a bistro there. That's so cool. Cheap food. And it was a subsidised theatre and they did this thing where it's like, you know, there's a pound, a ticket. The whole thing was supposed to be so everybody could afford to go and they did some off-the-charts plays. but it meant that I spent sort of evenings backstage at the theater. And that'll do it to you. Right. Well, that's where all the fun happens. Yeah, and this is something that mom really likes. It seems pretty cool. And on and on and on, right? And, you know, actors kind of like, you know, meet actors afterwards.
12:32I'm seeing them and I thought they were gods and then I just realized they were drunk. Yeah, they were drunk. That's a necessary component. But they were drunk. But at the same time, at that age, if you're quite young and you're an adolescent, you're a teenager, whatever it is, when you're exposed to that kind of thing and that kind of world, it does give you that perspective that other kids your age don't have. And you're spending a lot of time with adults who are talented, who are creative. And when you get that fire kind of sparked at that age, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, definitely.
13:08And I mean, it really did. It went in. That's what I wanted to do. I mean, that's all I wanted to do. But it also gave me this, watching the way a theater works and the way that professionals work and all that, it also kind of went, oh, this is a job as well. You could see that. It's kind of a couple of things. Lots of things happened. When was the first time you thought, oh, this is something that I might not embarrass myself doing? When was the first time you thought, I might not embarrass myself doing? How's that? What are you talking about? Second Bond film? Second Bond film. The drinking component helps with that.
13:38I still feel like I'm embarrassing myself. But I mean, was it a school play where you're like, oh, I don't suck at this, or I'm getting a couple of pats on the back? I got roped into a school play. I mean, I kind of did one of those things where I think I kind of had a couple of days off or whatever, I got the mumps or something, I don't know. And I came back and I'd been cast in the school play. What was it? Do you remember what it was? It was Oliver, yeah. Oh, wow. I wasn't Oliver, sadly. I was Mr. Sowersbury which is the part that's not in the movie that kind of was in the musical and got for good reason got written out of the movie Was it a spicy character though?
14:18He's an undertaker You got a pick-a-pocket or two, right? I didn't get to do that no, sadly, yeah I know you got a pick-a-pocket or two that's right I mean, it's a credo you live by Right, so you do that you get a couple of attaboys a couple of pats on the back and you're like alright, well I'm going to lean into this a little bit and you started maybe a little bit more sort of like... Well, I don't know about you guys. I mean, you must have all done a school play at some point. It's just that kind of mass hysteria thing that kind of happens, which is, I mean, you know, my kids do school plays.
14:46I love that kind of just like the level of like, oh my God, which is like, it kind of stays with you. It kind of, you get it. I got asked to be in a school play and I think it was because I'm quite sure, never totally confirmed, quite sure it was because I was such a loud mouth pain in the ass. What? No. Yeah, if you can believe it. and they were like, fuck, how do we, is there somewhere we can find like either a room that's soundproof or somewhere we can take that fucking energy that's driving everybody crazy. By the way, and they're like, HMS Pinafore and I was like, okay. Yeah, that's it. I mean.
15:22Will, the same thing. The same thing. People were like, God, you're fucking loud and annoying and. Yeah. And I did Shakespeare's 12th Night and I was Sir Andrew Aguicheek. I had no idea what I was saying. and until I got in front of the audience, then it kind of clicked and every line that was a comedy line got a laugh and I was like, what is that? What is that? What is that about? Yeah, that's crazy. When you started feeling that. The ultimate drug you wanted to ignore. I'm like, fuck you. This loud mouth's going to keep going. Now, Daniel, you are very, very funny. Like, you know, the Knives Out.
16:01No, the Knives Out stuff is like, When someone says you're very, very, very funny, I can't say, am I? No, but maybe it's because people weren't expecting because you've done so much incredible dramatic work. I've been so moody for 15 years. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, we do what we get, you know, but like now are you starting to pursue, raise your hand, get more scripts that are more comedic, and is that something that is exciting to you? Please say yes. I never, yes, okay, yes. Yes. Why don't you give me the questions and I'll just... No, he likes to... What the answers... I do build the answer in the question.
16:39The answer is always built in. And so then he likes to bring the guest into the inevitable, really interesting yes or no. Is that how we go out on this? I can't wait. 50 questions, yes or no. It's easy. Do you want to do more comedy? Yes. Listen, you know, it would be like I had a plan. Right. I mean, I'm making this up as I go along. I don't know about that. I mean, seriously, you know, it's like if they come along, sure. But I'm kind of going out and looking for something funny. It's also, you know, I know how kind of that's a dangerous thing to do. Right. You know, it's like the first night out, I read the script and I laughed out loud.
17:26Yes, I love that movie. So that was like an easy pick. And then, you know, Ryan's one of the most talented writers there are. I love him. He just kind of keeps going and keeps getting at it and keeps getting into it. And this next one's going to be different. And, you know, we've kind of gone, I mean, it's not wildly different, but it's going to be definitely kind of got a different tone to it. Oh, wait, there's a third. There's one you're doing now? There's a third one we shot at the summit. It's called Wake Up Deadman. Oh, wow. It's like plugging the movie. Yeah, no, no, please. Come on. Yeah.
