"Mike Tirico"

27:59Jurgen Trouble. I'm a huge fan of his. Is that a Chris Berman nickname? Yeah, Jurgen Trouble. Sean just does it on the first name stuff. I had the great fortune of being able to spend a little bit of time with him the past year. I got to go over to Anfield and you walk into that stadium and you listen. First of all, and I went to Chelsea as well. My friend joked that I went to watch Tottenham lose twice in a week. I went to Stanford Bridge, but I went to Anfield and I was sitting up there and I was sitting in front of Sir Kenny Doglish and the stand opposite us is the Sir Kenneth Doglish stand.

28:32Yeah. Okay. And he was a former player manager legend and a Liverpool legend and a really tremendous guy. He's sitting right behind me with his wife and they start playing at Anfield. You never walk alone, which is their anthem. And the whole stadium is singing, you know, the 60 ,000 people saying you never walk alone. And I turn around and his wife who must have heard it 50 ,000 times in her life because her husband was a player manager and i look back and she's dabbing her eyes it's so cool and i thought like and it was so incredible it was so moving so so moving there's something about the way that you're right that they celebrate that well there's something will there's something about sports like most of us never meet the athletes who we wear their jerseys you know the the old the old hockey line you know go to a hockey game especially where i live in michigan and you got a bunch of people walking around with other guys' last names on their back, right?

29:24Right, right, right. But it's the one place, not only is it acceptable, it's encouraged. And it shows that you're a real fan, right? And it brings people together that don't know each other. Well, that's it. That's the last thing we have, right? I think so, too. My stump speech about sports and the value of sports is, let's go to New Orleans for a Saints game. And let me take one section of the Superdome. And I'm going to get black and white. I'm going to get male and female. I'm going to get straight and gay. I'm going to get different religions. I'm going to get everybody in that section. And they're all wearing some black and gold for the saints.

30:00And that doesn't happen at the opera. It doesn't happen at the movies. That's why I still think sports has this place, whereas everything's become so fractured. People still love their sports like nothing else. Mike, has anybody ever said this to you? Because this is my own personal experience, is that no matter what's going on in my life, we all have ups and downs, as you said. We have moments in the family, whatever. And the one thing that I can do to kind of self-regulate is I come home and if I can turn on sports, I kind of go, everything's okay. Yeah, me too. Right? Do you do that? It settles me.

30:33Yeah, both of you check out when sports are on. And I love nothing more than primetime sports. When you put on a game that's on at night, it's like watching this old house on PBS on a Sunday afternoon. Oh, Sean. That, but good. We're having a good conversation here. I'm an HGTV guy, Sean, if you want to know the truth Sean, you turn me on to that show No, I like this old house, David Wait, Mike, where are you from? I'm from Queens, from New York Grew up as a New Yorker You know, lived in the Northeast most of my life Does that make you a Mets fan? I wasn't, a Mets and a Jets fan Yeah, of course What did we say was?

31:11You had to be agnostic as you went into your profession? Well, the Mets thing was I just wanted to see them win the World Series once in my life and they did and I kind of outgrew it. It's like an allergy. You know, they say, hopefully you'll outgrew it. So I've saved myself generations of pain after that. And then the rest of it, really, you do become agnostic. People say, well, how can you watch a game and not root? There's one team in sports that I root for and that's Syracuse. That's my alma mater. Right, gotcha. My god kid goes there. Oh, really? No, no way. The orange man, right? Awesome.

31:44We're the orange. We used to be the orange men and women. Now we're just the orange. Now just the orange. All right. It could be a color, a fruit, or a spirit. You take your pick. My godson lives in America.

31:57Continental. The continental and the contiguous. You strike me as a fella that would have great chemistry with anyone because you're such a kind guy. But I'll bet Chris Collinsworth doesn't make it difficult. He seems like just about the best guy in the world. I've talked to him a couple of times, but not longer than what I'm talking with you. But still, he seems just incredible. Is he as nice a guy as he seems to work with? A thousand percent. I'll give you just a quick anecdote. You do this so you kind of know people, but you're not around them. Then I start working at NBC, and I get to be around Chris a little bit more, and I get to know him.

