"Margot Robbie"

16 Feb 2026 · 1 h 6 min · 32 chapters

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In short

Margot Robbie’s life and career, from growing up on Australia’s Gold Coast to becoming a Hollywood star; plus her experiences with ice hockey, moving to the U.S., and landing major roles.

Guest backgrounds

Margot Robbie is an Australian actor and producer. She played ice hockey competitively in a co-ed team despite limited prior skating experience. She started acting through unpaid student films and TV work, then gained early fame on the Australian soap Neighbors before moving to the U.S.

Key claims

She says she didn’t have money or interest in university, and instead pursued acting professionally. She describes an “Aussie mafia” network that helped her navigate early Hollywood life, including getting cars for auditions. She claims her first major U.S. film role came quickly after a self-tape: she went from tape to reading with Martin Scorsese and Leonardo DiCaprio for The Wolf of Wall Street. She also says she improvised during the read and slapped DiCaprio, which she believes helped her get the role.

Notable examples

Neighbors training (word-perfect, fast-paced production); her first U.S. job on Pan Am; the car-crash story involving a “dodgy Romanian” and an unopened trunk; and the Wolf of Wall Street audition scene where she slapped DiCaprio.

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Catching Up and Recent Events

0:00 to 0:22

The hosts discuss their recent activities, including gatherings and performances.

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Catching Up and Recent Events

3:27 to 7:22

The hosts discuss their recent activities, including gatherings and performances.

“Sean, you're on Eastern Time, so he's more cups of coffee into his day than we are.”

Will's New Film and Rehearsals

7:22 to 11:40

Will shares insights about his upcoming film and rehearsal experiences.

“But Jennifer Aniston wasn't there, was she?”

Introducing Margot Robbie

11:40 to 14:00

The hosts introduce Margot Robbie and share fun facts about her.

“Hey, Scotty, what's the first line of the play?”

Giggling and Hockey Talk

14:00 to 16:41

The hosts share laughs and discuss their love for hockey.

“I've been sitting here giggling listening to you guys.”

Margot's Hockey Experience

16:41 to 18:13

Margot shares her experience of playing ice hockey in America.

“But you know when you're in all your gear, you can't really tell that you're a girl.”

Discovery of Acting

18:13 to 19:38

Margot discusses her early fascination with movies and acting.

“like we had a collection of videos and I'd just watch them to death and then I'd recreate them and like I was just – And Harry Potter was a big part of that?”

From Australia to Hollywood

19:38 to 21:19

Margot explains her journey from Australia to finding success in Hollywood.

“So if you really wanted to do anything, you know, the biggest shows were all in Sydney and Melbourne.”

School and Career Decisions

21:19 to 22:59

Margot reflects on her schooling and the decision to pursue acting.

“So, what's going on with school at this moment?”

Doubts and Confidence in Acting

22:59 to 25:57

Margot shares her doubts about acting and a surprising test of her intelligence.

“And so I think I get the impression that for you guys in America, it's like you go to college to have a college experience.”
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Doubts and Confidence in Acting

26:03 to 28:03

Margot shares her doubts about acting and a surprising test of her intelligence.

“But what is constant is the love of popcorn.”

Doubts and Confidence in Acting

28:06 to 28:51

Margot shares her doubts about acting and a surprising test of her intelligence.

“You want a stomach that minds its own business so you can go do something more interesting.”

Margot's Journey from Neighbors to Hollywood

28:51 to 30:58

Margot Robbie shares her transition from Australian soap operas to Hollywood films.

“And it's, you know, I looked around and I was like, okay, so some people are lifers here.”

The Challenges of Moving to America

30:58 to 34:26

Margot discusses the struggles and experiences of relocating to the U.S.

“Well, your fellow Aussies that have been on soaps as well, and you sleep on their couches and everyone like shares info of like, okay.”

From Pan Am to Big Breaks

34:26 to 36:55

Margot reveals her first American acting gig and the journey that followed.

“Did you get to use the car enough to go to plenty of auditions?”

Auditioning for The Wolf of Wall Street

36:55 to 42:00

Margot shares the story behind her audition for The Wolf of Wall Street, including a memorable incident with Leonardo DiCaprio.

“And then I also, like everyone else, I auditioned for The Wolf of Wall Street.”

Audition Anecdote: From Panic to Joy

42:00 to 43:18

Margot shares a memorable audition experience that turned into a job offer.

“And I was like, oh my God, what have I just done?”

Preparing for Stardom: Dealing with Success

43:18 to 45:28

Margot discusses her experience of unexpected fame following a successful film.

“Did things, I mean, a massive change for you in your life once that comes out, was that a comfortable thing?”

Family Reactions: Navigating Awkward Moments

45:28 to 47:27

Margot recounts her family's reaction to her explicit scenes in a movie.

“Yeah, but then you go and you see it and you're like, wow.”

Creative Choices: Improv in Film

47:27 to 48:25

Margot reflects on the creative freedom she experienced while filming 'I, Tonya'.

“where they just hold on you in the mirror.”

Creative Choices: Improv in Film

48:32 to 50:28

Margot reflects on the creative freedom she experienced while filming 'I, Tonya'.

“Getting a good deal is kind of a big deal.”

From Barbie to Quentin: Career Highlights

50:39 to 55:15

Margot discusses her journey from Barbie to working with Quentin Tarantino.

“At what point did you start thinking, God, I would love to parlay some of this great access and position in the community into producing as well?”

The Secrets of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

55:15 to 56:00

Margot shares insights about the film and the secrecy surrounding it.

“and it is, so I've read like, you know, all the folklore around making a movie with Quentin.”

Keeping Movie Secrets

56:00 to 57:40

Margot discusses the importance of keeping film endings secret.

“I remember reading that and going, okay, this is never going to last.”

The Barbie Film Journey

57:40 to 1:02:00

Margot shares insights into the development of the Barbie movie.

“So, yeah, we were all in on keeping it secret.”

Wuthering Heights and Collaborations

1:02:00 to 1:04:30

Margot talks about her upcoming projects and collaborations.

“just trust us and also leave them alone.”

Chemistry and Filming

1:04:30 to 1:10:00

Margot discusses her chemistry with co-stars and filming processes.

“even though it's destroying you on some level.”

Wrapping Up with Mark

1:10:00 to 1:10:31

The hosts say goodbye to their guest Mark and express good wishes.

“I appreciate all the time and best of luck with the film we're going to watch it this afternoon we're all going together are you actually?”

Admiring Margot Robbie

1:10:32 to 1:12:09

The hosts discuss Margot Robbie's impressive career and talent.

“Movie, big movie, big movie, big movie, big movie.”

Surprising Box Office Success

1:12:10 to 1:12:48

The hosts express disbelief at which of Margot Robbie's films topped the box office.

“Right, talented, beautiful, smart, all those things.”

Surprising Box Office Success

1:13:05 to 1:13:37

The hosts express disbelief at which of Margot Robbie's films topped the box office.

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Surprising Box Office Success

1:13:57 to 1:15:11

The hosts express disbelief at which of Margot Robbie's films topped the box office.

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Transcript

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2:42You know, hey, Will, good morning. How are you today? Oh, hey, Sean. Yeah, good morning. I'm good too. I set my thermostat even though it's winter. Oh my God, hang on. And fucking let me sit down for this. Okay, go ahead. I set my thermostat to put the air conditioning on because everybody in my building in New York has the heat on. So at night, I'm asleep with the air conditioning on. Isn't that kind of dumb?

3:02Sean Hayes:No, it's not dumb. I'm just trying to think of a synonym right now. Oh, you know what? It's Smartless. Oh. Welcome to Smartless. Smartless.

3:18Smartless.

3:22Smart. Bless.

3:27Will Arnett:So, Sean. Hey. Yeah, you know, now. I just, I'm just happy to be here. Shut up. God damn it.

3:36Sean Hayes:This is amazing.

3:37Will Arnett:Jason, don't talk to him like that.

3:39Sean Hayes:Hang on. Sean, shut up.

3:41Will Arnett:Yeah. Sean, you're on Eastern Time, so he's more cups of coffee into his day than we are.

3:47Sean Hayes:Sean, he's such a, He never lets it show. He works his freaking tail off. He's there in rehearsal doing this play. And then he just shows up and he doesn't complain. Do you ever notice that? Well, live with me. Let me ask Crankerville. Crankerville, do you notice? I've never heard you complain about anything. He doesn't, right? I do. I kind of do. Well, I would... Look at Scotty. Scotty's like, all he does is complain. Scotty's listening and that was it.

