"Jake Gyllenhaal"

27:46Do they still give you input when you work on something? Yeah, particularly with writing and even in development of things and things like that. My sister wrote her first screenplay and wrote and directed it and to great success. Yeah. And then she just wrote another one and she's directing it. It's this amazing thing. And my mom is a big part of it. You know, my sister sends me the script. She sends my mom the script. My mom and her will talk through things. You know, she's a real mentor. And that is a massive thing to have in your back pocket. Yeah. And do you find like, I think naturally any child is always looking to impress their parents when they're tiny.

28:29And then as you grow older, you start to meet other adults. You become an adult yourself. But since you started with the entertainment industry and your parents were in it, do you find that they still occupy the major sort of North Star? you kind of point your efforts towards and look for their approval and their review of things. Do you know what I mean? I certainly do. I'm still sort of a small boy kind of looking for dad's approval because that's where it all started there. He taught me how to act. He taught me how to direct. And I like that. I like that I'm not over that. Aren't we all? I mean, yeah, in one way or another, definitely.

29:11I think also, though, there's a sense of just for me now, you know, because there's all that stuff. like work is so it becomes like a big thing, you know, with all of our families, you know, if our parents are working, like you hear about their work, right? It's just inevitable, right? The vocabulary becomes part of it. To me and me and my sister in particular, and my family more and more as, as all that stuff gets into your life, and you're doing that, we tend to now try and just work on the family stuff, you know, because that's just like, to me, that's where that's what I've grown to care about most you know I I in the end no matter what we all do and what we create like it all comes down to them being there no matter what right they'll be there yeah and and do you have other siblings is it just you and Maggie I have a little half-brother um I mean he's a half-brother he's he's also little my my dad had another uh child and so yeah and so but he's my half-brother is my sister's half-brother and but my sister and I you know grew up together just think yeah and then what about like you you and maggie've had uh i'm i'm assuming a very positive experience of being in this business and you've been able to to to i mean transition from from child actor into adult actor and incredibly successful both of you um do you imagine that you would be supportive of your children going into this because i get this question all the time How do you – My answer is always, yeah.

30:38I mean I can't be hypocritical. I've had a great experience and it's been challenging, but it hasn't been detrimental or damaging. I would just make sure that I would condition my child or explain to my child what to look out for and what to not and what it is and what it isn't and just manage their expectations and then after that let them make their own decision. But, I mean, at 10 years old, which I was, and I think you were right around the same age, can you really assess all of the pitfalls such that you make a good decision i don't know i don't i mean i think i would my parents did a very smart thing which is they were like you need to get an education you know they were very early on they were like i was like i just want to do this thing you know and they were like okay cool great you can keep doing that but you don't need to do it in like the deep end right yeah or in lieu of yeah yeah exactly and you know socializing you know is was a huge thing you know go be amongst kids you know who are tough on you you know what i mean not just in an adult world yeah if you can balance it if you can handle it go for it yeah exactly and then the yeah no go ahead no no i just to me like that's what i would do i think you know it you know we can be admit it's it's not a normal life you know in that way you know and so it's just important to to get perspective you know the the and and i read that you when you were a kid, you also used to volunteer at a homeless shelter and you celebrated your 13th birthday at one?

32:01Wow. Is that true? My mother's Jewish, my father's Christian. And so, you know, they're not practicing very heavily, but they, and so my, they had a bit of a dilemma in my, you know, bar mitzvah moment, you know, quinceanera sort of situation. They didn't know really how to celebrate. You had a combo bar mitzvah quinceanera? No. At a homeless shelter, so you got a deal on the venue. Basically. A deal, a real deal. Everybody showed up, too. Yeah. No, but it was, yeah. And so one of the things was they were like, you know, my father was very big about passages, you know, and that's what it was. They agreed that there was like a passage of time and you were walking through this space and these are the qualities that, you know, they wanted me to understand.

32:51And so they decided instead of something more formal, like we do all these different things. And one of them was, yeah, we went to a homeless shelter on my birthday and fed the homeless, yeah. Wow. So it sounds like they started you out with just a great set of values, a great guide in which to sort of be a decent person. And you seem to have really held on to that. I mean, you know, you're just a really kind person and you've managed to acquire a great deal of success. is it is it you know we're in such a permissive culture and atmosphere with what we do is it a constant how much of a struggle is it for you to not take advantage of all the sort of latitude of people like yourself are given on set off of set do you know what i mean because it's it's i don't know did they raise you well enough where it's not that much of a battle I mean, I'm obsessed with my work.