32:37Chris and Al Michaels were a terrific team doing Sunday Night Football for a long time. Al is a buddy of Will and I's. We love Al to death. Yeah, he's great. On the Mount Rushmore. One of the best, if not the best, in every sport to ever do it, right? Yep. So I get to start working with Chris. And, you know, Chris made it so easy for me. It's like, hey, do the game you do. We can do things a little bit different. It's fine. And he's that way professionally, but he's also that way personally. Chris, his wife Holly, they're kids. They've become friends of me, my wife, our kids. And that helps because when you're on the air on Sunday night, you're just sitting with a friend watching a game.

33:19Yeah, that's what it feels like. And I think that makes it easy on Sunday night at 9 o 'clock. You're not listening to two people trying to compete. We're trying to be our parts in the symphony. Yeah, no, you guys nail it because that's exactly the feeling that I get when I sit down to watch the game with you guys is that it just feels like you're right there in the cozy, you know, on the couch right there with us. But, you know, the reason it happens like that is— Is because Jason's on a gummy? Oh, no, sorry. Everything just feels so smooth. It feels like I'm right there. I can hear you in my head.

33:50Wait, Mike, where do you mostly work out? Where do you live now and then where do you work out of mostly? Come on, Sean. Where do you work from mostly? I work most of the week in my house. I live in Michigan. And then we travel to the games. Usually for Sunday night football, we'll travel on Friday. For the Olympics, we'll get there a week before the opening ceremony. You're not sick of traveling back and forth? Like, you like where you live? It's a lot. It's a lot. But I've come to love America. I love the fact that I can be dropped in like 40 cities in America, and I don't need a map. I know where the restaurants are.

34:25I know where you can go for a walk. That is cool. That is cool. It is really cool. I really do feel like I've seen and know our country because, you know, you spend three days in Minneapolis. You spend three days in Chicago, three days in New England. That's cool. I love it. I really do. Now, was there an obstacle? Everybody's got a nice obstacle at the very start that they kind of decide they're either going to push through or they're going to hit fuck it and try something else. Was there something that almost derailed the great Mike Tirico? I always wanted to call games, what I'm doing now, right?

34:58And my bosses told me, you know, you're a studio guy. We need you in the studio. So I volunteered to do games on my day off on Saturday. Wow. And work a six-day during the basketball season to get a chance in 94 to start doing games. And that's what I always wanted to do. And I'm like, I'm going to prove to you guys that I'm good enough. And it took a couple years. And then in the end of 96, one of our bosses went to ABC. And then he said, hey, you told me that you wanted to start doing some other stuff. Would you like to do some golf? Two events in 96. And then 97, I got to do golf at ABC. and the best thing about starting golf in 1997, that was Tiger's first full year of playing golf.

35:41Wow. So I got right in when the Tiger era started and golf just freaking took off. Oh, my God. We'll be right back. Can I just say something about the Tiger era so that we can, because there's been, you know, there's a lot of stuff. That time, we had the privilege, and people say, oh, you like Tiger Woods? I'm like, we had the privilege of watching one of the all-time great athletic careers that's ever graced this planet. And we got to watch it in prime, as you say, JB, in prime time. It was all recorded. We got to see every shot. And I thought, what a privilege we had to watch this guy play at the top of his game.

36:21It was incredible. And Mike calling the British Open. And Mike, you called it. I had a bunch of them. I think I've done like 60, 65 or 66 majors and Tigers played in most of them. Wow. And he's just so, a cover to call, I should say. And, like, the energy around Tiger is different from any other athlete, even Jordan. Now, Jordan was, Michael was in a team sport, right? Yeah. And there was still this incredible energy and juice around Michael when he was there. Sure. But when Tiger was 100 yards away, you could just feel it. You could just see the pack of people following him. Watching people try to go hole by hole, shot by shot to see Tiger was hysterical.

37:01people tripping over each other and trying to run ahead. It was a phenomenon that lasted for a full couple of decades. It was one of the most fascinating things we've ever seen. You know, Sean, it's hard to appreciate it if you're not a fan of, like you don't follow golf or whatever. But to understand, to appreciate his winning percentage on that sport compared to other people when he was at his prime, it was like nothing anybody had ever seen. It blew everything else. I don't understand the eye-brain-body coordination to get it right so many times. Yeah, I mean, he's just incredibly gifted. But what has been almost totally forgotten is how rare it was for a black athlete to be doing this in what was traditionally a white world.

