"Jennifer Lawrence"

10:04Sean Hayes:He wishes. He should have a line at Target. Obviously, I thought you guys meant Theroux. Oh, no. Is that from The Row?

10:12Will Arnett:The Row. Ooh, that would be a good way for him to market. Ooh, The Row. Yeah.

10:16Sean Hayes:Yeah. No, I was at the gym. I mean, pardon my appearance. Jennifer, so nice to meet you. Where do we find you today? Jesus. I am in my bedroom in New York. I'm in my car. My first car.

10:28Will Arnett:If you had to live in a car, what kind of car do you think it would be? Oh, good question. Like a camper van. Yeah. How about, Willie, I haven't talked to you about this. the new VW electric bus that you drive in your new movie. It's rad. Yeah. I know. It's really cool. But that car was, like, I fantasize. I want that car. Is it great? Yeah. I mean, it's, yes. Listen to how careful he has to be with his GMC contract. I know. And I'm thinking about my Hyundai thing right now. I'm thinking, what, we got to cut this. But I think that thing's pretty... I'm a Volvo gal myself. Are you? Wait, do you do the Volvo voice?

11:02XC90. What? No.

11:04Will Arnett:You don't do the voice. Oh, no. I just drive a Volvo. You drive a Volvo. Oh, you do? Gotcha. An Audi. I'm an Audi. Audi. No one's asking. My husband's an Audi guy. Is he? Yeah. Well, this is what it's like to be one of the guys. One of the guys. Um, wait.

11:19Sean Hayes:Yeah, but I would say, to answer your question, it would be a GMC Yukon XL Denali. Oh, Jesus.

11:25Will Arnett:Wait, where are my questions? Here I come. Blue. I have a blue one. Sorry. All right. Is it Jen or is it Jennifer? Jen. Jennifer, if you're, like, trying to get my attention. Jennifer. If I'm scolding you. Jennifer. What about how cool that middle name Schrader is? I like that. Yeah. I didn't care about it growing up. You didn't like it? Yeah. No. That's cool. Is that a family name? Can you imagine if it wasn't a family name? It was my grandma's maiden name.

11:55Sean Hayes:It's nice.

11:56Will Arnett:That's a great first name.

11:58Sean Hayes:Because Jason hasn't bothered to get to this, where are you from? I don't know enough about you. I'm kidding. I don't know enough about you. Yes. First question. I want to know. I want to know. Guess. Guess? Guess. Yeah. Guess. I feel like this is kind of well-known. I wonder if there's a state that will offend me. Can I tell you? There might be. Can I tell you something? It's because the first time I think that I saw you in something was, is it, maybe I'm going to tell you. Winterbone. Winterbone. I think of you as being from, like, Missouri. Appalachia. Or Appalachia or whatever it is. That's in my mind.

12:30Sean Hayes:Mm-hmm. Well, you're close. That's how great you are in that. Oh, thank you. So I'm going to say you are from. Take your time, Will. Can I just say West Virginia?

12:41Will Arnett:You can. Again, adjacent. Kentucky. All right? Louisville. Oh. Oh, okay. All right? How about that? Yeah. And now she, that's my first question. You grew up in Kentucky with two older brothers, Jen. And you have said that you were always the tough kid. How do you think that environment shaped the kind of roles you were grabbing? See, this is not. Oh, my God. I got to read the questions first, and I got to make them my own. Are we still rolling? This is such a loose operation. You're not wearing a shirt. So you got two brothers. You got... All right. So, but now, do you think... Here's the way I would phrase the question.

13:22Will Arnett:All the roles that you play... Fuck, dude. They do... Shut up. They have a sass to them. And do you think that the sass is in the part, or do you bring the sass to it? Ah, thank you. Oh, goodness. I mean, most of the time, yeah, it's in the part. I recently saw Meryl Streep say a quote that was, you know, she seems like she knows what she's doing. She was like, it's about like finding the similarities between the two of us and like bridging a gap. And I was like, okay, so that'll be my thing too now. Right. But I feel like that. Now. I try to do that mostly because I, like you, am completely untrained.

14:05Will Arnett:And it's all just sort of like for me. I don't want to make this about me, but we're going to for a second. I kind of try to find what is the part of me that's closest to the part. And it seems like, because I never catch you acting, that it seems like you're staying inside your goalposts, the limits of what different parts of gender is. You have no limits in my view, sorry. Yeah. You know? Jason, walk that back. Would that be fair that maybe you were doing what Meryl was talking about and she just kind of put words to it? Yeah, I think that's fair. Where's everybody from? Can we do a roll call?

14:40Yeah. Sean? I'm from Chicago, Illinois. I love Chicago. Isn't Chicago great? Yeah, the vibe is cool. This is a slippery slope, Jack. What, he loves to talk about Chicago? Oh, my God. Here we go. It's pretty fantastic. People from Chicago, they really love it. And the suburbs, like right outside of Chicago. That's where I grew up. No way. By the way, this is my high school. I'm wearing the t-shirt. Are you serious? What are these odds?

15:06Sean Hayes:And then she mentioned it and then you're wearing it.

15:09Will Arnett:Yeah. Jen, why do you love Chicago so much? Have you done time there? Done time. It's about 16 months up in Chicago. I had like cousins that lived there, so then I would go and visit as a kid. Have you ever worked there? No, I've never worked there. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Were your cousins in one of those suburbs, like in planes, trains, and automobiles? when he comes home to that house for Thanksgiving, that to me, that's the idyllic suburban. So cozy. You know, that's like the only Thanksgiving movie. I know. I put it on yesterday for my 13-year-old. It's a Christmas movie. And she saw in the little synopsis right before I clicked play, she goes, wait a second, this is Thanksgiving.

