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SmartLess Podcast Episode Summary: "Sarah Paulson"
Episode Overview In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome the talented actress Sarah Paulson. The conversation meanders through various topics, including personal anecdotes, fears, and insights into the acting world, all while maintaining a light-hearted and humorous tone.
Key Themes and Discussions
Jason Bateman's Early Morning Shoot
- Jason discusses his upcoming work schedule, highlighting the challenges of shooting at a fish market during early morning hours.
- Key Insight: The reality of waking up at odd hours for work and how one's attitude towards such hours can change over time.
Discussion on Parenting and Technology
- The hosts share concerns over the impact of smartphones on children, referencing Jonathan Haidt's book, "Anxious Generation," which discusses rising rates of anxiety and depression among youth.
- Key Takeaway: The conversation emphasizes the need for awareness and communication regarding technology's effects on mental health.
Sarah Paulson Introduction
- Sarah joins the discussion, revealing her fear of flying and quirky habits, such as wanting to meet the pilot before takeoff.
- Fun Fact: Sarah has a Starburst tattoo and is known for her transformative acting roles, particularly in projects by Ryan Murphy.
Theater Insights
- Sarah discusses her current play, "Appropriate," noting its themes and her character's emotional monologue about family dynamics.
- The hosts explore the nuances of audience interactions post-show, particularly the expectations for cast members to connect with audience members who know them.
Fear of Flying
- The conversation quickly shifts back to Sarah's fear of flying, comparing it to the need for communication from pilots during turbulence as a way to ease anxiety.
- Key Point: The importance of communication in alleviating fears and building relationships, particularly in high-stress situations like flying.
Personal Stories and Humor
- Sarah shares anecdotes about her life, including humorous interactions with her mother and stories from her career.
- The hosts engage in playful banter about their personal fears, such as clowns and bees, further deepening the conversation's comedic nature.
Career Reflections
- The hosts discuss Sarah's extensive career, including her work in "American Horror Story" and "Game Change."
- Key Insight: Sarah expresses a reluctance to watch her performances, fearing that critical self-reflection may spoil her experience of the work.
Closing Thoughts
- The episode wraps up with the hosts reflecting on the joy of having Sarah on the show and her impact on the theater community.
- They touch on the significance of maintaining a light-hearted approach to serious topics, leaving listeners with a sense of warmth and connection.
Key Quotes
- "It's all about communication – just like a good pilot, you need to let people know what the situation is." – Sarah Paulson
- "You could even add a ‘JK’ to make it less pompous." – Jason Bateman, humorously addressing Sarah's tattoo quote.
Conclusion This episode of SmartLess encapsulates the essence of thoughtful dialogue mixed with humor, showcasing the depth of Sarah Paulson's character both as an actress and a person. The discussions ranged from serious societal issues to light-hearted personal stories, making it an engaging listen for audiences.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28Well, what do I say? to smart lights smart i have a 1 30 uh pickup and a uh two o 'clock crew call and 2 30 shoot time wow so jason's describing his first day of work which is tomorrow at a fish market at two in the morning he has to shoot and in a real fish market that's smelly and stinky and yeah the hours of operation is two to six a.m so that's when we have to be there and um you know uh there was a time in my life when i enjoyed those hours of the day sure but um i i don't anymore so uh my first day is going to be, I'm going to try to be warm. I'm going to try to be welcoming. It's going to be rough.
1:31That's two in the mornings rough. Yeah. I don't know. I guess I'm going to go to sleep at six or something, try to sleep for a little bit. Or should I just stay up? Should I just go get a big fat bag of white and stay up all night, Will? Well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's pump the brakes on that. Should I just start counting days again? No, let's just pump the brakes on that. Okay. I said to Jay, he was thinking of opening the first day gifts or whatever, you know start gifts and i met last night i was with will jason and i said to amanda i said the cookie thing there's like a new place in new york that makes pie cookies you believe sean knows about that and they know they make uh they also make croissants stuffed with cookie dough it's amazing christ yeah and stuffed with cookie dough that's right yeah and and what do you think i said to that pitch as start gifts?
2:22Do you think it was a no or do you think it was a yes? Well, I'm just trying to imagine your tone. I bet it wasn't considered friendly. No. It was very judgy. Yeah, it shut me down immediately. We, um, Sean and I were talking on the weekend. We saw each other last night, JB. Yeah, that's what Sean just said. Yeah, that's Jason. And we were with your wife, and I spent a lot of time with your wife last night. Well, a lot of time. We started talking about, I've been freaked out this weekend. And Sean, I mentioned this to you. We started talking about it because you read, I sent you the article, J.B., I sent you the article about kids with smartphones.
3:02Yes. Yes. And it's been freaking me out. And that guy, Jonathan Haid, wrote that book, Anxious Generation. Yes, this is crazy. And it's kind of, I spent the weekend, like, talking to my kids about it. And, you know, what this smartphone has done to this young generation. And, like, the super increased rates of depression. Anxiety. Anxiety. Even, sadly, suicide, of course. And it's like, it's really bummed me out. And I've just been like. What would the boys say about it? Well, I, you know what is funny? Did you talk to them about it? I did. I talked to them a little bit about it. and I said, you know, what you got to remember is that these, some of these companies are trying to, there are people out there who knew that this stuff would be addictive to you guys and they fed it to you.
3:49Like big tobacco. In a way, in a similar way. And I was like, how does that make you feel? Like, do you feel angry? And they were like, yeah, I feel kind of pissed off because I feel duped. Look, we're all guilty of it. We were talking last night. Like how many times you're talking to somebody and you've got your phone and you go, hang on, sorry, what? Like your attention is divided. And so I do it as an adult. And imagine what that does. If you're a teen, it's even harder. And this is a moment where you're establishing your neural pathways. And I said to Sean, I go, the richest man, my 13-year-old has the same phone as the richest man in the world.
4:31That's crazy. Yeah, they're all the same phones. I don't let, I'm nervous about my kids like going out or walking around the corner or whatever. And yet I'll let them get on their phone and go to the far deep reaches of the internet. I don't know. I got to change. Anyway, that's been kind of dominating my thinking. Something to do, something to figure out. Something to figure out. How are they, are they able to manage boredom? Like, do they have coping skills for like riding in an elevator and not doing anything except staring at the wall or sitting at a red light and watching traffic go by? You know, like that's something we had no choice but to get comfortable with.
5:06And it has, I'm glad I have that skill. I would be very anxious without the skill of managing boredom. And that boredom led to creative thinking, right? Thought, yeah, exactly. Do you want to hear my thoughts when I'm sitting in a red light? Can I guess? Yeah, you can guess. Is there a fart joke in here somewhere? The thoughts are glazed or cake?