37:46It was just, I mean, there was Calvin Peet, for sure. There was... Charlie Sifford, Lee Elder. Yeah, exactly. Those were a couple of black golfers that were on the stage. In hundreds of years, like one of the oldest sports ever, games ever, there were just a handful that you could look to. But then they come and dominate the way he did. And just dominate. Dominate. Exactly. It was like Michael Jordan. And the thing about his dominance that was so cool to me was when he got the lead, he always closed. He always, all but twice, he always closed the deal going into the final round. And guys spit up the lead every other week, usually, on tour.

38:27if not more than that, and every week. So he had the impact that Jack Nicklaus had because if his name was on the leaderboard, people would watch. I was just at an event with Tom Watson a couple of weeks ago, and he said, you know, when you saw Nicklaus' name on the board, you're like, uh-oh. Uh-oh. And when you're thinking about somebody else, you're defeated. You're half defeated. And the ratings, too. If those guys make the cut, I'm sure your weekend ratings, it's a huge difference. So a lot of people talk about Caitlin Clark. and what she's done with women's basketball and the ratings are the likes of which we've never seen before.

39:03She's had an impact on that sport like Michael did in the NBA and Tiger did just in terms of this. They blew the roof and the ceiling off of where the ratings were. And that'll be the mark that's going to be so hard to get for years to come because it was just the first time people have seen it. They wanted to be there and watch it. And there was something captivating about them. and they took it to a height that I don't think you'll see in other sports again. Yeah, but meanwhile, which I'm sure that they'd all be very proud of, they have exposed a ton of people that wouldn't otherwise have been exposed to the game.

39:36And once they're gone, those people are now already into the game and they're going to watch the next athletes that come through. So they're broadening the appeal of the sport. I mean, what Jordan did for basketball globally, right, him and David Stern working hand in hand, you know, is just astounding. Legacy doesn't happen when you try to make it happen. Legacy happens when what you do naturally just brings people from all corners because there's something unique and captivating about you. And that's what happened with Jordan and that's what happened with Tiger. You mentioned just Tiger being black and in a sport that had been so dominated by white players and country clubs and membership and all that stuff, which I think Tiger's presence helped change over time.

40:21To the point where we don't even think about that anymore. It's like a forgotten fact. Well, I don't think it still exists. No, but I mean, it's become, I don't know how to put this, but it was such an anomaly back then. Yes, that's good. And now there are so many incredible, there's been such an expansion to the sport now. Yeah, I thought Tiger was going to change the sport that way. and you'd see a lot more minorities playing and becoming the best players what he did instead his his athletic legacy in the sport beyond his records he made golf cool and now guys who are 6-1 6-2 6-3 started playing golf and you look at the major change guys like Brooks Koepka Tony Finau etc you get like some big guys who are now playing golf yeah who would not have played the sport back before Tiger.

41:17It wasn't cool to be one of these big athletes who could be a tight end or a shooting forward in basketball. And that, I think, is Tiger's long-term impact on the sport itself. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great point. That's a great point. Well, it definitely attracted a big guy like me, you know? Yeah. Otherwise, Will would have never gone there. My nickname is Big Boy. Yeah, go ahead, Sean. This is a standard Sean question for Mike Tirico. What's like, you know, the worst or most memorable or most embarrassing moment happened to you live that you called or you said something that you, like not regret, but like that, or that just was cracked everybody up and you were like, why did I just say that?

41:55Sean, you got some wood there? I'm going to knock on it, man. I have gotten through 36 years of doing this without really having a major all-time YouTube screw-up. I'll find one. Here come the Olympics. Mike, you got yourself all teed up. And I'm going to blame Sean. It's all on Sean. There was one time I was doing a TV show, a sportscast in Syria, because I have a nut allergy, and I was about to get sick, and I got away from the camera before that happened. So nothing's happened in front of a camera. You just blew it out? You blew it out. Got it. If you want the detail, Sean, thank you. Now, are you as excited for the Olympics as I am?

42:38I'll bet you are much more because you know much more about it than I do. But just the little that I've read about it, it sounds like Paris is going to do something with this that we've never seen before. Like I think the whole, what, the opening ceremony takes place on the Seine, right? On the river. Yep. The events are taking place at all of the incredible monuments there, like volleyballs underneath the Eiffel Tower. Right. And surfing is in Tahiti, you know, because it's a French, you know. Along with French Polynesia, man. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They're going to do the surfing in Tahiti?

