"Jennifer Garner"

24:13And I was there as a non-equity performer because I had been hiding from my equity card because I could work more, you know? Yeah, right. So I was working as a non-equity performer. So I didn't have, they didn't have to put me up. So in exchange for being someone's roommate, I was in charge of the laundry for the entire cast. And there were 35 men. We did eight shows a week. So I washed and ironed all there. But I got really good at ironing. No way. Yeah, I did all of the washing, drying, all of the dry cleaning. I can't touch anyone's dirty clothes. I love dirty clothes. I want to iron your little poncho so bad.

24:52Your hand goes in the wrong spot, you know? Oh, gosh. How dirty can it be? You gotta look for the waistband. Grab that. Oh, my God. Do you love that? Of all household chores, you love ironing? Like, do you love that? I have a friend that loves ironing. Yeah, I get that. I got really into it at the time. I was so, I just ironed all the time. So, yeah. It used to be one of my chores on the weekends. I just learned a new hack is to, if you have like rings on a wood table, something like that, and you put like a, just a damp towel on it and you iron it and it'll bring the ring mark off. Who taught you that?

25:31Oh my God. I learned it on the TikTok. Hey, so listen. YouTube shorts? Yeah, YouTube short shorts. They're called culottes. So, Jen, so you're in Florida, you're doing a ton of laundry and Hollywood calls? I was in Florida, I was doing a ton of laundry and after it was over I was driving north to audition for back to Georgia from yeah I was driving up north to audition for Utah Shakespeare for the next summer and when I was on my way there I met a casting director in Philadelphia at a restaurant and he said you should come and read for this little movie anyway I ended up in New York for a couple of days and while I was there I went on an audition and I actually, I opened the backstage.

26:19I went on a bunch of auditions and because I was so green and so fresh off the bus, like West Virginia girl, I just got everything that day that I went on. They were all these little non-equity jobs. It was just one of those days, you know, where it's just like, it's my first day in New York. Hi, y 'all. I'd hire you right now based on this interview. It's unbelievable, right? So somebody said, you should meet an agent. I met this agent. She said, I want to send you to the roundabout to see if you could get an understudy job. And so anyway, then I did. And then I started working at Isabella's.

26:51Do you remember Isabella's? On the southeast corner of 77th Street and Columbus Avenue. Yes. That's a bar? Yes, I do. A restaurant? Yeah, it was across from the Natural Museum of History. Yes, I know Isabella's, yeah. Did you ever get loaded in there, Will? I sure did. But that was a different lifetime. So how quickly after that were you back on the bus out to Hollywood? a few years because I only wanted to do theater right and you have this like amazing singing voice that not a lot of people know that you have but you do no but so that was the dream to do musicals on Broadway never to go out to Hollywood I mean it was just to be in theater I love dancing I don't really have a voice that could be a professional singing voice unless it's like the range from you know here to here but Broadway quality Yeah, I don't have like a Broadway voice, but I have a karaoke voice.

27:47We've done karaoke, sort of fancy karaoke. But anyway, yeah, then I was super broke and I had just finally auditioned for a TV thing this agent sent me on. And she said, well, they want to test you for this. And I said, I'm understudying right now. And she said, they'll give you$150 a day cash per diem. And I so badly needed that cash. I was so broke that I came to L.A. to test for something, and I got that job, and it was to play Melissa Gilbert's daughter in a Daniel Steele miniseries. So then I did that. Oh, my God. Yeah. I was up for the same part. Wow. Wow. Melissa Gilbert was one of my first crushes.

28:31Yeah, no. You guys are so tied to each other because I was just thinking, Jay, you worked with Melissa Gilbert on Little House. Yes, sir. Yeah. That's right. That's when things all started to happen for me. testosterone in my career. I kept calling her Laura. I remember in hair and makeup, I kept calling her Laura. Did you really? Yeah. She taught me everything. I'd never been in front of, I'd never been in front of a camera. I'd never paid attention to any of it. She taught me what a call sheet was, who to talk to for things. She taught me about the camera turning around. I had no, I was totally clueless.

29:03She was really good to me. That's so sweet. That's so nice. Did you guys, did you stay connected with her at all after? Yeah. Yeah, I have. You know, she's in government and politics in Michigan. Yeah, I had a fundraiser for her. Married to Timothy Busfield. Yeah, very happily. The great Timothy Busfield, yeah. Couple of gingers. Yeah, yeah. Found each other. Well, my son's a ginger, so I always have a soft spot. One of my sons. Sweet, sweet ginger. Sweet able. So you do the movie with, now you've, and then she's taught you everything you need to know about showbiz in half an hour. So then I'm in.

