"Paul Rudd"

24:27And I think, yeah, we always were just kind of the new kids in school. We got very used to it. We didn't really know any different. But like did that shape your, at an age where you're kind of learning your personality and kind of what your strong suit is and what isn't. You know, are you funny? Are you blah, blah, blah. Like, did you find that you were perhaps made you nicer earlier because you had to be accepted by these new groups all the time? Uh-huh, yeah. Possibly. Yeah, I sometimes think that, you know, a good way to kind of ingratiate yourself or just not get your ass kicked is to just be kind of pleasant and if you can make somebody laugh, then you can be accepted a little bit easier.

25:13I certainly was drawn and always have been drawn to people who are funny. I mean, my dad was hilarious. And I think that, you know, when I'd be, yeah, probably in some new school or something, I'd go home and I'd listen to those Steve Martin records. Yeah, that album, Get Small. Did you ever listen to that? Yeah. What about British humor? Because my mom's British as well And she really shaped my taste in dry, kind of no-winking humor. Did your dad do that for you? Well, I think that some of the earliest things I can really remember laughing at was they used to show Monty Python's Flying Circus on PBS.

25:56Yeah, I loved it. And my parents loved it and we'd watch it and I thought it was hilarious. I never really understood or thought in terms of like British comedy or British sensibility but I did always respond to that and then when Fawlty Towers was on it was just one of my favorite shows of all time oh you guys like that? Monty Python's a great example holy shit there's no way you guys like Fawlty Towers? Sean you really like that? fucking let the world know man yeah you guys discovered this but like Monty Python and there's like, there's the broad half of the, of the troop. And then there's like the dry half of the troop.

26:35Like there's Michael Palin, you know, being crazy and goofy. And then you cut to John Cleese and he's just blinking at him like you fool. Which, which were you drawn to? Was, was it the John Cleese side since you, you went to Fawlty Towers? Well, Cleese is always, yeah, hilarious. I think that, I think I just, there was like an absurdity to it. And there was also something it might have been the first time and maybe why i was drawn to steve martin as well but it was like oh my god there are grown-ups that are being completely silly i remember that twit of the year competition as a kid and i crying i couldn't believe how funny it was to see these grown-ups acting this way yeah and i mean there was still so much with same with steve martin where it was this kind of ridiculous, I'm getting happy feet kind of thing.

27:26Right, yeah. I want to know about glazing hams because that was one of your odd jobs out of school. What do you mean glazing hams? What does that even mean? It means glazing hams. Yeah. Like what does that though? What do you mean? Did you work at Honey Baked Ham? No, that was our competitor. Sorry, sorry. No, no. What do you mean glazing them though? Oh, it's still touchy. Yeah, it's a hot spot. Look, it's just, Please don't bring that up to anyone at Holiday Ham Company because they had a real issue with honey bake. Wait, but how do you glaze a ham? Like, what do you do? It's a whole process, Sean.

28:01Let's keep it clean here. Sounds like a YouTube how-to video. How do you glaze a ham? Is it like in a factory? No, no. It was in like a mini mall. Oh, I see. Like personalized ham. It was a standalone store. Oh, got it. Honey bake, I believe, is a chain, isn't it? Okay, got it. I just want to know. I don't mean to besmirch Honey Baked. No, no, no. Nobody took it that way. No, no, no. Thanks. I think we're a public company by now. There's one thing I don't want to do. It's piss off the people at Honey Baked Ham. No. Paul, you don't have a target on your back now. Don't worry. The gang over at Honey Glazed, okay?

28:40I love... Yeah, go ahead. Oh, no, no. What do you love? No, you go. You go. What were you going to say? Guys, don't fight. All right. I was gonna... You go. Jesus. No, you go. This is a great bit. Please. It is a great bit. It's the new Laurel and Hardy. I wanna know where you worked. I wanna know where you worked. Oh. I worked at the Holiday Ham Company. No, you were gonna say something else about working. So I worked at this place. Yeah. And it was a whole... When I say it was a whole process, I would get there very early in the morning and I would unload a truck filled with ham. Naked ham. These aren't glazed yet.

