"Oscar Isaac"

22:54And so I was like, I think I'm not going to do it. Oh, wow. You did not go through the basic training? No, I didn't go through any of that. Wait, so I want to go back to the thing because I didn't know you collected guitars. How many guitars do you have? I don't really collect guitars. I mean, I have some guitars. But you told the Coen brothers you did, I'll bet. Seven? Seven's pretty good. Seven guitars, that's a lot of guitars. That's a collection. Yeah. Was that the last audition you were on? The last audition I ever did was for Hudsucker Proxy. Whoa. Yeah. So it was for the Coen brothers. I mean, I'd read today for the Coen brothers.

23:30Was that the last audition you've ever done? No. My last audition was for Mike Nichols. Really? Wow. For Betrayal on Broadway. Wow. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow. When was that? Terribly. It was 2014. Wow. I remember I came in and I had listened to a lot of Harold Pinter to kind of do his accent. And I was going through a divorce at the time, so I was like, man, I'm feeling this thing. I don't know if you're aware of the play, but it's very much about that and infidelity and all that. Yeah. And so I got there and Juliet Rylance was the reader. She's a great, great actress, Mark Rylance's daughter. Yeah. And I did the first scene and Michael Nichols was quiet and he goes, um, where'd you get that accent?

24:22I was like, where'd I get it? He's like, where'd you get it? And I was like, oh, I was listening to Pinter. I was listening to some recordings and kind of trying to do that. He's like, oh, yeah, well, I guess different English people sound differently. And I was like, huh. And then, why don't we do the next scene? So I did the next scene. And then he goes, would it make you sad to do this play every night? What does that mean? I was like, trick question. How do you answer that? I was like, I'm just going to be honest. You know what? I was reading it on the subway ride over here, and yeah, I'm kind of going through something right now, and I feel really connected to the grief of that and the pain of that, and I feel like, yeah, it would definitely be delving into that night by night.

25:03And then Juliet Rylance, God bless her, she's like, but also fun too, right? I was like, oh, yeah, no, but also so fun. I mean, come on, doing this on Broadway with you. It'd be so fun. Yeah. And then they're like, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, and then I walked out. Who got it? Do you remember who got it? Rafe Spall. Okay. Yeah, Rafe Spall. And they did the play as a comedy. Oh. As well. How about that? So the right answer would have been the opposite of... Yeah, the right answer was the opposite. But the trick question is, just tell me, I want to do this as a comedy. So yeah, okay, then it'd be fun.

25:42Yeah. I know. Okay, so born in Guatemala, which I did not know either. And then Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami. Sean, is this question going to make you sad? Yes. But also fun. I'm going to have a blast asking it. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Wait, all that moving around before you were six years old. And why? Because your dad, that's what I read, that he was doing his medical something. Is it all because of your dad? Yeah, I mean, also just like that. Yeah, the immigrant story of like, you know, come to America for a better life. And so he grew up in D.C. He's Cuban. He was born in Cuba, but grew up in D.C.

26:20And then went to medical school in Guatemala, him and his two brothers. And that's where he met my mom. And then they had my sister. And then, yeah, then I was born as I was six months old. And then we moved to D.C. first, like Virginia, Baltimore area, did kindergarten there, then Louisiana because he went to LSU for his residency, and then Florida where we had family and his mom was there and we lived with my grandma for a bit. And eventually he became a doctor, yeah? Yeah. Was there any pressure on you to follow in his footsteps or did he fully embrace the actor thing? No, he kind of he was also a bit of a frustrated artist as well.

27:09Like he would make movies with his brothers on 8mm camera and that's what the initial spark was for you too? Yeah, he would bring home every Friday was like a movie night and he would bring home these mystery movies that we'd watch and then he bought a camcorder and we'd make home movies So he must have been kind of thrilled when you kind of got into this a little bit Yeah, he was into it until I became competition Is he still with us? He's still with us I brought him to the Frankenstein premiere in Venice. Oh, that's so cool. Which was good. Do you remember who the first actor was that he showed you that you kind of latched onto and was like, oh, I'd like to have those chops when I'm older?

