"Steve Martin & Martin Short"

25:01I mean, you're screwed now. Well, the truth is, I enjoy working with Marty and I think it's vice versa. So we actually enjoy it and all that other stuff. You get six hours a day and you're just down the street. Well, I mean, that's a good idea.

25:24No, you know, it seems like way more work than it is. It really is because we'll do maybe four shows and then we won't do it again for two weeks. Right. And they are fun. I mean, Steve and I will then, you know, have a glass of wine afterwards and discuss the show and everyone kind of loves each other because we have the Steep Canyon Rangers and we have Jeff Babco, my piano guy. I love that. And everyone and the stage manager, it's all become very close. So it's fun. Yeah. There are no pricks allowed. Our max is six, maybe seven shows a month. Okay. So it's not, you know, I couldn't do it because I got a family and I love being home.

26:08Yeah. No, me too. Steve, is it true years and years ago, Steve, that you, I've always heard this, I've never had the fortunate opportunity to have one, but did you used to have cards made when people came up to you, asked for a photo or an autograph, and you would just hand them a card that said, you've met Steve Martin. I thought it was funny. This was in the 70s when I was getting asked for a lot of autographs. And so I made up a card, and it said, because I thought, what do people really want when they get an autograph? They want to say that they met you. That's the main thing. And what was he like?

26:40Yeah. In, you know, like the 12 seconds that they met you. What was he like? So I wrote, this certifies that you met me and found me warm, charming, intelligent, and funny. And then I had a printed signature on it. And then I found out I'd give the cards out thinking it was hilarious. And then they'd say, could you sign this? No way. Yeah. So I thought, well, that's over. Oh, wow. This, when you guys come together and you think up another show, because how many of the live tours have you guys done? It's four, five, six? Well, you mean different titles. I mean, but we keep changing the material all the time.

27:17We always... Well, in fairness, it's slowly evolving. We never throw everything out and then bring everything new in. It would be impossible. So it just slowly evolves. Yeah, like what is that process like? Would it be like what the process would be, I'm assuming, for stand-up, where you've got to spend a bunch of weeks or months accruing brand new material, observations, jokes, et cetera, and shape that into a set that you like. Is that the same process you guys go through? Or no, you're saying it's sort of the same core and then you just kind of update it, yeah? Yeah, we change things one line at a time.

28:00And then every once in a while, we'll come up with a new idea and we'll put it in whole. And is there a formal process when you guys will get together and write? Or you do it via Zoom? Will you just sit there? Zoom. We'll do Zoom. We'll do Zoom, and we'll have a bunch of material in front of us. But, you know, we'll do that at the beginning of a tour if we have a lot of new material to go over. Would you guys consider doing, like, Google Spaces or Microsoft Teams? Oh, we've done that. I don't want to fuck with your process, your creative process, I'm just saying. Now, Marty, is it true, Marty, that you originally saw yourself more as a singer and an actor?

28:42And if so, at what point did you feel it was a safe pivot to go into straight-up comedy, screw the singing, screw the I'm-not-going-to-be-a-character? And do you regret it? And do you? And what were you thinking? No, I think it wasn't until I joined Second City in Toronto that I started to develop characters and realized that I could improvise and all that stuff. But up until then, I thought I wanted to be Sinatra. Frank Jr., oddly enough, not the father. And I wanted to... And I used to, you know, I used to do musicals and I would do plays.

29:21But I'm sure you must have been, you must have had some comedic success in high school, right? Junior high, college. Well, no, no, I was funny in the class. I heard you killed in St. Catharines. I heard that you would kill in Hamilton and say Catherine. Is that true? You know, the hungry lion in Hamilton. No, I grew up in a very funny family. My brother Michael has won many Emmys and awards for writing everything from SCTV to Schitt's Creek. So he was the eldest, and it was a very funny family. My father was funny. So it was kind of natural to be funny, but I never thought of it as something I would do until later on.

29:57And as you know, Marty is an incredible singer. I mean, I listen to him on stage every night. He's never flat. He's never sharp. And curiously, he's never on the note.

30:15But, no, he's incredible. He never misses. He has a beautiful tone. Is he a better singer than you are a banjo player? Absolutely. Is he? that's high praise because you know what you're doing on that thing, right? Well, oh, Steve's good. I do in a way. There could be some Grammys there. In fact, whenever Steve plays the banjo. I've won Grammys playing the banjo. You've won many Grammys, Steve, haven't you? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Playing the banjo, hell. Yeah. Whenever Steve plays the banjo, I like to just close my eyes and pretend I'm on hold with Cracker Barrel.

