"Jude Law"

25:19Honestly, I was just happy. Someone else was picking up the bill. At that point, you were just happy, was it raining? I think I think I think you know you talk about Ethan first of all I do want to say this and we've had him on the show we're such fans I think he is such an unheralded artist and I don't usually use that word as much because sometimes it makes me cringe but he is such an artist that guy and he is and started you know young as we know he was a child actor we're talking about Ethan Hawke Ethan Hawke yeah sorry Tracy we're talking about Ethan Hawke he's one of those guys he could have if if he'd had more artistry jason could have been him but he he's one of those and i say that jason and i love what you do feels like a compliment no it is kind of look into it a little bit um no but pack that yeah he is no he is he's kind of like uh i i really do i i love a all his performances are so good and so raw and amazing and I love his approach and hearing him talk about art.

26:22And so when you told me that you learn a lot, I believe that. I believe that that relationship was inspiring. Generous too. Generous, yeah. That's another thing. Really generous on set, you know, and aware that he's got, he was working with someone who was pretty green. I mean, I'd only done a couple of films and I'm still a little bit like this, but, you know, just warm and yeah, he was, it was a very happy time. But here's the funny thing, you know, again, too young to realize that that doesn't mean the film's going to be a hit, right? So you're sitting there going, wow, I'm in Hollywood. It's really good.

26:58And it is. It's a great film. And the proof with that one is that people still refer to it. Thank you for what you said. I mean, and you're right, it holds up. Oh, my God. But at the time, it just sort of disappeared. And I kind of, you know, that was my first taste of, oh, you've got to keep trying. You've got to keep throwing the spaghetti at the wall until it sticks, right? But, and I think, yeah, you know, it's funny. You do have that, again, as a consumer of it and somebody who watched it and adored it, to me it was a hit in the sense that it worked and it was brilliant and all that kind of stuff.

27:32So I walked out of the theater with whomever and say, like, God, that was an incredible film and blah, blah, blah. So I sort of put it in that place that it's an incredible film. I don't know if the accountants... Funny that, right? It's funny how that happens. Yeah, the accounts at the studio. No, exactly. But it's funny how, you know, if it stays in your, I mean, it's not one of those we look back on and go, well, it worked at the time. But, you know, again, this is why it's such a shame in a way that films are judged on their, you know, opening weekend. Box office. Yes. You think, let's come back and re-review this in 10 years, five years, 10, 20 years.

28:04Well, that's one of the things I like about streaming, right? Like, there is no sort of scorecard. There's no sort of results. it's just it's up there and if you like it you tell somebody about it and then they they watch it they might like it and it's just people then experience it when they want how they want and i just i like that it's just on it on the merits there's no it's not qualified by and old catalogs get rediscovered again right yeah isn't that someone was saying that gray's anatomy is this yeah yeah it's suddenly being watched by everybody oh all these shows there's there's What's the show?

28:40The Suits. Yeah, yeah. Suits has had this thing where everybody's, people are like, oh, have you watched Suits? But I wonder what the algorithm or their thing says to, let's try Suits, let's try Grey's Anatomy, you know? Like, I wonder. It's interesting. You know, Jude. Sorry, Sean. No, you go, you go, you go, you go, you go. You know what? I'm going to go. I was just going to say this, which is, so you do Gattaca and you come out and it brings you out here and it kind of introduces and brings you to Hollywood. and then what was the gap you did that and then you did uh i want to say that you did well what the time between that and uh talented mr ripley yeah because those are both late 90s films that were really amazing impactful films yeah ripley raised ripley really raised my game because of nominations and and the other people in it there was a little bit of a there were a few you know tumbleweed moments between Gattaca and Ripley where because Gattaca hadn't been a financial hit, I did a couple of smaller parts, but still there's that thing of, you know, it's not consistent.