33:53I love my work, right? And I dig into characters that I do, do you know? And so that's sort of where I, like, to me inside that, learning it has been, that's, like, learning how to be an actor is a different thing, right? Like, I don't think my parents were, they were not actors, right? So it's a completely different scenario. They were teaching you how to be a good person, not a good actor, yeah? Right, I mean, they were sort of teaching, I mean, they were, you know, they were like, learn, read great plays, you know, try and perform them so you can understand. Prepping you for life in the arts.

34:24Yeah, kind of. I mean, for whatever I wanted, really, whatever I felt they were down for. But I think like, you know, yeah, I think that's always the question, right? Like we grow up in it. And when we grow up in it, it's a different thing. There are people who come into the business and they're, you know, they've experienced life and they experience success at a different age. And it's very interesting to watch people experience success at different ages. And I was so grateful to experience very early, but at the same time, it came with its own kind of growing up throughout the whole process.

34:57I just watched City Slickers the other night. I swear to God, I just watched it. And I was like, is that Jake Gyllenhaal? You were like five? How old were you in that? I was 11. And you can totally tell it's you. I never noticed that before. I was like, oh my God, Jake Gyllenhaal. Were you look like Billy Crystal's son? I was Billy Crystal's son. No way, really. And really Billy, like, yeah, he, like, found me. And he was like, there's something about this kid. I mean, I have a poster that still says, he signed a poster for me, for City Slickers poster, and it says, thanks for letting me be in your first movie.

35:33Like, he literally wrote that. That's cool. It was so cool. It's the best poster ever. And he is the fucking best. Yeah, he's such a nice man. Oh, such a nice man. And, like, I worship him. Like, I, it is very interesting. Who directed that? was that um ron underwood oh right yeah yeah yeah ron underwood who is who's ron underwood i don't know that good directed city slickers and then i love this you were cast in mighty ducks but you couldn't take it right or your parents didn't let you take it you know like when people ask you guys like oh did you you got that part but you didn't do that part like and then you're like why am i someone else did it it's theirs this is weird but uh and that's the story that it's like we all have i almost did the part that i'm never gonna do and you're and someone else did better than me so i Why are we doing?

36:18But I, yeah, I auditioned for it. And my parents would let me audition for things. And so without being like, oh, sweet Jake, he wants to go audition for something. Cool. And then I auditioned and I got it pretty much. And they were like, oh, shit. Right. You have to go to school. And I was like, no, I want to learn hockey, you know? Yeah, by the way, Will, we have a lot to talk about that because you should talk to my parents. I wanted to learn how to play hockey. Oh, it's the best. Where's your hockey passion now? Do you still have a hockey passion? No, I wasn't allowed it. I didn't do Mighty Ducks.

36:51But yeah, that was a thing. But a lot of the times, a lot of the roles, like Jar had, God, you're so fucking good on that. You've just done so many great movies. Yeah, and all these, you know, last year. I just got to say, I wish you had done fucking Mighty Ducks. Sorry, I was just thinking what could have been. I just thinking what could have been. I messed up. I messed up. But these roles in these big, huge movies that just seem to me, I could never do the things you do, they just seem like colossal undertakings as an actor. And the physicality that you take on is just remarkable. Like we were talking about at the beginning.

37:29You're brilliant, Sean. Thank you. I was waiting for that. We got it. He said it. But we do prefer a nice sitcom routine. It's six hours a day. You and I have sung together, by the way. I know. Wait, where? Where did you guys sing? Where? A whole new world. A whole new world, yeah. No way. It was an arranged marriage, wasn't it? Do you have theater stories? God, if you have a theater story right now, Jake. Jake, my favorite thing is medical stories and theater stories. I gotta say, I listen to you guys, and I just want to say that I have a great losing a contact story. Here we go. What the fuck?

38:02That was my fucking story. Yeah, yeah. Sean, get Scotty in here. This is bullshit. Like, yeah, I thought, oh. That's my part. She stole my part, you know? we'll be right back

38:19and now back to the show so there you are you're on stage what happened I'm on stage and so I did this show with Ruth Wilson called Constellations which is this amazing show two-hander it's 75 scenes in 90 minutes basically like and the changes of scenes it's about a couple and it's a bit like sliding doors-ish but it's about there are basically five scenes that happen over a couple's relationship. And within the five scenes, there are like eight scenes of the different potential things that could happen, right? So first they meet and then one of them's not into the other and the other one is.