43:13In Tahiti? Yes, sir. Because it's a French surf. No, I get that. I understand that. I have a full, but I'm surprised. Why wouldn't they just do it like down in Biarritz? Well, because it's not as sexy, man. That's right. That's exactly right. This is why you're not running things, Will. Well, no, but I might go to Paris. We begged, oh, man, you should. We begged our bosses. Can we just host the whole Olympics from Tahiti? something going on there right which is you know who cares what the background is right but i mean it's got to be you guys are just probably trying to figure out what what how do we cover all the things we want to cover right it's going to be look paris is one of two things either you've been there and you can't wait to go back or you've never been there and you want to go right yeah yeah and the olympics needs this in the biggest way if you think back the last three olympics have been in Asia.

44:05We had the 2018 Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea. Yeah. Then COVID denied Tokyo 2020. So that was held in 2021. COVID, no fans. Yeah. And then Beijing held the Winter Games in the winter of 2022, February. Again, no fans. Yeah. So we've had two Olympic Games with no fans. What do you mean? What do you mean no fans? COVID. Oh, because people didn't. I see. Got it. Got it. Because of COVID, there were no fans. And like you guys were mentioning this. Somebody mentioned it before. You work your whole life to make the Olympics. It's four years of training for a minute, two minutes, whatever it ends up being for some of the athletes.

44:41You want your family there. And none of the families could go to Tokyo or to Beijing to the last summer and winter games. So that is one of the things that I am more excited about. So is this the first time it's going to be back in full force with just everything and the way it's televised and the fans and everything? Correct. This will be the first time that fans are in the stands at the Olympics since February of 2018. So six years and about five months or six months. Wow, that's pretty cool. I like the way you put that, Mike. I think you're right. The Olympics need this. Yes. They need Paris to work.

45:15They need it to be good. They need to be successful. It will be. I think it will be. It probably will. Where are the next Winter Olympics? Well, the next Winter Olympics are Milan and Cortina, Italy in 2026. And then L.A. is the next summer. And that's why, to what Will was just saying, that's why I think this is a big games for the Olympic movement. And it's in a great place in Paris because, as you mentioned, the backgrounds. Paris is just such an aspirational city. But LA 2028, we haven't had a Summer Olympics year since Atlanta back in the late 90s. And we haven't had the Olympics in the U.S.

45:52since Salt Lake in 2002. So if you're 30, right, so 26 years between Olympics and the U.S., If you're 30, you don't ever remember the Olympics being contested in America. Right. So now you're 30 or under. Well, you're speaking my language. Yeah, I don't remember that. You look terrible, though, Sean, for 25. Sean told me once he went to Paris, he went to Lamy-Louis, you know, for dinner, and he had an Olympic movement after that, he said. Oh. Yeah. Because he had the steak and the chicken. Yeah, all the reins came out. All the reins. It was the duck. It was the duck. It was the fries they cook in goose fat, which, by the way, love me, Louie, nobody does it better.

46:28It's a very American, but it's still great. It's still great. Well, all right, you convinced me, Mike. I'm going to come to Paris this summer. Don't give me your number, Mike. Don't give me your number. Let's free tickets. No, I'm going to come, and I'll share duties with you at the desk. Here we go. You can? You want to host? Go ahead. Do you? You know who's with me? Who's that? Snoop. No way. No way, really? Really? Oh, no, no. Snoop is, it's not just like Snoop's going to show up. for one second. Snoop is part of our coverage. And he is all in on this, man. I love Snoop. He is such a great dude.

47:01He just performed at Jimmy Buffett's memorial, you know, that concert we did. He was unbelievable. He's such an unbelievably great guy. But where did that come from, Mike? Was that your idea? No, no. I wish it was. So we'll go back a few years ago to the last Summer Games. And we're trying to, you know, we have Peacock as part of the NBC family. It's our streaming service. So we're trying to figure out what shows can we do Olympic-related on Peacock. So Kevin Hart and Snoop did Olympic highlights, their version of Olympic highlights. They did like a couple of nights during the games. And Snoop, it's a great YouTube clip of Snoop and the equestrian.