4:18Will Arnett:so wait so wait is Scotty always on always on the extra set of kids not always but a lot of times he listens like just for fun I love it yeah now Sean you haven't I got a full night of Willie's new look last night oh right yeah yeah I got it I got it the other night he's just so goddamn handsome with this facial hair look at that cut his hair yeah you never grow your beard out

4:42Sean Hayes:I know thank you yeah wear your rings Willie Did you get to keep the rings? I know, I had the rings, I know, I know. So for Tracy, Will's doing this big film to follow up the other film.

4:53Will Arnett:It's for a part, it's not for a part, is it for a part? Yeah.

4:56Sean Hayes:Yeah, it's for the thing I just did with Tony Gilroy.

4:58Will Arnett:Well, say what it is.

5:00Sean Hayes:Tony Gilroy's directing you and Pedro Pascal, and who else? And Olivia Wilde and a lot of great people, and it's, yeah, called Behemoth, and yeah. Yeah, it's very cool that you're part of that. Yeah, yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, it was really fun that they asked me to...

5:13Will Arnett:Well, wait, are you playing some fucking stud? Because you're looking like it.

5:18Sean Hayes:No, he's a, it's, I can't really say anything because I realized that they haven't said anything of what it's about, so I'm not allowed to really say.

5:26Will Arnett:It's not Star Wars. Fucking hit cake, please. I don't know. Do you have like watermark scripts and stuff? Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's. Well, you're handsome in it. I can tell you that. So you're going to hold the look. You're going to keep the look. I mean, you know, listen, I mean, for anyone who cares out there, us soft actor guys, the only time we ever stumble into a new look, it's because somebody with taste in a makeup trailer kind of carved one into us for a part. And then we're like, we're done with the movie. We're like, oh, maybe I'll just hold on to a little element of this.

5:59Will Arnett:Look at me. Like when you had your long hair for a while. Well, I still, yeah. I mean, Amanda, I came home. Amanda was like, oh, you're keeping that. Really? Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you cut it off pretty fast after the Black Rabbit. But it's still a little long, isn't it? I mean, it's not stupid long like it was before.

6:17Sean Hayes:Remember when Jason got really kind of in shape and he was doing Black Rabbit and he had the long hair and he was really ripped up? We're still kind of in shape a little bit. And Amanda was like, it's kind of like having sex with a stranger. And she said, kind of with glee. With some tweaker you give a ride to. The ride home for. That's hilarious. She was a little too excited about last night. A little change of pace never hurts. But we missed you, Sean. It was the first time. I know. What, did you guys get together last night? Yeah, we did Sunday dinner, Sunday fun day. And it was the first time in a while for me.

6:49Sean Hayes:And it was so great seeing everybody and seeing this guy. Did Carolyn go? The love of my life. No, she was, something came up. It's not working out, Sean. It's not working out. We're making news today, guys. No, no, no, no, no, no. We are not making news. That's not true. Something came up. And then we had Danny and Don Dees, which was raising them. I just heard from Don. Yeah, she's great. Willie Speck. Oh, man. Jimmy Hedge. Jimmy Hedge. And we saw Sweet Richard. Sweet Little Maple. Oh, Richard and Jenny. And Richard and Jenny. But Jennifer Aniston wasn't there, was she? Oh, you know it, girl.

7:29Sean Hayes:Yo, you know it.

7:31Will Arnett:She was frying up some, what did we have last night?

7:34Sean Hayes:We had those burgers. By the way, how about Thoreau had sleeves last night? Yeah, well, it's cold. Thoreau is in Los Angeles. Yeah, it was a little cold last night. Jeez, man. He had sleeves, but he had two T-shirts. He had the two, the layered T-shirts.

7:48Will Arnett:He did. He had a Steve Bannon combo going. Oh, my God. God, everybody was there. It was fun. You guys were missed. You and Scotty.

8:00Sean Hayes:Sorely missed.

8:01Will Arnett:Sorely, sorely missed. Is there any way you can get a vicious stomach virus and get fired off that play? I think about it all the time. You know, yesterday was the big, big, big snowstorm. Massive. So we had, oh, so we canceled. We had to cancel rehearsal. So I, but I still wanted to run. Is this you guys rehearsing out in a park?

8:22I mean, got a little excuse.

8:26Will Arnett:Let's take a day off. Yeah, we're doing, it's outside. It's in the, it's in Central Park outside. But no, I said, so it was rehearsal because you couldn't drive or go anywhere in the streets. So anyway, so they canceled. And I said, but I still wanted to run the show. So it's like fresh in my head, you know? So I said, Scotty, there's a performance in the bedroom tonight. It starts at 7 p.m. There's one ticket because there's one chair in the bedroom. I said, you can, there's a bathroom. There's no intermission, but there's a bathroom right next to the chair. And if you want to fall asleep during the performance, there's a bed.

8:55Jesus, I'm getting a hard on. Tell me more about it.

8:58Will Arnett:Yeah. What a sell on this play. I mean, Jesus. How many times does that pitch come out of your mouth? There's a performance in the bedroom tonight.

9:06Sean Hayes:I was going to make a joke, but then Sean, it occurred to me, you know what would be a great biopic you should do? Because you know a lot about it is the story of Chef Boyardee. Why not? The Chef Boyardee story. Don't fucking threaten me.

9:19Will Arnett:But how does a rehearsal for a one-man show go? What do you mean, how does it go? It's just him. It's just you're up there, and then you've got the director sitting in the middle of the house. Yeah, yeah.

9:29Sean Hayes:It's just a couple. and it's just right. It's weird. But you know, the...

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9:34Will Arnett:Do you light the show with a flashlight? Is that it? Yeah, well, people have to use their phone lights. That's how we get the light. Everybody in the audience. No, during the run through the other day, we had like our first quote audience, but it was all like the producers and the people doing behind the scenes stuff. So it was like 20 people, which is a lot of people who have to be rehearsing by yourself. And so I walked in and I started laughing. I'm like, I can't do this. This is insane. Oh, God. They all start panicking. Now, I think we talked about this before, but forgive my old man brain.

10:06Will Arnett:I've forgotten. Do you have some sort of a net, some sort of a fail safe? Like if I go up, so somebody just off stage? Yeah, well, for previews, which are two weeks, there'll be somebody in the front row on book. Front row? You can't look to the audience for the line. No, but you can just say line or whatever. Really? And the person in the front row, like there's going to be a person in the front row with a script in their hands. This is correct.

10:31Sean Hayes:When you say person, you mean Scotty, obviously.

10:35Will Arnett:Isn't that going to be distracting for the people around this person that this person's snapping script pages? What are you going to do? I'll tell you what you're going to do. You put somebody off fucking off stage in the wings.

10:44Sean Hayes:For the show, that's something we do when we open. Don't tell them how to do it.

10:48Will Arnett:But you're selling tickets for the preview.

10:50Sean Hayes:That's correct. That's correct. I don't get that. Because they get to see how the sausage is made. It should be a discounted ticket then

10:56Will Arnett:because Sean has never shit together yet.

10:58Sean Hayes:What are you, an advocacy group? It is this guy. What are you doing? By the way, Sean, quick question. First of all, Sean, obviously Jason and I are thrilled to have you on the show. Do you, do you, are you, Sean, is... I'm such a big fan of both of you. We don't usually have theater types. You're so good. Do you have any stories that you'd like to... Sean, do you, is Scotty off book? Seriously. Wait, you mean because from running lines with me? I mean, a tiny, not really. I mean, a tiny bit. Scotty, come into frame. Scotty, are you off book? He's way down there. Scotty, you off book a little bit?

11:31You love that one line, I say.

11:33Will Arnett:You know that one line. The one you always say, you nailed it. What is it? Shut up, Scotty. Just shut up. Hey, Scotty, what's the first line of the play?

11:45Sean Hayes:I don't know.

11:46Will Arnett:Oh, that's your man, front row.

11:53What if the lights come up? I'm like, line.

11:56Sean Hayes:Did you get a deal on him? Yeah. I told you that thing when I auditioned for David Chase for The Sopranos. And I had one line. One line. And I got the silver cup. And Georgianne Watkins, the casting director, I go and she goes, you just, I know you're going to meet him, but he wants everybody to say one line. I was like, one line? How am I going to, you know, a bunch of actors out there for it. This is like 2001 or 2002. Anyway, I go out there. I go into the room with David Chase, Georgianne Watkins in there. And I've got this piece of paper with the one line on it. And she goes, you ready to start?