5:32sprinkled or no sprinkle hot fudge hot fudge caramel fuck it both so I don't want a phone taking all that away from me hot fudge caramel fuck it both hot fudge caramel fuck it both fuck it both alright anyway look it I'm not we're not gonna this is we're not gonna solve it today but yeah but it's it's food for thought this is someone who's as delicious as glazed her cake she is oh wow extraordinary she is a hoot and a half a real firecracker. She has a Starburst tattoo on her right foot. What? Yes. As an actress, her body of work is ridiculously vast and yet she's still younger than any of us.
6:07Known in Hollywood for her transformative character work and strength on screen, you might be surprised to learn that her fear of flying goes as far as needing to meet every pilot before takeoff. Will's going to bond with that. When not in the cockpit, you could probably find her working on a Ryan Murphy project or 12 of them. It's still lovely and delightful and our good friend Sarah Paulson. Sarah, get your ass out here. Sarah Paulson. I covered the camera with toilet paper. Toilet paper? Sure you did. It would have been better if it was clean. By the way, use toilet paper. It's not clean. Are you in the bathroom?
6:39I'm upstairs. I'm upstairs. Yeah, near a bathroom. You live in your... This is your apartment in New York? I don't live in New York. I'm just here while I'm doing the play. But this is your apartment. We're visiting you in your apartment while you're doing the play. I'm actually staying at a friend's apartment, renting that apartment. Gotcha. And the play, we should mention. Is that the Tabasco Theater, by the way? It's at the spicy Tabasco Theater. That's really the Belasco. That's where Sean won his Tony. And Sarah's well on her way to hers. Tony, yes. Yes. It's the golden touch of that theater, Sarah, I'm telling you.
7:20In her incredible play called Appropriate. Everybody, if you're... No, no, appropriate. Oh, really? Yeah, okay, so talk about that, because we were like, it's spelled the same, and I was like, oh, I didn't know this. It's true. So are we supposed to think that it's both appropriate and appropriate? Well, I think at the beginning of the play, there's that sign, right? That sort of drop in front of the curtain that describes all of the various ways in which... The noun and the verb. Yeah, the noun and the verb. What is Will doing? Hi, Sarah, I'm just saying... Hi, how are you? He's working on his smartphone.
7:50Well, we don't really know you. No, I got some notification to verify that it's me on my Google. I don't know. But I was listening, and what I was thinking was... I mean, just exactly what we said. At least I listened more than you did. At least I listened more than you did when you were going to see her play, appropriate. Clearly. Thanks, Will. Yeah, Will was not... Both of you guys, you both missed it. I missed seeing the play. Now, Sarah, I don't really know you like these guys do, so hi. Then hush. Hi. Let us talk. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Weirdly, I wanted to talk to Will. I mean, I know you both.
8:22Sean and I will take a tight five. More interested in that. Take a tight five. But why is it appropriate instead of appropriate? I think appropriate could work just beautifully for that play. I think it could. And I think it's why he offers both options at the beginning of the play because all of it is applicable. But I think, I did ask him directly. It is appropriate. All right. I think he's wrong. You know what I think he's wrong? I'm going to tell him. Wait, so I want to do, so we went backstage. First of all, go see the play. It's amazing. You're phenomenal in it, especially that last monologue was incredible.
8:56You're standing on the stairs and it's like you're Scarlet whatever and you're just like, it's incredible. It's incredible. Thanks, Sean. It's really, really great. That's very kind of you, Sean. By the way, I love that thing too. People were like, you know, I was talking about it afterwards to friends and that thing about, it's too long to go into what the whole play's about because it's about a lot of things, but your character with your two brothers go back to the home where your father died and you're sorting out business and you find all of these questionable things in his past, like pictures of things and other stuff that bring up a bunch of questions about your family and your upbringing.
9:32And at the end of the play, I thought it was so profound when you were like, and please fill in the blanks, but you're talking to your two brothers and you're like, I'm the oldest of this family I got to hold you and watch you and see all of the things that create your memories but nobody's ever held me or was there for me nobody's left in the family who's done that for me for me yeah I thought that was really powerful yeah well it seems appropriate oh god it's definitely not appropriate this is why we hired Will it's definitely not because that's a completely different meaning no I mean Jason has a lot of skills but this one particular assessment is not one of them I tell you what do yourself a favor don't ask either of them to define it because it'll be embarrassing for everybody.
10:14So moving forward. I want to talk about flying and your fear of flying. Before we move beyond the play, Will, are you going to find some time to come see the play? I am. I'm going to see the play. What's the date on that? Just so Sarah can be ready. You know, I hate knowing when people are out there. She hates knowing. Just give her a ballpark. I'd say it, but she hates knowing. I wanted to, because I was going to say, I was about to tell you, and then she's like, I hate knowing. You got until June 23rd, buddy, but I don't want to know. I don't want to know. You know, I don't like to know. I'm the same way.
10:43I don't like to know when people are coming. I don't care if it's your dry cleaner. I don't care if it's your dentist. I end up thinking too much about whether or not it's my codependent, my kind of hypervigilant way of being in the world. Yeah, I'm just wondering. Like even any of my castmates, I don't want to know if your fourth grade teacher was there. I'm worried. I thought you were going to say, I don't want to know if you're in the play tonight. Well, that too. This is how I ended up with three kids. because people didn't want to know when I was coming. Listen, let me tell you something, Sarah.
11:13Let me tell you something, Sarah. That's terrible. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-dong. Sarah, let me tell you something. Here's what I'm going to do. I want to show you, and I have so much respect for you as an artist. Unlike these guys. I do too. Unlike these guys. Jason's quiet, by the way. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you when I'm going to come to see this show. I'm not going to come and see this show, and I'm not going to tell you afterwards. so you won't even know I was there. You just say, yeah. Okay? Because I respect you. That works for me. Sarah, how is that at the end where, you know, for Tracy in Wisconsin, it is a practice, a habit, an obligation for anyone in the audience who knows a cast member, or even if you don't know them, you just happen to be famous.
12:01Jason's obsessed with this. You are obligated to go backstage and introduce yourself to the cast, and visit for a bit. And if you don't, apparently that's tantamount to giving it a bad review. And so how do you like that dance there at the end where you're done with the play, you're exhausted, and now you've got to socialize? It's not my favorite. Although I will tell you, we've had a couple of fancy famouses come and not come backstage. And we all collectively discuss that we think it means that they didn't like it. Yeah, sure. But then we sort of think, Well, but think about it this way. So you're so famous, you think somehow that the cast, whom you do not know, wants you to come backstage and announce yourself to bequeath them with your great...
