"Macaulay Culkin"

9:15Sean Hayes:They had to close it down for health reasons, but fill in the blank. By the way, gross title. Yeah. Are you guys going to meet at fill in the blank later? Our guest. Dollar drinks at fill in the blank. Our guest has been active in the film business for many years, dare I say, most of his life. And not just adult life, most of his life life. So Jason, this is gonna be somebody that you can identify with. This is Kurt Russell. But this is somebody who's been doing it for so long and who reached such incredible heights of fame as a young person and has continued to work throughout. It's been incredible.

9:58Sean Hayes:Started in films like Rocket Gibraltar, Born on the Fourth of July. then movies started to have more success in bigger roles in movies like Uncle Buck Jacob's Ladder and then absolutely went through the stratosphere with Home Alone Home Alone 2 Richie Rich and then it's it's Macaulay Culkin Macaulay was out welcome to the show you were on my list as well oh my god this is so cool

10:24Will Arnett:he's appropriately dressed in smartless PJs oh yes yes of course yes Macaulay I'm so sorry I was late so many apologies I'm never no it's too late for that

10:33Sean Hayes:he just no I mean just Taylor when Taylor gets going and then just forget it you know what I mean yeah just let her off the leash I swear can't even I don't know if you heard about Ed Sheeran but it's so mysterious Macaulay Macaulay Culkin my golly where are we finding you today I'm in I'm in Los Angeles yeah yeah oh what part I live in Toluca Lake oh you love it

10:56Will Arnett:I've done a lot of time there yeah I like how you like make it sound like a prison you know yeah no I spent a lot of time there. Yeah, I love it there. They got one of the greatest golf clubs in all of America there at Lakeside. Yeah. Do you golf, Macaulay? No, no, but I'm investing in a golf cart. You know, we'll put it that way. So you can tool around the neighborhood? Yeah, pretty much. For real? Yeah, you know, because you got a Jones. You know, everyone has a golf cart, so you're not going to have a Jones.

11:22Sean Hayes:By the way, you know what's interesting, Sean? I was going to say, Macaulay, what's interesting is that you're an Angelino now, perhaps. You live in Los Angeles, but you're a New Yorker. And yet you played a character who's so closely identified with Chicago. Yes. So you've kind of really covered the whole country. You belong to America. Yeah. That's well put, yes. But I love how a New Yorker is like a Chicago, like, you know, they love me there. I swear to God, I do gangbusters over there. Do you? In Chicago? In Chicago? Yeah, in Chicago. Yeah, Sean, hang on, Sean, Sean, hang on. We just said Chicago.

11:57Will Arnett:Sean's also done some time there. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Do you want to just get it over with and then we can move on to other things? Yeah. So when I was a kid and I was in high school, John Hughes was making all of his movies in, as you know, in and around Chicago. I remember, yes. Right, yes, of course you remember. He's very old. I was there. So it was wild to, I've said this before, it was wild to grow up in the town where he was making the movies. And then when I'm in high school, those movies came out about high school. So it was all encompassed, John Hughes, all the time, all around Chicago.

12:30Sean Hayes:Sean, who did you identify with? Is it Ducky? By the way, I got called Ducky all the time. All the time. I did because I dressed like him and everything. Yeah.

12:41Will Arnett:Did you ever see them shooting around the neighborhood, Sean? You ever see the trucks? No, but Lucas, you know, was filmed in my high school. And if you remember that movie, Lucas, anybody? Yes. Sheen and, yeah, yeah. Charlie Sheen. Corey Haim, yeah, one of the writers' first film.

12:56Sean Hayes:That was a great little movie, actually. I like that. I was an extra. I was like 14 years old. Anyway, who cares?

13:02Will Arnett:Did you sit in background holding? Mm-hmm. On a fold-out? Were you late to that? And that little boy. Did you sleep through that? That nobody wanted. That's right. That's right.

13:14Sean Hayes:Macaulay Culkin, by the way, are you excited? Jason, what I thought you were going to say is, are you excited for the release, because we're going to talk about it later, of Zootopia 2? Yes, very much so. Yes. Me and Brenda are taking a bite of the forbidden fruit. We're playing brother and sister. Meow. Oh, boy. Wait, who is? Me and my lady, yeah. Oh. Yeah, so yeah, yeah. I'm going to be at the premiere.

13:36Will Arnett:Now, what animal is your character? We are playing cats. That meow is literal, yeah. Oh, my God.

13:44Sean Hayes:Jason, what are you? Jason, you're a fox, right? Thanks, man. You had that one in the chamber. Wait, Macaulay, you're in Zootopia, and Jason, you didn't know which character he was? To be honest, had no idea Macaulay was in it. Yeah, yeah. No, are you kidding me? This is animation. Nobody meets anybody.

14:03Will Arnett:They don't let anybody know anything. Willie, tell them I'm wrong. I honestly don't even know what the film is about. I didn't know what the first film was about. I didn't know until I saw it.

14:14Sean Hayes:I have had those moments. This is so embarrassing. But like Jason, where somebody goes, hey. You run into someone. They go, hey, we're doing the thing. And you go, no way. By the way, this is when it's done. This is not going into it.

14:28Will Arnett:It's typical of animation. It's done. Every siloed. Yeah, you record your scenes a la carte over the period of a couple of years.

14:37Sean Hayes:Had you done a bunch of animated stuff, Macaulay, before? Yeah, yeah. Back in the early 90s, like everyone else, I had a Saturday morning cartoon. I remember they gave one to Roseanne Barr, John Candy at Camp Candy. They had Bobby's World, Howie Mandel. That's right. Louis Anderson had his own Saturday morning cartoon. That's right. Give it away like candy.

15:02Will Arnett:Saturday morning cartoons, you guys, was everything for me when I was growing up.

15:06Sean Hayes:Me too. Me too, man. I love that. It was so, we're a little bit older than you are, Macaulay, but you probably also remember that feeling of the Saturday morning cartoon. Oh, heck yeah. No, look forward to it. I'm raising my kids with like Saturday morning cartoons. Like it's like, yeah, it's just on YouTube now. But like, yeah, it's a thing. Exactly. It's just on YouTube. And what was great about it back then was that you only got it on Saturday. So it just wasn't available 24-7. So it felt really special. It was appointment television. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wait, all right. So Macaulay, we're going to roll it all the way back like we like to do.