12:24Sean Hayes:I go, yeah. and he's just watching us gonna me deliver it to her and I look at her and I just go line and he burst out laughing and I got the job not a comedy but he was I think he was so he was like this motherfucker was this for Sopranos? Sopranos yeah you were on the Sopranos? yeah I know that's what a lot of people say wait come on really? I didn't know that can you believe

12:48Will Arnett:I still have not watched that show? I haven't either

12:51Sean Hayes:it's real good it's real good

12:53Will Arnett:It's going to be a hit, I hear. All right, come on. Here we go. J.B., let's get to your guest.

12:57Sean Hayes:I mean, what's going on? Let's get to our guest.

12:58Will Arnett:I mean, she's probably left or asleep by now. Here we come. Wait a second. Let me pull up the notes. Here we go. Here we go. Guys. Yes. Today, we have an actor that I met once, very briefly, and was as knocked out by her charm and warmth as you would think that you would be. She's one of our biggest stars, an incredibly successful producer. She kills it in both comedy and drama, big films and small. She has box office success as well as critical praise. Her nominations are numerous, including two for an Academy Award. She knows how to hold her breath for five minutes. What? She's a trained pickpocket.

13:35Will Arnett:I know who this is. She plays ice hockey competitively. Come on. She's at the top of the mountain, folks, but has cleared an hour for a good old smartless chat and giggle. And I couldn't be more grateful to her. Go gang. Please welcome Miss Margot Robbie. No. Bang.

13:54Will Arnett:Hey, Margo. Hi, Margo. What's going on, Margo?

13:58Sean Hayes:She's a big Rangers fan. I am. Yeah? I've been sitting here giggling listening to you guys.

14:05Will Arnett:Shoot the shit. That was really fun. We tried to keep it tight. No, I love that. That was my favorite part. Yeah, I love the Rangers. I love the Rangers. Have you guys seen each other out there at the garden? No.

14:14Sean Hayes:No? I've seen you there. Have you? Yeah, I'm incognites. but I'm short for incognito. I didn't have the time to say, before we keep talking about hockey, which I hope we do, Will, I have to say, I fucking loved Is This Thing On? And you were so good in it. And I swear to God, as soon as I finished watching it, the first thing I said, I was like, give the man an Oscar. You were so unreal in it. I love it. That's very kind of you. Thank you so much.

14:45Will Arnett:And now let's have your review on this look, this new look. Are you in love with him as I am? Honestly, quite the reveal when I whipped off the piece of paper from the screen just then. It's pretty sweet. You look great. All right. Thank you. Thank you. You look tanned as well. Have you been on holiday? It's a new bronzer. It's a new... Right?

15:02Sean Hayes:Yeah. Jason's new line. He does a lot of men's skin care. This one is water resistant. It's good for all climates.

15:09Will Arnett:Won't leak on you. Won't run.

15:11Sean Hayes:He does... This one is called Early June. So it's not too heavy. It just looks like the summer started. It's working for you. Margot. Margot. It's so nice to meet you. I mean, this is so cool. Hey, guys. Alex is hiding. And I had no idea about the hockey thing. You play hockey? You still play hockey? Do you know what? I don't, I haven't for a couple of years, but I loved The Mighty Ducks when I was a kid, the movie. Sure, sure. And I desperately wanted to play ice hockey, but I'm from a place called the Gold Coast in Australia. Sure. And there was no ice, and so there was no way to play ice hockey.

15:45So I ended up playing field hockey all through school. And when I got to America, the first thing I did, I was like, I'm going to play ice hockey. I'm here. I've made it in America. I can finally live out this dream. And so I joined an ice hockey team. Really? And I hadn't really ever ice skated.

16:03Sean Hayes:Margot, as a Canadian, the nation of Canada is behind you. You are all of a sudden, you've reached elite status in Canada. It was so fun.

16:13Will Arnett:Now, was this before or after the skating training for I, Tonya? Well before. It would have been very helpful if this came after that. But no, it was well before. So I hadn't really skated before. I had like here and there, like, you know, I don't know, just a few times maybe in my life, but not really. And I kind of, I think I just thought, oh, just run. And there's so much padding that honestly it was fine. But I played in a co-ed team. Jesus. There was only one other girl on the team. But you know when you're in all your gear, you can't really tell that you're a girl. You know, like I just looked like a very small guy.

16:50Sean Hayes:I had a problem with that one Saturday night. Go ahead. Hey, man, you need a ride? I want to hear more about that. Yeah, so I just looked like a small dude on the team, so I'd get picked on. They would check me so hard. But yeah, it's good. That's pretty ballsy. And then I'd take off the helmet at the end of the game. they'd be like, oh, shit, sorry, I didn't know you were a girl. But you never got any, you didn't get any, you didn't tune anybody up. You didn't get any fights. Any fights? No, no, no. Throw the gloves? I was way smaller than everyone. Wow, that's cool.

17:22Will Arnett:All right, so you're out there in Australia and you are, you're enjoying, was it, done a tiny bit of research, was it the infatuation with Harry Potter that got you really excited about movies and acting and stuff like that, that that's what started? Where did it all start out there? Because mom nor dad was part of any of this stuff. No one's in the biz in my family. I had never met anyone who'd even so much as walked on a film set. Yeah, you were on a farm, right? Until I was, I spent a lot of time on a farm, but I myself was not on a farm. I was on property, but a lot. But, no, I don't know.

18:05I was just always obsessed with movies. I would just watch them again and again. Like we had, you know, like most kids from the 90s, like we had a collection of videos and I'd just watch them to death and then I'd recreate them and like I was just – And Harry Potter was a big part of that? I was obsessed with the books. Yeah. So, no, that really didn't bleed into my like movie obsession. I was just obsessed with movies and watching them. And yeah, my mom just used to watch me like, I'd regurgitate like, she'd be there making dinner in the kitchen and I'd just be reenacting something. She kept being like, how are you remembering all this?

18:43Where is this coming from? Is there one that you would do over and over again? Is there one that you would do?

18:47Will Arnett:Was there a particular actor or actress that you were like, oh God. Goldie Hawn. I was a big one. Good one. I loved everything she did. Yeah, likewise. And then there was like, The Fifth Element was like my favorite film when I was a kid. And so I'd try and recreate all those like action sequences. And I was, I was a bit of a dream. How funny was Chris Tucker in that? So good. What, then what, what, so then, so you go down to Melbourne, you get a couple of jobs there such that you feel like, well, maybe this can arm me with the kind of experience and position in the community somewhat that I can go to America and try to parlay that into something bigger, better?

19:30Totally. Yeah. I mean, I was on, yeah, so I was on the Gold Coast and which ironically now a lot of movies are shooting on the Gold Coast, but growing up that was, it felt very far away. So if you really wanted to do anything, you know, the biggest shows were all in Sydney and Melbourne. I ended up eventually finding my way into an audition for like practically a student film and ended up doing that and through that, you know, how things are like you do one unpaid thing, it leads to another unpaid thing, leads to another thing. And then eventually someone pays you to do it. And you're about 16, 17, 18?

20:0116, yes. So I was in my final year of high school. And then I ended up getting a guest role on a TV show that shot in Melbourne. So that kind of took me to the big smoke. And then once I was in Melbourne, I could quickly parlay one guest role into another guest role on a TV show with the same casting director. And then while I was in Melbourne, I auditioned for Neighbors, which is a big showcase. Oh, yeah. The biggest. Oh, you've heard of it? Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:27Sean Hayes:Wow. I'm up on all things Australia. Sure. Except for I will say I'm ignorant enough that I didn't realize that Gold Coast was the name of the actual city. I thought it was just kind of an area, but it's the actual name. I know. It's kind of confusing. And you also say, you say the Gold Coast, not like in, you don't live in, you live in Melbourne, you live in Sydney, but you live on the Gold Coast, even though that's the name of the city. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's confusing.

20:49Will Arnett:And that's up north, northeast, like Brisbane? Yeah, exactly. An hour drive from Brisbane, an hour drive from Byron. Where are you today? Where are we finding you today? I'm in LA. Oh, you are? Okay. We're about to start the junket for Wuthering Heights, which is a film that we've got coming out. Oh, I can't wait for that. We're going to get to that.

21:10Sean Hayes:It's so good, guys.

