"Leanne Morgan"

10:01Sean Hayes:I've seen you do it. First of all, congrats on your, I know your show has been a super big hit. So congrats on that. Thank you. And then now you, did you just have a special, a Netflix special? Yeah, it was in the top 10. Yeah, like exactly. Like you're just having all this stuff. And then I've seen you in a couple of interviews and you've got a great vibe. I watched a little bit of your, you were on with Conan and it was so funny. God. We like that Conan. We love Conan. I didn't need the best. I know. He was wonderful. I mean, this guy's working with nothing. He has so little talent, and then he's managed to kind of...

10:37Sean Hayes:Stay smooth. Yeah, stay smooth and kind of scotch something together, this dude. Bless his heart. It's amazing. It's all repetitive, but it works. It is. And think about how little intellect he has, and yet he's able to kind of make it work. Yeah, he makes the hair dance a little bit, and he distracts you. His hair. I know. I know. Blame me away. Wait, Leanne, so tell me, like, to what Will just said, Why do you think you are hitting at this time right now in your life, in this business, and all of it? What do you think's going on? Oh, my Lord. I don't know, boys. I guess, okay. I guess, you know, I've been doing stand-up for 20 years when this hit.

11:16I was in my early 50s. That's so good. And I think that, I mean, I was doing the same stuff I'd always been doing. And one time I was backstage with Reba McIntyre's ex-husband, Norval. And he said—

11:29Will Arnett:No, we know Norval well. Norval? Yeah. That has Blake Shelton and all these people, Kelly Clarkson. And he said, it's just a phenomenon, Lynn. Like, you've been doing the same thing for 20 years, and you— Yeah. You know, changing up my material, you know, all that. But doing stand-up, and then this hits. It's like somebody turned a light on in a dark room. But I started doing that social media thing, y 'all. I found my audience, and I think that I found a niche, a demo. I don't know what you Hollywood boys would call it, but a bunch of people that were probably being ignored by Hollywood. I think that.

12:08And I think I spoke to all these darling people that love to be entertained, buy tickets to theaters, and have been wonderful to me. And they like my sitcom, and they watch my specials. They love your sitcom.

12:21Sean Hayes:By the way, these guys are, I'm from Toronto. I'm just a kid. I'm just an Auschucks kid from Toronto, it should be noted. I'm just a Canadian kid.

12:28Will Arnett:Yeah. We'll fill in all the Hollywood stuff for you guys. Okay. Sean and I, we got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it is interesting that I think our buddy Judd Apatow explained why comedy movies are not doing as good a business nowadays. is because social media, there's these great little bite-sized moments of comedy that people kind of get satisfied by. And it is great. I mean, I'm looking at them too. I'm laughing my ass off. And it does seem like - And it's immediate, right? Yeah, but it is helping some parts of the business and maybe hurting others. I don't know, but it is - I think it hurts.

13:10I do. I love a comedy. I love a movie. I've only done one movie, and I played Reese Witherspoon's big sister, Gwen. With Will Ferrell. With Will Ferrell. He was darling. And we had a ball. But I miss movies like that. I love all of Judd Apatow's movies. I mean, I just, yeah, and I do. I think there's these little snippets, and then people just get satisfied with that.

13:34Will Arnett:Yeah. And let me tell y 'all that my sitcom made it to number two on Netflix because The Hunting Wives came out the same time. All those girls that were shooting boars in their panties, Did y 'all ever watch that show? I know. Wait, what happened? No, what is it? It's hunting wives. They'll shoot a wild boar in panties? They were shooting boars in their panties, Jason. Jason's like, what channel? And then would do sexual stuff with each other, and I could not beat that. You know, a multi-wife could not beat that.

14:04Sean Hayes:How do you spell hunting? Sorry.

14:10Sean Hayes:My internet's slow here, but...

14:15Will Arnett:Is that true? I have heard of The Hunting Wives, but I haven't seen it yet. Is that what we can look forward to if we sample that? I mean, yeah. I think you would enjoy it, Jason, in the privacy of your own home. And then my special, Unspeakable Things, that's the one that just came out. The first one was I'm Every Woman. Right, that was huge. I could not believe Netflix gave me a special. Me being, you know, out in the middle of - Were they both in the top 10? Yes. Yeah. That's so amazing. That's so good. Deservedly so. It's funny as hell. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. But so then you think that perhaps the bits that you were releasing onto social media, they caught fire a bit.

14:57Will Arnett:And then did you then see attendance at your stand-up gigs get larger? And Netflix took notice of that. And then they said, okay, now you get a special. Is that the way? Yes. That's exactly what happened. And then that special brings even more people, and then there's another special. She gets a signal. That's the way it goes.

15:16Sean Hayes:Jason works in business affairs, so he's trying to figure out the commerce here. At what point was the big negotiation? Was it before the first special or after? How far apart were you guys on your first offer? I think what turned it around, I could not get arrested. I always say that. I could not sell tickets in clubs. I was in my early 50s. I already felt like it was over. And then clubs would say, we love her, but she can't sell tickets. And I was just about to give up. And then I put out a clip of me taking my husband, Chuck Morgan, to go see Def Leppard and Journey and how everybody looks sick and had plantar fasciitis.

15:55And that went viral. And then I think people saw that and they were like, what else does she have?

16:01Will Arnett:Everybody looks sick. And had plantar fasciitis. That is a rough crowd. Because of the way he walks. Is that what it is? Oh, the little boys in Journey, you know. Well, they've hired that little guy, that little young guy, and he can still flip and squat and stuff, but those old boys. And then Def Lampard came out. And I thought he had a little bump underneath his little chest. What, Jason? Is it Benson Boone? Is that the flipping squatter? Oh, no, he's a skipper and squatter. But no, the little, they've hired Journey, you know, because Steve Perry had a hip replacement. And maybe they even fell out.