29:17Right? These are unglazed. Oh, you're talking about unglazed hams. Yeah. All hams. By the way, this isn't like pigs hanging in a truck. These were ham hocks. Are they hocks? Thank you. Sure. And they were cryovacked, vacuum sealed. Oh, wow. And what I would have to do is unload a truck at like five in the morning, and then I would have to cut open. Release them from their sheaths? Yes, exactly. cut open the plastic, and then I would have to put them, these entire ham hocks. So far, I haven't heard one thing that we're going to keep in the episode, but go ahead. Yeah, no, no, this is absolutely, it's boring myself as I even listened to myself to describe it.

30:04So there you are. You're unloading. You got a truck full of unblazed hands. So I got a truck. So I got to put it on a thing. I slice it. I dice the whole thing. I got to cut it in half with a saw. I put it on a spit, and then I take a propane torch and a sugar sifter and I have to wear protective gear on my wrists. Same approach to acting. Same approach to your acting. That's exactly right. That is how I approach all of my roles. And how long were you longer in this job than you were at the Bevic's place, the 50s joint? Oh, at the - Studebaker's. Yeah, at Studebaker's. I went from Studebaker's to Holiday Ham Company.

30:41So, you know - Did you cut your hair before you were handling those hams? Sorry, can I ask, did you have the long hair when you were handling the hams, or did you have hair? Yeah, they didn't care. No, but you had to put that shit in a net, though, didn't you? By the way, I think I had it in a net. Yeah. Net the hair. Yeah. It was in a net. I was in the back. So if I was up front dealing with customers, there's no way they'd have it. You snapped that off. There's no way they'd allow it. Comb it out. Yeah. Now, I can only imagine, though, you know at least one or two of those long hairs as we're getting glazed into the ham.

31:13I just thought it would be a good Italian place called I Can Only Imagine. It's just cannolis. It's terrible. It's terrible stuff. It's Saturday. It's Saturday, and it's free. And it's free. So go ahead, Sean. Sean, get to your laundry list of questions and forget trying to have a conversation with Paul Rudd. Let me help you out, Sean. Fucking check off your fucking... We've got Paul fucking Rudd here. He's one of the most handsome... By the way, Paul, and I've seen it in stuff before. you look you always look so fucking good you're so handsome you're so good we're around the same age what are you doing just honestly just an email with a couple tips he sleeps in an olive oil bag eight hours a day you say the most important thing is eight hours a day that's what you say it isn't what I said I think I said something about sleep once where it was like oh yeah this is you try and get enough sleep I sleep a lot I don't look anything like you can I you know what the secret is what love oh my god that's our time who knew love and love Love and laughter.

32:12You saved it. I mean, Julie will have you back now. Who knew? This is, ugh. We'll be right back.

32:22And now, back to the show. No, seriously, Paul, anything weird ever happen on stage? Real quick, before we're out of time. No, no, no. Well, yeah. You did a lot of theater. I don't know if you listen to the podcast, but I love good theater stories where something went wrong. I know, of course. Yeah? I do. Do you have anything ready? Or you can sub it out for a Star Wars story if you ever audition for it. No, I have lots of other questions. Great theater stories. Yeah, yeah, something bad happened in a theater. Oh, something really bad. Yeah, no, no, I've had, I actually, well, I've done a show where somebody died in the audience.

32:54On stage? Oh, in the audience. There was a death. There was a death in the audience. There was somebody went to the bathroom in like the fourth row. That was an interesting thing. They get a whiff of that during the scene. No way. Somebody lost control of their bowels. So not only did you kill, but you acted the shit out of that part. Nice. Bravo! Thanks, guys. Well, it wasn't me that did it. Oh. Yeah. No, that would be, actually, that would be horrifying. Wait, what was the show and somebody really died? Somebody died last night of Ballyhoo was the show. These were two separate occasions. Okay.

33:31Unless I'm conflating them and they shit themselves in the way. And they die, because that often happens. By the way, it's often, I think it even happens in the other order where it's like you die and then you wind up just shitting yourself. That's how shake that happens. So wait, so the person died. I've had somebody, by the way, I've also done a show where somebody in the middle of a scene, I heard a bunch of commotion in the audience and then didn't realize it didn't subside. So it's like, what is happening? Only later came to realize that somebody in the front row of the balcony leaned over and puked on all of the people below.