29:38So now you're in. No, then I went back to New York and I was still, you know, and I would, every time I would get some kind of play, I would be so broke. I would get like an episode of Law & Order or of some dumb thing and I would have, I would take that job because I needed that top of the show. Well, you did Law & Order, right? I did. I did. Scale plus 10. Scale plus 10. Scale plus 10, baby. But also you're working in the city and as you, like you, like you're working in the city. You're so excited that you get to shoot in the city. And you end up, like, shooting on, you're like, I was just here yesterday buying milk, and now I'm here shooting, you know what I mean?

30:15It's so crazy, isn't it? When you first are going up somewhere and you see, like, you know, big caravans and a whole set and a base camp, and you're like, wow, there's a movie shooting there. And you're like, wait a minute, that's me. Do you remember that? I mean, I still feel that way a little bit. I still get that way, yeah, totally. Driving up to a location and just seeing all the trucks, Yeah, because I remember moving to Los Angeles for the first time, seeing that, just waiting tables. And you're like, that'd be so cool. What are they filming over there? I'd love to be a part of it. So right off the bus from West Virginia, you're in New York.

30:49You're very green. How did you find the city? Was it scary or did you adapt immediately? I was pretty happy. I mean, I really went right into it. I just would pay my$20 to stand at the back of the Broadway house to watch every show that I could by myself like this. And I would go to museums. And I mean, I just was I was nerding out. So you weren't going to the discos in the bars and the. No, I wasn't doing that. But I my mom always told me that the more people you make eye contact with and smile at during this day on the street, like strangers, the happier you are as a person. So the cuckoo clock.

31:28Sorry. But so as I was walking. Does that go off every time you quote something cuckoo your mom says? Yes. It would be very busy. Quiet. Wait, by the way, Jen. That was cuckoo. There's a lot of wisdom in that because I like that your mom said that. I was just listening to a thing today because it lends itself to the cuckoo clock. We get locations on the cuckoo clock. I wish Melissa Gilbert had told you about sound while we're rolling. I'm going to deal with that. Cuckoo. So there's a lot of wisdom in that. I like this idea that it's kind of, you know, you get what you put out there. And so, and I think that that's true.

32:08If you go out and you make eye contact and you smile at people and you kind of, you project joy, you're going to get joy coming back your way. Right, okay, but when you first moved to New York. Well, that's crazy. Yeah, no, that's insane. That is very hard on the population of New York. It's very tiring. I was like, hi, hi, how you doing? Nice day. I like your shoes. I mean, it was a lot. I was a lot. They were a lot for me. You can't compliment people's shoes in New York. But where was your first apartment? Do you remember? What part of the city? Yeah. I lived on a woman's kitchen floor on 85th and Broadway.

32:41Wow. She had a studio, but the kitchen was kind of its own alcove, and I had a little futon and my suitcase for nine months. Wow, like a puppy. What year was that, do you think? Like a puppy. What year were you? 94. Okay. Why, were you on 85th and... No, I lived at 87th and West End with five other people. That was like 90, 91. And then by 92, I was living on the Upper East Side in a railroad apartment with two other dudes. Wait, are we... I'm on... Jen, I'm on 81st and Broadway right now. Oh, no way. No way. Who cares? Wait. That's a nice apartment. Is that your apartment? Yeah, it's brand new.

33:24And all he does is watch TV in there. Yeah. So you do this. Now you're living there. You're living in New York, and you're doing some... You're doing Law and Order. You're doing Spin City. Can I go back and watch your Spin City episode? Yeah, you do. I'm shocked that you haven't. I know. I know. And then where does Alias fall into all of this? Well, sorry. You meet J.J. Abrams because you do Felicity. Yes. So a few years go by, and I had been working probably seven years, by the time I met JJ and did Felicity and Alias. And how'd you meet JJ? I just auditioned for Felicity for a guest spot. Oh, gotcha.

34:03Wow. And then it was like he remembered you. But I had heard, and JJ's a friend of the show, so he's listening, I had heard that you, that he wrote Alias with you in mind. He did. I know. Isn't that cool? He gave it to me, and I stood in one spot in my kitchen and read the pilot. I didn't even move. I was so, it was, it's still, I think it's the best pilot, I think. That's awesome. He's such an incredible director, too. Yeah, it turns out. It's such a great, it is a great pilot. And it was a great show, and you were great on it. What about just his general energy? I mean, it's pretty infectious.

34:41It's so positive. Yeah. He gives you his full attention. He's super sincere. I just, there's not a lot like him. And is that where you met our lovely Victor Garber that we have in common? Yes. That is where I met our lovely Victor Garber. Although I'd been a big fan of his. I'd seen him in art. I'd seen him in the one with Billy Crudup that started with an A at Lincoln Center. It's, you know, the one I'm talking about. Arcadia? Arcadia. Thank you. Whenever we have dinner, whenever Victor and I got to dinner, he's a very close friend of both yours and mine. He was at your premiere party or your opening night party.

