"Olivia Colman"

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SmartLess Podcast Episode Notes: "Olivia Colman"

Episode Summary In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome the acclaimed actress Olivia Colman. The conversation flows naturally, covering a range of topics from her illustrious career in comedy and drama to her personal life and experiences as a mother. The episode is filled with humor, anecdotes, and insightful discussions about the acting profession.

Key Themes and Discussions

Introduction and Setting

  • Hosts' Current Locations: Will Arnett shares he is in Seattle for a performance with Eddie Vedder.
  • Personal Anecdotes: The hosts discuss their friendships and shared experiences, including past gifts from guests (like ukuleles from Brad Pitt).

Guest Introduction

  • Olivia Colman as a Mystery Guest: The hosts express excitement and admiration for Colman, highlighting her numerous accolades, including an Academy Award, Golden Globes, and Emmys.
  • Colman's Background: Discussion of her upbringing in Shrewsbury, England, and her connection to British culture.

Career Reflections

  • Comedy vs. Drama: Colman discusses her beginnings in comedy and her transition into dramatic roles.
  • Key Quote: "Sometimes you just need someone to take a punt to give you a chance to do the other thing."
  • Breakthrough Role: She credits Paddy Considine for giving her a significant opportunity in the film *Tyrannosaur*.
  • Diverse Roles: The hosts praise her ability to move seamlessly between comedic and dramatic characters.

Personal Insights

  • On Fame and Recognition: Colman reflects on her first experiences with acting and the moment she realized she could pursue it professionally.
  • Parenthood: Discussion about her three children and the challenges of balancing motherhood with a busy acting career.
  • Emotional Moments: Colman shares heartfelt anecdotes about dropping her older children off at university.

The Making of *The Favourite*

  • Working with Yorgos Lanthimos: Colman describes her experience filming *The Favourite* and the unique rehearsal process involving theater games.
  • Academy Award Victory: Reflects on the surreal experience of winning an Oscar and the aftermath of the event.

Humor and Light-hearted Moments

  • Reality TV: Colman reveals her guilty pleasure for reality shows like *Too Hot to Handle* and her enjoyment of their absurdity.
  • Improvisation in Film: She shares experiences of filming with comedic talents like Kate McKinnon and Andy Samberg, highlighting the fun and challenges of working with improvisers.

Conclusion

  • Future Projects: Colman mentions her new film *The Roses*, co-starring Benedict Cumberbatch, and the anticipation surrounding it.
  • Final Reflections: The episode wraps up with the hosts expressing their admiration for Colman, emphasizing how her joyful spirit contributes to her success.

Key Takeaways

  • Versatility in Acting: Olivia Colman exemplifies the ability to transition between genres, showcasing the importance of versatility in the acting profession.
  • Personal Connection: The heartfelt discussions about family and personal experiences add depth to her public persona, making her relatable to listeners.
  • Humor in the Arts: The blend of humor and serious discussion throughout the episode illustrates the balance required in creative professions.

Notable Quotes

  • "I wonder if I'm allowed to be an actor." - Olivia Colman on her early career aspirations.
  • "You have to show vulnerability in the drama side." - Olivia Colman discussing the importance of humility in acting.

Episode Details

  • Released: August 29, 2023
  • Hosts: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
  • Guest: Olivia Colman

This episode of SmartLess provides a delightful mix of laughter, personal stories, and deep insights into the life of one of today's most celebrated actresses.

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0:28Good morning. Smart. Less.

0:37Smart. Less.

0:42How's Seattle? Will, how's Seattle? I'm in Seattle. You're up there in Seattle, visiting family or? I'm doing a little thing tonight with our friend Ed Vedder. Tonight, we're just doing like a little. Is it Ed now? Yep. Because he's just growing up a little bit. and Eddie and I are doing a little thing tonight and he's going to perform. He claims that I might help him sing a song on stage. That's not going to happen. Because he's heard your impression of him? No, he hasn't yet. And I plan on doing it. But he said, he was like, hey, do you want to, you know, what song do you want to hear? I was like, well, what song do you not want to play?

1:14And he was like, well, anything I don't know. And I was like, well, I don't know what you don't know. And he goes, well, you get up here and you'll sing. Everybody likes to sing, right? And I'm like, no, Eddie, nobody wants to hear me sing. You have to do it. Unless it's, Lord, I couldn't love him more. He's up on that level of those dudes that I just absolutely adore. I include him. I include our friend William Bradley Pitt in that, whom I just adore. I just have a massive man crush. He's got the middle name down and everything. Do you know his sign? I think it's exit. Meaning get out of my face.

1:51They don't want me around, but that's okay. Wait, do you remember when he was on and then afterwards he sent us all ukuleles or something? Remember that? Yeah, he did. I know. Yeah, so it's nice. He's such a class act. He's such a great dude. And anyway, so yeah, that's why I'm up here. I'm doing this thing tonight with him, which is going to be fun. I got my buddy Kutch is coming in from Calgary because he's such a fan. So I said, why don't you come and join? You can hang out. What's a Kutch? Yeah, Kutch. My buddy Dave McCutcheon. He's one of my oldest friends. I Kutch myself. And his name is Kutch.

2:20Oh, hey, Kutch. Yeah, how's it going? Is he a Dirty Flames fan? No, he's from Calgary, but originally from Kenora, Ontario, eh? Oh, so that makes him a Dirty Leaf fan. Yeah. Actually, we got room for the Leafs. We got room for the Leafs. It's a really catchy nickname. You know what, Sean? Wait until the guest gets in here. Save some of that. Anyway. So I'm up here. JB, when are we going to see you? Are we going to see you on the East Coast? Are you going to come to London to see Sean's play? That's the big question. Of course I am. Yeah, isn't that nice? Oh, I didn't know that. Are they coming to stay with you guys?

2:50We're staying with you for like three or four days, aren't we, Shani? Yeah, yeah. It's going to be great. Oh, that's fun. It's going to be super fun. So, yeah. Go ahead, Willie. No, you go. No, just Jason reminded me of staying with me in the house. I was talking to a friend that said, we're talking about like grocery shopping and what to get. And he's like, I go, where can I get some good milk? And he's like, cow? And I was like, yeah, cow's milk. Did we talk about this? and I was like, it just sounded gross when he said it because I forgot that, you know, that's where, like that milk comes out of a teat.