29:52And Ripley really was a leap for me. And then you were on the set with another gem, Matt Damon. I'll bet you had a great time with him too. Yeah, I mean, he could be a little, I mean. He's not bright, but. No, he's not bright. Matt's really not that bright. He's really hot and cold, let's be honest. And he blew it. He blew it at Wordle this morning. I busted two days ago. I bet you did too. I did not. Everybody else busted on that day, and I did not. I got a six. Wait, what was it again? Was it Radar or something like that? No, no, no, no. I'll tell you right now, because Bob texted me about it, and he was like, what did you get today?

30:28Have you tried Quirtle? Oh, don't get them started, Jude. I do Quirtle, Octurtle, and Wordle, all three, every morning with Matt and two other guys, every morning for three years. That's consistent. Every morning. Get back to your guest. So, get back to your guest. Wait, so you do a couple of tumbleweeds and then you do Ripley. Did you know Anthony Minghella before? No, he, I was working, I did this really odd little film with a director from Hong Kong and Anthony's wife was one of the producers on it. and he was watching the rushes for that while he was casting. I mean, I look back on that decision.

31:10That's the way that that works. I don't know how. I mean, I don't know what he saw. I mean, it's amazing. It's amazing. Saw some raw talent and somebody pretty easy on the eyes. Hell of a leap, though. Was his daughter Hannah around, the great Hannah Minghella? The great Hannah. Max, who's now a director, was like a little boy on set of that. He was, I think, when they were, say, 10. Was Hannah there, too? Hannah was around, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Right. In that way, now that was shot in some beautiful spots too, right? Yeah. I mean, I look, you know, on location all down the coast in Italy, we rehearsed at the famous Cina Citta studio in Rome, and then we shot in Rome.

31:50We shot in Ischia, which is this beautiful island off Naples. Near Capri. Near Capri. There's three, then Procida, and yeah, it was beautiful. Yeah, yeah. But you're down there. Sorry, I just want to say, because, oh God, this is so delicious to me. It's you. Sean, I think Will's falling as much in love with him as I am. I've been in love with him. I've been in love with Will. I've been in love with Jude since we had that dinner over at our buddy's house a few months ago. What a great dinner. Yeah. You were there too. I thought it was a table for two. We were all there. That was a great dinner.

32:24So it was you and Matt and Gwyneth Paltrow and Phil Hoffman. Phil Hoffman. The great Phil Hoffman, Kate Bunchet. I mean, and then Anthony Minghella directing, and you're in Italy, and my question is, when you do something like that, it's kind of like the Gattaca thing in a way, but it's different. Are you able to, in the moment, did you appreciate it? Did you have moments where you went like, man, this is really amazing, or not? Not as much as I wish I had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a bit of me looking back. But now you can, I'll bet. Well, yeah, I'm better at it, But there's, you know, in that, I kind of thought, well, this is what movies are like, you know, sitting on a beach and sailing a yacht and hanging out with all these cool young movie stars.

33:10And it was exceptionally special because of the, you know, the goodwill that Anthony had deservedly been given through the success of the English patient. And the people that he had assembled were, you know, pretty extraordinary group from the cast to all the crew. It was a great experience, and I wish I'd been a little better at just living in it and realizing how special it was. But the number of projects that you've done, speaking about your ability to assess whether you're on board a sinking ship or not, it's just the number of projects that you've done is just outstanding. And they're all like huge hits.

33:59Well, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people that have worked a lot, but it's just because they don't like home, and they'll just do whatever. Everything you've done has been incredible. You've certainly been incredible in it, some of, you know, out of your own power. JB, but also not just the volume, but how different a lot of them have been tonally. And also just like doing Shakespeare on Broadway and shit. I mean, like this guy, you don't know what you're dealing with with this guy. Jude, I remember like Jason just said, all these great things that you've done your whole life. And then I remember when Spy came out with Melissa McCarthy and I was like, is that Jude Law?

34:41Like it was the greatest left-hand turn ever. I was like, I've never seen Jude do something like this. It was so good. I was just mad about her. I just so wanted to work with her and witness. I think a lot of, honestly, I've been thinking about this recently about what kind of drives me. And a lot of it is curiosity. It's why I've kind of done different franchises too. I sort of, you know, I really, I'm a bit of a film nerd. Like I just love going to the movies and going to, you know, seeing stuff and having an opinion. But I'm also kind of dead curious about how do they do that? How's that done?

