"Jesse Eisenberg"

23:17And so if this product is the extension of this person's social behavior, then this is not great. Well, yeah, that's a really good way to put it. In effect, that this person's behavior, this person's outlook on human relationships is now being projected. Exactly. As a mode of living and as a mode of people interacting. But think about it this way too. Like, we used to interact, like, in kind of ways that are kind of mushy. You know, you would make a weird joke and the person wouldn't react the way, so you wouldn't make that joke again. Or you would find that somebody has the same sense of humor.

23:58And, like, what relationships get reduced to, like, on, like, Line, and forgive me because I'm not on these things, but this is my kind of cynical, like, attitude towards it, is, like, we like the same band, and so it hooks us up and everything. And that's essentially, like, the character I was playing could interact with people like that on this very much, like, We both like this band. Let's stand here and talk about it. And like, that's the way the thing works too. It recommends this person to you. Or, you know, if you're dating, it recommends this person to you. And it just takes out like the squishy humanness that we have in our lives outside of the internet.

24:32Yeah, for sure. However, I mean, because you speak, you've spoken before, you've spoken already in this episode about your, you know, not to belittle it, to be honest, it's charming. that you're self-effacing, sort of, you know, that you're comfortable with yourself. And I thought, I get it. We all are. But I feel like these social media things are meant to be a tool to actually help folks that don't - That's true. And probably it does. Yeah, that wouldn't get out to a bar and start. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm wondering if, you know - I'm sure you're right. I truly know nothing about this because I'm not on it.

25:10I haven't had the experience of being on it. No, no. I think that that, Jason, and I think that there is, that's what it's sold as. Right, right. And I think that in its best version, were people actually looking to do that and it wasn't used as a way to enrich people, then that's what it would do. Unfortunately, what it's become is it's designed to keep you engaged to sell ads. Now what it's done is it's designed to keep you opening the app so that your eyeballs will be exposed to advertisers. We all need advertisers. I'm not... But it keeps us all employed. Of course. That is its design. And it's not to keep people engaged.

25:59And I think that there was a time that maybe that was the idea and maybe that's what the social... When it was called The Facebook was about. But unfortunately, what it has become is become this thing that's become incredibly divisive. And it has... And all it's done is reinforced, instead of celebrating the similarities, it's reinforced the differences between people. It's had the opposite effect. It's stunning. All these kinds of things. We're talking, you know, we talk about inclusion stuff. All these things that all they've done is help create these mini barriers between us all and said, I'm this and I'm this and I'm this and you're that and and we've created more division I think I don't know yeah that's my perspective but my perspective is really as an outsider because I haven't been on it but yeah like that it creates you know isolation sectarianism all this stuff wait just are you on social media no no no I'm kidding oh yeah yeah yeah I'm actually I'm actually live tweeting this whole thing like going great Sean said social network is so good thumbs up yeah now studying anthropology and social psychology in college yes now what how did you why did you study that when you knew you wanted to do what you're doing now or did you do it at the same time yeah no i was like i i went to college for 18 years before i got my degree because i would like go to a semester and then take off and work you know and then go back and And so I got my degree during the pandemic finally.

27:36Oh, you're serious. It took you 18 years? Yeah, exactly. It took me 18 years. Yeah, exactly. No way. Way. Yeah, like the second 18 years of my life. Yeah, from 18 to 36. And I chose anthropology because that was my wife's degree. She graduated like many, many years before. So that was her degree. And I just wanted to, you know, have something to talk about with her. That's cool. Yeah, because I knew I wanted to be in the arts. Yeah, otherwise she would not talk to me. Would you define anthropology for me? Yeah, anthropology is like the study of, and I'm using quotes, the other. You know, it's the study of other cultures, the study of other people.