30:55do you guys do a bit of a singing slash banjo playing uh piece in the in the live shows we don't we don't actually sing and play together we we do some songs but we use piano and we use our orchestra but we don't have a banjo number jason have you not seen it no i've never been so good it's so funny and so it's hysterical with the show i've never i haven't seen it either i've I've been busy. I've been, in my defense, I'm very busy. Yeah, I know you've mentioned, I hear, I listen to SmartLess all the time, and I always hear, you've said many times, I'm busy. I'm very busy. I'm just not sure at what.

31:31Yeah, busy. At what country. Wait, wait. Steve, I want to ask you, actually, you mentioned Grammys, and you've won Grammys for your banjo playing, but you've also won many Grammys for stand-up over the years. and I don't know if you do any stand-up anymore at all, ever. The only stand-up I do is in our show. Yeah. I call it stand-up with Marty, but we each have a section in our show and I just sort of do monologue jokes and introduce a song on the banjo and play it. But I love doing it. And it took me as long, as much time to work out that 10 minutes as it used to take to work out 10 minutes. You realize you're three years into this and you've got one little area that's weak and you're trying to fix it.

32:24And now it's feeling really good now that it's old and overexposed. Is there, what is the oldest joke that you still include in your set? Like the one that just never fails. It goes all the way back to Carson perhaps. you know appearances there no anything i don't i don't know i mean there's there's jokes that you know for example when we did our netflix special that we then we really started trying to change things out and then three years later we're talking we're going you know what i missed that one joke right blah blah blah and then we would put it back in and then no one knew or cared marty you're you're famous for the for really loving preparing uh uh very deeply for uh for talk show appearances.

33:11I thought you were going to say, Marty, you're famous for using the same old joke. Which one is your favorite? Which one of the three? How is it to deeply prepare using old material? But you enjoy, did I hear this right, that you enjoy preparing for talk show appearances, whereas some of us... Well, I just have a philosophy about it. I mean, I just kind of, it's like, it's work and you've got to prepare. I just don't want to go out and fail and feel it was my fault. So if I send in, you know, 15 pages and then I go out with Kimmel or Letterman or Fallon or whoever and they're off or I'm a little off, but if I go out gunning for bear, I feel like whatever happens, I can still toast myself because I did everything I could do.

33:59I feel the exact same way. How's it going today for you? Did you prepare today? I did and none of it is working. You should toast yourself because you did your best. You should toast yourself. You know what? I should. I should. I mean, I got the lighting. Again, the sort of the portion of the interview, hashtag relatable, talking about talk show appearances, I find that I get, I start to feel sad and like I'm losing my soul as I start to like, like the two weeks before the talk show appearance, I start to really try to log things in my life. Oh, this would be good to talk about or this would be good.

34:36And they're like deeply personal, cute moments like with your children or whatever. And you think, well, fuck, why am I logging this for a talk show? I should be really interested. Yeah, but it all works out, Jason. I should save this for a movie. I should save it for a TV show. No, no, but it works out because, no, really, you're working, you're feeling you're losing your soul. You feel sad and depressed. And then when you do it, that's what the audience feels. So it's a free journey. you transferred to the audience yes i'm not sure what you mean you mean you feel like you're giving away your private life to do a talk show anecdote no i feel like i should be more present in my in my moment with my children or whatever instead of thinking oh this is funny what she's doing i'm going to talk to camel about this like that that's just you're doing the right thing you're doing the right thing yeah but don't you it's interesting marty we've talked about this before yeah where people don't realize those kinds of on-camera interviews on those talk shows are kind of performances and it's like we've all seen them and all witnessed them so we know what the good ones look like every single person in show business so don't you want to do a good one first talk show i ever did was in 1982 on letterman and i kept thinking what do i like same thing you're saying jason what do i talk about what do i think about and then i realized oh i get it it's you've got to it's like being at a dinner party where everyone's had some drinks and you're kind of on and telling stories, but somehow you have to lift that six minutes because you don't have the hour and a half ramp or the booze.