16:42Maybe somebody got mad and they fell out. But as we say in the South, but they've hired some little man that can sound like Steve Perry and he could still move. But all the old boys were in the back, you know, and had a blank stare and you could. But then Jeff Leppard came out and had like a little bump under. And I thought, he's got a hernia. Little Jeff Leppard, man.

17:04Will Arnett:He's wearing yoga pants still? He has tiny legs. His legs were this big. And he had hair down to here. And you could see through it. And I thought, see through it. And I had never done that bit before. And I was going to Chattanooga, Tennessee. And I thought, everybody's already heard all this mess. I got to come up with something new. And I thought, oh, I'll tell them about me and Chuck Morgan going to see Def Leberton Journey. And that's what did it. And then I got the big panty tour, boys. So then I found myself talking about my panties a lot, so I named it the Big Panty Tour. But that was all, like, coming out of COVID, so everything was booming, and I was selling tickets.

17:48And then your daughter used to run your Facebook account during COVID because you didn't know how to unite, like, a tech person, and that's when you discovered, like, oh. Yeah, all my kids were doing it until I hired these darling young guys who, during COVID, they helped me. Yeah, yeah. And I was on my back porch, you know, eating chicken and dressing. Well, I don't even want to say that in front of y 'all because that's country. Like a chicken casserole and drinking wine. Too much wine. And then I went on tour, and every picture of me at the Big Panty Tour, I looked sweaty and heavy. And like I was just like chicken casserole was coming out of my pores.

18:26And I had imposter syndrome, and I was freaked out. And then Netflix bought that, and I did that. special and then you know netflix is the stamp i think netflix is the stamp to say she's legit this is the real deal and that changed my life that changed my life yeah and then chuck lorry came to my house in knoxville tennessee and asked me if i he i would do a television show with him and this was and and talk about though before that where there was four other like ones that didn't work for you like were they pilots or were they actual shows that i never shot a pilot, but I did, but I would be in Knoxville, Tennessee, raising my three children.

19:07And, um, I guess my first one, I Warner Brothers and ABC, ABC bought it. And, um, my children were in elementary and maybe one was in middle school. And I thought that was it. This was it. I'm going to be the next Roseanne. And then the writer's strike hit that first writer's strike hit. and it was over in a day. In 07.

19:30Sean Hayes:So that was a while ago. Yeah. And then I got two or three more. You know, you get them mixed up. Some of them I think could have gone somewhere. Some of them I don't think were ever going to go anywhere. But I didn't know. I'm not a Hollywood. You know, I don't know all that. But it's not the way it was supposed to. That was not your story. This is your story. And this is kind of the best version of it too. I think it's awesome. That was not your train, Leanne. This is your train. and you're on it now. It's so exciting to watch and to see. And Jason has some follow-up questions about the chicken on the porch.

20:03Go ahead, Jason. Yeah, was it a white wine or was it a red wine?

20:09Will Arnett:Because - It was a red. It was a red, Jason, in the middle of perimenopause that made that worse. You talking about wallowing in the bed at night, sweating, y 'all are asking each other, how did you sleep before I came on here? Real warm at night. Not well. I know it. I know. Not well. Wait, and then did I, speaking about food, you celebrated your 60th birthday by going and eating two cakes with a fork at the grocery store. Is that right? Okay. Oh, my God. We were in Florida, my favorite beach to go to. Chuck Morgan took me and all these kids and my two grandbabies. I've got two grandsons, a blonde and a redhead wheel, because I did Amy Poehler's podcast, that doll, and she said, we've got, honey, we've got that too.

20:52Okay. And they took me down there, and we had one in their toddlers, so we stayed in every night. It was wonderful. And then my kids bought me two birthday cakes from the grocery store, and I stood and ate them at the counter with a fork, with an old tankini swim skirt, Land's Inn bathing suit, boys.

21:11Will Arnett:Wow. Yeah. Why did we get two? Because you have two favorites? Well, my kids, I've trained them that we overeat, but they were like, We know she likes chocolate, and the grandbabies like chocolate. And then we know that they, I think they wanted Chuck Morgan. He also likes a vanilla and a chocolate. So they said, let's get two. Because I've raised them that every day's a party. I have. Right, right, right. Yeah. And we will be right back. Getting a good deal is kind of a big deal. So get this. Prime Day is coming June 23rd through the 26th with all the best deals you've been waiting for. Prime Day delivers more than great prices.

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24:20Sean Hayes:Can we just talk a little bit about Chuck Morgan? Because I love this idea of Chuck Morgan. I like hearing his full name every time. I love it. Now, what's the deal with Chuck Morgan? He's a character, right? He's been a problem for some time. He's been a problem for some time. Yeah. I met him at the University of Tennessee, honey. I had gone through a divorce and had smoked cigarettes and not gone to class, y 'all. I hate to even say that to y 'all. But I was a wreck.

24:49Will Arnett:I dropped out. Dropped out. It's all voluntary when you get to college. You do whatever the hell you want, you know? I was an idiot. And then I went back to finish, and I did. And then Chuck Morgan, I think, is attracted to people who are broken. And so we started dating. Not a lot of pushback from the broken folks. Yeah. So we thought, let's merge this like Kmart and what was that, Sears? And let's just run it in the ground. But anyway, so Chuck Morgan and I marry. And then he buys a used mobile home business. He got an MBA, and he had never stepped in a mobile home, a trailer, and bought a mobile home business and moved me to the foothills of the Appalachia Mountains.

25:36All the while, y 'all, knowing from the time I was little, I'm going to be in show business. I'm going to be on television. I knew it from the time I was 10. Really? But I just didn't know how. You know, I was from the country and farming people. I didn't know how to, you know, I would have loved to have done the Groundlings or Second City. I was raised on Saturday Night Live. I would have loved to have done, but I just didn't know how. You know, I was this little bitty country kid. And all through your 40s and 50s and all that, you still held on to that kind of thing that I'm still, it doesn't matter how long it takes, I'm still going to do it.

26:09When I started, I called myself a true stand-up when Chuck sold that business and went to work for a big...

