"Jessica Chastain"

25:30And you were so kind. This was 20 years ago? Yeah, a long time ago. Before anyone even cared anything about anything I did. Or me or Ned. Jason didn't care. He didn't even bring it up. He's been talking to you for half an hour and you had to bring it up. How embarrassing. You wonder if people remember things because I sure don't. Jason, can I talk to you for one second? You don't know what the guest wants to talk about. It's her show. By the way, he just did us a favor because he did, that shows a sign of respect out of Jason that he didn't just bring the Dodgers up and talk about them for 20 minutes.

26:02Oh, yeah. Because he would love to do that. Or Ned. Or Ned. Or Ned. Love Ned. So, Jessica, because we had similar backgrounds to you, is that part of, you know, some people think it's not cool to talk about drive or ambition, but everybody has it who has any, even the smallest amount of success. You have to have some drive. Yeah. Why does that get a bad rap? Like, you're supposed to want things in this life, yeah, and then you get mocked for actually pursuing them? And then if you don't, then you're called lazy. Unmotivated and entitled. I wonder if it's that people mistake drive ambition for ego, for like narcissism.

26:42When in reality, like my drive and ambition comes from, I mean, we're going to get real deep here. Maybe it comes from a sense of like wanting to be better. And maybe that also comes from my upbringing, a sense of like, I want to be better than I, you know, I just want to get better every day. Just to see how much better you can get. It's just challenging yourself, right? Yeah. And it's not like, I want it all. It's just, I want to do a good job. See if I can do more or take on more. Yeah. I mean, this all falls under the heading of challenge yourself probably, right? And if you're not, I suspect everybody here is the same in this way that, for instance, I constantly say like, you know, I'm just going to retire.

27:29I'm just too tired and stuff. And then I think like I couldn't do it for six hours because I just, it's not that I get bored, but I just want to, that's the whole purpose of life is to engage and to challenge yourself and to be constantly, right? Yeah, and hopefully you're constantly in a state of having the courage to ask for more. Because oftentimes I've been in a place of, oh, my God, I can't. Thank God I'm not being asked to bear any responsibility because I just don't have the ego or the confidence to take it on right now. Like I've been in that place a lot of times in my life. And if you find yourself in a place of like, no, please let the phone ring.

28:02I want the ball. That's a great place to be. That's a gift and that's a positive. Sean, do you want the ball? Or both? We have a couple of them. Jessica, let me ask you this, because I've been going through this lately, which is, you know, I'm 53, and I think... You look great. You look amazing. I was not trying to elicit. Thank you. I was thinking... A brand of a t-shirt. You can't play a day over 35. I mean, you can tell that you hang out a lot. It's real. You work out a lot. It's real. The tan is real. Look at that hair piece. That's not a cheap one, you know? No. This one's new, by the way.

28:36I think it works. I can tell it. It's really high. I think I rotated. I forget how I get this one. But I've been having this thing lately where I'm working on stuff for doing things, and I've been able to say, I think I was saying to you, Jay, maybe the other day, that I can admit that I'm, like, scared because I'm about to do something, you know, that is maybe out of my comfort zone a little bit. And I think when I was a younger man, I had a tougher time admitting that, or I wasn't involved enough, or I wasn't mature enough. And I wonder if you have those things. You do a lot of things that are very challenging, certainly when it comes to your work.

29:12Do you have those moments now as you get older where you go like, yeah, I'm scared about this or I'm nervous? Not that you're not going to do it, but that you recognize that. Do you have that at all? Are you asking me? Yeah. Yes. I don't care what they think. I mean, it's also the sense of because I don't feel far away from how I grew up. I always want to feel like I'm grateful and thankful. So I don't, I find laziness the, in my, who I am, I find it to be the worst trait. And I also have difficulty with lazy, you know, if someone's super lazy, I have difficulty being around it because I feel like, wow, you could do so much.

