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SmartLess Podcast Episode Notes: "Kirsten Dunst"
Episode Overview In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome actress Kirsten Dunst. The conversation dives into various topics including her career highlights, motherhood, and humorous anecdotes from their lives.
Key Themes and Topics Discussed
Introduction and Banter
- The episode starts with light-hearted banter among the three hosts about who wears glasses and introducing Sean Hayes back after a hiatus.
- They share humorous personal experiences related to travel and weight loss.
Reintroduction of Sean's Dog
- A comedic exchange about Sean's dog returning home after three months.
- The discussion touches on the anxiety around reuniting with pets.
Announcement of Guest
- Jason builds suspense before revealing Kirsten Dunst as the mystery guest.
- Kirsten’s impressive career is mentioned, including her early Golden Globe nomination at age 12 and notable films like *Interview with a Vampire*.
Kirsten Dunst's Career Reflections
- Impact of Early Success: Kirsten reflects on her early success and the pressure it brought, especially during her childhood auditions.
- Auditioning Experience: She discusses the challenges of auditioning and her feelings of excitement and nerves during that process, particularly for her recent projects.
- Career Highlights: Kirsten mentions her experiences working on films, such as *Melancholia* and her recent projects.
Personal Life and Motherhood
- Kirsten shares insights into her life as a mother of two boys and the juggling act of parenting with her career.
- She humorously describes her parenting style and the challenges of single parenting when her husband, Jesse Plemons, is away.
Insights into Upcoming Projects
- Roofman: Kirsten discusses her role in the film *Roofman*, which is based on a true story about a man living inside a Toys “R” Us.
- Entertainment System is Down: She also mentions her upcoming film which revolves around human interaction in a doomsday scenario on a plane.
Fun Anecdotes and Rapid Fire Questions
- The hosts engage in playful conversations about junk food preferences, with Kirsten revealing her love for In-N-Out burgers.
- Dunst reminisces about her role in *Bring It On*, sharing how she continues to enjoy cheerleading-related activities with her kids.
Closing Thoughts
- The episode wraps up with a discussion about the current state of the film industry, particularly the lack of big comedies, and the potential for a resurgence in light-hearted films.
- The chemistry among the hosts and Kirsten shines through, creating an engaging and entertaining listening experience.
Key Takeaways
- Kirsten Dunst is a versatile actress who reflects on her career with a mix of humor and humility.
- The dynamic between the hosts creates an enjoyable atmosphere filled with laughter and genuine conversation.
- The episode highlights the balance of professional success with personal growth, particularly in the realm of motherhood.
Conclusion This episode of SmartLess not only showcases Kirsten Dunst's remarkable career but also highlights her relatable experiences as a mother and her insights into the film industry. The blend of humor and heartfelt discussion makes for a captivating listen.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Jason, Will, and I mean, Will, Jason and I are the only two people in glasses. You usually wear glasses? That was like a billing situation. You said Jason and Will. No, no, no, sorry. I mean, Will and Jason. No, I said... Will called you and said, listen, next time you mention my name along with Jason, you mention my name first. And you also say, and introducing Will. And introducing with the... I prefer the... You want to say Will and Jason and introducing Will? Yes. No, say, yeah. You're saying that you're the only two in glasses. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, don't you... You usually wear glasses.
0:34I do. I wear my reading glasses, but I'm far back enough now from my screen that I don't, so I look younger than you guys. Well, you know, you don't need to see Will today very well because he's doing an audio show called Smartless. Smartless. And welcome to it. Smartless.
0:57Smartless.
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1:07Let's hang on a second. Yeah? Sean Hayes is back in town. Is back in town. Yeah. No, you can't applaud for yourself. Don't start the applause, Sean. We'll start it. Okay, there you go. And then you can join it. You know, just... So happy to have him back. By the way, I have to tell you something. So happy. I would go... I went out the stage door after a couple of shows. No, after one show. And people were doing that bit. They're like, bravo! No, in England. In England, yeah. You guys. The bits travel sometimes. People are listening. But I just got back last night, and I swear to God, I weighed about 179, 180 when I left.
1:48I weighed 165. 165 pounds. So you lost 15 pounds while you were in... Well, if you lost it and you're looking for it, I can tell you where to find it. How long will it take to get it back? I swear to God, for breakfast, I just had a bowl of pasta and two pieces of cake because it was Scotty's birthday yesterday. He got a big race tomorrow or something? Wait, wait, wait. It's 9.30 in the morning right now. And you've already had a bowl of pasta and two pieces of cake. His belly is saying, feed me, it's dinner time. That's right. That's exactly right. Yeah. But yeah, no, I got back yesterday at like one in the afternoon and I went to bed at 8 p.m.
2:29And I got up at 1 a.m. and then went back to bed. I got up at 7. So I slept like 12 hours. Yeah, you needed it. It's crazy, yeah. You needed it. Did you have to clean the CPAP machine in between? You're still on that, are you not? No, I lost the weight, so I don't need it. Do I truly? Truly? It was the weight that was... Well, it's a combination of things. I try not to sleep on my back, too, but yeah. Okay. And do you have like nails on your back or something so that if you roll on your back, it pokes you away? Yeah, yeah. That would be good. Strap on some sort of like a nail bed. Well, people used to do that.
3:04They'd put like a tennis ball. They'd wrap like a tennis ball on their backs. No, they didn't. What are you talking about? What do you mean, did they? Look it up. Oh, redo the research. What do you mean, wrap it? Wait, keep going. Do the research. I love research. Tennis ball. People go, I did the research. I did the research. What do you mean? Oh, you have access to Google? Yeah. Wait, what website told you that people used to strap a tennis ball to the smaller back? I read that a long time ago. Wait, to do what? To do what? I don't understand. Somehow, like, put a tennis ball on the, I forget how they do it, like, in their shirt or whatever.
3:35And it prevents you from... So that if they roll onto their back, it's uncomfortable, and then they want to roll back. Or it's gentle. They do it with, like, duct tape or something like that? Or, like, a tensor bandage or something. I don't know. Don't say fucking tensor ever again. You know I think... Your dumb lips. Tenser. Tenser. Stupid. Stop looking at my lips. Professional grief. I was doing it this morning. Were you? Yeah. We are professional grade. The river doesn't damn itself. This country wasn't built in a day. Not a week either. You do Santa Claus too, Will, right? You play Santa Claus?