36:07Yeah, you know what I can't stand though is when people go on who are funny, like considered funny people in the business and they just like to talk about something serious and people at home are judging them and they go, oh, I saw them on Letterman or Fallon or whatever or Kimmel. They're not that funny. They're not that funny. Yet, yet a dramatic actor goes on and says one funny thing. People at home go, and they can do comedy. It's amazing. yeah you know i used to really resent so bitter yeah i know i used when i was when i was young and dumb and and really super duper full of myself i used to think oh i you know i'm going on this talk show like they're lucky to have me i don't have to prepare anything fuck that you know and and they're not paying me to write and of course you know the appearances were terrible and and i would see them and i'm just like oh my god you you punk and then as i got older and wiser as we all do, then you start really working on stuff.

36:59And that, that pre-interview with the producer for Tracy does a lot of this stuff is, is, is talked about beforehand so that there is a cohesive six minutes where you're going to get to a few questions and not that the answers are prepared, but you've got sort of an angle that might be entertaining for the audience. But they all, all the hosts, all the hosts vary. I mean, you know, sometimes you go, But when I would do Letterman, I swear he would hit one quarter of what I'd prepared. One time he said, tell the Tony Randall story. And I said, I was on two months ago and told the Tony Randall story, Dave.

37:37He said, I don't care. Tell it again. I have a secret fantasy, which is to go on a talk show totally unprepared and just to see what happens. but you could do that and there are certain hosts that could definitely do that because sometimes the notes are really almost there more for them but a lot of them like Kimmel for instance you can just go on there and you can just go right off the questions you sit down, how are you doing? great, and you guys are just both riffing you're having a conversation like we're having I mean we're barely prepared I'm certainly barely prepared what's my next question here?

38:16I want to talk about Only Murders Did you guys, when you, first of all, we share a mutual friend, John Hoffman, who I love. Yes. The bright, always cheery, always sweet, always kind, would kill the half of it. And then he stabs you in the back. Yeah. Did you guys know when you were developing it together, not of, I hate that question, did you know it was going to work, but did you have a sense that with the writing and you guys and like the first table reads and the first kind of days of shooting, like, yeah, this is, we have something here. or were you still kind of unsure until the season was wrapped?

38:49Didn't know a thing. Didn't know a thing. You just write it according to the premise. Yeah. And then when it started to hit the air and you started to get back word that, by the way, it's the biggest debut that ever and that sort of thing. I don't know how accurate that is. Yeah, it's huge. And that's when you start to get excited. But you don't change anything because of that. You just, oh. And then even a year and a half later, you start to go, what is this? Yeah. Right. Yeah. We'll be right back. Now, there's word that you guys are going to be going to Los Angeles with it. Is the whole show switching to Los Angeles or no?

39:28Well, that's one of those news stories, because we're shooting two days in Los Angeles, that it's mistaken for, they're moving to the entire season, you know. No, it's just, it's like a location shoot. I gotcha. But it is shot in New York. Right. Yes. Do you both live in New York? Steve lives in New York. I rent in New York. But you rent while we're shooting. You don't live in New York. That is correct, sir. Would you guys like for it to be shot in Los Angeles 100 % of the time? That was my, you know, when I had the idea for the show, I pitched it to them, to the producers, Dan Fogelman and Jess Rosenthal, based on, I wasn't even in it.

40:11I said, I think this is a good idea. And we liked it. And then they called me and said, would you do it? And I said, well, I can't. I could only do it if it's shot in New York. Right. And then that's what, you know, that's why it was shot. And also it's a New York show, which makes it kind of great. Well, I mean, that's the thing. It's great that it's shot in New York. It feels 100 % like a New York show. And you just added Molly Shannon, I read. Molly Shannon, yes. That's super fun. You have a great cast of people on that show. So fantastic. Yeah. And that's what, when we get somebody that we can really like, We worked with Matthew Broderick.

40:45It was like so easy. And the comedy is so good. It's like you've worked together your whole lives. Yeah, Matthew's great. I love him. But talk about an out-of-the-box piece of casting with Selena Gomez. It just obviously seems incredibly genius now. But the two of you with her is so unexpected. How did that come about? It came about after the fact. because I had originally pitched it as three older people who have a lot of time on their hands. And we were busy. And then I think the studio suggested what about Selena, actually. What about Selena? And we met her on Zoom. They actually cast her. And we met her on Zoom.