21:11Will Arnett:I'm so excited for Wuthering Heights. I can't wait. Words I never thought I'd say. No, I know. We'll hold you to that. I mean, I'm excited. But, all right. So, what's going on with school at this moment? So you're in your last year of high school. Are you thinking about college? Are you thinking about another career that might be more predictable, something that you can count on more? I didn't really know what I was going to – because it still hadn't occurred to me that I could do acting as a job, even though I had started doing these small unpaid things on the Gold Coast. So about halfway through high school, I started – I did my first – the thing that I described as a student film.

21:49It was like an independent film that never got distribution. So I don't really know what to call it other than a tiny micro-budget film. And so I did two of those. I would do commercials for free and, you know, whatever. And then the job in Melbourne kind of timed out the end of high school. So it turned out pretty great that I got to finish my childhood, really. And then, you know, two months later, I got the job on Neighbors. And then I've been working professionally ever since.

22:18Will Arnett:So you thought, I don't have time for college. don't have time to get a backup well i actually to be honest i didn't have the money to go to uni anyway and i i kind of thought this is crazy am i really going to go you know the thing is like you finish school you go to university and i know it's like that america too like go off to college but i was like but there's i don't know that there's something i want to study specifically am i going to put myself in crazy debt for like for what i was like that's insane so i couldn't get my head around yeah because you were lucky enough to know at a young age exactly what you wanted to do which is great don't most most kids i mean i'm talking to my daughters about this now it's like you you don't you don't there's no pressure to like know what your career is going to be at least in your first two years isn't it like the third and fourth year where you have to declare your major i think it's a bit different in america i feel like in america oh by the way all i wanted to do was go to college in america just because watching movies that look like the funnest thing in the whole world and i want to be like why what do you want to study i'm like oh i don't care about what i would want i just want to go to college yeah that's exactly why you go i want to go to a frat fraternity party and drink red cups and all that stuff.

23:23My daughter's in that right now. And so I think I get the impression that for you guys in America, it's like you go to college to have a college experience. And at some point during that experience, you realize, oh, I really like this class I'm taking. And now I'm going to shift in that direction. It's not really so much like that in Australia. You kind of have to decide in high school what it is that you like. So you're like, oh, I want to be a lawyer or I want to do business or something. and then you pick your degree and then you do that degree and it's a little shorter as well. You can even do your full degree in like two and a half years in Australia.

23:55You can kind of back it up like that.

23:58Sean Hayes:I just, my experience was I was like, I feel like I'm just going to go and waste my time doing this when I know that that's not where, I just want to go and start life now.

24:07Will Arnett:And were you doing what your parents wanted you to do too? Was that part of it?

24:11Sean Hayes:Who, me?

24:11Will Arnett:Yeah, you.

24:12Sean Hayes:Yeah, a little bit.

24:13Will Arnett:Tell me your name one more time. You're handsome. Look how handsome this guy is. What is he? Who's this handsome guy on the single tire? Margot, I remember in college, we used to have parties and we'd, you know, lug the keg up the stairs. Yeah, totally. In this apartment. Just like in the movies. Totally. And we'd charge$3 a cup when you come in. We'd buy the kegs. We'd make all this money. And at the end of the night, the floor would just be trashed with beer everywhere in our apartment. And at that age, you just kind of don't care. No, that's the dream. That's all I wanted. But do you know what?

24:48Part of me was like, oh, no. I started acting like I said, little neighbors, whatever. And I was like, oh, I haven't gone to university, and I guess I'm never going to at this point. Does that mean I'm – am I dumb? And I remember asking my sister – I look in the mirror and say that to myself every day. I, like, always wanted to check that this didn't mean I wasn't smart. My sister was – you know, we're very, very, very different people. and so she was studying to be an accountant in university, something I never would have done. But I remember saying, I was like, hey, can I do one of your assignments, one of your uni assignments?

25:25Because I just need to check that acting's not making me dumb. And I did it. And by the way, like numbers and accounting is not my forte at all. And I got like an A minus. And I was like, okay, cool. And then I felt good after that. I was like, I'm good. I can do it. I know I can do it if I need to. Because of life experience. Well, I mean, I studied. It was all about, you know, cognitive dissonance and some boring shit. Yeah. But yeah.

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28:50and now back to the show all right so you get to hollywood you got oh well you're it's not hollywood first right uh no so i was on neighbors for three years which is a pretty intense and very very fun and amazing training sort of thing as a young actor um yeah and so i did that for three years and then when my contract finished i started about six months into that job on neighbors i'm looking around, you've got a cast of, say, 30 people aging from eight years old to 80 years old. And it's, you know, I looked around and I was like, okay, so some people are lifers here. Some people have, you know, just made a life just from acting.

29:31And I'd ask the cast members, I was like, so you don't have any side jobs? You don't have a second job that you go do? And they're like, no, just this. And I was like, wow, okay, so you can make enough money doing this that you can, like pay for a house and put your kids through school. And they're like, yeah. And I was like, oh, excellent. Great. I'm going to do this then. So I'm going to be an actor then. Great. And then I was looking at some of the younger cast members who would. So there was kind of three choices on Neighbors. Either one, you can't keep up, you get fired. And it's like a revolving door.

29:59So like you need to be able to keep up. Number two, you are great and you stay and you can be on there for like 20, 30 years. You know, it's a long running. soap. Or option three, you do it for a little bit and then you make the jump to America and you try your luck in America. So I knew that I wanted to be in Hollywood and do like American films.

30:18Sean Hayes:Margot, just to be clear, there have been a lot of members, cast members over the years from Neighbors who have done that and gone to America and done great things, right? Yeah, and Home and Away. So like the two main soaps, Neighbors and Home and Away. So it's like Kylie Minogue was on Neighbors and Chris Hemsworth was on Home and Away. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's wild. That's a long lineage.

30:39Will Arnett:All right, so then when you get to Hollywood, is there a safety net? Do you come with a bag of money? Do you have an agent ready? There's an Aussie mafia ready-made for you. Yes? Yeah. No, truly, it's like being on Ramsey Street, which is like the street in the show. It was like just being on Ramsey Street again, but in America. All right, so who's taking care of you? Well, your fellow Aussies that have been on soaps as well, and you sleep on their couches and everyone like shares info of like, okay. Because by the way, when I moved here, it was 16 years ago. So I was 20. I moved five days after I finished on Neighbors.

31:15I was quite keen to get here. And yeah, there was no Uber. There was no, like it was a different time. There was pilot season.

31:22Will Arnett:You had to learn how to drive on the other side of the road. Well, not just, that wouldn't have been a problem. It was getting a car. You can't actually rent a car till you're 21 and I was still 20. and so I asked the Aussie, you know, like our Aussie mafia, I was like, you know, what do I do if I need to get a car to get around to these auditions? And they're like, okay, I know a guy. And so you'd go to this, the guy, and he would rent you a car kind of off the books or whatever and then you'd drive around to your auditions and all that. Russell Crowe's got a little side gig out in Simi Valley.

31:50Yes. Well, I ended up crashing that car on the way, and this was not a guy that you, you know, I didn't get the impression this is a guy that you messed with, But I crashed his car and I was really scared to tell him. Anyways, he took the car off me, obviously. And then I still needed a car to get around to auditions. And I went back to the Aussies and I was like, what do you do when you piss off that guy? Like, is there another guy that you can rent a car from? And they're like, yes, he's called the dodgy Romanian. And I was like, okay. And I rented a car from the dodgy Romanian, as he was called.

32:23And it was like this gold colored, God, I haven't thought about this in years. It was like this gold color, not a Lincoln, but like it looked like it was like a boxy color, like from the 80s. A big one. And this guy was like very few words, very, you know, like here's the keys, give me the cash. We're not going to chit chat, just one thing.

32:44Will Arnett:We don't have an offensive Romanian accent, Eddie? No, thank God. It was like don't open the trunk ever. No, come on, really? I'm not joking. I am not joking. Because I just don't open the trunk. And I was petrified. And I, no, I desperately wanted to make it in Hollywood. I'm like, I'm not going on little side quest here to open this trunk and get caught up in whatever is happening here. The Tarantino scene. I am never going to open this trunk. And anyways, I ended up, again, crashing in this car. What's the matter with you? You know what? I was always like doing my makeup and changing on the way to auditions and stuff and not paying.

33:19It was, yeah, it was a bit of a chaotic time. Anyways, I crashed in this car and I was panicking. I was like, holy shit, what do I do? There's no, you don't even call insurance. You got to call the dodgy Romanian and tell him that I've just crashed his car and he'll kill me, I suppose. And so I called him and he's like, where are you? And I was like, I gave him the address. I was somewhere in Venice, I think, and it was like nighttime. And he was like, I'm coming to you. And I was like, oh, God, no. And he rocked up with an associate and they got out of the car.