4:11No, it's Batman. Oh, Batman. You know what? Batman, Santa Claus. Hey, Sean, we got to get you a nice campaign. What would you like to sling commercials for? Yeah. Call it right now. Is cake a thing? Yeah. General cake spot? All cake products. The cake makers of America.
4:32Yeah. Sean, would you like to go to a cake convention? Would that seem like where you're from? Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't that be great? How was the reintroduction to your dog? Did he give you any attitude? He comes back today in about three or four hours. Still haven't seen him. How long has it been? Three months. Wow. Yeah. Do you think he's going to give you a little bit of a hairy eyeball? He. Like, welcome back. Side eye. No, he will. Will he poop in the bed? No. He will. I'll do that. No, he'll Oh, Sean Still? Welcome home No, he'll go Wow, it's you And then run And just play And want a treat Sounds like Scotty Listen, Sean We're so happy to have you back in the fold We missed you the other night We talked about you all the time I know We're so excited Are we all hanging out this Sunday?
5:20Yeah What if you guys are like Sorry, that was it Last Sunday was it We are Sunday But in the meantime Hollywood Bowl Oh Well, by the way, sorry we are going to the Hollywood Bowl we are going to the Hollywood Bowl November 15th November 15th Hollywood Bowl we got a couple of guests we got a couple of great things going on I got a super big guest Will you better bring the noise on your guest yeah I'm gonna bring the noise it's gonna be a lot of fun we're also gonna have some special guests as well it's gonna be a lot of fun and special guests sprinkled around oh yeah we're gonna have we're gonna have a lot we're gonna have a lot am I gonna be told about the special guests yeah you've already been told we've talked about it before but I mean you just don't listen but anyway tell me your name one more time Oh, God.
6:00I'm sorry. Unless I put it in the context of golf, he doesn't hear it. Jason, we already talked about it. We did. Yeah, I know. We already talked about it. Okay. We're going to welcome our guest. Is this someone that's going to make me nervous? It's really... Well, I... I get nervous about the secret guest stuff. You know this person and you're going to be nervous about it because she's a super wattage megatel. But I've had the pleasure of meeting this person a few times and I'm always a little starstruck, I got to admit. You only meet someone once. She was nominated for her first Golden Globe when she was 12.
6:29Shut up. Yeah, and has kept it going ever since. She's been in countless fantastic movies. Once you start naming them, it's like, forget it. I think I know who this is. I don't think you do know who this is. It's not Jodie Foster. She's been in, I don't even know, I can't even, but her first nomination was for Interview with a Vampire. Shirley Temple. Kirsten Dunst, I just guessed it was Kirsten Dunst. Jill Manji dropped a gorgeous Spider-Man movie, Civil War last year, and Roof Man, October 10th. This is Kirsten Dunst. Reveal yourself. Hey. Hey. I fucking guessed it. By the way, that's the first time I think I ever got it right.
7:02By the way, Academy Award nominee. You didn't even let me get to that. Sorry, sorry. You robbed her. You robbed her of that. Hi, Kirsten Dunst. Hi, I'm so happy to be on this show. Does anyone call you KD? Yes. Really? Yes. I'm a lot of names. Well, listen here, KD. Yeah, what? You're never going to work for the government because, so I'm in Toronto. Yeah. And I'm walking by her table, you guys. And up she pops, hey, I'm about to be on your show. I'm like, hey. Is that right? That's supposed to be a secret. So your government job is done. That's amazing. But I was like, okay, I'll play like a big surprise.
7:38But you never know. You didn't know. But you didn't know when. You never know when. You never know when it's going to happen. That's the good news. And you guys were up at TIFF because you were up there promoting Black Rabbit. And Kirsten, you were up there promoting Roofman, which I'm really excited. And I saw Roofman the following day, and it was killer. I hear it's amazing. That movie's freaking awesome. I can't wait to see that movie. It's so good. It's like a perfect Christmas movie. I love it. Love it, love it, love it. I can't wait to see it. And we're all very excited for it. And we're really excited that you're here.
8:07It feels like finally a little bit. Couldn't make a deal. Where are you? Where is this? I'm in Toluca Lake. Nice. Oh, wow. You're just up there. Will and I are about to shank a couple of balls in your backyard in a couple hours. We are about to be there in a couple hours. There's probably a better way to say that. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry. We'll scrub it. So you were supposed to be on here a couple years ago for Civil War, and I forget what happened. It was a schedule thing, blah, blah, blah. One of you were sick. Yeah, JB, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure, JB. Always battling. Wait, you were so great in that movie.
8:40That movie was really cool. I know. I love Civil War. It was so good. I know. I need to see that. I'm scared to see that. I feel like it's probably super good, super accurate. It's like the same reason. You know that movie United 93 that Paul Greengrass? Yeah. Okay, sure. I'll never see that because what I hear is that it's just too good. It puts you on a plane that's plummeting from the sky for two and a half minutes. I did that movie that's coming out next year on a plane. No. What is it called? Really? The Entertainment System is Down. Oh, yes. Wait, what? What is that about? What is the name of it?
9:13That's the guy who did Triangle of Sadness. Yes, and Force Majeure. Ruben Oslund, his name is. Ruben Oslund. You were in a Ruben Oslund film? Yeah, that's like, that was, yeah. You and your hubby are just in about every great movie you ever want to be in. I know, I know. And your husband, Jesse Plymouth, who's also a wonderful guy. I had the pleasure of meeting both of you last year or something. Just sweet, sweet, super talent. And so you did that movie, The Entertainment System is Down, which I've just read about, which looks awesome. What is that? Like satellites go out or something? Well, what is that?
9:50I sound less perturbed about it. No, no, I want to know because it sounds cool. What, is it like the satellites down or something? Do I still get emails and stuff like that? Can I still do Candy Crush? Does Candy Crush work? By the way, that's real. That's all I do. Wait, I know we're talking about some other movie, but tell me what that one's about just like briefly because I love sci-fi stuff or whatever. It's not sci-fi. Oh, yeah, but I mean like doomsday stuff? Well, it's human doomsday, basically, on a plane. Yeah, it's human doomsday. So it's called the entertainment system is down because there's no Wi-Fi, there's nothing.