35:15And she was flying at that time. And her and Paul Fagin, that work that they were doing, I just wanted to witness it. I'll be honest, I did not feel I was in my comfort zone. Really? There's a scene opposite her. I suddenly realized very clearly, oh, you're the straight guy. Okay, this is fine. I can't play that. Because Paul's coming over and writing all these notes, going, try that, try this. And she's just firing off. I mean, I'm holding it together, just trying to keep a straight face, right? Yeah, yeah. Just don't lose it and really make a fool of yourself. But my goodness, the speed and the ideas.

35:50and then just, and like talk about going off, you know, on a tangent. You're sitting there thinking, what are you talking about? She's an absolute, she's an absolute comedy titan. I mean, Melissa McCarthy is great. And also, by the way, should we mention our good friend, my good friend, Jason, yours too, Pete Serafin, which is in that film as well. Yes. In spite, our lovely Pete. He's fantastic in that film. There's a scene where the two of them, I think, handcuffed together, right? And they're kind of lying on top. So it's a weird sort of sex-y make-out scene, kind of where you escape. God, he's good.

36:26He's so good. And by the way, a great Pete Serf story. Last year, I hadn't spoken to him in about 18 months, maybe almost two years. And we were quite good friends years ago. I mean, we still are. But we sort of hadn't talked to each other. And out of the blue, I texted him, so what else is going on? And after a night, I saw that it had been a couple years. And he answered almost immediately, that's about it

36:55so funny so Jude with all of the great incoming calls I'm sure you get how do you I'm sure you base your choices on many many things but is there one thing that is above all else will drag you towards a project is it the direct sorry I was just so resisting money well but I mean And look, you know, everyone needs it. Is it filmmaker? Is it role? Is it location? Is it money? Is it schedule? Is there one thing that is most important to you ever, or does it change? I kind of balance it up. You know, I love the idea of a challenge, a little bit like the role I play in The Order, which just felt like something completely new and different, and the opportunity to work with someone like Justin on that, who I knew I was in good hands, and he'd sort of take me there.

37:51He's the director. But, you know, those films, Justin Cazell, yeah. And he, that experience was a very good experience, you know, but you have to balance a film like that with, you know, then I was like, okay, now I need to pay my rent. So, you know, you've got to kind of find something that's going to balance that out. But also... Black Rabbit. I'm curious. God, he, fuck, Jay, what a shot in the nuts. He did your thing for the money. fuck dude you're in love with the guy you've had a great experience and he only did it for the fucking dough and while he was there he did a great job you're a paycheck to him keep going sorry i interrupted it's it's i mean you mentioned kind of all the the the boxes that you check right and all of them at a different time have a different uh uh order so sometimes yeah it's where are we filming this um who's in it who all of those things come to play family like we're bringing kids and all that kind of stuff is important yeah so i mean specifically over the last two years i've got a house that's being renovated and i'm having one of those nightmares uh and it's just going on and on and on so me and my wife and the two little ones i've just been like okay well let's just travel the world let's just go wherever i'm working so For like two years.

39:08For two years. So we really have. We've been in California. Then we were in Canada and then France and then Australia and then New York. So it's been wild. So it really has been just following the work. And the kids love it? And they're very little. They're both under five. So it's not like, you know, as long as we're both there looking calm and happy. They're calm and happy. Exactly. Exactly. Do you ever find, like, I always find that fascinating when you do have this schedule that you do. Do you miss a home base? Do you miss, like, a groundedness to come back to? I thought I would more, but I really haven't.