15:48I'm like, it doesn't matter.

15:50Will Arnett:It's a great holiday movie. She goes, no, I'm out. Sounds like you're a kid. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah, but then, you know, it was wild. I was a teenager growing up in Chicago when John Hughes wrote and filmed all of them surrounding me, like in all the neighborhoods around. And I was in high school when they would come out, Pretty in Pink, you know, Home Alone or whatever. Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller, like all those. So it was like, wow. And I was so enamored.

16:16Sean Hayes:We were talking about your affinity for Ducky and how much you identified with Ducky. I was called Ducky all the time. No way. Shocker. but anyway but did you so that was the thing that influenced me was being a it hollywood coming to chicago and and i was like wow it was so close to me what was that for you in louisville um well i just want to it's interesting when your age lines up with the movies that are coming out i had that with harry potter i was like 11 when the books came out and like 12 like um what was hollywood like in kentucky no but man like what was the influence for you what was the outside influence to go, wow, I want to do that?

16:53Oh, well, I don't, I mean, really nothing. It never occurred to me that that would be a thing or possible. You know, I like wanted to be a mom. I wanted to be an interior designer, which I'm not good at that. I just, that was a job option. But anyway, and then I went to New York with my mom on like a long weekend from school. And we were watching street dancing in Union Square. and I got like discovered. Oh, really? Really? Were you a break dancer? Is that what you mean, like break dancing? I was break dancing. She was waiting to get on the cardboard. Yeah. I did that too. That's crazy. No, I did not.

17:30No, she's kidding. Oh, I did it. That's cool. That's cool. Wait, street dancing. So what, you were just watching and somebody saw you? Yeah. Or were you street dancing too? We don't get a lot of that in Kentucky. So my mom and I were just like, what's this? And then somebody, what?

17:44Sean Hayes:How were you discovered? Yeah, wait, what happened? This guy like came over and was like, I work for a modeling agency. Can I take your picture? And my mom and I were like, you know, had no survival instincts. We're like, sure. Do you want to go to a hotel?

17:58Will Arnett:Do you want to take pictures of me? That seems like you want to take pictures. First, on, off, what do you think? Top's on?

18:06Sean Hayes:Wait, wait, wait. So this person comes up. I want to know this. So this person comes up and goes, hey, we're from a modeling agency. We want to sign you. We want to do a picture. Whatever that is, that's sort of creepy. And then what's the progression from there? How does that all, how do you start making movies? I signed with an agency that allowed me to like act, which was like commercials and stuff. Out of Louisville or this is still in your opinion? No, so we had to go back to Louisville. But now that I knew that this was an opportunity, I was just like, and I had actually made money. I'd saved money from babysitting, but also I trained horses.

18:45and so I had like, you know, a couple grand and I was like, I'm going. And I was 14. Wow. And originally my brother came with me who was like 18 and we were just like, we are going to die.

19:00Will Arnett:Wait, just the two of you? Wait, just the two of you went to New York? Yeah. Our first meal was at Applebee's in Times Square. No way. Because it was familiar.

19:11Sean Hayes:Because Sbarro was closed. Yeah.

19:15I think mine was at the M &M store or whatever. But wait, what about... The last meal. She said first meal. Okay. You were 14. How old was your brother at the time? 18. Wow. And your mom and dad were just like, great, go have a good time. Yeah. I mean, they were supportive. I know that it's weird as parents to hear it back. But at the time, it was like, I think, I don't know. I think they could tell that this was just kind of happening. and so they tried to like make it as safe as possible.

19:47Sean Hayes:Right. So they sent me with my brother. So you just dropped out of school? Yeah, I dropped out of school. I was only going to do it for the summer and then come back for school. But at the end of summer, I had booked a sitcom that shot in LA. This is the Billingville show? I was supposed to, the Billingville show. And then I was supposed to get like, you know, you're supposed to like graduate, like get homeschooled for your credits or whatever. But we just kind of left it. Left it. Yeah. Wow. I believe it. And who drove you to L.A.? Was it the photographer? In a van? In a van. My dad drove us in the black era from Kentucky to L.A.

20:26Wow.

20:27Will Arnett:Why didn't we fly? We needed a car in L.A. We needed a car in L.A. Okay. And we did a perfect swap. We swapped our apartment in New York for somebody else's house in L.A. And it was just a Craigslist situation. Oh, wow. Wow. They sublet your apartment, you mean? Yeah, and then we take their house. It's just a bunch of gypsies just running around the country chasing an artistic dream. I love it. I know. It's like rehearsal season two when it's like this guy's going to fly you on a camera. And he's like, how many people said no? And he's like, no button. And he's like, actors, dude. Yeah. Such intense dreamers.

21:04I saw that. That was good.

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23:45Will Arnett:And now, back to the show.

23:48Sean Hayes:So you're still 14. So this is months after this Union Square moment. Months later, you book a sitcom, like pretty early on. Do we know the sitcom or was it just a pilot? Bill Engvall. It was called The Bill Engvall Show. It didn't do very well. I mean, it came out on TBS and I got a steady paycheck for a while. And on the, I mean, for like two years, two and a half years. And then I booked Winter's Bone on the hiatus of that show. And then the show got canceled, which was perfect timing.

24:20Will Arnett:but so what were this first and just like the rain cancelling our show it was just like it was just like the rain

24:26Sean Hayes:it's a blessing just like the rain

24:27Will Arnett:just looking down but this first this first exposure to acting and stuff it felt like a like an early fit this was something that you it was comfortable this is something I want to do the rest of my life it was so comfortable that I found ways I thought it had to be harder so I remember like I would like read like an audition like I would read sides and I'd be like well this is how a normal person would say it and then so I would change that and be like, so maybe I will say it like this. Right, right, right, right. Well, that's really interesting, though, because people do, they, I don't know, I feel like some people that give performances will get nominations, and then other people that just kind of like just do naturalistic, just kind of disappear, let the story take over, don't really get as much attention as the flashy sort of performance actor.