17:55Right. But I mean, you know, you say that there's no, like that you have some sort of a plan or something. But I would guess that somebody who is approached for something as iconic as Bond and the kind of intelligence that you have, you probably had some thoughts and some talks with some people about, okay, if I did this, I've got to do this. But if I did this, I would need to kind of have a plan to how to occupy myself in between those movies and what to do afterwards. and so... Which I just fucked up. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it's kind of perfect and we're going to get to queer soon, which is a perfect balance.
18:34By the way, you didn't need to plan for anything. I guess we're going to get to them right now. Go ahead.
18:41There's our clip. Go ahead, Sean. No, I was going to say, you didn't need to plan because those movies were fucking exhausting, I'm sure. Yeah. Didn't you need to recover I think there was a feeling when I first started that because I'd had exactly what you said, those conversations, and I talked about it to everybody I knew and all my family and all those things about what does it mean? Of course I've got to do it. I've got to do this, but what does it mean? I mean, you know, how it's going to affect my life and all those things. And there was a sort of, I suppose, an instinct in me to sort of want to go, okay, I'm doing Bond now.
19:16I've got to do other stuff as well to kind of counterbalance this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like fucking ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I need to take a nap. I was fucking exhausted. I was like, so as much as the moves I did in between I'm kind of like proud of and all of those things, I stopped. I just went, just do this. If I'm doing this, just do this. Just do this. And I don't have the headspace. I don't have the, I mean. I'm going to say something that's going to be, it's not controversial, but I know because the Bond fans in the Bond world, those fans are so vocal and dedicated, et cetera.
19:49But I will say that for me, and I loved all the prior Bonds. Everybody was great. So this is by no means an admonishment of what they had done. But you were the first Bond who was like a real, like, real man's man. Yeah. A hot piece of ass. And was tough. You were tough. This culture, where's it getting cultured? Yeah, exactly. But you came and you were tough. because I think that people will go like, how dare you, blah, blah. But you came out and you were like this tough, like you were like a real modern Bond in a way that I thought was really, really refreshing. I loved your Bond films, dude.
20:29I really did. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. And we will be right back.
20:37And now back to the show. My question is when you were doing the very first one, which I've seen a billion times. I've seen all of them a billion times. I literally could do like dialogue from it. I know I've seen my frame. Give it to me. Stop. What did you say? Take your hand away from your ear. Anyway, that was the first one. Anyway, so thank you, thank you. But wait, at what point? That would have been the line I remembered too. Go ahead. I literally just said it yesterday. It's iconic. Get through the choppers, right? It's up there with that. Oh, wait, Daniel. At what point when you were making that movie?
21:19Sorry, I think my phone's ringing.
21:26No, that kicked off the whole chase. Get your hand in here. Anyway, so when you were doing that movie, at what point in the middle of the movie were you like, oh, God, I bit off more than I could chew. This is really hard. Like, I don't know if I'm going to make it. Or were you like, oh, this is awesome. I can do this. All the stunts, all the bullshit that you put your body through. I mean, I was younger and I'm way too gung-ho. I was just, you know, I mean, I kind of threw myself. There was something, you know, the stuff guys were kind of saying, you know, do you want to do, yeah, I'll do, yeah.
22:00I was like, yeah, I know. But I had all this stuff going on. I mean, we started shooting in Prague in studios there and then we moved to the Bahamas. and then my agent, which was very nice, but then my agent sort of phoned me up and said, you might want to look at the internet. And the internet had just sort of blown up and done this like, fuck him kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Which was kind of like, and I kind of looked at it all and like, you know, the naive days when I used to do stuff like that. Like, oh, no, I'm going to look at it all and go down that rabbit hole and just chased it all night long and was like, oh my God, that's really intense.
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22:41And I kind of, I then sort of just had this sort of like, I don't know, I just sort of went, well, there's fuck all I can do about that. There's nothing I can do. And we're here and I know the script's good. And let's have a good time. And if it's a swing and a miss, great. If it's my last one, I'll walk away knowing that I did the best I could. I mean, it kind of, I mean, it sounds easy to say now. No, for sure. But it just, it was like, it just, I was like, let's get on with this. Let's do it. I just, you know. And do you think that sort of that trial by fire of being, because Bond, again, is so iconic, and by being put in the brightest of spotlights and being scrutinized so much sort of on social media or whatever it is online, do you think that that was a, were you able to carry those lessons on sort of post-Bond and in your normal, so as you, because we talk about it sometimes, what's the reaction to what people say in social media and everybody's got a voice and stuff.
23:43And everybody kind of puts it in a different place or deals with it differently. How does it affect your life? Do you think about it? I mean, I think the fame thing, I mean, I just had a complete nervous breakdown after it came out and sort of didn't leave the house for six months. But it was that. Really? I mean, I exaggerate, but I kind of was a bit like that. I just got like, oh my, I mean, it was like. Well, it's a level of fame and recognizability that is not something that one deals with quickly and easily. Well, and who do you talk to about it? I mean, I suppose you go, I'm going to phone up someone really, really famous.