28:09You know, what you learn from it is that, like, your culture is not superior to another culture, even if that culture is, like, let's say, more poor or something. You know, you learn to kind of view cultures as their own value to the effect that they have on each other. You know, so an anthropologist would go to study, famously go to a Samoan village. Margaret Mead is a famous anthropologist. Go to a Samoan village and live with them and study their ways and everything. I literally asked somebody last night who has a master in anthropology. I asked her to define the same question last night. She said something very similar.

28:47And I said, well, what is the difference between that and sociology? And she said that sociology is much more data-driven. Is that fair? Yeah, yeah. My dad's PhD is social psychology. And so he was studying basically like, human behavior irrespective of culture. It was about people interacting with each other. Anthropology really focuses on cultures. Wow. And you got your bachelor's or master's? I got my bachelor's degree. That's amazing. Your dad's got a PhD. This is an accomplished family. Jay, what did you learn on the set of Ned and Stacey? I remember you doing an episode like that. I learned how to scoop a bagel.

29:25You know, that's where I started really cutting the cards. So Jesse, first of all, by the time you're 65, you get your master's. But second, you, that's really funny. What, in your studies, what is the one kind of culture that you found the most fascinating or actually interacted with or whatever? Best and least, and least, to be fair. Best and least culture? The least fascinating culture. Yeah. Okay, the most boring culture, you guys, is I'm doing top 10 worst cultures. Um, yeah. I would love if you got on Instagram just so you could start posting things like the worst cultures. Yeah. And this one is boring, but also stupid.

30:05So, okay, this one, um, no, I mean, well, I kind of like, I did my, like, ethnography, which is like, you know, your big thesis. I did it on this, like, um, this restaurant in Chelsea that was, like, the last remaining authentic Latin American restaurant because everything else had been, you know, gentrified away. And this place was, but it was so, it was kind of a cheat because it was, like, down the block. and I got to eat there while I was doing my field research, you know. But it was really interesting to see how this place was trying to survive against, you know, basically. So you do restaurants.

30:34I thought it was like cultures across the world. Like you're like. It is. This was cultural. Oh, okay. It was my wife. My wife went to Nicaragua. It's a restaurant review, dude. Yeah, no. It's a restaurant. Yeah, no. Wait, what restaurant was it? We can always cut it out. It was called La Taza de Oro. It's not on, it's not there anymore. Yeah. We published the thesis actually to Yelp, so it was interesting to get to publish. No, no, no, I'm kidding. You know, not every student gets their work published, but for me, it went, you know, it was in the bottom. When I got my PhD from food porn on Instagram.

31:13Exactly. Fucking. All right, now, what about, let's talk about, was Squid and the Whale the thing that sort of launched you a bit? No, I was in a movie before that when I was like 18. Roger Dodger? Yeah, Roger Dodger right out of high school, yeah. Right. And it was like the difference between having an acting career or not. It was literally the difference because I was supposed to go to college that year and my dad, I pled with him. I was like, please just read the script, it's so good. And my dad read it and said, okay, you could take off a semester and do this movie. and the movie was like not a hit but was like popular amongst, you know, people who like movies.

31:52And then that meant, again, God bless Wikipedia, that meant no NYU for you but the new school when you were done with it. Yes? Yes. Oh my God. Which paragraph are you up to? I've been up for at least an hour and a half. Is that early career in school or are you on personal info? I think it's under controversies. Because sometimes they mix it up, you know what I mean? I think it's under cancellation. All right, so you do Roger Dodger and you feel that there's something... Wait, can I just say this? Sorry to get it. Can I just say, it is a real... Maybe I've mentioned this before, but it's a real testament to who you are in this world when your filmography has its own page on Wikipedia.

32:33Have you ever noticed that? Oh, yeah. What does that mean? That is something else. Well, he's going to somebody and they have filmography and it goes... Oh, it transfers you? It transfers you. There's a link because it has its own page. Oh, is that what's happening here? That is the highest of time. That is the goal. That is the goal. Yeah, you know you've made it when you have to transfer. So there's a feeling that is very tangible that it's like, oh, I think I might be able to make a career out of this based on this sort of newfound access and inclusion. Yes? Exactly, exactly. And like right after that movie, I got like offered another movie and it was to pay scale.