25:14Will Arnett:You're so naturalistic, yet you are incredibly well-made. uh, what would you call, uh, awarded, nominated? Recognized. Recognized, recognized. Recognized, thank you. I'm sick, you guys. So, um, I, so that, that is, I love that. Do you think that maybe that's because you didn't go to acting school and learn how to act? You know? You know, my mom took me to some guy that, like, the agency. Don't worry, it doesn't end like that. Okay. But my mom took me to this guy that this agency told me to meet to, like, you know, help me, like, act or whatever. Right. And he told my mom, don't put her in any, you know, acting lessons.

25:57Don't do that. That guy, randomly, is Taylor Sheridan. Ooh. Oh, wow. Isn't that weird? Wait, wait, what? Isn't that crazy? I guess he was, like, an acting teacher or something back in the day. That's crazy.

26:09Will Arnett:Wait. I feel like he was an actor. I think his story is that he was an actor, right? And then started writing and wrote.

26:17Sean Hayes:Sicario that was kind of around for a while and Denis yeah it's great and Denis found him remember he told that story he just he kind of found it and was like wait this is the greatest script I've ever written for Tracy just so she knows Taylor Sheridan created Yellowstone I feel like Tracy

26:30Will Arnett:doesn't need any help on that one yeah well she may she may so he was also so he was also teaching acting that's amazing I love that note don't take her to acting school she'll learn how to act and what a great what a great piece of advice that was because you don't do that. You're very easy to watch, Mrs.

26:49Sean Hayes:Wow, so Taylor Sheridan was the guy. So did you, have you guys ever talked about doing something? Was there any follow-up to that relationship or no? It was just that brief period and then you moved on? No, just that brief period. Wow, and you haven't run into him since? No, we met up about like another project, but we didn't talk about it because I don't know if we even made the connection. Somebody made the connection for me when I was doing a Q &A for a movie. like two or three years ago. Oh, no way. So he might not even remember that connection. Oh, yeah. I mean, why would he? I was just like a little kid.

27:25Sean Hayes:Right. Let's get him on the horn. Yeah. Okay. That's wild.

27:29Will Arnett:All right. So the acting is comfortable. You're getting some good jobs. You get Winter's Bone. And Winter's Bone gets so low.

27:40Sean Hayes:Sean would give anything to have a Winter's Bone. What do you do?

27:43Will Arnett:Yeah. He would give anything.

27:44Sean Hayes:You can give anything.

27:46Will Arnett:Because your bear goes into hibernation during the winter, right, Shani? Yeah, exactly. We got it right there. It's not until spring.

27:55Sean Hayes:That little cub doesn't come back with a bone until spring. They're so proud of themselves. Cheers. You want some winter's bone. It's so fun. It's so fun. Now we're cooking with gas. Good bit, guys.

28:08Will Arnett:So wait. So Jen, so now winter's bone comes out. everybody loves Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. Looks like we've got a career ahead of us. And now it's, we really don't need to do the school thing. That was already kind of decided, but now this solidified it, right? Yeah, well then, by then, I mean, I still feel this way. I still feel overwhelmed. Like when I hear that somebody like graduated or something, I have envy of the like organization of even just like having the credits or like knowing how to, I wouldn't even know where to get started. I think I would have to start from like sixth grade or something.

28:45Whatever. I don't have to do it. I get anxiety randomly that I'll have to do it. Wow, really? Do it. But you don't have any regrets about missing out on it. I did. Now I don't. But I was really lonely. I didn't have any social life as a kid. I didn't have any friends, you know, as a teenager. Yeah. Yeah.

29:04Will Arnett:But did you ever have to go to school on set? Were you emancipated? No, that's why we did it, I think, because you have to pay. If you're not emancipated, then they have to pay for a tutor for you if you're underage. And so our way of making me enticing, I think, was that we said I had a GED. So we didn't need the onset tutor. So I was an inexpensive minor. So my mom had my boyfriend at the time print out like a GED or a diploma or something on like Microsoft Word. And it's not like a studio was going to be like, hey, let's check this out. So it was fake. It was fake. Fake GD. Yeah, it was fake.

29:43Will Arnett:God, I love this family. This family is incredible. Yeah, you should see us at Christmas. We really rip. I mean. All right, but now, because I don't know. My mom, one time I brought like a British boyfriend home and they had, in celebration of me coming home, roasted a pig on a spit. And my boyfriend was very fancy and I don't think like wanted to eat it, but was being polite and was eating it. And my mom was like, when I saw that naked pig on the spit, I couldn't help myself. I leaned right in and gave it a kiss. And wouldn't you know it, two weeks later, I got ringworm. No way. Must meet your mom.

30:19Will Arnett:Making it go. Oh, my gosh. But, you know, I don't have a high school diploma either. And I get very, very jealous of people that are in college that are listening to, like, professors give lectures. But it's so funny because then I hear both you, Jay, and you, Jennifer, talk about that. Sorry, Jen. and and it's like okay, S-H yeah that I know that's my initials are shh that what was I going to say that from your perspective you were like oh my god I'm so jealous of people who went to college but as a kid who wanted to act when I was really young I was like envious of you guys I was like oh that seems but are you envious now?

31:03yeah, not really well I like my experience quite a lot, yeah you did,

31:06Sean Hayes:yeah I mean, you're a hilltopper for life, obviously.

31:11Will Arnett:That's right.