24:15I mean, it's like, I mean, I don't know what you say. Yeah, or if you talked to the butcher or your friend or somebody who's not working and they're like, oh, boo-hoo, you're James Bond. Right, exactly. Right, so where does that healthy level of indifference come from about whether it works or not and I'm going to still just be me even if it doesn't or this fame stuff? Like, was your, did mom give you a good head on your shoulders or was it sort of, were you kind of self-taught? I think there's a, I've just got a very, you know, down-to-earth family who do not shy away from telling me what, you know, a low life I am.
24:49Yeah. You know, I mean, it's like, and that really helps. And just, yeah, coming, I don't know, I'm from the north of England, sort of more kind of like sort of practical, sort of like pragmatic way of looking at life maybe. I also got into that thing of, you know, very early on. I mean, there's so much. I went to drama school, and there's that terrible thing of drama school is that like 90 % of the year don't get to work. It's like that's the attrition rate. And you go into the business. There wasn't social media, so there wasn't another outlet to try and become famous. It was just like, you know, you got a job or you didn't get a job, and mostly people didn't get a job.
25:24And I know that somebody gave me a great bit of advice very early on. while at drama school, a great director who just said, don't ever, ever, ever get bitter. Don't get, you know, because bitterness is just the thing that will just eat you up, because there's always somebody going to get the job over you. There's always somebody going to, you know, and if you kind of only look at other people in the business with jealousy, then you'll kind of, that'll define you. And it doesn't matter if you then get success, you'll still kind of, I get jealous all the time, I'm jealous of every fucking actor out there who gets a job that I'd like.
26:00But I kind of, I admit to it. Yeah, right, right, right. But that's good. We had the same, we used to talk about it all the time. I remember it was years ago when people would start to work. And as you say, most of the time, most of us were not working and somebody would get a good job and whatever. And I always stayed friends with, we sort of cultivated. The people who were working. Yeah, that's a good point. They'll always get dinner. Yeah. But it was also like, we genuinely rooted for each other and anybody and sometimes there would be somebody who would come in the group who was you could tell was keeping score no and then you would just weed them out and you'd weed them out and you'd be like I'm not here I can't be friends with people who are keeping score I just can't I agree there's enough for everybody and if you're not in the mindset of rooting people on then like you say you're bitter and then fuck then you're fucked you're fucked you're fucked that's why I thought I just read something recently where you said and it made me laugh out loud when somebody asked you, who do you think you should pass the torch on to for James Bond?
27:02And you said, I don't care.
27:06It's basically not my business. JB, that is sexy indifference. Somebody else's fucking problem. Oh, that's so great. It made me laugh out loud. So then coming up and starting to do some jobs and kind of starting to make a living a little bit from it, perhaps, were there some other, I'm sure that there were some other jobs that you were doing to kind of pay the bills. I mean, I left home at 16. I went and joined a thing called the National Youth Theatre in London. So I left Liverpool. Liverpool was like early 80s, as depressed as, I mean, so much. It's come up now and the city's doing great, which is just wonderful.
27:46But at the time, it was seriously depressed. We had a sort of Trotskyite local council that was hated by Thatcher who she starved money. I mean, it was like the whole thing was just like, employment was like, I can't even know, like 35 % or 36%, but it was through the roof, whatever it was. And there was not a lot of job prospects. And I was playing with the idea of joining the Navy. I was playing with the idea, you know, I was doing all those things going, well, what do I do? What the fuck is it? There's nothing to do. And there was a thing called the National Youth Theatre and it did a summer course and my mother was a teacher and it was on the board at her school and she went this.
28:20And I went and auditioned for it in Manchester. I got in and she sort of kicked me out the door. And she went, you've got to go, you've got to go, go, go, go. And it was partly her ambition because actually she'd got into RADA, which is, you know, the kind of top, the top sort of drama school, certainly of those years, when she was 17, 18. And there was no money to go. There was, you know, there was like, because it was, you know, she didn't, the family just didn't have the money. So she didn't tell me that until about 10 years ago, actually. Oh, wow. Wow. But her ambition for me was just to get going.
28:55Wow. She must have been absolutely thrilled with your success and the arc of your success too, yeah? Yeah, I mean, I think so, yes. Yeah, that's awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesome. And also, and when you say the arc too, because you earned it as well. Like, you know, you really... Oh, there she is. There's your mom. Look at that. We already tipped her, by the way. Don't quote. We got this. We got that. Listener, he just had some food delivered. I've got to have a bite of this. Go ahead. Go nuts. Go nuts. Enjoy. So this is a perfect time for me with a long-winded question here so you can chew. Now, let's see.
29:34Were there, there weren't any, well, you tell me. Were there huge influences or a particular one coming out of England? You were like, if I were to get some traction on this career, that is kind of the path I'd like to be on. Was it somebody in England or was it somebody in America? Was it always acting? Was it directing? The theater thing was the kicker. That was definitely the kind of thing that got me just, that's what I want to do. And I had some weird thing that I can do that, which is great. But, you know, it's just because I was a show-off. Right, right. I'm not dressing up. And I still do.