33:11It was like a movie. I don't think it ever got made. It was probably like a$50 ,000 budget. But I remember going to my dad and I was like, I could get jobs. Like, I could literally just get jobs. Because before that, you know, I was auditioning for commercials and anything that I could possibly get an audition for and, you know, understudies and plays and stuff like that. So it felt like, oh, I can literally make a career and a possible living from this. Right. And then what was the next big job? Was it Squid and the Whale? Yeah, actually, no. Right before that, I did this movie, Cursed. It was Dimension, and it was Dimension.

33:40So it was run by Bob Weinstein. And this guy would, it was crazy. This guy, basically it was a Wes Craven directed movie and Bob Weinstein would just constantly scrap everything we'd done to the point where we shot, it was supposed to be a 55-day shoot. We shot 125 days. Oh my God. Because this guy, Bob Weinstein, who's not like, you know, a writer, you know, would just decide he wanted to change everything in the script and it was crazy. It was crazy and fascinating to work with that man. I wonder what he's up to right now. I think we know what his brother's doing, but wonder what Bob is doing.

34:09Probably his neck in lawsuits. No, I'm kidding. what he's up to. I wanted to turn down the movie and he called me in for a meeting and he's threatened my career. And then he said, at the end, as I was leaving, he said, I know where you live. I said, what? Jesus Christ. And I was like, are you kidding? And he was like, no, no, no. She told me, his casting director. He goes, no, no, no. She told me where you live. Oh, these guys. Wow. What a duo. I know. Unbelievable. When all this stuff came out, I was just like, oh yeah, I've been telling this story forever. And people sometimes can't believe it.

34:41It sounds so shocking. And then of course, my story was like, nothing compared to, you know. Yeah, cute. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's cute. All right. You're like, it's just like a fun, it's fun banter for a podcast. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, not, yeah, not. So now we're to Squid and the Whale with the great Laura Linney. Oh, yeah. The incredible Noah Baumbach. Did you, and Jeff Daniels, did you learn a great deal from Mr. Baumbach there with the writing and the directing? Did that plant an early seed for you? Well, it's just like he was writing just stuff that amused him. And so that was the trick.

35:21It's like, oh, yeah, you can write the things that you like. And it'll translate, you know, hopefully. And the other main thing I learned was from Lauren. I don't know if she ever did this to you, probably. But she had a slap me in the movie. Has she slapped you? Probably. Probably, yeah. Okay, so this is what she told me. Right before she slapped me, she said, she said, do you know what the trick is to slap somebody in a movie? And I was like, no, please tell me. Thank you, tell me. She just whacked you? Surprise. Yeah, she goes, you look the person in the eye and then you just, you hit them with your hand.

35:50And I was like, oh, that's not a trick at all. And so she just spent the night slapping me. And that was the trick. And then in this movie I made with Kieran, I said, you know, I have to slap him at the end of the movie. And it's this big thing at the end of the movie. And I told him, do you know the trick? I learned this from the great Laura Linney. And I was like, you just, I slap you really hard. You just gotta make sure you have eye contact. Yeah, exactly. Make eye contact. Yeah, which doesn't mitigate the feeling at all. No, it doesn't. It makes it more personal. If anything, it makes it worse.

36:16Yes, that's true. I've had to do some slaps, and I've found that you just have to change the timing of it on every single take so that you get that genuine surprise. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, that's interesting. Which is not really fair to the person receiving the slap, but it's great for the audience. Yeah. On Will and Grace, if we were to slap somebody, Jimmy Burroughs would clap off screen. Wait, what? Time it for our face. Really? Wait, but you were not actually near them. No, you would fake the slap. You would go just in front of their face, but he would time it. He would just, you know, clap.