47:39It's like a crip walk, right? So that's where the relationship started. Then the conversations continued. And he's going to be a part of it. So here's the deal. Like the Olympics are going to happen live. We used to hold events and just say, hey, we'll show it to you at night, right? That doesn't happen anymore. Everybody's got a phone. They can find out what happens. So everything's going to be live during the day. It's a six-hour time difference. Yes, thank God. It's going to be great. So at night, you're going to be showing everything that happens. So we're going to try to do a little bit of the storytelling, a little bit of the behind the scenes, give you a little bit of flavor of Paris.

48:14And who better to snoop around Paris than Snoop? So we're in. Let's go. Very, very good. That's really cool. Is the family going to go with you? My family's going to come. They've been denied the last two Olympics, which is kind of a bummer. It's the fourth time that I'm the primetime host, and they haven't been able to come to any of them. So they're going to come over for a week or so and get to a tour. I won't see them, but they'll have a great time. And they'll have a great time because they won't see me, actually. Are your kids loving what you do? Like, are they interested? Or what's your favorite thing to do as a family?

48:49uh it's a great question be together at our lake house in michigan now because because we're away so much with my travel we have we have kids who've graduated college just finished wrapping up their college careers so that's nice you're not old enough for college grads yeah we're we're old people now so um just just you know when and a lot of people who are listening who have older kids like when your kids become your friends too yeah yeah it's so cool so so that that is like i I can't wait to do that. And I'm excited that they're going to get a chance to do some of this. They come to some of the football games from time to time.

49:22And, you know, you get a chance to be around it. And they love sports. They both played sports in high school and were big sports fans. We're in a sports house. It's always the topic of conversation. A game's always on. So they're all in on it and they love it. How did you get to Michigan? That's where my wife is from. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, she was an all-state softball and basketball player in Michigan. And we moved back near her family back in the late 90s. And I've been here for a long time. It's funny because she asked me a few years ago, do you consider yourself a Northeasterner, being born in the Northeastern school?

49:56I'm like, nah, I'm a Midwest guy. I love living, especially doing what I do. I love not living on either coast. It's good to be part of the flyover world and just represent us every once in a while. Yeah, I get that. I get that. That makes sense. I bet it's a nice way of living. It is. When you do the Olympics, you end up doing a lot of interviews too, as well as calling events. Do you have a preference or do you like them both equally? So in the Olympics, I don't call events. I'm hosting. So I just do the daytime and then the primetime hosting. And I love when athletes win medals and they come to sit on the couch with their medals on.

50:34Right, yeah. Because you just get, like that's the moment they dream of, right? And not necessarily sitting with me, but just being there and being interviewed. You've got the little fireplace going. Yeah, the winter fireplace, the summer this year would be the Eiffel Tower in the background. And they just got this heavy metal around their neck and they're just sitting there. And I've loved that. Every time I see an Olympic athlete and get a chance to talk to them or interview them, I always end it with like, hey, I hope I get to interview you with a metal around your neck, right? No matter what color metal it is.

51:03And it's just so – that's like one of the terms that translates everywhere. You can be in a village in Africa. You can be in Australia. you can be anywhere Olympian translates and the coolest part of that opening ceremony which you mentioned before is going to go down the river Seine with boat parade of the athletes it's going to be very different hopefully it'll be spectacular it's going to be in Seine no come on you guys this is in Seine it's going to be in Seine for most of the athletes that's their Olympic moment because they don't get on the podium and sing their anthem I mean, only about 350 or a little bit less than that win gold medals.

51:44So their moment is being in the opening ceremony with all the best athletes in the world who made it there. I get a little melancholy and a little sappy about it, but it's so dang cool. If you could have anybody on that couch, it doesn't need to be an Olympic couch, but talking to any athlete, alive or dead, that you haven't interviewed, do you ever think about one that you'd love to sit across from and ask some questions to? that I haven't interviewed? Yeah. Or maybe one you'd like to interview again that you forgot to ask certain questions to. No, that's a really good question. I'd like to talk to Babe Ruth.