30:09Yeah. So it's like, you know, I mean, so. John Gielgud. Something like that. No? Yes. I mean, you know. Albert Finney. I mean, definitely that generation, Albert Finney's generation, and those guys, I mean, it's just that whole, you know, I suppose they're called the Angry Young Men, didn't they? Then you worked with Gambon, right? I did, yeah. Oh, my God. Lucky man. I mean, just a dream of a human being and one of the greatest actors ever. Yeah. It was film, really, and that was, we had a little cinema in the town I grew up in, which was, you know, a flea pit, proper kind of just like one screen.
30:52And all the movies at the time would do the kind of rounds of the country where they'd go to the big screens and things like that. And then by the time we got them, the movie had been out for like a month and a half. And the prints would, I remember, the prints were just terrible and kind of like that. But they just, they put films on in rotation. I mean, from Stripes to Quest for Fire to, you know, I mean, Blade Runner I remember seeing in the cinema on my own with kind of an orange juice. And this film came out. I had no idea. It was like blind. I was in there seeing a double bill. It was a Sean Connery space movie called Outland or something.
31:28Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. That was on, which was pretty great because it's a cowboy movie in space. Yeah. And then I kind of went and got a drink and came back and sat down on my own and Blade Runner started. And it was just like, I was like, and that... Was Harrison Ford a bit of a North Star for you? Well, it was the movie itself. It was the whole thing. I mean, sure, he is, of course. But the movie itself and the kind of, the fact that movies could look like that, feel like that and do that to you. It was just like the thing. I'd never kind of experienced it. And it felt like a movie that I discovered, that I was, and it was nothing to do with the Gone with the Wind or the kind of, It's like the, it's a wonderful life stuff.
32:11Or the Bond movies even. It was fantasy, yeah. That was part of. But ultimately kind of intangible though, right? I would imagine there you are sitting in this theater in this small town. You're like, well, I'm never going to make it to Hollywood. I'm never going to be up on a movie screen. That's a million miles away. I was an Erica little bitch. You actually thought, there is a shot. There's a shot. If I play my cards right. I don't know. I mean, it's hindsight, isn't it? That sort of says it. But there was something about. You thought it was possible. which is the key, right? He's like, why can't...
32:42Well, but you also got accolades when you were doing theater enough to know that you had something to offer. It was a thing that happened. I kind of left drama school and went and did... I went and did a John G. Avilstone movie called The Power of One with Stephen Dorff. I love Stephen. Scored by Hans Zimmer. I mean, amazing. Wow. He's amazing. Really kind of weird... I mean, not a weird movie, just a kind of movie of its era. Yeah. playing the bad guy and kind of it was just this sort of event that happened but it was a movie and I then came out I didn't work for a lot did some theater and then started getting TV roles little guest roles and things like that and suddenly then I got kind of a lead in a TV role and suddenly the money started it wasn't great but it was like this is like this is like kind of life changing money in the sense I might be able to afford a house soon.
33:36This is all coming. Still living in England? Still living in England. I'd gone to LA after the power of one and it was like 1991 and arriving here. Wow. It was like, it was like a I mean, well, it kind of and kind of not because I was so like green and naive. I landed in this town. I didn't have a driver's license and have a credit card. They checked me into the Universal Sheraton, which is I realize now is an island where you need a car to get off it. I mean, it was, and I kind of went to the front desk and they said, credit card, and they went, and they were looking at me like, so I had to embarrassingly call up Warner Brothers and get them to put some money down on the desk and do all these things.
34:19Wow. And then John Diabelson very nicely was sort of pushing me slightly because he's like, you kid, this kid's got it, this kid's got it. He was pushing me slightly. So I went up for auditions and in the movie I was playing, you know, a Nazi kind of South African bad guy. And I was going up for Nazi South Africa bad guys. I mean, that was it. I went up for like five auditions and it was all for Nazis. And I just was like, I've got a bit more range than this, I think. And suddenly there was an offer on the table from a manager, why don't you stay and we get you accommodation, blah, blah, blah, blah.
34:58And I did these five auditions and I went, whoa, no, this is going to go really wrong. And I don't know what it was. It was just like, where these thoughts came from, I have no idea. But they were just like, this is not the career I want. Right. So I went home. Back to England. Back to theater. Back to England. Well, sort of back to thinking, well, I've got a bit of money now, so it's okay. But then suddenly I started getting bigger roles in television. And I realized that was a mistake. Because I looked at these television stars at home, and God bless them. They're earning money, and they've got the house in Portugal.
35:32and they're thinking, yeah, they're set. Set. It's great. I want to make movies. I want to make movies. Good for you. And the British movie industry didn't exist. Right. It was just, I mean, there were amazing movies coming out. You think about, you know, like... Room of the View. I mean, Room of the View, but I'm talking kind of like... No one was ever going to cast me in because I wasn't a floppy, fringed kind of posh boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. Like the sort of the... So there was lots of brilliant directors, like, you know, my beautiful lingerie and things like that, things like that were going on.