35:16Yes, he was at the opening night. And any time we go out to dinner, I'll always say super, super loud, Oh my God, were you in Titanic? And everybody looks and he's, you motherfucker, fuck you, buddy. Fucking asshole. Everyone's looking for Leonardo DiCaprio. Did you guys see him in Godspell? Yes. With Martin Short and every other Canadian actor. Every Canadian actor. And they're all still super close, that entire cast. They are really, it's like 40 years later. I love that. Wait, am I showing my dumbness by wondering why would they all be Canadians? It all really started this. There was like, so Godspell was this thing on Broadway.

35:58It was a huge sensation. Wait, wait, Jen, Jen, before, I hate to interrupt you, but I have to, Jason, we've had at least five members of that production on the podcast who have talked about the fact that they were all in that production. No recollection at all. I just thought maybe Godspell was written by a Canadian. It's a Canadian story and no? Yeah, Jesus. Jesus, it turns out, was a Canadian. Everyone knew it. So wait, Jesus is in Godspell? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Godspell's not one word? Or is it two words? How do you spell? How do you spell God? So, so... G-A-W-D? Oh, my God. Victor, and you know, I used to see Victor, too, back in the Alias days through Bradley.

36:42All the time, yeah. Yeah, and we would have dinner out on the west side with that little me and the rest of the cast of Alias all the time because Bradley was on Alias. Mm-hmm. I felt like a sort of an eighth member of the cast, if you will. You were. No, you won't. You won't. No, you won't. So, so Alias comes about. And then I remember the time when Alias came out and it was so good and it was so kick-ass. And there was so much written about. First of all, you just, you were the lead of this show and you were a kick-ass lead too. Yeah. Like you, you just kind of, it's like you were shot out of a cannon and you were beating fools up and knocking people out and karate chopping heads and doing shit and like all this spy stuff.

37:26And I remember the stories about you, your training regimen and how insane it was at the time. I still think about it to this day sometimes. I'm going to admit to you something. I think about it sometimes when I think about getting up and working out before work. And I'll think about you, the stories of you are embedded in my mind and I don't know you working out before doing alias. I swear to God. That is really funny. Wait, you would work out before shooting 12 hours a day? Yeah, I would. Because Carl Lumley, who was on the show, I started saying, like, it's so hard for me to keep a workout.

38:04Our hours were so insane. And I said, and I need to be warmed up. And I just can't seem to get it all done. And he is such a stately, gorgeous man and a theater actor and somebody I just respect so much. And at the time, like I had all these, I had Ron, I had Victor and I had Carl all on the show. So I was looking up to them so much for anything. And Carl said, you can always do half an hour. You just set your clock, just get up and do it. You can always do it. And so from that day, I was just like, oh, okay, then I will. And so just no matter what, I would crank my clock earlier, 345, you know, I would do anything to show up to work warmed up because there was so much action and I didn't know when things were going to happen and I just wanted to be ready for whatever.

38:55Now I don't do that. Now like a six and an occasional five, but I don't, you know, not really. But isn't it depressing how much harder it is to stay in shape as we get older? I mean, it's almost like it doubles the amount of time you have to spend at it almost every year. I remember you solidly running six or seven miles every day. It never helped. Never helped. It really did. Still, I'm running like I'm being chased. I also remember you spinning upside down in a car and just losing it on the side of the road. And then you, I remember you. Who were you pregnant with when you threw up? Was it Violet?

39:32No, you already had Violet. I was nursing. That was the issue. It was so hot when we were shooting the kingdom. Like we were in Arizona and it was August and September and 120 on asphalt. and we were wearing big boots and hats and bulletproof vests. And that's the only time, knock on wood, I've ever had to go to the hospital during shooting. I would get so dizzy I couldn't see. I was nursing. I should have, you know. No way. But on your Instagram, I see you working out all the time. It's so inspiring. First of all, you're a mom. You work constantly. You work out. You're doing all these things.

40:10I see you do so many things. I ask this question a lot because I find it fascinating. Is there a thing or a person that inspired you to be ambitious and to have this drive? Where does that come from to just do all of these things? I don't know, but don't you feel like you get older and you look around and there are people you admire and just like that moment with Carl, like something just makes you realize, oh, I can do that. I can reach for that. I can go harder. I can reach for that. I can be more. Yeah, why not you? Jen, you're my Carl. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, good. I'm so glad.