33:50Will Arnett:They go to the trunk. He looked at the damage and he was like, okay. and I was like waiting to, I don't know, be executed. And he was like, did you open the trunk? And I was like, no, never. Like I literally never. How dare you? And he goes, okay. And he just took the keys and he drove away. No way. And I never saw him again. I never got a bill for the damage to the car. Nothing. Truly. Oh my God. Just went into thin air. And I still to this day, I don't know what was in the trunk. What was in there? Just some cash, just loose cash. That'd be nice.

34:23Sean Hayes:that you can't deposit. Just junk. It might have just been junk in the trunk. Oh, God. Just too close. Oh, nice. Did you get to use the car enough to go to plenty of auditions? Like, did you get use out of the car before you crashed or got in the accident? Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. I had a good couple weeks. So, what was, so you come to America. Let's, let's, Margot, what was the thing? What was the first American gig? Was it Pan Am? Yeah, Pan Am. Was it, yeah. Pan Am. Remember that series? The movie? At the time, that was like, it was a TV show at Pan Am. Oh, that's right. It was a big deal at the time.

34:57Good looking show. Yeah, it was, I think at the time it was the most someone had spent on a pilot before. Yes, wow. They spent like$10 million on the pilot or something like that. It doesn't seem like it's that long ago. I know, and that also now seems like a small budget for like a pilot, but yeah, it was a big deal and I had a role in that. So that was my first job. So I was, I then moved to New York because we shot that at Steiner Studios. in Brooklyn. So then I was living in New York for a year. And my roommate was Christina Ritchie. No way. No way. Wow. Yeah. So I've gone from being in Australia, like never having, you know, met a single famous person or seen a movie set or whatever to, yeah, living in the big city.

35:39Will Arnett:And then was this your first time in New York? Yes. Oh my God. And what'd you think of that? I suddenly, I couldn't comprehend how much of a city it was. The thing is where I grew up on the Gold Coast, like I mentioned, but my family's all from like inland Queensland, like the farms, right? And so I had grown up thinking I was a city kid and I thought the Gold Coast was like the big smoke and they'd always call me a city kid because, you know, I was on the Gold Coast. Then I moved to Melbourne for neighbours and I was like, whoa, okay, this is a city. I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I thought I was a city kid.

36:12I've never been to a city. Melbourne is a city. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And then I got to New York and I was like, okay, I don't even know anymore. This is a different level. This is a city. Yeah, I loved it.

36:24Sean Hayes:I had the best, best, best time. Oh, my God. So you do Pan Am, and then that sort of runs its course, and then what? You're sort of left wondering what's going to happen now, or was it just offers flooding in? No, they didn't pick up the back nine, so we kind of had an inkling that we weren't going to go to a season two. It's my job. And then I started auditioning at that point. I auditioned for Richard Curtis's film, About Time, which I ended up getting a small role in. And then I also, like everyone else, I auditioned for The Wolf of Wall Street. So I sent in a self-tape for that, and I ended up getting that.

37:05And that was my first American film. No, wait, wait.

37:08Sean Hayes:So you sent in a self-tape for Wolf of Wall Street.

37:11Will Arnett:So then how long was that process? Was that maybe two or three auditions before you got to Scorsese and Leo? No, no. I went from the tape to being in the room with Marty and Leo. Christ. Wow. There was no in-between. I don't know how it happened like that because everyone I knew was sending in a tape, like everyone. So I never thought Martin Scorsese was going to see the tape. I just was hoping that Ellen Lewis, the casting director, was going to see the tape. And, you know, I sent it in. I didn't hear back anything until I got the call saying, you're going to read in the room with Marty and Leo.

37:47Sean Hayes:How long was that? How long was that gap from the time you said it? It was quite a while. Like, it was, like, I can't remember. Like you'd forgotten about it almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like, I don't know, maybe five weeks or something. I don't know. I get the feeling that maybe I was a bit of a wild card option because they, I think they had a couple of actresses read in the room with Marty and Leo to do a chemistry read sort of situation. I don't know. Maybe I was like the wild card where they're like, I don't know, throw her in. I have no idea. You get a call from your agent. You're like, guess what?

38:15Sean Hayes:that tape you sent in, you're going to go meet Martin Scorsese. Well, no, they said you're going to go meet with Marty, and I didn't know who Marty was. I was like, Marty? And they're like, Marty is what people call Martin Scorsese. And I was like, whoa! Dodgy Romanian. Wow, so you're going to go meet with Marty and Leo, and you're going to read with Leo for Marty. I mean, did they make you feel comfortable, or were you nervous? They did. They did, and they gave me the role in the room as well. Oh, that's great. Yeah, so the whole thing was crazy. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, walk us through that.

38:46Will Arnett:Is it true that you improvised a slap on Leo? Yes, it is true. It is true, and thank Christ that worked out. Because that could have gone a different way. Okay, walk us through that. Okay, so the way that day went, I walk in. I walk in. First, I go to Ellen Lewis's office to have a quick pre-chat with her. The great Ellen Lewis. And she takes one look at what I'm wearing, and she was like, no, no, no, no, no. She was like, you're going to go back downstairs? I think I was wearing like, you know, my like boots and like jeans and like a long sleeve shirt or something. And she was like, absolutely not.

39:20You're going to go downstairs. You're going to walk that way and you're going to walk into a place called Soho. There's lots of shops and you're going to find a tight dress and the highest heels you can find. And then you're going to come back. And I was like, OK. And so I went and did that and I came back in a new outfit. And then I, you know, went to the, you know, the audition room thing. and Marty and Leo were in there and it was quite surreal and we started doing the first scene. And I had just, you know, I'd been on a soap where you have to, you do like 60 pages a day and you have to be word perfect because it's multicams, they're switching, they're essentially editing as you do the scene.

39:59You know, like you are word perfect. So I start doing the scene and it was all right and whatever, but Leo was like throwing in ad libs and improvising and I'd never, ever improvised before. I'd never seen another actor improvise before. So I was a bit thrown. I was like, well, that's not in the script. Wait, what's he doing? Okay. And I was like, oh, my gosh. He doesn't know his lines. He's like, Leo doesn't know his lines. I was like, wow, he's improvising. Okay, shit. And so I thought, okay, I didn't do very good in that scene, I think, because I was, you know, playing catch up a little bit.

40:30And I thought, oh, God, I'm getting thrown out of this room in like 30 seconds. Like I've got 30 seconds to make an impression because we are like, Like, this is not impressive so far. And so I was like, okay, forget the lines. Just go off script. And I just thought I'm just going to use, like, every swear word I know. And so they were like, action. And I just, like, started script. Because also, Leo can go, you know. Like, if you don't get in there, he'll just keep going. And, like, he can do the scene without you sort of thing. So it's either, like, get yourself in there or you're, like, you know, he can do.

41:01Will Arnett:And you're in a Brooklyn accent for this? Yeah, Brooklyn accent. which is actually easier for an Aussie because we don't do, you know, we don't hit our R's like that. So, yeah, and then so I just started like I jumped in quick. I was like blah, blah, blah, blah and started screaming or whatever. And so I was like, okay, great. So we're doing this scene and now there's a bit of energy in the room and it's feeling good and I was like, okay, great. You know, and then there was the last scene, third scene to do, which ends in a line of now get over here and kiss me and then it's the end of the scene.

41:27And so we end up, you know, I was, I think, feeling a little buzz that I did well in the second scene. So by, I was, you know, a little more bolshy in this third scene. And we get to the end and it's like, okay, now get over here and kiss me. And I thought to myself, wow, I could kiss Leonardo DiCaprio right now. Like, that would be so cool. I could tell all my girlfriends back home that that happened. That would be like a life experience. And I was like walking towards him slowly, having this thought of like, maybe I'll just do it. Like, fuck it. And then I got close and I was like, nah, this character wouldn't do that.

41:59And I just went whack and slapped him instead. That's amazing. Dead silent. Like you could hear a pin drop. And I was like, oh my God, what have I just done? I'm going to get arrested. I think that's, you know, battery or like assault of some kind. Like, can I be sued? Do I go to jail for this? And then he and Marty just burst out laughing. That's great. That was amazing.