36:08But that was a kind of, you know, you had to know the director and things. Yeah. I sort of plugged away at it until someone gave me a break. But what was the shift in that British film? For me? Film. You mean? Yeah. I did a film called Love is a Devil. And that got some traction for you? It's as these things do. And like I say this to kind of young actors who talk about kind of, you know, you know, when the break comes and I'm going to do this thing. It's like believing producers say, this is going to be good for you, this is going to be good for you, this. It doesn't happen like that in the industry.
36:40It's tectonic. It's like it rolls around. You get the break like someone comes and sees you in something or sees you in something. A year later, they might go, let's get that guy. And you can't rush these things. So I did things and I just kept on going and eventually sort of something, momentum started happening And then I don't know what kind of went down. I did a TV series and then wrote a petition. Like, you know, Sam cast me and wrote a petition and then Munich. Now, did you know Sam Mendes before that? To say hello to. Yeah. So then when you auditioned, I'd imagine that was an audition, not an offer.
37:17It was a friendly face in the audition room. I blew it. You did? I completely blew it, yeah. Not a good audition. No, come on. No. Terrible audition. Did you apologize after your audition? as you're leaving. I'm so sorry you had to see that. Good luck with the project. Oh, my God. That's my go-to.
37:39It works. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it works, yeah. No, I just, I was, I was supposed to have sort of learned this Chicago accent and for some reason, I didn't. And for the audition, I kind of, I really, because he'd sort of kind of, he hadn't offered it to me, but he'd sort of said to me, we really want you to play the part. And I thought, well, that's an offer. And they said, now you've got to fly out to Chicago and audition. I was like, oh, really? Yeah. So I didn't really do enough work on the part. I kind of went, did this terrible reading. And he sort of went, stop, stop, you've got the job.
38:10Oh, no way, any boy. I sort of, I kind of, you know, battered him down with terrible acting. It's a ploy. All right, so then you're on set, and you're working with Tom Hanks and Paul Newman and being directed by Mr. Mendes. uh were was that um was that did that did you get winded um or was it just sort of like yeah this is kind of it's about time and this is what i've been trying to do i've been trying to avoid the other stuff and now i've landed in this sort of the lane i want to be in a little bit i mean combo i mean i would i i kind of yeah i mean i just felt i felt like terrified and all of those things but like you're here now right you better fucking you better deliver you better deliver because yeah did you find that you had a gear that you didn't know that that that could kind of boost you up and and so you don't didn't have a panic attack and you you you held your own yes i mean i suppose what it was i what what what really calmed me when it boils down to it you're on set with one of the greatest living actors of all time and paul newman and paul newman um and both both of them but very very very different actors but paul newman um who i've you know idolized and watching him work you realize oh god he's an actor yeah and it's just that sort of like that in itself was like he's i can't talk to him about he wants he wanted to talk to me about racing cars i was like going four wheels i mean yeah you know i just like he's like talking about like i mean i just how why why the indie series was so much better than grand prix series i was like yeah yeah i mean it was like um i couldn't but when it came down to it and watching and working him with him i had a language that i could speak to him in because i'm an actor he's an actor and he really is you know and he'd struggle and he'd really be kind of trying to find it and things and I'd just be like, oh, wow, great.
40:07That's what I do. Oh, good. And that kind of just, so I can get, you know, I mean. He forgets a line too sometimes. Right. Yeah. That's great. That's really cool. Yeah, that's really interesting, that idea of being with Paul Newman and watching him kind of find it in the scene. That is the opposite of making you nervous. It actually calms you because you see him as human. Yeah, you must have had a complete, like your nerves must have been absolutely settled in that moment. I was like, we can do this. We can make this happen. We're playing. Suddenly we're like, we're here to play. Great, I know how to play.
40:44Fascinating. One time I was doing the bucket list with Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman and I was in a scene with Jack Nicholson. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And he turns to me and he goes, during rehearsal he goes, do you know what you mean when you say that line? I go, yeah, do you? Like, what? You're sick. I had to say that. You're a dick. I had to say that to relax myself because I couldn't believe I was in a movie with Jack Nicholson. We'll be right back.
41:18And now back to the show. Now, Daniel, when you were very quickly after that sort of vaulted into much more of a leadership position on the jobs that followed, Did you take that experience with you as a leader and see the younger actors or the actors with lesser parts get a little sort of nervous? And did you lend some of that comfort to them by, not intentionally forgetting a line, but did you take some of those leadership lessons? By being completely shit. It really just settles everybody's nerves. Oh my God, fuck me. Take a panic attack. That's how he's going to do it. I don't know. I mean, I feel like part of my job is to, you know, you're on set.
42:07You know, I love being around actors. I love being, you know, it's fun. It's a lot of fun. And if you have somebody who is, you know, there for a bit, short day, I have a thing. It's like, you know, it's like my favorite movies. It's those small parts that zip out, that make the movie sometimes. It's like you encourage them to be the best they can because it's like, you know, it's like smallest cogs, all of that shit. Sure, there's no small parts, just small actors. Exactly. What about siblings? Do you have siblings? I have a half brother and a sister, an older sister. And a completely different career path than you.