12:46It's arrogant. It's so weird. So it's that, there's no way to win. Yeah, you can't win. But we have had discussions about, you know, there was like some fancy person who came who had worked with someone in the play who didn't come back. And I was like, well, no, that is a communication that they just don't like you. Yeah, yeah. Right? So can I ask you, if I... Maybe not the whole play, just you. Yeah. If before June 23rd I find myself at the Tabasco Theater and I've seen the play and I've enjoyed it and I'm the first one to my feet and my hands hurt from all the clapping and I'm just – and I'm hooting and hollering.
13:18And then there's the moment. If you guys find out that I'm there and I don't come backstage, do you and your cast want me there? And there's a thumbs up. I just want to really make a point of this. do you guys do you and your cast do you guys want me there? I think we would discuss that we thought Will Arnett didn't like the play. That's what we would discuss. This is all I want. What if he doesn't like the play and he comes backstage and he lets you know. He thinks he's got helpful notes for you. He says, yeah, yeah, no, I enjoyed it. However, has anyone come back there and popped off about how you can make it fucking better?
14:03That has not happened, although I would kind of welcome it, actually, just simply so I could discuss it with other people about the outreach. I did do a play once. I've gotten that. I will tell you, I did do a play once. My last time I was on stage, I did a play called Tally's Folly at the Roundabout, and thank you for the applause. And the actress, and I'm going to say this, and I'm not going to ask you to cut this out because I don't fucking care. This actress came to the play. What's her fucking name? Hi, Trish. Hi, Trisha. Trish Hawkins came to this play. Am I going to get sued? I don't care because I think this is outrageous.
14:36She came to the play. If it's true. And I proceeded. My mother brought her to the play. They were in some kind of like writing group together. And my mother thought it would be great to bring Trish Hawkins to the play. I mean, this is a whole other conversation about my mom. Hi, mom. But she came to the play, proceeded to say. She looked at me and sort of up and down. And then she went, your dress is yellow. Mine was pink. And I thought, what? Oh, she did the character before you. Cut to two days later, I got an email that was six pages long of notes and a communication to me about what she had done when she had done the play.
15:12Jesus Christ. What she recommended I do. Oh, my God. It was outrageous. Oh, my God. It was really outrageous. Trish Hawkins, I have not forgotten it, and I hope to see you never. You still have the letter? I have it. I do have it. And did you talk to your mother and say, please delete her numbers? I didn't. I sort of just, you know, put it back in the file of things my mother has done. That's good, though. You need to save that. Sarah, can I just say that? I need to say something. I need to interject. If you don't mind. Yeah, okay. I don't know you as well as these guys. And I have a real feeling that you and I are going to be better friends than they could ever imagine.
15:48I love you for saying that so fucking much. Oh, yeah. No, you two would be inseparable. Sarah, I have all the time when people and when they fucking deserve it. I'm like, this is the deal. You cannot come to... If you're my dearest friend and we go have a cocktail or a little bread basket, Jason, or some air that we might eat, Jason. But, you know, post the show, some air. You might eat some air. Air is so tasty sometimes after a show, though. It's really wild how good it can be. But if you are a person that I love and admire, and I say to you, tell me what you thought, really. and give me some, especially like early days previews or something.
16:32All right, thank God. Okay, so here it is. So at the top of the show. But I would say this for Trish. I will say this for Trish, Sarah. It's we have. Trish is here, by the way. Trish is here. She's staying in your guest house, right? Yeah, my mom will probably trot her out. Try to bring her to the next play. By the way, Sarah, I also have a mom who says a lot of inappropriate stuff. What are you doing? We all do. My mom also, my mom's going to get so upset about this, but like Cate Blanchett came to the play the same night that my mother came, same afternoon that my mother came. And Margot Martindale came also.
17:04And all these people that I love and I have long relationships with and I've worked with Cate three times. I've worked with Margot more than once. And I, of course, was really happy to see them. And I was, I'm not saying I wasn't happy to see my mom, but it was like maybe the range was a little like, oh my God, Cate. Oh my God, Margot. And it was like, hey, mom. And she didn't like that? And I don't think she loved it. And I think her retribution is to just give me, like, a little less than I would hope for. Yeah. Because I think I'm giving her— She's got to keep me a little—yeah. And she was like, I mean, I know we're supposed to go out.
17:39I don't know why I'm making my mom sound like this, like, grand dame of, like, Fifth Avenue or something. She's really, like, the grand dame of Woodstock. She's like a tambourine playing, you know, hey, Mom. I mean, I'm really sorry I'm just disparaging you for my own comedy interest. No, no, no, no. But it's reality. It's my reality. I'm allowed to talk about my reality, right? Yeah. Trish Hawkins, my mom, they belong to me. And poor Trish. Poor Trish. Trish used to love Smartless. She loves Smartless. She'd listen to it every week. She loved it. I tell you what, about 25 million listeners per month.
18:10Trish is about to get the bombardment she never knew she had. She deserves, by the way. The one she deserves. She brought it on. She's a fucking persona non grata. I'll put that email on Instagram faster than you can say Trish Hawkins. We're going to put it in the chat. Oh. And we will be right back. Sarah Paulson, I want to talk about the fear of flying thing. You're my hero. Can I just say you're my hero? And you haven't even gotten into your shared fear of flying. Oh, you have this too. Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh, God, so we're best friends. When's your birthday? Hate to be, not to be too Amanda Anka about it, but when's your birthday?
18:44Yeah, here it comes. Oh, God, we're even better. May 4th. May 4th. May 4th, yeah. Okay. Yeah, 4th of May. All right, so it's coming up. What sign is that, Taurus? I just want to know what your sign is. Taurus, I'm a Taurus. And what's your rising? Do we know what you're rising? Gemini. Oh, yeah. What's your moon? I'm a Sagittarius with a Virgo rising and an Aquarius moon. So, you know, do with that what you will. And you believe in all that stuff. I don't. I mean, I don't know enough about it. I do kind of think it's a thing. But anyway, the fear of flying is very real for me. There's a lot of weeping that happens if there's a tiny pocket of it.
19:21Really? You'll go right into the crown? I'd write into the crying. The grabbing the stranger next to me. I know you guys haven't been on a commercial airplane in a very long time. But if you do do. That's not true. I was on a Falcon last week. Is that not? He doesn't like the Falcons. The Falcons, he thinks, are beneath them. The private planes are even scarier to me. I don't enjoy it. Okay. More room for us. Wait, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. I want to talk. So here's my thing about pilots. And I love hearing that you like to meet the pilot before. What I do is, I like to say to the pilots, how are we looking, right, for our journey?
