"Penelope Cruz"

28:10It's the vibe you put out too, right? And also what you wear too. Like if you look all great and fabulous or if you look like you're trying to hide with a hat and big glasses, people, you stand out like a sore throat. You're a trauma worker. Yeah, but if you just like, there's no hiding whatsoever. It's just a little sweatshirt or something. Well, we had a guest on, one of our guests who's a friend of the show, I won't name him, but he had, years ago, I'd gone to his house. One of the biggest film actors on the planet. And we went to his house and he said, and I was giving him a lift home. And we get to his gate that was barely like a gate.

28:41And then he said, just punch in the code. I said, what's the code for the 2468? I said, come on, man. No, 2468. And then you could walk around it if you want. We get up to his house and we walk in and the front door is open. And I said, dude, what are you doing? You're crazy. I mean, this is guys like that. And he goes, I don't live like a prisoner. Right. And if I put that vibe out in the world. Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true. Probably take less attention like that. I totally, by the way, totally agree. I'm like, if somebody is going to get me, they're going to get me. If somebody, you know.

29:09Well, why do you have that? You have that sign that says Sean Hayes lives here in front of your house. Yeah, but I mean, you can see behind some hedges. wait listen Penelope before we go any further I want to ask you and this is a tough question and you can feel free to not answer it we can always cut it out Real Madrid or Atlético Madrid you know what I know that I mean I do because that's another thing that changes when you are a mother and suddenly you see they like football but then you start loving football too I have a family that is from Atlético family from Barcelona, club family from Real Madrid.

29:47And I think they're amazing teams, but I am loving everything more Real Madrid. What can I say? Very, very good. I love, I'm a huge football fan and I'm obsessed and actually like both those teams as well. They have great players. We're recording this right around the holiday season. And are you a big holiday fan? Do you love Christmas or I don't know what you guys celebrate? Do you guys go skiing? Do you like the beach instead? It's just about being with the family. And since I have my kids, I really see, I get to experience again Christmas like when I was little. And it's like having a second chance to experience that magic.

30:37And it's incredible. I love it again so much. For a few years, it was just like one more part of the year. But now it's a big deal. It's become a big deal. My three-year-old this morning, he was saying that he wanted to get this truck. It was like a crane thing. And I said, okay, well, we'll see if Santa comes. And he goes, no, you buy it. And I said, no, no, no. We're going to see if Santa goes, Dada, you buy it. But how old? How old is he? He's three and a half. Yeah. Too young. What do you think is too old to be still in the Santa world? I'm saying this gently because I don't know how young our listeners are.

31:18I feel it's when they're ready. Yeah, when they're ready. When they're ready, when they're ready. Maybe your son is ready now. I know, it's a little shocking. But when they're ready, they're going to ask in a different way. He doesn't think that I'm Santa. No, no, no. He's just saying that he doesn't want to wait for Santa. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Oh Adorable Was he on the potty there? I love it He was in the potty He looks very excited About his movement Daddy look Believe me He's I asked him this morning also I'm not going to get to it But I asked him Who's the boss And he said me I said you're not the boss Anyway I remember I remember in Christmas Like my mom used to Get us so much more in debt Than we already were Christmas was like The number one thing in her life, she would max out her credit cards and mortgage the house just so we could have presents.

32:13And as I got older, I'm like, I don't know if this is the greatest business model for our home. You're leaving us with another gift too, Mom. That's debt. By the way, it's very much symbolic of the age that we live. You watch these ads now on TV and they're all like, everybody's going to go to one of these big box stores and they're like, well, dad needs a CD player. My son needs a new big screen TV. And I'm like, what kind of money do people have that they're spending? You know what I mean? Like they're having these huge, it seems crazy. Anyway, I don't want to hear that. I also remember really quick, just while we're on the subject, my mom constantly with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth, constantly 24 hours a day, filling the stockings by the fire and then by the tree that was real with her lit cigarette, just putting stuff under the tree.

32:59That was my dad too. Really? Really? Oh, yeah, smoking in the house and doctors telling him, you have to quit. And he was saying to us, this is a complot of the family. It's not true that I have to quit. You are all talking to the doctor. What a character. How is the smoking in Europe? There's still a lot of smokers in Europe, correct? Much less, much less. I mean, I grew up spending time every day in a hair salon because my mom owned a hair salon. Oh, really? Everyone was smoking in front of all the kids. No way. Combination of that plus all the toxicity of all the products. Can you imagine? You can smoke in the elevator over in Europe.