52:22Yeah, yeah. I'd like to talk to Babe Ruth because, like, you know, here 100 years ago, you had no idea people would still be talking about you. It'd be a candy bar named after you. Or that no one else would be a pitcher and a hitter until Shohei Otani. Otani, right? Exactly, right? What do you think of Otani, babe? You know, with AI, we could probably do that. I think he's a hell of a kid. Hey, Mike, I'm here for you. Ask me another one. I've had 12 bottles of beer and I'm ready to play. Put me in. Did Ty Cobb actually spike you, babe, when he slid into it? Yes, he did. Well, I ate two steaks and took a nap and let's go.

53:02I ate 16 bottles of beer. Let's hit a ball. But think about it. It's 100 years later. You say Babe Ruth. Everybody knows, right? And that's the era before any of sports in its popularity level existed. Yeah, talk about a community game. In those days, it really was. It was a team for your little area around there. Can I ask you guys a France question? Yes. Has anybody been to Normandy? No. I have not. I would like to. I've not. And Will, I know Will would love to. He's a real student of history. I am. Massive. I would say, you know, and we've gone a couple of times, I would say if you had to ask me what's the place you've been as an American that has impacted you, it's going to Normandy.

53:48And here we are, 80 years of D-Day, that anniversary in June. And, man, when you sit there and see and read and hear the stories, and when you sit there and look at that cemetery with the white churches and the hill, it's one of the most powerful things that I've ever done. And every time I think of France, and we went to do a little pre-Olympic story a few months ago, we went down to Normandy just to go back. It was the third time I had a chance to be there. And it is the most powerful thing. Anybody who's listened, if you ever are blessed enough to be in France, you have the chance to go. as an American you need to go.

54:22Just the geography, that bluff, what they were up against, just the physicality of that. They all had all those, some of those beaches were, and some of those stories that were never, that haven't been told widely too. There are some of those stories that haven't been, but it's incredible. I agree with you. I've never been to Normandy. I can't believe it. It's strange. You're welcome to go. Because I do have read so much about it. Work that into your trip on your way to go see Mike in the booth in Paris. I'm coming to see us. I'm coming to see Mike. Well, I got to go to Portugal, so I might go to Paris.

54:50Okay, let's see if you can work it in. Thank you for an hour of your professional time. Yeah, this is your personal time. Very, very nice to do this. Hall of Famer Mike Tirico. This was an honor, guys. Thank you. Keep making this laugh, will you please? Thanks, guys. Cheers. Well, you keep delivering these stories. All right. Thank you, buddy. We'll see you on the TV soon. For sure. Thanks, guys. Bye, pal. Thank you. See you, Mike. Bye. Well, I mean, that guy, you know. Nice. He's a good conversationalist. Well, he's a professional on-air fellow. Yeah, he's on air on television. I tell you what, people say, what kind of superhero power would you like?

55:26Well, I'd like to fly. What kind of job would you like? If I could pick one job, I think I'd take his job. You love that. I thought you said that about late night TV. Well, but I don't get to go to... I thought you said that about doing a multi-cam... I guess I want a bunch of jobs. Why don't you just enjoy what you got? You're right. That's a good note. Sorry. No, sorry. Tell me about it. You get to go to like every single great event in the best seat possible. And then you get to talk to the people who won right afterwards. Yeah. That is pretty cool. It's pretty cool. I like my job in that I get to sit and listen to have him describe it to me.

56:04Right. It feels like so. My job is watcher. Such a luxury. Yeah. Yeah. You know, get him to like walk me through it and. There is something like cozy about what you're saying, Jason. and I think or will. I can't remember. And he does, and he does, you know, for any of you out there that are still listening to this episode that are not sports fans, which I hope there are still many, hopefully you agree that like this guy, the reason you kind of like him is because you might watch a sporting event that you don't really like or know how the sports play, but he's kind of explaining it to you and he kind of, he's got, it's a familiar, cozy kind of voice and presence that I guess is a talent and an intent.

56:44I was going with that. Yeah. That's what you were about to say. But I said it longer and more boringly. And interrupted him. But, you know, he covers all the sports, right? Like he covers... Here it comes. Yeah. Oh, no, he's the NFL... You can always sniff it out because whoever's going to do it tees themselves up. Yeah. They just nudge their way and they go, oh, yeah, but... Well, he calls all the sports, right, during the year, but he's going to be the host of the Olympics, but he's not going to be doing any play... Bye! Play! Boom! Very good. Land that steel bird. I wrote down play-by-play.

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