20:00Because what I don't enjoy is if you get on a flight and you have a bunch of turbulence and the pilot doesn't say anything, he doesn't come over the... Correct. It's the lack of communication. I can't stand it. Just go, hey, we got some... It's run-of-the-mill turbulence. It's not a big deal. We're all good. We're blah, blah, blah, blah. Then I'm good. But Sarah, do you have this too? Because I have a little bit of this too. The second you hear that, and right before the pilot speaks, you're like, oh, Jesus, Just the thought of it makes me sweat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They should come on beforehand, right?
20:27We got some bumps coming up. If they come on and they give you a lay of the land, which is why I like to talk to them, because I say the same thing, how are we looking? They often pull up the iPad with the root, and they show me where the pockets of potential weather. They show me how we're going to fly on everything. This is there on Delta, United, American. I like Delta. Delta. Delta is a sponsor. Well, you know what it is? You know why? Because you know what it is? This is a relationship. and in the relationships really work with communication. So you need to have this communication. Hey, why don't you, if you can't grow up, Sean, for a second, then take five, okay?
20:58Because Sarah and I are talking about relationships. Take a tight five. You're back on a tight five. Sarah, why don't you invite? When's the last time you had a bunch of passengers stop by the cockpit and ask for... No, Jason, when you walk on, the cockpit's open, it's right there. Yeah, it's right there. Yeah, but if everybody stopped and asked to look at the iPad for the routing... I'm not asking to look at the iPad, I'm asking how we're doing. And they often pull out the iPad as a way of saying, here's what we're doing. I ask them how the plane looks, who did the checkout, like who went around and checked out the plane.
21:26I want to know how long they've been flying. I want to know. Do you ask for a little hint as to what chair the marshal's sitting in, just for fun? Sometimes I've done that. What if it's Sarah, what if you're like, how long have you been flying? It's some 20-year-old. He's like, I'm just flown for one week. Today's day one. Well, I want you to know that is literally every single pilot joke that is made to me every time I ask him. Like, oh, today's the first day. I'm like, no, no. Not funny at all. Wish me luck. I just was lobotomized. Yeah. And sometimes there are, you know, the young co-pilot has fewer years and fewer hours.
21:55How about this? How about I don't like to meet the pilots because if I meet the pilots, it becomes too human to me. And I don't like to imagine the fact that a human being is even possible. You can't fly a plane. Right? Like, I like to think that there are superhuman intelligent people up there that wouldn't even spend a minute with me. Like, they're doing adult work up there. He sits down, he sits in his seat, and he plugs a Type C plug into the side of his head, and it goes into the side of the plane, and then he just... Power down. He's there and he's making... Don't power down, Jason. Exchange information.
22:33Just there's like a software. Reboot in five hours. So, Sarah, are you also a type of gal who likes to chat with the Uber driver? Nope. Don't want to talk to the Uber driver. You have that already clicked on your profile there. no chitty chat. Oh, no, I don't. I did see that, but I thought that was rude. To click on it, to make a point of it. To click on it, to make it like a rule for them. Yeah. I'd rather just let my behavior and my demeanor communicate that. So if you got in the Uber and the guy started asking you a question, you would just stop him and say, check my profile, right? Well, yeah, no, exactly.
23:06I mean, think about the kind of vibe you got to kick out to him. I guess that's true. To get him to be quiet is more rude than him being pre-warned that this person's not up for a conversation. I guess I think I feel really uncomfortable in general in a car where someone's driving. I have to chat senselessly. What if there was a box for SmartList and you just checked it? I'd rather not chat today.
23:29If they tried talking to me, they always go, why won't you tell me? And I just go, sorry, man, my leprosy is flaring up. You know what I mean? Wait, Sarah, so I love this stuff because you're not only afraid of flying, but clowns, sharks, bees, and then you have, what is it? Trypophobia? Trypophobia? I have that trypophobia thing where I can't, I don't actually know how it's pronounced. Like Jason doesn't know about appropriate, appropriate, but it's trypophobia, trypophobia, I don't know. It's a fair tryptophan. Is it fear of tryptophan? No, it's not fear of tryptophan. It's fear of holes. It's fear of like.
24:06Holes. So like if. Like a group of holes. So like if you, like a group, a grouping, a whole grouping. I've heard this before. Like a natural sponge makes me like actually I have to, or a coral reef, not interested. Swiss cheese. What about an English muffin? No, it's not. I mean, those are nooks and crannies. Those aren't holes. Those are nooks and crannies. Those are nooks and crannies, Sean. Swiss cheese wrecks your night? No, because they're not close enough together. It's about when they're packed tight. Right. So a loofah, no thank you. I don't like a loofah at all. So what's the reaction?
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24:38It makes my skin crawl and I have to run away. And Ryan Murphy decided that this was so funny that he decided to make a season of American Horror Story about a character that I played who had this disorder. So then I was constantly all day long having to look at these things and run from them, clowns as well and things. That sounds like bullying. Did that get you past your fears or did it make it worse? It just, it just, it kept it at a steady, at a steady, steady place. I'm not. It kept it on high. But the bee thing, you know, I've never been, not to bring up my mother again, but my mom. You know, that's what this is about.
25:16She locked me outside. She deserves it. One day, my mother determined that the bees would be, should be something I should get comfortable with because, you know, obviously they do a lot for our planet. They're wonderful. They're great. I had never been stunned when I was. Yeah, exactly. Dirty hippie. And so I had not been stung at that point. And I still, at the ripe old age of 49, have not been stung by a bee. Because I will drop a baby. I'm not kidding. I will drop a baby, a tiny baby, and flee if a bee. I'm not kidding. Equally, equally afraid of bees. You are not. Are you really? Oh, yeah.
25:51I really don't like them. It's my kryptonite. I'm allergic. Have you been stung, though? I've been stung twice, I think. I'm not allergic. See, I think I might be making it into something that is. or I'm actually deathly allergic and it's my, you know. No, mine's gotten less as I've gotten older. But the thing for me is that you can't feel them when they land on you. And so the shock of the sting is just going to come out of nowhere as opposed to, you know, if I'm in a fight with a bee and he gets better of me, then I'm not going to be, you know, I'm going to get stung. What if you had super tiny boxing gloves on and they did too?