36:51Oh, that's interesting. So that the audience would hear that it wasn't a miss. Yes. That's right. The great Jimmy Burroughs. By the way, and that's the sound that they would keep in the show. Oh, wow. JB, do you remember season one of Arrested Development? I was in a wheelchair, and I was wearing a hospital gown, and you were leaning down in front of me. It was the end of an episode. You were leaning down in front of me. And as you leaned down, I slapped you in the face. It was not in the script. It was apropos of nothing. I slapped you and you looked at me. And my bare leg was showing because I was wearing a hospital gown.

37:21And as you got up, you slapped the inside of my leg so much. About as hard as I could. Hard as I could. Oh, wow. And in the show, I go, oh, just because it really happened. You fucking killed me. Right, and it was safe to do that because you're in a wheelchair. share you can't possibly get up and run after my character couldn't get up and run after him so he knew the character yeah oh that's funny it's not dumb was it it was not it was happened on one take how about it's in the show and that's what's in the show yeah yeah and jay and jay i learned i learned on the tour of the the smartless tour that jason will just i've never had somebody do this in my entire life he would just walk up to me and slap me on my face yeah yeah just just Do you make eye contact?

38:01Hey, buddy. I love the way you act. Like you're just as surprised as everybody, Jason. You just went, yeah, I know. I learned that. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, like I just do that. Like I do it all the time. It's a love tap, y 'all. Well, it's pretty hard. We'll be right back.

38:20And now back to the show. Now, speaking of magic, the magic of movies, let's get to Now You See Me. So there was a lot of magic in that or illusions. Sorry, Will, illusions. No worries. Yeah, sure. I would imagine you did a little bit of training for that. Have you retained any magical talents? Like, do you have a go-to card trick? I do. I do. And it's weird because I have like muscle memory from it. We just finished doing the third movie like a month ago. Oh, my God. And I just do the same one trick I know. And for audiences who are paying attention, they'll realize that the greatest magician in the world knows one trick.

38:56Yeah? I just repurposed the one thing I learned. Yeah. In a different outfit. Someone was doing a magic thing. It's something I was at last week. And I just thought that, like, and he did a series of magical tricks, as they do, before they're done with their set. And by the time you get to, like, the third trick, you know your mind's going to be blown. You know you're going to be like, oh, my God, how do you do that? And you just sort of, like, click into a gear of, like, all right, let's see it. Here comes another sort of mind-bending, wow. And what I thought was what would really be impressive at this point is to now tell us how you did it.

39:33Because I know I'm going to be shocked. What would be really impressive is to see how you're doing this stuff, how you trained yourself and taught yourself to hide all these things that I didn't see. So when is magic going to change into that? God, when are you going to enjoy life? When? When will you enjoy anything? That's the magic. that's the magic my heart is breaking from you I just had therapy but when we're done I'm gonna call him and I'm gonna bring you in JB jump on with Terry fuck man oh god my heart I wanna I used to see a Terry I wanna hug you I wonder if you see the same Terry I really wanna hug you right now I feel like there's just zero you can't experience I'll take it I'll take a hug anytime or slab but Jason there is this show on TV it was called like Breaking the Magician's Code or something like that It's like magic's biggest secrets or something like that.

40:24And they did that. They revealed all those big tricks and how they did it. I thought it was fascinating. I want to see that. I'll look at that. And then what are you left with? Then I'll just start reading ingredients on food packaging, just knowing what's on the inside. There's tons of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Read credits on movies. You're going to peek behind every curtain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you hear about these, when you hear how these magicians have done the trick, though, sometimes it's far more impressive than the trick because the kind of work that went into making something look seamless is like, you know, shocking.

40:54Right, right, right, right. All right, talk to me about your move into directing, why that happened and when it happened. Was it simply a result of you arriving at a place in your career where you could say, hey, I want to now direct and you had the sort of industry capital in order to say that? or did it happen more organically than that? No, I basically... In other words, had you wanted to do it for a long, long time? No, I've always just wanted to write plays. And then my last play, which was like 2019, just like wasn't received well. And I was like kind of really, yeah, like kind of heartbroken or whatever.