15:38Sean Hayes:We're going to get right to the beginning because you did start, like I said, when you were, as a lot of people know, that you started very young acting. And not unlike our friend Jason Bateman. And what was the age at which you decided or you and your family decided, like, I'm going to do this? Was this predetermined or were you... Did you seek it? What was the thing that started that said, hey, we should do this? It was actually, it was my father. He was going to take my older brother and sister and he was going to take, like, headshots of them in the park. And then my mom was kind of just like, oh, just take Mac with you.

16:20I think she just wanted a break. Right. Yeah, I just started booking right away. I started out-earning everyone else pretty fast. Wow. Through commercials and stuff, you mean? You know, it was more, I did Black Box Theater in Manhattan, and I got written up for that. And then, honestly, I jumped pretty much straight to film. I did a couple of commercials here and there, but literally out of the gate. It was Black Box Theater and then cinema.

16:44Sean Hayes:So am I right that Rocket Gibraltar was your first film? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was actually, Burt Lancaster is one of his last movies. Wow. And they hired a bunch of New York stage actors and I was a, you know, stage actor. And it was like, who's like Bill Pullman, Patricia Clarkson. Wow. Spacey was in it and stuff like that. Uh-oh, yeah. All right. What? I didn't. I'm just saying, uh-oh. What was your, what was your, what was that life you first experienced on a film set? How old were you? Did you remember? I was six. Wow. Yeah. No, honestly, it was, I just knew whatever, memorize your lines, don't look in the camera, you know, find your light, hit your marks, things like that.

17:22It was pretty straightforward for me. Yeah, but Sean's still trying to nail that down. No, but that's what blows my mind when young kids like yourself and how do they know to do that? Like, there's so many kids that can't do that.

17:36Sean Hayes:Did your parents give you that? Yeah. I mean, yeah, pretty much, you know, like, you know, when you're a kid, you're a fast learner. And wasn't the draw,

17:45Will Arnett:was the draw the same for you as it was for me? It was just like, basically, I get to skip school. That's all I was looking at. You know, as it went on, for me, as it went on, it was actually the opposite. Because I was always away, and I didn't like, and you have to remember, a lot of my work, when I was, you know, pretty much when I was younger, I never worked with people my own age. I was always working with adults. So like, yeah. So if anything, I kind of had a yearning to like, go to school, to like, you know, have contemporaries and things like that. And did you ever? Yeah, once I quit. I quit when I was 14.

18:16Yeah. Quit for like nearly a decade. And yeah, no, just went to school, went to high school, you know. Fell in love, got, you know. What was that like? Got drunk for the first time, things like that.

18:28Sean Hayes:What was that like? I mean, because you had, as I pointed out, we all know you had incredible success. First of all, Uncle Buck is just an absolute gem of a film. It holds up. I watch it like once a year. It kills me. You have great taste. And I know you were part of that John Candy documentary, too, about, right? Yeah, that was lovely. It really was a good tribute to him. It really did him justice. They were trying to track me down for a while, and I just kind of kept on just going, yeah, I'll get around to it, and just never did. And then finally, yeah, finally they tracked me down on the carpet when they did the premiere.

19:04I talked to Colin Hanks. He was the one who directed it. And I said, who was harder to track down, me or Bill Murray? He goes, you. He didn't even blink.

19:11Sean Hayes:wow so what was John Candy like because I've always just that guy to me is just such a giant yeah no he was sweet he was very giving you know they always say don't work with kids or animals you know but you know he was actually really good with me yes he was very sweet I did I did three films with him because he was also in Home Alone and also I had a brief part in Only the Lonely oh yeah yeah

19:37Will Arnett:Now, Macaulay, when you took your 10-year hiatus, was there an expectation that your spot would be held for you in line? Or were you at that point where you're like, I don't really care if I come back to this industry. I was done skis. I was done. I was like, I hope you all made your money because there's no more coming from me. I made my name. I made my mark. I made my fortune. The only reason why I even do it now is because I like to do it. It's a pay, pleasure, prestige. That's the only reason to do a gig. Technically, I'm retired right now. I retire, and then if I find something I like, I un-retire, do that, and I immediately retire afterward.

20:22Every gig is my last.

20:24Sean Hayes:Sean just acts like he's retired. He's not retired, but he just sleeps in. He does whatever he wants. is what.

20:31Will Arnett:When you were not acting and you were going through high school and then hitting the college years, was there a thought to study a different industry? Was there an interest pull anywhere? Not necessarily. You know, I was kind of just drifting around and trying to figure out kind of what I wanted out of life and so forth. And I mean, listen, this was a calling that found me. I didn't find it. And so I wanted to explore that in a different kind of way on my terms. Right, well, talk about that because I went through a very similar thing where it was just like, well, I'm young enough to really start over and at something that I can sort of drive a little bit more.

21:07Will Arnett:I can have much more say in my longevity and my relevance and my access in any other career, any other occupation, any other industry. Did you want to do something else, JB? I did. I desperately wanted to do something that I could count on, that I wasn't so nervous about maintaining employment in. And so, you know, I got another job before I ever fully went into, you know, studying something else. But was that a part of your thinking at all, Macaulay? Was there – tell us about that, about just thinking about going forward and providing. I mean, I was in a position where I could just put my thumb up my butt and play video games all day long.

21:52I could do anything I wanted, really.

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24:44Sean Hayes:Hilton for the stay. And now back to the show. So, Macaulay, but you know, it's funny. you used the expression, you said, you know, there's no more money to be made off me or something like that, which I wonder, like when you did quit and you were 14, was there a sense of like that you had, was there a sense of resentment towards people who had made money off you in a way? No, no, I mean, I got the lion's share of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but it was also, it was kind of a rat race. Like it was, I remember when I stopped having fun I wanted to take a break, and I said I was getting really taxed.

25:27And I just kind of want to do a semester of school, that kind of thing. And I was not heard, and that was something that really affected me and affected my work and stuff like that. And then it was just like, oh, I'm on the hamster wheel, and I can't get off. And so once I had some autonomy and some agency in my life, I grabbed it with both hands.