26:29and you're just like, God, that's a great idea, Sean, you stupid fucking dick. This is a... You guys want to hear my ultimate kink? My ultimate fantasy? And I've never told anyone. Uh-oh, here we go. Oh, boy. It's I'm getting stung by a bee while I'm sitting on a big sponge going through turbulence. With clowns. Going through turbulence, yeah. With a clown pilot. With literally dying. With a clown for a pilot. Yeah, you go up there and do that. How are we looking? He goes, pretty good. Whee! Whee! All right, Sean, start your fucking questions. We're 40 minutes into this thing. You haven't answered a question yet.
27:06There's the one question that Michael Terry wrote for you. You've got nothing. I've been trying. Talking about clowns. But I like this stuff more interesting because everybody knows who you are. Everybody knows your work. And I want to talk about that. But I want to talk about your tattoos first because you have a lot of them. And I want to know. I did not know this. We got a little freak on our hands, huh? I like a lot of tattoos. You know, pink, huh? She's all tattered. Where you got them, huh? I got tats everywhere. I was just saying yesterday, I was just saying, nothing says don't hire me like a neck tattoo.
27:37Yeah.
27:41Yeah. Well, she doesn't have them on the neck. I have them on the back of my neck. Oh, yeah? That's okay. It's the face forward. It's the face tattoos and the neck tattoos. It's like, and I'm sure there are people like, like the comments, like, bug you. Neck tattoo saved my life. I don't care. But... Neck tattoo saved my life. Believe me. On your right forearm, it says, I love this. This is a Stephen Sondheim lyric. I know that Jason's going to make fun of this. Okay, but I love it. Does it say I'm just a storyteller? No, but it's not that. You're safe. You want to say what it is? You want to say it?
28:18I want to say it because I love it. It's from Sunday in the Park with George, right? Five, six, seven, eight. Anything you do, let it come from you. Then it will be new. See, Jason hates it. I love it. Can I punch it up a little bit? Is it too late? It's temporary, right? No, it's not temporary. It's on the box. You could add to it. I could add to it, but there was actually a line that I took out of it because I thought it was too pompous. What's that? What was it? Which was give them more to see, as if I could do something like that. So how would the quote have been? It would have been anything you do, let it come from you, then it will be new.
29:06Give them more to see. This is a musical about George Surratt, the painter. Mandy Patinkin played, Bernadette Peters did. And it's basically her singing to him. It's from a song called Move On. You know, get out of your sort of... That is a beautiful quote. Get out of your rut, your artistic rut. That's nice. If you want to sort of take away a little bit so it doesn't seem too pompous, you could just put comma JK.
29:34You know what I mean? Could you imagine? All right, let's get into Sarah Paulson and how you started. And I want to know, like... Sarah, I'm so sorry about your decision today to be with us. Florida, right? We're in Florida. Tampa, Florida. You were born? And how old were you when you moved to Maine? I was born in Tampa, Florida. We moved to Maine when I was in the, how old were you in the second grade? Seven. Seven. So I moved there in second grade. But we moved to New York first. It was New York when I was five. And then Maine and then back to New York? And then Maine and then I went back to Florida and then back to New York where I moved a lot of places.
30:10My mom was a young mom. This is fascinating. Your mom worked at Sardi's on Broadway, which is right next to the Hayes Theater. That was her first job when she moved to New York. That's crazy. Wow. I was working at Sardi's. I mean, was she an actress as well? No, a writer. Oh, wow. And she was a young mom? 21. She had me at 21 and my sister at 23. So, you know, we can kind of forgive the Trish Hawkins situation because she doesn't know what to do. And daddy, if you don't mind me asking? Dad, also a young dad. No, in the picture, still in Florida. Really? You know? Were they ever married? They were married.
30:44They were married very briefly. Divorced by the time I was two and my sister was 10 months old. Still could have been your fault, though. Sorry. Yeah, definitely. If you were colicky or something like that. Yeah, he was like, God, this colicky baby. I always wanted to sing these Annie songs. Uh-huh. Wait, so Sarah, so tell me about that story about your mom. Tell me about the story. Tell me about the story. Tell me about the story. About your mom seeing a psychic at some point and telling what? I knew you were going to say that. No, your mom when you were a kid. My mom went to a psychic when I guess I was young.
31:21And she said something like, you know, your daughter's going to live a really non-traditional life. Yeah. And she's not going to do things sort of by the book. And did she tell you that's what the psychic said? She told me that after I was older and fell in love with a woman. And then she was like, well, I had the psychic tell me that this was going to happen. Because to her that was sort of living a non-traditional life. Not the acting part. Not the acting part. Yeah, exactly. But you knew at such a young age because you went to the fame school. Wait, didn't Aniston? Aniston went there, yeah.
31:54Were you guys in the same class? No, she graduated a little bit before I did. Oh, snap. We will cut that out. Are you kidding? We're going to fucking loop it and we're going to send it to Jen immediately. These are just the facts. This is not, you know, it's not a, I mean, nobody looks better than Jennifer Aniston. That's a fact. That is a fact. That is the best effect. So, wait, Sarah, so your sister's a casting director. You're an actress. Brothers and sisters? I have another sister. My dad remarried. I have a half-sister named Rachel. We don't know what she does. Okay, but why? She actually teaches acting classes that she, I mean, I'm literally.
32:33Is this true? We can cut the whole episode. Okay, Sarah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I mean, everybody's involved. Everybody, so I moved to LA. There we go. And then my sister, so here's the truth. And everybody has this in a family, I think, to some degree. I mean, I don't know what your stories are. And frankly, I don't care. Don't get me started. My family's normal. But I'm just saying I wanted to be an actress from the time I feel like when I was in utero. Like it feels like I came out of the womb wanting to do this. Yeah. My siblings, I think, had more, I think, less of a clear idea about what that particular passion was.
33:08And are probably better at a lot of things. Whereas I have one thing that I can do. you know whereas my sister's great at math and all this other shit that I can't do you know but I mean I don't think it's that strange is it or maybe it is like are all of your siblings like none I have three other brothers and a sister but did they all know what they wanted to be whatever it was they wanted to do did they have that my sister kind of had a yeah my sister did a little bit she knew she wanted to be a cop she was are you kidding your sister's a cop yeah she is a cop well she was not anymore she'll kick your ass she'll kick your ass by the way Sean's sister yesterday, I want to say this to Tracy.