41:33And Marty and I, after the Zoom, we called each other and go, she's perfect. Yeah. Wow. She's so sweet. Well, I still wasn't sure. I was saying, okay, maybe a female. But what about Kathie Lee Gifford? She's a local hire. You've always been a champion of her. You pull out names from an old hat. From the Harry Potter sorting hat. Now, talk about another thing that you would think would be unexpected. Steve, you've lived a very private life. It's very, very cool, very mysterious. I love that about you. You don't seek attention, Marty. And yet you've got this. But there's this documentary coming out that is covering you from soup to nuts or already out.

42:26And was that pulling teeth to get you to be a participant? No, no. Morgan Neville as the director would probably a huge draw for you. Yes, Morgan Neville. I'm so glad. What's it called? It's called Steve, exclamation point. Okay. Yeah, Steve! And I got a call from Morgan Neville about this documentary. And his credits are Won't You Be My Neighbor and 20 Feet from Stardom. Yeah. So many, you know, he did a thing called Cool School. Yeah. And I met him when we got along. And, you know, when you do a documentary, you have to open up, first of all, your archives, which I happen to have. They told me, they said, you have a lot of archives.

43:11And I didn't realize I had a lot of archives. So they went prowled through my archives for months and months and months and found things. They found... Like an old sock? A photo. Pardon me? A photo of an old sock. Get the photo, not the sock. I love, too, that you didn't know you had archives. You were just like, who was saving them? It was a cherished sock. Anyway, they found a photo of my father in Germany in 1943 doing a USO show. Oh, thank God. That could have gone a different direction. That could have gone a different direction. I was like, hey.

43:58wait Steve Steve let me ask you did you did you have did your um did you start archiving years ago hire one of these people to do that I did not archive I saved things you know like and I realized later you know I would take things like oh I'm on a magazine cover I'll save it and I'd throw it in a thing yeah I was saving all the wrong stuff I should have saved photos which you Photos were hard to come by then. You just didn't snap it. You had the photo that ended in. It was change film, the whole thing. But when I wrote my autobiography, I did have one little plastic box where I just threw things in, and that had things like a receipt from a hotel in Salt Lake City in 1971.

44:49So you knew where you were at that date, and you could research. Do you remember her name, though? It was like archaeological because as it went down, you would go past time, go through time. Speaking about receipts, when Marty's biography came out, he didn't send me one, so I went to the bookstore, bought it, and while I was at the cash register, put the book and the receipt, took a photo of it, emailed him and said, that's okay, I got it.

45:28very good by the way you can you can buy Marty's book on Amazon yeah I mean you you won't but right if you needed it it's there Marty what a biography what about a documentary biography for you like a documentary can't make his deal no it's there's going to be one oh really Lawrence Kasdan the legendary director is doing it for Imagine really Wow, great. When does that, have you been shooting it? No, no, no. It's just, they're just, again, accumulating stuff. Yeah, well, that's going to take years. Yeah, they're making the final decision on who it's about. Yeah. They're trying to decide the ending.

46:08Yeah. How long are you in town, Marty? Are you in, are you in. I go to New York in about two weeks for, you know, we start shooting. All right. And is it, is it that, are you in the middle of production or. We don't start shooting for two weeks. Yeah. A new season, I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll start, we'll shoot a couple days in L.A. and then the bulk of it in New York. Okay, got it. And how are you guys enjoying that, the process of being, you know, locked onto a show that lasts, I mean, how long is your season to shoot? Four, five, six months? Yeah, four. It's about four months, and I actually love it.

46:43You know, the studio's 20 minutes from my house. Yeah. And also, you're working with two other co-stars, Yeah. And so you're not shooting every day. And when we work together, it's really fun. Yeah. And I would say that it is definitely Steve's philosophy, my philosophy, and it turned out, luckily, Selena's philosophy, to make the set as much fun and joyful as it can be. So there are no pricks allowed. And so it's fun to go to work. It's just stunning, right, how people don't enforce that rule commonly on a set because the hours that you work, the cast and the crew, are often many more hours than you spend with your family.

47:24So why would you tolerate anything short of a family dynamic on a set? Jamie, you've always been good about that. You're a crew guy and you've always had that rule, no pricks on set but me, and you've adhered to it, you've stuck by it, and you've never deviated, and there's only one. I've said this on the podcast before, but any job I get the very first day I say out loud to everybody is if you look around and you can't find out who the asshole is, it's probably you. Yeah, it's true. Well, you guys have been very, very nice to help us celebrate our 200th. I mean, this is a very significant booking.