33:39No, no. There's ashtrays in the elevators. When? Yeah. When I was in Paris a couple of years ago, there were still ashtrays in the elevators. I don't know. I think it's like now. No, no, no. No, no, no. Wait a second. Penelope, how many languages do you know? everyone that lives in Europe knows like five languages. Well, I speak Italian, Spanish, English, with this accent that I don't know when I will get rid of. And French? Yes. Oh my God. D 'accord, on peut parler français. Okay. Si tu veux, si tu veux, mais... Je peux essayer. Oui, moi aussi. Mon vocabulaire c 'est limité. It's not French Canadian, by the way.

34:24How dare you? I could listen to... We'll do everything on. So, Penelope, you know, obviously I don't know you. It's such a pleasure to meet you. It's so nice you're doing this show. Thank you, Penelope. I love it. This is so much fun. I could be here for five hours straight. Okay, great. Well, we have two minutes. So, no, I'm kidding. Where are you going? No, we have... No, um... Sean, believe me, Sean has eight hours that he needs to fill today. So this is perfect. If you could just stick around until seven tonight. No, it seems like, you know, there's certain points in my life that I can remember changed me.

34:57and I grew from... I'm going to sneeze. Sorry. Oh, I love that. You can announce it. That was the best. There's our clip. That's our first ever sneeze. That is... I love that. Sometimes I sneeze eight times in a row. Oh, my God. I do three. It's always three. It's going to happen. I did it. I did it today. I did it this morning, too. I think it's going around. I sneezed. What about people who muffle their sneezes? It's my favorite thing to do. And people that stifle them, I'm like... I can't. Just let it out. You're depraving yourself of one of the greatest releases ever. Yeah, that has to be bad for you.

35:31Yeah, sneeze edging is no good. All right, keep going, Sean. Sean, keep going. My thing was, there's certain points in my life that I can recall changed me, where I grew from them, where I learned. Fill in joke here. There were experiences that made me grow up quickly and realize and see things differently. And you seem like, again, not knowing you, you seem like you have an amazing no bullshit meter. Oh, thank you. That's a great compliment. You can call it out right away. Were there certain moments in your life that taught you that, that you can remember? You're like, you know what? Because of this experience, I have now changed.

36:10I'm going to call you on that now so it doesn't happen to me again. Yes. A few things, like crucial moments in my life that I remember that were like a turning point in terms of like, Oh, actually, you can respect yourself that much and it's okay. No, and it's not just okay. I feel so much happier. And moments like this, I feel like if you get to live a long life, those things you remember before you go, I'm sure. Yeah, do you remember what some of those are or those moments, if you want to share them? For example, working with Michael was very interesting that way because he's very, very tough.

36:48And I loved, we didn't have a lot of free time there. We were working really hard nonstop. But sometimes if we had 10 minutes in between shots, I just wanted to talk to him about, without calling it that in front of him, but it was about his toughness, you know, about the reasons why he has no problem saying no, which is sometimes harder for me. And he said, he answered something so brilliant. He said, you know, there is no free lunch. There is so much in that answer that I needed to hear that advice. Yeah, there is no free lunch. Meaning like if, I don't want to give a specific example, but there are times in your life when you know you have to say no to something and so many justifications and all, but that will make you say, yes, you don't want to hurt somebody's feelings.

37:42You don't want to, no, no, no, it's too complicated. But you feel like what's the right thing to do. And he's very like, very honest that way. and has no problem saying. And then you're like, oh, I didn't know that it's okay for me to say no. Yeah. Well, that's a boundary thing, right? That's like a boundary. It's a boundary thing, meaning there is no freelance. If you don't say no when you know you have to and you accumulate too many of those, one day you're going to explode. I know because I had to learn that too, yeah. Well, same here. And JB, Sean, you and I talked about with JB. I said within the last year, Jason, I said to you, I really respect your ability to draw boundaries for yourself.

38:23You've gotten, you're really good. You really set a good example. For me, I think it took me to get older to understand. And it is, Penelope, like you say, when you start to be able to say no or to draw a boundary and say this is my boundary, it's so freeing because you feel, you take a little bit of power back and you're able to go like, yeah, that's not okay for me. Yeah. And then, you know. It's very difficult to learn that. Yeah. Also, as an actress starting very young, when you depend on others to say yes to you to work, and then you realize that, oh, maybe I have to say no, for example, to this project.