29:57You could do, you know, there's all these incredible things out there that you could be a part of if you just showed up, show up for yourself and show, you know, for others. And so I have that in me where it's like even if I'm really scared, if there's someone that believes that I can do it, I don't want to let them down and I really want to push myself and I don't want to allow any kind of nerves or fear. And especially with Tammy Faye, I had so much fear of like, oh, my God, this is such a swing. And I'm going to get made fun of myself. But this idea of like I can't like allow. And that's ego, actually.

30:34if you allow your ego to stop you from doing something. Right. Because it's all about how you're perceived. But do you think, yeah. That's interesting. But at the same time, but is it ego? I'm asking, I'm actually like wondering, maybe you guys jump in. Is it ego to acknowledge that fear? Meaning a good thing or a bad thing? Yeah, like just to go like, hey, this is something that's really challenging and I need to, and just recognizing it. I think it would take a healthy ego to admit that something is presenting a challenge to you. And I think, but it is also that same ego that's going to be the fuel to push you through it.

31:09And that you shouldn't be nervous about the fact that you're not feeling the confidence to run into the situation because the confidence lives on the backside of the accomplishment. It's like, no, the confidence will be there once I get through it. You know, that's what I'm going to earn. So don't take it as a false negative. It would be a false negative to think, oh God, I can't handle this because I'm not feeling confident going into it. The confidence lives after it, I think, for me. For sure, for sure. Totally. Very well. If you're confident while you're doing it, if I am, I find that the work is probably bad.

31:42It's not as good, yeah. For sure. Anxiety is a good gas. When you're like, yeah, I got this, man. Yeah, exactly. I am petrified before every single performance. Is that true? Petrified. That makes you great. Well, I don't know about that, but I just like... Okay, Tony winner. No, no, no, I'm being... Thanks. Makes you great. Well, thanks, but I'm just saying it's a true... I don't know if it does. So I'm agreeing with you, Sean. We've seen the show. But wait, I want to talk... So Jessica, like back to like... When I was a kid, I was just... I'm asking you if you felt the same thing. When I was a kid, I had...

32:25You know, my dad left and my mom was always working. She was great, but you were kind of left to parent yourself. And so you kind of are given this option of figuring this life out on your own or kind of just taking a backseat to it. And I think that decision at some point was like, wait a minute, no one's, I have to figure, I have to take care of myself and figure this out for myself. So, and I, and I've taken that into adulthood where it's just like, and I think for better or worse, sometimes worse, I, I, I don't stop. Like I, I, I got to get food on the table. I got to eat. I got it because I've been so, there's been so many times when I didn't have food and I didn't have, you know, so it's a fear as much as it is a drive.

33:05Wow, we have very similar upbringings, Sean. It's crazy. It should be noted, Sean, you feed yourself the same way you did when you were 11, which is just tuna salad, potato chips and soda. Macaroni and cheese. Don't forget about the mac and cheese. It's so true. It's so true. By the way, on my corner of my building, there is an ice cream truck every single day in a fruit stand. I passed that fruit stand. Yeah. Don't even look at the poor guy. Yeah, do you guys find, Jessica and Sean, that you're not at, that you're not great at asking for help, that you're not great at sort of deferring or delegating because you've had to sort of be self-sufficient for so long?

33:40Yeah, I do. I tend to do everything and to the point where then I get completely overwhelmed. And I think because I was the oldest child too, there was a sense of having to take care of my, I almost said my kids, my siblings. You know, my mom would bartend and it would be like us there you know so it was really a sense of um trying to figure out you know how everyone was going to be okay um so i i think i also have that now even as like this is too much and my friends are like okay settle down chastain but i try to like someone has an issue i'm like okay let's solve it let's figure it out let's you know and i've had to understand that everyone has the dignity of their own process yes and i allow them to have their own life i'm so similar and these guys can attest to it, I'm like, hey, should we?