25:49Sean Hayes:But that's a big burden for a kid of 14. First of all, it's kind of a big realization for a kid of 14 to be able to actually listen to yourself and go, hey, this doesn't feel great. And the people that I'm trusting, I'm trying to tell people this is how I feel. And they're not necessarily recognizing that. There's got to be, I can imagine, I can only sort of try to imagine how I would feel if I felt like there must be a frustration in there a little bit. By the way, I'm not trying to push you into a position. I'm just curious. No, no, no. I mean, I was definitely frustrated. Like, yeah. And it was, again, it was kind of just like, yeah, once I had the chance to get off, it was like, cool.

26:30And I said, I'll just figure it all out later. You know, yeah. I'll just, you know, that's kind of what I did.

26:34Will Arnett:And I imagine that were you like other child actors, myself included, was it the inevitability of your parents being your manager? Was that the case in your life as well? Yeah, yeah. I had a pretty acrimonious relationship with my father, famously so. As soon as I was able to push him out, my quality of life on the day-to-day level definitely went up. Right, gotcha. I had a very complicated relationship with that as well. Certainly, as you get older, in retrospect, it becomes even more complicated as you become a parent and you start to think about the decisions that they make about being an employee in your life and how that adjusts the dynamic of how you look at your parents as what should be sort of your North Star, the person that you follow, when instead they now create a dynamic where you're the boss at an age when you're kind of needing parental guidance.

27:31Yeah, and that's where their bread is buttered. Yeah, it's really complicated,

27:35Will Arnett:but I think you look to be on the other side of that very healthily. I hope I am too.

27:40Sean Hayes:But JB, you pointed out before this idea, Macaulay, I don't know if you had this, but this has always stuck with me, JB, and I think about it from time to time. Truly, I do. I remember you saying you had to keep your grades up in order to keep working, right? By law. Every six months, yeah. And so there was a pressure to keep your grades up so that you could work, so that you could pay the bills because you were the bedwinner, right?

28:05Will Arnett:Yeah, every six months, it was a grading period. You had to maintain a C average or you lose your work permit. And so whatever job you're on, you would be fired immediately. And so all the crew members go out of work. All the network gets upset. Fuck me. And you're a kid. Yeah. So midterms and finals, when you're doing a test that affects your grade by like 60 or 70%, it's just like earth-shattering pressure. Right.

28:32Sean Hayes:Did you have that? Did you experience that, McCauley? Not really. I was a fairly good student. I had a pretty great onset tutor. Okay. And, yeah, she was very sympathetic to me and just when it came to, like, she could tell when I was tired or burnt out or something like that.

28:49Will Arnett:If you're having trouble answering any questions, just whisper it to you. Yeah. No, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that, you know. But, yeah, she definitely, like, would lay off me. Like, she'd see me having burnt out. Y 'all just give me a wink if you don't know this one. No, she'd, like, read me, like, The Outsiders or something like that. Just like, hey, just lay down. I'm going to read it to you, kind of thing. Yeah, things like that. Like, you know, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty great. You just rest your head against my shoulder. Where is this? Jay Golden Pony Boy, get over here. Wow.

29:22Sean Hayes:That is hysterical. Well, I mean, by the way, so then what we're also not addressing is the fact, so you decide at 14, you're like, look, I need a break. I kind of want to shift gears here. I don't know if I want to do this anymore. Huge shift. and compounded by the fact that you're about as famous a person there is on the planet at this point. Yeah. Still to this day. To this day, of course. But I'm saying that at 14. Yeah, it was difficult, tricky waters to maneuver through and stuff like that because you don't necessarily have the actual or emotional vocabulary to really kind of, you know, maneuver through those waters.

29:58And I always kind of thought of myself as a peerless person. Like I couldn't turn left and right, like, you know, and go, oh, you're like me. It was a very unique experience.

30:07Sean Hayes:Yeah. And so, yeah, it was, you know, I kind of had to just figure it out on my own for a big chunk of it. Yeah, I was going to say, how have you adjusted, if at all, how you are in public going to anywhere? Do you feel like you have to kind of compromise yourself and go, God, here we go? I definitely have to gird myself, you know, for outings and so forth. Right. I just set certain ground rules for myself. Like, you know, just, yeah, like don't approach me when I'm at the dinner table. I don't like that, you know. Don't approach me when I'm with my kids. Definitely don't follow me to the bathroom, you know, things like that.

30:47And I just realized that I'm in charge of the social contract. I'm in charge of the interaction.

30:53Will Arnett:Sean, what are you scratching off? On what list? What are you doing?

30:56Sean Hayes:What are you talking about? Oh. I'm looking at a whip. No bathroom. Sean drops a lot of notes that say, please follow me to the bathroom. Yeah. With an arrow. So then there you are. So then there you are. And now you take a decade off or whatever it was, a huge chunk of time. What's the moment where you go, I want to go back? You know, you kind of get to like the end of high school and you're kind of just like, oh, what am I going to do with my life? You know, again, I could kind of do whatever I wanted. And, you know, there was that kind of thought where, like I said, this was something that found me.

31:30I didn't find it. Let me see. Let me try this on for size a little bit. So when I was about 20 or so, 2021, I went to London, did a play there for a year, brought it back to the States. That was fun. It was successful. And then, you know, jumped in, did Party Monster. Then I did Save. What play was it? It was called Madame Melville. Oh, nice. Was it at the Barbican? The vaudeville theater on the Strand. Sorry, Jason had a question.

31:57Sean Hayes:Nothing. That's okay.

31:59Will Arnett:Was there ever a thought to go to college at all to study a different career? Not necessarily, no. Like I said, I mean, unless I had like a focus on something, I didn't really see the point of it. Like just get a degree in general. Right, yeah. If I wanted to be like, you know, wanted to study like English literature or something like that, yeah, that would make sense. You know what I mean? But I didn't have that necessarily, that kind of bone in my body. So, yeah, I kind of just, although I did kind of, I semi-regret it because I remember visiting friends at college. I go, oh, that looks like fun.

32:29Right, right, right. But again, it would have been purely social, really. It's like, yeah, I'm paying all that money to be social with people.

32:35Will Arnett:Was social life enough outside of college to pacify that curiosity? Yeah, no, definitely. You know, yeah, I've had good groups of friends and so forth. You know, yeah.

32:47Sean Hayes:Oh, I thought, Jason, you were saying, did you party?

32:50Will Arnett:well basically yes well i mean i'm looking at my daughter um at college right now and just like it just this looks like so much damn fun i mean i definitely had fun without college but my god that the whole sort of and then because it's like this great counterbalance so like once you kind of sober up and you get past your hang on every you do want to kind of balance it with something i didn't have that opportunity with college you can go listen to some incredible professor give a lecture on something and you can kind of bathe yourself with something that's highbrow. I don't know. It would have been a good thing for me.