3:25Like, I know now he meant like almond milk, oat milk. I was like, because I didn't think there was any other milk. Anyway. Let's just back, let's go to the very, very beginning of the great story. When's the last, wait, Will, I'll just ask you, Will. When's the last time you approached somebody and asked them where you could get some good milk, right? That was the question. Yeah. Not milk, just general, but. This is somebody you know, not a stranger. right this is correct okay because because what was the context of like were you guys mid conversation or is it no i was like your opener no i was talking about because i'm like where do we go grocery shopping where where's the new latest in london they have in london because i don't know what the if they have like american stuff like what's the equivalent and you hear good milk's hard to find well i didn't know yes i i want really good non-fat milk jeez anyway let's get to the gap you really no we're not getting there we're gonna stay here for a minute until we knock it out of you.

4:17Sean, you asked somebody where in London you could get good milk milk. I've heard it's a real challenge to find some good nonfat cow milk. Honestly, and I love you, and I know a lot of people, but honestly, what the fuck are you talking about? I drink it every day because I don't really drink soda anymore. Well, I tell you what, it's a good segue because our guest might be able to help you locate some good milk in England. When it comes to finding good teats. Yeah, she, well, Oh, no, it's a whole new. Sorry. Take that back. You don't want to take it back. Also, because she's a really classy guest.

4:49You're really going to want to take it back. Damn it, Sean. You put me up to that. Sorry. It's a phenomenal guest that we have today. And she hails from London. She lives in London. No, I should. She's an Academy Award winner. Three nominations. Three-time Golden Globe winner. Seven nominations. Taking home two Emmys out of five nominations. You might remember her from her turn in Confetti or as the hairdresser in I Could Never Be Your Woman? He's trying to throw us out. Or even as Ian's mother in 2005's One Day. I remember her from one of my all-time favorite TV shows, Broadchurch, films like The Father, for which she was nominated for an Academy Award, and of course, The Favorite, for which she won an Academy Award.

5:27She has a new film called The Roses, which she co-stars Benedict Cumberbatch. Comes out our 29th. Give it up for a huge welcome. Olivia Colman. Hi. This is a real pleasure. This is a real treat. Real pleasure. Hi, guys. Hello, good morning. Hello. Hello. Olivia Colman. Oh, it's so nice to be here. Look how bright and cheery you are. I know. It's very sunny here. This is really classing up Will's list. Will's list was really starting to sink a little bit. Was it? But you really buoyed it, Olivia. I needed to turn it around. And thanks for the teats comment. Yeah. Jason, sure. No, I retract that with all apologies.

6:08but do you know where to find good nonfat milk there? I know some excellent teats in London. Really? Yeah. Don't you worry. Good, good. Are you in London right now? No, I'm out in the countryside, in the sticks. Lovely. Oh, great. Yeah, lovely. Really nice, in my shed. But you do live in England full time? I do, yes. Lucky. Yeah. Do you like it? Don't you love it? I love it. My mother's British, so I've always sort of had an affinity for it, but I've never spent the amount of time you'd think I would being a son of. Yeah. Where's she from? Shrewsbury. Oh, nice. Very nice. Shrewsbury. JB, do you ever consider getting your UK passport?

6:50I haven't. Should I? Are things... Oh, you should. What have you heard about America? Is something... No, all good things. All good things. Look out the window. Don't turn. Just look out the window. I don't get much here in the hostage cell. Yes, we're all big fans. We all love England. And we spent time there. Sean's on his way there in a couple days. Yeah, I heard. For a while. I'm going to come and see you. You should. I would love it. Play piano. Watch out. Get ready to be impressed. So, Olivia Colman, you know, it's funny. I went through your awards that you've won in nominations. You've been nominated for, I think it was like 156 international acting awards, and you've won like 65.

7:32Is that true? Did you not know this? I didn't know that. Congratulations, you won. Thanks. But what's staggering is, is the breadth of your work, which is, and by that I mean not just the actual amount, but the actual, you know, you've done comedy, you've done drama and everything in between. And it's really remarkable how you're able to sort of go back and forth between the two. So my first question to you is, do you at your heart consider yourself to be a comedic actor? Do you consider yourself a dramatic actor or none of the above? A little bit of all of it. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's funny talking to all of you guys about it, because you all know.

8:21My first work was in comedy, and I loved it. And sometimes you just need someone to take a punt to give you a chance to do the other thing. Right, right, right. Comedy has my heart, because that's where I got work. But I always wanted to do something dramatic, and I was so pleased with someone. What was that punt? What was that punt you're talking about? What was the first? It was Paddy Considine gave me the chance to do a film called Tyrannosaur. Oh, great. It started as a short film, and then he decided he wanted to know what happened to these characters and made it a longer film. That was, what was that?

8:57There was, I want to say 20 years ago? Longer. Yeah, I think we filmed it in 2011. Okay, 2011. and it was a huge, and it was like a big Sundance hit, wasn't it? It was a huge, I mean, it was like, it made a lot of waves. It was a, you know. Well, it sort of, at the time, yeah, Sundance loved it, which makes me love Sundance very much. And then it was sort of built as the years went by. So now film lovers have seen it, but at the time it was quite a slow burn, I think. But you didn't just get incredible 20 years ago. You know, like I imagine that there's been a real, you're just such a special magical actor.

9:45I mean, that is why you can do comedy and drama so well is because it doesn't ever seem like you're asking for a laugh. You're never doing a comedy. You're playing a character that is eccentric or whatever, such that it makes us all sort of giggle. And the same for drama. So when... This is nice. I'm loving this. Well, you won't like this question. I'm very shallow. You know, like, when did you realize that you were special? And I know that that takes admitting that you think that you don't suck, but you're allowed to admit that you don't suck. and when did it start? Was it acting school? Did somebody tell you you're great or did you see yourself do something and go, oh, that works for me?

10:30I can do this. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, do you all remember the moment when you went, okay, don't suck? Right, no, I guess I don't. You do. Wait, Sean, you had a moment where you thought you didn't suck?

10:46Many of them. I'm like, oh my God. No, my first one was just really quick. Great to have you on the show, Sean. Thank you so much. You're so welcome. No, I remember the pilot of this show I did, Will and Grace, for many, many years. We love this show. It's so complicated. It's actually not the opposite of complicated. She is gay. They are gay.