40:43I'll see you at, let's set the alarm. Let's FaceTime. You can join me. But when you were younger, was there like a family member or a person where you just like something clicked in your head and you're like, wait a minute. I like how they live their life. I like how they kind of make the decisions they've made. I mean, I don't know. I have pretty great parents. Like they just. Yeah. I'm pretty great. Yeah. Do you find that your children are as motivated as you were at that age? They are each of them in their own ways. The hard thing is that you think it's going to be your ways. And their ways are things I could never do and they're amazing.

41:23But they keep forgetting to be me. Yeah. It is fun watching. Do you find, well, Sean, do you find your dad? Oh, period. Stop. Sorry, that was just it. Um, just that one question. Sorry. Sorry. No, but it is funny watching your, your, our kids. And this kind of goes out to, to everybody. Like watching our kids have go about it a different way than we went about it. Yeah. And you, and I constantly find myself wanting to say like, Hey man, uh, maybe if you, and then I just go, no, no, no, no, no. It's okay. He's going to do it his own way. I'm just here to kind of act as bumpers on either side to keep them within a certain range.

42:11Well, that's interesting, though, because my... Because of the way we were raised and my dad left early, that old story, because of that, my two brothers who have kids are phenomenal dads. Wow. They're amazing. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't always go that way, though. That's right, but I mean, that was the inspiration to be a great dad. Can I tell you something that happened the other night that I found really nice? I was with Jason and Amanda and Maple who's 11 now, Maple, right? Yeah. And we were just talking about something and Maple was so honest and comfortable in this way and whatever, we all spent a lot of time, so...

42:48When she told you to shut your mouth. When she said shut your stupid mouth. Your stupid Canadian mouth. Yeah, you were saying something dumb. And I've been trying to keep from her that I'm Canadian for a long time. No, but she said, we started talking about something and she was really candid with you guys and with us in this way that felt that I really, I kind of loved, it was such a reflection of you and Amanda, and I love seeing that in kids when they feel this level of comfort to share and be able to speak openly. I think that's so important. That's really rare, I think. And it was really heartwarming.

43:24Yeah? Well, that's nice. Yeah, that's it. Thank you for saying that. I'm always surprised how little children really take from the parents. This whole question of nature versus nurture, and I think I've hammered this one before. But, you know, whenever somebody says something nice about my kids, it's my instinct to deflect anyway. But I do think it is them. It is nature. It's not nurture. I think you can affect your kid probably 5 % left or right, you know. But for the most part, you get what you get. because, like, you know, Jen, I'm sure you've got three to compare against. I've only got two where they're same parents, same roof, same upbringing, and they're wildly different.

44:05So there it is. You know, so it's not a nurture. And from the minute they were born, too. Like, their personalities were already intact. That's why I don't have kids. I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night and have them killing me. Right, yeah, exactly. You could have an axe murderer and you'd have nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, you just get what you get. Sean recognizes that if he had other, that they would want to kill him. And I think that that is a great reminder. That's probably true. And we will be right back.

44:33And now back to the show. Now that we're on this, what do you find challenging as a parent? And I know the list is long because I have three kids as well. But doing what you do, and again, our jobs are no, lots of people have very busy jobs no matter what it is you do. If you work in an office or you work outside or whatever it is you do. But what are the challenges that you find? Our job is just a selfish job, honestly. Yeah. You know, it's really, it's not, even in the best of circumstances, we're really like, well, it's all about me right now. I'm in production and I've got to go to bed or I've got to, I can't be there because my production, this, my, you know, and it's like, that's not the way, and the travel and that's not the way kids' lives work.

45:20If something is happening for them, it's happening for them and you're missing it. And that's basically it. So there's so much. I mean, there's so much challenging, like teenagers and what they all have to absorb and go through. And, you know, like when I go to my kids' schools and I'm there, I have three kids at three schools. And when I go and I see the energy swirling around and the kids chattering and arguing and back and forth and what's important and like struggling for hierarchy, I just think, oh, my gosh, it's so exhausting. I forget what they've been through by the time they come home every day.

45:54Right, yeah. What do you do about the social media stuff? This goes out again to everybody, but, Jen, what do you do about the social media stuff with your kids? Because I find it challenging. Well, so far, and I say because it feels like there's judgment inherent in what I'm saying and there isn't. It's just so far I have not, I don't have kids on social media, like traditional Instagram, TikTok, all that stuff. I don't know totally everything they're on. So, you know, I could be totally wrong. Yeah, there's some workarounds there. There are plenty of workarounds, but they're not checking for likes and they're not posting themselves.

