"RE-RELEASE: Ricky Gervais"

29:58And were you all in on that and then it didn't work out? Or were you pursuing that and acting at the same time or whatever made you famous? And then you had to be because it didn't work out. Yeah, all in, but in retrospect, did it all wrong. I was in a band. Because I love those songs, by the way. Thank you. It was very fast. It came and went very, very quickly. And I think you only know about it now because I'm famous for something else. And those pictures and videos pop up on Jimmy Fallon. So like anyone else in every generation, I think it was. Yeah, I found it fascinating because I was pursuing the same thing.

30:35And I also then went into comedy. Well, OK, so it started at college and we did a demo tape and we got signed. and we did two singles and then we were dropped. And it was like, it started and finished within a year. And that was it. Oh, wow. You know, I think even if it had been a success then, in 1984, whatever it was, it would still have been over quickly. But there are some bands that were good back then that are still around. And would you and Rick Astley have done a duet? Do you think you and Rick would have wham or? It would have certainly been, you know, we started with the sort of the hair and makeup and synth pop.

31:10But this is the mistake I made. The mistake I made was I wanted to be a pop star and I should have wanted to be a musician. And when I started doing this, I realised that I consciously and militantly called myself a writer-director. So people didn't think that I just wanted to be on telly because I didn't. And I came to it very wary. I came to this very, very wary. Not because of the music thing, but because of, I think, the press in England. and I never revered fame. I've never asked for an autograph. I've never been impressed by seeing a famous... And I thought that of myself. I thought the people I admire, I admire because they've done something absolutely brilliant.

31:53But my heroes are like scientists and things like that. And Andrew Ridgely. Yeah, exactly. So I feared fame. I didn't want to, I didn't sign that deal with the devil, make me famous and you can go through my bins. In fact, I probably feared it too much. I was probably too many. But now I'm sort of chilled and it's fine, you know. But don't you think people that have fame wanted it? To a certain degree, yeah. But the other thing is, it's a bit ambiguous when you're an actor, isn't it? Because I think you're allowed to really want to be an actor because it's fun and it's great and it's interesting and it's better than most jobs.

32:35without saying, I want to be famous. I think it could be, because if you're a successful actor, you're probably a famous actor. Right. Thank you. And certainly there was easier routes to being an actor than actually writing and directing a sitcom for three years. There's easier routes. In fact, it annoyed me once when The Office broke and it seemed like I was just famous overnight without all the work. Someone on the red carpet said to me, what advice would you give anyone else who wants to be famous like you? and I said, go out and kill a prostitute. And they looked at me like I was mental. It just really annoyed me.

33:16Like that. Like there's such easier ways to be famous than actually writing a sitcom from scratch. Right, right. You know what I mean? Do offers come to you when you kind of flirt with that or do you only create your own things and only want to create your own things? I think the offers have dried up because it's been no for like 10 years that I've usually been busy. And you start off and you're flattered. I remember, I think the second episode of The Office had gone out in like 2001. And my agent got a call from a studio making this movie and they sent me the script. And I said, what part am I?

33:53And they said, the lead. And I said, it says here he's 26. And I was 39 at the time, I was sort of 40. And they went, we can change that. And I thought, okay. And I said, I think you need, I said, who's going to go and see this? No one knows me. And they went quiet. And I went, you need John Cusack for this. And they sort of went, okay, well, thanks for the call. And in my head, I was oozing integrity. And they were going, what a guy. But actually, they probably went, what a fucking idiot. Who do you think he is turning down the lead movie? He's not going to get away. That's interesting. And so it was no, because I was busy.

34:28it was no all the way the first one that i said yes to because i read it the first one i read actually um jane would read them and say no no no or you might and the first one i did that i i thought if i don't do this i'll never do one was ghost town um and it just i was reading it and i was laughing i thought this is me yeah i loved it this is me this is written for me and so i i did it and i loved it but um it still it still doesn't feel like mine the things i've done loads of things i've popped up in things i've done the golden globes i've done this and that but if i say what have you done i'd i'd list you know three or four sitcoms a couple of movies and my stand-up that's what i'd say was mine right right do you know what i mean is jane uh your filter of pretty much like is she your go-to barometer of of everything yeah now i don't even i say no to everything because i'm sort of busy but when i'm working stuff out yeah i uh i run things by if I go for a run and I've got an idea for a routine I come back and I say what do you think of this and she says please don't do that and I know it's I know it's good I love how many times we've been fucking around or having dinner or whatever and how many times Jane has said you guys have to keep your voice down shut the window I have one more question about the office so it was an incredible success on its own.