10:30Right, right. So you have to deal with each other. Okay, that's what I want to say. Sean, it's like, you know, like the bar, you know the bar on Tatooine in Star Wars? Oh, got it. I'm on board. I'm on board. Okay, sorry. I just wanted to put it into context so you could understand. So, Kyrus, walk us through a little bit But I mentioned that you got your first big award nomination. It was for Golden Globe when you were 12 years old. How trippy was that? I mean, for a 12-year-old. I don't think I really realized, like, you know what? I was working on Jumanji and everyone's like, you're going to win.
11:09You're going to win. And so don't tell a little girl that because I didn't win. and then I was crying on, Jane Seymour was next to me like for Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and I was just like crying under the table pretty much. At the table on NBC and everyone's all banged up on champagne and there's a little girl there looking for someone to hold. Wow. Did you have a speech all lined up and everything? I don't remember if I did, but. But hey, better to kind of learn that at a young age that, you know, you can't trust the outcome of stuff, you know, and later. Yeah, I was going to say, did it help kind of right-size all of that stuff eventually?
11:55You know, it's like award stuff doesn't, like, you know, we all know, like, the good stuff we all love usually doesn't get nominated or doesn't win. It's like, so really all you have is the experience of making it. That's all you have. Right. It's so odd, isn't it? You're not... The competition of it all, no one's playing the same character. It's like, you know, 100-yard dash, everyone's going the same distance. Who gets there quicker? It's pretty clear. I had to audition for the movie on the plane for the entertainment system is down. Oh, you did? Yes. Really? That feeling, I hadn't been that excited to get a role since Interview with the Vampire.
12:38Wow. So like to me, auditioning and getting something is like, that is crazy. That's the win. When was the last time you auditioned before the Ruben Oslin thing? I auditioned for this movie with Jeff Nichols, the director Jeff Nichols called Midnight Special. The great Jeff Nichols. That was a great movie, Midnight Special. Yeah. Love that movie. So, but wait, so that was like 10 years ago. Yeah, it had been a minute. At least. I don't think, yeah. That was the last time I auditioned. Oh my God, were you nervous auditioning again? I would be terrified. I did a self-tape. Which is easier. All by myself.
13:09Yeah, it is easier. The new world. It was all improv. He gave me an improv. And yeah, I just, you know, put my iPhone. I just taped it on my iPhone and pretended. Yeah, and if you sucked, you just get to do it again. Yeah, I did two takes. I felt, I was like, and I didn't watch it. And I just sent it. Did you ask Jesse to look at it? No, he was away. So no one was there. So you were just all by yourself. Yeah. No way. And so what do you think he was looking for? Do you mind saying what the improv was? No, not at all. My improv was two people are sitting bored next to each other on a plane. He's asleep with our son.
13:52And I am bored and look at his phone. And I discover that he's been cheating on me. So it's like, you know, hanging out on the plane, bored, do the whole like face recognition thing right and wait not so that's all your your that's all your idea yeah yeah no no this is all he wanted me to do this vibe basically the director and so then I see a memory comes up on the iPhone that is like to Cotton Eye Joe that song and it's supposed to be like him cheating with a bunch of people where did you come from where did you go exactly You sure? So then I see that he's been cheating on me, and I wake him up.
14:36But at first, I have to go through, you know, all the emotions and shit. And since there was no one else in the improv with you, as soon as you wake him up and you start to confront him, it's over. It's over. I was like, you need to wake up. And then I just got pissed, and I got up and shut off my phone. Oh, I love it. That's crazy. I mean, it's wild to do a self-tape of an improv by yourself. I know. Yeah. That's so weird. I did put Jesse's camera like that because he's always shooting film of our family. So I put his camera nearby. So I had like a, I don't know, a symbol. This is real actor-y right now.
15:11Of him, of something. Yeah. How long have you guys been married? Oh, God. I don't even know. We've been together for about 10 years. We got married after kids. Yeah. Three years, maybe? Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah. That's great. Wait, talk a little bit about, so doing that audition for that movie by yourself, the nightmare self-tape improv, which is bizarre. But it probably been a minute since, you said you auditioned for another film, but how different was when you first started auditioning when you were a kid, basically? Yeah, yeah. And JB, you had that experience too, auditioning a lot when you were a kid, right?
15:51Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what that process was like back then, what it meant to you back then, Did you feel, were the stakes high? Or was it just kind of like, after school, go do it, and then go do your thing? Yeah, what is that like? Did you put a big thing on it? What do you think, Kirsten? I did. I did because, well, like, okay, we were at the Oakwood Apartments. Oh, my God. And I was going to normal schools. Well, for my sister, for Tracy, Oakwood Apartments is a complex where a lot of actors would stay while they're at. Because you can rent it monthly. that can come out for pilot season. I'd come out for pilot season a bunch of years in a row and stayed there.
16:29Same. Yeah. Oh, same. Where were you coming from? I'm from New Jersey. Okay. Yeah. All right. You guys could have carpool. Yeah, so we would come out, yeah. We'd probably carpool. Remember you used to have that sign when you left to the back, the one on Barham, right? Yeah, yeah. So, and the back gate one had, as you were waiting for the gate to open, there was a little sign on the gate as it moved that said, Smile at Showtime. Oh, God, I don't remember. And I remember thinking like, how soon do you want me to take my own life?
16:57So depressing. Not getting any jobs. Go get them. Oh, God. Anyway. Anyway, so you come out. So you're at Oakwood. You're at Oakwood with your. I'm at Oakwood. My mom, my brother, and my grandma. Wow. But I would go to normal school. I went to Laurel Hall in the Valley. Sure. Where I met my best friend. So I had like a normal-ish life because I never was home tutored or anything. Yeah. But yeah, auditioning was, when it was a big role, like I remember this, it was like I auditioned for Interview with the Vampire, auditioned for The Secret Garden, and I didn't get The Secret Garden. And I remember sobbing about that.
17:35Wow. But now, but was it, did it get more stressful as you got older? No, because I think because I got success from Interview, I didn't have to audition for a long time. Like I auditioned for Little Women, but it wasn't frequent enough to traumatize me. I auditioned for Spider-Man was the big next one that I auditioned for. Uh-huh. Did you get it? I did.