38:54And then boom, the lights change and then the other one who wasn't into the other is into the other, you know. So it switches. Then they're both into each other. The next one, then neither of them are into each other. And then it moves forward, right? And so subsequently, actually, there gets to him asking her to marry him. and I had in tech, you know, like... The final rehearsals, right? The final rehearsals. For Tracy, yeah, it's the final rehearsals. I had said basically like, okay, we had one prop in the whole show. It's just two people on stage. We never left this platform, right? It was 90 minutes, never left.

39:27There was one prop and the prop was a ring in my pocket that I kept and you had to prebble stuff and I said to the stage manager, I said, can I just put some contact lenses under the stage in the back? because I just, I really am legal. I'm legally blind without contact lenses. Come on. No, no, I am legally blind. Like I cannot, I can't like function. Your contact's in right now? No, but you guys look great. I, so I, yeah. I would be deeply offended if we were making love right now and I found out you didn't have your contacts in. He didn't even bother. Okay. He didn't even bother putting his fucking contact lenses for us.

40:05He's like, oh, no, no, no. You know, like, so I just like, you know, actually, at the same time, I like, I had gotten into a little thing with Ruth early on because my brother-in-law, who's an amazing actor, by the way, he came to see me in previews and he gave me notes. And he gave me two notes. One note was he was like, still, there's power in stillness. Because I think I was moving around a lot and trying to get a lot of attention. And the next note was, don't let her upstage you. Is what he said. She kept walking upstage, huh? No, I mean, I think he actually meant like she's just a better actor than you.

40:38So just try harder and figure it out because she is a better actor than me. I learned that over the course of the run. Because Tracy, if an actor walks upstage, it forces you to turn your back to the audience to talk to that person. And now the audience can't see your face. They can only see the person upstage's face. And she does. She's just magical. Like she's just the type of actor that like I'd always talk about this. Like when Saturday nights, you know, you know, it's like the energy is so much more intense. Yeah. And Saturday nights, like, she would ride that energy like a wave. And I'd be like, oh, it's so intense.

41:10You know, like, oh. And she'd be like, see ya. You know, and they'd be like, the roof is incredible. You know. So he was like, just don't, try not to let her do that. Like, try and surf. Don't be afraid. You know. Yeah. And so we had gotten into a thing where, like, I was like, I was like, I feel like you're upstaging me. And she was like, oh, I'm not. I'm just like, you know, the actor bullshit. She's like, I'm not. What are you talking about? And I'm like, but like, can we just try and stay on the same line? Like, you know, like, cause this is about us, you know? And it was like, hold on. So anyway, the light changes, by the way, these big pops in the show.

41:43So you have about like a second and a quarter to kind of change. Right. And at the same time that I, in the, it's very hard to explain because I would put my hand in my pocket in the scene before I'm supposed to ask her to marry me because I pull out the ring and no one's seen a prop. And so they go, Oh, how'd you get that ring? Right. Right. But I put my hands in my pockets and the ring was not in my pockets. Jake. So I was like, it's the only prop. By the way, in tech, I was like, what if we, okay, I have contact lenses up there, but what if like I don't have the problem? They're like, dude, this is Broadway.

42:16We have a prop master who usually deals with a thousand props. He has one prop. Okay. So don't worry. You're going to have your prop. Okay. Don't worry. And I was like, I know, but like if like, they're like just, and I was like, can I just plead? They're like crazy. Sure. And they put it there. so I rub my eye contact lens falls out in the scene I put my hand into my pocket I can't find the fucking ring and I'm like oh my god I can't see anything and then Ruth and then I start to move up stage because I remember there's a contact lens in there and the ring is over there and Ruth starts looking at me like oh you motherfucker I know what you're doing you're going up stage you asshole you know it's on I was like, no, I can't see anything inside of her trying to communicate.

43:06And she thinks you're just winking at her constantly. Yeah, that's hysterical. I know what's up. And then as soon as I like, boom, lights pop, I run over, grab the contact lenses, grab the thing. And I put the contact lens in my eye because I can do it because I've been putting contact lens in my eye since I was a kid, like really, really young. Yeah. And then she's like, oh, oh, my God. Like she realized in the moment. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. I used to do this thing and promises promises that there's this guy, his name's... Thank you so much. By the way, beautiful, beautiful. Incredible.