27:53Tim Curry. Yeah. Oh, really? That's cool. I remember I saw, he showed, we watched Clue. Uh-huh. I love that movie. And then we watched Legend. Uh-huh. And when I realized it was the same fucking guy. What about Rocky Horror? Yeah, well then, yeah, Rocky Horror after that. Although Dad didn't bring that one home for movie. Yeah. But man, like I just, I couldn't believe that that was the same guy. And I noticed it because the way that his lip curled at one point, it was like the devil. And you went like, oh my God. Yeah. Oh, you can, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about, I don't have to jump around.

28:28Sorry, but what about, how about Cuba? I've always been fascinated with Cuba. Have you been able to go there since your dad has roots here? I haven't been. I haven't been. I grew up in Miami, Cuban world, which is like everyone's so traumatized and afraid and so complicated, but I've wanted to go. We almost went, when Llewyn Davis came out, actually we were going to go to the film festival and then at the last minute it didn't happen, but it's definitely a place I want to go. What is the current? I feel so dumb as usual. You can't go there freely? He's opened up for a moment under Obama and then closed up and now it's closed up again.

29:04Well, as an American, Canadians go. I know a lot of Canadians go there on holiday all the time. There are lots of flights. Oh, is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. To Cuba? Yeah. I mean, why would you want to go? Because it's beautiful? Oh, there's our quote for the day. There it is. I mean, fuck you. Enjoy your vacation. I mean, it's an incredible place. How many demographics are you trying to get rid of at once, man? I just didn't know what the draw was. Like, I know what the draw was. It's beautiful. Put the shovel down. It's got an incredible culture. Okay, okay, okay. I just didn't know people were like, hey, I can't wait to go to Cuba.

29:38They feel the same way about you and the mall. What's their dream? Why does he go to the mall all the time?

29:47Okay, so anyway, Oscar. So I grew up super, super Catholic. You grew up very, is it safe to say, evangelical or Christian? Evangelical, yeah. Evangelical. Now let's get into religion. No, I think it's fascinating because you were devout, right? We're talking spiritual abuse. Yeah, totally. Totally, I love talking about it. We don't have to talk about it, but I love talking about it. Dude, dude, because I know zero about religion. Please educate me. I mean, you know, there's some wonderful Catholics, there's some wonderful Christians, and then there's the ones that are beyond hypocritical. But do you guys know, like, what is the difference between Catholic, Christian, evangelical uh episcopalian protestant methodist lutheran they're all christian they're all into this big umbrella of christianity right but how what is the is there a singular difference that that separates each one of them like as far as interpretation of the bible goes or yes yes yes yeah i guess the short answer it's kind of but is it but is it like an identified like what could it be a jeopardy question like what is the single difference between lutheran and episcopalian is Is it one devotion?

31:01Well, put it this way. The Episcopal Church came from his Church of England, right? And it was established as a sort of an offshoot of Catholicism because Henry VIII wanted to be able to divorce his wife. Jesus Christ. So he established the Church of England. And Martin Luther comes along. And then, so of course, it's a little bit different. It's kind of like a lot of people describe Church of England as sort of Catholic light without all the pageantry. That's a sort of a simplistic view. And then there are all these different, yeah. Yeah, and in Catholicism, there's a lot more intercessors, I guess is the word, you know, like the saints and people that you pray to and, like you said, the pageantry, which, to go to Frankenstein, is a very Catholic Mexican version.

31:43Look at this pro. He talks about it very much in that way, you know, a lot of Christ figure, like the forensic nature of the crucifixion. How about in the movie when the monster's up in the thing? I was just shy of being a cross. I mean, it's definitely, no, we called it the crucifixion. There's even a thorn, you know, the metal thorns on the head. No, totally. I thought it was cool. But was that a conscious choice of Guillermo or whoever to not make it a specific cross but just at an angle? Have it a little bit angle? Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. I caught that. It wasn't an accident. Now, is working with Guillermo del Toro everything that you would hope and think that it is?