31:12Sean Hayes:That's what the t-shirt says of his school. JB, I didn't realize that we had so much in common like this.

31:19Will Arnett:I mean, but what was your way to self-educate? Mine was watching Charlie Rosen and trying to read newspapers. Yeah, I watched a lot of like the History Channel and Animal Planet. I would go to the library, but I didn't have a library card. We just weren't organized. We didn't pay for things. So I would go, but then I would just read about magic. You'd sneak in? Magic. The library. Read about magic? I'm going to get a degree in magic. I mean, left to my own devices.

31:54Sean Hayes:Jen, have you continued on the legacy of chaos in your own family moving forward? Or do you keep a sort of a healthy dose of chaos? That's such a good question. I married somebody who is the opposite of me. He is so organized. He's an anchor. He's an anchor. Everything's ordered. Everything is ordered, like, on the sink. Like, I have to, you know, like, keep the closet doors closed. And I have, like, my little jobs that I work really hard to do.

32:26Will Arnett:What's the thing you just can't fucking do, goddammit, and he gets after you all the time. Jen, what's the matter with you? Why can't you blank? Oh, I know, I know, I know. The schedule. So our kids, I mean, I get it now. I get it. But like they're on a very strict schedule. You know, it's like breakfast, 7.30. Like, I don't know. He does most of that. Well, he just keeps. He's good at keeping the time. He's good at keeping it. but we've learned to keep our marriage alive, I have a 15-minute wiggle room. Right. Because I just, you know. You can't be held to the precise times, otherwise the marriage is going to suffer.

33:09Will Arnett:Yeah, because I can't. I will, yeah, I'm ADD, and I think I should go to occupational therapy for that. But is anybody here ADD? I think I am, or I'm obsessive-compulsive a little bit. Or at least about being on time. I'm usually on time, but I'm never early. Because I feel like if I get someplace early, I'm wasting that amount of time. Because nothing's going to happen until it's supposed to happen. Oh, I don't know. I have to be on time or I get anxious. But what I do is I picture what is happening. Like what the day is, where it's going to be, where everything's happening. None of that is like confirmed or real.

33:48But my imagination about it is so strong. Like yesterday, we were going to the circus. We were going to go to the circus at 11. Yeah. I didn't buy tickets. And then the next thing I knew, I looked at my phone and I was like building a snowman with my son in the backyard and it was 1230. And the circus was at 11. Like stuff like that. Like it's pretty toxic. Because you didn't see on the schedule or because what? I do follow the schedule. Like I am like capable of doing that. But when I mess up, those are the mess ups. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:19Will Arnett:But doesn't your, how about like the iPhone was such, I used to be just in a sea of post-its before the iPhone. Like, I couldn't remember anything. I was always, like, missing appointments. But now the iPhone with the little alarm situation, the little calendar. It doesn't work for me. Watch this. I tried it last night. Uh-oh. Siri, tell me I'm beautiful in one hour. I don't see I'm beautiful in your contacts. It just never does it. Oh, see? Yeah, I get it. And then it'll just, like, call my trainer.

34:53Sean Hayes:because it wants to help you get beautiful listen yeah it's very instinctual what about a nice

34:58Will Arnett:assistant let's gonna let's get you a nice assistant or two oh i have i have the best i love my assistant but it's it's really hard what what i put them through i don't it's not that bad i mean my god i'm a mother my kids get to school on time yeah yeah now okay so everything's cruising along and it's feeling kind of normal. Winter's Bone happens. And that just like... Winter's Bone happens. No, it wasn't exactly like that. I got nominated, but you know, it was like, it was an indie and I still kind of felt like I was going to just be an indie actress because I had starred in a couple other things that were small and I had gotten little awards for them.

35:40Like two other jobs.

35:41Sean Hayes:But you still have kind of an indie vibe in the best way. I mean that as a compliment. Yeah, yeah, you do. I take it as a compliment. Thank you. You do. And so I was like, yeah, this is going to be, this is, I'm right on track. I'm going to be like the indie lady. And then I auditioned for the Hunger Games. And then when I booked the Hunger Games, it was the same kind of season as like award season for, no, wait, that was Silver Linings. So I got famous just from booking Hunger Games. And then.

36:13Will Arnett:Oh, because the people who were fans of the book were like, oh, she's going to be... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I used to do the Santa Monica Stairs. And I remember being like, I don't think I can do the Santa Monica Stairs anymore. Uh-huh. I'm too famous. So then were you reluctant to take that part because you thought it was going to be too... Yeah. I thought it was going to... Yeah, Twilight had come out and it was like, holy fucking shit. There were like helicopter pictures of them just trying to live in a guest house. and it just didn't seem like a nice life. And I had a good situation. I had enough money for what I, and I could do what I wanted.

36:47There was just, I didn't know if it was going to be worth it. Exciting, but maybe not ultimately worth it. And I was always focused on my future being a mom. And so I was like, I picture myself being a soccer mom with a minivan. And what if I can't do that? Because there's like, you know, I'm like Kim Kardashian or something. But I thought about it and then I said yes and I don't regret it.

37:16Will Arnett:But wait, before you said yes, take us through the sort of the deliberation process. Did you reach out? Was it like agents, parents, friends, or all of the above that helped you come to that decision? Or was it just you running up the Santa Monica stairs and figuring it out? It was just me, you know, running up the Santa Monica stairs. Because there's not really anybody that can help you. Like, you know, mostly everybody's like, are you insane? You have to say yes to that. You're going to regret that for the rest of your life. And then taking time to like think about, I knew that I'd be connected to that character forever.