11:16Wait, it was the pilot, Sean? It was the pilot. that I didn't really, I'd never done a TV show. So it was like a pilot and I walked in not knowing how cameras were, anything, right? And I walked in and I got a laugh on just like some benign line. Like, hey, Will, can I borrow your blank? I don't know what it was. And people laughed. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, why are they laughing? I just said something. And then at the end of the pilot that night, this first assistant director came up to me and she was like, you know, she was like, you're great, you're amazing. I'm like, really? Like, I didn't understand any of it.

11:57Yeah. It does take hearing it from the outside, doesn't it? I mean, Olivia, was there a moment there where somebody, I mean, sometimes it's a parent, you know, that goes, hey, you know, you've done good. Or a teacher, or was it, do you remember, was there a moment like that? Yeah, maybe, I did my first ever school play when I was 16. Yeah. And that's the first time I'd done any acting. And, yeah, I've got to say, I really enjoyed afterwards people clapping. That was brilliant. At that age, too. That's such a tricky age where you're sort of, you're just coming on to... Oh, so shit. It's everything.

12:32So rubbish. I finally thought, oh. And my mum and dad, who just couldn't really speak afterwards, went, oh, fuck. Yeah. And I thought, oh, I think that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. I know. That's interesting. I know it's very English to not want to, you know, sort of pat yourself on the back. And I get it. But there are those moments that you have that's undeniable where you go like, yeah, okay. I was kind of, JB, I remember when we were doing Arrested Development 20 years ago, over 20 years ago. And remember that? There was a guy, one of the first editors. And I remember you and I were walking and he came down the stairs.

13:11You and I were on the old Culver lot. And he said, do you remember that guy? and he came over and he goes, guys, I've been cutting the show and we'd only made like three episodes and he was like, guys, this show is really funny. We're like, really? I know, you never know. We had no idea because we were in a vacuum and he's like, that's really good. I remember doing a Twelfth Night, the Shakespeare play Twelfth Night in high school. Olivia, we're going to beat you in one second. Yeah. No, because I want to know about your high school experience, the play that you said you had a response to and I didn't know what, I didn't understand what I was saying.

13:38It was Shakespeare, literally Shakespeare and I got a laugh on some, I'm like, why are they laughing? I was 16 years old. Same thing. But what was yours? Oh, the prime of Miss Jean Brody. Which I obviously didn't have a clue what it meant at the time. Yeah, yeah. And looking back now, it was all sort of about fascism. So at that age, that's the age where you start to think about college, right? And picking a career. And so it was kind of timely that you kind of got this pat on the back. And did you then at that moment choose, this is the direction I'm going to go? Well, I sort of, I never really admitted it to anyone out loud, but in my head I thought, I wonder if I'm allowed to be an actor.

14:20Right. Because I didn't come from that, you know, so I didn't know. Allowed. Yeah. Yeah. And so I didn't tell, I went off to teacher training college, which I left after a term and then worked as a cleaner for a long time and still sort of secretly thinking, I really want to try the acting thing. Yeah. What did you teach in the training? But you went to Bristol, sorry, you went to Old Vic Theatre School though, yeah? Bristol Old Vic afterwards, yes. So, yes, I went to the teacher training college where I met my husband who was at the university and we were doing a play then and I walked into the rehearsal room and saw him and got thunderbolts.

14:59And then we did a play together and he was doing law but was sort of, didn't really like it. And then I said, run away with me and we'll go and be artists and join the circus. And so he did. It was nice. He finished his degree because he's proper clever. And then what was that first job or moment where you go, okay, this is something I think I'm going to be able to make a living at this? Well, we went to drama school. He got in first and then I got in the year after and we did drama school together. and then I got a job just before my last term, which was a sketch show. And I don't think it was particularly great.

15:45I wasn't very particularly good in it. But the fact that I'd got a job, I was so excited. Yeah. And then I felt like I'd earned some money and I could actually put actor on my passport. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, it was exciting. And then not long after that, But when did Peep Show come into your world? Peep Show, yeah, not long after that. Peep Show is great. Yeah. Oh, thanks. So good. So good. Oh, I love it when people love Peep Show. I love that show. It's so good. Well, that was Rob and David, who I'd met when I'd left my teacher training college, Rob Webb, David Mitchell. Yeah. They had spent the interim time writing and working hard, and then they met Sam and Jesse, who wrote Peep Show.

16:32Sam Bain, Jesse Armstrong. And they said, we need a woman. And they went, oh, I'll make Collie. We could try her. And it was great. And I was called into the BBC for an audition. I was so excited and I couldn't work out why. Excited, not nervous. And they'd also, yeah, so nervous. So nervous. And they'd also got me in for the sketch show. Did you, did you, did that, it must have helped sort of shape your, your sort of your comedic point of view a little bit, working on that show with those guys. Yeah. And, I mean, I couldn't write for shit. If a gun was to my head, I couldn't write anything funny.

17:15Yeah. But they can. And so they sort of make it easy. We say their words and, you know, you appear to be funny. Which was nice. I would imagine working in that environment with those guys, and you with your talent and working for the, I know it's not to embarrass you. These are just facts, Olivia, so you have to accept them. So we have to, but taking that and I think working in that way with those guys who are so funny and you're so funny and as you guys developed that show and worked on Peep Show over the years, I wonder if that sort of that spontaneity and that ability to work in comedy helped you later on as you sort of gravitated towards more dramatic roles?

18:01Yeah, maybe. I think, and I don't know how you feel about it, you have to sort of have an enormous dollop of humility, I think, for people to laugh at you and with you. Yeah, you've got to really pull your pants down. Yeah. Okay, I'll do it. And some people aren't comfortable. No, no, no, Sean, wait. I think some people aren't comfortable with it. And I think that helps with you've got to show vulnerability in the drama side. And maybe, because quite brave to show yourself to be an idiot in front of people and for them to laugh. And to be broken. Yeah, it is. And to be broken. But also because, as you know, so much, you know, timing plays a big part of it in comedy, right?

18:48And you really have to, in comedy, for the most, you really have to listen. I mean, if ever there was a discipline, an area in our world that you have to listen is comedy because it's so important to be able to land stuff. And so if you bring that into dramatic work, you are really listening and you really understand rhythm. There is a sort of almost a musicality to it. Yeah, totally. You're explaining it really well. done first time first time I've done it right I'm always surprised that people are still shocked when people in comedy can do drama it's like oh my god what? it doesn't work the other way though does it?