35:56And then when it got brought here to America, another incredible success in Feathering Your Cap with that. Was it comfortable or uncomfortable to watch it take its, I don't know, necessary or unnecessary, slight comedic tone shift to an American pacing and whatnot? You've got to think that it's not your baby. You think that, you know... Ricky, just including that, because I'm sort of going off what Jason's saying. It was such a huge shift. When you see, it changed the way, certainly in this country, people started making comedies. For sure, there was such a direct effect. I remember watching somebody on a very famous, who created a very famous, successful sitcom here saying, you know, and then we decided in the pilot, why not have the characters talk to the camera?

36:42And I thought, shut up. Well, the thing is, I didn't invent the genre. In fact, my biggest influence, I think, writing it, there was someone else's work, was Spinal Tap, which is a fake documentary. That's just, I mean, no one owns fake documentary. I suppose what was different, slightly different about it was that it was, we left the boring bits in. Like David Brent made bad jokes and no one laughed. I wanted that, I want to explore that gap, that social, because that's the worst thing for me. I don't get embarrassed, but I get embarrassed for other people. if we're in a group and someone makes a bad joke and no one laughs i just want to go back in time and go right do it like this let's do this again and ricky what you guys did so well on the show and i remember this kind of reminds me of when when mitch herwitz was putting together the pilot of arrested what you've done so well is anyone listening arrested is short for arrested development it's a tv show he just he leaves off the last word it's just there's we haven't got there's limited time if we i worked out if we said arrested development every time we it'd be three months of our life great now we got to go cut that out but you by the way ricky has called me on that like out loud in a restaurant arrested development so but but you what you did such a great job is and when you put that show together you recognized you'd have david brent do the worst joke or do something super embarrassing and then And you always made sure to anchor that by looking at the reactions of the people around him.

38:15You whip hand or whatever. And that's what happened. I remember with Arrested, hang on, development. But Mitch said that when he's putting the pilot together of Arrested Development that he had doing, he was like, it's not working. And he realized that he needed to have all these crazy characters do stuff. And he needed to see Jason's reaction to it because that put it in the context. Well, that to me is that to me is the comedy. Someone doing something weird is one part of it, but it's how does it fall? What's the fallout of it? That's what's always interesting to me. And again, I learned that from Laurel and Hardy.

38:51So Stan doing something stupid was funny, but it affecting Ollie was the joke for me. That's what comedy, some comedy didn't have before that. There was no fallout. No one got hurt in the wake of someone doing something ridiculous. Like people would be acting and they'd be saying, but they'd be acting like he'd said someone, normal right and so you have to react to that people yeah there's nothing weird about martians on mars you put a martian on earth that's that's yeah that's interesting well that's another good very good point because that's why um again david brent was the boss yeah um and so he shouldn't have been acting like that he should have been the grown-up but he was acting like the child so again he was the big thing there was you know men as boys and women as adults which again i think is reflected but again laurel and hardy did that the laurel and hardy they were children and their wives had to catch them doing naughty things who was it said steal from the best and i certainly have in um you know laurel and hardy and and uh chris guest and those guys so ricky what what do you because i'm like this is going to be over and then he'll never talk to you again and we're going to go right after and in my mind you go off and you start writing and creating and doing all of these things but what is the reality like what is your days consistent what do you what do you do like what will you do tonight i'll uh i'll go and watch um arrest arrest a scandi noir serial killer or spy thriller on netflix or amazon prime or walter presents or bbc4 i want european or middle eastern or south american drama i've just found i've just found now that with all these subscription, I can find the best dramas in the world.

40:35Why don't you be in one? Because I can't speak any languages. And also... What about English? I see my favourite thing, right? This Scandi drama, it's like series three, and suddenly an Englishman or an American pops up and I go, oh, fucking hell. They just ruin it. Yeah. They just fucking ruin it. Have you watched L 'Engrenage, otherwise known as Spiral, that French cop show? It might be one of the best programs ever. Me too. It's amazing. Another one as well. There's only one thing that might even be better than that, and that's The Bureau. Have you seen it? The Bureau. Of course. It's incredible.