46:34And I think, you know, your rules are very different for your first than they are for your third. So don't hold me to it, but that is kind of my goal. I just say to them, guys, show me the evidence that it's good for a teenage brain. Just show it to me. And then, you know, some people say, well, my kids really, that's how they converse. They converse over Snapchat or whatever. So far, I've been able to avoid it. And, you know, we'll just keep down that, you know, and Ben and I are on the same page about it. We'll just keep down that road as best we can. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying for the same thing or sort of a limited version of it all.

47:11I want to go back to, for a second, because, you know, one of my stock questions, the theater, I need like a terrible theater story that you have, like a favorite horrible something that went wrong, or a horrible, like, set that something happened on a set. Mostly theater stories. He's just looking at check boxes. Or any kind of personal tragedy. Any sort of personal, big regret, something embarrassing. No, I like, I think theater stories that go wrong are hysterical. Unearthed trauma would be funny. They're super relatable. I mean, I run when I, like, I basically, my instinct, I just have a lot of, and so I run onto stage or I run, you know, like I just do.

47:52So I was doing Cyrano at the Richard Rogers with Mr. Klein, Kevin Klein. It was heaven. It was wonderful. But I got into a spell where I fell at some point every night. And there was this, the back, the upstage was this huge staircase that was like two stories straight down, fully exposed. And I would come like, like really fast. It was so fun. So I'd go, and the last 10 steps on the elbow, or I would fall in the fifth act, or I'd fall at the curtain call. I just, once you, once I started, I couldn't get my feet back under me. And people would say to me, hey, I saw you in Cyrano. Oh, man, you were amazing.

48:38You know, I was there the night you fell. It was every night. I'd have to be like, mmm. Did you start padding up? I mean, I should have. You know when, like, when stunt doubles take a stair fall and they're like, well, I put a powder puff under my wig. Uh-huh. Now, did you end up coming up with a funny line at the bottom of your tuck and roll every night? No, because it was so serious. You can't, you know, you just have to. Yeah, it was so serious. Oh, my God. It was serious. You're a no-yes. I want to know about Jen. I love you mentioned Kevin Kline. He's one of those guys that I've always admired and think is so great.

49:13What was that like? I've never come close to the guy. And I just... I don't think any of us have. Have you guys ever seen him out? Never. Not once. And I lived in New York for 20 years. I never saw him. He lives way up on the Upper East Side. He's married to Phoebe Cates. I've never seen them out. Ever. they are, they're like king and queen of their neighborhood. He has a big show on Apple coming out, I think, that they shot in London. Anyway, he is the most literate. He's one of those people that is just always taking in art. He's always reading. There's always a play in his back pocket or something.

49:54There's just, he's always taking in poetry and using it as a reference. and it makes you kind of panic. Yeah. You got to get him on the show. Of course he is. No, wait. He's my idol. So wait, Jen. With everything that you've done, everything that you've accomplished, is there something, is there a role or a thing or something you're like, you know what? I've always wanted Blank. I've never gotten that. I still want to work for it. This was kind of it, guys. You know, I'm a friend of the pod. Yeah, sure. This was kind of it. I'm a listener. Oh, guys, when you had that Simon... LeBond? Yeah. LeBond from Dreaddraft.

50:28I know. Yeah, he's very cool. He's very cool. It's like that Chris Farley Saturday Night Live talk show. That was cool. When you guys had my friend and Brian on, that was cool. No, you know what? When my kids go to college, I keep, you know, I feel like it's healthy to have something you're looking forward to besides it's just panicking. Yeah. So I think I want to go to New York and try to be, you know, there's always like a little old lady in a musical. That's my dream. When the girls go off to college, it's time to go to New York and try theater. Do it. Yeah. Right? I'll see you there. What do you want to do?

51:04Let's do it together. We'll start with love letters. Great. Right? Sean, that's a good one. Why don't you reimagine the odd couple as just a girl and a guy instead of two guys? I'm not Rappaport. I'm not Rappaport. We could call Pete Burke. He could direct us. Direct us in the odd couple. Could you imagine? it becomes War of the Roses. We blow up the whole stage. So, Jen, when did you do the Apple TV, your limited series that you produced, too? A year ago, right now. I was in production. The last thing he told me. The last thing he told me. The last thing he told me, out now on Apple TV+. It's out now?

51:46Yes, it is out right now. We shot it a year ago here in L.A. with a sometime in Austin and sometime in Sausalito. How'd you like Austin? I love Austin. Austin's just, what a beautiful city. It's so cool. And then you have the, everyone's drawn to the lake. It's so nice. Sorry, I just got to say just because I keep Austin weird. Anyway.