39:00And how can I allow myself to say no to that? That's also a huge lesson. Thank you for saying that, Will. But one of the things that I worry about is that I get meaner or that people will think, oh, well, he's being mean. You do. Right, or he's crankier. And while that might be the case, to compensate for that, I have expanded my nice side. When there are moments that I feel like I should be nicer or I should be generous in this moment or do that thing, I end up doing more of those things and being nicer when it is time to be nice. I see you making the... I've seen you making the effort lately.

39:42I swear to God. I'm not kidding. It's not about the no. It's about how you say the no. Yeah. How you say it and what you're saying, Jason, is you're just more honest. And that doesn't make you meaner. You're just more honest. Because behind a lot of yeses that you don't want to say, there is a... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. There is no way. I learned that lesson and I'm not going back to where I was. By the way, we are still owed seven more sneezes. Yeah. I know, but it's not happening. We'll wait. Yeah. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. One of our friends gave us a good tip. They said, because, you know, someone will ask you, hey, you know, next month, would you mind coming over to my place and helping me out with such and such?

40:35You might say, sure, yeah, you know, because it's a month away. And then the day comes, and you're like, oh, I can't believe I said yes to that. This person said, here's what you do. You have to imagine that it's for tomorrow. if you don't want to do something tomorrow that's your answer say no today you just imagine that it's tomorrow if you don't want to do it tomorrow then go ahead and say no today yeah and you replace it with tomorrow it's kind of a good I want to ask you this is going to be we're sort of I'm veering way off topic it's going to ask you to do something in a few months and just pretend I'm just going to say no okay wait let's see okay it's a bag with 30 million euros in it but I guess no um listen uh um no I was gonna ask you about um I love Madrid I've been there a few times I think it's really such a phenomenal city I really love Spain and um one of my great nights that I had in Madrid was with with an old friend of mine who lives there who's lived there for 20 25 years different business finance good guy to No.

41:39But he took me out. We went for drinks. Then we went to an Atletico Madrid game. And then we went for dinner. It was a Sunday night. And we sat down for dinner at about 11 p.m. Yeah. Oh, God, I'm out. And it was just starting to fill up. And the families, it was that very famous restaurant where everybody goes, I forget what it's called, but it's a very sort of fancy. And it was like, and I know that like, I don't know if the prince or the king still goes there, but he used to. It was like one of those. And the families would come in, 10 people in the family, the kids, everybody. I left at one o 'clock because I had an early flight the next day and I'm like, I can't believe how.

42:18Why is that? Why is it always so late? It just sounds like a bunch of acid reflux. Yeah. That was my schedule before, before having a family. You know, it was like normal to go to dinner at 10 with your friends, with family. But not, I mean, And schools in Spain start early, like here, like around 8.30 or 8. And you can have that schedule. Maybe sometimes in the weekend, but that's more for single people. I've never been to Spain and I want to go really bad. You've never been? No. Is that the country or the side of the world that doesn't get dark until like 10 or 11 at night or something like that?

43:01No, you got to go north. In the summer, we have light until 10. No way. In the summer, we do. But then further north you go, Sean. Beautiful. The lighter it stays later. I'm so sorry. Penelope, we're sorry. This is a little bit of a charity hire. No, no. Yeah, he wanted to get into radio. He wants to experience the light of Madrid in the summer. So, Penelope, now here you are, you're here in America and you're doing all this stuff for Ferrari, which is phenomenal. First of all, Michael Mann, of course, one of the all-time great directors. But you're here, you're in America, and you're doing all the stuff that goes with that.

43:45Yeah, this is what I love. The press tour, which includes talking to us, I imagine. But what is that like for you? Like, how do you sort of gear up for that with your life and everything that's going on with the kids, and you got to go like, all right, I got to go do all the junkets. Turn it on. I got to, yeah, I got to. Do you like that stuff or is it okay? As you know, it's part of it. And I just do like very short trips, like went to New York for one day for the Gotham Awards and then back home and then London one day and a half back home. Now we're here for a couple of days. I rather do it like this, you know, than putting together a long trip.