41:10It's incredible. It's incredible. There's a great Belgian show as well called The Break. Have you seen about this? Amazing. Have you seen, oh, The Twelve, another Belgian thing, The Twelfth. The Twelfth. Oh my God. Hey, oh my God. Wait, have you guys seen Quincy? Yeah, and what about Chicago Fire, guys? These guys, Jason spends all his time trying to figure out how IPA is made, so he doesn't have time to watch. Well, that's, so, okay, to quickly answer, I get up, I have a coffee, breakfast, we go for a long walk, which is habit now. We get that where we used to do that when we were allowed to go out one hour in lockdown.

41:48With dogs, cats? I know you have pickle. You don't walk a cat, you stupid ass. Well, our cat died at the beginning of lockdown. We just got a new one. Oh, you see what you've done, Sean? Way to go, Sean. Fucking dick. Go on, sorry. So you're walking the cats. No, we go for a walk. I go for a walk, an hour's walk. I scruffle dogs. Ricky, why don't you and Jane have a dog? Because I know you love dogs. But why are you guys more, are you consider yourself cat people? Or why don't you have a dog? No, I absolutely love dogs. I love all animals. I think to me, all animals are unconditionally perfect and beautiful.

42:23I agree. The only animal that I think you can ethically keep is a pet, a domesticated animal. But I love all animals. But the reason I don't have a dog is we travel too much. And a cat, you can have a cat's ear. It doesn't care, okay? A dog, I can't stand the dog. The dog doesn't understand. They have an emotional intelligence beyond some people. I can't bear that I have to travel so often with a dog. So wait, then what happens with the cat? The cat just stays home. You leave out a big, big bowl of milk and come back? No, the other people look after it, don't we, you fool? like the Flintstones yeah yeah so your guess is that cats are so emotionally stable and secure that you can go travel around doing all your shows for a couple of weeks and they're good but a dog your guess is that they're just emotional basket cases they need you there a little bit more often than once every couple of weeks well it's it's it's it's based on them it's based on knowledge no science because because of all the interviews they've done with the cats and the dogs yeah so is jane is jane a dog or a cat jane's a woman oh no i'm kidding is she like the independent like you can go away and i don't i don't need to see you or is she a dog like where she's like i i'm gonna miss you i need you back oh i see oh um uh oh i see yeah i was trying to elevate jane's got some sexy indifference like a cat right it's like she She doesn't really need you.

43:53She's all fine by herself, you know, right? No, Jane, Jane, Jane. She needs you. I'd like to think Jane needs me. Wait, wait, wait. Can you get through that one more time without laughing? That would be great. We're still rolling. She needs you and then don't laugh. She does need you. And you could bring the dog, you know, because you're only gone a couple, a night here, a night there, because you've got to go and do these arenas. And God bless you. and I feel the same way. I need to do arenas too. So let me ask you this. So what do you think? You've been at home. You've been working on. I know you're working on Series 3.

44:33I'm working on my body now. That's why you can't see my hands. Oh, he's doing leg lifts. He's doing leg lifts under the table. But you've written Series 3 of Afterlife. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I did that quite quickly. Yeah. And series three is season three. Season three, yeah. Sorry, we're European. And that's ready before sort of workshopping and all that. And I've basically cast it in my head and that's ready to go. We're filming in April. So I feel like I've got to fill the gap. I can't do gigs at the moment. Again, that's ready to go. In fact, all my gigs this year have been postponed until next year.

45:12So I do that after I film. So that's ready to go. What about the jokes in that that might be topical that are not going to work next year? Are you just kind of update those? Well, luckily, when you're still doing stuff about, you know, Hitler and famine, AIDS, it's pretty fucking timeless. Evergreens, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for you. Luckily, we'll always have killer diseases and fascism. Yeah. So it keeps us going. How do you think that looks? So you're ready to go back on the road. You've been working on your stand-up sort of nonstop and refining it. I will have to change it slightly.

45:49I think depending on what happens, because I think if a vaccine comes in, I think people will want to forget it. And so it wouldn't be timeless. And if I was doing it now, I'd start with it. In fact, I did a couple of little warm-ups when we were doing social distance gigs. And I started off going, it's great to be gigging. I haven't gigged this year. The last normal time was Christmas, wasn't it? That was the last time with friends and family. And we didn't have a traditional Christmas. You've got to move with the time. We might be cultural. We had bats. We had a load of bats. Oh, you ate bats.