39:47And we've found some really beautiful homes around and some not so great, but mostly really good experiences. I'll tell you what I have found hard. I found it really hard going back to UK because without my house, like, I had this lovely home there for, you know, I've always lived there. but going there as a visitor and sort of renting something it just doesn't feel right it feels yeah it feels weird it's really disconcerting i was just there for a couple of weeks to see my family my my parents and um i don't know but equally i've learned i quite like being a foreigner quite like being a foreigner in a city it feels slightly less uh emotionally uh tiring i don't know why in the uk you know if i read the news about the uk and i'm like oh not again what are they doing you know i feel so emotionally it's like it's like your it's like your uncle letting you down you're like oh yeah don't behave like that yeah we don't have anything like that here you know whereas here here i'm like well it's not my problem yeah yeah that's nice when you go back and you're sitting with your parents at dinner is there ever a time to reflect and go back like we're doing now about hey remember when you guys kind of lit the fuse in me with with the theater and stuff like things have worked out and a little bit my mom's not so well she the light in my mom is is sorry or the spirit of my mom is slowly slowly fading um she's happy and she's she's not in pain but she's you know she's not who she she was very much the lightning in our family she was the kind of trailblazer she was the one putting on these plays and telling you know packing up our crazy little french de chevaux car and saying right we're gonna drive across france and camp and like she just was full of energy and really i think a big part of why i'm doing what i do my sister does what she does um so i don't i miss that with her i certainly have that with my my sister still and my dad uh and that's fun it's nice looking back at those it's interesting isn't it the further away you get from that formative time how you can reflect on what impact it was having on you and what direction it was sending you in.

41:57We'll be right back.

42:02And back to the show. And having done all the stuff that you've done and really proven any point you ever would have wanted to make or make people proud or yourself proud, I can't imagine that there's any box left unchecked, But you tell me, is there something, if it came your way, you go, ah, yeah, that I have not yet done or I've been avoiding. Is it a freaking musical? Is it a voice in an animated film? I mean, you've just touched so many things. There are definitely filmmakers out there that I admire immensely and would really love to work with. And there's the odd part. yeah but not not sort of i mean there are roles uh in in shakespeare that i'd love to play one day on stage but that that's sort of not not necessarily immediately but honestly something you and i talked about and something you're so good at encouraging i've seen you do it with others is is directing yeah i love i love the idea of it it scares the hell out of me you make it look incredibly straightforward and easy i don't know how you do that i mean watching you direct lead that team out of the gate and perform in it was really quite remarkable, man.

43:21And it kept making me think. Having a partner like you makes it easy, truly. It makes it, it made me really look at it and consider again. You should. It scares me because of the scale of the decisions. Is it one of those because you thought like, fuck, if this guy could do it, then anybody could? Exactly. I get that. That makes sense. Oh, it's not as scary. If this simpleton, if this, no, I talk a little bit about it because he is, and Jason is and we are so proud of him we love him dearly and we're so proud of what he's been able to do what it was like working with Jason as a director talk a little bit about that because we do talk about it we haven't had anybody on here really to talk about that experience yeah okay the mood first so talking to those who don't know talk about his explosion yeah the explosion this is the thing you know you guys will know the most important thing I think on a film set is the atmosphere right It's a massive team, all these different groups and skill sets doing all these different things, but they all want to be appreciated.

44:20They all want their time, and they all need their time. And Jason is just a master at keeping that going. I mean, the spirit of this company, I've got to tell you, cast, crew, everyone, was so positive. I mean, that was demonstrated at the end. We had a wonderful wrap party. Everybody's there with their family. Everyone stays from early doors to the close. I mean, it was so popular. Which is unusual. Yeah, it is unusual. And that was led by him. And the style of the piece was set up by Jason because it was his, how he saw it. And he, like I said, led us out of the gates. He directed the first two.

44:56And so setting that up and getting that right and sort of, what's the word? Ingraining it in the DNA of the piece. And then as an actor, right? And then he's also there as an actor playing opposite you, leading by example, but also there was the, you know, There are those moments where suddenly it's just those little tiny words of suggestion or little tiny nudges like, this is great, this is good, but should we go down this path? Should we try this? And it's those moments where you feel like, oh, this is so much fun. You're kind of playing. And even if you're doing a really dramatic scene, you're kind of giggling to yourself thinking like, oh, we're doing this.