43:37His name's Ryan, and we would give each other horrible, horrible shit, like right before we'd enter the stage. It's kind of like the three of us do, just like scathing, right? And he goes, I'm actually dead serious before. Tonight, can you make sure that during this one dance sequence, because you're blocking, you're just blocking me just every so i go ryan i'm gonna stop you i never look behind me on stage

44:09now jake if you're not acting if you're not um you know exercising being physical um what else are you doing to fill your time what is what you don't have any like are you a reader are you a TV watcher? Are you a painter? Do you love to knit? Speaking of knitting, I'm going to get my mom in here in a second because she's mad that you guys still haven't sent her a picture with the fucking sweaters. I did. Tell her to check a junk file. I collect shoehorns, actually. What? Dude. Yeah, that's a big pass-time I find. Oh my god. Hey, it's Sweden. Oh my god, so am I. Oh my god. Oh my god. You have no odd a hobby?

44:55I cook a lot. I cook a lot. I cook major. Yeah, I want to talk about cooking. I didn't know you cook. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're not cooking fatty shit. You're good at cooking like veggie stuff or macrobiotic or something. I mean... I cook everything. I love to cook. I love to shop for food. So then you eat what you want. You just make sure that you exercise a lot. No, I mean, no. I've actually, you know, I've tried all different things. I'm down with intermittent fasting. I really like that as an idea. because I tend to go like, I'm going to just overeat, you know? So instead I just go, we're just not going to eat today for a while.

45:28It's all or nothing. Are you sweet tooth or salty? What's your... Ultimately, I think I'm a sweet tooth, yeah. I just like, I'm a cake. I like cake. I have massive sweet tooth. I love cake. I'm a pie guy. Do you guys know Yossi Arefi, by the way? No. Her cookbooks? Uh-uh. She has this book called, I'm like, this is a shameless plug on her book, but it is incredible. It's called snacking cakes. Snacking cakes. Yeah, and there's also this lemon cake that she makes that has pieces, the recipe has pieces of the lemon in it. Right, so it's like, I don't know if you like a lemon cake. Love. I do, I don't wanna eat a piece of lemon though.

46:09No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You chop, it's small, it's in little pieces, but you get like this sort of burst of citrus, so to speak. A little zest. And like, you really do, no, it's like, I'm a sucker for glazes like that. Yeah. Would you be into that, Sean? You think you might be into a cake? I love like a lemon pound cake. Garbage can. No, I love that though. I got an ice cream maker for Christmas. I like baking. Well, you wanted to cut out the middleman. It was too much with the fucking sire to driving to the ice cream shop. Get out of the store. I'd rather just cry and make it while I cry, you know?

46:43Like I just... By this time next year, he's going to figure out how to make ice cream in his mouth. Yeah.

46:52Okay, wait. Wait a minute. I want to talk about Roadhouse because it comes out March 21st. I'm prime. Fuck. Which is really exciting. Wait, were you nervous to remake such a classic film because, you know, Patrick Swayze, we all love Patrick Swayze. I'm sure you're going to kill it, but were you nervous? I mean, I knew Patrick Swayze was in Donnie Darko, this film that I did. Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. That's right. Dude, Donnie Darko. No. Donnie Darko. Can I also just say before you get, Nightcrawler, I don't know why. It just occurred to me. I just remembered how much I fucking loved that movie, dude.

47:24All your movies. He was so great. It was such a good movie. So good. Didn't Bob Elswit shoot that? He did, yeah. He's a buddy of yours. The one time I've ever been in a room with him was at your house at a birthday party that you had, and I saw him walking around. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I know. He's a cinematographer, everybody, and he's a god. That movie's a fucking masterpiece. So anyway, so you're doing... I love that movie, too, but Roadhouse. So you worked with Swayze. we worked with Swayze and he was just the sweetest most generous kindest man I was like when we worked together and I Point Break was a movie that I watched maybe like maybe I've watched that movie more than any movie I've ever watched if I'm honest because I racked in so many hours from like nine years old to like admittedly 43 that I just love that movie so I you know and I love a lot of his movies and Roadhouse I remember these faint memories of the poster and I don't know where I remember seeing it.