46:22So I started off and got it. Oh, shit. We should talk.

46:30Ricky, who makes you laugh? I know you get asked this a lot. It is like one of those standard questions, but fuck it. Who makes you laugh? Well, you do. You know that. Well done, Will. Present company excluded. Present company. We got what we wanted. Print. Print. Oh, you have to categorize it. You have to categorize it. I mean, who makes me laugh? Are there people who the way that they... Larry David. Yeah. I think Larry David is underrated. I know he did the biggest sitcom of our generation, but I think Curb Enthusiasm, 10 series of Curb Enthusiasm, and the quality just hasn't changed. And he's remarkable, and he's brave, and he's funny and he's a great performer.

47:13He's fearless. You guys are very similar that way. Yeah, self-effacing too. Yeah, I think he's the all-round comedic creator of the past 25 years. And Chris Guest, it sounds like Chris Guest you like a lot too, yeah? Chris Guest, probably the biggest single influence on me is both his style, a friend and a mentor because I knew no one in the industry. and when the office went out, Chris Guest called me. He said his wife had seen it and said, you've got to watch this and he loved it. And I could see why. He must have seen his influence in it. But he called me up and just said, I don't want to say it.

47:51And I was blown away, of course. And then we became friends. And then I'd call him when I wanted advice. I remember an early film I did, they wanted to do one of those screenings where 40 people give you notes. And I said, I don't want to do it. And he said, why would you? He said, if you're letting them edit it, next time, why don't you write it with them? And I just thought that was such a lovely, wow. And then he told me a story that the director of Rain Man did one of those things. And his favourite comment was, I enjoyed the film, but I was disappointed that the little guy didn't snap out of it by the end.

48:27And so he'd given me those little nuggets to fear. Yeah, Sophia, TV by committee. And he's just lovely and he's still funny. I remember he asked me once, he said, we'd just be mucking around like, you know, idiots, like kids. And he said, if we're suddenly not funny and no one finds us funny, how will we know? And I said, who cares? Yeah. Who cares? We're laughing. Yeah, for sure. Now, Ricky, I have a semi-serious question here. I don't want you to cry when you answer it. But with all of the information we've heard about how you started and what you thought you were going to be and the music and whatnot, you're in your mid-50s.

49:13Have you exceeded your expectations? I'm fucking out. Of course I'm fucking out. Well, but I mean, I'm assuming there is a higher place. We always sort of reset our goals as we start to approach them, right? Yeah. Where are you at right now? Are you satisfied and yet still want more? Or have you hit, ah, I'm past where I ever wanted to be and I could get happy with retirement even and know that I've done it? Yeah, yeah. Before you answer that, Ricky, just know how great it is to hear how Bateman's brain works. Go ahead.

49:48I think you hone it and hone it. You keep folding the samurai. You keep honing it and what you like. And what I like is no interference and only doing things I absolutely love. So I want to do less and less and just more of the thing that I absolutely love. And that's come down to, I suppose, if I'm doing sitcom, it's just doing the... No compromise. With no compromise, yeah. And stand-up is already there, really. There's already no compromise with stand-up. I think stand-up is like just about the purest art form outside the novel where what you think is what you can say and it's what they hear.

50:29And that's pure. Because even with something like Afterlife, you know, I get final edit. I do it all. But there's still 60 people involved. You still have to go. They have to give it to someone. And they still have to go, we put it out on this date. Whereas stand-up, I say, I want to do this venue on this date. Sell the ticket. The tickets are taught. I go up. I'm doing this. This is it. Good night. And I did. and every single step of the way is absolutely as I wanted it. So it's more and more, how do I get to that? And I've always known that the most important thing is being sort of happy, really.

51:02I've always tried to cut out the middleman, just wanted to be... I'll show you a story that sums it up. I think we're... It must have been like 1971. I was like 10 in school. And there was a big thing in the early 70s where a lot of unskilled or semi-skilled workers were getting money to go on oil rigs. So you had carpenters that, they were suddenly going to oil rigs and where they were earning like 50 quid a week, they were earning like, you know, 500 quid a day on these oil rigs. And it was a big thing. It was a big thing in the paper. And I remember the teacher doing a thing to the class saying, okay, kids, what would you do with the money if you could earn 500 pounds a day?