33:27You sound so wistful. I know. All I had was Charlie Rose and New York Times to sort of bathe myself. Macaulay, did you ever guest star in a sitcom or anything? Yeah, it's funny. There was one long time ago. Jeez, I can't remember the name of it. Will and Grace. Yeah, I did an episode of Will and Grace. Yeah, that was great. You're fantastic. Oh, thanks. Yeah, yeah. No, I remember you were talking about how you talked about Nancy Klumsky. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You were like, I know Nancy. I know Nancy and Anna. Wait, oh, that's right because of that. And you were like, you did an impersonation of her.

34:01I was like, that was spot on. I haven't seen her in like 15 years. But I was like, yeah, you pinged me. That's right. Very good. Of Anna's mom, Nancy. Wait, because you were in My Girl. Yes, we were in My Girl together. Yeah, and Anna and I grew up in Chicago. Yeah, I don't know what it's all. Everybody's connected as well. Yeah, it's a small town, really. You were great. You were great on the show. It was fun, yeah. I mostly worked with Megan and stuff, but that was fun. To be fair, also, I didn't know what I was walking into. I'd never seen an episode in my whole life. That's fine, me neither.

34:28Yeah, exactly.

34:30Sean Hayes:These guys haven't either. So, McCollum, so you take the break, you come back, you do theater, you come back to New York, and then you do Party Monster. And I remember that was kind of like your big return. That's great. It was like a big Sundance hit, right? It was like a... Yeah, it was, yeah. It's kind of what I wanted. I was like, oh, Sundance looks cool. I want to do something with Sundancey and stuff. It was based on a true story. The book was really good. It was just like, yeah, it was kind of left of center kind of material. I didn't want to just jump into studio fair, really. And did you feel satisfied once you did that?

35:06Sean Hayes:Not satisfied in terms of like I'm good forever, but did you feel like, okay, I'm doing the right thing here. I'm back. I'm kind of driving my own train here a little bit now. Yeah, definitely. It was nice to try those boots on for size. And kind of, again, having some autonomy, like I said, in agency, where I was kind of like, oh, this is what I want to do. And yeah, it was a ton of fun. It was very different, because I was doing all these really expensive studio gigs, and next thing you know, we're kind of guerrilla filming in Times Square, waiting for the police patrol to go by so that we could film, and then got to wait again.

35:42and like, you know, Seth Green's dressed like a pork chop. I'm wearing just nothing but like, you know, just like a feather boa as an entire outfit. Yeah. It's great. Great movie. And it was. It was a great movie. What's the funny? What are you laughing at, Jason?

35:58Will Arnett:I'm going to call it, I was wearing a feather boa. It's a complete outfit. Sean's like, yeah, yeah. I love that movie. I do. I love that movie. It was so good.

36:06Sean Hayes:Sean just woke up. Sean's very raw. He just woke up. Wait. So wait. So Brenda, right? Is her name Brenda? Yeah, yeah, Brenda. Yeah, my lady. Yeah, is she... Forgive me. That's your wife? Yeah, we're actually... We're unwed interracial couples. So, yeah, we check all the boxes when it comes to...

36:24Will Arnett:Well, but wait, so then you haven't slept together. Yeah, oh, yeah, well, I mean... No, no, Jason, Jason. Only twice, really, you know. Wait a second. I am the maker of men. There goes heaven. Oh, look at those kids. Oh, my God. Two boys? Am I guessing right? I'm the maker of men. Oh, wait, let me see it again. Let me see it again. No, you have to tap it again. I'm not dark. yeah face ID look at those things oh look at that that's great

36:46Sean Hayes:I can't wear a double breasted jacket yeah no they're too boxy on me you ever try rocking a mohawk too nah they're too boxy on me um

36:55Will Arnett:alright so where when when did when did you meet your your your baby mama yeah yeah uh we did a film together in Thailand I went all the way to Thailand to meet a Thai girl from Sacramento uh and uh yeah um yeah and then we kind of met there we didn't have any scenes together but we had a lot of free time, let's put it that way. Yeah, and I think especially she was looking at, oh, this is going to be a fling. And I think we both were like fling, you know, yeah. And she's like, I never had a fling before. And yeah, we got back to the States and we kept it going. And you know, yeah. How long has that been?

37:29About eight and a half years now, yeah. Oh, wow. Very cool. Yeah, yeah. We'll get married someday, you know. I mean, it's funny because she wanted me to propose. She wanted to get married. And so finally I put a ring on it, and now she's in no hurry to get married. I'm like, wait a second.

37:45Will Arnett:So you're engaged, perpetually engaged? Yeah, it's been, she's about four years almost on the dot. We got engaged on Christmas of 2021. All right, now how do you like being a dad? I mean, considering the incredibly colorful childhood you had, are you enjoying having that role now? Yeah, yeah. No, I absolutely love it. You know, yeah. Right? It's a little, it was strange because it's, I didn't really have a lot of, I'm kind of reinventing the wheel. Let's put it that way. I didn't really have any good role models. You know, my father was a goddamn piece of work. Right. And it was completely untraditional, non-traditional.

38:28Will Arnett:It was scary. It was absolutely scary. Yeah. And, yeah, like I said, like my, you know, like what a proper family was really, it was more, you know, it was like watching something like, you know, growing pains or family ties or something like that. Because I definitely did not have a conventional family.

38:50Sean Hayes:And how many of your siblings, sorry. Oh, I'm third of seven kids. My mother did not have a family. She had a litter, a litter of Culkin's. Wow.

38:58Will Arnett:Sorry. Wow. Seven. So do you guys run a very then traditional house? Like is there Sunday dinners and yeah? Yeah, I mean, we definitely wear matching pajamas. That's cool. And yeah, no, they have a more structured life than I did. Mine was kind of more freewheeling, kind of, you know, like a - It makes you want to be a better dad, right? Indeed, indeed. You know, again, that's the whole thing. I don't want the sins of my father being passed on to my kids. Right, right, right. So yeah, you know, so yeah.