19:34no it doesn't well often it doesn't I mean obviously plenty can but it is odd how it's easier to make the move from comedy to drama than the other way around I think that it does have something to do with that rhythm and that listening and all that stuff and being present. Like you're forced. Or you could do that. Oh, look, somebody's just delivered a drink. Sorry, my husband's just brought me a massive gin and tonic. There we go. Oh, that's so nice. It's that time of the evening. It is massive. I just want to. Hi. Sorry. That's Ed. No, no, no. That's Ed, the bartender. That's Ed. Thanks, Ed. Thanks, Ed.

20:08We'll be right back.

20:13And now back to the show. Didn't I just see a trailer for, you've got a hilarious comedy coming out. Oh, excellent segue. Yes. What is it? I want to say it's like War of the Roses, yes? Yes. Yes. Is that what it's called? It was in my introduction, Jason. You see, you weren't present and listening. Wait, I wasn't in my introduction. Maybe I was busy clapping. Too busy trying to guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, is it War of the Roses? Yes, so, well, that was a jumping off point. Yes. So, yes, you know, Tony McNamara, amazing. Tony McNamara, writer. He has loved War of the Roses, as we all did.

20:55And he's slightly changed it a bit. And so it's called The Roses. But that was definitely a big influence. Gotcha, gotcha. Wow. And who's the fella? Benedict Cumberbatch. Oh, that's great. That part I remember. Yeah, I remember something hearing about Cumberbatch. You know, you probably heard this all the time. Americans, I think, a lot of us were so and are still enamored with British comedy, right? That's nice. Even the most crass, vulgar sketch shows or comedy shows that come out of Britain, there's still like a sophistication to the crass, you know what I mean? There's still like a slickness to it.

21:33Sorry, Olivia, he's getting to, he always gets to, he wants to know your views on Benny Hill. Go ahead, John. No, no, but there is. So who growing up made you go like, was there anybody you'd watched on the telly or the movies that you were like, oh, that's really interesting? Well, I think it works the other way too. I mean, I'm obsessed with American comedy. And on Channel 4 here, every morning, we have Cheers and Frasier and King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond, all those lovely comedies that I remember. Any others? No. No. No, that's it. Will and Grace. Oh, shit. Only the good ones. Only the good ones.

22:18But literally, and friends and Arrested Development, and we are all, we can sort of quote most of, you know, all my friends, excuse me, adore American comedy. And I find American comedy very sophisticated. That's so funny. It's so funny. We all sort of look longingly. I've always my favorite film of all time is With Nail and I and I've said it a million times oh my god yes that's fantastic to me it is the gold standard because it's not just a comedy it's quite dramatic everything about it is so perfect and I just find it so hard to believe that somebody can make something like that here hard to believe that I have still not seen it I'm putting it right in the office say it again it's such a treat I'm so jealous that you haven't seen it I know what's the title again With Nail and I With Nail and I it's the most perfect film Richard E.

23:08Grant And Bruce Robinson wrote and directed amazing. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Like with a nail? Oh, God, this is so embarrassing. It's one word. It's the guy's name. Last name. Oh, okay, but that's what I asked. It's his name. It's a fair question, Sean. I've got you. I've got you. Thank you. You're quite right. I don't know. There's something, but there is like British humor tends to be to sort of lean back just a little bit and lets you kind of discover it. Whereas I think we in America, along with everything, we kind of want to show it to you a little bit quicker than you might see it. You know, we're a little bit more earnest, a little louder, a little more obvious, I find, is the difference.

23:49And I kind of like having to lean in to find it a little bit more. I love the dryness and the no winking of British humor so much. I think that's lovely of you. But I do sort of feel that way about watching all of you perform. Yeah, yeah. I wonder, you know, I listed off your credits and I'm such a fan of so many of these things. First of all, you know, Broadchurch. Again, that's what an example of a show that is like the gold standard to me. I mean, if every show could, every once in a while I look, you know, I go into one of my streaming services that I subscribe to and go like, is there a way, yeah, Britbox.

24:32is there a way that there's a new series of broad church and I've just missed it and now it's going to be on. And no, there's not. But you've done so many things. And I think once in an interview you said you don't really, did you say that you're bad at choosing jobs, you just kind of do the next job that comes along? That can't possibly be true. Well, I feel guilty saying no. Yeah. And I think in the early years, you know, not working very often was actually brilliant because it's made me very grateful for work. Same, same, same, same. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's better that way around than doing really well straight away, I think.

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25:17But you've had to sharpen your scissors a bit, right? Because I imagine you get a ton of offers and submissions and scripts to read and incoming calls because of all the obvious reasons. So you can't possibly say yes to everything. And so your picker does need to become somewhat refined. Yeah. Is there something that you really look for that starts to have you lean one particular way? Is it character? Is it script? Is it director, co-star, location? Location. I don't know. Right near home. I'm getting slightly better at saying no because I want to be at home a lot. Yeah. Up until COVID, I had never been away from Ed for longer than two weeks, which in our world is quite unusual.

26:13Yeah. I didn't really take jobs away from home and I made sure I got back. Yeah. Because I get quite homesick. And you've got a family. You've also managed to somehow have three kids in there as well. Yeah, that's cool. And they're really nice. Yeah, I bet, I bet. That's the best. It is. I was talking with a friend about this last night. You know, you could be a great parent, but you're just still crossing your fingers that you get good ones because it's not really in your control. You can move your kid just a little bit. We've talked about it on the show before, and this nature versus nurture.

26:47What's your experience been like? You've got a great sample there with three, how you never get two of the same. Now you've got three there. Are they wildly different? They must be. Well, two are boys, one's a girl. Got it. That's a good start. So it's a bit of difference there. But also not really, you know. No? No. And I feel when people talk about difference between genders, I don't really see it between them. They all arrived nice. They were so nice when they turned up. Oh, how nice. Yeah. And they're all equally emotional and funny. How old are they? So nearly 20, nearly 18, and nearly 10.