48:01What a thrill. If we added up our ages, it'd probably be around that. What a thrill. It'd be close. I worked with Jason in 2004, you know. On what? And Will. Oh, Unarrested, yeah. Unarrested. Unarrested. a rich fella that had lost the use of his legs with a weightlifting accident. And he was so wealthy that he, and hated wheelchairs, he hired a big meathead, a big heavy fella to carry him around like a little baby. That was hilarious. And then Marty would bark directions at him, you know. Shoot me! Yeah, shoot me, take me this way. To the nuts! And he'd have to dip him down to grab a handful of nuts.

48:43And then they did a flashback of the actual accident where he's lifting up a barbell, he puts it over his head, and he just says, too much! And then his leg snapped underneath him. And then we cut back to the present time. The funniest joke of that, though, was when I'm being carried by Dragon, his name was, and I say, to the nuts! To the nuts! And he puts me at Jason's crotch. And I, against his crotch, I'm going, Bridge mix! I want bridge mix!

49:18Where did Mitch... Was that your joke or was it Mitch's? Mitch, the great Mitch Hurwitz. It must be Mitch's, yeah. Oh, my God. The crap he'd come up with is just so good. The great Mitch Hurwitz. I remember doing the Maya and Marty show with Marty, you, and we were rehearsing something in the hallway, and I said, should we just, like, should we just kiss after that line? He said, yeah. Yeah. let's do it. And he goes, let's rehearse it. And you just grabbed me and kissed me. There you go. Oh, he uses that a lot. I love that. Then I had to give you one note. I just said, you know, it's a comedic kiss.

49:55We don't need the tongue.

50:00It was great. I mean, you know, there's times in one's life where you get to meet the people that inspired you

50:13and that moment has not come yet. And you guys are the two reasons you got into this business. I was literally going to tease you. I was going to joke and say, don't you start crying. You're literally crying. Yeah, because a lot of the times you don't have these moments. Yeah, I hear you. We're very, very fortunate. I'm with you. We get to meet some real heroes on this show. Hands down, you two are the two reasons. You're serious, aren't you? He is deadly serious. He's very soft and chewy on the inside. That's true. Thank you, Sean. You guys are incredible and incredibly generous to say yes to doing this today.

50:56So thank you. Thank you. I love your show. I love when you're joking around. It just feels like you're with three friends, you know? Not you guys. I'm sure it's what you guys enjoy working together all these years we certainly feel that way I remember I was on one of the early shows and you didn't even have a title yet and I suggested the McGuire sisters you did we got so close we got so close with that sorry for getting choked up there but I meant it that's why you are so lovely because you are a 100 % human being well thanks likewise and he's got great taste You guys are the best. Thanks, you guys.

51:36You guys are the best. It is such a thrill for us. Thank you for having us. Thank you, guys. We loved it. Yeah. And I'll give you the address for the check. This will never air. This will never air, by the way. This will never air. It can't. No, it can't. There's nothing usable. There's nothing. You guys. We'll punch it up later. The great Martin Short and Steve Martin, my gosh, thank you guys for doing our 200th episode. What an honor. Thank you. Brilliant show. Love. Have heard everyone. Love your show. Thank you. Bye-bye. love you bye guys thank you guys thank you bye bye so i'm gonna say this i was at this um dinner at our friend ted's house yeah and he had about 30 or 40 of the funniest people in his business and i was fortunate enough to be there and dave chappelle stands up and he gives this incredible speech about how everybody in that room means something to him and has meant something to him and it was just incredible.

52:34I was blown away by his speech. And I thought, good on him for making that speech in the moment while it's happening. And so I had this conversation with myself. I'm like, do I say it? Do I say it? Do I wait till we're done and I say it to you guys? And it was like, no, embrace the fear of saying that, the thing that you feel in front of the people you want to say it to. Of course. And so I seized the moment. It's just so lovely. And I guarantee you that just drilled them right in their heart and probably meant the world to them. Because I guarantee you they feel at least half of that going back to you.

53:14Yeah, and you know what? I will say this too, and I'm with you, that those two guys have had, or two people that I as well have as a sort of comedic actor, if you will. I don't consider myself a comedian, but as a performer, two guys that I look up to as being at the sort of the pinnacle, again, gold standards of people that I think are funny, who have created funny things over the funny characters. For years. For years. They have been relevant at the top of their game forever. And so the idea that I'm in a conversation with them, that they're doing our podcast, to me is not, the novelty of that has not rubbed off.