42:22Will Arnett:And then they said, you've got the job right there. And they said, do that again. Let's do the scene again. Do more improv. Do that again. and anyway, so we workshopped the scenes for a little bit and then I, you know, said thank you and I walked out of the room and I got in the elevator and I, like, took my heels off and I, like, did that, like, little silent jig dance to yourself, like, oh, my gosh, that was so fun, I can't believe that just happened and just as the elevator doors were about to close, Ellen Lewis was like, wait, come back into the room for one second. I was like, oh, okay, and I walked back in, my heels still in my hands and they were standing there, like, just smiling and I was like, what's up?

42:55and they were like, and Marty just, oh, Marty just held out his hands like this and goes, would like to offer you the role. And then gave me the biggest hug. And it was just, it was so incredible. And yeah. That's amazing.

43:09Will Arnett:Did they ever make the movie? What a dream. Yeah, did they end up making the movie, Sean wants to know? Yeah, they got that one off the ground. Well, now, okay. So that was an amazing story. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, that was really cool. The film is stunning. Your work in it is stunning. It was so well-received. Did things, I mean, a massive change for you in your life once that comes out, was that a comfortable thing? I mean, something you've been working for for a long time, this was a bigger step than you probably imagined happening? Were you able to kind of like step up to it and hit it in stride?

43:54Will Arnett:or was it a bit of an adjustment? Well, you know how it goes. It's like you make a movie and then it doesn't come out for a year. So your life kind of goes on for a year. And it didn't occur to me that I would, do you know what? I just didn't know I was going to be in the movie as much as I ended up being in it. I thought, because the set was so crazy and so much improvisation and so much like every day. It was like, we were like writing scenes the night before. Like my whole end sequence in that movie, we wrote like the night before in a room at like 3 a.m. We were like, it was meant to be just a scene where my character comes in and says, I want a divorce, and she puts some papers down.

44:26That's kind of it. And then we ended up kind of being like, oh, we need something more, and we workshopped this whole thing, that whole sequence. So by the nature of the filming process, I thought, you know, there's a lot of experimenting going on, a lot of improv going on. Like, I'm sure most of this isn't going to make the cut. So I thought, I wonder how much I'll be in this movie. And I didn't see it until the night before the premiere, so I had no idea. Oh, no way. Yeah. And then, so I didn't really prepare for it. And I thought, oh, I'll be like, you know, blink and you'll miss me sort of thing.

44:54Like I'll be in and out. Like I just didn't think anyone was going to pay attention to me in that movie at all. So I wasn't really, I wasn't, yeah. I mean, you've got Jonah Hill doing like the most incredible stuff. Everyone, like the cameos are endless. Like every day you'd come into work and people would be like, Matthew McConaughey is here today or like, you know, whatever. So, yeah, it just felt like I was one blip amongst a big canvas of, you know, chaos. And so, yeah, I didn't really brace myself for how things would change after that. And I'd already done a bunch of jobs in between, you know, because I had a year.

45:24So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, life got weird pretty quickly.

45:28Sean Hayes:Yeah, but then you go and you see it and you're like, wow. This is, I mean. Yeah, well, no, really I was thinking, I was like, oh, shit, my family is about to see this. Oh, no. I organized a friends and family screening and I like sat down and the credit started and I suddenly was like, oh, my God, I'm like naked and I'm fully naked and they're all about to see it. And I mean, there's scenes where we're like having sex on a bed of cash. Like my brother is right next to me. Like, oh no. I was like, this is going to be the most uncomfortable thing ever. I never forget at the end of that screening, I think my family were all a little bit stunned and like didn't know what to say, but felt like they should say congrats or something.

46:14And my older brother, he was quite a blokey bloke, you know, quite an Aussie bloke. he was just like uh uh like couldn't find the words and i was like you know what uh we don't have to talk for a while and he goes great and just like kind of gave me a hit on the back and then walked out and we didn't talk for like months after that and then when we did we never mentioned it again we're like let's never talk about that oh my god all right how soon after

46:40Will Arnett:that did you get pulled into the dc universe with harley quinn gosh that must have been Oh my gosh, that's right, Harley Quinn. Okay, so Wolf of Wall Street, 2012.

46:50Sean Hayes:Okay, you did the movie before that. You did the movie with, what's that great one you did with Will Smith? Focus. Oh, I love that movie. Yeah, it's so fun, isn't it? It's a great movie. You're so good in that movie. Oh, thank you. That was so fun. Yeah, it must have been right after, it must have been after Focus because Will and I had already done that movie and then we worked together again in the first Suicide Squad.

47:11Will Arnett:And then where was I, Tonya, in all this? I, Tonya, was after that. 2017 is when I, Tonya, either we filmed it or it came out in 2017. I think it came out in 2017. Yeah, that movie is so great. Your performances. I mean, everybody, you're probably so sick of talking about the one scene where they just hold on you in the mirror. No, I loved, because again, that was like an in-the-moment thing where, I don't know, we were set up and. Craig Gillespie, right? Yeah, Craig, who's the best, also on Ozzy. But yeah, I was kind of like, I was like, let me try something for a second. It might be lame, but let me try.

47:47Oh, my God, it was so powerful. That was incredible. And then afterwards, and I was like, was that too weird? And he was like kind of like really still, and he's never still. He's like, he is fast. Like you think, I thought shooting neighbors, he is fast. Anyways, and he was like very still, and he was like, that was something. And I was like, okay, cool. Do you want me to do? And he's like, don't do anything else. Let's move on. And I was like. Oh, wow. What a great feeling. That's the best.

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50:42Will Arnett:At what point did you start thinking, God, I would love to parlay some of this great access and position in the community into producing as well? Because you're such an accomplished producer. Your company, Lucky Chat. Thank you. was the first thing that we produced that came, well, it was actually the second movie we produced, but the first one that came out. So it was kind of kicked things off really nicely. I start, we started talking about the production company in 2013. So the year after Wolf of Wall Street. Okay. So after Wolf of Wall Street, before it had come out, I went off to Belgium to shoot this movie called Sweet Francaise, which I've actually never seen.

51:23And I met my two producer partners, one of whom I'm now married to. So Josie and Tom was second and third AD on that job. And we all became friends on that job. Yeah, Wolf Wall Street wasn't out yet. So that must have been 20, anyways, whatever. Very early on. And that's when we talked about starting a production company and we started the company the following year. And yeah, so it's, yeah, we've had it for like 11 years now.

51:47Will Arnett:I love that you work with your husband. I just think that's great. My wife and I are working together a bit now. And it's just so, I just love it. Oh, you love it? Okay, sorry.

51:57Sean Hayes:I didn't know which way you were going to go with that. And the look on your face.

52:01Will Arnett:You got kind of lost a little. Now, I'd love to get my spouse to play golf, too. I hear Tom can swing a golf club. He has tried to make me play golf so many times. No, don't bother. I'm going to play with him. Oh, please, please. He and I are going to become big golf buddies. Willie, he's coming on up. Oh, is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, oh, good. Tom on the board. Are you all golfers together? Are you all going to be golfing together? Yeah, we played it. This is adorable. I love it. Yeah, I mean, he's obsessed with golf. Like, I feel like every dude I know turned 30 and suddenly overnight was obsessed with golf.

52:36Like, I was like, I've never heard any of you talk about golf. It's a wonderfully difficult thing.

52:40Will Arnett:Yeah. And they all seem to hate it and themselves so much but want to do it all the time. It's such a weird, it seems to be a very toxic relationship. It is. It is a love-hate thing. It is, yeah. It's just an incredibly challenging thing that is hard to ignore. Yeah. It perplexes me. It really does. It really perplexes me. And I'm also like, you can love this thing without me. Like, this can be a thing that I don't need to play golf. I'm going to set you up with my wife. It seems nice. That is so, yeah, yeah.

53:06Sean Hayes:Amanda needs to hear that. Let's clip that for Amanda. Will you clip that for Amanda? Thank you. Margot, speaking of golf, I just had lunch two weeks ago, three weeks ago, on a golf course with a non-Christ. Oh, no way. Yeah, who is the CEO. The real-life CEO of Mattel. This real-life CEO of Mattel. And we were talking about you, and we were talking about Barbie, of course. And I'm like, how did that come? And he's like, he told me, because he's such a great guy. He's like, this is the pitch. Margot Robbie, Barbie. That was the pitch. What's that got to do with golf? Really? No, because we were having lunch on the golf course.

53:48What golf course? Will, which golf course was I at? Do you remember that? When you called me, I was like, I'm going to come. I was about to say, do you want me to start rattling them off? I hate that I know them all, but...

53:59Will Arnett:Because that's where he wanted to have lunch.