34:06Oh, my. No way. Swear to God. Yeah. It was a show called Grace. And there was a scene, and I was doing it with Michael Shannon. No way. And Michael Shannon had this long monologue. We're doing the scene. It's just the two of us. We hear this noise. We're both aware that, like, there's a commotion. But usually it dies down, and it's getting louder and louder. and Michael is pissed off and starts screaming his lines toward the direction of the noise. To make a point. Which, of course, when Michael Shannon is yelling at you, like it's the most terrifying thing. It's the thing that did make everybody kind of quiet down.

34:49And then after this scene, I have to rush over to the wings to do a costume change. And I asked the stage manager, I said, what the hell's happened? What happened out there? and he's the one that said somebody threw up. Somebody was drunk and threw up over the balcony and it puked onto about 10 different people. I'm covered in barf. This show's not for you, huh?

35:18Fucking matinees. That's amazing. Should've seen the Lion King.

35:30Yeah. So, yeah. Wow. That was a great button. Fucking wait, Sean, this is like your fucking dream come true. I know, finally. A million great theater stories. I know. Talk about the person who died. Learn that after the fact. You're like, oh my God. They had to close down and then eventually they had to bring somebody, like a stretcher to get somebody out of there. Oh, wow. Wow. It's weird. I mean, you know, you hear of people dying on stage. Yeah. But you don't hear as much about people dying near the stage. Yeah, yeah. but did you so you stopped the show yeah you stopped and they right we did not stop you didn't keep going you kept going I don't think dude are you kidding are you kidding he fucking he killed by the way died the guy we slayed him yeah died nearing the end of the show yeah and so you finished I'm not so sure anyone realized oh right until until it was over until people were shuffling out of the theater and one guy stayed sounds like a nice peaceful passing It was definitely a courteous way to go for us, for the actors.

36:34That's great. Now, Sean, I know you have plenty. I've told, I think I've told every single good one on here. Is there one you haven't told yet? I mean, I'd have to think about it. Me and Raina are at the dinner theater. Yeah, right. I've had, by the way, I had one. Now they're all kind of coming, they're flooding back. I did a scene, I was lying on top of a bed. I was doing a scene I was lying on top of a bed and I'm with this woman Rachel Weisz was in the show and I was wearing boxer shorts and a t-shirt and all of a sudden this had never happened before I heard the audience laughing and I'm like what is going on and I realized it's because I was lying on the bed I had my leg up and kind of like and I realized my balls were hanging out.

37:27No. Which is worse than actually like even your penis. It's like when it's just your balls. Or just one ball. By the way, it might have been just one ball. But it was loose fitting boxers. You know what's crazy about that? Yeah. You know what's crazy about that? Your balls were showing in that show and the show was The Shape of Things. Yeah. That's exactly right. Nice. That's exactly right. That was the show. The shape of things. Yeah. That's nice. They were pendulous. I have one that's not as racist. The shape of things should have been, and the poster should have been your balls hanging out of shorts.

38:02I think we've all seen the shape of those things. With the great Fred Weller, with our mutual friend Fred Weller, whom we adore. Yes. Great Fred Weller. You guys go back. Do you, you know, what's another one in my mind is, we were doing West Side Story. This isn't as funny, but we were doing West Side Story and, you know, the Jets and the Sharks, and when they negotiate the rumble, they say, you know, knives, guns, pipes, fists, whatever. And this one guy, Darren... Yeah, well, you just blew the joke. But, uh... But, you know, it's like that. So Darren, Darren, my friend Darren, who's the most gayest man on the face of the planet, and wears it with a badge of honor.

38:40He's very, very, very funny. But he was a jet and he's trying to act tough. And, you know, during performance 250, they go, guns, knives, you know, pipes, fists. And he just jumps out and he goes, purses.

38:55Same joke. Same joke as dance. No, I guess. That's funny. You had to be there. You had to be there. All right, so listen. When you're scrolling through because you've been in... I want to go through before you leave. I mean, my God. I had all these things. You're in an hour 10. Let this guy get back into his weekend. I know. Sorry. Wild Oats and Clueless. Your credits are fucking sick. A Wet Hot American Summer and Friends. You run on Friends as an anchorman. By the way, and then 40-year-old Virgin and Knocked Up and working with Judd Apatow and role models and Ant-Man that you wrote. I didn't know you wrote Ant-Man.