41:35Like the play wasn't received well. And I mean, the actors were amazing in it, but the play wasn't received well. And like, so I just was like, I have to try something else. It just made me feel bad. And there was like scrutiny in a way that felt like mean-spirited in a way that was like, oh, this is industry can be, I mean, movies can also be quite cruel. Reviews usually are. But there's something about theater because it's such a small community. I don't know, it just, anyway. So I just thought, let me try to, I'll do a movie next. Yeah, no, but I love writing plays more than anything. But I just thought maybe I should do a movie because, yeah, and the thing you said about clout, that like, I did, I guess, feel not so much clout, but more like, oh, I feel like I've been around it enough to kind of have an understanding of what to do.

42:14I know that sounds so lame. like I didn't go to film school. But I just felt like I've been on sets that have been great and I've been on sets that didn't work and I've been on sets that were terrible sets but made great movies and vice versa. I felt like, oh no, I think I know what to do if I can write something that is like tailored to my limited skill set. There's nothing wrong. Yeah, obviously you're around it, you pick up on it and it makes sense that you would want to sort of take agency and kind of do it yourself. And Sean last week, watching his chef open tuna cans and finally he was like, I'm going to open a tuna can.

42:48It's not dissimilar. You know what I mean? I can pinch the top on and make the water come out. Or at least let me try it. I can eat the Hershey syrup out of the bottle. You know what I mean? Watch me squirt it. Of course. And I think in Sean's case, it is cloud. You know, I think you feel you've worked up to this. And I think the industry recognizes that you can open that stuff. I didn't want to embarrass anybody. Yeah. No, and it's good that you're finally in a place where you feel like, yes, I can do that. And yes, I'm not going to get It's really good. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. So wait, so you were feeling a little in your fifes about getting the bad reviews basically on the play and then you thought you'd go for something with even higher exposure directing a film where you would be opening yourself up to even more scrutiny.

43:34A broader audience. Yeah. I was very brave of you. You went the other way. Oh, thanks. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, but I guess I'm used to scrutiny. I mean, I'm used to scrutiny and I care about it so much, I guess, while it's happening and then literally not the next day. I just, you know, I don't want to be governed. Laura Linney said the greatest thing that I actually didn't hear her say, but my dad heard her on Charlie Rose talk about this 20 years ago. But they asked, or he asked her, do you read reviews? And she says, no, because I don't want somebody else to tell me how to do my job. And my dad was telling me this because I'm such like, I was like a self-conscious person.

44:06He said, you know, your colleague who you were in that movie with, you know, this is how she views it. And it did really change my perspective. That's interesting. It is a really odd concept. I totally understand the aggregate of them all, right? So Rotten Tomatoes, where they put them all together. And then there's sort of like a consensus. Does this work for the general public, I suppose, since you're making a public effort with your art? Yeah, of course. But specific reviewers, their specific take on how it affected them as an individual, well, we're not making things for one individual. We're making things for a whole public.

44:45And so it's not going to work for some people, and that doesn't mean that it's broken. But I also saw, like, well, I think you're right about the aggregate thing, but at the same time, have there been films or pieces or music that have gotten bad reviews that you really like? Oh, my God, yes. Can you think of one? Think of a film of it. The New World, a Terrence Malick film, The New World, got not great reviews. Interstellar, Chris Nolan's film, not great reviews. Sean, what about you? I love those two films. Yeah, Interstellar. I mean, I can't think of them, but I know that I'll look on Rotten Tomatoes and conversely.