52:11Getting paid by the Chamber of Commerce there? People used to have those bumper stickers. I mean, I'm really dating myself as an old Gen X. They still do. It was Portland. Yeah, they still, the bumper stickers are still a thing. Yeah. But good callback. Great job. I'm so old. I'm such an old, all my musicals. I've just realized that I'm old. Jen, do any of the kids want to go into this business? Have you got a sense of it? I think we may have one, but I don't know if that child knows it yet, so I'm not going to. And how do you feel about that? Will you be encouraging if and when the light shines on him or her?

52:48What about you, Jason? What are you going to do? I know. I feel like Franny's starting to get interested in directing, which is really exciting to me. That's really great. So we're like watching movies together and talking about all that stuff. It's kind of like my dad and I were. I know. Just like about a year ago, right? Yeah, yeah. Maple, I think, is interested maybe in acting, but neither one is like, you know, frothing at the mouth, super passionate about it. I'm not a big fan of kids going into this business only because you could spend all of that time studying for a career where if you're the best at it, you're guaranteed employment, you know?

53:26And this is not that. Or any form of the arts, pardon the term, you know, it's all so objective, you know? So I don't know. It's tough. It's a tough business to make a big commitment. You certainly can't say no if they become adults and that's, you know. Correct. Yeah. I'll be encouraging if they're overwhelmed with desire for it. But kids acting, little kids on set, I don't know. Well, that's the other weird part for me too. It's sort of heady where you're trying to train yourself to be other people at a time when you're learning who you are. And it's kind of heady. That's profound. Yeah, it kind of messed me up a little bit.

54:05I never thought of that. It should be done a little bit later, I think. Do you feel like sometimes you're like, am I a werewolf? Am I a werewolf also? Yeah, listen, when I don't shave, when I don't shave every other day, or let my nails grow, yeah. Yeah, just scrape the plant. Yeah, no, it is a little schizophrenic, definitely. Well, thanks for bringing it down. Yeah. Let's just take a break.

54:37She also told, so we're going down the Tig Notaro highlight reel. She just told this great story the other day. she went to a party, a bunch of people she didn't know. And she came out on the second-story balcony, and she just screamed downstairs to a bunch of partygoers that she didn't know, they didn't know her. She just said, hey, guys, sorry, excuse me. Hi, yeah, up here. I just want you guys to know, I'm going to bed in like 10 minutes, okay? And they just went back into the upstairs balcony. And everybody's like looking at each other. She and her friend, well, she and her friend, who was she talking about?

55:08She and her friend were doing what they call party bits. and she agreed to go to this party into this house of somebody she didn't know and she would walk into the kitchen and just kind of like slap the wall and go like, hey guys, there are like six people in the kitchen, hey guys, I'm probably going to turn in in about 10 minutes. And they're all like, uh, okay, by the way, such a fucking, God, Sean, how fun is that? That's such a good bit. I love that. What are the other bits? I want to know where it is. I want to do the thing where I want to drive around all the fancy neighborhoods in Los Angeles like Beverly Hills and Bel Air and then drive up to crews who are gardening and stuff and go, hey guys, you can knock off for the day.

55:46And then just be like... Don't worry about the front, guys. Don't worry about it. I talked to the guy, you guys are good to go. And start wrapping crews who are doing work. As if you live there. Yeah, as if I live there. That's a good party bit. Not bad. Jen, what's the rest of your day today? You're not working on something, are you? No, I'm not working on anything. No, what is my day? You worked out at 3 a.m. I worked out this morning. And actually, I actually have a boxing session after this. You work out all the time. I box at Pete's gym. Do you really? Is he still going in there? This is Pete Berg.

56:25He still goes in there. Who's Pete Berg? Peter Berg is an actor, director, director, actor. Oh, Peter Berg. Yeah. I was like, Pete. And has been ripped to shreds for years. He does always an incredible shit. He can really box. He can, right? I don't get it. Yeah, he can really box. I boxed this morning, and then my 14-year-old has just started boxing at a gym. I'd rather play rock 'em, sock 'em. Oh, remember that. Remember? Remember that? Yeah. Sean, what time are you working out today? And be honest. Oh, God. Look around. Look around. A couple weeks. Look around. So wait, today's Tuesday. You have a show tonight, yeah?

57:02No, our Monday's and Tuesday's. So do you have two on Saturday, two on Sunday? We're doing seven. We're doing seven. yeah gosh that's nice yeah it's really really nice yeah yeah well what's normal eight eight and and where's the eighth show on a on a tuesday night tuesday yeah it would normally be tonight tuesday yeah but we don't yeah like that's really nice it's really nice actually feels like you have a weekend jen what are you and jason what are you and jason when you and jason do your show and on broadway when you guys move to new york yeah uh let jason get into the deal because you guys will be on four shows a week.