39:25That's crazy. No shit. I didn't know that. Yeah. Well, one of them. One of the writers. One of the writers. It was originally written by Edgar Wright, who I just worked with, who's the best. The best. I love him. We love Edgar. He's a friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. He should come on, Willie. Adore him. Yeah. So wait, what do you expect? I might need to be a two-parter. Yeah, I know. There's so many things. I know. Shit. You get into the fucking credits are crazy. I know. But anyway, so friendship, though. You don't have to get into my credits, honestly. No, it's incredible. But the people, they want to know Paul.

40:00I know. You know? They want to know about the moments and the movies. I can't believe they didn't even ask him about it. The Apatow years. I know. I mean, you and Judd collaborated on so many of those movies that were huge, seminal comedies. Yeah. That really kind of changed. Yeah. Think about it. At that time, when you guys did 40-Year-Old Virgin, and that really changed the trajectory of comedy films. Like it kind of went into a, it created a whole new lane. He's a great Judd Apatow. He launched all kinds of folks. Yeah. He's great. The first time I ever met Judd was, it really is a weird thing.

40:39I don't know if you guys feel this way about those Steve Martin records. I know we've talked about them a lot, but it seems as if a lot of people in our generation, those albums had a big effect on them. Sure, yeah. And as did Steve Martin in general. And one time I was at a dinner and I was talking about fake names and how it's so difficult to come up with a perfect, funny, fake name. And I said, a great example is Gern Blanston, which was from an early Steve Martin routine. And someone at the dinner said, Gern Blanston oh that explains Judd Apatow's email address oh wow and and I and I think at this time there was only AOL I'm like oh that's hilarious yeah he's like Gern Blanston I don't think he has this anymore in case anybody wants to email him um but uh anyway I I went home and emailed Judd I'd never met him.

41:35No way. And I said, hey, man, nice reference on your email address. That's amazing. And he emailed me back. And that's how you guys started? And that's how we met. And then he emailed me back and said, oh, I'm glad you've emailed me. It's nice to connect with you. Now I know who to hit up if I ever need tickets to a new Neal Abute play because I've just done a bunch of Neal Abute plays. Anyway, we kept emailing each other for about a year. We became kind of pen pals, never met each other. And it wasn't until Anchorman that I actually met him in person. Oh, wow. That's crazy. Wow. And when I went into audition, he was there.

42:14And it was a little bit like, you know, meeting your pen pal. It's like, oh my God. Wow. I can't believe, there you are. I can touch you. The person who's been catfishing. I didn't want to touch him, but. It didn't mean real. Yeah. Now that your character in Anchorman looks very similar to the character in Friendship. Was that on purpose? no, it wasn't on purpose. Although in Friendship, in the script, the character that I was playing was originally called Brian, which was the name of my character in Anchorman. And I thought, maybe we should change that name just because I also have another mustache.

42:50The mustache was just something that seemed like, oh, this is the kind of thing that this guy would probably. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's a weatherman. He's a weatherman. And so it's really funny. You're so good in it. And the movie is so great. Well, I got to say, you know, Tim, it's really Tim. And Tim is so funny. And I don't know if you've ever watched I Think You Should Be, which I think you probably have. He's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. He's incredible. I mean, he really has his own take on all of this stuff. And that was just such a blast to kind of get to work with him and see what he was doing.

43:26Have you ever seen a show? What is it, Detroit? Is it just called Detroiters? Yeah. What's his name? Tim what? Detroiters is incredible. Robinson. It's incredible. You would love him, Jason. I remember I met him when he was a writer on SNL. And, you know, everyone, even at that time at SNL, said, oh, well, I mean, this guy, Tim Robinson, is the funniest. Yeah. And he directed and wrote and is an actor in this film, Friendship? He is starring in it. He didn't write it. It might be the only thing I think he's ever done that he didn't write. However, the guy who directed it is a guy named Andrew D.