44:25Ideally, would you do one job a year or two jobs a year? Do you try to... That changed a lot. I used to do like four movies per year and travel nonstop. And now I do like one per year. And if they're not too long, I can do one in Madrid while the school is happening. I maybe would do that one and one in the summer so we can travel all together. And this is like the... I feel very privileged and very lucky to be able to do it that way. because I feel like all of those years working so hard have given me the opportunity to be able to choose what I want to do now and be a little bit like the owner more or less of my own schedule.

45:05Even if you know how things always change, if they tell you you're going to start in March, probably you're going to start a month later. But even like counting with that and knowing that that will always be the nature of our profession, feeling like I kind of own a big part of my time is such a blessing. It's such a blessing because like I told you before my priority is raising my children. And I feel so lucky that I can combine that with my work. Yeah, it's so cool to be able to shift that perspective from when you're younger and you're like you were saying you're trying to make a mark, you're trying to do as much stuff as you can.

45:46You want to work with directors, you want to work on different projects. and then you get older and you're like, yeah, that stuff's not as important to me anymore. I mean, it's a luxury, obviously, but... Yeah, it is. It is. I mean, I don't take it for granted. And I also still love so much, like preparing a character, the research process and being on the set and the creativity and how that makes me feel, like searching for answers. And I still feel like the little girl that was watching the Betamax. What was your first Hollywood film? What was your first big... It was Stephen Frears' movie called Hilo Country, and I was obsessed with him because of The Grifters and Dangerously Son.

46:29So that was also a phone call that made me so happy. Can I ask you a dorky actor question? Because you're such a great actor. You're very... You too. Thank you so much. No, no, you really are. there's I find myself when I watch you play a character I'm leaning in I'm trying to read your mind there's you're not you're not it's great you don't help the audience you're very internal and that's my favorite kind but I think sometimes that it would be hard for me to manage that kind of subtlety if I if with an accent I wonder if I would be is it challenge is it easier for you when you're playing a character that's speaking Spanish versus English because oftentimes the difference between a good performance and a bad performance will be in the way in which lines are said, in the meter.

47:25Like you can say I love you a million different ways and an accent can change what an intention sounds like. I love you. I love you. I love you. And oftentimes an accent is that. We're going to go a different way. The rhythm of something. Do you have to manage that at all? Do you even think about it? I think about it a lot because I feel very lucky that I'm able to do movies in four languages and a lot of different accents. For example, with the Spanish language, a lot of different accents. And I feel like sometimes I don't want to call it a disadvantage to have an accent because at the end of the day, for me in my career, it has given me more advantages than the opposite because it has opened so many doors to be able to play so many different nationalities.

48:15And I don't know that I could now get to play a character that has English as her first language. Maybe someday we could get to that. But would I change that by not being able to play an Italian or French or all the characters that I can play in English that can be from so many nationalities, but like I said, maybe English is not their first language. When I'm working in Spanish, of course, there's going to be like a freedom that you're not going to have when you are working in a different language. But it's not always that way because sometimes when I'm working with a different language or accent, I don't hear myself, I don't recognize myself.

49:05And that already gives me a space, distance between myself to create somebody new that actually is very helpful for me. So, I mean, I keep working. I'm always with a dialect coach in my life. Lately, I work a lot with Tim Monick, who is incredible. And I've had so many teachers for all different languages and accents or go to the place and spend time there. And you feel like you have as much control over your intention when you're reading a line, even though you might be working with an accent versus the kind of control you have when you're working in Spanish. You feel like it's equal enough? I feel like if I put a lot, a lot of time into it so that I get to a place where I don't have to be thinking about it, I will have the advantages of having that distance between myself and the way that character speaks and not recognizing myself when I speak.

50:09And I enjoy that very much. Yeah, that makes sense. But for example, I'm making a movie in the spring in English and I start to work now in January and it's going to be like every day, putting many hours into it so that I don't have to be thinking about it when I'm there. So you just can't. Yeah. So it becomes part of you. And that character would have an American accent or a Spanish accent? No. It would have a Spanish accent, but we want it to be always as clear as possible. And just so there's no gap there. So that it's much more immediate is what you're saying. Yeah, but the gap that is the accent or acting in another language sometimes helps so much to create that distance.