39:25Sean Hayes:And are you, so are you close to your family, your family of origin, like your siblings? A little bit. I mean, yeah, I keep in touch, but they're all East Coast. None of them have ever lived outside of New York City. I've lived all over the place and stuff. So I'm 3 ,000 miles away. So I don't see them as often. I touch base, things like that, you know, Merry Christmas, Happy Thanksgiving. How many of them are performers? I know that your brother Kieran's an actor, of course. Yeah, no, I'm very proud of him. Between me and him, we have exactly one Oscar. That's good. That's really good. And my brother Rory, he works a lot too.

40:06He actually works more than me and Kieran combined. He's just doing a bunch of indies and stuff. He's always moving.

40:10Will Arnett:Is it nice to be able to reach out to a sibling and discuss the oddities of this business? I know I enjoy that sometimes with my sister. No, we don't really, honestly, we don't really talk shop. You know, yeah, we were kind of a, I mean, occasionally you kind of touch base on it kind of thing. But it's like, you know, like, you know, just because you're both mailmen doesn't mean you want to talk about the mail. You know, that kind of thing. Is your wife still acting? Oh, yeah, no, she's always swimming. She's always moving forward. She's on that show, Running Point. She just finished season two last week.

40:42Sean Hayes:Oh, wow. And she's working on two films in January and March and stuff. Like, yeah, she books. She likes it. She likes the pursuit. I don't really like the pursuit. I like the work itself. She likes the whole package. She loves auditioning. I freaking hate it. Like things like that. Oh, me too.

40:59Will Arnett:Oh, so she's a bit of a masochist then, huh? Yes, yes, indeed. But listen, God bless her because she knew what she wanted out of life and she knew what to pursue and she pursues it to her fullest, which is very admirable. But yeah, for me, I'm kind of just, I'm kind of more of a, like she's a shark. She has to keep swimming or she drowns. I'm more of a kind of a feeder fish. I kind of let things sieve through me kind of thing. Well, but Macaulay, you sound so – I don't mean to press you on this. I'm purely curious because we come from some similar backgrounds. But I'm so in awe of your contentment.

41:44Will Arnett:Like it seems like you – I'll take it if it comes. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm not particularly obsessed or drawn to any one particular thing. There's no, there's, in other words, are you, do you have anything that like, I've got to get this done before I die? Not necessarily. I mean, at least when it comes to like my work and things like that, it's like, you know, gosh, I mean, you know, I practically just, sometimes I used to do like general meetings, like for a living kind of thing. You know, they want, they want a silver bullet idea. You know what I mean? They want, oh, like they want me to walk in.

42:13They go, I want to play a doctor, but a kooky one, you know, I want to play a quarterback, you know. I don't really have that. I let things kind of come to me. It's the old, you know, was the case before the Supreme Court. They were like, they tried to define what pornography was. And pornography, the definition of it, according to the Supreme Court, is I know it when I see it. So it's literally what he said. So I'll know it when I see it. I treat it like pornography, pretty much is what I'm trying to say. Sure, sure.

42:42Will Arnett:But acting is a thing that you're interested in pursuing at this moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. I'm on the new show Fallout or I'm doing season two of that and so we're doing that earlier in the year and stuff but yeah, here's the thing is that you can't get caught in the rat race you could win an Oscar and you're backstage and you're doing the press conference and you're holding your trophy, you're at the top of your game and you know what they ask you? What are you doing next? As if it's not good enough I don't buy into that Think about all the people that have won Oscars even been nominated and there's just nothing that comes afterwards that's not the thing And that's why I'm asking.

43:19Will Arnett:It's like you couldn't ever be more famous than you are now. And so it's clearly not fame or money that you're – are you interested in literally just playing different people, like the whole literal thing that an actor does? Is that interesting to you? Like are you fascinated by different kinds of people? Yeah. I like the adventure of crawling into different shoes and things like that. And it's something that's kind of like just – it comes pretty naturally to me and so forth. I mean, I've had a director, he was like, how could, he goes, are you doing that on purpose? I'm like, what? He goes, you walk different when I call action.

43:54And I'm like, no, I just do it. Like, you know what I mean? I don't practice it in the mirror and stuff like that. I kind of like just kind of wrap myself up in some of these things and kind of just not thinking, make it reflexive. I looked on your Instagram. I saw that you were in Vegas. Do you like Las Vegas? I love Las Vegas. I know. I did convince Brenda. She was like, oh, I don't like gambling and stuff. I go, no, no, the food's great. And, you know, the shows are cool and stuff. And now I got her at the tables, though. Now she's a blackjack player. It's the best. Is that your game? Yeah, play blackjack.

44:22Sometimes I'll go a little on roulette and so forth. But I don't play craps. God doesn't play dice. So neither do I.

44:29Sean Hayes:Sean, I've been to Vegas with Sean before. If you didn't pull him away from the table, like if Sean happened to be there for a week, he'd lose it all. It's unbelievable his desire to gamble. It's mostly roulette, right? It's all true. No, blackjack, it's unreal. I saw him went splitting splitting aces and at one point he had I don't even want to say it was obscene he just come in yeah double down double down double split double up I'm like dude what are you doing yeah yeah well when you had a few you just kind of make bad decisions I don't drink when I gamble that's the trick

45:00Will Arnett:I don't think you can win unless you're drunk that was my problem but I do the roulette a lot and I almost always win because I just almost bet on every number you know what I mean they look for folks like you you know what's happening. We'll be right back. Oh boy. You know, we talk about closets a lot on this show. We sure do. Kicking the door down, coming on out. We're basically talking about that closets are for clothes. Oh, I just knew. And I've taken that too much to heart because my closet is stuffed. I've been meaning to go through my closet. Well, you should sell some of them. I should sell it.

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48:07She looked like a mom that was a big fan of Backstreet Boys. I mean, she was wearing all white with a bandana. She bedazzled her own shirt for it and stuff. Honestly, it was freaking amazing. Like, you know, yeah, I was, you know, I was never a Backstreet Boys guy and stuff like that. But, man, it was actually really great. We got to meet the boys. They were super sweet. I think she wants to go back before the end of the year. I think they're doing a Christmas-like residency, too.

48:30Will Arnett:Guns to your head, Mac. You got to pick one. One of the boys is your favorite. Oh, my God. Who? Oh, who's the fox?