18:02Sean, he's jet lagged. Forget it. He's just cheeky. Even though he's not in England anymore, he's still cheeky. JB, did you ever, did you ever, I mean this honestly, did you ever sob or have that thing, that pressure? I remember you talking about the pressure of getting a job because it was the family business. I never cried. But what was worse was that I'd be so paralyzed with fear on the way to auditions when I got to be in my 20s because I literally needed the employment. It wasn't just like fun when I was like a little kid and I get to skip school and all that stuff. And then it became like, you know, well, this is my occupation.
18:41Did you support your family, Jason? I contributed for sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Did you, Kirsten? I didn't have to. It started out as like, ah, fun, college money, whatever. And then my parents got divorced. And then it was a little like, well, you're making the most money. So my mom lives in my back house, okay? Aw, that's sweet. Yeah, I'm a good daughter. That's good. That is sweet. Very good. I love that. Very, very cute. it. We'll be right back.
19:15And now back to the show. All right. So you're in Toluca Lake. What's going on? Is Jesse in town or are you, you guys must take turns single parenting. I was going to get into that. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah. It's so hard. I had a real moment last night. I just went to my friend's house. I was like, I can't parent alone tonight. I just can't just leave a bunch of milk and crackers out. Well, I took them with me. Oh, gotcha. No, no, no. I just brought them all. Jamie, what do you think she's doing over there, man? That's how I grew up. Wait, how many kids and how old? I have two boys, but like literally I'm getting ready for this and I get this sign.
19:54I need you. Him sad. Me with the door shut. Oh, look at that drawing. That's so funny. Sean's dog drew a similar picture. Wait, did he make that? So, listener, this is a picture of Kirsten inside one room with the door closed and then her son on the outside. Upset. Upset. And so did he slide that under the door? Yes. No. Mommy, come out. Yeah. No. And I let them sleep in bed with me when Jesse's not here. I am like, actually, you know who we watch, Will, is the Lego Masters show. Nice. I'll put you right out, right? Yeah, no, I use Jesse.
20:39That's like, yeah. It's like a sugar crash. It's fun. It's calming. It's a fun thing to watch with kids, isn't it? It's a very fun family show. It is. So are you guys always, so one of you is pretty much, is it safe to say, always working, and that's why you have to just, or do you have like a schedule? No, we had the summer together. It's like whoever's up next, like whatever happens, like we're still trying to figure it out, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's really hard. It's really hard. So, yeah. They're four and seven, and they're two boys. It's a lot. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah, I've been there, been there and done that.
21:18Have you thought about, and you can shut us up anytime we're getting too personal. Have you thought about the - Shut up. Sort of the possible - I didn't know that was an option. Fucking shut up. This is the fucking greatest day on the podcast. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. about the possible convenience of homeschooling. You know, where you guys just drag them around. I don't want my kids to be weird. I know. Yeah. Exactly. I'm with you. They need that social interaction probably, right? Yeah. No. I know plenty of parents that have done it successfully. So who are we to judge? But I definitely benefited from getting away from adults and into school and being with kids when I wasn't working.
22:01It was great. Yeah, and they would just, you'd pick up, the great news was the bus that picked you up was the school. Turns out, Jason went to school on a bus, and he didn't drop out of high school, he was dropped off from high school. It is true. It's going to be a fun chapter in the book one day. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Don't you cry, JB. Don't you cry, JB. I'm not crying, you're crying. Don't you cry. So, and you kind of mentioned you didn't really have to audition anymore, and you kind of did for Little Women, But then you just started doing, and you mentioned you get nominated, I guess, when you're doing Jumanji, which was a huge hit.
22:38That's massive. Yeah, massive. And you just, you kind of went on this run of like just being in these big, massive movies and you're young. Yeah. So you're like, oh, well, this is my reality. Yeah. It wasn't though. Like I was almost embarrassed. Really? Really? I think so. And I didn't really, I like had a blocker up, I think, that didn't compute what I was doing. Plus, what am I doing? I'm going to school. I have my best friend. We're in our own world. Like, I really lived in a very little, like, school bubble, you know? So, I would do my thing. But didn't it get weird, like, on the weekends and you go to your school parties and all the kids at the party and you're just trying to, you just feel like you're just one of the kids at the weekend party.
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23:24and then like, oh, hey, that's that girl from the movie I saw last week. They didn't do that to me. No? Really? Come on. You were pretty famous, though. Yeah, but I don't know. At a very early age. They didn't do that to me at school. Yeah? Maybe it was like I was very normal. I didn't come into school like, hey, look at me. No, no. I was embarrassed. Right. Yeah, talk to me about that. What do you mean embarrassed? It's like embarrassed because of the attention that you got that was a byproduct of the movie that you weren't looking for? I think I just didn't want to be singled out at school as anything other than another student there.
24:02And high school too. Like I didn't want anyone to call me out or be like, so I underplayed myself. Were you already through high school when you did Bring It On? It was senior year, the summer before senior year. I love that movie so much. Like the ultimate cheerleading, like high school movie too of all time. But we didn't know that at the time. That was like a little San Diego who cares movie that Universal, you know, it wasn't like no one knew that that would be. Do you still remember some of the cheers? You know I do. Do you ever do it sometimes ironically on set when you're trying to ramp up the crew and the cast?
24:40It's a fucking night shoot and it's time to keep going. Ready? Okay. Five, five. I did it for my sons yesterday because we went to this 25th anniversary. Well, we went to this 25th anniversary Bring It On thing on Sunday night. No way. And they had good pom-poms. So I brought some pom-poms home and I was like doing cheers for them and spelling their names. That's the only show. Those are the only people that are going to get that show. Did they like it? Yes. My son was like looking at me like I was like, whoa, like a golden goddess. I didn't know you could do this, mom. You don't want him to like it too much.
25:19cheer squad yeah i actually a mom recruited me to start a cheer squad at the school really oh wow yes yes yes oh i'm gonna do it i'll do it yeah i love that you're gonna do that i do love that show that show cheer on uh oh yeah that's right until it got dark i know i know Is it? Is it dark? I don't know. What is it? Well, it got dark. A guy got arrested for bad things. Yeah. Really? Oh, God. Wait, I didn't see that one. Did that happen on the show or away from it? Off the show. Off the show, yeah. Oh, got it. Wait, Shonda, did you ever experiment with Cheer Squad? No, but my sister was a cheerleader.