42:45Completely different, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm kind of the only actor in the family. And I want to talk about eggs that you just ate. Do you always watch what you eat when you're on doing these junkets? Like, you didn't want to touch the potatoes. I was just watching you garble those eggs. Sean knows, can he send a guy over to pick up the potatoes?
43:04There's somebody at your door right now, Daniel, if you don't mind, just real quick. Just slide the potatoes under the door.
43:12No, are you always like that, or do you go off the rails sometimes and just... I do. I mean, I don't... I used to have a... I used to swing... Okay. On Bond. I finished the sentence. Yeah, right, here we go. So, bless that. That's not a good word. On Bond, I would, you know, because of the intensity, I would sort of then spend the next sort of three, four months sort of being drunk and eating. Yeah, yeah. And that's not good for you. So, you know, so I don't, I stopped doing that and sort of like said, okay, let's maintain my fitness. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you always look great.
43:46Thank you. It gets so hard after 50, yeah? I mean, we're all in order to 50. It's so depressing. It's so depressing. I remember putting my mom up a few years ago and going, oh, my fingers are aching. Welcome to my world. I've got all these little hot spots on my hands now that it hurts between this finger and this finger. And right at the base of the thumb there, it's like, what's going on? I had this treatment the other day where they gave me this infrared thing where they kind of map your body infrared and my hands were on fire. And they were like, oh, what's wrong? And I'm like, I don't know.
44:21What is wrong? It's like, it hurts. I'm not 20. Wait a second. Wait, Sean, you did a similar. No, JB, you did a map thing. I did the full body scan, yeah. Full body scan. And it was, thank God, it was all good. But it's kind of cool that they can do that now. What did they find in the place where the human heart normally is? Not much. There was like a little movie camera roll. Just a bunch of loose nuts and bolts. Wait, Daniel, also just meeting you for the first time, I sense that your brain works really, really fast. like you're hyper intelligent and you kind of have to when you're doing all the things that you do what do you do to I'm not getting that Sean really I do I get that you're like your brain like works really really fast like you're eating the eggs and you're finishing the story and then you're going like he's not a dummy okay I know that's what I'm saying Sean's so shocked how is he chewing and walking at the same time by the way this is coming from a guy who spends like a Monday afternoon mid afternoon watching videos of childbirth So it's not like he doesn't have a lot going on.
45:24Yeah. It's going to feel like a compliment's coming, but the curve is... Yeah. The bar couldn't be fucking lower. No. It is a big compliment because you have to think, you constantly have to think fast of what you do. You're like, the camera's there, my line's here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you have kids and you have the thing. So your mind's always going, what do you do to calm down?
45:46I don't know. I mean, it's just being at home. and I like to, I really, really, really don't play tennis. I'm so terrible. But if I can convince, you know, like a tennis pro or someone to hit a ball with me, I'll do that for two, three hours at a time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just kind of like, and you know. No golf for you. Yeah, what's the screen? Ruins a good walk. What are you talking about? Yeah, that's true. But it is a nice walk. It is a great, great walk. I love that. Now, what about, now, you've been to all these incredible, in all the films you've done, all these incredible locations around the world, is there a spot that calms you more than any?
46:24A favorite spot? I think if I'm going to really relax, the sea is like the place I want to be because it's like... I'm with you. I just want the salt water, and I want the sun, and my body kind of, again, with the aches and the pains. Yeah. You're not a boat guy, though, are you? Are you a guy that... Not really. No. They're a lot of hard work. I have like two fan stuff can we just get it out of the way? yeah of course man because Scotty my husband and I watched all your films like a billion times Javier Bardem and you probably have the greatest hero villain chemistry of all time like just incredible what do you tell Tracy what that's for Tracy's that's from oh my god that's from Skyfall thanks that is going and do you Adele you have to sing Adele when you say the net title no you don't go ahead with the question no I just it's just a comment not a question it's just a comment like that was incredible and do you guys still do you still keep in touch with Javier I do see I talk to him occasionally and yes I love him to death he's just he's less like he's a glorious human being and then the other thing was and you can think about it while we talk about other stuff unless you have to go is a great theater story.
47:44I was asked, like, people with theater stories. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, scenes falling, like, people throwing up on stage, like, anything like that. I've done all that. I've done all that. Really? Yeah, I've done all that. You name it. The amount of theater you've done is just stunning. You name it, I've done it. It's happened on stage. What do you think was the worst thing that happened where you were, like, fucked up a performance? Stopped the show. Or, like, an audience member? Yeah. I don't, I haven't, it hasn't, I mean, I've been at the theater when it was actually Liev Schreiber was doing, what were they doing?
48:15View from the Bridge, but where literally someone had a thing, an attack, and Liev actually got to say, is there a doctor in the house? I was like, wow, it's like, and there was. The guy was fine, and it was all good. It was kind of like, yeah, they stopped the show. So the amount of work that goes into doing theater at the level that you've done it and that Sean just did.