45:35And our parents are out of town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're allowed to. We can keep going. Yeah, JB, do you have that a little bit of like, I can't believe I got the keys to the car here. Oh, every second of the day. All the toys. Right, yes, exactly. And it was also sort of like, you got to be such a smarty pants when you're directing and be sort of serious and you got to think about every corner of the room. But then this character I was playing was such a dingbat, like a lovely sort of like just simpleton. And so having to throw that switch in between like, okay, here we go, ready? Yeah, okay, let's roll.

46:08And then I was sort of joking. I told Jude, I said, you know, the sort of the, what do you call it? The fix or the secret to going into my character. All I have to do is just separate my jaw. Because this guy's kind of a mouth breather. Yeah, I go from director to this character by just separating my jaw. And we're ready to go. Here we go. Let's roll. That's really funny. Well, I will say, I will say before you'd actually direct it. You'd actually directed before, but I will say for our experience of working on Arrested Development, Jason was the ultimate team captain, and I also learned a lot about what it takes to be a captain.

46:48You should be doing it too. No, but what it takes to be a captain from that guy. It was potentially the only thing I learned because he has nothing else to teach him. I can get you to 10. You can count to 10 if I can teach you.

47:04What's your impression, Jude? just a quickly thin slice of Sean. Take a look at him over there. I look like a thin slice. Thin slice take. Of white bread. I mean, be honest. Be brutally honest. I like the idea. I am going to join Sean in that bubble. I think I like the idea of being pushed around. Just zip him in. Yeah. He's just trying to keep his powder dry for the Star Wars section of the interview, which we can start now, Sean, if you're all set and ready to go. But I have one question before. I am ready to go on that. But one question before. Scotty slides in on a chair like Saturday Night Live.

47:37Just like this. We're just saying stuff. No, Jude, you know, we touched on it before a little bit. I want to go back just for a second. That kind of, that time when you're sitting between jobs and you're like, God, is something going to come? And the uncertainty of what we do. When you were younger and you went through those, did you have other jobs? Is there a time where you're like, God, I should start thinking of something else to do with my life because I don't think anything's going to come. And then Talented Mr. Ripley comes or whatever it is. Fortunately not. And I lived a pretty simple life early on.

48:08And then I became a father pretty young. And that would be all consuming. So that I was always, I mean, there was always something to do. So fatherhood didn't scare you into thinking about another occupation? Well, luckily, it was never that. It was never so much that I suddenly thought, and if it was then i was usually saved by uh uh the life support of another job or a potential but i realized in the last couple of years it's been a really big shift for me with with my company because suddenly even if you know they're not coming to fruition although we've we've had a pretty good run so in the last couple of years just having the sense that you kind of got your you got your hands on the reins and you can develop stuff and you're communicating with writers and directors and this is riffraff with the great ben jackson great ben jackson who's been uh alongside me for like 22 years and and and the company has given me a much better sense of navigating those those moments of thinking because because ultimately you're still an actor right waiting for someone to think you're right for a part right but if you can cook your own food you know it's that's a real privileged place to be and and you don't take it lightly and and uh You work really, really hard as a producer, as does he.

49:23Yeah, I love it. I like the process of, I love finding ideas. I love introducing writers to directors and seeing that kind of blossom and bloom. It's a side, I love it. That's the way it happened with Order, right? Didn't you contact Justin Curzel for this? That's right, that's right. What was that conversation like? Did you know him before? No, not at all. You were just a fan of... A massive fan. And you know when you suddenly, someone, and it's never me, I'm really good at chiming and having an opinion, but I'm never someone, I'm never very good with a blank page. You know, when people go, okay, let's discuss the directors.

49:57I always go, uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, you can't be, I want to be the smart one who goes, I've got a left to field idea. I'm always like, you go first. And then I'm really strong to go, no, no, no, not them, not them, not them. Yeah, yeah. But someone mentioned Justin, I think it was Zach, or it could have been Brian. Zach Balin. Zach Balin, our wonderful writer, who we worked together on Black Rabbit. And it just was one of those, oh, yes, this is a perfect fit. This guy looks at really dark areas and kind of toxic people, but puts them in a world where you start, it's not about empathizing with them, but you understand them, and he makes it kind of safe that you go into their worlds.