25:59What's your sister's name? Her name is Tracy. Okay. With an EY or is it just Y? An EY, yeah. Okay. And she... Where she lived? She lived in Wisconsin. Does she know much about the biz? Yeah. No. Do you have to explain stuff to her ever? Yeah, anytime you guys can think about it, just make sure. Continuing. And so she would do cheerleading things and she would do batons. Oh, wait, do I have the photo? No. And there's a picture of me and her. I'd love you to grab a baton. And I thought. I'm so excited. So I learned how to do the baton at a young age. What is the little thing, the dude in front of the band, the marching band?
26:35The stick? Yeah, so it's got a pointy stick and then a little ball at the top. Is that also a baton? or just a staff or something. Band leader stick. Or staff. Yeah, staff. Yeah, something like that. Anyway, Kirsten. I'm happy chilling. Yeah, you don't get to talk on this show. I love it. Wait, so tell me, wait. Because like Will said, you've done so many gigantic movies. Is there, I know you don't want to, they're all important to you and all of your work is important. But they're all different, like sort of different styles. Like you really bounce around. You can't be pegged to one thing. Like you've had these, It almost feels like different phases.
27:11Well, they're just different roles, I guess. That's what it is. Yeah. Simplicity. But is there one where you're just like, you know what? That was the greatest experience of my whole career so far. Whoa. And you just thought like, there's no way it can get better than that. Not result necessarily, but just experience. Yeah, yeah. No, the experience. The experience. Huh. I don't know. Because like movies aren't fun to make. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Yeah. So, but, God, I really liked— He'll take the worst experience. I liked making Melancholia. I don't— Oh, yeah. It was like this little isolated—it felt like we were doing a play.
27:52We all lived in this small town in Sweden in this hotel slash housing place. and it was just like cozy and really calm and so, what am I, like comforting? I don't know. It was just, I just felt like, oh, this is what it could be like. Lars von Trier? Yeah. Yeah. Now that you have a fam. Go ahead. Well, I'm going to ask a dumb question. Surprise. When you, I'm not sure about going to Sweden. to Norway. Okay. Why? Because of the light. I can't wait for this. I feel like I get very sad because if I'm there during the time of the year when the sun only comes up for a couple of hours, I'm going to feel like a vampire.
28:42They call it winter. They call it winter. Is it winter? I can't. I'm sure I can do it. No, it's very, we were there in the summer, so we had a beautiful Swedish summer. Almost worse, right? Because the sun never goes down. It did. It's weird. I went one time early July, and I flew from here, and I landed there, and I had crazy jet lag, and then woke up at 4 a.m. for a phone call came through, and I step outside, and it's blaring sun, and it's like 5 to 4 a.m., and it felt like it was noon, and I was like, what the fuck? Where am I? It was so discombobulating. I feel bad. I mean, because of that, Kirsten, because you have a family now, and Jesse works, and it's this very artistic, you know, You're just around it all the time and the schedules.
29:28Do you still enjoy going to another country for three, four, five, six months, whatever it is, to work? I mean, those experiences, do they still fill you up? Well, I didn't enjoy Budapest. Let's just put it that way. I really did not. Well, our son, we all went as a family. We enrolled them in the international school there. Yeah. And then my son had appendicitis and emergency surgery and then recovered for a week and then had a blockage. So basically, my time in Budapest was horrible. It was horrible. God, that's so young to have an appendicitis. Usually it takes years to fill that thing up. I don't know.
30:13I was like, everyone's like, drink the water there. So I was like, yeah, the water's great. So now I'm freaking out. Like, was it the water? I don't know. Wait, what movie was that on? That was on the airplane movie. Oh, that you just did? Oh, no shit. No shit. Oh, wow. So this first part, I mean, everyone's had a shit year, it seems like. But like the first part of our year was pretty bad. But to Sean's question, are you a big nester? Like now that you're back home, do you love just like not going anywhere? Yeah, I don't go anywhere. Yeah, me neither. I stay in my radius of school drop-off and neighborhood restaurants.
30:52I don't leave the valley. It's nice, isn't it? You go in there to that Bob's Big Boy? You get in there? Oh, I love that place. I like the car nights, but I never want to eat there. Bob's Big Boy. Oh, I love it. Don't cool it, man. Yeah. It's not going anywhere. We're not going to be done with this for another 20 minutes. Scottie, start the car. I was in London just yesterday, actually. What's today? Tuesday? Yeah. And I just did my last show. I did a play there, Kirsten. And it was... Finally! A final good night! A final good night for us! And every Sunday, we would go to Five Guys, right? The burger place.
31:34Yeah, yeah. And so Will FaceTimed me and Scotty on our walk to Five Guys. And he goes, where are you going? I go, he goes, are you on your way to Five Guys to get a burger? I go, yeah. He goes, by the look of you both, you're going to walk out of there. you're going to walk out of there looking like 10 guys or something like that. Am I right? It's so stupid. But I love those old burger joints like Bob's Big Boy and stuff. And there's a lot of them in the valley, like old pizza places in the valley that are really great. I'm going to say something controversial. There's Chili John's too. Have you been to Chili John's?
32:06That place is a real relic. It's on... Wait, right across the street from it? Riverside and Coldwater, is that the place? No, Chili John's is on... Is it Magnolia or Burbank? I think it's Burbank, and it's very cool, old school. Have you guys done Apple Pan? You must have done Apple Pan. Yes, of course. But that's over the hill. Yeah, Apple Pan's the best. That's far. I'm going to say something controversial. There are burger places that everybody talks about that I just think are really overrated. Like? Like? Well, I don't want to name it. In-N-Out? I want to raise people's boats, but I'm not going to name things that I don't like.
32:39That's super, super courageous.
32:44Well, I will say our friend on Sunday makes a burger very much on par with In-N-Out. Oh, my God. I would say better. Yeah. I would say better. I could be with you. I would say better. Wow. It's really delicious. If you could, let's go around the horn here. If you could have only one classic junk food as your final meal, would it be like a burger? would it be pizza would it be grilled cheese that's a great question I will go first I think it's going to be pizza and I'm going to have a side of well done fries okay oh yeah I would do I'd probably yeah yeah you go no you go Sean spaghetti okay really that's not junk food well it's not it's so Sean Hayes you know this guy can I have some ice cream yeah what flavor vanilla that's it that's his goat he loves it so much with a glass of milk.