26:16Sean Hayes:Chuck Morgan. Berkshire Hathaway company, Chuck Morgan. And he moved me to San Antonio, and I would drive back and forth to Austin, Texas, where one of the best comedy clubs in the United States was in Austin. and Jimmy Miller, who is Dennis Miller's brother.

26:33Will Arnett:We know Dr. Jimmy Miller.

26:35Sean Hayes:He's got a PhD in showbiz. That's what I always say. We love Dr. Miller. The third brother owned that comedy club, and he's the one that sent my first CD, CD, to Hollywood to Jimmy, and he gave it to Tom Warner at Warner Brothers, and that's how I got that deal. Hey, Tom, Jimmy Miller here. I got a hot CD for you. and Tom's like oh great sounds great thanks Jimmy thanks you know but two great guys no I was 32 when I started doing clubs and I considered myself a real but I had been doing like little gigs in Morristown Tennessee in the Appalachia like somebody say can you come and do your program at the Rotary and I would get paid$50 take my babies to mom's day out and go do that but I I started doing clubs and, you know, being more like the real thing at 32 years old.

27:30Will Arnett:Who was your hero coming up? Like, who were you looking at going, I'd love for my career to go that direction? Was it somebody on a sitcom or was it a stand-up? I loved all sitcoms, but I loved stand-up. I loved Johnny Carson and watching the stand-ups. So I would watch, you know, Jay Leno, David Letterman. Remember David Brenner? Yeah. Yes. And Richard Lewis. Yeah. I love Richard Lewis. I would watch Ellen, Roseanne. When Roseanne was on there, it blew me away. But I loved sitcoms. I grew up watching WKRP in Cincinnati. Yeah, sure. And Cheers and Frasier and all that. But anything to do with comedy movies, stand-up, I loved all of it.

28:14And I just didn't know what I was going to do and how you could make a living at it.

28:18Sean Hayes:Yeah, yeah. Guy, I'm going to go around the horn. What was everybody's favorite multicam sitcom of all time? All in the Family. All in the Family, you're number one?

28:27Will Arnett:Yeah. Yeah, Cheers for Me Too. Cheers for Me Too. Taxi was up there pretty good, too. Yeah, I should say Will and Grace, but I... Oh, Will and Grace! Wait, which one was that? No, no, I mean, because I was on it, so it'd be something else. It would be weird if you said it.

28:42Sean Hayes:It'd be weird if you named your own show. That's right, that's what I did, too. Let's just say, but yeah, Cheers for Me. Okay, sorry. Okay, sorry. Wait, what was your favorite favorite of all the multicam sitcoms of all time? If you had to pick one, gun to head. I don't know why there'd be a gun to your head. I love Lucy. Oh, gosh. Okay, y 'all, let me think. I really enjoyed WKRP in Cincinnati. There you go. I just loved it. I loved Lonnie Anderson. Les Nesman. I loved all those guys on radio. Gordon Chump. When I think about it, or like Three's Company. I'm 60 years old. Oh, I love Three's Company.

29:17Yeah, I do too. Three's Company.

29:18Sean Hayes:Never has a swinging door been more well used than in Three's Company. Right. Oh, to the kitchen, that's swinging. Oh, so good. Right. LaBernie Shirley. Played by John Ray. Yeah, that door was great. Swung pretty good, too. Sure. So, wait, when you first started out, you were doing like Kiwanis Club stuff, right? Yeah. Community center stuff. And did you know by those early shows? And then you were doing, I said in the intro, you were doing... Jewelry. Oh, jewelry, right. Jewelry parties. Is that like Tupperware parties and stuff? Yes. I was selling, because Chuck Morgan, y 'all, is tight with money.

29:50And people don't believe me when I say that. I remember that. We were just in New York celebrating my five-year-old grandbaby's fifth birthday. We took him to the Museum of Natural History and to the Lion King and all that. Chuck Morgan booked me in a Hilton Garden Inn. That's where Will is right now.

30:10Will Arnett:Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I kind of am a big deal, but he likes to keep us, you know, with the break zone. But so I wanted to, I wanted to, of course, he was 27 years old, y 'all, and had a business and was having to, you know, all these people on payroll. So I wanted to make a little money. I wanted to stay home and breastfeed my first baby. And I wanted to make a little money and get my hair highlighted. And then, so one of my friends said, I'm selling this jewelry. And I don't even care about jewelry. And she goes, you can meet people, because I was isolated up in the Appalachian Mountain.

30:48She said, you can meet people, and you can eat some dip, eat a brownie, sell some jewelry. By the way, I'm in.

30:58Will Arnett:I just had a vision of you just now presenting a necklace with a little bit of dip underneath your fingernails. Jesus. But you know,

31:09Sean Hayes:Jason's thinking about other people touching the other vegetables and the chips, all the other fingers that get in there, right, Jay? A little bit.

31:16Will Arnett:Oh, a double dipper. But you know, I look back on it, it was really fun and I sold jewelry to everybody in the Appalachian Mountains because I was funny and people thought they would book me about a year in advance because I was, they would have a good time. I wasn't talking about jewelry. I kind of developed some of my first material and I was talking about breastfeeding and hemorrhoids. I always talk about what I'm going through and women could relate to it. And then I remember saying to women, because you have to do the pitch at the end like to book a party with me. And I said, I mean, it's see me in, get me now with a party or see me in Las Vegas later.

31:57Will Arnett:You're right. It's up to y 'all. But I felt in my heart, y 'all, I thought, I'll be on TV one day. I'm going to be on, you know, I'll be in Las Vegas. as I'm going to be doing, which was crazy. But I thought that. I felt that every time. And then the company noticed.