54:01Sean Hayes:Jason, why are you getting bogged down in the details?

54:03Will Arnett:I need to understand, how does Sean Hayes end up at Hillcrest? Oh, I got a pass. What is with the look on your face? Why are you so mad at him? Who has lunch at Hillcrest unless you're making the time? Are you mad? Are you not allowed at Hillcrest? No, a friend of ours set us up as just to have lunch. You guys would have a good time, so we had a good time, and I talked to him, and he's... Look at his face. Oh, yeah, people can only hear this. You can't see Jason's face right now. It is so bewilderment. And by the way, it's beautiful. It's gorgeous there. Yeah, it's hard to get out there. And you just thought you'd just have your sandwich out there.

54:37He's so mad. Anyway, Inan spoke very highly of you. He's such a good guy. And when he told me, the pitch was just you and Barbie. That's where it started. And then everything else just kind of snowballed from there, which is incredible.

54:50Will Arnett:So we're going to fly over Quentin Tarantino in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and we're going to go right to Barbie. Right to Barbie. No. We don't have to talk about Barbie. I just thought, what a coincidence you're here. And I had lunch with Inan. No, he made the golf collection. That's fair enough.

55:03Sean Hayes:That's a very good. We will allow. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. What a film. What a film.

55:10Will Arnett:It's a great film, isn't it?

55:11Sean Hayes:What a film.

55:12Will Arnett:Now, is being on a set with Quentin as exciting as it seems? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. It is everything. I'm a huge Tarantino fan. and it is, so I've read like, you know, all the folklore around making a movie with Quentin. Like he doesn't allow phones on set and da, da, da, da, da. It's all true and it's everything you'd want it to be and more. It was just the best. That's awesome. Awesome, awesome film. I so love that. I still can't believe, you're like, remember when that first, I think was it Cannes where it first was shown? Yeah. And he made some declaration to the press in like a really cool way saying, Listen, I know some directors say, you know, please watch the spoilers when you write these reviews and everything.

55:56Will Arnett:But he, like, made this, like, real, like, but I'm serious. Please try not to reveal the ending to everyone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I remember reading that and going, okay, this is never going to last. Somebody is going to spoil. But I remember that I made it to watching the movie, which was months later, without ever hearing what the ending was about. And was so excited by the reveal of what that ending was. and fucking loved the way that thing all wraps up. Just what a film. I know. Isn't that amazing that no one spoiled that? Yeah, I couldn't do this. That was like a separate part of the script that only a few of us were allowed to even have.

56:32And so like the crew didn't have, like it was kept so under lock and key because you really wanted to preserve that. And it's so impactful when you get to the end of the movie and you're like, holy shit, Sharon's live. Wait, this means Sharon Tate lives. Like this is such a great alternate universe. But I, you know, knowing how secret he wanted everything to be, I never breathed a word of how it ended. And at Cannes I brought my mum to watch the movie and I asked her afterwards, you know, we're all clapping and I was like, what did you think? And she goes, honestly, I have been dreading watching this movie because I did not want to see my daughter be killed in that way.

57:11Like, I know Tarantino movies are violent and, like, she's like, I know, and I didn't want to, you know, burst your bubble because you're clearly so excited about this, but like I've been dreading it. And she's like, I didn't know. Anyway, so Quentin was looking at me. He's like, did your mom like the movie? And I was like, oh, she was upset because she thought she was about to see me die. And he's like, you didn't tell your mom you don't die? And I was like, no, you told me not to tell anyone the ending of this movie. I didn't tell anyone. He was like, well, at least tell your mom. And I was like, oh, no.

57:36I didn't tell my husband. I didn't tell my mom. I didn't tell anyone how this movie ended. So, yeah, we were all in on keeping it secret.

57:44Will Arnett:All right, so Barbie. The behemoth of Barbie, it comes into your world in sort of a typical way, like kind of through the regular sort of channels, or is it something that you pursued? No, not really. I mean, no, we pursued it. Like as the company, as Lucky Chap, we went after it. We knew that the agreement, you know, it was set up already over at Sony. There had been versions of it, et cetera, et cetera. And then their time was kind of up. Well, Jason, we've done a Hollywood.

58:12Sean Hayes:Don't worry, he knows the deal. Amy Schumer, you know, blah, blah, blah. He was in a turnaround for a while.

58:18Will Arnett:He knows the deal. A bunch of money against it. Exactly. But there was, you know, like they had to kind of re-up the deal sort of thing. And so that was the opportunity to get in there and say, can we take it? And so we kind of made our pitch to Enon, Sean's friend. So we made the pitch to him. We're like, let Lucky Chap produce this. Let us have this. We'll set it up at Warner Brothers so there's no chain of titles issue. with whatever they've previously developed at Sony. This is before Greta and Noah? Yeah, before Greta and Noah. So it was just us. So then your take then was, sorry to interrupt, but your take, because the reason it's sort of, it is relevant and interesting that it had this life beforehand was that obviously the version at Sony with Amy would be wildly different than what you guys were doing.

59:07Will Arnett:Because think about it, like, that's what Mattel, they've got all this great IP and they're just like games or in this action figure. And it's like, how do you come up with a movie about that? You have to have a take. What's the angle going to be? What's it going to be about? And with Barbie, it's so loaded to like, you can have a cultural reference to it, some sort of societal comment, all this stuff. So what was your take? So this is before you had the writer and the director. Did you have a clear idea about what you wanted to say with this and then that informed where you looked for a writer and a director?

59:44To be honest, the first hurdle was getting them to let us have it.

59:49Will Arnett:Right. And so really those first conversations were about making sure Enon and Mattel knew that we would protect the brand and take care of it, but also do something meaningful with it. And we were quite honest in that first meeting of like, if we're doing a Barbie movie, we're going to be saying something and it has to be culturally relevant and this has to be elevated and cinematic and all the things. But do understand, like, we're going to be making comments with the movie sort of thing. So obviously we'll do that with someone who's very smart. Like, I did pitch Greta in the meeting. I was like, you know, like a Greta Gerwig.

1:00:25Yeah, so smart. Who I had spoken to previously about other films and stuff. And she, I think at the time, was filming Little Women, but she had done Lady Bird. Anyways, and so, yeah. So first, step one really was just like letting them know that we understood how important this property is to them, that we would, you know, be good partners to them. And then also like, yeah, then it was setting up the studio and then it was going after Greta and being like, do you want to do a Barbie movie? And then it was about what her take was really. It was never me being like, I have a take. Do you want to do this?

1:00:59It was like, I trust you to have something. I bet you have something to say. what would you want to say with a Barbie movie with me? And then it kind of went from there. And her and Noah, their writing process is fascinating, but they don't really like plot out. They don't outline a whole thing and then send in an outline. You know what you're going to get. They don't really know how it's going to end. They write as they go. They write themselves in corners. They write themselves out of corners. So getting the studio and Mattel to sign off on the movie and get them paid to commence because then it was COVID too and I was like, they need to be writing right now.

1:01:33and they were like well what's the movie without giving a full

1:01:34Will Arnett:beginning middle and end yeah and everyone's feeling very protective over this thing and want to know what it is and what they're paying for and all that kind of stuff and it was yeah it was kind of yeah I think it was probably the best bit of producing we ever did was getting getting that whole all those deals treatment deals you know no approval over the script but approval over the treatment like all this kind of stuff so that they

1:01:55Sean Hayes:you gotta do you gotta convince a lot of people that's sort of like just trust us just trust us it was completely just trust us and also leave them alone. Like you cannot, they're not going to get on the phone with you and tell them, they're not going to pitch you. Like we have to leave them alone. That's their process.

1:02:08Will Arnett:It says a lot about Mattel and Warner Brothers for taking that risk and like that's a lot of courage. For sure. It's so great that it worked out so well for them. Yeah. I mean, huge. I mean, I asked the dumb questions if you haven't picked up on that yet. So will there be a sequel? Well, there could be. Because I mean, why wouldn't there be? But Greta's been, I mean, I'm open. There's no plans at the moment, but I'm open to it. I'm open to anything with Greta, to be honest. But she's been doing Narnia for ages. I can't wait for that. Cool. She's been really intensely into it. I love them too. I love that.

1:02:47Have you ever read a book series called The Magicians? It's like this grown-up dark version of Narnia. No, but I will. It's so good. Yeah.