48:42I'm sure you can't compare that to the kind of rigor it takes to get through a huge, huge film, but is it somewhat comparable? And if so, which do you prefer as far as what takes most out of you? I think a movie takes the most out of you because I think it's a seven-day-a-week job. There's no day off, really, because there's always something to do on whatever. Either you're doing a five-day week or you're doing a six-day week. You've got to kind of, you're either rehearsing something or you're... Studying. Studying something. So the intensity of that is like, there's nothing. And a play, once it's up and running, gets its own kind of momentum.
49:21I mean, if it's an emotionally difficult play, then obviously it's kind of like it gets, you know, but you sort of tend to be able to kind of like spend the day not thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then go and do it. Do you see yourself staying on screen until you're old and gray and in the ground? Or would you like to sort of throttle back and just have the last section of your life, whenever that starts, just on theater? Because that's something that I kind of fantasize about. It's just like moving to New York and becoming a theater actor and just like riding my bike to the theater. It's very attractive.
49:57Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Depends how big the bills are, isn't it, right? Yeah, that's true. Well, back to the TV stars. Yeah, exactly. I mean, right. So, I don't know. I did work with Gielgud. I worked with Gielgud on two jobs. He was actually in The Power of One. You know, he played the headmaster at this school. And I did have a scene with him, but I met him. I met him around the back of the set, because I'd gone around to have a cigarette back in the day when I smoked. And there he was, smoking. And he kind of went, oh, don't tell anybody I'm not supposed to be smoking. And I was like, we had a cigarette together and had a chat, which he was like, you know.
50:38And then I did Elizabeth about 10 years later. And he must have been well into his 90s by then. Wow. And it was kind of, why is he working? Because his boyfriend liked diamonds. I mean, it was kind of like, he was like, that was the response, you know. and he was wheeled in and I kind of thought I had the scene with him just to sort of like, he was playing the Pope and I was playing this Jesuit mass murderer. Easy role. And I just sort of, I kind of went and sort of took care of him. My instinct was to sort of, hello sir, how are you? You probably don't remember we had a cigarette together, you know, of course he didn't remember.
51:23but he was like I could see the age and it was like oh my god wow he's really kind of is he going to be able to remember his lines the board went on bang just showed up the back went up and he was just like and he did the scene it was like oh my it blew everybody away and then kind of went back and it was like wow that's and I kind of was like that's amazing but I was also kind of like I don't know if you've ever ridden a horse in a movie they have they have to retire movie horses because they learn the board. You know, they learn when the slate comes in and they hit it whack, it's time to go.
51:55Yeah, so I've been, I've sat on horses that are kind of like, wait a minute, you know, because I don't ride very well, so stick him on that neck, you know, because it's like and they're kind of like there, trying to pull its head up, trying to look cool, which is just like, look, it's like it's going to die. And they put the board on it, and it's like, oh my God, Jesus Christ! And they can't, they have to retire these horses, and I thought, oh my God, you're a film horse, that's kind of what do I want to turn into a film horse? Wow. When that board goes on, oh, yeah, here we are. At the same time, I mean, maybe there's a little bit of sort of wisdom in staying active in that way is part of the reason that he was able to stay, you know, into his 90s.
52:33I mean, maybe do a crossword, I don't know. Yeah, because otherwise he's in Portugal, right? No, totally, totally, I get it. I mean, going back to that hysteria in the school play, that thing, that drug, that thing that gets you See why I brought it back? That's really good I like it, I kind of wanted to get back I'm glad you mentioned that because I kind of wanted to go back to that moment you're in the theater and go all the way back to that moment you're in the theater and you're watching Blade Runner because it really made me think about I was going to bring this up before and I was going to ask you guys, what is that thing?
53:07What was that sort of seminal moment in your life? What was the film, the book that you read and do you go back and still because I have found now that I'm in my 50s I'm now re-looking for moments like that where I get inspired. I'm reading a book right now. It's called Midlife Crisis. It is a midlife crisis. Believe me. I should be wearing a fucking hat the last 10 years that said, ask me about my midlife crisis. Yeah. But, and yes, I had a Porsche, obviously, and I've had, but all of that, do, you know, do you guys, have you guys had those moments? Do you remember being young in a book or a film or something?
53:44Yes, mine is 11 years old. I was 11 years old. My brother took me for my 11th birthday. My brother Kevin took me to go see E.T. And I was 11 years old. And everybody in the theater was crying, as they were at the end. And I said to my brother, I said I'd give anything to be him. And my brother thought, like the fantasy, like, oh, Elliot, to have a friend like E.T. And I go, no, I'd give anything to be Henry Thomas, who played Elliot. And my brother's like, the actor? And I was like, yeah, to make people feel that? that would be amazing JB anything do you remember a moment you were inspired by something Matthew Broderick do Brighton Beach Memoirs on Broadway I think I was like 15 or something and I could have gone there was like I was a fork in the road I could have stopped doing what I was doing but I saw him do that and I just had such a good time and I was like oh I want to I want to do that I love that yeah yeah yeah yeah for me it was it wasn't even singing for me it was I was 17 I remember this so clearly and I read On the Road by Jack Kerouac.