33:40Mother's milk. It's mother's milk. Kirsten, what would you have? What would be your ultimate junk food? Well, junk food, I mean - Like comfort food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be grilled cheese. I think I honestly, I might do In-N-Out. Yeah. Cheeseburger. With a chocolate shake. Just a single? Well, cheeseburger, extra spread, no onions is my vibe. So not the double-double? No. Extra spread, though. I like your style. You're not doing the spread on the side. You want them to slather it right on. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to eat it quick before the bun gets soggy. Yeah, that's why I turn the air conditioning off when I get takeout for home.
34:15I'm like, AC off. This shit, it better be rolled up in the bag real tight. I hate when people come home with an open box of In-N-Out. I do too. I do too. What's the point? So AC off because you want to keep your burger hot? Yes. God, I love you. That is extra level. That is really interesting. I'm with you on that. Wait, can I go back to work for a second? No, wait, Arnett hasn't declared. Oh, yeah, sorry. I'd go pizza too. I'd go pizza and chocolate shake. And what kind of pizza is it? It would probably be just a, more than likely just a cheese pizza. Yeah. Maybe with some meat on it, maybe sausage, sausage.
34:50Some nice meat. Some sausage. I want some sausage and some onions. Is that a crispy or is that kind of a soft, I'm a... No, it's got to have a sort of a crispy, crispy undercarriage as they say. Black bottom. Not necessarily, not necessarily black bottom, but I just got to have some crisp to it. Some snap. When I see people eat pizza and put the crust to the side and they don't eat the crust, I'm like, are you a communist? What are you doing? In college, I used to eat the pizza and then save the crust and dip it in peanut butter after. Ew. God, you shit pig. Peanut butter? Yeah, because it was just bread.
35:25I mean ranch. Sean, I mean this with all respect. You fat fuck.
35:34wait I want to ask more work stuff it's Kirsten Dunst I know I know me too I want to ask I want to know do you have any kind of routine things that you do before a shoot after a shoot during a shoot or something that you're consistent about that like you know I'm about to start a job so this is how this is gonna go I'm gonna make sure I do blank blank blank like practicing your faces or in the mirror yeah yeah Anything I do. Are you big on research? Are you big on like getting and studying your character and figuring out what they have in their pockets and all that actor stuff? They have a secret.
36:10My characters have a secret. What do I do? I do dream work. That's my main thing I do. Oh, yeah. What's that? I like that. Yeah. What is dream work? I just did it the first time. You did? Yeah. Yeah. Is that the company that was started by David Geffen? Come on, man. Yeah. You're on the right. Wait, Kirsten, I don't know what dream work is. So there's a couple acting coaches, you could call them, but they're more than that. But my lady is someone who's done it. Her mom did it too. And you basically ask yourself questions and write yourself a note at night of what you want to find out about your character.
36:49And then whatever you dream, you write it down and you discuss it with her and implement it into the script. That's really cool. I love that. But regardless of whether the dream had anything to do with the question or your character, it's just whatever your dream scenario was, you kind of incorporated into your character's backstory. Well, you're writing yourself a specific note at night. So you're asking your unconscious to give you something that you can implement. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And then when you're done with the movie, you write yourself a note. I'm done with this character, blah, blah, blah, and sign out.
37:27There's your routine. There's your thing that you do. That's pretty rad. That is pretty cool. We'll be right back.
37:38And now, back to the show. Are you good at remembering lines? I'm getting worse. Yeah. I'm so bad. It's coming for all of us. Really? I'm getting so bad that if I read a script and the person talks a lot, I'm like, I don't know if I can do this. So if somebody brought you a one-woman show on Broadway, right now? Oh, hell no. Hell no. Hell to the no. No, no. Our buddy John Krasinski just did one. He knocked me out. My God. I love that. Is that awesome? Yeah. Just fucking unreal. It looks like, and Billy Crudup's done it a bunch of times. Yeah, they're both men. See, women multitask. No, Laura Linney's done it a few times.
38:17Okay. She's nailed it. You can do it. I don't know. It's weird to me. I don't like the idea of doing a play. It's a lot of work. Let's be honest. It's a lot of work, right, Sean? I mean, Sean. Oh, my God. I know. Sean just came off basically two and a half years of doing this play. That sounds so tiring to me. I did it over 200 times. Are you okay? You got a Tony out of it. Got a Tony. Yeah. I mean, at least you got the Tony. I mean, I know what you mean, Kirsten. It is, you know, you don't do it for the financial because theater doesn't pay. but you do it because of a thing inside as an actor that you just wouldn't otherwise get the opportunity maybe or you get that character that you've always wanted to play out of you.
38:59So you're like, great, I did that and now that's done and now I can go do maybe another character. Do you ever think about the audience judging you though? Like, oh, that person's just coming to see the girl from Spider-Man. You know what I mean? Like I feel a little weird. The girl from Spider-Man. That's the name of the play. I just, I just, I don't know. It's just, maybe when I'm older, I'll like it. Listen, one of the only live things I did was centering it live once, and I had the best time of my life. But I grew up watching that show, like literally one of the best times of my life. How was that experience?
39:32I had one of the best times of my life. You just said that. No, but I mean like specifically, like what was the, what was, yeah. Well, I grew up watching the show, as do my kids now. They'll call out people and be like, Like, you know, will you put on the Bill Hader puppet sketch for me? You know, like I show them Chris Farley with the Colombian coffee, you know, the decaf Colombian coffee. I got to see that. It's one of the funniest sketches ever. We used to call our youngest. Well, he's baby Chris Farley. But I don't know where I'm going with this. You were talking about the specifics of what you loved about the week on SNL.
40:09So I was, when I was younger, I played Data Carvey's grandchild when he was George Bush on the couch. No way. Like eating popcorn as an extra. And I was with Victoria. Jackson. Yeah, thank you. In one of her spoof commercials too. So it's like such a legacy thing for my family. Yeah, it felt. Did they show that clip when you hosted? Yeah, they did. No way. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And it's in the, when you walk, like in the main hallway, when you get there, little me is in with Dana Carvey on the couch. That's cute. It was one of the, yeah, it was so, I loved it so much. I loved it. So, yes. What do you do when you're not working on films and stuff and momming?