57:36Oh, I know. We're going to do only matinees. I don't know if this is true, but I heard Dolly Parton, somebody came up to Dolly Parton and asked her if she wanted to do some big musical. I can't remember the name of it. And she said, sure, I'll do four shows a week. They're like, no. Wouldn't you say yes to Dolly Parton? Yes, Dolly Parton. Who wouldn't buy a ticket even if it's four shows a week? Yeah. I would buy a ticket for the show I don't go to just to have the ticket to go to Dolly. Yeah. Did you ever go to Dollywood? Is that West Virginia? No, it's in Tennessee. It's in Tennessee. It is so, it's so great.

58:09All the rocks have Dolly music, playing Dolly's music everywhere you go. Rocks have speakers? The rocks have speakers. It was the first time I'd ever seen that. And I was like, the rocks are singing Dolly Parton. And I took my grandmother, Exie Mae, and I hoisted her up over a, like a merry-go-round horse. And I just, I can't believe I did it now, thinking back. Like, I'm so glad I didn't break that little lady. but XC May was in heaven. All right, so after boxing today, where there's then, I would imagine you're going to pick up at least one of those kids. Well, yeah, I've got to pick up some kids.

58:43I have this little company called Once Upon a Farm. Yes. Yeah. So tell us what that's on us. Tell me about that. I don't know about that. Oh, it's actually, it's awesome. It is this all super clean, super organic kids and babies food and it is pureed and it's cold pressed so it's not like... Garbage. Yeah, it's not garbage. There's no sugar added. There's nothing added. It's just pure goodness. I would eat all of that, but I would put the sugar in it. Yeah, sure. You would shake it a little. You actually, you don't need it because it's all fresh and it's not cooked down, so it has the great texture.

59:17He loves Sweet and Low, though. He just loves Sweet and Low and everything. You could add a little Sweet and Low if you want. You put it in a blender, Sean. That's your business. Sean put it in a blender and then he'd add some Reese's peanut butter. What is it? This is Sweet and Low, right? Oh, there is Sweet and Low. Oh, that's Scotty. Hello. That's a great nickname for you. All right. So you're going to go and work on. So I have that stuff today. I have calls and stuff like that. All right. But wait. I'm trying to get to the evening time. And I want to know. I like asking this. What do you curl up and watch that you're a little bit embarrassed that you're watching?

59:51Yeah. Oh. Well. Not because it's a bad show. I still watch. I mean, I still watch Seinfeld pretty much all the time. But that's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's just that I've seen them all a thousand. But I'm watching Diplomat. Oh, I love Carrie. Carrie Russell. We love Carrie. Oh, I heard that's really good. Love her. Yeah, yeah. She's so little Felicity. What's that on, the Amazon? Netflix. It's on the Netflix. On the Netflix. Very nice. The kids and I are about to start jury duty. We just need to get someone in the house to pass AP exams, and then we're going to watch jury duty. I hear that's good.

1:00:26That's got... Jury duty's a show? Yeah, it's James. Marsden. James Marsden. James Marsden, that's right. He's the only one who knows what's going on and the rest don't? No, they all know. He's just playing himself as like a, he's playing a bratty actor. He was prepping for it. We shot Party Down together at the beginning of last year and he was getting ready for it. He was like, what am I going into? This is going to be a disaster. And is it ethically okay to be messing with this person? And there's one person who thinks he's just part of a documentary and has no idea that everyone else isn't...

1:01:02Yeah, isn't white. That sounds really cool. They just think they're on jury duty. He thinks that they're making a documentary about this particular trial and he's the only person... Everything else is made up. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool. There's so much to watch. And that's good for kids and adults. I mean, I don't know that it's appropriate for kids, but I feel like my kids have probably been exposed to plenty. Even Sam's watching the R-rated movies now? My 11-year-old is at times. Yeah, I think from time to time. Yeah, it squeaks through there. But you know what? Now, do you curse in front of the kids?

1:01:35I find that I'm starting to get very, very loose with all of that. Very loosey-goosey. I don't. Yeah. On purpose? Or you just don't curse? Do you curse a lot? You don't seem like you do. I learned to curse. I didn't used to, but I can. And I do. I mean, maybe occasionally something slips out, but I really don't want them to curse in front of me because I feel like you need to know that there are grown-ups you talk a certain way around or that you behave a certain way around and it might as well be me. Yeah, yeah. I really love that. You're a good mom. Yeah. I don't know. You're a really good mom.

1:02:10You know what you're doing. And you also have a busy day and we've taken up way too much of your time. Way too much of your time. You have so many things to go do more important than talking to us. But what an absolute delight to meet you. Nice, big shot of sunshine. Yes. Thank you, Jen. At least I didn't show you my bad hair. Let's take a look. I can't believe that it's any... How can it be bad? It's long. Let's take a look. I don't know. We're going to... Do you have a scrunchie on your wrist? Yeah, you've got to be ready. I like to do a scrunchie. I'm always doing scrunchie bits. Oh, yeah. I'm going to watch him do a scrunchie bit.