48:21And then I also remember watching clips of it or it was on TV and being like, what is this? Like, it's like ingrained in my unconsciousness, this movie. And so like Doug Liman, who's a good friend of mine, we've been friends for 20 years. Brilliant, right, right, right. Brilliant. And he was like, we've been trying to find a movie for a long time to do together. And he was like, we were talking one night because we were talking about one other movie that he had sent me. We were talking about it. Oh man, that's interesting. And then he's like, you know, I do have this other idea. they just sent me this script of roadhouse it's like a reimagining of it and i was like i'm fucking in i literally i literally was i literally he said and i like i it was like the whoever saw those clips whoever it just came out of me like yeah i'm in wow and uh and so um i mean you you you filmed you filmed an actual fight with a live audience i went to the ufc to film Yeah, we went to the UFC and I filmed in the Octagon.

49:16What? It was crazy. Yeah, it was so fun. It was so incredible. It was incredible. They let us film there. The UFC was amazing. We, like, it was nuts. I was, like, high from it for four days after. Would you say that you got into the best sort of cardiovascular shape you've ever been in through grappling? Because, like, I mean, you think you're in shape until you start wrestling with someone. Like, it's like, it's crazy how tired you get, right? Try wrestling with Conor McGregor. I was just going to say, I can't believe, is this his first acting gig? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's his first acting. I mean, it depends on how much you consider the performance pre-fight, but yes, this is his first acting gig professionally.

49:57Wow, that's pretty wild. How was that process shooting in front of those crowds? I got to say, like, that mixed martial arts makes me nervous sometimes. Not just the crowds, it's a little... Yeah, they want blood. It's very dangerous. Yeah, it's like the Coliseum back in the old days. Yeah, it's like a little bit of Coliseum, but it's just like, it always makes me nervous because there's bloodlust, right? Like people are out there to really... Literally. You get on the canvas and like, you know, we were right before, you know, the main cards, right? One of the prelims? Yeah, so it was like post-prelims, it was pre-pay-per-view.

50:32Then we were told we were going to either get like 45 seconds or seven minutes. We didn't know because depending on how the earlier fights went, if they went all the way, if they finished in the first 30 seconds, like, that would accumulate our time, right? So they wouldn't guarantee us anything. But by the time we got there, there had been some really, really intense fights. And I walked up onto the canvas, and there was just so much blood on the mat. Are you kidding me? No, there's just blood all over the canvas. They don't clean it? No, it's canvas. Could you wear slippers during the... Oh, yeah, don't worry.

51:02I wore... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Feed condoms. There we go. No, I, I, it was, it's really, it's actually. Fateman's going to go wash his hands just to show you that story. One of the things they don't tell you about, Jason, is that, you know, in grappling in particular and mixed martial arts, you know, staff is like a big thing. And, and so, because like, they're just, everybody's grappling on these mats. Right. And actually when we were shooting, when we were shooting Roadhouse, I got staff. Yeah. We were shooting and my arm like blew up and I was like, what is this? I didn't know what it was. And I, here we go, Sean, here's a medical story.

51:34Yeah. I love it. And I thought it was because there's a big final fight between me and Conor McGregor in it. And Conor is amazing. I mean, he's amazing. And he coached me through a lot of our fights, right? He was like, he came in, he was like, I'm a white belt in this movie world, it's acting world. I'm here to learn from you. I was like, it was such humility. I said, well, I'm obviously less than a white belt in your world. So like, you tell me what you need me to do. Yeah, no, every time we'd have to say to Conor, like, they'd be like, we're rolling. okay marker and then it'd be like i'd have to say remember even two months into shooting remember don't hit me in the face like remember that and he'd be like oh yeah oh yeah right right right right right right it was that every time before every take yeah money maker money maker now so was the crowd aware that you guys were shooting a movie and were told to like just kind of cheer this fight on like you would no not all of them because some people were like well what they started to do is they picked up on us filming and then they realized that there was like kind of a good guy and a bad guy in the fight and then they started cheering when like i would throw a punch and they'd be like they'd be like yeah and then it was like 15 000 people oh nice cheering for this thing and that was accurate for the story like you were the good guy they had no idea yeah they had no idea wow where was it we were in vegas it was 285 i didn't i was supposed to do 283 and then I got the night before got COVID and we had the whole crew ready to go.