32:11Sean Hayes:You have to see it. You have to see it to believe it. You really, really do. If you don't believe it, no one else is going to. Yeah, it's so true. And I always believed it. I got real worried. And right before I blew up, I told Chuck Morgan, I go, I don't think anything's going to happen. I feel desperate. I think I'm going to open up a hardware store. And he was like, that's crazy. And you don't need to do that, Lynn. And that's the first time I had doubt, and I almost quit. And I said, these social media boys that I hired who are darling, I'm still with them. And I never spent that kind of money on my career, and I thought, I'm giving it three months because it was expensive.

32:53I thought, I'm giving it three months. If nothing happens, I know that's a sign, and I will bail out. And the first video they put out went viral and changed everything.

33:03Sean Hayes:Let's give a shout out to those boys. What are their names? Honest Fox Media, and that is Jared and Andrew, and they are precious. And I tell you, y 'all, they had a mom. They grew up with a big bunch of brothers and sisters, and they got my voice. They understood my brand from the word go. That's great. What does Chuck Morgan think about the money you spent with Jared and the boys? He fought me on it. Yeah, of course he did. Classic Chuck Morgan. And I read that Chuck Morgan didn't realize how big your fame was until a gig at the University of Tennessee or something like that. You're walking out.

33:42Yeah, maybe when we went to see Lionel Richie and Earth, Wind & Fire. And people, he got me regular tickets, which, you know, I don't mind sitting regular in some way. But now I got a bunch of darling middle-aged women. You know, they've had a cocktail. And before you know it, I mean, we're all kissing and hugging, and I don't see the show. No, but anyway, people were yelling at me through the big arena, and I think he was dumbfounded.

34:09Will Arnett:Yeah, well, let's say more about that. What happens to old Big Britch's Chuck Morgan with his Berkshire Hathaway gig, and he's seeing Leanne up there. Yeah, you're jackassing it back to Austin, and it's not for shits and giggles.

34:21Sean Hayes:You're really doing something, and all of a sudden, Chuck Morgan's in for a bit of a reality check.

34:25Will Arnett:Security's getting between you and Chuck Morgan, walking back out to the car, and he's not comfortable with that, is he? Well, some of it he loves, Jason. Some of it, I think it's been, it has been something to navigate. I think he does like to go to the University of Tennessee and sit up in a box and meet Peyton Manning. Yeah.

34:45Sean Hayes:Yeah, of course he does. That doesn't suck, does it, old Chucky Bump? Chucky Bump. Wait a second. But he has been a wonderful provider, so I think it was, you know, it was a little. We love Chuck Morgan. No, we love Chuck Morgan. It was hard for him, for me to make, honey, to have this power. You know what I'm saying, boys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let me ask you just a little bit about you saying that Chuck Morgan got you the regular tickets, and you don't mind and stuff like that, but now people are yelling out. And that experience of like, because there is that thing of people go, oh, look at those celebrities.

35:13Sean Hayes:They're over in that special thing. And now you're like, oh, I kind of get it a little bit. Because, right? A little bit. Can you speak to that? Yeah. Because y 'all, I mean, I have wonderful fans. And when I tell y 'all, I go out in those theaters or arenas, and they stand up and blow me kisses before I've ever said a word. They're precious. They want to see me win. And I think a lot of women my age, I think they tell me it's inspiring that this happened to me at this age and it's not over and all of that. But you never know if somebody's crazy. There could be somebody that's unhinged, you know, and you just don't know.

35:51And I didn't know that. I didn't know. So when I am, only when I'm in large crowds, they'll have somebody walk with me. But Chuck goes, we don't need anybody, Leanne I got it And Chuck's a big man He's 6 '4", he's grumpy You know, he's pissed Do you run material by him at all? Like, you're like, is this funny? Is this not, or does he not? No, I don't because Now, he'll say to me, you need to say that Or tell him this, Leanne Like, he'll remember something and say Why don't you tell him that? And he gives me a lot of good material, y 'all Because he's peculiar

36:27Will Arnett:What about your kids? Do your kids think you're funny? It's peculiar. They do. They do, Jason. Do they give it up? But they're annoyed by me, too. Yeah, they do. They'll go, girl, you're funny. But they also think I've gotten kind of diva-ish. Yeah, for sure. Oh, do they? Yeah. Well, they're all grown. They can cook. You know, I get home. I've been on the road. Y 'all are on the road. Y 'all know you get home. You're tired. You're exhausted. You're staring out into space. Could somebody else boil the macaroni? Right. Yeah, yeah. Mom's hammering it. And then when you were, you got, wait, how many kids do you have?

37:11Three. A boy and two girls. Right. And you said babies come first, comedy came third. So what, was that implied that you're second or like what second? Oh, Lord, I don't know. I didn't feel second. What would that be? I mean, being a wife, probably. Did I say that out of my butthole?

37:31Will Arnett:Okay. So it's mom, wife, career. Yes. But now, the kids are out of the house, yes? Mm-hmm. Chuck's doing just fine. He's got a brand new chair that he loves. He can spend all day in that chair now. He's good. And so now, do we get to move a career up to number one now? Yeah, it's number one now, Jason. There we go. And I feel bad because I am the mama. Don't you feel bad? And they do still need me some. But yes, this is taking over everybody. Good. Y 'all know what that is. I live out in L.A. part of the year to shoot, and so I can't be there. And I miss my family so badly. And they come out back and forth to see me, and I'll go home.

38:17But yeah, it's taking over everything.

38:20Will Arnett:So wait, so this is the sitcom you're shooting out here, right? Uh-huh. Now, that schedule, that schedule does free you up quite a bit, doesn't it? That's a real nice schedule. Those sitcoms, the Chuck Lorre world. Oh, mama. Are you doing just four-day weeks over there? No, we do. Well, we do a table read on Monday and then rehearsal Tuesday, Wednesday, and then pre-shoot Thursday and then live audience Friday. Yeah, yeah. Right. Have them slide that table read over to Friday right before you start shooting and you can free up that Monday. Yeah. You can spend more time in Chattanooga. Yeah. Okay?

38:53Will Arnett:There you go. That's not a bad idea. Tell Chuck there's a new plan.

38:56Sean Hayes:Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. God.