27:32So there was a bit of a gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were home and dry and went back in, had another. Yeah, yeah. Good, good for you. Sorry, Willie. Is the eldest out of the house yet? Is the second eldest about to go out? Because I'm dealing with that in our house. The empty nest thing is heartbreaking. So our big one is in his second year of uni. Okay. And second one is literally did his last A-level today. So he's at the beach now with his friends. How'd it go? Celebrating. He said it was good. Yeah. Which is words that never came out of my mouth after an exam. And, yeah, the eldest one, when he was about to go to uni, so we knew for a year, obviously, he was going to go to uni, and I pre-grieved, and every time he walked past me, I'd burst into tears, and I'd just imagine him going, whoosh, back to being a baby in my arms.

28:28And he was so sweet, he would just give me a cuddle, he just knew I needed it. And then my husband was going, it'll be great, No, it's exciting. This is what you want for them. And then on the day that we were driving him to uni, our youngest came out of the gate and watched us drive down the road and just stood there waving. And Ed burst into tears. And I went, are you fucking kidding? We've got five hours in the car. You can't stop. Pull it together. Yeah, yeah. You know, speaking of being a good mom, you and Heartstopper, like, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. Like, I wish my mom, at the time, she turned around and was great when I came out.

29:09Yeah, great, good. But that scene that they used in the promo of you listening to your son come out and your response and your reaction, that scene was so powerful. I'm like, it's just incredible. And I wish everybody's experience was like... Sean, give me a little bit of context. What's the context? Oh, so Heartstopper was about a lot of things. But it was, Olivia played the mom of a kid who came out of the closet and his journey in high school and all of that stuff. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's coming of age. Yeah. And I think just so beautifully written is like the blueprint for, you know, hopefully parents will reply in that way.

29:49And a huge hit, massive hit. Yeah, huge hit. People have really loved it. That's been a lovely response, actually, whenever anyone, often men over the age of 40 get really teared up and go, thank you so much for that I wish it was that really nice that nice when we were all coming out in the 80s how are you able to keep your two week thing going with as much work that you do well I haven't since is Ed able to come with you does he do something that he can do remotely we do try to do that so he is a writer and we have a production company and he He sort of runs that. I am useless in that. And you guys produced, you produced The Roses, you and Ed, right?

30:37Ed did. Okay, okay, okay. Ed and Sonny March, that's Benedict's company, and Fox Searchlight, and yeah. Can't wait to see it. But not me. I'm called an EP on it, but I did absolutely fuck all. But you get a fee. What about, where'd you shoot that, in England? Or out here? No, in England. We were, our characters live in America, but we did, Forgive me, UK, for getting Devon and Dorset in a muddle. I mean, that's sacrilege. But we filmed in one of those, and it was very beautiful. I've done it. You really done it. I'm going to have to come over and live in America with you now. Wait, I missed that.

31:14What did you say? I just got two counties in a muddle, and they'll get really upset by that. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Gotcha, gotcha. Oh, wait. So then you both play, you're both British actors. You played Americans. No, we played English. because they thought, I think, Tony liked the idea of our Englishness in America. Oh, that's great. Got you, got you, okay. And the way we properly slag each other off and the incredible American cast, by the way. Kate McKinnon, Andy Sandberg, Zoe Chow. That's great. Yeah, amazing. Sunita Mani, just brilliant. Who directed the film? Jay Roach. Oh, wow. Jay Roach. Yeah.

31:55He's awesome. I love him. Yeah, lovely. Oh, my God, poor thing. He was like herding cats. This is kind of like an all-star. This is an all-star movie. All-star director, all-star cast. Yes, it is. August 29th. Oh, nice. I'm just giving you this. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all realize it's a business at the end of the day. Listen, you may have gotten to. You should all come to the premiere. Come to New York. Let's do it. We're definitely going to come to the premiere. Will you? Yeah. I mean, we'll say we will come. Gin and tonics in the flesh. How do you like that part of it, doing the chat and giggle tour and doing the talk shows and things like that, and stuff like this.

32:28Like, does it come naturally? It's never really to me. Do you like it? Do you enjoy it? No. There's no point lying. I don't. Yeah, right. Did Michelle Pfeiffer name drop say, she does the film for free, it's the press they pay her for? Yeah. Is that why I kind of feel the same? Yeah. I love Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, my God. I was going to say, you mixed up two English counties for which you may never be forgiven. However, you've got so much credit. You've built up so much credit because you played arguably the most iconic English person of all time when you played the queen in The Crown. And I gotta ask.

33:07I know, I just wanna know. The weight. First of all, you were so, Sean, no, sorry, it's not the show. It's not the queen that you're thinking of. No, it's the sequel to Heartstopper, yeah. No, it's not. It's not that queen. Got it, got it, got it, got it. It's not, oh my God, you're here. It's, it's, it's, it's. What are you wearing? How very dare you? No, it's, it's, you must have been. How did, well, a couple of questions. How did that come into your world? How did you, how did that offer come around? And when you got it and the weight of playing the queen as an English person. What you felt when you got the offer, like, wait, what?

33:54All of that. Well, I've been watching Claire Foy. They'd advertised it so much here, big posters everywhere, and everyone loved it, which made me go, I'm not going to watch it. I don't want to be pushed into... I like to discover things. Yes. Yeah, but then, of course, I watched it and absolutely loved it. I was obsessed with Claire Foy. And then my agent called me once when I was driving and said, that they'd like to see you for, she said The Crown. No, she said The Queen, that's it. And I went, oh, the play. Oh. And she said, no, no, The Telly, what's it called? I went, oh, The Crown? Are you kidding?

34:33And I went, absolutely, yes. She went, oh, you should think about it. I went, no, no, it's a yes. And I said, absolutely, yes. And I hadn't really thought about the weight of what it would be. So you're like, I'm all in. I was so excited. Also, to be fair, I had a huge tax bill as well that year. so it really came at a good time. After they saw the cut or? I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say, to be fair, I just had a huge gin and tonic, which I'm like, you know. I mean, that's often the case. Yeah, of course, of course. But I was driving. Right, so it was a smaller gin and tonic.

35:05So when you, so you get this, so your agent calls and you say yes, straight away. Okay, great. Okay, fantastic. Now there's the lead up, whatever it is, the months leading up to doing it and you've got to get your head around playing the queen. So you go in and you meet everybody. Yeah, I did start to regret my decision a bit because I thought, oh, actually, this is massive. And yeah, everyone knows what she looks like. Everyone knows what she sounds like. Yeah. Yeah, and I did start to go, oh, fuck, I shouldn't have done this. Also, I can't walk posh. You can't walk posh. No. Is there a walk?