48:36Sean Hayes:Well, what's the scenario where there's a gun to his head? He's on the bus. Choose one now. Yes. Kevin, Kevin. Ah! But he's a fox. Kevin is a fox. Yes, he is. He was the fox. Kevin, speaking of Kevin, I'm going to drag it back to Kevin. Nice. Yeah. Do you know the story that there is a, of a footballer. This is a long tie-in. A footballer who plays professional soccer in Belgium. I believe he plays for Union. There's a professional footballer called Alexis McAllister. He's a midfielder for Liverpool. I love him. He won the World Cup with Argentina. He's incredible. His family is of Irish descent, but they grew up, like his great-grandparents moved to Argentina.

49:23Sean Hayes:His brother, Kevin, plays professional as well in Belgium. And he found out when he was 18 that he was named after your character. No way. Is that true? His name's Kevin McAllister? And his name's Kevin McAllister and his brother plays for Liverpool. I should get his jersey and I should sign it and send it back to him. Yeah. Dude, absolutely. I gotta look this up. Yeah, yeah. I gotta get that. And I remember watching because they played Champions League last year randomly Liverpool and the brothers played each other and the commentator goes, did you know that he found out when he was 18? Was there a time, because I've asked this before and it's happened to me, probably all of us, when you're so identified with somebody like I was with Will and Grace and you with Kevin McCallish, where you fought the attention it brought you for so many years and then something clicked, you're like, you know what?

50:09I need to embrace this thing. And it kind of made me who I am. Was there a moment like that? Do you remember? Yeah, it was definitely burdensome for sure. Yeah, the trick is just relax, set up your own ground rules, things like that. Realizing that I'm in charge of the social interaction, You know, like usually when people meet a celebrity, they go, I'm going to be cool. And then they meet and they turn into something else, you know. And so it's like, it's kind of, you know, it's like, oh, I'm in charge. I can guide this interaction. And also I know all kinds of shortcuts and stuff like that. Like, you know, just if you want to end it, you just go, nice to meet you.

50:45Or, you know, yeah, or have a great day or something like that. You know, and a lot of times they walk away before they even realize the interaction's over with. And like, oh, man, I didn't get that photo. Like, yeah, you sure didn't. Bye.

50:56Sean Hayes:But when you were, how old were you that did the first Home Alone? I was nine when I did that. Nine. So you're nine. You do that movie and you're still, I guess, living at home in New York, right? It's the 35-year anniversary of it, actually. We're doing a thing at the Academy Museum later this month. Oh, wow. That's cool. That's awesome. Yeah. So you're nine years old. You're super famous and you're still living at home with your parents and your siblings and everything, I imagine, in New York. Yeah. But you're the most famous person on the planet walking down the same street. It must have been, that must have been an adjustment.

51:28Yeah, it was a lot. I was in like an old Irish neighborhood and stuff like that. You know, I'm the, you know, I'm an actor. I'm a ballet dancer. I'm all these things. So they're like, hey, what the fuck is this? You know, like that kind of thing. It was a little bit of that, you know. But there was also, yeah. But yeah, no, it was strange. There was some whiplash. I was shooting My Girl in Orlando when the first Home Alone came out. and, you know, like, yeah, I was kind of an actor, yada, yada, yada, but it wasn't a big deal. And then that movie came out and then I just remember the old neighborhood kids, like just in that little community I was living in, were now peeking through my window.

52:03I was like, wait, I know you. You're Jimmy Jim Jim over there, you know, yeah. And it's like, no, all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm different, I'm not one of them anymore. It was like that, you know. So, yeah, there was kind of an adjustment period there where, you know, and I kind of maneuvered those waters as best I could, really, you know. I really wasn't given a lot of tools, So it was kind of just, yeah, I kind of just had to embrace it. But for me, everything made sense. You know, you're on a hero's journey. You know what I mean? Oh, you do a little black box theater, you do smaller movies, you do bigger movies, and then you're a huge, fat superstar.

52:33That makes sense. That's the hero's journey. And it's not until you have perspective and go, oh, this is quite abnormal, actually. Like, you know, there's a lot of people who are hacking away at it, and they don't get there. Right, right, right.

52:42Will Arnett:Talk a little bit more about that dichotomy of you are embraced and a part of such a huge global community. You're one of all – the whole world wants to talk to you. But then you have that moment with your immediate group, your friends down the block, and there's kind of this thing that eats at you that you're really not one of them. They talk to you and about you a little bit differently. Like when you go back to your regular school or whatever. I remember feeling so lonely and disconnected with that such that, you know, when I had the time and the money to do it, I like I overcompensated for trying to get back into that community and just partied like crazy and tried to like, you know, be one of the guys.

53:27Will Arnett:Did you go through any of that yourself? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I definitely did plenty of partying and so forth, you know, I mean. But in pursuit of that, to try to get back and just be one of the guys? Yeah, no, that was, I had a yearning. Like I said, I wanted to go to school. You know, I didn't. It was mostly for social reasons. I wanted to hang out with people my own age. That was a big thing for me. And so I definitely wanted that. But, you know, it's interesting. It's like, you know, how everyone, you're told when you're younger, everyone's a delicate snowflake, you know, everyone's different and stuff like that.

53:58I truly felt different. You know, I mean, like, yeah. And rather than looking at it as a burden, it was kind of like, no, I'm a unicorn. You know, like, yeah, I'm some kind of mythical creature. I am different. And I kind of enjoyed that as well. But at the same time, again, you are kind of alone on an island. You are, again, a peerless person. Someone who's an accountant can turn left and right and there's other accountants in the office kind of thing. I don't get to have that.

54:24Sean Hayes:But also, not only that, and then also there is the commerce of it. Did you appreciate your 9-10, you're making the deal for the next one? I remember that stuff's published in the paper about how big it's going to be and all that kind of stuff. How do you sort of absorb that kind of information when you're 9, 10, 11 years old? I knew I was making some bank. I knew that, but I didn't, you know, you're 9, 10. I'm not reading. I'm not reading Entertainment Weekly. I'm watching the new X-Men cartoon. That's what I'm doing. Right, right, right. Yeah, trying to find some normality in my life and stuff like that.

55:05So I didn't really keep track of it. I wasn't told how much I was being paid either. I called it the tiny slip of paper kind of meeting. I turned 18 and I go to my business manager's office and boom, he has all my financials. And he just slides it across the table and it's like, okay, this is what you got. And I had a sense of how much it was and it was about right. Yeah, and also I'm just very fortunate because a lot of people, a lot of kids, they work not just in this business but all around the world. You know, there's, you know, people working in, you know, diamond mines in Africa. You know, there's, you know, in the slums of Mumbai.