1:02:56Sean Hayes:Tell Sean what channel it's on and he'll watch it for fun. books they're books wait the magicians oh wow is it is it is it the same tone as the narnia book it's well it just it's like i love fantasy books i read a lot of fantasy and it's a really good oh good well then check them out i mean it's just but it's got it's very much seeped in like narnia law which i which i why don't you why doesn't your production company option those books well actually if i'm going to option anything i read a lot of like i said a lot of fantasy but i read a lot of romantic books as well. So I think since our brand is very like female focused, there's some other romantic books that I'd rather go after.

1:03:36Will Arnett:Well, that's getting us right to Wuthering Heights. Yeah. Yeah. With the divine Jacob Elordi. What a nice guy. I just met him the other day. What a really, really nice kid. And by the way, sidebar, we just had Charlie XCX on and she did the music for it. She did an entire album. Yeah. Her whole album is called Wuthering Heights. For Wuthering Heights. Yeah. And another collaboration with you and Emerald Fennell. Yes. Third film together. So we produced Promising Young Woman, then Salt Burn, and now this is her third film and our third film together. She's only been in the States for 16 years. I know.

1:04:13Will Arnett:Look at all of this. That's amazing. It's so great. It is great. So Wuthering Heights, you're a big softie with the romance stuff. Did this come out?

1:04:24Sean Hayes:It's the ultimate romance. It's the ultimate. Yeah, yeah. It's much like your relationship with golf. It's like you just can't help it, even though it's destroying you on some level. Thank you for putting it in a context that we can understand.

1:04:37Will Arnett:Thank you. I'm currently in a divorce with golf right now. I'm working. I'm on a break. I'm dedicated to my life right now. But, okay, so now you've seen the film. Many times, yes. Do you cry every time? Every time. I have never watched it and not cried. This is so great. And I, and like, it's, it's, yeah, it's so good. It's like, I mean, it's just, I'm so excited that everyone's about to see it because it's incredible. It's coming out on Valentine's Day, right? Perfect Valentine's, Valentine's plan. Yeah, if you don't have plans. Friday, February 13th. It did come out three days ago. Yeah, February.

1:05:19Will Arnett:Because it's February 16th today, you guys. It's out now. It's February 16th today? Okay, guys, if you haven't seen it yet, go to... Okay, so does that mean, is it the Monday? Is it the public holiday today? Okay, you've got time. Go to the movies right now. As soon as I slap this laptop down, I'm going. I'm going to bring the tissues. Yes, it's President's Day weekend.

1:05:38Sean Hayes:It's President's Day. It's Valentine's. It's a big weekend. Go out and see it today. Today. Go see it. It's just an incredible film. Like, it really, really is. and it's so moving and evocative and provocative at times, but it's, I don't know, I really think it's going to make people feel.

1:05:58Will Arnett:And what about, did you, because chemistry with an actor is so vital, especially I would imagine if you're doing some sort of a romantic film with someone. And did you do some research about, like, did you call around with people that, or did you know Jacob from Saltburn? So, yeah, I knew him in a kind of like a producer-actor dynamic from Saltburn and always thought he was so lovely and so talented. I mean, I was the very, when I read Saltburn, it's the first thing I said, I was like, Jacob Elordi should play Felix. I was such a fan of his work from Euphoria back then. So then you knew you two would get along.

1:06:39Well, we're also from, he's from Brisbane and I'm from the Gold Coast. So we're from like an hour away from each other. We're both Queenslanders. So I don't know. I had a feeling I was like, we're both Queenslanders. We'll be best names. It'll be great. He's also, he's just so good. And I think what really helps is we approach our work in a very similar way. And I think that really helped. And I think when it comes to chemistry. And how is that? Well, we're both very, like, we take it very seriously. We do a lot of prep. We do a lot of work. You know, like, we're both on set with, like, notebooks and writing and notes.

1:07:14Oh, okay. You know, like, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I don't know. And we were kind of, to be honest, I think we were kind of set up for success because the script was so good. I mean, Emerald's an Oscar-winning screenplay writer. The script was unbelievable. We had, you know, then the source material has been, you know, adored for almost 200 years. Then you've got Emerald's take of it and her writing's incredible and she's plucking out lines and stuff in the book too. And then you've got, you know, some of the industry's best designers, cinematographers, production designers, costume designers, all that kind of stuff.

1:07:51You know, we had all the elements.

1:07:53Will Arnett:Where'd you shoot it? We shot in London and then on the moors in Yorkshire. So our series were up there. And so, yeah, I mean, we kind of had it all there and it all came together and we get along and it was, yeah, it was just great. It was so great. I can't wait. I know. I'm so excited. We do that together. I mean, you're so, I'm so taken with you. You seem so charming and warm, as I said, at the beginning. And grounding. You're just such a pleasure. You're just a farm girl. Yeah. That's all. What knocks you off balance? When are you not charming? When are you not? Like, what would Tom tell us is really your kryptonite?

1:08:37Will Arnett:Yeah. When I'm hungry. Oh, yeah. I'm not charming when I'm hungry. And I'm almost always hungry, to be honest. I get hangry. Yeah. He calls me Dragoon sometimes. He's like, he knows. He's like, I need to feed the dragon. Does he cook for you? Yeah, he's an amazing cook. Is he? Yeah, he could be a chef. He's so good. Really? Really? I want to know how to cook. God damn it. You guys will be golf besties. you can, oh, don't he get me? You think he loves gold. You should see what he does with the big green egg. He's, oh my God. I'll steal him. It's his other mistress. I'll just take him. Yeah, take him.

1:09:09Take him. He'll love it. What's your go-to meal? If you're like, honey, I'm really hungry. You know, I fixed my favorite thing. You know what it is. What is it? To be honest, he can cook a steak better than any restaurant can. Like, it's almost ruined getting a steak. Oh, I don't know what he does, but it's magic. He does that in the green egg? Oh, he'll do it. Oh, no, I think he does a bit of an oven slash reverse sear in a skillet pan situation for his steaks, but he can do it on the green egg as well. Somebody made me a hamburger once and put an egg on it with blue cheese. I was like, no thanks.

1:09:43No, that's cool. Save it for the book.

1:09:50Will Arnett:Margo, yeah, this is Margo's time, Sean. Thank you so much for joining us today. I know you've got a lot of press in front of you I appreciate all the time and best of luck with the film we're going to watch it this afternoon we're all going together are you actually?

1:10:10Sean Hayes:we're going to go to Century City this afternoon oh yes of course it's the 16th day yes go watch it together you're our core demographic so enjoy tell me where you are so great meeting you thank you for doing this good luck with the play as well Sean oh thank you honey thank you so much So sweet of you. All right, guys. Hopefully, we'll see you soon. See you soon. Thanks, Mark. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

1:10:36Will Arnett:Oh, I mean, I need a shower. All the negativity and just the chill.

1:10:43Sean Hayes:She is something else, man. She's a... I mean, what an angel. The career. I mean, bam, bam, bam. Movie, big movie, big movie, big movie, big movie. I know. And she just got here like five minutes ago. And when she said she was on Pan Am, I felt like that was like five years ago. What was it, like 15 years ago? But if you just look at like she just so hit the ground running coming here. You know what I mean? And just doing quality things after quality things. Always really good in everything she does. And I think what's almost impossible to get my head around is, Sean, you parking at Hillcrest and then you go over to the patio to have lunch?

1:11:23Sean Hayes:Like, what? Indoors or outdoors?

1:11:25Will Arnett:What is going on? How did you get in there?

1:11:27Sean Hayes:How you got there is just for Jason will take this for the rest of his days. But wait, how you ended up at Hillcrest Country Club.

1:11:35Will Arnett:I can play there, but as a guest. Okay, so why?

1:11:37Sean Hayes:Is it hard to get in?

1:11:38Will Arnett:I'm not like, I can't call in and have a fucking lunch date there. I'm not a member. So you have to be a member to have lunch there. He's so mad. Was the Mattel guy a member there? His name is Inan. No, a friend of ours was. A mutual friend of ours. Two fucking non-members having a business meeting. Unbelievable. All right, getting back into it. This woman, an incredible actor, incredible producer, I think will just be at the tip top of our profession for a very, very long time. Right, talented, beautiful, smart, all those things. Oh, you have something to say, Sean. Yeah, I do, just really quick.

1:12:16Out of all the movies that I would have ever guessed would make out of all of her movies on her resume. Still rolling. All of her movies on her resume that would have made over a billion dollars. I would have never guessed it would have been... Bar-bye. Bar-bye. I can't believe it. No, no, no. Let me explain to you

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1:12:35Sean Hayes:Wait, at least go bye, Tanya. Oh, shit. That's better.

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