33:45Tracy lives in Wisconsin. Tracy, listen up. A beautiful red golf shirt. A beautiful Wisconsin Badgers golf shirt. Yeah. Which was very generous and with a beautiful note that was so nice. She's a very nice person, Sean. I don't know why she deserves what you're saying behind the scenes. Clearly, you've got her wrong. You have her wrong. Tracy is a wonderful person anyway you should give her another shot Sean so and by the way Sarah do you play golf if you play golf also my sister send you a shirt I don't I don't play golf I still want the shirt is that bad yeah no that's okay I still want it I sleep in it okay great and now a word from our sponsor so wait I want to know about about Holland the love of your life well it's wedged just north of Belgium Belgium, just south of Denmark, considered part of the Benelux countries.
34:47I want to know the fun story because I know a little bit of it, but you were at a dinner party and you hoped she wouldn't be sat next to you or something. Yeah, you know, I went to this dinner party that a friend of mine hosted where it was really kind of for Buck Henry, who was there. And it was a wild night. And I was at this dinner, it was a long, long table, and there was one empty seat. and Holland Taylor comes sort of, you know, bustling in and her hair just like throwing her hair back and just, oh God, sorry I'm late. Which, you know, late people, when they're really that late, it does end up making it sort of all about them when they arrive, you know?
35:25So she was really doing a like kind of grand, oh, I'm so sorry I'm late at all. And I looked up and I thought, that is really a very beautiful person. And I found her to be intimidating. She's really smart and has a kind of formidable presence. Yeah. And is incredibly talented. And I just, I was young at the time, guys. I was 35? Wow. 36? Oh, wow. And she sat down next to me and I thought, oh, God. And then, you know, we just chatted a little while and then really never saw each other again except for on the back lot where I was doing Studio 60 at Warner Brothers. And she was shooting Two and a Half Men.
36:03And she rolled her window down and said, hey, Blondie, do you need a ride? Oh, boy. That's what she said to me. Wow, look at that. Right. And I was like, oh, I'm okay. I can walk to stage 19 myself. And we never saw each other again. And then we ended up doing a little PSA for Martha Plimpton's abortion. This is not going well, guys. This is not going well. By the way, I know this is the story about how you and Holland got together. Yeah. For me, it's the details of it are the fucking meat. They're really the meat of it. Because the Buck Henry dinner and the Martha Plimpton abortion. Margaret's abortion.
36:44This is like the fucking Olympics for me. This is incredible. Yeah. She has an organization called A is Four, which is an reproductive rights organization. And she asked us to do this PSA. So Holland and I happened to arrive on the same day. Holland was getting ready to come to New York to do her production of Anne, which she wrote. that was going to be done at Lincoln Center about Governor Ann Richards. It was a one-on-one show. That was the prequel to Annie. Is it not? Yeah. Well, it was probably Annie, like when Annie, like, is finally a grown-up. She grows up, right. Grows up to be governor of Exodus.
37:16It was a really hard-knock life before that. Yeah, exactly. Hard-knock life. Yeah, and we saw each other there, and then we followed each other on Twitter, and I literally DM'd her when I was shooting in New Orleans. Yeah. I slid into Holland Taylor's DMs. Wow. Wow, look at that. And then I sent a picture of her to a friend of mine and I was like, can I date a 70-year-old woman? Right. And my friend was like, absolutely not. No, I'm just kidding. She was like, yes, you can. She was like, fuck no. Are you insane? And I was like, I think I'm going to do it. I think I'm going to fucking do it. Why not?
37:49And so I did it and then the rest is history almost 10 years. That's so awesome. That's amazing. That's so cool. Did you say 19 years? No, nine years. I'm 66. Okay, I don't know. I'm not paying attention. And she's 110. She's 110. 10. I love being around you guys, too. You can just tell how, like, comfy you guys are with each other. Very easy. One plus one making three. It's just, you're both individuals, but you got the overlap. Yeah, we don't live together. That's the sort of secret. You know, Sean's married to a man. I do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't sleep together either. No, we don't.
38:26Holland and I, we spend plenty of time together, but we don't live in the same house. Now, talk to me a little bit about Are you serious? Yeah. Tell me about that a little bit. And again, okay, this is, I'm divulging too much, but I said to Alessandra recently, who also, you'd like her tattoos. She has a lot of great tattoos. Yeah. On her neck, right? No, no, no. On her arm. She does have one on the back of her neck. And I said to her recently, we started talking about the idea of separate beds. Jesus Christ. And somebody wrote this, in the same room, somebody wrote this thing, she sent me this article because I kind of joked about it.
39:00Yeah. Because sleep is so important. We're big sleepers. We're 915 in bedders. And so, yeah, yeah. And that's why I am 65. And that's why I look so incredible. That's why I look so confused. And I'm taking the words out of you. I feel like I'm cutting you off. No? You were about to say it. No, she didn't say how great you look. Okay, okay. Nope. But sleep and hookers keeps you young. No, but we start talking about this idea. And so then we made a joke, and we're not going to do it, but this joke about, like, living separately, living in another house, there is a certain wisdom to it on some levels, right?
39:34I mean, we've been together for a long time now, and I think part of it has to do with we're together when we want to be and we're not when we don't. Yeah, but couldn't you, but instead of just challenging it, instead of living in separate dwellings, what about just living together but then sleeping in separate rooms? No, because my favorite thing to do, we fall asleep holding hands, Holland and I. We sleep holding hands. Like we're very, I don't, I like to sleep near her. I don't want to be around her the rest of the time. Just kidding. Sure. It's the daylight hours. You know what I mean? It's the daylight hours where I'm like, you can go.
40:12But no, I mean, I think we both, you know, Holland before me had not been in a ton of long-term relationships. Whereas Holland is my sort of third, you know, more than five-year relationship. So I tend to do that and have more experience doing that. Holland has it. And so her life and to get to be her age and sort of not having really cohabitated with someone for a long time, I think it was a lot to sort of all of a sudden have me and all my me-ness in her space. But if you live separate days, you've got something to talk about, right? Where in Canada are you from? If you live separate days. I think that, you know, like I spend a bunch of time away, as you guys do as well when you're working.
40:59And it's kind of, it's nice to be able to fill your partner in on that which they have not experienced with you. It gives you something to fucking talk about. I thought you were going to go somewhere else with that. But yeah. Honestly, it's my, one of my favorite things is to come home after a long time and fill my partner in. I was going to make the same joke. And I just want you to know that that was the joke I was going to make. And I appreciate you, Will. and I appreciate that I'm not the only one with the mind. Of course not. The size of a tiny pea. Now, what I... 11-year-old. Now, Sean, I will recommend to you something that Amanda and I do is that we do share the same...