50:40And then he also operates on this high energy. He's a big guy, and he loves capturing the energy of scenes and drama and he was just the perfect fit. So yeah, we had, we Zoomed with him. He was in his house in Tasmania with his big beard and it looked literally like his hair all blown. It looked like he'd just come off a, you know, hauled in a whale and kind of come in and sat there like this and just blew us away with his insight. Yeah, I think I could do this. Yeah, and then when we were looking to get a director for the finale of Black Rabbit, But Zach and Jude and Zach's partner, Kate, they suggested Justin Krizelle.

51:21And I was like, are you fucking kidding? We're not going to get Justin Krizelle to direct the finale of this thing? And they're like, no, no, no, we can ask him. What do you mean? How do you know him? Well, we just finished a movie with him. Come on. You guys just did a movie? So I had no idea that they had just worked with Justin. And thank God it went well because they reached out and asked him. He answered the phone. They said, yeah. And was the reaction from the crew when he came to, was there like, now we got a director on set? Now we can get going. Exactly. I saw that. We just seed that up.

51:52I know, I know, I know. But by the way, if I don't do it, if I didn't say that, Jason would call me after and say, are you okay? Like, are you sick? Yeah, you were a little slow there. You were slow. A little after the weather. Let's talk about Star Wars. Yes, Andor, Acolyte. Where does Star Wars skeleton crew come in the line? I mean, it's absolutely standalone. Oh, it is. I like that. Yeah. I mean, it fits in, I think it's around the same time as The Mandalorian. But here's what got me. You know, I was six, seven when the first film came out. And I was thinking about this the other day. I mean, I don't remember going, I maybe saw The Rescuers or 101 Dalmatians.

52:35Yeah, totally. And then Star Wars. So to me, that was cinema. I was like, holy cow. What the hell is this? And not only that, for the next five years, it was what I played. I was living it. I was running around my yard going, pew, pew, right, I'm Han. You know, I'm Vader. Still am. Yeah. And, you know, so it was formative. And John Watts just had this awesome idea. he called me and said, so look, you know, what if we, all that awe and wonder and dazzle that we had as kids, what if we put the kids in that world? So it's taking goonies, it's taking normal kids, you kind of argue, and they don't get on with their parents, or they don't get on with each other, or they don't like school, they run away, they get lost, and they're in that world.

53:25Yeah, that's cool, that's cool, that's really cool. And I was just like, this is a great idea. I love that. Have you enjoyed that style of work with the volume stages, the green screen? It was all volume, luckily, yeah. I mean, I think had it been all green, I don't know that I would have enjoyed it as much. I've done that before. The volume is really wonderful. Yeah? Really? For Tracy, this is a stage that's basically every wall is like a big movie screen. With high definition. Yeah, you're living in an atmosphere. So they put the flooring in. So say you're on a moon, the floor is dust and sand and rocks and boulders, but it goes right up to the volume screen, and then the perspective of the screen just carries on.

54:08So you can be standing in a desert that disappears for hundreds of miles with ships flying around you, and with a wind blowing, right? They use a wind machine. So you're on, for all intents and purposes, you're on that moon. And so it's not just for the viewer, too. As an actor, when you're performing, you're actually seeing that. You're experiencing that as well. Yeah, that's really cool. And the same goes for then a more cluttered set, like a market. We did this huge spaceport and they built all the, you know, the bars and the stalls and what have you. And each avenue looks like it just goes on and on and on and on.

54:43And you've got creatures crossing over. And, of course, what you've really only got is, let's say, 50 foot of that. And then the rest is just all on these huge screens. Yeah, that's really cool. That's so many. I want to go back to a question. You could do one where you could have your dad like he's there. you want to be on the screen. I don't think there's screens. And you can have it so that he's not leaving. He's staying. He's there. You can just click the screen on pause. He's not leaving your family. Wait, before we get out of the skeleton crew world to talk about who else is in that with you?