45:16The latest Batman film I thought was incredible. Jesse, can you think of a film? I mostly have it like with theater. I mostly have it with theater where like I am enthralled by a piece and then I look online. I'm like, how is this torn apart? This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Because there's something about like, and I don't know, maybe that even has to do with like different performances offer different things. I don't know. But I do think that all the time. But I'll go the other way too. I felt the same way as season three of Ned and Stacey. Sorry, go ahead, Sean. I'll look at Rotten Tomatoes and something will get like 90 % or 95%.

45:49And I'll watch it. I'm like, oh, good. They did the work for me. It's going to be great, right? Right, right, right. And it's terrible. I loved Tenet. Nobody, a lot of Tenet, the Christian film movie got ruined. I've seen it three times. Right during COVID, it got lost, right? I loved it. Sean, you didn't love it. I loved it. I didn't get it. Yeah, I didn't understand. You didn't love it. One more thing about the directing thing. Have you ever gotten a really crazy direction from a director? That's A. B, how has getting weird direction from directors affected the way in which you interface with actors?

46:30Also, you know, being an actor yourself. And like, you've worked with some incredible directors. and I'm sure you've been able to cherry pick from the best of them and decided what not to do from the bad ones. But was there one in particular moment where you're like, I will never ever do that to a poor actor? Or could I remember? Only my friend, like Ruben Fleischer, who I think you guys know, like, you know, he just, oh, he did like the Zombieland movies and then we just did Now You See Me together. I've worked with him a lot. And I just remember on like the first Zombieland, we were shooting in like what was supposed to be like a mansion.

47:00And so he was like several rooms away on the monitor. and I just heard this muffled scream, now smile. And I was like, I could understand that he was kind of talking to me, but also I'm not like a smiler, but also like it can't come, you can't, that's not the way you act. Like, oh, my face will smile. So that was just something I was like, oh yeah, I'll never do that. But I love Ruben and now he's great. But you guys have worked with Greg Mottola, I think too. Yes, yeah, yeah. And he's just like my favorite. Like I just, the way he handled this crew and the cast. And I had like, which happened to me maybe two or three times in my life.

47:39I had like kind of a panic attack during a scene. And I just shut down. And I just couldn't act. I don't know what happened. I just couldn't act. And so it was on this movie Adventureland. I took him aside and I said, I'm so sorry. I don't know what happened. I think I had a panic attack. And I thought he was going to say, well, you know, we can't. I thought he was going to, you know, respond annoyed. And he said, I don't understand how you're not having a panic attack every scene. Like you're exposing yourself. you're bringing your emotions, you're trying to not think about your own vanity. He is such a sweet man.

48:05And I just remember thinking, that's the way I want to think about actors forever, which is that they're already doing this difficult thing. They're trying to avoid thinking about their face being blown up on screen. They're avoiding thinking about the scrutiny that they're going to get. They're trying to live in the moment despite 100 strangers standing around them. And so that was a key for me. He's just the best, isn't he? Right, which is why I don't understand. For the most part, we actors are pretty crazy. And I'm talking about myself. Like, I'm fucking nuts. And I'm filled with neuroses and insecurities.

48:35It is a helpful tool to pull. It's a helpful tool to call on when you're playing, you know, vulnerable characters. But the central thing that we are doing, which is being up there in front of the camera, sort of is at odds with the inherent insecurities a lot of us have. So speak about that. Because again, getting back to, you know, you're so self-effacing and honest about your own neuroses. How were you possibly drawn to this incredibly, you know, exposing profession? Because to me, to have like a prescribed way of behaving because of a character and lines, I feel so comfortable. Like the thing that makes me nervous is like you go into a party and what do I say to this person?

49:22Do I remember this person? What did this person tell me? Why do I have to be funny in this thing? I just want to go home. like to have like a prescribed way like you're playing this character they wear these pants that we put you in and you have to now go talk to that other person in this voice like oh yeah this is the greatest thing in the world calming yeah so calming now what about I had the same feeling and then I started doing talk shows when I was a kid and it freaked me out because you have to be you and there is no script and it's like and there is no you right exactly I mean talk about panic attacks I'm prone to panic as well and talk shows for a long time were just like my kryptonite.