38:58Will Arnett:Oh, Lord, y 'all. Do you like—

38:59Sean Hayes:JB, you're going to run into Chuck Lorre, like, today, and he's going to be like, hey, man. I'm driving range. I mean, isn't that kind of so great that you're so used to a live studio audience since you toured all? Oh, that changed everything. It's probably—yeah. It probably relaxes you, no? It does. And I'm telling y 'all, this scared me to death. I had always wanted this. And then you're like, oh, my gosh, why did I wish for this? Because at first it was so stressful. And Kristen Johnston plays my sister, who is a pro. She's great. She's such a pro. And she has to sit and tell me what to do and had to do her job and then teach me.

39:36I was like, what is that? What are y 'all talking about? So at first I was terrified. And Reese Witherspoon said to me, it's the best schedule in television land. It's the best thing you could do. Yeah, it's the best. And we shoot two weeks on, one week on. Two on. as a Chuck Lorre.

39:52Will Arnett:That's the way he wants it. It used to be three. This is very, how great. Now, are you able to cross paths with the great director, Jimmy Burroughs, at all? I have not met him yet, no. And I've heard them say something about him. He's the greatest. I did have Andy Ackerman for an episode. Very good.

40:10Sean Hayes:Very good. And I love him and I'm hoping I get him on some of these this season. I loved him. That was my favorite episode.

40:18Will Arnett:Are you shooting over at Warner Brothers or are you over there at Netflix? lot yeah warner brothers yeah on the friends lot this is i mean on the friend sound stage and do you use is it is it a lot of um do you do you rely on a lot of your own family stories to write stories for the show no not really i mean they they've listened to every podcast read my book watched all my stand-up so it's based on my stand-up but but um i mean they'll get ideas for me, but not, I mean, I've got a really, I've got Nick Bakai. Because when I was reading it, when I was reading about your story, all your family stories are so fucking funny.

40:56Can you say the one about the ski trip and one of your kids getting hurt? Oh, when I fell off the ski lift, are you talking about when I fell off at 49 years old? No, one of your kids, yeah, that, but one of your kids shared a personal observation about themselves. Oh, are you talking about when the baby, who is my makeup artist, who is my true makeup artist on tour, she says now she's my caregiver and she hates that. But she's also my makeup artist on the set at Warner Brothers. She's your youngest kid? The baby, uh-huh, and she's been a booger. I'll just tell y 'all, I'm in love with her. She's funny.

41:38She's so funny. She has been like Chuck Morgan. She's a lot like her daddy, very strong-willed. She's been a lot. And we were in Beaver Creek, Colorado. She was, and I think it was one of the two or three times we had been already. All right, everybody goes off skiing. This baby is on the gondola with me to go up to the bunny slope, which is not far to get up on that. And it's just me and her. And in that short amount of time, she takes all of her clothes off.

42:08Will Arnett:Yeah, she's hot. And, you know, skiing is hard. I've never enjoyed it. Chuck Morgan loves it. It's like I compared it to working in a coal mine. Wow. When I go skiing because I got to get everybody dressed. I got to make lunches for everybody because chicken tenders cost$45 up on that ski mountain. And Chuck Morgan doesn't go for that. But anyway, I said, why are you taking your clothes off? And she said, my butthole itches. You can't get to it through all those layers. You cannot get to it through all those. She took all her clothes off. And let me tell y 'all, I had been doing that on tour. I'd been trying to work out that bit about snow skiing because I hate snow.

42:49I'll go, I'll stare at rich people, but I don't ski anymore. Okay. And she said to me, Mom, can you tell people I was four or five years old? You did not tell them. They think I'm grown. And then I took my clothes off and my bummed off. Right. So then I had to put in there. I thought, oh, my God. So then I started saying, okay, she was four or five years old. and her butthole was itching. But yeah, I've had more people go, oh my gosh, that's no skin. Yeah. Because you know, it's so hard with little children. Oh yeah. Did you, and now, is it true you bring your whole family to some of your Netflix special, you brought your whole family for the first time?

43:26Yes. And what are they, yeah. They came out on the first one. And I just, I don't know, I just naturally thought that was the thing to do. And they'd never seen you do anything like that? No. Yeah. And they were in shock. And then I brought them out on the second one, and each child now introduces me. So Charlie, my oldest, introduced me on the first one, and then Maggie, my middle child, introduced me on the second one. But y 'all won't believe how many people have said, that's so sweet you brought your family out, and we want to see your family because you tell all these stories. And I don't know, it just seemed natural to me to bring them out.

43:59It really wasn't that calculated. I just thought, oh, look at my family. Yeah, we went on tour. I brought my sister out, and the audience just thought it was like, you know, Elvis squawked on stage. we'll be right back

44:13Will Arnett:oh boy you know we talk about closets a lot on this show we sure do kicking the door down coming on out that we're basically talking about that closets are for clothes oh and i've taken that too much to heart because my closet is stuffed i've been meaning to go through my closet round up all of them i should sell it i mean yeah listen you know what feels familiar in my closet may be exactly what someone else is searching for. Buy, sell, and discover affordable secondhand fashion you'll love with the resale marketplace, Depop. Reselling can feel overwhelming, but on Depop, getting started is easy.

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46:30Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby. Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum. Hilton Honors, baby.

46:38Will Arnett:What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you going to do this for all 9 ,000 properties? When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. And back to the show. but doesn't it get a little tricky with the with the with the stories that you i mean perhaps some of them you might need to embellish to trip it into hysteria and then do some of them get a little their nose out of joint those like well you know you always say like that i'm the one that's dirty or that i'm the one that's lazy or the i'm the one that would like do you have to kind of divvy it up evenly so that you don't get a bunch of heat when you get home yeah um you know the The only time anybody's given me any grief over it and said, do not speak my name, when they went through middle school.