55:12Because I think I read somebody that I know is in that with you. Who else is in it? Kerry Condon and Tunde from TV on the radio. And then there are the four kids. Do you know Tunde? He's a lovely guy. I met him a couple times. He's really cool. I'm a big fan of TV on the radio. Yeah, me too. And his interesting piece of trivia. He was great in Rachel Got Married. Remember he was in that? That's right. That's right. Demi. Demi film. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Did they play all the music live in that? I think they did. Did they really? In real time. I think that was the idea on that film. Because remember, they're in a band and they're all playing at the wedding.

55:50I love the way that film looked. Do you remember the color of that film? Yeah. Is it Ted Demme or Jonathan Demme? Oh, good question. Jonathan. Jude, when you name all those... Nick Frost. Is Nick Frost in it? Nick Frost is the voice of a droid. Oh, I love Nick Frost. Nick Frost is one of my favorites. Sorry, Sean. He's one of my favorites of all time. I love Nick. He's so fucking... Me too. We all know. He's so fucking funny. Yeah, he is funny. When you were going, Jude, when you were talking about going from city to city to, you know, in the last few years, just going, all those cities you named.

56:25Is it hard to keep a schedule for eating properly, working out, taking care of yourself with the time differences and then living in a trailer and then coming back to a hotel? It seems like so, to me, it seems so disruptive. But a gorgeous life because we're all doing what we love to do. But how do you maintain a good schedule for yourself? Allow a lot of time when I land somewhere to get over jet lag. I'm not one of those people who can just pick straight up and get it. I'm like, give me a couple of days. Because I think jet lag really is like an illness. You've got to kind of love yourself a bit and go.

57:00It's like you've got flu. Just go to bed, you know. But you've also then, yeah, once you're out of that, I enjoy, I really like keeping fit. So I train quite hard every day, usually before I go to work. So whatever that time is, I usually go do something for an hour. And then I usually take my own food. So I can eat when I really want. I can't be doing on a set where they're like, lunch, and you're like, it's 5 p.m. Right. What was I meant? I got to eat at the right time. Right, right. So I eat, like I get up and I eat in the morning. I make sure I've got food so when it's midday or one, I eat my lunch.

57:37Yeah. Are you particular about your food? Do you eat quite healthily, et cetera? Yeah. I'll eat anything, but I kind of get, I can feel myself getting a bit slower and stodgier if I don't eat well. Yeah. But I'm not, I am kind of got a funny relationship. Like I really love a good restaurant. I love good food. But equally, it's just fuel. You know what I mean? I like lamb. You like lamb? I love lamb. Lamb chops? Yes. Hang on a second. I love lamb chops. Hey man, we're not doing non sequiturs at a left field right now. I love lamb. You know what? I had lamb last night. I want lamb chops. I had lamb last night.

58:19Wait, they're at the house or did you go to a restaurant, Willie? No, I had lamb at home here, yeah. And you know what I was really upset about? Was it a lamb shank? It was, they were lamb chops and I didn't have any, somehow there was no mint jelly or mint sauce. Oh, you see, my wife loves the mint jelly. I'm not fussed about it. As long as there's a little, as long as it's got a little seasoning on it. Yeah. I just, I really need it. You know, Jude, we, honestly, I don't know about you guys. I mean, we could just keep this going forever, probably, if you wanted to. I told you. I know. Jason you were so right we're going to save this for the wrap up but he is something else Jude what an absolute delight we have kept you away for me too I'm so happy you did this we'll do it again when Black Rabbit comes on in about a year and I just I'm crazy about you, love you I'm going to talk to you I'm actually going to call you right after the end of this because I need to ask a question about something but thank you buddy for doing this enjoy the rest of your press trip stay rested and get back to the family and enjoy the winter.

59:23It's what a joy. And so lovely to see the three of you. This has been a joy. Yeah, it's good to see you, Jude. Great luck with The Order. Everybody, go see The Order. It's so damn good. Go see anything that Jude's in. Go see it. Go see it. Go watch it. Go stream it. Go see it. Jude, you are a gentleman. Thank you, sir. Take care. Take care, buddy. Goodbye. Bye. Do I do that? He did it. He did it. he's fantastic so guys I'm telling you this guy if you think he's great on a podcast or a Zoom call try going in the trenches with him for eight months you always talked about how much joy you had with him you really did and you and you and it was unsolicit like you would just be like God that's your law while you were making it from every stage you're like God this guy is great God you know blah blah blah like you were just and you meant it yeah Yeah, he's one of the best partners ever.