34:30I'm on it! I'm like, I'll get it. I'll take care of it. Sean, we'll get an email about some work thing and it'll be like a long email that'll have maybe 12 points to it that most people would be like, let's talk about it and think about it, maybe for 24 hours. Yeah, I'm not even going to read this email yet. Sean, within five minutes, is like, yes and no and yes, and we should do this. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I do say to Sean, Sean and I are talking, I go, it's okay, you can just take a beat. Yeah, I know. Let's think about it. Yeah. I have to learn that. Do you... No, don't, because it's so helpful that you answer all these emails.

35:04It is the best. No, I love that you do that. Yeah. We'll be right back. And now, back to the show. Now, what about... I like to ask actors that have had the pleasure of working with so many incredible directors if there's any desire to direct because you've been exposed to so much great directing and perhaps has armed you with sort of cherry picking a bunch of different techniques that you'd want to see what you could do? Yeah, I mean, I've had thoughts about doing it, especially when I've met, there are certain actors that I've met, and I was like, oh, I really want to do something for this person.

35:47and I've thought about or like I've never seen a story about this before and I would love to tell that story and then I think about well wait a minute when you're directing you got it's going to take you a year and a half for of your life uh where I usually make like five films in that time you know and and so it's a pay cut yeah uh yeah and not even necessarily just that it's also that But maybe I have a sense of, in the same way of my personal life, I feel like I have to do everything. I want to do everything. Wow, what's it going to be when I really have to be like, I'm only allowed to do this one thing for so long?

36:25Yeah, Jay, actually, this goes to both of you, Jessica and Jason. Because, Jay, you do that. When you take a year to go and work on a film and direct it, do you miss getting that variety? And, Jessica, on the back side of that is, do you you say you would do five films is that something you like you like that constant change and that kind of that you're working on a film for three months and then you're working on something completely different for another three months do you is that something that's you're cognizant of you go jessica i would i mean i trained i trained in repertory theater so i love the idea and i would be amazing also in theater to be able to do this where you're one night you're one part and the next night you're another part.

37:11Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jussie Riley. You saw that too? We are theater nerds. Even doing different plays like having an ensemble and then every night you get to do something else. I feel like that was the hard part for me of being on this run for so long. It was the constant sense of I'm on this journey every day. and it would be nice to kind of go on the flip side and say like, okay, now maybe on Tuesdays I get to do this kind of thing and explore something else. Well, for you and for Sean, did you guys ever get, and Sean, you're still in the midst of it, you ever get to the point where it's feeling so monotonous that you are very deliberate about making tonight different?

37:56Like, I'm going to play this scene jealous instead of insecure or I'm going to, like, a completely different energy and not tell any of the other actors, but just pace and intention and everything just is still works. Well, I think the actors would really appreciate that. Well, I mean, it doesn't have to be a 180, but something that is just changes stuff up. The look from your fellow actor like I was saying is like, man, what the fuck are you? You're painting me in a corner here, man. But Jay, do you miss that? Do I? I mean, do you miss the variety? Do you miss that change when you're working on a film for a year?

38:34No, because I just, I geek out on all the processes of directing, you know, prep and post and all that stuff. But I feel like if I was on stage doing the same part for months on end, I would probably screw things up a little bit on purpose or start to get excited about, oh, who's going to forget a line tonight? You know? Yeah. Because you miss that, like, you miss getting that, like, you can say it here if you want the quote, you like to get strange. I like to get some strange. Yeah, yeah. To get some strange. When it comes to work. We got it. When it comes to work, don't be an animal, dude. What about Jessica?

39:09What about that? What Jason was saying? I've worked with someone who is like that. It's frustrating to work with someone. I mean, on film, it's great. Yeah. It's great. Do you know what I mean? I've, like, with actors, we're like, it's still the same scene, but there's all these, we're discovering new paths through the scene. Right. And who knows where the take's going to go. That's exciting. But I feel like when the show is set, it's set. Too disruptive. Yeah, I would. Sometimes when someone's done it, it feels kind of almost self-serving. So it's like, well, wait a minute. There's still a whole other journey we have to go on.