53:53Right. And I hope it never does, right? No. And I never want to. Right. and I never want to get to ever get to a place in my life where I don't recognize things like that and I take them for granted because we've all been in this business for fucking 100 years and you don't want to just pass moments by where you're like, oh yeah, there's so-and-so or there's so-and-so. It's like, you know them and it just takes a beat to go, wow, how did I get here? And those two guys. You never want, as soon as a novelty wears off, you stop enjoying and appreciating how fortunate you are. I still remember, I think I was like, I don't know, 13 or 14 or something.

54:30And I'd been going for a couple of years. And one of my buddies at school said, well, what's the most famous person you've ever met? And I forget what I said, but I remember there was like one person, you know, that I thought, well, this would be a great answer. I still remember that like it was yesterday. And I think about it all the time on this show because we are so fortunate to be able to talk to people at the zenith of this business. And I feel, I mean, my pits are sweating right now. They sweat every time we record this show because we're talking to someone that I don't feel like I really have a right to have on my show, our show.

55:15Like, what am I doing hosting a show that they would be a guest on? It's just bizarre to me. JB, I played this thing yesterday, you know, that thing that you couldn't be at. And one of the guys I played with said to me, he said, oh, man, that Bono, when you guys had Bono on last year, and he knows Bono, he was like, that was such a great interview, and Bono had such a great time, and he really felt really comfortable with you guys, and he really had such a great experience. And I'm thinking, like, Bono told you that about hanging out with us fucking morons? Like, what? Yeah, well, none of this is lost on us, clearly.

55:48No. And then... We're lucky. We're fortunate. We're not lucky, but we're really fortunate. And as much joking as we do about our lives and all that kind of stuff, that we get to do it, that we get the opportunities to do it, and that we get to do it together. Yes, and now that we're talking about all this stuff on another level, that we get to do it together. And that I admire you guys and love you guys just like I did them. It's really cool how those two guys, we were talking about it, that's why they're bopping around together because they just love being with one another. Just like, you know, we love being together and how this whole thing started.

56:27It's so funny, you know, doing this thing and, you know, we do it together and people have opinions on it and opinions on our relationships and people come up to us and say stuff and whatever. And it's odd, right? It's very kind of revealing sometimes. It was part of it that I never expected. They talk about which one's the best, which one's the funniest. No, but they talk about what we do. And it's exposing in a way, right? In a way that I didn't anticipate before about being so open. And I feel very lucky, like you were saying, Sean, that I get to do it with you guys. I feel very safe doing it with you guys.

57:07And I love you guys a lot. And we, like anybody, we have moments that are tough as well. And we do stuff. And because we're friends and we're in business together and we do stuff. But as you know, we are, I think of you guys as my for real brothers and friends and I love you guys a lot. I love you too. And we're doing this 200th episode. It's fucking crazy. Right. It is crazy. It's fucking crazy, dudes. The other cool thing is that while we do hang out with each other away from this, this is not 50%, but it's, let's say, 35 % of the time we spend with one another. And we shared this relationship, basically.

57:52We share 35 % of our friendship with the people who are listening. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys. And thank you for being a part of whatever this three-headed beast is. You see and you live with us 35 % of our friendship, which is kind of cool. It's been on podcast called 35%. Willie, you started this podcast today kind of down. How do you feel now? I feel a lot better now. Good. It always works. Yeah, you do. Yeah, right? It always does work. It always works. It's wild. You better fucking show up with the right attitude next time. No. I'm going to show up as me every time.

58:33It's true. Wherever I'm at. I don't try to flip a switch at all, right? We just open up the computer and away we go. Yeah. You're at where you're at. And it's true, like I even said, I anticipated that you start here and you can always end up up here. Always. Right? And that any day, any given day doesn't have to be a bad day or a good day. You can have lots of different things on every day, and that's just the color of life. Yeah, you know, people come and go. You say hello. You say... Bye. Bye. You say goodbye. You say goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I wish we had some of those recommendations for byes right now.

59:14Right now. Will, are you trying to Google one right now? We went to, we went before we were just going to say a by. I feel like there's something we could do like in a bicentennial type of thing because it's 200 years. Oh, yeah. We used to do it, Jay. It's our bicentennial. Do it. It is our, it's our, this is happy, happy by. By Centennial. Is it really bicentennial? Yes. Smart Less.

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