47:29Sean Hayes:Right. Middle school, everybody was paranoid and angry and puberty, and I did not, that was a dry time for me. That's the only, and then they got in high school, and they were like, we don't care what you do. And y 'all, I wasn't working that much. I mean, I was working, but it was so pitiful that nobody cared. And then college, you know, they didn't even know who I was. And then now I always say, is this okay? And now they even say to me, Mom, you've never told this story. Tell this one.

47:57Will Arnett:Oh, that's great. So now everybody's in on it, and they're fine. The only time Chuck Morgan ever said to me, don't you ever say that again. It was one of the first times I was on stage. I'll just tell you, boys, I'd breastfed three babies. My breast looked terrible. They had sucked up into my body. They were like a little wadded piece of tissue with a, like in the bottom of a tube sock. And I had life left in me. I had life left in me. And I was 32 years old and I wanted to get my breasts done. And I said, one of the first times I was ever on stage, I said, I want to get my breasts done, but it's been a bad mobile home year.

48:38And Chuck Morgan said to me, don't you ever say that again. You know I can write a check for your breasts today. I've always provided for you, and it hurt his feelings. And so I've never said anything. Well, now I say it on interviews. But now, I mean, after that, I never said it again.

48:58Sean Hayes:I love that Chuck Morgan took issue when you talked about a downturn in the mobile home sales. That was the only thing that bummed him out. You know what I mean? That's so good. What a dude. That's such a dude thing.

49:11Will Arnett:Do you guys currently have a mobile home that you guys like to travel around in? No. These are the kind, Jason, they're not even those. This is the kind that you, a double wide. Have you ever heard of that, my darling? Mm-hmm. This can be like a legit home. Yeah, whether you put it on a foundation. This is one of the largest home builders in the United States.

49:33Sean Hayes:Wow. And he has worked for them for over 30 years. And it is a Warren Buffett company. Yeah. And they've sent us to Cancun. Oh, wow. Yeah, boys. Yeah. Jason, yeah. Jason's been on a couple motorhomes. Who'd you go with, JB? I forget. With the Leif Garrett.

49:55Will Arnett:We went on a nice ski tour. Oh, my Lord. Yeah, there was snow of a different kind. I've got some video of that trip I've got to find. Which I do think an RV would be fun.

50:08Sean Hayes:You had your mountain bikes with you too, didn't you?

50:10Will Arnett:Yeah, up on the roof there. So we could travel from the mobile home lot where we plug in, dump the trash, and then bike into town. Oh, God.

50:21Sean Hayes:Oh, yeah. God. It was good times. So wait, Leanne, you were going to be, is it true you were going to be a therapist at one point? Did you study psychiatry? I did study. I wanted to be a child and family therapist if I didn't make it in Hollywood. Wow. And I love all that. I still love that. I loved my degree and I loved all that. And, you know, I look back on it and I think during COVID when I was wringing my hands and drinking wine and eating a chicken casserole, I should have gotten a master's online. Did you get a degree in psychology? I got it in crisis intervention counseling under child and family studies.

50:56Wow, that's kind of cool. After I went back, y 'all, after I went back and got through all that bad time, then I buckled down and studied.

51:04Will Arnett:and but yeah do you it makes me think like you know you sometimes when you see like um like one of my favorite movies is king of comedy when jerry lewis played a very very sort of severe serious talk show host behind the scenes and and you know comics particularly stand-up comics um always have this exciting darker quiet side do you i start thinking about like this degree you've got and therapy and all that. Do you ever fantasize about playing a role where it's dark and it's quiet and there's sort of this flip side to the character? Do you have acting aspirations like that? I do, Jason. And y 'all would know better than I do if I could even do it.

51:49I bet you'd be great. But I would love to do drama and I would love to do a darker character.

51:53Will Arnett:It'd be great. You can't do what you do without that side being under at all. like we we get we know what you're doing you should you should get you should get after that yeah thank you my darling i would love to i don't know if anybody would take me seriously

52:08Sean Hayes:sure they would be exciting director jason what are we talking about here big time you are you're

52:13Will Arnett:a big time director you are big big big big big you are yeah um but no that would be that would be very cool so you know more exciting even more so now that everyone is so excited and familiar with the flip side of it, and you show them what's behind the curtain, Leanne. I would love that. I love that. Leanne, you said so many little tiny things, like you love doing laundry, which is like, what? Who loves doing laundry? It's therapeutic. And gas station, your favorite gas station snack on tour, because I heard you love grabbing stuff at gas stations, like when you're on tour. What's your classic snack?

52:52Well, honey, we have to. I don't want a boiled egg, but I try to because I don't want my butt to look big on TV. That was a shock, boys. That was a shock. You know what I don't like? Where's my chin?

53:06Will Arnett:I don't like boiled nuts, which you see a lot in the South. Like warm nuts? No, no, no. Boiled. Like they're in a bag, like a wet fricking bag that makes the peanut shell all soft. And sometimes they're a little spicy. And I'm a big peanut fan. And so I tried to get into it over and over again there in Georgia, all the years I've spent there. I just can't get there. But I feel like I might be close. No? No. Don't stop trying? I've never cared about a boiled peanut. Yeah. I try to eat nuts, you know, because they, you know, a handful of nuts. I don't want to get dementia or whatever. But I don't.

53:46Wait, does that help?

53:47Will Arnett:Do nuts help? I think some, like walnuts and brain health. I think so. Omega's something. Omega's in there? But now Chuck Morgan can go to a gas station, make a full meal with boiled eggs because it's cheaper, and relish, and a mayo packet, and make his own egg salad. But being on tour, y 'all know what that is. I'm constantly trying to get in protein because I'm 60, and now everybody yells about women having all that protein, but it's hard on the road. Who's cooking in the house? Does Chuck know how to throw a meal together when mama comes home super tired from all over, just hammering it? He can make do.