39:42And now you've kind of taken out this marker. How are we going to get there? That would be a fun war to watch if you were privy to it by being another cast member. And you can watch two like, oh. It happens a lot. Yeah, she just saw that he's trying to do a 180 on this thing. Oh, now she's going to double that 180. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then who chastises an actor? the stage manager yeah usually they're sort of the cop it's ongoing right because if you i don't think the listener knows this but if you start messing around with the dialogue you get like reported to equity and equity can find you if you start messing around with with changing lines and stuff like that oh i don't know about that isn't there i think the stage manager is like obligated to report you if you start going rogue and and changing stuff it sounds like you've snitched before jason you know the thing about snitches you know what they get What happened?

40:33Stitches get stitches, bro. Oh, shit. Sorry, go ahead, Jessica. What happened? You found out? No, I found out. I was talking to the director, and he said that every night he gets a report. He got a report, because we closed, where it was like, even like when an actor coughs, it said when the actor coughs. I know. They write down every single thing that happens in every shot. Wait, what? Yeah. Wait, what? And the producers get to read it, yeah. Yeah, so you're very aware. I mean, it's tough sometimes. I do find like in – there's a misconception about acting where someone's like, okay, the more different they are each take, the better actor they are because they're so alive, you know.

41:09And so I think people are trying to be sometimes – make things alive and exciting and – but they don't realize in theater that that can be disruptive. Yeah. Well, yeah. And in film too – and Jay, you've been through this. I've certainly been through this in post where you're like, hey, did this guy ever do one fucking take where he held the thing the same way two times? Oh, yeah. You're killing me. I can't fucking edit this scene. What is he doing? But it's okay. Like, Jay, to what you were saying, I think it's okay in a play to play within the choices that are locked. Yes. You know, within the play that is locked, you can experiment, but not enough to throw.

41:52Like there's this great, there's this John Drozetsky who plays George Gershwin. He's brilliant. Everybody's brilliant in the show. But he's so great at playing within the locked thing. He's brilliant. And one night, it almost made me laugh. He goes, Aki, you know, Oscar, who wants to hear your music, right? And I say, he's a vision in my head. He's a ghost, the ghost of Gershwin. And I say, lots of folks, that's who. And he goes, and the line is, who? your wife the kid in the lab coat right and one night he goes out of nowhere he go i go he goes who wants to hear you that your your own music i go lots of folks that's who and he goes who you got your wife you got your kid in the lab coat and then he just goes like this right and almost it almost made me die laughing but it was it was good because it was within the realm of the character.

42:49But like he was listing him, he goes, okay, your wife. Sure. In the lab coat. And I was... Yeah. You know, Michael Shannon's really good at that too. Yeah. You know, I've worked with him a lot and I'm mostly on camera. So he doesn't go... And working with him is like a... It's like kind of working with an animal because you're like, what is he going to do? But it's always within the structure and he comes from theater as well. Yeah, I love that. And it's really like... It's amazing when you're working with an actor who knows where the story has to be the most important. It's not yourself. That's what it is.

43:23It's about whether or not you're selfish. Because if you're changing it for yourself because you want to feel something new or you're bored, that's not appropriate. But if you're telling, you have to tell the story that everyone's there to tell. Exactly. I killed Michael Shannon in a movie once. With a gun? No, no, no. I stabbed him in the throat. You stabbed Michael Shannon in the throat? In the throat in Let's Go to Prison 20 years ago with Michael Schiff. That's right. Bob Odenkirk. Bob Odenkirk. How did he take that? Like a man. He took it pretty well. I remember Bob being like, okay, so Michael, oh my God.