37:52Which isn't good or bad. It was just something to think about. And I ultimately, I'm so happy about that. I love that. I love that. I know. Isn't the new one about to come out? I'm still connected to that. Like all these years later? Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah, isn't it funny too, as an actor, you work towards becoming successful and then you have exactly what you're talking about, the struggle of, well, I know this is going to be successful. Do I associate myself with that? But that's the thing where we want. Anybody wants to be successful in any job they do. I know. But our job is very closely connected with our lives.

38:30Right. I mean, I guess everybody's is.

38:32Will Arnett:So you say yes to the thingy at the Hunger Games, and then you get the nomination. And then my saying yes happened, that was announced in the same season as award season for Silver Linings Playbook, which I was winning all of those awards leading up to that you win before you win the Big Daddy. And so I became the most famous person in the world. And I was like, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was fast. And tell me, honest ratio between excitement and panic. Oh, God, I don't know. Because they blend. Right. It must have been exciting for a second. It was very exciting. It was so exciting. But I was also, like, working, really, like, the whole time.

39:21I didn't have, like, during that era, I didn't have, like, more than two weeks off in, like, five years. So when I was going to the awards things, when I won, I was shooting Catching Fire. And I was like, I mean, even, yeah, I was like flying in and out to go to a party and then landing at four in the morning and then going to set for the Hunger Games at seven in the morning. So just, I don't think I ever got, like by the time I finished the Hunger Games, I came back to like the condo that I lived in when I was like a teenager because I just didn't live anywhere. Right, and it was probably a great distraction to, like the craziness was a distraction to not absorb everything.

40:01Yeah, and I like lived with my best friend, so that was nice. That definitely stopped me from getting full of myself.

40:08Sean Hayes:But when the music kind of stopped, when you came back to the condo after all that time, did you feel like, oh my, did it feel like such a big part of your life had just kind of gone by?

40:17Will Arnett:You can't go to Starbucks anymore, and like all that stuff started to really kind of... Did it feel like a time warp? Yeah, but you know what? But it was like, I am a homebody, and I realized that I could use this to my advantage. And that was cool. I can just be like, oh, I can't come to your party. I'm too famous. I can't leave the house. Like being pregnant, right? You can just say, oh, yeah, no, I got to go. I got to leave early. Like being pregnant? Well, yeah, my wife. Do you do that like when your wife is pregnant? Yeah. It was like, it's a great way to get out of a party early. Oh, yeah.

40:50Will Arnett:Or you have the baby at home, you know. Oh, yeah. Now with kids, you don't have to do anything. Sean still does it with his dog, Ricky.

40:57Sean Hayes:Yeah. Sean does it all the time. He's like, we got to get back to Ricky. And we're like, it's 7 p.m. You've been gone two hours. Did you leave a bunch of food out? No. Well, I mean. Do you not have kids? I don't have. We don't have kids, no. But we have a dog. We're not human kids. You have such calm dad energy. I know. You know what? You would be a great dad. It's because I didn't have one. So that's another podcast. But yeah. Because I didn't have one. So I think. I have a fantasy of being a dad because of the way I wasn't fathered. But then we've had this conversation so many times about, you know.

41:30I've written like three jokes since you've been talking.

41:34Will Arnett:About just driving fast, about stick shift. Go ahead, keep going. But I always say that neither me or Scotty, my husband, is 100 % wanting kids. And I was like, if he was 100%, it was like, oh my God, I want him so bad. Then I'd be like, great, let's do it. But we're both like 85, you know, like so it's not fair to the kid. I do feel though that like during the nine months it takes to make a baby, it helps, that's a useful time for parents to kind of get their head around becoming parents. So take that for what it's worth. Whenever anybody tells me like I'm not sure, I'm like don't do it. Yeah.

42:18Because I feel it's so weird that people are like, oh, you don't have kids? you don't have kids and then when you have a kid you're like what the fuck everybody should have been like when I said it should have been one out of a thousand people that goes okay I think I'm gonna do it and everybody's like are you sure right right like that's the way it should be and it doesn't help like I said this too it doesn't help like while somebody's rocking their screaming baby you know behind their back they go don't have kids yeah you know and like okay well I've seen that enough it's just bits we're doing bits it's just bits we'll be right back Hey guys, you know how winter makes your car so filthy with like salt and the snow and the sleet and all the ice scrapers and shovels you keep in the trunk and you can bring in mud and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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44:51So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a free night stay anywhere? Anywhere. What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris? Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby. Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum? Hilton Honors, baby. What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives?

45:10Will Arnett:Are you going to do this for all 9 ,000 properties? When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. And now back to the show. But speaking of babies, now, Jen, now are you the soccer mom that you were dreaming about? Like, are you tempted to like... I'm an ice hockey mom. No way. Yeah. I never saw that coming in Kentucky. I'm an ice hockey mom. Yeah. Wait, the four-year-old is playing ice hockey? Yeah. Or is it dad? Yeah. No. The four-year-old. Yeah? Yeah. That's a cool one. I mean, my husband played hockey growing up, and he's, it's so hot when they play hockey together, like in the house.

45:57Like, it really turns me on.

45:58Sean Hayes:Is he Canadian? No, well, almost. Vermont. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. We love hockey. Hockey's my sport, too.

46:05Will Arnett:But what about that? Has that hockey gear started smelling yet on the four-year-old? Because the hockey gear is bad. No. He told me I had to brush my teeth yesterday. Oh, your husband or your kid? My four-year-old. He was like, you should brush your teeth, mommy.

46:17Sean Hayes:Yeah.

46:18Will Arnett:They'll tell you straight.

46:19Sean Hayes:I used to have to bring my hockey equipment in the side and had to take it to the basement because it smelled so bad. The hockey bag is the worst. My mom would be like, I don't have that yet. I had to keep it in the boiler room at the house because it smelled so bad.