40:54You know, do you, what do you want, what do you love to do? What do you fill your time with? You're just like nothing, shopping, walking around Toluca Lake. I honestly, the other day, I dropped them off. I went to Pilates. I did do that. And then I just watched TV. I want to lay in bed and watch TV. That's all. Sean? Yeah, I'm with you. I don't want to make a generalization here, a sexist generalization here. But you're going to? But I'm going to. This would be a good bailout. Somebody told me the other day that they noticed that, I'll just talk about my own house. Amanda watches all of her TV in bed.
41:32I watch all of my TV on the couch. On the couch. Yeah. And I find that that is not uncommon. I said that pretty well, didn't I? You were very good. You did a really good job. Why do you think that is an uncommon thing? As it relates to gender, you mean? Okay. Sean said it. No, I didn't know. Or just people. are just like some people like to watch TV and movies. I've tried to watch TV in bed, and I feel like I'm getting like bed sores. Yeah, I feel that way. I need to be able to shift around a lot. I always think the bed is for sleeping, and so that if I start watching something in bed, then it's going to mess with my sleep.
42:11Yeah, and Scotty can't sleep unless the TV's on. He cannot fall asleep unless the TV's on. Scotty can. Yeah. I don't know, so we're going to be right with you. Hold on. Yeah. Do you fall asleep with a TV on, Kirsten? No. No. You got a TV in the bedroom, though. Hell yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. Some people don't. We got one. Does Jessie watch it? Yeah. To go to sleep? No, not to go to sleep, just to enjoy. But what about, will you, because Amanda and I often fall asleep where she's watching her iPad and then I'm watching the TV, but she's got to have the fucking headphones on so that she can hear her iPad and not hear what I'm listening to on the TV, but it really only lasts about 10 minutes.
42:52But that's on the couch? She's down in your room with you and she's on the couch? No, no, this is when I eventually go upstairs. and I get in bed. And you turn the TV on when you're in bed. Yeah, she's got the iPad already going. I got to bring her her headphones. She puts those on and then I turn on the TV and let it rock me out. You guys should try something called talking to each other. Huh? Well, what do you mean? Relating, Jason. Let me come over and help your marriage. Just give me 10 minutes to help your marriage. Kirsten, is there somebody that you dreamed of working with that you haven't with?
43:22Because it seems like you've worked with all the great, like great, great, great people. I mean, the one is Paul Thomas Anderson. I feel like that's everywhere. That new movie is going to be the thing. Yeah, it looks sick. But he did recommend me for Melancholia. So that was cool. Oh, he did? Oh, that's cool. Well, Jesse can put in a good word for you. He's worked with him at least once. I mean, I have his phone number. He randomly emails me sometimes. So I have those saved. Just start sending him just random headshots of you from over the years. He did. He called me once and he was like, I need to talk to you about something.
43:53And I was like, oh my God, like this is gonna happen. And then we played phone tag forever. And then we finally got in touch and he was like, asked me about what it was like working with this other actor. Because he's thinking about giving them a job. I was like, you know how mean that was of you? Yeah. That was not cool to do that. I can't imagine the pressure. He must feel so much pressure like every actor that he ever talks to. Yeah. They're just hitting on him. Is this my moment? Yeah. Yeah. What can I do to make a good impression on him? Yeah. I know. Well, it'll come. Listen, it'll happen, too.
44:30You can manifest anything. I mean, of course it's going to happen. Is that right? Will, what does the universe say about that? By the way, it's true. You don't need to raise your eyebrows up when you're talking about manifesting. You want to fucking fight me on this? Give me your pitch on manifestation. Put it out there. Put it out there. You're saying ask the universe for what you want and it's going to happen? Yeah. You know what I always say? Why not me? Why not me? Well, why don't you just let them, you know? I could let them, too. Mel Robbins. Thank you. And we'll be right back. Yeah. We've been doing this lately where we try to go to commercial.
45:01Just like, we'll throw to commercial. And we'll be right back. How did you and Jesse meet? We met on Fargo, season two. Oh. Yep. And we, it's so funny. I remember seeing him at the airport, like us meeting at LAX for the first time so clearly. we just he doesn't remember it that way you said that it's almost like he doesn't remember it no no I just like you don't often remember meeting the first meeting with someone you could picture it in your brain really clearly yeah well but can you say why it's you remember it so clearly I don't know why it's like one of those things that like well I remember that moment even though I didn't know this was my future husband you know when did the flirt start can you tell us The flirt?
45:50Like, I think we were so, like, soulmate and meshed kind of in our characters, too. But also the way we worked. And I just felt like I didn't want to not be near him is what I thought. Aw, I love that. Yeah, even at lunchtime, like, I'd be like, what are you doing for lunch, you know? Whatever, let's make a sandwich at Crafty because, you know, whatever. Who asked who first whether they were involved in a relationship? We both kind of knew. Oh, we were both in relationships. Yeah. So then it was respectful all the way through. Yeah, totally respectful. And then we just kept in touch. And then both were out of our relationships.
46:35We didn't get together until a year after. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. South by Southwest was our first hangout. Aha. Aha. Copy that. Hot Austin summer nights. Back to one. You know. Still rolling.
46:55We would be remiss if we didn't talk a little bit about Roofman. So, JB, you saw this movie. It's amazing. Roofman. I saw this movie. I give it a huge, huge thumbs up. Huge thumbs up. Directed by the great Derek Sanfrentz. Yes. And co-starring Channing Tatum. Yep. it's a it's a it's a based on a true story about a dude who lives inside of Toys R Us for a couple months yes he does he basically robbed like 45 McDonald's through the roof that's why they call him the roof man yeah this is all true really yeah and he hid out in a in a Toys R Us for six months yeah it's like it's and it's you know like you know me I'm a dark idiot and so I keep waiting for this film to get like kind of scary and bleak and dark and crime and but it's so this this film has such a great spirit and warmth about it even though it's a centralized around a character that's you know breaking the law left and right and it's not like an overtly sort of robin hood thing where they kind of earn it all but it kind of is but there's just such great like there's like a tone throughout it that that derek cian france just like pulls through it that is just like such a high wire act that's so cool and kirsten you and channing do such a great job of of maintaining that too i think it's like i don't know i think it's just one of the hardest things in the world to um keep something winning and watchable all the way through yeah not be like sappy or corny or feel manipulative yeah yeah right never gets earnest although it's a very warm movie um it's i don't know it's very hard to describe but i highly recommend it it's really yeah and kirsten I love that.