35:37Is there a posh walk? Yeah, I walk like a farmer. And the director did shout out, he's not pleased. that I keep reminding him of this, but he did say, more queen, less farmer. As I was walking. Take your flats off and the heels on. No way. Oh, that's funny. Wait a second. I love that so much. So you get there and then it's day one. We've asked this before, which is like that moment when you're going to do your first take and you're rolling for the first time. Oh, God, yeah. And you've got to, and you're like, okay, I'm now about to... I know that first time you open your mouth and you can sense everyone going, oh no.

36:18And everybody's watching, right? The video village, whatever it is. Oh, wrong choice. Oh, really? Let's see her version of the queen. You know what I mean? And I can watch back that first scene I did and I can tell that I wasn't... Yeah. Talk about it. Talk about it. Talk about it. Yeah. It was, I think they did try to do things chronologically. So it was my, the stamp reveal, you know, of the, when they, they update our stamps. Yes. With the, as the monarch ages. And so they went from Claire Foy's face, beautiful young Claire Foy, to me. And I guess I really felt incredibly nervous. I think I had quite a skirt below my knees, but my knees were absolutely going up and down.

37:05You know, that wobbly knee thing. Yeah. Yeah, and I sounded quite, it was really quite tight in the back of the stage. I wonder if that worked, though. I wonder if that worked. Like, maybe, you know. I don't know. I don't ever look either. I don't want to know. And people might have been writing and going, what the fuck? Why is she doing it? All right, so then two questions. So it does sound like yes is the answer to the first one, which is do you watch, you know, playback on set or once the job is done? Not on set, no. You can't. So once it's— Because I think it takes too much time. I just want to get the day done.

37:36Yeah, yeah. Well, but—exactly. But maybe once they've moved on, you know, they're setting up the next shot. I've always found that it's helpful for me to look at, like, just the first couple of days to see if I'm wildly off track or not, right? To see how it's kind of coming across. But you don't. So you wait until it's all done. I didn't really want to on that first day. I think I would have unraveled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sort of say, oh, it's got to keep going. It's going to get better. I'll relax as we go. Right. And then once it's done. So JB, you're watching first couple days, you're watching dailies or you're watching playback?

38:12Yeah, to see, either, both. Really? Yeah, just to see if I'm kind of in the same movie, like dailies, I'll see scenes that I wasn't on the set for to see if I'm in the same tone, the same project as they are. Oh, that's a good idea. But then once it's out, do you not look at reviews? Well, my husband will show me if it's a good one. Gotcha. And if anyone's been mean, I don't want to see it. Gotcha. Because then that's all you think about. You never remember the good bits. You remember the bad bits that people are saying. I know, I know. I know, but I always struggle with like, well, but we're making this for the public and it'd be helpful to see if what I think is working works for the masses, right?

38:53Because you are looking for a consensus. But don't you ask someone else, a trusted friend to look for you? Yeah, but also you are making it for public consumption, but I'm not making it for them. I'm making, I always think like, I'm making it for me. Yeah, you have to want to watch it, don't you? It's tricky. Yeah, it is tricky. Yeah. We'll be right back.

39:19All right, back to the show. So you were talking about this great cast that you worked with on The Roses and Kate McKinnon and Andy Samberg. Well done, you're very good at bringing it back around. Oh, yes, this guy's at a level. Very proficient at this. I'm not just doing it for, well, you know, I'm one of the worst interviewers on the planet. You can just leave it in the comments. I think you're doing superb, John. Sean was nominated once when we first started. Sean does have nominations. Sean was nominated for Best Interviewer, and Jason and I were snubbed. They took it really hard. Is this why you're all in separate rooms?

39:50Yeah. You can't be together. This is why I went to Seattle. Right. But I was going to say, with those great people, was there a lot of, there must have been a lot of fun, because Kate McKinnon and Andy in particular, They're so funny and such great improvisers. And Benedict is wonderful, right? I don't know Benedict at all. Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah, just a tiny bit. I've just only met him a couple of times, but he seems to have an incredibly good sense of humor. Really does. And just so enthusiastic. Yeah. And like a great big intelligent human Labrador. I saw him once repacking his suitcase in the lobby of the Greenwich Hotel.

40:26That's the only time ever. I didn't say hi because he looked like he was really, he was really trying to jam something in. This is a true story. He was really trying to jam. You know, in that little part right there between the restaurant and the thing. Wasn't he mumbling something like, no, the dogs will smell it here.

40:42I should have just swallowed it. I should have just swallowed it.

40:48But it must have been a lot of laughs on it, like a lot of improvising. There were some scenes where we were all together, like a dinner table scene. And it was so hard to get through the day. And I really felt for poor Jay Roach. just you know yeah and the crew waiting for you guys to finish giggling I know to stop finding ourselves so funny I know the well did the I've worked with some really incredible actors that are great at improvising and coming up with alternate jokes and stuff oh thanks man and it it it makes it made me go back to my dressing room in between setups and try to catch up and and look at my scene and try to come up with other lines so that I I was being as sort of creative as they are.

41:36Did you find that kind of, not pressure, it's not like a bad thing. I think because I've never written comedy, and we were talking about this, Benedict and I, we're very much, Tony McNamara's written it, and our job is to do the script. And then it was sort of fairly boring of us. But then you're in a room with Andy Samberg and Kate McKinnon, for example, and you go, oh, fuck. I mean, I can't do that. I don't think I can do that. Which is also fine. Yeah. And I think know your strengths. Know your limits. And I'm so thrilled to have seen them do what they do. You know, SNL alumni. Yeah. That was so fast.

42:19Did I say the right way around? Yeah, that's right. That's right. SNL. Yeah, yeah. Can we change lanes for a second? Just talk about The Favourite for a minute. It was such a brilliant film. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that come into your world? I think it was because I'd done The Lobster with Yorgos Lanthimos. Oh, right. Yes. Yes, right. What a filmmaker he is. My goodness. Oh, my God. He's amazing. Yorgos Lanthimos. Do it. If he asks you, say yes. Oh, please. I'd pull cable on his set. Are you kidding me? Jason emails him every day. Every day, Jason emails him. Yeah, I think I might not have the right address.