50:53Allows you to enter a different person. Yeah. Can I ask you, you won, I think it was 2008 maybe, when you won Academy Award for Vicky Cristina Barcelona, right? Was that 2008, something like that? I think it was 2008. Maybe 2009, something like that for Vicky Cristina Barcelona. When you won, because this is always like a sort of a trippy thing. It's kind of like you win the, you know, the great Academy Award. Did you feel that kind of, was it euphoric in the moment? Was it a letdown? Did it change anything or did you go, you know, what was that sort of feeling like? Was the moment as you imagined it?

51:34Yeah, yeah. Well, it was the first one of the night. So I was happy about that because my heart was going so fast. I don't know how I could have gone through hours of that, but it was incredible to be able to hug my mother there. I was sad my father wasn't there because they were not together as a couple, so they would take turns. And he came to some awards, he came to others, and all their family and friends were there. And I just, the thing is that I only remember like 30 % of it because the adrenaline was so high. And I remember like right after winning, calling my father and calling Pedro.

52:17And I remember... Pedro's like, oh, this girl will not leave me alone. Exactly. And I remember going after the ceremony, we went to In-N-Out. No way. Of course, with the gown. And then we went to Gaio Sirius House, who is a very good friend of mine. And I'm sure you've been in that party. I walked in and I looked to my left and in a sofa together, there was Jack Nicholson, Scorsese, Harvey Keitel, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino. And I was like, oh, can't handle that. And I went the other way. I was like, I got so nervous. that image was like oh i should have taken a picture of that image yeah all of them together guy can pack a house yeah that that ash i was going to ask you a bit ago but that's a perfect segue you know you said you lived here for 15 years but what are some of the and then but when you come visit what are the some of the some of the things you look forward to eating like in and out or seeing or experiencing like do you miss any anything that you get excited about here I have a group of friends that we get together and we play wolves.

53:31Wolves and villagers. You know the game, right? Of course, of course. And I'm sure you know some of the players. And oh my God. And you know, everyone ends up like so angry with each other for weeks. Because you just have to lie and betray other people in this game. Yeah, right. And it's a really good game for actors. and, you know, it's one of the things that I try to do when I come back to LA, like get together with the wolf players that I have here. And we play a lot in Spain also. You can play it on Zoom too. Have you ever played it on Zoom? No, no. Yeah, you can play it on Zoom. Interesting.

54:08Yeah, you can do it on, I think over COVID, there was a lot of mafia on Zoom. Interesting. Really? I have a team of players in Madrid, like many friends that are obsessed with the game like I am, and then other team of players here. There's a show based on it, Penelope, called Traitors. And it's based on that. From the UK. A UK version, an American version, an Australian version. And now a friend of mine did a Spanish version of the show. Oh, really? Yeah. Sergio Perez Menceta. It's interesting. What's something that people don't know that you do, like a sort of guilty pleasure, something that you like, do you like watch bad reality TV?

54:47I feel like Jason, I'm getting into your territory with this question. We love this question. We love this question. What do you do? Are you secretly a golfer? Do you play tennis? Do you have some obsession? I don't know. You like to doodle? Well, I love a good massage, I have to say. Oh, my God. I would have a massage every day. You do? I would like to every single day. Do you get a massage once a week? No, but I don't know. Maybe once a month, once a day. But I love it. I hurt my back in the shower actually the other day. How are you doing? Yeah, just like trying to wash my feet, just reaching down and out it goes.

55:30So I got a massage last night. It was so deep and so painful. I hurt more today than I did yesterday. Yeah, for sure. But it's all different. It's all, I'm just sore from, so sometimes it can be a little too hard. Yes, Penelope? I don't know. It's one of my, I don't know, what can you call it? It's not a hobby. What can you call it? It's a passion. It's a treat. Yeah, I love it. It's a treat. And I love knitting. Oh, you do? Oh, you do. Yeah, starting to do that with my daughter because my grandmother taught me how to do that and sewing. And I love cooking because with my job, it's not that I can cook every day, but it's something that I really like.

56:10And I don't have a lot of, actually, like a lot of social life and I don't really go out. I don't drink. You know, I have strange hobbies also. Or like. I don't know why I always end up talking about this in interviews, but I love reading about medicine. I do too. Why are you a hypochondriac? Yes. I'm obsessed. There are many in the world. I'm obsessed. That's true. You do? Yes. I love when I find somebody that can discuss How did it happen? Am I going to get it? I'm like, oh, best friend. Sean is on a VIP program. This is not a joke. It's Cedars because he's so obsessed with his own, right? I'm not.