48:40I can't wait to see it. Do you find yourself as long as you've worked, kind of integrating yourself towards whether you get credit for it or not, a producerial kind of role when you choose your acting gigs? Meaning, I like this part. I want to meet with the director or whatever it is, but I have these things to say about how to improve my role in it so that it works for me or whatever the thing is. I mean, I did that on a TV show, but I feel like it's both those movies that I did Roofman and this and the plane movie were so developed that it's not really you know yeah you're just like great yeah yeah I mean I would have done anything with Derek right so this isn't a part personally that I would naturally maybe gravitate towards but I but I wanted to again work with him for the experience like I just yeah that's was it everything you hoped it would be working with him yes yes yes how about that yeah that's so cool when that happens I want to work with him again yeah I hear he's a great guy I've never met him and Channing is just like the greatest ever I love him he is such a good such a good dude yes he's the real one of the real ones yeah so I mean honestly and obviously Derek is such a great filmmaker but and his movies are kind of little movies and when I say that I don't mean in terms of just in terms of like compared to some of these huge movies that get made these days that are all like based on IP and whatever He has these really great little story-driven movies that he makes with great characters.
50:12Do you, and you've done all of, as we mentioned before. Yeah, it's amazing. You've got a great stance in both, yeah. Yeah, now when you look to do stuff, so as you sit here and you're at home and Jesse's off working and you're thinking, okay, I'm gonna do my next thing. Do you have a plan? Do you go like, I wanna kind of hit this note next or do you just kind of wait? I kind of wait, but also I'd like to do something fun. Like, I just want to have fun. And I, yeah, I want to do like a comedy or do something big and fun. And what, and why, and you know, like that's the thing we talk about on the show sometimes.
50:46Like, where are those movies? Why do they not make those big, fun studio ensemble comedies anymore? I think they will soon. I think they have to. Yeah, because the world around us is too dark. Yeah. It sure is. I think people just have to, I think people are going to want to crave, are going to start craving that. I don't know when, but I think. I know I want to direct a comedy next. I think it, you know, sometimes, who was I talking about this? Like this idea that when we're in times that are dark, people don't have as much of an appetite for these big sort of action-y, fun, pithy movies because it's not where they're at.
51:24And it's often a reflection of, like, if everything sort of feels calm in our culture, then we can just kind of go and do these big, goofy things. And when it's not calm, it's hard for people to let go. it's weird because you'd think that they'd want to have the escapism but they actually don't. Yeah, like scary movies are actually doing really well. There you go. Like Weapons. Oh my God, that movie's good. Yeah. You love that Weapons. I do love that Weapons. I know. Have you seen it, Kirsten, Weapons? I haven't seen it yet, no. Do you watch movies? Go to Jason's house. He's showing it about every two hours.
51:56Yeah. Do you watch movies though at home? Yeah, do you like movies? By yourself or with your kids or whatever? I like going to the movie theater. Yeah, and I'll take them to the movie theater. Yeah, I'd rather... If I watch a movie at home, I fall asleep. Yeah, have your kids seen all the classics like E.T., Star Wars, all those things? You know, they're four and seven. Yeah, it's not like... But you know what, my little guy... I was seven when Star Wars came out. Hey, Sean, she hasn't shown them Star Wars. Don't be a jerk. Fuck. Okay, go ahead, sorry. No, my four-year-old likes Venom. the first Venom, which I probably shouldn't have shown him.
52:36That's so weird. That's so weird. So does my little guy. Oh my God. My five-year-old likes Venom too. Really? I mean, we're probably not good parents for showing them, but whatever. I saw The Exorcist when I was like eight or nine. Yeah, I saw it that young too. I should not be seeing that movie. Also, my child was begging me, my four-year-old, to watch Jaws. I was like, okay, Jesse and I showed him the first 10 minutes and tried to explain that the girl is being pulled around on a rope. Yeah. when she's getting eaten alive in the shark. No, he went. He went. He did. He still went, yeah. Nowhere near San Monica Pier, though.
53:08But I had to talk him down.
53:13Well, listen, Kirsten, we've taken away too much of your time. Yeah, yeah. This is, we're, you're such a delight. I mean, I could talk to you guys for a while. I know, we could. This is not, no zero pressure vibes. I'm coming over. I'm coming over later this afternoon. Great, come over. Come have coffee with me. You know, sometimes those interviews, they feel like they were, that they're like 10 minutes long. you just this is all very easy breezy I know Jason and I are coming so we're gonna stop by the house and we'll drop off some In-N-Out for you on our way yeah thanks guys it's gonna be hot as shit too you know how to make a girl happy yeah alright so so Roofman is out October 10th we're really excited about it October 10th also with the as you called it the airplane movie I forget what it's called you're gonna come back for that I want you back entertainment system is down I wanna see that yeah So many amazing things.
54:01You've done so many great roles. You continue to do it. You're such a delight. So happy to have you here. Yeah, what an incredible career. And a great person and a great mom and a great wife. You're just doing it all. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. KD. Thank you for joining us, KD. Thank you for having me. Such a pleasure to meet you, Kirsten. Thanks, Kirsten. You too. Bye, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. I mean, that was real special. Real special. That was a lot of fun. Listener, you didn't see the bonus moment there with the two young boys. and she finally opened up the door and let them in. And they came in and said hi, and Will did his Lego Batman voice, and it blew their minds.
54:38Cute kid. It was fun. Really cute. Really fun. I love that. So cute. So cute. So, so cute. What a nice lady. You guys are cute. You guys are really cute. You got a couple of cutie pies out there. Great career. She's not even halfway done. I know. Oh, my God. She's just getting warmed up. Yep. She's just getting warmed up. She is so, I'm so excited for Roofman. JB, you've already seen it, but I can't wait to see it. It's going to be so good. Yeah, I want to see it. And then the entertainment system. I want to see that other one. I know, I know. Entertainment system is down. Because what would we do?
55:08She's always good. She's one of those people. Always good. Always good. Everything she does. Sean, you get that all the time. Yeah. I mean, and JB? Hey, man, you know. No, no, no, no. 50-50? 50-50, yeah. Sometimes you're on, and sometimes you're on standby. Bye. Bye. Bye. Oh, that's so fast. Bye, buddy. Smart Less.
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