42:57I'm still alive. No, so right, so you did The Lobster, so then The Favourite comes along. God, that film is remarkable. Oh, my God, and I read the script, and I love, you know, when you get proper, sometimes you go, I think I like it, but this one you go, oh, my God, I could potentially try and run someone over if they were up for the same job. You know, I want it so much. Right, because it's so clear on the page what a colourful character that is. You must have, like, I would imagine And your only challenge was, like, what version of color should I do on this character? Because it was just so spicy, right?

43:33Yeah. Or was it clear to you right from the beginning? Yeah. Sort of. Yeah. It was so, you know, clear on the page, I thought. Also, some actor friends of mine, they read a script and they read it as one thing and then they read it again in another way and they read it again. They see all this and I've never had that. Right. And I sort of, you know, when they talk about their way of doing things, I panic, think, oh, God, I think I'm a very simple person. I just can't really. Yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. And so that reading The Favourite, I sort of, oh, God, I can picture exactly. I really want to do it.

44:12And then I was doing Broadchurch, I think the third season, and I couldn't fit it in. and I sort of, they know that lump in your throat when you go, I'm not available. And he said, okay, well, we'll wait. It was amazing. Wow. So he waited for me, which was, I mean. What a vote of confidence. Oh, God, love him forever for that. When was the first time you gave him like a little taste of the character? Was that scary? Like, were you sitting around a table? Were you guys rehearsing at all? Well, because he's from theater background and he does, we did, I think, three weeks of rehearsal. Oh, great.

44:51What a luxury. I know. Amazing. It makes for a better product. Yeah. Also, he does it with sort of theater games. So you might do, he loves to do the whole script from start to finish, but without maybe saying it, you might go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, in the sort of gist of what you're saying, and you all just go blah, blah, blah, blah to each other and get through the whole story. Wow. Or you do it all holding hands, and you're tying yourselves in a massive knot. So you end up with your face near someone's bum and someone's foot in your armpit. And so you end up with no inhibitions, pissing yourselves, laughing together.

45:27So you start your first day on set. You know the film inside out. You know each other. You're totally at ease with each other. I've never done anything like it. It was amazing. It was lovely. It's the best. It's astonishing that not every director does that. It's like, don't you want the whole cast to feel like they know each other and there's history there. Otherwise, it's like, hi, nice to meet you. Ready to go? Well, I don't know. We haven't had even a dinner together. Yeah, nice to meet you and then have a sex scene. Yeah, yeah. It's like I don't understand why it's not always like that. Oh, I'd love to know more about that.

45:57Yeah, that whole rehearsal process. That's amazing. It was really nice. Jason's going to come in London. Go ahead. Thank you. Oh, yeah. We'll all come. We'll all come to your rehearsals. Yeah, yeah. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that. And do the games and do the stuff so that Jason's face ends up near Sean's bum. There we go. For a second time. Wait, Olivia, what were you going to say? I cut you off. I'm sorry. I have no idea. Sorry. Okay. My attention to Spanish. No, sorry. So then you went, you know, again, at risk of embarrassing you further, but you win the Academy Award for the favorite.

46:35Great speech, by the way. Thanks. Love the speech. Great speech. I did. I loved the speech. It was so memorable. thanks so much and then the next so then the next day so you win the academy where you great Sean's right great speech and then you win and then it's the next morning and you wake up and then it's like just get a cup of coffee like every other day like how yeah yeah you know or a couple of ibuprofen and a few coffees yeah yeah yeah yeah kind of bonkers yeah and then you've got to you've got to fly home with it right so yeah yeah yeah and I put it in my hand luggage because I didn't want it to go into the whole of the plane.

47:14That's it, yeah, of course. And then our stewards and stewardess is asking, can we see it? Have you got it? Yeah, I've got it in my bag. How about that going through the, you know, the metal detector? The Reaper. Yeah. Did they see it? Yeah, I suppose so. They must have done. Just going by the screen, there's an Oscar going through the screen. Yeah. Yeah, imagine that shape comes up pretty clear on the, on the, right? Yeah. Yeah, and you don't want to check it in the luggage and put it in the hold because if they lose it, then it's goodnight, Oscar, you know? Oh, my goodness, Will. Can you imagine?

47:48That's Sean's play. That's Sean's play, goodnight, Oscar. Oh, my God. It's a terrible tieback. So you take it out and are you showing it around the cabin there with the stewardesses and whatnot or is it just kind of just unzip and just take a look in the bag? Just a little look in the bag Because I find I don't have anything out on show at home. I find it a little bit showy-offy. God, you're so English. You're so English, Olivia. It's delightful. It's absolutely delightful. Is it hidden in a closet somewhere? Yeah, it was in a cupboard in our sitting room. Yeah. But we discovered the cupboard's a bit damp.

48:27So we live in a very old house. Our whole house is, the front of it's 1 ,600. Wow. Wow, I bet it's beautiful. It's so pretty, but it is a bit damp. Yeah. And our lovely Darren, who's a carpenter, handyman painter, he opened the cupboard and went, are you fucking kidding? I went, you know us damp in here. And so he made me take it out, and I've now got it on a bookshelf put behind a book. Okay. I know it's there, and I can say hello to him. No, that's nice. It's really nice. That's very good. So Darren rescued him. You get another one, you bake bookends. Then you're going to have to look at it.

49:11So before we let you go, I mean, you've got a very busy life. You're working all the time. You're just, I mean, you could almost. And a mom. And you're a mom. And you're a mom. And you're out in the countryside. What do you do? We always ask people, is there one sort of guilty pleasure thing that you do? like little like sort of TV that you watch that you enjoy what's the dumbest thing you do what's the dumb do you do anything dumb as a sort of hobby that's kind of secret nobody knows about I think I tell everybody everything so nothing's really very secret good for you but um I really love shit reality telly yeah my god have you seen Too Hot to Handle no fucking brilliant what is that is that up there with like Love Island and Below Deck and stuff like that I've never really Below Deck I love Below Deck Yeah, I didn't either.