41:32We do share the same bed, but we have two different duvets. Therefore, when she rolls over or I roll over, there's not a duvet drag that wakes up the other person. That's what I'm doing. That's great. But Jay, my thing is snoring. Do you snore or Scotty snore? He could bring down a building. Right. And I snore a little bit. Well, you know, do what Amanda does. You just slide your hand underneath the shoulder just a little bit, create a little bit of a wedge, and they roll over. You get that guy on his stomach, and he's not going to snore. What about earplugs? Nobody gets a guy on his stomach like JB.
42:07Hey, you guys. Hey, you know what? No, but then he's got the thing. You know what? The snoring is a real thing. Does Scotty have a CPAP machine? No, he's going to get it like the newest, the greatest latest. He's going to try it. But he also has what we call the pot of life on his arm because of diabetes. What's that? Oh, the diabetes. So what, that means he can't roll over? Well, then he's like, it's on his shoulder. So then he's like laying on. Hey, do they not have lemon laws in California? What's going on? You still got the receipt on that guy, right? Fuck, man.
42:39That's really funny. That's so funny. Anything else on the list, Sean? Anything else about my career and my greatness? Well, let me check it with Will. Will, can I move on to the career or no? Hey, wait, Sarah's not done alienating more people in her personal life. You've got a minute, 20 seconds left to ask a fucking question, Sean. I got, wait. No, we're just getting started with Sarah. I'm here all day, right? Like, I've got a ration of food here. I've got a... We bought a double booking from her. If this interview's over, I'm FaceTiming you because this cannot end. Wait, I want to know, like, I was going to go through all your stage stuff.
43:16You did The Glass Menagerie opposite Jessica Lange. You were in a show with Jessica Lange. That's so amazing. And did Ryan Murphy see that and that's how he cast you in American Horror Story? Or did he see you in something else? Yeah, what's going on with you and Ryan? What kind of stuff do you have on him? And will we ever see him? I got nothing on Ryan. Ryan's an open book, man. Everything I got on Ryan, you know about Ryan, you know? You know I've never met him. I'd like to meet him. You've never met him? No, never. I don't think I have either. I met him maybe decades ago. You're keeping him all to yourself.
43:46Why don't you share him with us for Christ's sake? I share him, but I love him. He's, you know, he's been very, very good to me. Like the first person in my working life I felt who really saw me, you know, like he continued to say, I'm not, I don't know why I always use sports analogies when I don't watch any sports, but he continually threw me the ball just always and thought I could do things I didn't even know I could do. And so for me, he's just an absolute hero in my life, both as a friend and a professional person. And so you really felt seen. I really felt seen, Will. Yeah. Yeah. Did you feel?
44:21But then like Nicole Wallace in Game Change. Yeah. Fucking phenomenal. Absolutely incredible in that. Wait, Nicole Wallace? I played Nicole Wallace before Nicole Wallace was the MSNBC lady. Yeah, she's my hero. Yeah, I played her in Game Change. You got to see Sarah Player. She's an unbelievable performance. Incredible. What is it? It was when Julianne Moore played Sarah Palin. This was that HBO thing where Ed Harris played McCain and Julianne Moore played Sarah Palin and I played Nicole Wallace. You literally played Nicole Wallace. I did. No way. Did you ever meet her? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No way.
44:55I'm such a big fan of hers. I watch her every single day. It was a very, very traumatic thing that happened. I mean, you should watch them. You should watch, Sean's right. You should watch the movie. It's amazing. What's it called? Game Change. Okay. Got it. She was really traumatized by the whole thing, the Sarah Palin thing. It was really... Yeah, I'll bet. Yeah. So much so that she didn't vote for her own candidate. She didn't vote for John. She couldn't vote because of it. Wow. It was really wild. And then when you played Marsha Clark, phenomenal in the O.J. Simpsons thing. You know, actually, I've got a couple of notes on that one.
45:27You got a couple of notes? You got a couple of notes on that? Yeah. Are you guys locked on that? Because if so, I won't give you the notes. Okay. You should probably not because it's already here. No, you are... I don't... I think I can safely say you've never sucked. Ever. Yeah. Never been bad. Yeah. I got a couple of things in my closet that I think you'd be like, this wasn't the. Probably on three-quarter inch tape, right? Yes. Not even in the days of. VHS. VHS. Yeah. Fucking, guys, can I just get a little bit of credit? You got to go? No, I didn't jump in when I was teed up with sucked and in the closet, and I didn't say fucking.
45:59Yeah, no, I went right past it. You didn't do it. I didn't either, so I bought it. I didn't say a fucking, I didn't say a fucking, I just sat here like a good fucking. It's a cheap gay joke, you know, but you refrained. No, I didn't say anything. Sarah, I read that after the OJ thing, Marsha Clark, you couldn't watch yourself anymore. Is that true and why? Yeah. What? Yeah, I can't watch myself now. Well, I actually decided to, I think for me, the Marsha Clark thing was the first time I had done anything where I felt so much connectivity to Marsha the person. and so much, it just was the first time there felt like a real creepy actress-y kind of melding of like, almost like a visitation where you've been sort of embodied by a person you don't know, I mean, how it happened.
46:47I'm waiting for your joke, Will, about being embodied by, you don't got one? He's writing it. He's slow. Just be patient. He'll get there. He'll get there. All right. That's okay. It's just an opportunity missed. It's not a big deal. But it was the most connected I ever felt to anything I'd ever done professionally And I thought if I watch this, and also it was in conjunction with the most celebrated I had ever been about my work. And so I think I thought if I watch this and everybody thinks it's great and I hate it, I'm going to sort of ruin my experience that I'm having that has never happened to me before of feeling really, you know.
47:21Yeah, I understand that. You know what I mean? Like I just thought I'm going to go in there with my hypercritical way and tear this apart. and that would be a shame because this is the first time I feel like anyone's giving a shit about my work or what I'm doing and so I thought I should try to enjoy it and then I just kept it. You should check it out. It's pretty fantastic. All of it. And you should also remember that nobody's going to be more critical about your work than Trisha. Trish Hawkins. I'm surprised I haven't gotten an email from her. If everything that's ever come out, I'm just shocked.
47:50So is that still your policy is to not watch your work? Yes, except for when I have been EPing things, I do watch it, but I try to watch it in a kind of way where, you know, because I'm giving notes. Well, you're depriving yourself of incredible performances, but that's just me. I have one last thing and then we're all going to let you go. So Nicole Wallace, Marsha Clark, and then Linda Tripp, crazy transformation, incredible. Look, you completely disappeared as Linda Tripp. And so I'm watching your career from outside going, oh, she's so phenomenal at playing as a character actress. Is that your go-to comfort zone?