1:00:19I'll tell you, one of the other ones was a guy we mentioned was Matt Damon. Did that little bit on air. And I mean, like, just the level of experience and professionalism with these guys is just not to be undervalued. Also, it probably comes from gratitude, too. Like, we all know what it's like not to work. And then when you get, you know, when you're lucky enough to be in that position. Yeah, they definitely appreciate where they're at. J.B., have you ever seen that, Gattaca? I did, but I don't remember it, which is not uncommon. Sean, you've seen it, right? I can't believe I've never seen it.

1:00:52Sean? I know. I'm going to watch it. I really urge people, and again, I don't want to, I've waxed on a lot, but that film is really a remarkable film. It's really good. And Jude is so, it's hard to imagine that it's one of the first things he did because he's so excellent in it. You know, he's one of those actors, never sucks. Never, ever. You're exactly right, J.B. He's in the John Goodman school. He never, ever sucks. Ever. Actors who know kind of what their goalposts are and have the discipline to not, you know, or the overindulgence to step outside of that. Like he finds a version of himself in every character that he does and yet he never plays anything safe.

1:01:32So, you know, it's just... Pretty cool. Thank you for bringing him on. Yeah, I was so happy to be able to have him because obviously he should have been your guest, but I was happy to... We'll get him next year. Well, I wanted him a long time ago before you guys started working together. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So I wanted him a long time ago, and then it just sort of, this is when it happened. I'm glad that we made it through the entire interview without talking about fucking Robert Downey. You know what I mean? Oh, that guy. About Sherlock. Because Downey has gotten so much fucking free air.

1:02:05I'm so mad at Downey. What? Because why? Just in general, just because. Just success? The success? His success. And I know he's very deserving of it, blah, blah. But I'm just kind of, you know. Let's have a counterpoint. Where do you think he's over-indexing? Opinions. Yeah.

1:02:31He's, he'll just, he'll call me, you want to talk about FaceTime, you always have, he faced, Downey FaceTimes in a way like it's so out of the blue. Uninvited FaceTimes. And then he's in the bath. And he'll go, you know, I was thinking, what you should do. And I'm like, fucking what, man? Towel off and just call me or write me. I do love him. I do love him to death, though, I will say. He's doing a big play. Go see his play. Go see McNeil with our good friend Robert Downey. I think it's probably closed by now. What depends when this airs? Oh, yeah. It depends on when it airs. Lincoln Center. But I tell you what never closes is Jude Law's Talent.

1:03:06Oh, so good. That is open. It's always open. Always open. 24-7. Think about, Jay, you said, and Sean, you named it like think about all the different films that he's when I was thinking about but you're not even touching his theater I know this guy has been on Broadway with like Othello or Hamlet or Macbeth or probably all three of them I think he got a Tony nomination for one of those or maybe one I mean he's just done yeah we didn't mention we did not mention the the Sherlock Holmes films which were major major major hits Road to Perdition you ever seen that incredible yeah so good I love the movie Cold Mountain, he got an Academy Award nomination for That Was Amazing.

1:03:46AI, he was in that film AI. Yeah, I love that. Like 20 years ago. Yeah. Enemy at the Gates, you ever seen that film? Enemy at the Gates where he plays, I think he plays like a sniper in Stalingrad. Is that the one? Oh, wow, really? No, I haven't seen that one. Oh, dude. I'm up for all the same parts all the time. Three callbacks. You've been up for them. Yeah. The animated version of each of these. No, real snipers. Really? Yeah, Sniper City. One's called Sniper City. The other one's called Sniper City. There's one another one's called Sniper. I didn't even know her. Wow. Yeah. You know what? I haven't heard of it.

1:04:23I wonder who all of those were written. Those are out now. I wonder who they were written. Those were written by. By. Jason doesn't even say it. Say bye, Jason. Bye. Smart. Nice.

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