46:33Will Arnett:Wait, so, but Jen, don't you just want to... What do you do about that? Baking soda? Nothing.

46:37Sean Hayes:Nothing. It just is what it is, eh? You go buy new stuff. Yeah. Eh? Are you Canadian? I'm Canadian, yeah. Oh. Boy.

46:46Will Arnett:Yeah, that'll stop.

46:47Sean Hayes:We'll tighten it up. That really landed.

46:52Will Arnett:I'm tempted to just, like, not ever work again and just be, like, home with kids. Tempted? Yeah. That's me. I identify as a stay-at-home mom. Yeah. But I am, obviously.

47:07Sean Hayes:When he says home of kids, he means I'm the golf course. But listen.

47:10Will Arnett:No, I've actually, I've lost my passion for that lately. I don't know what's going on. I know, same here. You're just sick. You'll get it back. I know. Yeah. No, but I do, I do love, I love not doing anything. Yeah. Like right now, listener, we're in the holidays right now. This will air later. But the two weeks around Christmas and New Year's, I just love that there's nothing to do except just stay in your PJs, make a fire and watch movies. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, nothing's required. I'm not used to being busy like this. I normally like, I have a busy like three months while I'm filming, you know.

47:45But even in that sense, it's calm because there is nothing else to do. I just go to work. I do that. I come home, I sleep, and then I do it again.

47:54Will Arnett:Right. And then like two weeks while you promote it is hectic. But like something like this where I'm like doing the, I don't know. Right. So right now you're doing some campaigning and it's busy. You've got to do a bunch of stuff like this. How do you like doing – do you like doing stuff like this? I like doing stuff like this. This is like a fun conversation with interesting people. Right, as opposed to doing anecdotes. When do they get here? But like Q &As, you know, like a Q &A that like starts at 9, like 9 p.m.? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, after the spring. How do you stay awake? What time do you go to bed?

48:26Will Arnett:I have half an eye open at 8.30. Oh, I am in bed. Kindle is lit until like 9.15. And then I don't even have like Kindle light on normally by 9.15. So Kindle will put you to sleep? Yeah. The reading puts you to sleep? Yeah. Yeah, Will's a big reader. You know, that's true. The older you get, I went to a couple of parties that started at like 8 o 'clock at night. I'm like, who starts a party at 8? Well, that one this weekend that I couldn't get to started at 8. What time did you get there? I got there right at 8. Right at 8. So you could leave at 8.30? I was planning on going to a Christmas party tomorrow, but it starts at nine.

49:04Will Arnett:Yeah, what? That's rude. You know, all that means is that we're going to be drinking a lot. When you set your time start at nine, that means it's going to be a lot of booze. And you can't be hungover with a nine-month-old. No. A three-year-old is just not an option. Wait, Jen, when you were imitating your mom, that was so funny, and she has that southern, you know, drawl or twang or whatever, did you have that and got rid of it, or did you never have it? No, I had it and got rid of it. I listened to like CDs. Remember CDs? Come on, really? Did you really? Yeah. I did, but I mean, my agency gave me CDs and I listened to them and I did them and like repeated all of the things.

49:41But I think that probably just time. Time, yeah, time in Los Angeles. Especially that young 14, 15, you just start sounding like you're surrounding.

49:50Sean Hayes:Yeah, I got rid of my Canadian accent the same way. When? Get out, Sean. How dare you? You just said A and I think a boat. A boat. What part of Canada? I've worked there, so I know all the provinces. Toronto. Oh, okay. Yeah. Cool. Big city guy. Yeah, I'm a big city dude. That's kind of my cross to me. I'm more familiar with the Quebec region. Okay. Oh. Is that Montreal? That's the Montreal is in Quebec, yeah. Montreal is in Quebec, yeah.

50:19Will Arnett:Beautiful part of the world. Here's a question I know Sean's going to love. You joked that you once fangirled too hard on meeting Jack Nicholson. What is your most recent embarrassing celebrity encounter? I think I, like, frightened Draco Malfoy. What's his name? Tom Feldman. Yeah, really? We were doing Fallon, and you know how dark it is in those, like when you're behind the curtain or whatever. It's so dark on the late shows. And I had finished and was walking out. He was going to go on after me, and I just was like, and I was like scared him really? yeah because you're so fan you fanned out I know it's wild when you run into people that you you kind of that stuck with you because of a film when you were growing up or whatever and you finally see them yeah I know and then it's just like you say like that you love them so much and then they're nice and then it just stops yeah the conversation just stops I know I just ran into Molly Ringwald like a year ago I was like oh my god I mean Nathan Felder I saw He was at a party and I tried to keep.

51:21I think I kept my cool. But yeah. I had the same thing with him.

51:26Will Arnett:I said that he was like the best and I'm such a big fan. And he was like, oh my gosh, thank you. End of conversation. Yeah. And Nathan Fielder and Larry David, they're intense because it's like, it's their brain that you are so, like, you like their personality and like their brain, you know, not just like what they do. Like, if they don't like me, then why would I like me? I know. You want to get in there. We're billing by the hour. Oh, my God. This is so revelatory. I want their approval. All right. Here's another spicy hot question. Hot ones. You confessed to eating weird snacks on set. What is your all-time strangest on-set food combo that you now secretly stand by?

52:09I have no idea what that means. A weird on set. I just eat what's at Crafty.

52:14Will Arnett:Right? Exactly. My brothers used to think that my breakfasts were gross. I would have Campbell's chicken noodle soup and tuna salad. I get it. Okay.

52:23Sean Hayes:Wow. Sean, hump the brakes.

52:26Will Arnett:How did you do a hot one? That sounds delicious. Sean just stood up.

52:29Sean Hayes:I did a hot one just recently myself. How'd you do, Willie?