53:02And so we had to wait. What's 285? The number of fights. Oh, wow. Wow. And did you get hurt at all? During the filming? Yeah. The staph infection, right? All the time. Well, yeah. Yeah, but I mean. The staph infection in the end, I didn't know it was staph infection and I woke up and I was like, my elbow feels weird. I thought it was just because I had grabbed Connor like 30 times in this one moment. And I thought, oh, he was just. throwing this arm down on me and I was grabbing it so hard that I thought it just hurt my elbow. So I woke up in the middle of the night and I couldn't touch my elbow to the bed sheet.

53:34You're so lucky you didn't get hurt. You so easily could have just like something pop out, you know? Yeah. I mean, Sean, you said one time at work, right? Didn't you say that you sprained your ankle when you'd come out for curtain call on Will and Grace? By the way, sprained ankle is a real pain in the ass. It is. It's the worst. You tripped on Shimada's camera as you were coming out. Wait, Jake, you don't have to take those roles. Yeah, you don't have to take those roles. Why don't you get a nice sitcom or something? That's what I'm saying. Like, what is the draw? What is the wish? What's the matter with you?

54:10I would love to do a sitcom. No one thinks I'm funny. I would love to do a sitcom. Everyone's like, he's so serious. This guy's so serious. He thinks he's so serious. No, no, no. He, like, does all this stuff. Like, you know, I would love to do that. I'm doing this because this is what I got, guys. No other options. Nowhere else to go. No, I just love, I love that, like, I love the idea. Well, you're great at it. Yeah, well, you're so brilliant, you can do anything. You can just play anything. They came to me about Roadhouse 2, by the way. I didn't want to say anything because we were talking about roles we didn't do.

54:40It was different. It was more about eating. Don't even try Roadhouse 2. If I knew that you would have been in that movie, we would have had you in that movie. I was up for roadkill. But anyway, Jake, this is wonderful that we took up way too much of your time. You're so sweet to come by. You're very nice to be with us. Thank you, buddy. I'm so psyched to be here. So fun. I love your show. I am such a huge fan. I obviously adore you all from afar and close up. I invite you places you don't come. Will, I've literally invited you now, so if you don't come, then you're the same. I'm coming with the e-bike option.

55:19Do a test to my heart? Are you kidding me? I'm fucking stoked. And Jake, you'll come over. I'll make ice cream and we'll sing. Yes, by the way. Can we please do that? Yeah, I'd love to watch that. Please, Sean. Really? I would totally love to do that. Okay. Jake, thank you, buddy. All right, I love you, Jake. Thanks, guys. Love you guys. Bye, pal. Bye. Bye. That was nice to revisit with my old friend. I love him so much. She should have been my guest. He should have been your guest. It's so weird how that always works on our show, right? It's like oftentimes the person, the guest, the person who knows the guest the best usually is not the host.

55:56That's right. It's odd how that works. I don't know. Did you know him, Will, before? Not really. We've hung out once or twice just briefly and such a nice guy. But I don't really know him. And I knew, I'm just doing this because I like all the different apps. I knew. It's a computer, Jason. it's not going to work oh really it's got to be a phone you're on the phone will no i'm on my computer oh wait what it doesn't update you didn't update your computer obviously um but anyway uh so nice i didn't know jb i didn't know that you guys knew each other that way we we hung out we hung out for a bit uh there we got into sort of that bike riding routine for a while and then he got a job or i got a job and we just drifted and never got back on back on the bike um but he He is just a very, very normal, normal guy.

56:47And I think he's gotten younger since I saw him last. Yeah, I know. He looks super young. He looks amazing. Yeah. How old do we think he is? I would have a good time hanging out with him. Well, cool it. He's 43, I'd say. Is he? Oh, wait. He said that, didn't he? Yeah, I think he said 43. Yeah. So he is already that year. I think he's 10 years our junior. I mean, can you believe all he's accomplished in 43 years? It's crazy. Yeah. It's amazing. He's made so many movies. he just goes like, yeah, when I did Donnie Darko, and you're like, oh yeah, Donnie Darko which is a fucking great movie that he just, you know to be able to throw out, like, yeah, I remember doing Donnie, like, that's like, oh yeah, I remember when I was doing this amazing, you know Zodiac, and then fucking Nightcrawler is incredible, if you haven't seen it, yeah, what have we done with our lives, we're just sitting here fucking shit, I know I'm back at home, I've gone full circle, I'm about to get My mom's about to give me shit about the holes in my jeans or something.

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