43:59So you're just going to grab him? I'm like, wait, how are we going to do this scene? Michael is so scary. He's the best act. He's such a great guy. But I was like, I have to stab him in the throat. And he just, he did all the work. I just kind of did the motion. He was just incredible. You just did a bunch of apologizing before the scene. He was the best. I feel like we'll be remiss if we don't ask I'm going to ask usually Sean at this point has already asked you've done so much theater what's your favorite nightmare theater how did you not ask Jessica Chesty how have I not asked that question my favorite nightmare story that happened to me on stage yes alright I can say it now because we're closed this is really gross I'm going to tell you guys I threw up in a doll's house I threw up and I swallowed it oh god that a girl No way!

44:45And no one knew. And then... Because of acid reflux or something? No, it's a bad performance from your co-star? What's his name? I think I... And then from then on, I was like, I'm not eating within three hours of the show. Same. Yeah, it's crazy. Wait, what happened? I don't know if I was nervous. I was kind of sobbing. I leaned over and it happened. And then for the rest... And I was like, oh my God. You know, you can't let it out of your mouth. And then for the rest of the show, I couldn't tell anyone because I was on a chair facing the audience the whole time. Do you have any intimate scenes after that?

45:18I had to kiss someone. Sure. No. No. Yes. Yes. It was a nightmare and I couldn't explain. And then the second we had the curtain call and the curtain came down, I said, you guys, I'm so sorry. I vomited. That's so crazy because, Jason, didn't you ever think for a long time that women would barf after they kissed you, right? Yeah. Which is better. Yeah. Jessica, that's insane. That's crazy. Can I ask, was it an open mouth kiss that you had to do on stage? No, that night it was definitely a closed mouth kiss. I mean, it was supposed to be kind of like, it wasn't a sensual, it wasn't like a really sexy, like we're about to sleep, you know.

46:00But it was, you know, a sensual kiss. And that night I was like, oh. I mean, even talking to anyone, I was just so. Oh, my God. I have to, in the show, I have to scream in front of this guy, Peter Gross, who's a brilliant, also brilliant in the show. And we get in a screaming match, and we're literally nose to nose. And one night, I don't know what happened. It was just like a couple weeks ago. So much saliva came spewing from my mouth. It was all over his face as I'm screaming. And then that night after he goes, he was so sweet about it. He goes, hey, can I talk to you about that one? And I go, yeah.

46:39He goes, is there any way that you could spit just a little less when we argue? I was like, absolutely. Absolutely. He was so sweet about it. It was like a tick explosion, right? Yeah, but it's really funny because it's obviously not something you had control over. It wasn't like you thought like, oh, I'm going to really go to town and saliva all over his face tonight. No, no, but he was right. I actually can control it now. Now that he's brought it up, I actually figured it out. Let me ask you, if he hadn't brought it up, would you have continued doing it? Great question. Spitting that much? Yeah.

47:10Probably not. I probably, I know what he meant. I know what he meant. It was like, it was like spitting everywhere. Oh my God. Poor guy's covered in sloppy Joe and chin chin. Sean, you get chin chin flown out. Sorry, go ahead, Jason. Absolutely. I was just going to ask Jessica, now that the show is done, you're going to take some time off. I would assume you're going to start doing the thing you're second best at, which is probably as good, probably a lot of parenting. But like what about the – is there a hobby? Is there something that we would be surprised to learn that you're almost as good at?

47:49Backstage? No, I'm not good at anything else. That's a terrible thing. Come on, that's not true. I mean I have a production company and – That doesn't count. We're talking about non-business. We're talking about pickleball. Painting. Cooking. Baking. Okay. I went to cooking school. What? Yes. Yeah, I went to school. So after Zero Dark Thirty, I was like, I want to do something completely different. I went to cooking school. And? So I'm a good cook. What kind of cooking? What kind of cooking? Like saucy stuff? I love the kind of, I like roasting and I like the kind of cooking that the whole house, it's like a slow cook situation.