48:30I feel like the vanity component of this industry, particularly for women, but for all of us, I feel so hyper-focused on this shit, the face and the body and the hair and the weight and the thing and the wrinkles and all this shit, that I definitely feel a kind of freedom when I can hide behind these other things, whether it's Marsha's wig or Linda's, the prosthetics to play Linda. And I can hide. It's a way of hiding that I think ultimately - She died. She did die. She died right before we started. No way. Yeah. Wow. Wait, Sarah, before we go, before we go, I just want to know, because you're a creature of the theater like I am, super fast, funny, tragic theater story, anything happen either in this play or another one.
49:16Funny or tragic theater story? I mean, I don't know if there's a more tragic story than getting notes from an actress who played a play 30 years ago. But funny, something happened the other... Well, two things happened recently, which is, you know, in the play, which you guys saw, we can discuss this later. Sure, sure. In the first act of the play, I am having an argument with the black sheep of the family played by Michael Esper, who... The great Michael Esper. The great Michael Esper, who I think you were. He's incredible, and he's a great Corey Stoll. And I leave the room in a big huff, and I'm very upset, and I've just blown up and screamed at everybody.
49:49And I leave the stage and slam the door. And his line is, what happened to her? And someone from the balcony went, you.
49:59That's the balcony for you. Yeah. And then the other thing that happened that was kind of cool the other day, which is I'd never experienced that. And I don't know if you ever have either, Sean, but we had an actress get sick in act one. And then the understudy went on for act two. That's never happened, but I've always wondered about that. It was like Days of Our Lives or something where like someone was decapitated in season four. And in season 10, they came out with a different thing. Did you have to make an announcement? or you just did it? Yeah. Yeah, they make an announcement, and everyone just clapped, and there's something very special about the theater where, like, people are willing to believe anything you do up there as long as you kind of commit to that world, and you like a good pilot, let them know what the fuck is going on.
50:35Let them know. Not to bring it full circle for you guys, but I gotta say. That is incredible. It's a relationship between you and the audience. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. You gotta communicate. It's the key to everything, you guys. Listen, lady, early congratulations on your Tony Award. incredible performance we love you and thank you for even showing up today I just met you but you're my favorite that's all the time we have what a delight Sarah I've never been so delighted oh my god thank you also at the Tabasco Theater Sean you live on there have I told you this first of all your poster is down in the room did you talk about this on the show at all the elephant room The elephant room under the Tabasco Theater.
51:19Did you talk about this in my boy? Everybody's already talked about it. You say it. But there is, I mean, it's really cool. They call it the elephant room because Houdini, right, used to have this massive room underneath the stage that could hold an elephant. Because he was going to do a big trick where he was going to disappear an elephant. Yes, where he raises the elephant from the thing. So they call it the elephant room. And so that's down there, and there's a big poster of Sean down there. So you're calling me an elephant. Well, I'm just saying, there are a lot of posters that are not down there.
51:44There's two posters down there, and yours is one of them. And also every night when I walk backstage to get to my entrance, there is a corkboard on the right-hand side that the prop guys have up, and it just says Oscar Levant on it. I love that. So I sort of think about you every day when I'm there. I love that, honey. That's very sweet. Thank you. And I'm so glad you're there, and I'm so glad we saw it, and I can't wait to root you on. You were really great. I really appreciate it. You wrote me a lovely text. I didn't hear from you, Jason, but I'm confident I will. No, check your spam. No one's in there.
52:11I'm confident I will hear from you, Will, when you come backstage or when you don't. and then, yeah. I had a terrible joke and I didn't say it. I just had another terrible one. I saw your whole, I want it. Please give it. Get it out. Get it out. And it's fucking killing me and I said that Houdini was going to do the, he was going to do the trick with the elephant. It was too long so they asked him to trunk it. Asked him to trunk it. Fuck you guys. Fuck you. Fuck you all. Look what you made me do. Look at you. You did this. Look, I'm in shorts. Strangely, I have to go. I mean, I just have to go now.
52:43I know. You've got to rest your voice. We love you. We love you. Sarah, love you. Thank you, guys. Bye, honey. Bye. Goodbye. That was great. That'll start your week. Happy Monday, everybody. You have a great Sarah Paulson to give you a nice little jolt of love and energy. She is the best. Is she something else? She's funny. And by the way, and everything she's done, like you said, Jay, she doesn't, I know we say it a lot about a lot of people, but never - Never terrible. Never terrible. She's one of those people who's never, who's always good no matter what she does. Yeah. No matter what she's in.
53:17She's also just like, just to be around is, as you can see, it just makes your day, makes your night. And you put her and Amanda Pete together, a couple of best friends there. Yeah. You know, you just, you're flying for a week. Are they old school best friends? Yeah. Yeah. It's like you watch them, it's like a ticket to a free show. They just like go, go, go, and it's fun and engaging and charming. Yeah, it's great. Well, I know, I said it already to her, but I'm really excited about, her and the award shows coming up for her in New York. I think she's going to kill it, and I'm so glad she was here.
53:52Oh, are you waiting for a bye? Oh, sorry. No, no, no, I didn't know. Because you were just... Usually when you take the initiative, you've got a head full of steam going towards the bye, but not today, huh? And then it was just a fucking... And then it was just an absolute peter out. Yeah, I know. Just a fucking... Oh, is there an elephant one? No, no, no. I was like... Let's see. Oh, let's see. Let's see what we think. The Tonys. Let's Google. Trish. And then that one. Let's see. Trish. Monica Lewinsky. Nothing about the elephant, right? Okay. How about movies versus theater? She's with Ryan Murphy.
54:31Well, she's on New York. She's in New York. She's also in Los Angeles often, so maybe she's bi-coastal. We could use bi-coastal. Oh, yeah. We've done it a few times. We've done bi-coastal quite a bit. We've done it a few times. We've done Biden We've done a Biden We did We did Take a bite You know I know one Okay go ahead Yeah Hey Sean Hey So what's up Hey Sean Hey You know the theater The Tabasco theater that she's in It's actually the Belasco Yeah the Belasco Sorry the Belasco theater she's actually in Isn't one of those big theaters Like where you No Yeah you can see everything in close You don't need to sit in the back With one of those opera You know things You know what they use to see real far in a theater?
55:13You can pull them. Oh, oh, uh. Binoculars. Binoculars. Binoculars. Wow, Will's really blowing up. Smart. Bloss.
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This week we fly-in the amazing Sarah Paulson, with whom we explore and examine the nooks and crannies of an English Muffin, a shared fear of flying, and how to eat air. So get ready, put on your bee-sized boxing gloves, and join us… for an all-new SmartLess.
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