55:40They got nothing to show for it. So I wake up very blessed every day knowing that, like, yeah, I came out the other end of the spin cycle. So, like Jason referred to before about you just seem so chill and together and, like, you figured it out for yourself, which is great. You're in pajamas, for Christ's sake. I know, right? Exactly, yeah. I'm on the clock. Yeah. So what do you worry about? What's the thing that you worry about? Um, not, you know, I mean, standard stuff. You want to make sure, you know, I raise my boys right. Yeah. You know, make sure the lady is like, you know, happy that, you know, that, you know, our cups are full.

56:14You know, it's that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's standard kind of stuff. Because again, if I never work again, I'm totally fine when it comes to acting or anything like that. Like, you know, like I said, every job is my last job. I'm in a constant state of retirement until I'm not, you know, and then I retire again. So, yeah, I don't look, my trick is I don't look for satisfaction over there. I turn inward when it comes to stuff, you know, both me and my family.

56:38Will Arnett:What do you do to alleviate the stress? Do you have a hobby that brings you great pleasure that people would be surprised about? You know, Will, you'll like this. I'm a big Lego guy. Really? Yes, I build a lot of Legos. I probably built about 30 sets in the last, like, 40 days. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

57:01Sean Hayes:You know, Lego has, I will say, it does have real sort of... Soothing, calming. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a puzzle. There's a sort of restorative quality to it, to the soul. You sort things out, you build it piece by piece. You know, you get that release of endorphins when you're done, and that sense of accomplishment. I love that. It's therapeutic. It can be really therapeutic in a way.

57:26Will Arnett:Are you at the level now that, and I am not. In fact, I haven't thought about this until just this moment? Or do you go without the books? Oh, no, no. I still do the books, but I do some of the 10 ,000 piece sets and stuff like that too. I clocked myself. I do just under 500 pieces an hour I can do. You know, yeah. What? On a Lego thing? Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty, it's second nature at this point. It's reflexive. Yeah, do you have like, you're like a brainiac in like that way, right? No, no, I just, you know, I can anticipate. If you do it long enough, you can anticipate what they're going to do next.

57:58So when I sort things and so forth.

58:00Will Arnett:I want you to try one without the books one of these days. That'll be interesting, yeah. One of those freestyle. See what it looks like. Because of that, do you have OCD because you like to make things complete like that? No, not necessarily. It keeps my mind and my hands busy. Excellent. And yeah, and also it's decorative and so forth. I love like I'll build like an Avengers set and then my three and four-year-old just tear it absolutely apart. But also that's what it's – honestly, I kind of like that. You know, it's those, what is it, those, like, Chinese, like, vases or whatever. They build them, then they smash them, and then put them back together.

58:34And that's kind of, you know, that's the beauty of it.

58:35Will Arnett:Do you get annoyed when your boys try to help? No, not at all. No, if anything, like, they're on, like, the Duplo stuff, so it's all the oversized things. But I'm really looking forward to building, like, you know, some proper sets with them. And they have helped me. I'm like, oh, give me that red one, please. And, like, you know, so they're going to super be into it. They love it. I always get them little Lego men and things like that, those mystery boxes and all that stuff.

58:58Sean Hayes:Macaulay, I have deep connections with the folks over in Denmark with the Lego company. I'm going to get you in touch with them. I think that you need to do like a signature build, like design a build for the world, the Macaulay Culkin set. Yeah, open up that gateway for me, yeah, for sure. You know, we were just on Fridays and Saturdays on non-school nights. We do slumber parties in Mama and Papa's bed. and like clockwork, they like the Lego movie but also they're super into Lego Batman. They're super into it. My oldest dressed as Batman this Halloween because he's a big fan of Lego Batman. Oh, that's great.

59:36Yeah, so he was Batman, she was Robin and I asked him, what do you want me to be? He goes, I want you to be a toilet. Wow. Oh, that's right. I saw that. I saw you went as a toilet. I was a toilet, yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah, but you know, if your son asks you to be a toilet, you gotta be the best thing toilet you can be. you know that's right so that's yeah that's hysterical there we go see just for context very nice that's hilarious yeah how did you do that did you make that yeah I just pieced it together with Amazon stuff and everything like that you know the white crocs really tied the room together like Lebowski's rug

1:00:09Sean Hayes:I think I think that if you go as a toilet you hope that everybody around you doesn't give a shit well I would jump out from behind trees going poo I walk by like somebody dressed as a banana I go see you later oh corn oh yeah I love corn and I had a little bag in my bowl and stuff like that and they'd be like oh I'd be trick or treating they're like do you want some candy oh no I just eat poo and then I would have a Snickers bar ready oh I love poo kids loved it this one kid was following me around the entire time all around the neighborhood you know yeah he just loved the fact he's like oh look it's a walking talking toilet

1:00:52Will Arnett:meanwhile Sean is hiding in his house with the lights off and a sign on the front door saying keep moving

1:00:57Sean Hayes:yeah by the way that's true it's so true no we know we know you've got a house full of candy even when it's not Halloween and you don't want to share it with the neighbor like smaug or something yeah totally wow wait what's a wait what's what's the perfect day with you and your family just I know you just said that slumber thing which is cool yeah we do slumber party I really love that. You know, I like taking them to, I'm teaching my boys how to be romantic. So I take them to Trader Joe's and pick out flowers so they can give it to grandma and mama and stuff like that. Like, I love doing that kind of stuff.

1:01:29I like teaching them things. Like, you know, yeah, it's good. But, man, they're at that age. They're running me ragged. Like, just, you know, just like 40 minutes straight of cardio. Just like, yeah, playing. He's like, you be the bad guy. I'll be the police. And you be the fireman. He's like, okay, okay. And then it's like, oh, man. I'm just like, I'm literally setting fires. so the fireman can put it out. Sure. Running me ragged. But they're that really sweet spot. They are little people now. They have opinions. And the way they converse, just being a fly on the wall, it's so cute. It's so good.

1:02:02I think Grandma taught the boys, my youngest, who's three, taught them our real names. Oh, interesting. So it's like, what's your papa's name? He's like, Macaulay Culkin. Yeah. And it's like, what's your mother's name? Bender's Tong. I know that's always kind of fascinating when you learn your parents' names. I thought it was mom and dad, yeah. Well, my oldest, my kids, they look at like Sweet Life of Zack and Cody. That was the show that my lady was on when she was a kid. They watch that and they'll go, oh, that's Mama on TV. I show them Home Alone. My oldest especially, he thinks he's Kevin McAllister.