48:27So for hours, it'll be like the smell of something. Like I love poached pears with sweet potato ice cream and, you know, that kind of stuff. God, that sounds good. You make the ice cream? Yeah. Really? It's like the fall cooking. Right. You know, that kind of like it's starting to get cold outside. Yeah, yeah. And then the house. Remember that? Yeah. I know. Wait a minute. Wait, you make ice cream? I'm always fascinated. And an ice cream maker. I mean, it's very easy. I got to get one of those. Oh, you do? It's so easy. It takes 30 minutes. Sean, I wouldn't. That sounds like a real slippery slope for you.

49:00Yeah, dude. Come on. That sounds kind of interesting. I mean, legitimately. Yeah. We're going to have to cut you out of your house at some point. Hey, Jessica, I think that you should do like a food line. Or like cookbooks or something. I think it would be pretty massive. You think so? Sure. Yeah, I do. Just fall cooking. Yeah. With Jessie Boo. Jessie Boo. Yeah, that's your title. I love it. I don't know that it would be super interesting to watch, especially if it's like a four-hour show where you're just like, let's look at it in the oven. No, but if you did like a book, if you did like a cookbook and did some stuff and did a line of food, I think it would do real, real well.

49:41All right. All right. Well, maybe that's my second chapter. And you could call it like juke, right? J-O-O-C. Kind of like goop, but you know. Juke. After talking about vomiting on the stage, I could open with that and then say, listen, it's so good you could... No, I don't even... Oh, my God. It's so good you can eat it twice. There you go. We've got it. Oh, my God. Listen, we have monopolized. I just realized we could just keep talking, but we're crushing you in time, and you need to go on vacation. Yeah. Thank you for visiting with us, Jessica. Yeah, Jessica, thank you so much. I was so happy when I got asked to do this.

50:23I, of course, listened to the Cate Blanchett one. Oh, yeah. I love how much you all tease Sean for being as equally as theater nerdy as all of us. He's such a good guy. I love it. With a big smile. He's not just theater nerdy. He's everything nerdy, as it turns out. Do you have any Star Wars questions for him? Yeah. I'd love it. Or Star Trek. Or Battlestar Galactica. Any of the stars. Although I will say this. This is what I wanted to ask you. Before I let you go, just bringing up Star Wars and stuff. You've done a few, I'm going to say science fiction. Not really. But in that realm, I mean, Interstellar, Martian, some of the bigger ones that fall.

50:59Right? I loved Interstellar. I mean, I know, me too. We were just saying yesterday how much, it's my 14-year-old's favorite film. He's seen it 30 times. Do you like that genre? Because you've done a bunch on the highest level. Yeah. I mean, in fact, after I did Interstellar, I got to work with Kip Thorne on that, which was amazing. and even trying at the end, writing the equation and all that stuff. That was obviously a lot of work to try to look like. That was believable at all. But then when I finished that and Ridley Scott came up to me and approached me about doing The Martian, I said, yeah, here's my thing, though.

51:38If I sign on, I want to go to space camp. And he goes, there's no really adult space camp. And I was like, well, we can make one. So I went to Houston. I want to do this. It's in Aspen, Houston, and I went to JPL, and I saw, like, the rovers. I've been there, yes. It's amazing. Amazing. And I did, like, the whole virtual reality where you're on Mars. On Mars, and you can walk. Yes. Oh, my God, I did the same thing. Yeah, and so I was really, like, I'm excited to do things. Who knows what the film or the project's going to be when it finishes, but I just want to know that the experience of making something is going to be enriching in some way to my life.

52:16And so that was really, yeah. I mean, if someone wants to give me another sci-fi space movie, I don't know. I'm into what else can I live. Are you a fan of the genre? Like, are you a, like, Star Wars, Star Trek, anything like that? No. No. Okay. Jessica, thank you so much for being here. I mean, I am when it's based in reality. Sean hates you now. Sean, are you crying? Sorry, Sean. Sean, get it together. I know. My very good friend Oscar Isaac did all the Star Wars, and I, you know, I'm not. I like it when it's when it feels like it's happening or it's real. Well, don't worry, Jessica. I'm not a huge fan.