51:41And it went round and the kids were saying, I'd buy my mum a house, I'd buy a car, I'd buy a horse. And it came to me and I said, I'd work one day a week. And I remember thinking, that would be amazing because I could have the other six days. Yeah. I'm with you, man. I really admire, first of all, you know, you know I'm a huge fan of your stand-up. And I think it's so, I watch it in awe because I think it's so scary to, you know, it just seems like the scariest, like you say, it is so right. It's just you and your relationship with the audience and everything that's coming out. But it's not scary.

52:21It's the thing that you do it. I think driving a car is scary because I can't do it. But when you realise that you've got that safety net for the first, you go out there and you try stuff out. And if it's not working, you don't put the tickets on sale. I've done 50 gigs before I sell out a real gig. And I know what it's going to be like. It's going to be the same as the, you know. I mean, the scary thing is, you know, recently, the scary thing is, you know, this council thing, being cancelled if you say the wrong thing and suddenly, you know, Netflix can take you off their platform or, you know.

52:53So that's the scary thing. How do you vet that then? How do you really go through your stuff and who's going to be the arbiter? Well, you can't. You can't because you don't know. You could be the most woke politically correct stand-up in the world at the moment, but you don't know what it's going to be like in 10 years' time. You can get cancelled for things you said 10 years ago because you don't know what it's going to be like in 10 years' time. And it also seems like the people that try to, you specifically, because I remember the Golden Globes were, all of them, they're so fucking funny. But you were so great.

53:25But I remember the same people, it seems, that try to cancel you are also your fans, are also the people that hire you and also the people that still want to work with you. The thing is about this, I think the misunderstanding about cancer culture is some people think that you should be able to say anything you want without consequences, and that's not true because we're members of society and people are allowed to criticise you. They're allowed to not buy your things. They're allowed to burn your DVDs and they're allowed to turn the telly off. What they're not allowed to do is to bully other people into not going to see you.

53:57Or there's some people that are doctors, who are great doctors. They're getting fired from a hospital because of a bad joke they made on Twitter. And I go, well, that's not relevant to what they do. So I don't think what's being cancelled. It's having no platform, isn't it? And what can they do to me? Because I've got this now. Who's going to cancel me? Twitter? YouTube? If I have to, I'll go to Hyde Park and stand up on a bench and shout shit. I got in a lot of shit. They almost cancelled me because I killed a hobo. And I thought that's nothing to do with my job. No. That's something that I did on a weekend.

54:38Well, that's the other thing as well. If you don't break the law, people just cannot buy your material. Whereas some people get cancelled because they've actually broken the law. I talk about this in my new stand-up about what is being cancelled. I suppose that's a scary thing because it's a real consequence. No one looks at the argument anymore. They look at who's saying it and they make their decision. There's no nuance. Some of it's down to politics, some of it's down to social media because it's too fast. it's way too fast as i say 20 years ago if you were offended by someone on television you got a pen on paper you went dear bbc oh fuck i can't be bothered now you fire off a tweet and that tweet goes on the fucking news because someone else argued with it so it's it's this road rage it's things happening too fast that you can't take back and um people dig in and people want to be heard people want to feel that they had an effect it's why people heckle a comedian they want to feel they were there i was here and so now people are heard and the microphone is the same volume everybody has equal access to it yes an idiot stands next to a genius on twitter and it looks the same it's the same font and exactly yeah and that's what's so dangerous and the genius has earned it and the idiot has it and yet people don't they don't make that distinction at all anymore well exactly and it comes back to what we said at the beginning just because you're offended it doesn't mean you're right and in recent years we've had this thing where people would say uh my opinion is worth as much as the next person's.

56:07And that's true. But recently we had, my opinion is worth as much as your fact. And that's simply not true. Now people are offended by facts. People now know that when I do happy birthday, earth 4.6 billion years old, I'm having a go at fundamentalists. And they know, they go, why are you? Because they take facts personally. People take facts personally. I could talk to you about all that stuff for like nine hours straight. I loved that. I loved everything. Oh, man, I bet he's looking forward to that. And I mean straight. No interruptions, no sleep. Ricky, what was that joke that you talked about?