50:00Love Island I've never seen, but Too Hot to Handle is, please watch it. So it's all these really oversexed, incredibly hot, beautiful people who are on this island. They're told they're there for a show, a dating show. And then, it's great. And then the presenter comes on and says, actually, you're all here for Too Hot to Handle. And you can see them going, oh, God! Because it means that they're not allowed to touch each other. and they start with a money pot of like a hundred grand and they forget that there's a million cameras in this house and anyone, so masturbation is like five grand, a snog is two grand.

50:43It's hilarious. It's so funny. It's hilarious. I've got to watch that. It's so good. And then the next morning, this sort of, it's like a, what are those? I don't have one. Those gadgets in the house that you can talk to. Oh, yeah. Oh, like an Alexa. An Alexa. So this Alexa type thing goes, let's all meet on the sofa. And they all go, I haven't, don't you, who's lost us some money? And then she says, the money pot is now down to 90 grand. Someone was being shagged. And they're all looking at each other. And you got to figure out who did it. And then they go to like a hand moving under the duvet.

51:18It's so funny. That's really funny. Wait, I've got to see it. 10 grand, but it's only 5 grand. Yeah, no, Gary jerked off twice. Oh, that sounds so good. Wait, is that on British? And sometimes I think, totally worth it. I'll take it. Yeah. Is it a British show or is it on, like, Netflix or something like that? I have a feeling it's... American. I've seen it with Americans and English. We can Google it. English, I think it... Yeah. All right. What about the Traders? Have you seen the Traders? Do you know what's that show? Love Traders. Love it. Yeah, I love it. We have gone holiday every year with four families, and we play Mafia every night.

51:55Yeah, during the pandemic. Yes, now listen to this. During the pandemic, we were playing Mafia on Zoom with like 20 people, right? And after like 10 times, I'm like, I feel like this is a TV show. But I didn't do anything about it and then cut to one of the biggest shows in the history of the world, The Traitors. I mean, it's exactly the same thing. Where do I find that, Sean? Peacock is at the Alan Cumming, the American version. Yes, you have Alan Cumming. I haven't seen the American one yet. Oh yeah, and I've seen the UK version as well. And then, what's your name? Claudia Winkleman. She's great.

52:28Who's my friend Chris's wife. She does the UK version. Oh my gosh, she's incredible. Wait, you know her? I do, yeah. She's my friend Chris Tike's wife. I would love to meet her. Yeah. But JB, remember we played Mafia every night at New Year's this past year. Yeah. With the kids and with every, we had all our kids. We had everyone. Yeah, the kids all played. 25 of us. Do you find if you get murdered, you know it's your kids that have done it? Yes. It's every time. It happened a lot. It happened a lot. Kids always murder their parents. I ended up, I tell you what, I ended up having to run it most of the times.

53:03I only got to play like twice of like the 20 times we did it. Right. Which was a bummer. Yeah, and if I get, if I pick the killer card and I'm the murderer, I start laughing immediately. Like I'm the worst. Wait, you do a killer, you guys do cards that you pick? Yeah, yeah. Or somebody, yeah. No, we assign. We assign. Everybody close their eyes and we go around and whoever's running it assigns. Oh, we do cards. Yeah, we do. Interesting. Same as Sean. And we have the same guy called Guy, who is the best guy at running it. Yeah. And he loves it. He likes to run it. He's got a gentle Welsh accent, and it really works.

53:39He loves it. That would be so fun. Olivia, if we see each other in London, we should play. Oh, my God, we will. I'll get Guy along. Yeah. He can run it. Do it while me and Amanda are there, Shani. Yeah, yeah, we should. That would be so fun. Let me know. Well, Olivia Colman. I'm so thrilled to meet you. I've had such a nice time. Thank you. What an absolute thrill. What a huge, massive fan we all are of yours. Massive fans. Me too. I was incredibly nervous. For the first half of this, my heart was going like mad. Ed came in with the lubrication. I bless Ed. He could tell that I needed a little calm.

54:15You were fantastic. You were awesome. You were terrific. Very nice of you to do this. Nice to meet you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for having me. Have a great time. I'll see you in London and we'll play Matthews. Yes. We'll love it. In London, and a lot of success with The Roses, August 29th. Once again, very happy for you and your success. Oh, thank you so much. I'm a huge fan of all of you, and I'm really grateful you had me on. Thank you. Thank you, honey. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Bye. What a nice, you know, it was like a strawberry Wimbledon breakfast, you know? Sure.

54:46What's a strawberry Wimbledon? Wimbledon? I don't know, with the creams, it just feels so refreshing and European. Yeah. You know, first thing in the morning. Yeah, it was really nice. You know, people who are that joyful work a lot. I like that. You know what I mean? You think that's the key? Well, I think it's part of it, don't you think? Sure, exactly. I mean, nobody wants to hire assholes. No, exactly. This is what I keep telling you, Sean. Straighten out. Get in line. I mean, yeah. She does work a lot. She's in so many different things and so many different types of roles. I forgot to tell her she's in The Bear.

55:20She's also recurring. She's in The Bear, yeah. Yeah. No way. Yeah. What's she doing in that show? I don't know, man. She's poking the bear. I guess she pokes the bear. Sounds like a dream. What about where she lives? Just in the middle of the countryside in England? I mean, doesn't that sound amazing? And you can just sort of see here, like, just kind of children laughing and the wind just sort of, you know, gentle breeze through the trees and the birds and stuff. Ice clattering against the side of the glass. A large gin and tonic. Yeah, yeah. With something grilling on the thing outside and friends over, maybe some mafia late in the night.

55:58Is he trying to get closer to a bye? You know? I don't know. What did Rob just send? What does that word mean? He's pitching a bye here. It's something like bi-cololic. Rob Armjerv is trying to pitch a bye. Alcoholic, bi-cololic. No, it's like bucolic, but bi-colic. Yeah, like bucolic out there in the country. Bucolic. What does that even mean, bucolic? Bucolic is sort of country. Leafy and tree. Outdoors. It's a pretty good one. I actually think it's nice. But it's bu and not bi. Yeah. I'll tell you what would be good if you could somehow work in the word combined into something like that. You could really lean on the bi section combined.

56:37Right, if you took the two, but then you were saying, you put two, right. So, oh, I know. She's an actress that can do comedy and drama. What if she found the perfect role where you... What? Oh, she took the two things and she was able to... Oh. Come by. Wow. You guys. Yes. Come by, Colic. Smart. Nice.

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