54:45And it sounds so cliche, but fuck, I was like, you can get out into the world? And that was actually spurred me to go, I can move to New York. And I moved when I was 20. And it was like, yeah, fucking Kerouac. That's what they did. Where did you grow up? In Toronto. Oh, right. In Canada. And you're like, that's what you do. If you want to be out in the world, you got to get out into the world. And that really spurred me on for the rest of my life, I think. I love that. Daniel, what's going to happen with you for the rest of the day? And by the way, We're going to talk about Queer. I want to hear a little bit about Queer.
55:15So Queer's out December 13th. You read the script. You think immediately. Do you think about the character? Are you thinking about that incredible director, Luca Guadagnino? Or what? What's going through your mind? All of that. Yeah, all of that. I wanted to work with Luca. I think he's just a really exciting kind of out there director who's just pushing it. So it was a pretty quick yes. yes totally yeah and the script you know was I mean yeah I mean getting offered a really complicated interesting funny sad human being to play I can't wait to see it I know me too me too congratulations on that yeah thank you yeah alright you're done you've done great yeah you can get your cold eggs there I'm very sorry it's alright I'm just not going to eat the potatoes in front of you.
56:13Sean will be here soon. But that's my personal, I've got a problem with that. I'll take him off your head. I have to go into a dark cupboard and eat potatoes. Wait, Daniel, how, like, do you live in the UK? I do. I lived in New York for nearly 20 years, no, 15 years, and moved back to London this summer. And do you love visiting LA? Are you like, I'm in, I'm out? I mean, it's kind of, you know, it's love-hate. It's all that thing. It's like I really, I do love this, and I love California, and I love, I just, I went to the desert for a couple of days before I started this to get some kind of R &R.
56:49Good, yeah. And, you know, it's like there's no place like this on earth. And then I want to go, and then I want to leave really quickly. Yeah, yeah. Now, last question, do you still follow Liverpool at all? Yes, yeah. You do? I do, yeah, religiously, yeah. Yeah, same. I don't get to many games, sadly, but now I'm back in England. I'm hoping to get to many games. Let's come in the new year. I'm going to come over there. Let's go to a game. Let's make this play. I would really like that. Okay, great. Yeah, I really like that. Daniel, thank you so much for doing that, pal. Thank you so much. Thank you.
57:17Huge of your day. Yeah, thank you. All right, buddy. Bye. Take care. Thank you. I don't know how to stop this. Slam it. There you go. Now, there's a guy's guy. He's a woman's guy, too. And he slammed the computer. You know, that's a great sign. Yeah, yeah. I really do. He is. He's great. Like, you know, how do you talk to him without bringing up James Bond? I can't tell if he's sick of it. I think we did a good job of not peppering him with all the shit he's been asked, maybe. I don't know. I've never seen an interview with him. I mean, I always say this on this little podcast of ours. It's like, when I meet people I've never met before like that, and I'm huge fans, of course, I want to ask them all the fan questions, but I'm nervous.
57:57Yeah. I know. You know? How many films have you seen a billion times? I want to get down to your numbers now. Yeah, I mean, I mean, honestly, I've seen that so many times. I've seen all of them so many times. But Skyfall is Scotty's favorite. And we've seen that many times. That's incredible. Skyfall? You've never seen Skyfall? That's the one, right? Oh, it's so good. Wait, are you kidding, Jay? It's so good. Invite me over for Christ's sake. Wait, Jason, Skyfall is amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. And you love Javier Bardem. He takes his teeth out and it's fucking crazy. Spoiler alert. Wait, what's your favorite line that he ever said?
58:32Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, my ear. I hear it through my ear. Take your hand away from your ear. Take your hand away from your ear. Oh, what a line. Is James Bond around? That was another one. No, but... Go ahead. Go ahead, Sean. Oh, Sean, I know you were going to say, fuck me, dude. Watching your face try to line up a vibe. Because he looks down at the computer because he kind of works on them, I think. Of course he does. No, no. I had one. I have one. Have we ever gotten a bunch of suggestions from our listeners of what we can do for our buys? I know, but do we have a portal for them to fill? A portal?
59:14Do we fill our portal? What do you mean? Or some sort of a site they can put all these recommendations so we can stop listening to Sean's shitty buys. But also, it's not the shitty buys. No, it's not. It's the way he goes, blah, blah, blah. And he goes, yeah, so also I was thinking that... and you're like, fuck, dude. Here it comes. What are you doing? No, I was going to say, what does Stye, what does Jason Stye rhyme with? No, that's no good. Will, you got one? I don't have one. That's mine. No, I'm glad that it's... You should be guest related. You know, it should be tied into the guest somehow.
59:50Well, I mean... Skyfall, its original title was... Bye! Bye!
59:58Sounds like you got yourselves in a little bind. Robby! Smart Less
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