1:02:37He doesn't put it together that it's me. So he sits there and I'm like, oh, do you remember going down the stairs on this lady? He's like, yep, yep, yep, yep. Do you remember, you know, sitting up trash for the bad guy? He's like, yeah, sure do. I'm like, you liar. You lying liar who lies. That was me. Do you like your shoes? That's what paid for your shoes. You know what I'm saying?

1:02:55Will Arnett:There's no resemblance between you and the kid in that movie. I love that. He's going to blow his mind in a minute. No, he has no idea. And one day, I'm waiting for the big reveal where all of a sudden he's just going to turn to me and go, hey, wait a second. I'm not going to tell him. I'm sure some kid's going to spoil the reveal at school or during recess or something like that. but he's going to turn and go, wait, you've been the whole time? Like, yeah, whole time. But, you know, of all the kids on this planet Earth, they're the closest ones who actually say, oh, yeah, I'm like that kid from that movie, you know, yeah.

1:03:24And watching that movie has taken on an entirely different experience now. Like, you know, before it was kind of just, oh, it was a movie that I did. Now it's something I show my kids and it's, you know, it's a different animal now. That's really cool. I appreciate it differently.

1:03:35Will Arnett:Well, it's such a classic holiday movie. Do they like watching it during the holidays? They absolutely love it, yeah. And they still don't know it's you? They still don't know it's me. That is crazy. Well, I mean, you know, it has been 35 years. Yeah, no, I know, but I'm just like, that's so wild. Yeah, no, like I said, it's going to dawn on them. It's going to dawn on them, and it's going to be like, yeah.

1:03:54Sean Hayes:Like a lot of other parents I showed my kids, they've all seen it a zillion times and loved it. Well, they have good taste, yes. Yeah, it's been a staple. Actually, you know what's funny? I made a video on, I took a photograph of my son from a few weeks ago, and I put it on an AI app and I gave the prompt to have somebody hand him a golf club and then he does a swing. So he did it. These apps are incredible. So he does this AI-generated video and I show it to him and he's like, yeah, I remember that. And I go, you never did that. You're lying. Yeah, and I'm like, he's five. And he's like, no, I did that.

1:04:30Sean Hayes:I'm like, no, you didn't. But I just saw it. Clearly it's me. Clearly it's me. Anyway, well, Macaulay Culkin, first of all, Zootopia 2, you and Jason. Jason's so in love with your character. Oh, my God. Incredible work. Thanks. You too, man. You know, yeah. Stunning. Can't wait to meet you on the carpet. I know. And then the next season of Fallout as well, you can be seen there as well. And Macaulay, thank you for joining us, man. You're just an absolute legend. Love us. Thanks for this. Such a joy. Such a joy to have you. Great having you, pal. Yeah, the great Macaulay Culkin, Thank you so much, dude.

1:05:06Sean Hayes:Thanks for being here. Thanks a lot, guys. Bye, buddy. See you later. Cheers. Bye, toodles.

1:05:12Fantastic. I love learning about the, all that stuff. Like, you want to ask him about the Home Alone, but then you're like, can I, shouldn't I? But then you're like, I want to know. So it's pretty, that's so wild. His kids don't know it's him. I know. That is really funny.

1:05:27Will Arnett:How nuts is that? That's so cool. They're going to be like, wait a minute. Well, like, I want to, he needs to film that moment when they're like, wait a minute. that to you. But really cool. And I like how you said, Jay, about how he's kind of just down to earth, figured it out, kind of parented himself through the whole thing and came out great. It feels very comfortable with himself

1:05:47Sean Hayes:and where he's at.

1:05:48Will Arnett:Yeah. Exactly. And he's got that magic sort of indifference, right? About work and success and all that stuff.

1:05:57Sean Hayes:Magic or is it sexy?

1:05:59Will Arnett:It might be sexy. Could be a little magic. It's probably just keep him working the rest of his life because he's just got that, you know, healthy.

1:06:06Sean Hayes:You know the thing about the sexy indifference is it's kind of naughty. It is kind of naughty. It's kind of dirty. Hey, did you know Jesse Eisenberg came away as Kenny was a stranger? Listen, where's Taylor? Let's get Taylor and the gals in here. Can we get them in here? Sure, by the way, they would love to. I mean, we'd love to see. Are they still sleeping? Let me see. Oh, yeah. Why don't you just go on the intercom? How long does it take to get from one end of your house to the other? A while, right? Do you have golf carts? Series of golf carts? Oh, boy.

1:06:31Will Arnett:Sean's doing so well. I know, he's doing so well. He's really doing it. Hey, so sorry about being late again. Yeah, well, listen, Sean, I'm glad you mentioned that. Do you have a second here? Because Will and I'd love to talk to you about it. Things have been a little sloppy lately, I think, coming out of your, you know. And I'm glad that the audience is not listening to this because, and Will, do you want to start?

1:06:54Sean Hayes:Yeah, I just said, we, let me read the thing I wrote. Sean, we love you and we feel like we are losing you. It's okay.

1:07:04Oh, wait, they're all coming in. They're all coming in. Oh, my God. Come on. Here we go. One by one. Here they come. One by one. Ainsley.

1:07:13Sean Hayes:Come on. Name him up as a go, Sean.

1:07:17Will Arnett:Hi.

1:07:19Sean Hayes:Oh, my God.

1:07:21Will Arnett:Look at this. What are you doing, Sean? I know. This is what's happening. Yeah, we talked about Jesse Eisenberg. Oh, my God, no. He's like really nice

1:07:37He's giving his kidney No stranger I know We know We know And what about Who doesn't use a phone? Ed Sheeran Ed Sheeran doesn't use a phone And what do we think of that?

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1:07:58Sean Hayes:Sean sign them up to SmartLess Mobile immediately, would you? Can you hear? This is my niece, Elise. Elise, hi, Elise. Say hello. Hello. Hi. Hi, Elise. Oh, my God. No, I can't. I can't. You know what? Ask them to say in unison. Okay, ready? Okay, we got to go now. So, everybody, we're going to say one, two, three. Bye. Hey.

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