32:23he just strikes me as just such an infectiously enthusiastic and kind leader, not to mention his creative abilities are just unmatched. Yeah, yeah. It was, I was like a kid. There was just so much joy. It was so much, so much fun. It was this particular approach to it too. While he was writing it, he's like, I'm making you a banquet. He really did. It was just like a feast of stuff to do every day. We only spoke in Spanish to each other. He would direct in jokes mostly, like dirty Mexican jokes. He was just ebullient, really funny. There was no whispering behind monitors. If there was a problem, everybody knew it.

33:16If something was great, everybody knew it. It was just really, really fun. And it's like zero pretension whatsoever. He'd be like, cabron, I need a lot of jamón on this one. Jamón with mustard and mayonnaise to make it go down easy. I just need you to look up and look right past the camera and hold it. Or he'd be like, I need you to do the Maria Cristina, which is like a telenovela thing. He's like, I need you to be in profile and then walk across a counter to him and then stop and turn around and look. Right, super dramatic. He's like, just give it to me. Make this one Mexican happy. Wow. I love that.

34:00The scope of the movie is so massive. How long was the shoot? I mean, it spanned nearly eight months. Wow. Where was it? There was a two-month break where he shot miniatures in London. We shot it in Toronto and in the UK, Scotland. do you when you do something like that with a director like that who has such a vision right and he has such a but from what I understand from you also a very collaborative spirit do you not to get sort of too but do you when you are in that your ability what are the sort of the parameters or are there any of sort of bringing stuff in your thoughts and feeling like you can just go out on a limb with a guy like him.

34:51Is it just pretty wide open in that way? It is. That was the one thought when I was going into it. I know he's an animator. I know the visual language is so precise. And so I went in expecting, like, all right, the constraints are going to be tight, but that's the job. But he actually was in a very different – He talks about making the movie with Bradley really shifted him. It really opened him up in an amazing way. Nightmare Alley. Yeah, Nightmare Alley. He credits him a lot with just him learning how to listen to the movie. He would talk a lot about that while we were shooting it. The movie kind of tells you what it needs.

35:32In fact, at one point I was saying, I find myself, am I not shaking it up enough? Am I not being dangerous enough and going out on a limb enough? And he's like, no, that's an idea. It's like the movie kind of tells you what it needs and however you're responding is what it's needing. And if it's needing you to be this way, then don't second guess that so much. He gave a lot of feeling to all of us of like, you can't fail. I wrote this stuff for you. There's nothing to like reach for. Right, yeah. Which was great. And also, you know, but also it was a very, it's a very specific kind of performance.

36:09He said, you know, it's not naturalistic. it's heightened I want the speed of language speed of thought there's not a lot of pausing for you guys it's kind of high camp and high melodrama and just all heart like that's what he wants so he was really specific about the tone before you guys got started that's really helpful I bet for sure did he attempt to sort of give you a taste for that collectively by doing any sort of like table reads ahead of time or rehearsals in a group on like around a table no he didn't want to do that so much we had we did have one big table read uh with like the execs and all that uh and that was it i mean he you know because he was quite protective of the script as he was writing it um you know i think partly out of just like a little insecurity as well like i'm not sure it's quite there yet.

37:07And so he kept adjusting. I mean, every day he was working. Like even behind the monitor, he was drawing his storyboards. He would be quilting the movie as we went along. Sometimes you would do a take and he would put it right into the flow of the edit so he would just show you. We did the last scene of the movie and the next day he came in with, you know, Johan Johansson music on it and showed the edited scene to me. How did you like that, or how did it affect what you were doing? Well, I mean, that example in particular was interesting because it was the last scene of the movie, and so I want to try to talk about it without giving too much away of it.

37:46It's like a highly emotional crescendo of the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. And I spent the day in the zone, listening to all my sad sack music, and looking at pictures of sad times, doing the full anti-Mike Nichols moment. This is in the Arctic. Yeah, in the ship. And I went in and didn't talk to anybody and I laid down and we did this scene and there was tears and everybody was really happy and Guillermo was high-five and we got it. And then the next day he showed it to me and I was like, I don't really buy it. Like me. I was like, was that take five? I thought Take 5 was the good take. He's like, that's Take 5, Cabron.