54:29Will Arnett:Yeah. Because, y 'all, I was the stay-at-home mom. And even though I was doing stand-up, I cooked every meal. I am a country. I am from the country. We cook. We put everything into these children. I was doing all that and doing everything, you know, because he was trapped. I bet that house always smells so yummy. What's your go-to meal? Fancy folks coming over, and you want to really wow them with how you can make this particular... Oh, y 'all, I don't feel like... I don't feel very fancy, but... No, it doesn't need to be a fancy dish. These people need not be fancy. But something you know you make well.

55:08Will Arnett:Yeah, if you're looking to brag a little bit. I can make a good chicken piccata. Oh, look at that, with the capers? Sure. With the capers, lemon, with a thin chicken breast. I can do that with a little angel hair. There's a lot of water retention on the capers.

55:25Sean Hayes:Is there really? My friend Josh, our friend Josh, he once told me that he ate chicken piccata, I think something like 87 days in a row and a real low point in his life.

55:36Will Arnett:He was looking a little puffy through a few months. Leanne, who's your, outside of your family and Chuck Morgan, who's your best, Who's your friend that makes you laugh the hardest? Or who makes you just gaggle? I tell you, Karen Mills, who is a stand-up, who's been doing it longer than I have, has been my saving grace in this whole thing. Because imagine y 'all, my girlfriends, their husbands are executives. They're out playing tennis. They're all getting you countertops. And I love them. And I love them, but they don't understand the comedy mind. You know, you got to be around other comedians.

56:15And Karen Mills opens for me on tour. Not all the time because she's got her own thing going on. But I can't tell you all how grateful I am to have her. We laugh so hard together. You know, I go back and forth with her about material. And then when we've had, through the years, I had to do a lot of private corporate things because I had three children and couldn't stay gone. And I would do a gig and then call her and say, I'm quitting. That was the worst thing that's ever happened to me. I wish somebody had shot me while I was on stage. And she would call me on the way home from a horrible gig and say, I'm quitting.

56:50I'd go, no, you're not. But we had each other. And, you know, it really helped me to have somebody. Because I'm in Knoxville, Tennessee, and I'm not around in Nashville. I work Zaney's all the time, and my concert promoters are out of Nashville. Nashville's a huge comedy scene now with Nate Bergetzi, John Crist, Theovan, all these people. And I get to be with them, but all these years I was on my own. And this mom, you know, and everybody else was talking about school stuff and stuff that I was involved to with my kids, but I needed somebody that understood what I was going through. Because it's hard.

57:26Stand up is hard. The hardest. You know, and you drive 300 miles and make$50 and all that kind of stuff.

57:33Will Arnett:How do you handle when it's, you were saying like sometimes like some of those gigs, It's just, it's the worst. Somebody shoot me like, how do you handle that when the audience is just not, like they're distracted, they're talking, they're drinking, maybe they're having a meal or whatever. Like, do they ever get nasty? Do you ever feel like, well, fuck this. I'm going to engage with these people and like get after them a little bit or maybe a heckler or something. Does it ever get, does it ever get like not fun and contentious? It's not fun. And there's times when you feel gutted, you know, coming out of the, doing a show for men that make carpet fiber.

58:12But then, but I don't get contentious. No. I don't go there, Jason, because I'm too sissy. If I started, you know, going after somebody, then if they came after me, then I don't, I don't feel, and people have never heckled me. Like, I only get like a drunk woman saying, I got a C-section. You know, I get that kind of stuff. I don't get, you know, people coming after me. And I think it's because I'm a mom and people are, and they can tell I've got a sweet spirit. And they don't want to come after me.

58:42Will Arnett:Yeah, good. Right, right, right. But yeah, some of these corporate things will kill you. What about cursing? Do you ever, there are comics that curse and comics that don't, correct? Isn't there, there's like a, there's a demarcation line there. Yeah. And I don't, and I love, like I'm a huge fan of Dave Chappelle. oh my gosh I love I love all kinds of comedy and I don't care if they cuss I've never done it but I think it's because I started out you know with little children and I didn't want to say anything that I didn't want them to say it's almost funnier without it and it just wasn't in my thing you know but I don't mind it when other people do it but yeah there is kind of there's a line yeah it's like

59:20Sean Hayes:I always love that about Nate too you mentioned Nate Bergazzi who I love and he's such a good dude and he's so funny and he never cusses it's amazing he doesn't huh yeah Shut up. No, I don't know. I don't know. No, he doesn't. He doesn't. Leanne, we're going to do some rapid fire, and then I'm going to ask you one last question. Okay, ready? Okay, my darling. Here's rapid fire. Is it a new section? We're doing a new section?

59:41Will Arnett:Yeah. Do we need, like, some sting music to teal up? I love this. Sure. We're going to do a little sting music. Rob, Rob, drop us up. Sean's rapid fire section. There's only, like, five of them. Ready? Sweet tea or bourbon? I'd even say bourbon. I love that. Jello salad or banana pudding? Banana pudding. Country music concert or arena rock show? Or what kind of rock show? Like a big arena rock show. Arena rock show. Like the journey to everything. I'd probably go for a rock show. Oh, wow. Live studio audience or on location or like touring or something? Live studio audience. How about that? Early bird or night owl?

1:00:23Early bird. Oh, wow. Pizza or barbecue ribs? Pizza. Pancakes or bacon? Pancakes. Levi's or Lycra? Levi's. What? I answered all of them the same.

1:00:37Sean Hayes:Sean's just listing all the stuff that's in front of him right now, by the way. He's just looking at stuff in his room.

1:00:45Sean Hayes:Pizza and ribs, Lycra and jeans. He's just looking at shit that's in his view. There's an open box of pizza in the corner. Banana pudding. He's like, I'm going to get after that banana pudding. Leanne, I want to leave you with the first of all, this has been so great. I just want you to say, you know, you said your message is over and over again is about women of a certain age, as you said. It's not over for us. What does that mean? What would you tell your younger self about that? Growing up, by the way, we didn't even talk about you moving to a town called Bean Station. But anyway, Bean Station.