44:02Young. Yeah, he's great. He also wrote it, and he's friends with Tim and completely captures Tim's voice. I mean, when I read it, I would have sworn that Tim wrote it. Was there a lot of improv on the movie? I mean, there was some, but, you know, it's funny. When we kind of started, we were talking about it, and Tim said, let's take out all of the jokes. He wanted no jokes. and so it was very it wasn't really like this perceived as this silly comedy I mean I know that Andy the director said that he envisioned the master the Paul Thomas Anderson movie we could do like a weird comedy version but very strange of that and so it wasn't really there was certainly some improvisation but but neither one of us was trying to really hit anything too funny.

45:01And I apologize. Can we see this now? It's coming out. Can't see it now. I think it's coming out in, I don't know, April or May. What the fuck did Sean see it? I got a little screen. He gets a link. So depending on when this airs, perhaps. Yeah, so April, May. It's a spring release on this, huh? Yeah, spring release. Like all the beautiful things that come out in spring. Well, we're really excited about it. We're really excited about you, Paul. We love you. Paul. You're a tremendous talent. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Bullish about your career. I think you're going to do great. Thank you. I'm so happy to be doing this.

45:35And like, it's such a, you guys are so awesome. The show is so funny. I'm so happy to be on this finally. Yeah. I know. It's a crime. We broke a lean down and we got you here. Yeah. No. No. Look, you guys have, you got a lot of people to talk to. I'm honored to be one of them. We're very, very happy that you came. Yeah, honored that you came. Thank you for spending some Saturday nights. I sure wish my connection was better. No, no, no. Don't think twice about that. Don't worry about getting at Honeyham's or your Wi-Fi connection. None of it. Don't think. I'm not going to. Yeah. We didn't talk about the Royals.

46:14We didn't talk about the Chiefs. We didn't talk about the Blues. Yeah, nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody wants to talk about that. By the way, well done with the Dodgers. You really want to lose the audience? Shut up, baby. Part two. Part two Rudd. You get two U's, you get two episodes. I'll tell you who would turn the volume up. Jason Sudeikis and Claire McCaskill. That's who you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would. What's Bobby Witt going to do this year? And the great Dandies also of Kansas City fame. The great Dandies friend of the show. The great Dandies. Good friend of ours. Double D.

46:44Paul Rudd. Pauly. You're just... Good to see you, my friend. All the love to you and Julie and the kids. You're world-class. Tip-top. Thank you. Tip-top, Paul. You guys are the best. And I can't wait to see you in person. It can't come here soon enough. We'll be at the candy shop soon. Yeah, we're going to do a Smartless outing. Let's do a live show from the candy shop. Oh, there we go. Look, anytime you want. Claude Hoppers for all of you. Free. That's a good fake name. I know something. Claude Hoppers. We're sweet on you, Paul. Oh, there it is. All right. Beautiful button. What a button. A candy button.

47:25I'm on my way to, I can only believe it.

47:31Pauly, have a great day. We love you. Goodbye. Thank you. Love you guys. Thanks so much. Yes. Thanks, dude. Take care. Bye. Bye, pal. Paul Rudd. Paul Rudd. What can you say? I mean, we've said this before about people, but that is an overdo of overdoes. Yeah, I know. Should have been on a lot of time ago. It's almost embarrassing how overdue we are. I feel bad I didn't get into his stuff, you know, like all the... You didn't get into anything, Sean. This is one of the least prepared episodes I've ever seen you host. And I can't believe a former member, Jason, a former host of the year nominee.

48:05Remember? Yeah, for sure. Well, you know, but if he gets into the sugar, like any fucking little three-year-old, you can't count on him. Guys, I've failed you again. I bet they are regretting that nomination a couple years ago in that gang when they... Well, aren't you on that board too? Yeah. The iHeartRadio? Yeah. No. Well, these days I'm only bored when you're hosting, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I do think if we ever soften on the repeat guest policy, you guys are enforcing like fucking... Live show. He'd be a live show. Oh, that'd be a good live show. I'll be a good live. We could just go through all its credits and talk about funny stories.

48:41Yeah, we'll go funny stories. I love that. Yeah, I do like that man a lot. But Willie, remember when he was talking about walking in Canada and he was walking on the, what was it? Here comes a bye. He's walking on the... He went to the Byway! By... Smart. Less.

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