38:33I was like, I don't think that's Take 5. And then we looked and it wasn't Take 5, but then Take 5 wasn't that much better either. Was it because you think that you came in with too much of that, too much of this and not listening to this? Check it out. Check it out what happened. So then I was sitting there and then Guillermo comes over and he's like, what's wrong? I was supposed to just do like a little insert of my hand, Greg grabbing his hand. And he's like, what's wrong? I was like, I don't know, man. I'm feeling a little insecure. And he's like, well, you are an actor. I was like, I know, I know.

39:00But I just feel like, should I have looked up maybe when I said sorry? Should I have, yeah, I just don't. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. Those are all ideas. You know, you were honest and you thought about your mom and you thought about all these things and that was there. And I was like, all right, okay. And then I went away for like 30 minutes and I was like, well, I just have to be a dead body for the rest of the day. And I came back and he had set up a whole different thing. And I was like, what are we doing? He's like, we're going to do it again. We're going to do your close-up again.

39:25And he's like, you know what? From yesterday. And he's like, you know what? It's okay. we definitely have something if you don't have anything, that's okay I'll just make fun of you for the rest of your life win win and so really quickly I'm throwing on my ear pods to try to find a song to get me sad I'm trying to do all the shit and I didn't have any time I laid down and we did it and we did four takes and it was way better I didn't have time to try to evoke anything or it was more sober it was more severe It just was like, it just was it. You didn't have to bring a preconceived idea of what it should be as opposed to just letting it be.

40:05Yeah, and that's what's in the film, you know. I love that. We'll be right back.

40:15And now, back to the show. So, but that adjustment in your performance came as a result of you watching what you were doing. And are you good about that? Because I'm sure you've worked as many actors as we have. but some actors they just they don't watch themselves they can't watch themselves I learned so much from seeing how bad I am sometimes it's like oh don't do that anymore or you think it's coming across this way but it actually comes across that's funny because I asked Christoph Waltz who's on it right it's like a legend I asked him specifically about that and he's like he doesn't watch he's like because it's okay if you watch and you think it's not good but the bad thing is when you watch and you think it's good you know and like that can be way worse why is that bad?

40:59Because then it's cut together and you're like oh maybe it wasn't that great. Or there's just like a self-consciousness or you think you know it's just for him but there's many times when I've watched something and I'm like I can do it better and I just can't you know it's in so I don't know man I don't know but there was a moment there after that happened where I was like well I'm going to have to watch every fucking take or every scene and I just said no you know I think yeah Yeah, for me, it's not like a definitive thought of like one or the other. I've also asked a bunch of people this question as well.

41:36Are you single? Yeah. And what is your sign? And you're rising. With the incredible directors that you've worked with, do you ever fantasize about cherry picking from each one of them and becoming a smoking director yourself?

41:54Yeah, sometimes, yeah. I thought originally that's what I was more into. I came into acting from making movies with friends and doing that. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I think about that sometimes. Oh, that would be awesome. You'd be incredible. Please do. You'd be great. When you say think about sometimes, do you have an idea in your mind of something that's kind of back there? I don't. That's why I'm like until that thing happens where it's like, I think until that happens. What scares me a little bit is just I'm incredibly indecisive as just a human being. Like even with a menu or with anything, I get just crippled.

42:33Like I don't know. So like someone being like red shirt or blue shirt, I'd be like, ah, I don't know. But I guess it's also a conversation. It's like I don't know. So kind of looking at it maybe as more of a conversation than a decision. Right, right, right. How do you do that, Jason? I mean, when somebody told me once, it's okay to say you don't know, it freed me up a lot. Like that's actually a great answer when they come to you with all those thousands of questions. You say, I'm going to come back to you on that. Give me a second to think about that. Yeah, it's okay to do that. Yeah, it alleviates a lot of the...

43:09You mean in live show, you're saying? Yeah. No, I mean it. I'm being serious. I think it's a really important life. I do it too also when people go, they want an answer. I'm like, well, somebody told me, I don't have to answer them on their timeline. That's right. Yeah, I only learned it in the last 10 years. I learned it a year ago. I don't know what that word means. I don't know what you're talking about. Can you repeat what you just said? Yeah. I don't care anymore. But I want to get back to, well, I don't care about being perceived as like this. Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. You know what?