1:01:20I just, I'll go right, y 'all. Being in Hollywood with these young girls that are, and these actresses. First of all, if I'd have moved to Hollywood at 20, I'd be on dope. Let me say that. I don't know how they've done it. I think, you know, because I'm 60 years old and I'm who I am, that I'm able to handle all this. But I tell young women all the time because they all think, and I remember feeling at 30, like I'm old and 40, it's over. And I feel like I'm smarter than I've ever been. I'm better at my craft. It took me 20 years to figure out how to do this.

1:01:54Sean Hayes:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just think it makes sense when people make it big. Like Bill Burr, I heard him in an interview say, it took me 20 years I couldn't sell tickets. I couldn't do anything. And it was a slow build. But who I am and why it's happening to me, you know, all this has happened to me at this age. I just think it's crazy to think that, And I know y 'all have been big deals since y 'all were young. And that's wonderful. Not true. And y 'all have given so much joy to all of us. But I do think there's something about honing a craft and—

1:02:29Will Arnett:And learn, like you said, learn. At 60, you know three times as much as a 20-year-old. That's right. And so that informs the things you can access when you're talking about funny shit. It just makes so much more sense. Agreed. I'm still doing the multiplication after Jason just said that. Yeah, it's also a privilege to get older, you know, because the only other choice is dying. I know. It's like you want to get as old as possible because if you don't, you die. You're dead. That's your choice. Those are your choices. Bring the wrinkles on. That's why eating those two cakes and that stretched out tankini swim skirt meant the world to me.

1:03:11I thought 60 was going to be rough on me. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'm so thankful to have my health and I'm having the time of my life. This is crazy what's happened to me. It's like winning the lottery. It's like God put down at the carnival and picked up one of those little ducks and said, it's you, girl. 60's the new 40. You know, I just feel so blessed by all of it.

1:03:34Will Arnett:You're doing it real well. And this has been an enormous pleasure. Thank you.

1:03:38Sean Hayes:Sean, be honest. Be honest. did it make you think about getting a cake today? 100 % I just wrote it down. You did. And I put a two next to it. Leanne, you are, you can see why you made it. You're just an absolute unbelievable joy. I'm more, Leanne. All your success is so deserved. It's so awesome to talk with you. Thanks for talking to us today. Thank you all. I'm in love with all three of y 'all. Back at you. Y 'all are darnling. Y 'all have given so much joy. I hope y 'all know that to all of us people out here in the middle of the United States.

1:04:12Will Arnett:Let us know when you're going to do a set out here in Los Angeles. I'm going to come. Okay, I will. I'll be working on that new hour, Jason. Come on. All right, you angel. You angel. Thank you for this today. Thank you, my love. Have a great rest of your day, Leanne. Thank you, Leanne. Thank you. Bye, bye, bye. Bye. See you. Bye-bye.

1:04:35Sean Hayes:Sheldon, what a great guest. I know. She was great. You know, Scotty loves her. Lives for her. And I do too. But I mean, he's seen every single thing she's ever done. Scotty turned you on to her? Yeah. And I was like, wow, she is really funny. She's really funny. I can hear her talking about Chuck Morgan all day. I know. I want to see him. He comes up a lot. He's so fun. He's got to come out on stage. Wouldn't that be fun? I want to talk to that guy. Book him. All right, book him. Don't shout it. Don't shout orders at me. Hey, are you going to bring a cake over tonight? Do you want me to?

1:05:08Will Arnett:Yeah, or a pie. Why don't you go get ours? I'll go get a Sweet Lady Jane's pie, or a cake or something. Or a Winston's pie. Will you really eat it if I get it? If you get a Winston's pie, I'm going to eat the hell out of it. They're okay. You're not a pie guy? You're more of a cake guy? Yeah, pie. I don't understand pie. It's just fruit shoved into pastry. All right, well, then bring a cake. Yeah. Yeah.

1:05:29Sean Hayes:That I understand.

1:05:30Will Arnett:What are we watching?

1:05:32Sean Hayes:You said.

1:05:33Will Arnett:Oh, right, right, right, right.

1:05:34Sean Hayes:Are you guys getting together tonight?

1:05:36Will Arnett:Yeah, it's movie night.

1:05:37Sean Hayes:Let's watch a movie. Come on.

1:05:39Will Arnett:Now, Will, aren't you supposed to come home for a week and then go back to Long Island? Yeah. Is that going to happen?

1:05:47Sean Hayes:I'm coming back Friday.

1:05:50Will Arnett:For?

1:05:51Sean Hayes:A week, eight days. Yeah.

1:05:55Will Arnett:Wait, really? Is there any way that you can free up for some hangout with Danny D's on Sunday morning?

1:06:03Sean Hayes:No, I can't Sunday.

1:06:05Will Arnett:God damn it.

1:06:06Sean Hayes:I know.

1:06:06Will Arnett:What about Saturday morning with me?

1:06:09Sean Hayes:Saturday. Oh, that's sweet. No, I can't.

1:06:13Will Arnett:Because I got that thing that you can't do Saturday afternoon

1:06:16Sean Hayes:that you said that you can't do.

1:06:17Will Arnett:I can't. That's why I'm going to cram in the ground in the morning. I can't.

1:06:20Sean Hayes:Because I have other shit I'm going to do after. I don't think you're going through your schedule right now. I know.

1:06:24Will Arnett:Wait, are we still rolling?

1:06:26Sean Hayes:Yeah. Damn it.

1:06:27Will Arnett:Well, hey, what about that Leanne Morgan? I know.

1:06:30Sean Hayes:I know.

1:06:31Will Arnett:Oh, she was an absolute delight. delight. She's a delight. I mean, maybe late Sunday afternoon.

1:06:38Sean Hayes:Sorry, yes, Leanne Morgan. You know, I must say, Willie, you are gone for a long, long time with this junk and this incredible movie that you're in. I can't wait for everybody to see you in it. When do you think you're, when will you be done? Bye. Bye.

1:06:58Will Arnett:Love you all. Bye.

1:07:01Sean Hayes:Smart. Nice.

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