52:32Will Arnett:Did you get all the way through it?

52:34Sean Hayes:If I'm being honest, I was reluctant to do it because I don't like eating. I don't like hot sauce. Yeah, me neither. And so I'm like, okay, here we go. And then they go, Bateman was just on and he made it all the way through.

52:44Will Arnett:Yeah. But I was loaded up with like Pepto and Tums. Oh, I had ice cream. Oh, I threw up.

52:50Sean Hayes:You did? You did? Yeah. Wait, is it true that milk really helps that? Yes, milk helps. Really? It did help. But the third to last one, I forget, it was called like the bomb or something like that. It was so ridiculous. And I was rubbing the ice cream on my lips because I thought that my lips were going to come off. That sounds gross. Sounds like a dream. No, it's like truly frightening when it hits. It's overwhelming. It was rough. Like, how am I going to handle this situation?

53:15Will Arnett:When did you throw up? On the set there or when you got home? No. So the only thing that soothed the burning was chugging ice water. So I think what happened was I drank so much ice water that I threw up. Wow. This is the kind of torture we put ourselves through to sell our product. But actually, it was pretty fun. It was fun. He's a great, he's a super nice guy. Yeah, I like him. Sean, yeah. He's a very good interviewer. Right?

53:38Sean Hayes:Very good questions. By the way, the questions are really good and they're really from out of left field. that made me laugh a couple times how out of left field. And you're struggling with your mouth is on fire.

53:48Will Arnett:And I love how like dry and robotic he is too. It's like it's fucking serious business. Is he eating with you? Yes.

53:54Sean Hayes:He's a robot. Really? He just doesn't react as much because he's used to it? He's just used to it. Yeah, he's used to it. He's made of titanium. It's insane. He actually kind of mirrors you. What I found, like he eats the same way that you do. He takes the same size bites that you do. And there's some, I guess there's comfort in that. It's almost like he's in it with you. Yeah. Did you take just - That poor guy, he said whenever he goes to restaurants, people send him chicken wings. Oh, boy. And it's like, and he obviously can't do chicken wings. Shut dream. Yeah. Send him over here. Yeah.

54:25Will Arnett:All right. What about this? If fame disappeared tomorrow, Jen, what is the first thing that you would go out and do that you can't do now because of getting recognized? Oh, I don't, that doesn't really apply. I just do, I do stuff. I do it. Will you do like Disneyland? Yeah, but I'll do Disneyland. I'll do it. You just rush it. And then, so then what happens? I just rush it. What happens if like a big crowd starts to gather around you and everybody wants a picture on their iPhones? Do you indulge? No, it never happens. And like, I would just leave. I think that bringing like a big security guard and like wearing a hat and all that stuff, that attracts attention.

55:02But if, for the most part, I just get people like looking at me sideways being like, she looks like that person.

55:08Sean Hayes:person. You don't want to invite it. I would just do that. I remember hearing, a guy told me once, this is not related, I can't believe I'm making this connection, but riding your bike in the city that don't wear a helmet because, again, this is a terrible analogy, but I can't bail, I'm too deep.

55:31Sean Hayes:When you wear a helmet, you say to the other drivers that you're part of the system, that you're just another vehicle. I totally can't. But if you don't have a helmet that you recognize as a human, so when I ride my bike in the city, I never wear a helmet. Sounds like Thoreau again. You know who said it? Lorne Michaels, who's never ridden a bike in the city in his life. But he once said that to me. Did he deliver it like it was a good joke, or did he deliver it serious as a heart attack? No, he meant to. No, he said, wouldn't you put a helmet on? You're telling the other vehicles that you're in the game.

56:04Sean Hayes:Because I was considering starting to wear a helmet. He said, don't do it. He advised me, Lauren.

56:09Will Arnett:So, like, if you don't have a helmet on, then they'll be more careful around you, right? That's right.

56:13Sean Hayes:That's right, because they see that you're a human being. I don't know why, but I find it weird when Canadians are funny. Because there's so many of them that are funny. Well, there's Jim Carrey.

56:26Will Arnett:There's Jim. There's Martin Short. Mike Meyer. Martin Short is a little funny. Martin Short is, of course. Of course. Once you find out somebody's Canadian, you're like, of course. And I don't know what it is. John Candy?

56:35Sean Hayes:Marty Short might be one of those. John Candy is Canadian? Of course. John Candy definitely seems like he's from Chicago. Well, we know why. We were just talking about planes, trains, and automobiles. Canada has a deep bench, if I can tell you. Deep bench? Of funny people, yeah. Oh, of funny people. That's a hockey analogy, like a bench. I guess I just like, to me, there's no trauma in Canada. It's like you have free health care. Your taxes pay for public school. Everybody's so nice. Oh, we got so much trauma. I feel like humor is formed from suffering. Maybe you're cold. We just suck it up.

57:10Will Arnett:Before we let her go, we've got, goddammit, we're in the last minute. We haven't even talked about the thing. Let's talk. I want to talk. Lynn Ramsey is one of my favorite directors ever. Can you please, okay, so Die My Love, right? Yes? Yeah. Yes. That's the film. It's incredible. Saw it. Love it. Can you tell us anything about what I'm assuming was a magical experience with Lynn Ramsey? Yeah, I mean, it really was. It started like before we got on set, she just kind of started talking about this world and then writing these scenes, and it wasn't necessarily in chronological order, which was funky and cool.

57:48And then we got to Canada. It was Calgary, which was in...

57:54Sean Hayes:Where that was, it was beautiful. What's the Ottawa province? No, Alberta. Alberta! Calgary, yeah. I'm here for all your Canadian questions. Well, yeah, thank you. You're welcome. So, yeah, and then it was just really cool and great. She's just extremely instinctual. It's like kind of exactly what you want to have when you're like working with an auteur like that. You were incredible in that.