43:40It's actually helped me with the not remembering people. I just go out on a limb and I'll think, I think your name is this. Oh, no. But I'm wrong. Oh, shit. it's okay. They say, no, it's not Kathy, it's Melissa. And I'm like, sorry. I go a step further, Oscar, I go, I think your name should be this. Sign the name. Wait, so a little more of your personal stuff, Oscar, if you don't mind, like your wife is this Elvira Lynn, she's beautiful, talented, incredible documentary filmmaker. Really? Yeah, she's incredible. Incredible. And she, I just saw the trailer and I did not know this until i was researching you for king hamlet which i can't wait to watch it's you playing it's it what is it is it the making of the play hamlet and it's following you around from about the process from rehearsal to no way is that what it is yeah so in 2017 it was this crazy confluence of things that happened where um my mother passed away in february my we got married in March.

44:47In April, our first child was born. And in April, I started rehearsals for Hamlet, like this four hour version of Hamlet, this thing that I was working on for like 12 years. And so her being a documentary filmmaker and having a new baby and like just kind of not knowing how to process this, you know, she's from Denmark too. And she's kind of thrust into this whole other world of stuff. She just started picking up a camera and started filming. You know, around that time before, before that, we were also filming, like I would play music and And she would like film little music videos and we would put them on Vimeo and stuff.

45:21And so it was kind of a natural extension of that. And so she just started filming because the idea was she was going to film some of the making of this project. And when all this stuff started happening, she just kept filming. So like when I went down to my mom for hospice, she was kind of there. And I told her, you know, the only way we can do this is if it's okay if this never sees the light of day as well. And she said, yeah, of course, of course. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm just filming because I don't know what the fuck else to do. And so that's what we did. And she filmed this whole process and then put it away.

45:55And then about a year ago, took out the hard drives and started looking through it and started piecing it together with her great editor that she's worked with. That's really cool. And then she kind of came up with this kind of beautiful movie about what kind of what we do, right? Which is how you deal with your life and how those things intertwine. Yeah. did she did she did she say to you hey remember that thing we said we'd never show the light of day i'm working on it did she tell you or did she show you something first she showed me something first she's like hey i've been putting this thing together what do you think of this and yeah and i watched it i was like i don't know what i think of that but keep going you know keep keep going oh that's really cool and with a newborn on her hip the entire time yeah she sounds incredible my god she's incredible yeah and she shot it as well and it's very it's very funny too because it's just it's the absurdity of everything that's happening and must have been very vulnerable to to watch that yeah yeah to watch it again i hadn't seen any of that footage especially with my mom and our family and you know it was uh yeah it was really really intense but really proud of her for doing it how did you guys uh how did you guys meet was it a juilliard No, no, no.

47:05She happened to be in New York working on something. Right. And it was like a movie she had finished, and it was like some after party for it. And my manager at the time was like, you've got to come to this party. And I was like, I'm not. I am preparing for my Coen Brothers movie. I am not going to go to this thing. He's like, dude, there's this chick. You just got to come. And I was like, all right. But I'm going to go dressed as Lou and Danis. With my cat and my guitar. Yeah, well, this was before I had started, right? But I dressed in the outfit, and I was like, and I'm going to go, and I'm going to try to do this thing where I can project warmth without smiling.

47:43I want to see if I can do it. Sure. Or tell a joke but not laugh to let anybody know it's a joke, and let's see what happens. And so I went in, and I was sitting there with my fingerless gloves and eating, and nobody else was eating. Oh, my God. And her being a documentarian was like, who's this little brown weirdo? in the corner and comes over and starts talking to me and then I told her I was a musician. No way. Perhaps you've heard of the closet heterosexuals. At one point she was like, I can't tell, are you flirting with me? And I was like, yeah, I am. Aw, that's cute. I love that. Are you a cat guy?