56:54He has his own entrance. Yeah. Yeah. You and I, best friends. Yes. I mean, I'm obsessed. But do you both worry about mortality? Do you feel like... It's not about mortality. It's about suffering. Yes. It's not about mortality. It's about suffering. I don't want to catch it. Tell me how did you get it. How do I avoid it? You know, all that. Yes, yes, yes. Were you both very nervous about COVID when COVID was around? Were you both nervous about that? I was more nervous for other people, for people that were older or for children. Obviously, we didn't know what was going to happen. And I was worried for my mom.

57:33Did everybody get COVID? I did. I did get COVID. Sean, did you get it? You still haven't had it, right, Will? I've never had it, no. Oh, my God. I know. But Penelope, I'm more worried about like if my stomach hurts or like my eye hurts, I'm like, oh my God, I have cancer, I'm going to die or like whatever. I go from zero to 100 and then I have to read all about it. But why should we be scared? You've got an extra eye, don't you? The thing is that you have to know where to read it. And when you do this, you end up knowing where to go. It's not like, doesn't it happen to you like if you go to the doctor with the right questions and they tell you, you're not one of those that is reading everything on internet.

58:13And it's like, well, depends. If you go to the right places, you actually can come here with the right questions. It doesn't mean you go to the doctor with the answers, but you go with the right questions. And sometimes they don't like that. That's right. My doctor is like, yeah, look it up online. He always says that. Does he really? Sounds pretty lazy. Or take a picture and text it to me. That's what he says. I do that well listen Penelope we have taken up way too much of your time it's such an honor having you here to join us I love this you said earlier to me that I need to experience the light of Madrid and I think I just did I had so much fun talking to you right I feel it's too short you shined your light on us it is too short I had so much fun in this conversation we'll continue it in Madrid next time we're down to Madrid we're gonna look you up we're gonna have an 11pm dinner on a Sunday night.

59:09You're going to cook for us. Yes, I will if you want. Yes. I would love that. We'll do it. Well, listen, continued success, really, and congratulations and everything. Enjoy your trip. Your holidays, get back to the family. And I can't wait for Ferrari. Yeah, we can't wait. We're looking forward to that. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, we're such fans. You've been really kind. Thank you so much. Thank you, Penelope. Thank you. Bye. Bye-bye. Fuck, I'm fucking, look at this. Oh, look at that. You were so, Penelope was so great, you're sweating. I know. That was, I mean, gosh, right? Yeah. Penelope Cruz.

59:43I didn't know what to do. I'm such a fan. I've never met her or anything. And I didn't know what to expect. I know, me neither. And now I'm like a bigger fan. Like she's really fun and easy. I was hoping that she was going to be as charming and as wonderful as she seems to be, right? Don't you ever play that game where you watch people on talk shows and stuff like that and you're just a fan of theirs? And you feel like what she was saying about Pedro Almodovar. I think that's how you say his last name. Like, she could just tell, boy, if we ever met, we'd really get along. I played that sometimes.

1:00:15I looked at people, I was like, you know what, I bet she'd be awesome. I think a lot of people do think that sometimes in the general public and they're like psychotic a little bit, but she's not because she's actually legitimately great. Or you were getting a psycho vibe when you'd watch her. Not from her. I'm saying that people, you know, there are people who watch movies and go like, I would be best friends with Jason Bateman. I will go and wait for him. I will wait for him and then we will be, you know what I mean? But Sean, you kind of said it like it's a little different when it's her. You know, she shows up and you're like, yeah, okay, yeah, feel free to hang out.

1:00:47I want to see that movie. I want to see that movie Ferrari. I know, I want to see Ferrari so bad. I know, me too. I love. I like Adam, I like her, I like Michael Mann. You like cars? And I do love the cars, you know? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'd ever be able to pull off owning one, but I do. A Ferrari? No, you got to have a certain, you kind of got to have a certain thing to be able to own a Ferrari. Yeah. Hey, Will, you ever owned a Ferrari? Funnily enough, I have, but the point is an old one. An old one, not like one of these. No, not like one of these douchebags who drives around, you know, L.A.

1:01:20in one of those, you know. Sure. Yeah. I've never been in one. I've only seen them drive by. Oh, by! Shawn, he snuck it right through. Shawn's on a deadline. Smart. Yes.

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