58:17Will Arnett:Thank you. I can't wait to see it. The movie's so great. I can't wait to see it. It's just beautiful too. I can't wait to see it before, Sean. I already saw it. Really? Do you have a top movie of all time for you or top two? Oh, Sean. Well, now, I mean, One Battle After Another was my favorite movie I've ever seen. Yeah. What about, wait, you're a reality TV fan. Do you watch any of those with your husband? He doesn't get near him? He got near Vanderpump for a while, but now I lost him. But, yeah, I watch Southern Charm, Real Housewives of Salt Lake, and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills now. What about Below Deck?

58:52Will Arnett:Do we go Below Deck at all? You know, I can't watch Below Deck because I cannot understand the different franchises of them. It's too confusing. I don't ever know which one is current. Is it Below Deck, Below Deck Med, Below Deck Australia? I don't know which one's happening now. You've got to be clear on those.

59:08Sean Hayes:There can't be confusion when you're in the Below Deck universe. Exactly. Do you ever watch Traitors? Like, what happens if I confuse what region I'm in? I'm clearly passionate about provinces. Wait, Sean, what was that? You're describing chaos. You ever watch Traitors? Traitors. Oh, Traders.

59:25Will Arnett:Oh, wait, that's the one that was just in England, right?

59:27Sean Hayes:Yeah, it's so good. Where they play Mafia, basically, JB, they play Mafia. And they're doing that in the States now, too. Remember last year at New Year's, how much we played Mafia every night? You were great at it. I had to run it every night because everybody else, and I couldn't even play. I had to run it every night.

59:44Will Arnett:It wouldn't have lasted without you. You were our beacon. Do you guys ever do bowls? Bowls? What is it? Salad bowls. What's that? Everybody writes down something that's familiar to everybody. Like everybody would get it. You know, like Spider-Man, Donald Trump, like cheese. Yeah. And then you put them, and then there's like stage one, which is you can say a full sentence just without that word. Yeah. And then the second, you can just say one word. And then the third is charades. Some people call it celebrity or what do they call it? It has a different name for everybody. Yeah. That sounds very good.

1:00:18So the first round you do, yeah, you get one sentence to describe it. Then you put them all back in the bowl in the second round. And it's always the same. One word. So then you started getting these inside jokes with, you know, it's just like the same.

1:00:31Will Arnett:It's very funny. Shawnee, you used to have great game nights. What happened? What's going on? Too much. I love game nights. I see a lot of people do that. Too much to host. Yeah, it's too much to organize. Let's get on down to Jamie and Nico's house and just fire up a big fat game night. Oh, yeah. I'll fly in. You know, game nights always happen where people are like into it and then you start it and then people kind of fall out because they get bored and then it's kind of... Yeah, that's the bummer. I'm going to start doing Mahjong with my girls on Thursday. I love Mahjong. Really? I don't know how to play yet, but we're going to learn.

1:00:58It's just a matching game.

1:00:58Will Arnett:Is that the one with the tiles? Yeah, you just match the tiles. That's it. Oh. Huh. Match the tiles? That's it. Those are the rules. Really? Really? Yeah. That's all. It's all too much of a commitment. Yeah. It's not too much. All right. Jennifer. Jen. JB. Jen. Thank you. Sean. Will. Next time you're out here. Will's shirt. Doing your things. Thank you. let us know and we'll play some mahjong and some bowls we'll do a game night at Sean's we'll do some bowls Sean's gonna do some Pictionary Sean I'll help you organize and I'll come early and we can set up appetizers and stuff yeah right they're already out the appetizers are already out Pop Tarts just in a row Jen thank you very very much for doing that so nice to finally meet you Jennifer Lawrence.

1:01:50This is lovely. Thank you for having me.

1:01:53Will Arnett:All right. Have a great rest of the day. Yeah. And have a great holiday. All right. Thank you. Bye, guys. Bye, bye, bye. Bye.

1:02:02Sean Hayes:Bye, JL. Bye.

1:02:06Will Arnett:That's Jennifer Lawrence.

1:02:07Sean Hayes:That's Jennifer. We're supposed to be on the big stage at the Hollywood Bowl. I know. She got rained out. We got to reschedule that. And yet we still, and then we had her, and then we just had her on here, which was great. I know. And when I found out that that was, so it was like after it got canceled, I was like, oh, it was Jennifer Lawrence. I was so excited. And then, and here she is. Now, did you guys,

1:02:27Will Arnett:you guys did not know it was her? Not until after. No idea. No, I had no idea. I knew it was going to be Jeremy Allen White a week beforehand. You did. Oh, right. Yeah, because his agent mentioned it at something I was at. Oh, right, right. But listen, not his fault. It happens all the time.

1:02:44Sean Hayes:Yeah, of course.

1:02:46Will Arnett:But yeah, that would have been, that would have been I can't believe

1:02:49Sean Hayes:it took us so long to have her on I know she's one of those like oh I know she's sort of like she was on my list too yeah she's fantastic she is a lot of success quickly but she handles it well very well she's done so many great things she's been so good in so many things she's been in a movie

1:03:07Will Arnett:every year for the last 20 years I was looking on her thing every single year is that right eh yeah is that right eh yeah and then so So Die My Love is out now. And then the Hunger Games, next Hunger Games thing, I think is coming out middle of next year. How about that? That's. You know what? Go ahead, Sean. You know what?

1:03:31Sean Hayes:Die My Love is coming out. Thank God. I mean, it's a good title. Thank God it wasn't titled. Bye. Bye, my love. That's exactly what I was going to do. Smart. Nice.

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