48:29I'm sure you asked. I bet that was the question at the junket. That was the question. Do you play guitar and are you a cat guy? It's so funny. A lot of these things that I'm saying too, I do realize there are anecdotes that I have said before. But they're new to us. It's funny, I don't know if you guys get this, but saying anecdotes after a while, you feel like, I think I'm lying. I've said this so much, I don't think this is true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. John, hang on. Star Wars, we'll get to it. I know, but and X Machina and Dune. I know, I can't wait. I used to think that I could speak to cats so I would like go to the backyard and like meow a lot and cats would come Hang on a second Let's just pause in here for a second Oscar Elaborate That was it It was just like And they would come That's why you like the joke That's why you like the joke so much I don't have a lot of time I don't have a lot of time I gotta get through this stuff because I want to know about Ex Machina Asked Machina Incredible.

49:32Listen to me. I've seen it like 10 times. I know every line. Scotty and I quote it all the time. You know, we still go, Kyoko, go-go, right? That made me laugh. Sorry. Wait, so it came out in 2014. Yeah, how crazy. Can you believe the relevance it has today? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Alex Garland, he's just... Wild, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, he keyed into this thing. And even the way that we gather information, You know, he talked, you know, Nathan, the character I play, talks about like, well, yeah, you know, I gather all the signals from all the cell phones and I get it all. And that's how I get it. I mean, everything you talked about in the movie is happening right now.

50:12Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I just. Yeah, I wonder, does that occur to you when you see stuff or you're reading stuff that's going on in the world and you go, yeah, yeah. I was there. Yeah. Yeah. but it felt like that when I read the script and Alex Garland and I kept talking about it and working on it and we would look at it from every angle and look at the current literature on everything that was going on at the time and it just it felt like completely locked in and yeah it's amazing how it holds up Alex Garland is I mean this guy I mean yeah let's hope not all your films are harbingers Dune Dune is a pretty bleak look into our future I know but now But an incredible film.

50:53My God. Amazing. And you're amazing in it. And Denis Villeneuve. Like you get all the great ones that you get to work with. I read this. I want you to tell the guys if you want to. I can tell it. Which is one of the best pranks I've ever heard of on any film shoot on Dune. When you, after the nude scene. Speaking of dance belts. Speaking of dance belts. Go ahead. You tell it, Sean. Well, it's called, what is it really called? You call it a cock sock, right? Well, or a modesty sock. modesty stock modesty stock not everybody calls it that but yeah I'm gonna get it wrong but you you left so you did the scene and you had a quote modesty stock on and you put it in Denis' jacket pocket right his chest pocket and he later pulled it out yeah well I left and then I got a picture of him holding it like what the fuck at the dinner table after the take that's hilarious and then he said He says this is true, that MoMA asked for it.

51:55Oh, my God. Oh, really? Really? Well, they'd be smart to get it. Hopefully they got a wall big enough. Yeah, right? Good for you. Good for you. Good for you. Shani, anything on Star Wars? I mean, yeah, just the dumb question, the obvious question. Is it real? Right, he's tattooing a real place. Look at this. what's Darth Vader like in the morning no the basic question is were you a fan were you freaked out that you got the part like was it were you a huge fan as a kid no but my family were huge huge fans like collectors and my uncle in particular was massive he loved making that phone call oh man that phone call was great and he came, he was an extra a couple times I remember I brought him he died a couple years ago so rest in peace but it was the most amazing thing I brought him and I couldn't find him and he was in Carrie Fisher's trailer just hanging out yeah, that's crazy to me that's crazy Scotty and I just visited the set of the new Star Wars movie with Sean Levy directing when I was in London and we got to go to the creature shop that's like everything we're for I don't know if you're into that.

53:16But I was just like, it's so cool that you were part of the reboot of this franchise. You were the first part of the reboot. I mean, it's wild. And look at where it's at now. It's like last night at the dinner table, Jason and we're all sitting around. And out of nowhere, I go, has anybody seen the trailer for Mandalorian and Grogu? Just silence. Except I said, I've seen it, and it's fantastic. Yes, I can't wait to see that movie. And didn't you say, yeah, that you have not seen the trailer or you refuse to see the trailer? Me? No, God, I saw it like 10 times. You didn't see it with the sound on or something like that?