49:58It's the only thing that still freaks me out in our industry. Like literally nothing else but going on these talk shows at night freaked me out because I can't be funny telling a story for like the second time, you know? I don't know. I've seen you on talk shows, Jesse. You kill it every time. Yeah, you're awesome. I agree. I've seen you too. Because I try to not tell the story on the show that I told to the person before the day. Because I know if I did that, it would just be weird and phony. you'd be trying to remember what made them laugh on the phone. Kind of like a performance. But if you get a great host like Kimmel or Conan or those guys, they'll go with you, right?

50:36Yeah, that's true. You can kind of freestyle, and they can just get into a conversation, and you forget you're even in front of people. But you're doing this, and then you're doing Graham Norton. Do you ever get burnt out by all of the chatter that you have to come up with? I don't. I don't. I feel like an adrenaline rush when I'm meeting people like you who are really funny. and him, I'm sure he's very funny. You know, you get the adrenaline rush of doing a thing that's fun. Right, and when you're promoting something that you love, like this great movie, A Real Pain, I'm sure it's just like you could talk all day about it, right?

51:07Yeah, I guess, yeah, because I've done junkets that we all have for things that have not gone well. And yeah, that can be really uncomfortable and you're kind of just parsing the... Right, yes. Before we let you go, I just wanted to find you on social media. If I wanted to find you on social media, what's your name? Yeah, exactly. it's at the real at the real

51:28Jesse you're awesome you're funny as shit you're talented as hell nice as ever oh thanks I love your show thank you so much for having me on it say hi to Karen and Daniel and Graham enjoy the rest of your day thank you very very much for doing this buddy you're very busy right now it's such a fucking pleasure having you dude oh yeah thank you such an honor too okay well have a great morning look forward to meeting you one day in person Yeah. Me too. All right, buddy. All right. Enjoy. Bye-bye. Now there's a nice fella. Love that guy. Yeah, he's really funny. Love that guy. I have no idea what to expect.

52:04Did you know him before this? No. And now I want to do a lot of in-person with him. I want to find him at a party and corner him. Yeah. I know. I want to Cafe Clooney to have lunch with him next week. Hey, you don't. Nice pipes, Will. Will just removed his sleeves. I know. Jesus. I just rolled them up. Will, what part of your brain... What part of your brain came up with Ned and Stacey? I don't know. Well, that's the place where Will and I first met. That's where Jason and I first met on the set of Ned and Stacey. What are you talking about? That was Debra Messing's show. He was buddies. Yeah, correct.

52:34I was doing a guest shot on it, and Will was friends with Nadia. Dijani. Dijani. And we all went out for drinks after the show, as one does. And there I was with Will at the bar, apparently getting hammered. We were getting hammered. And Jason had a very weak bladder because he kept going to the bathroom. Yeah. And it was years later that I said to Will after I had put down the bottle. Like seven years later. Yeah, I said to Will. And Will hadn't been drinking either for a long time. I said, boy, fuck. I wish you and I had really gotten together when we were drinking. And we would have had so much fun.

53:15And he just looked at me and goes, oh, we did. and I had no recollection of partying with him that night. That's so funny. I love that Jesse. I mean, that Jesse Eisenberg, he's really left me in a great, great mood. High quality guy, high talent guy, high intelligence guy. The guy, he's a writer. He's an actor. I guess you could call him by... talented. No? Sorry. I'm trying not to go Try not to do the fucking Sean Bye Like what You do it You do it Let's hear it Okay Bye Yeah why is that Why do you go into that It feels good It feels really good in my throat Can we harmonize the bye talented Okay ready ready go One two three Bye Bye No someone's gotta go high Someone's gotta go low Someone's gotta go middle I'll go middle I'll go middle You go high And we'll go low Ready Okay ready go Sean you start Okay No you gotta start at the base by talented SmartLess.

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