1:02:50And then he's ready to go. And then I'm ready to go. Thank you for that. And then stretch out the ponytail. Stretch it out. Yeah, you do this. I'm always doing this with it, you know, like you're doing. This. Hey, guys, did anybody see where I part? Where I left my hairspray. I love Sean will pick up somebody's purse at a party and just throw it over your shoulder. You go, guys, anybody need anything from CVS? Yeah, I'm just running to CVS. And which way is out? Is it that way? How do I get out of here? Also, anytime there's a candle anywhere on a table or whatever. Sean always grabs the candle and then he goes like this.

1:03:25He'll shield the wind from the front of it. Shields the wind. And I go, guys, the bathroom, which way is the bathroom? The dumbest bit. Same bit. We've now truly wasted your time. I've learned so much. Thank you, guys. Sorry, Jen. No, we learned a lot. Thank you, Jennifer Garner. We love you. So good to see you all. Thank you, Jennifer Garner. Love you, Jennifer. I adore all of you. Nice to meet you. I adore you. Last thing you told me on Apple Plus with Jennifer Garner, go and watch it immediately. Yes. Do the right thing. Do the right thing.

1:03:55Guys, how do you feel? I feel like I got a personality shower. Yeah, I feel better. You know, if I'm all clean. Speaking to a flower who is just easy, breezy, lovely, gorgeous, fun, funny, talented. Brighten the day. She made me feel better. Yeah. She made the day better. You know, I IMDB'd her page while we were talking. It's unbelievable. Like, she has 8 ,000 credit. Yeah, she's been at it for quite some time. Like, remember 13 going on 30, which we didn't even ask her about? Yes, 13 Going on 30. That was the movie I was thinking about. She did with Ruffalo, right? I think so, yeah. Is that right?

1:04:29Yeah, what about dresses? Wasn't there a bunch of dresses? Did she do that one? 19 dresses? 21 dresses? I don't know. 17, 25 dresses. No, that was... Remember she was in Dallas Buyers Club with McConaughey? She was in Dallas Buyers Club. Oh my God, she was. 13 Going on 30. I'm pretty sure it was, yes, Ruffalo. Listener doesn't want to hear us going down her WB page. Well, I just looked it up. I was like, oh, my God. She's done so much. And she's always so... I always feel like she's one of those people, whatever she's in, whether it's in a movie or on TV or at something or even on a commercial, you're always like, boy, I'm delighted to see Jen Carter.

1:05:10Yeah, absolutely. One of America's sweethearts. Absolutely. Even if she's asking me what's in my wallet, she's brightening up my commercial break. It's true. I know. Did she do one of those? Yeah, she does a bunch of those things. And it's so delightful. And that's almost, I don't mean that. She's got that thing, that it thing that everybody talks about where you look at her, you're like, oh, she's my friend. I don't want it to sound condescending. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you want to like, I want to talk to Jennifer Garner. I feel like my day would feel better. Guess what? We just did. Sure enough, it did.

1:05:40But conversely, you know what would be awesome is to see her in some gnarly dramatic part where she's just fucking ripping somebody apart. Just saying, you son of a bitch. Just unleashing. I bet she's got that. Dude, cool it, man. Why? Well, it's just to see, like to see an actor go from, you know, zero to 100, right? I don't know. Sometimes? Absolutely. I don't know if everybody needs to do everything to do the thing. Be good at the thing you're good at. Well, put it this way. Can you imagine her in a bad mood? No. Right? So wouldn't it be fun in a character, in a part, to see her just like...

1:06:17Yeah, I guess so. It'd be like so like shocking. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like if you were to see me in a part just being super nice and genuine to somebody. I wouldn't believe it. I wouldn't believe it for a second. But if I was doing a good job, it would be nice to see you. They'd give you an Oscar. If you did that, you'd get a lifetime achievement award for that. Well, no, that's right. I wouldn't believe it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I would say like when she, when I see her, here he comes. Oh boy. Here he comes. Fuck, Sean. I can see you coming from a mile away. Because you know why? Because it always starts with, He sends up a flare.

1:06:54Here comes the bye. Because if I, if I, can I, well, I never, whenever I see it. I know.

1:07:10Wait a minute. Why don't we just, why don't we just go back? Start again. Why don't we just go back to saying goodbye Why don't we just say Hey what a great show I'll see you guys later Never happens Bye Why don't we just do that So So when I see Jennifer Coming towards me I always want to say hi I never want to say Bye Bye Bye

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