53:50No, no, no, I saw it. Oh, no, no, there was a guy I was with yesterday said that he will not see it yet because it'll get his, he won't see it until it's closer to release because he's just going to get too excited. You can't sustain the excitement level. Yeah. All right, rapid fire before we let you go. Ready? Yeah. If we were roommates for a week, what would be the one Oscar Isaac Cork that would drive me insane and what's the one that I would love? You cook? Sean, look at you. I don't really cook. I mean, I can cook, but I don't cook a lot. So Sean's not happy with that. What would he love?

54:25Oh, God. What would drive you crazy? He wouldn't love that I don't cook very much. What would you love? Theater stories. Theater stories, hugs. I'm very affectionate. Oh, he loves a hug. There you go. Inappropriate, unnecessary, impromptu hugs. Hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs. Who's most likely to win in a board game? You, Jessica Chastain, or Ethan Hawke? Oh, I guess it depends on the board game. But, you know, Scrabble. How about Scrabble? Sure, sure. I'm going to go with Ethan because, you know, he's like a poet and a writer. And he's just, you know, that's kind of seasoned. I can't wait to see his show.

55:05Individual man. I know, me too. He's so incredible that day. Yeah, love him. And I love that you, I read that you improvised lullabies for your two sons. No way. You just sit there with a guitar and you just make up songs for them? I did. Well, now, it's funny because I did that for a while and then they were like, please stop. They got old enough to say stop. Yeah, they just didn't like whenever I would play guitar or sing and that went away for a bit. But recently in the last year, I just bought this looper pedal. So like, we've got this, you know, I'll just kind of show you a little bit. We've got like old drums here.

55:38Oh, look at this. And the guitars, there's the looper pedal down there. There's a lot of piano over there. And so we've just been making a lot of music together. How old are they? He's going to turn six. Mads is going to turn six on Sunday, and Eugene is eight. Oh, my God. Prime time. I know, that's so good to get them into that young. Sean, how old are we when you start playing piano? Five. Really? There you go. Yeah. What do they, do they, have they seen dad's movies or anything? Yeah. Yeah, they've seen some of them. They've seen Star Wars. Eugene was actually asking me about Star Wars yesterday.

56:16How were they with the notes? Are they kind with the notes or is they? They're a little tough with the notes, I gotta say. Kids are tough. I can't, I can't say enough about you and Frankenstein. I just think it's an incredible performance. It just blew me away. I can't say enough about you and everything, Oscar. I know, it's true, Oscar. Including this interview. You were fantastic, and you were very nice to join us. Yeah, you were a classic. Really, really cool. Thanks, guys. And, Will, I can't wait to see what you did in that movie, man. Oh, he's so good. Wait till you see that. He and Bradley just rocked it.

56:50Thanks, man. No, you're one of the greats. You're one of our greats, man, for real. Yeah, you are. And you're a great dude. We hung out a couple times. You're such a great dude. It's so good to see you, man. Yeah, thank you for being here, man. Thanks for having me. Enjoy the rest of your day. Good luck with Frankenstein. We're all going to go see it. What a talent! What a talent! Thank you, Oscar. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Oscar. Bye, pal. Bye. Well, that was tough saying goodnight to Oscar there. I could talk to him forever. Oh, my God. He's in so many of my favorite movies. I know.

57:29That Ex Machina is just incredible. But wait till you see Frankenstein. I can't wait. Incredible. Everything that guy does is so incredible. I know. How is somebody so good? I know. He's so good. It's all I have to say. I'm like blown away. Literally, we're all thinking here about all those different performances. You're like, oh, yeah, he's so good at that. Yeah, he's so good at that. Oh, he's so good at that. Yeah. Do you think it's something in the water at Juilliard? Or do you think they come in already talented? I think they do a pretty good job of vetting. Right. You know, there aren't, but what we should do is we should do an episode where we have the people from Juilliard who never did shit.

58:06We are bright. Right, have them on. We were right. Or the people that didn't make it in, you know. Or the people who didn't make it. Well, it's us. It's us. There we go. There's the first three. It doesn't get shittier than us. Do you think they, yeah, do you think they do, like, do you think they teach people musicals in Juilliard? Like what? Like, can you think of any other top of your head? Like maybe like bye-bye birdie. Why don't you commit to it? Oh, bye-bye birdie. Bye-bye birdie. That was a really short outro. Smart. Less.

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