56:46You said that sort of that idea of people being offended or online or on social media was the equivalent of running down to the town square. Oh, when people, yeah, I do it in humanity when there's that woman arguing with me, getting offended by a tweet. Like, I was tweeting them. Like, I'm just tweeting. I don't know who's following me. That's like going into a town square and seeing a message that says guitar lessons. And you go, I don't fucking want guitar lessons. So if people, it wasn't to you. People jump in the way of a bullet and say, why are you shouting at me? I love that. And people have done that on purpose.

57:27They've tried to give ideas a human rights. that's why so if you criticize christianity people say why are you criticizing christians and i go i'm not i'm criticizing the ideal i'm you know i'm discussing an idea it's like me getting offended where someone hates maths and it's not mine maths isn't mine it's a it's a concept it's an idea so um but anyway um this is for our nine hour podcast oh man that's gonna be a real hit. I'll tell you what. Part two through twelve. When are you coming to Los Angeles? Or when can... Will always gets to see you, always gets to hang out. I want to... I won't bring Sean.

58:10I see... I do actually see four people when I'm in Atlanta, don't I? I can be small, have a four and a half. Will and Mitch, we always invite you, but you're always having a body wax or something. Hurry out here, please, or I'll come see you there. Don't make like you don't know me when I I don't know. You'll never come to England. I want to go, what did you call it? Leafy? Where do you live? Will's been here. Will calls me up and goes, I'm around the corner. I go, what? I know, it's true. He's here all the time, back and forth, between Samarit's and... Yeah, hopping off yachts and shit. I never go to Samarit's.

58:44Only Gustav. So, listen, I didn't even say it right. No, you didn't. Well, listen, yeah, I do miss hanging out, and I do miss going over there. I love spending time in the UK, and I love spending time with you. All right. Goodbye. We love you. Goodbye, Ricky. We love you. Thank you so much, man. Guys, but remember, well, you tell the other guys, if anyone asks, is he in the SAS? No, he's just a comedian. Right. Okay. Got it. Great. Got it. Okay. Wait, play us off real quick with something with that. Grab that guitar. Play us off with something. Just a quick little, just a single chord. Oh, we didn't have to twist those arms.

59:20Here we go. Here we go.

59:26Pretty girl on the hood of a Cadillac, yeah She's broken down on Freeway 9 I take a look and get her engine started Leave her purring and her roll on by, bye-bye Free love on the free love freeway The love is free, the freeway's long I got some hot love on the hot love highway ain't going home cause my baby's gone she's gone Ricky Gervais everybody wow that was awesome incredible Ricky Gervais thank you Ricky you're beautiful mate Ricky you're gorgeous hey listen it's getting late you're gonna have to get those prop awards back to the prop house okay buddy whoa look at that IPA dead love you Ricky bye bye pal thanks buddy Bye, bye, bye.

1:00:21Thank you. Bye, bye, bye. It's great fun. Oh, what a man. How great was that? Well, I love that you guys knew him. I've never met him. And I was serious about the influence he had over me, over the show, over... I just, I think he's it. Have you guys ever seen him debate religion with Stephen Colbert? No, I would... I mean, I've seen him debate religion with lots of people. He does it online. He does it in person. Yeah, it's really interesting. Wait, does Colbert, Colbert is Catholic. And Ricky's saying. He's an atheist, yeah. Really? Yeah, it's really fascinating. He's incredible. Anyway, I'm a huge fan of his.

1:00:58I think he is, has a brilliant mind. He's an incredible guy. He's so, so funny. And he's such a sweet, which is funny because like Jason, you were saying, you know, some of his characters, he can be very confident. Even though he can be self-evasing, he can also be very confident. But he, and he is confident. He's just a smart guy. He's a very level-headed and sweet, sweet guy and super smart, which is why it was good to have him on our show because he was able to help us. Yeah, I love that thing at the beginning where he's like, wow, are you guys just idiots? Yeah. It's called SmartLess. We go ahead and give you a big hint right at the top.

1:01:34Yeah, I mean, the bar is low and it's advertised, you know? I want to meet Jane. I want to hang out. I have that. Have you not met? I've met her, but I want to hang out with her. I'm fascinated to see what... We'll include you guys. I'll include you in the dinner. Yes, please. I would love that. One of these times, yeah. The one thing he didn't say, though, as he was signing off was... Bye!

1:02:02Smart. Nice.

1:02:08Smart. Nice. Thank you.