52:49I'm with you. Yeah. But I like Game of Thrones and there's dragons there. So I'm all over the place. That works for me. Sure. The great Jessica Cheshan. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks, guys. What a pleasure. So a wonderful surprise. Great to see you again. Yeah. Thank you, Jessica. All right. What do I do? Do I cover my mic? Do I get out of here? Just slam it shut if you want. Whatever you want. Bye, guys. Congratulations, Sean. Thank you so much for this. Bye, Jessica. Thank you. Thanks. Wow. Well, you classed it up a little bit. Classed it up. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what a surprise. I mean, I just literally saw her yesterday, or two days ago.

53:25Two months ago. Two months ago, Sean. This is delayed. It's wild. I just saw her two months ago. How many times do I need to do this? You're going to love show business. How funny, right, Sean, that we had Jessica, because you guys spent so much time, you saw her all the time. So much time together, yeah. Back in the day over on Broadway. Always saw her. She was always so pleasant, always so sweet. And, you know, I fanned out. She's so, I get it. Who wouldn't fanned out? She's so accomplished. And she's so good at what she does. Yeah, there's not a lot of, you know, back to that Juilliard thing.

53:53You do always think, I always, you know, I always just think you're set. If you go to Juilliard, you're set. And, like, she's one of those people that made that happen. What a talent. I know. Have you seen, sorry, I just wanted, I cut you off, but did you see George and Tammy? No. The thing we were talking about with her and Michael Shannon. Yeah. Incredible. I know. It's about Tammy Wynette and George Jones. Yeah. And she is. Yeah, I want to see it. They're both so good in it. So, so, so good. And so, such unbelievable talent. And yeah, really, really, really good. Yeah, and the season one already happened.

54:30I think it's season two is coming out or something. And I want to catch up. I don't know. It's amazing. And just, I don't know. Anyway, she's, what a delight. Yeah. She seems like easy to hang out with too. Sean, and I loved how much you and she have sort of similar trajectories in that way. Isn't that wild? Yeah. I had no idea. We didn't really get into it when I saw her. There was never time to like, how was your childhood? You mean when you were doing like press stuff for your plays, you weren't like, hey, did you also have five brothers and sisters and did you grow up with a single one? Yeah, we didn't get into that.

55:03Well, that would have been weird, dude. I know. Maybe if you'd just done the small effort of walking across the street or next door and seen her fucking show. I wish I could, but I'm in the show. You could have because you had the down nights. Well, now she can see yours. You had Tuesday nights and you could have gone. Oh, I did have Tuesday nights. And you could have gone. What were you doing on Tuesday nights aside from just warming donuts in your toaster oven?

55:26When was the last time you warned, be honest, warmed a donut? When was the last time you cut a donut open, right? You just butterflied it. You scooped it and toasted it in your toaster oven. By the way, how good does that sound? Sometimes there's donuts at work. Sometimes people bring donuts. And you do the half thing where you're just, I'm just going to eat half. I promise you. No, I know. And then a half hour later. Oh, when they're flipped open and there's a plastic knife left in there and people just cut little pieces off it? Yeah. And then the same person comes back and just finishes it. Comes back five times.

55:56That's why in Canada we got the Tim Bits, eh? Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. If you're going to go to Timmy's. Timmy Horton. He's just got great donuts. I used to eat a Tim Hortons all the time. Oh, they're so good, eh? So good. Get some. Turkey sandwich. Yeah. Honestly, the thing is, what's great about the Timbit... Here comes a buy. It's just, you don't have to eat the whole thing. It's just one bite. Bye! Smart. Nice.

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