"Trevor Noah"

28:58Because we had a lot of fun. It looked like a lot of fun. It really was. It looked like a lot of fun. I don't want you to get the wrong impression. Happy days are here again soon. I promise. It's also wild that people, instead of just not watching you or listening to this or watching that or whatever, they take the time to watch it and then comment on it. Just turn the channel. Instead of just turn the channel. Yeah, but you know, at the time, It was so hard launching The Daily Show that I actually preferred having those people than not. I was like, okay, we have these people. You've got an enemy.

29:35No, not even an enemy. I was just like, we have viewers. These people are passionately watching the show and we need every single person to watch. So there was actually one guy I reached out to. There was a guy who was tweeting vitriol at me on The Daily. He was like, you know, you're a piece of trash and you'll never make it. And if I ever meet you in the streets. And I DM'd this guy and I said to him, hey, man, I just really want to understand. Like, why do you hate me so much? I've never met you. I've never said anything about you or your life. I'm just trying to understand this. And I've never seen a faster switch of tone.

30:09He immediately was like, oh, hey, dude. Oh, it's not personal. And I have nothing against you. I just thought it was funny to pile on. And he said, in all honesty, I have nothing against you. I actually think you're quite funny, but I don't think you're going to succeed. I think the show will fail and you're going to burn and crash and burn. Wonderful. And then I said to him, okay, let's make a deal. If I'm still on the air in six months, you'll stay on as a lifelong viewer. And then if I'm gone, I will retweet your tweet and I'll say you were right. And he was like, oh, deal. And then he was like, good luck, man.

30:40I'm wishing you the best. And then six months later, I DM'd him again. I was like, yo, are you still watching? And he's like, oh, the show's gotten so great. And you know what he made me realize? That's crazy. That's amazing. No, but you know what he made me realize? I'm honestly eternally grateful to him because he made me realize that most of, not all of, but most of the poisonous infighting that you have in America is due to the fact that most people are speaking past each other, not to each other and with each other. 100%. People don't actually engage. People don't see each other as human beings.

31:16It's all a theoretical exercise. But you'll be surprised to find that most people, when you sit down with them and actually, if you're forced to have a type, like a conversation where you connect, people start to see each other as humans that exist beyond their political affiliation. And a lot of assumptions going on too. Always assuming. And it's just a game. It's like sports fans. I think American politics has become like sports where you say everything to the opposing fans, but you don't mean it, mean it, but you go like, this is the purpose of what we're doing. We're here to tell them that they need to die and we want to kill their players and we hate everything they do and the ref is biased when he rules in their favor.

31:54But when you meet in a grocery store, then they're humans because they're doing the same thing. They were basically exaggerating to make a point, you know? But yeah, when you get face-to-face with it, they get a little bit more real. Yeah, I mean, I hate Manchester City as a football club. Wait, what? Yeah, I hate Man City. Uh-oh. But then I also love Pep Guardiola and I love Holland and I love... Kevin De Bruyne. I love all the players. I've never met anybody who has a... Because I'm a Liverpool supporter, a massive Liverpool supporter. I'm a Liverpool supporter, but I don't hate Manchester City.

32:29Well, just because they're going to beat us. Oh, yeah. But, I mean, they've spent the money and it's like, I get annoyed, but I... Yeah. You see, it's funny. Like, for me, the rivalries are more games that I'll think of, but Manchester City, I find... My point was, I say I hate them, but then I like all the players on the team. Okay, I see what you... I like Pep Guardiola. I like Holland. I like the Bruinette. I like Phil Foden. I like all their players. So I don't really hate them. But I have to because they're... I do hate the Boston Bruins. That's a hockey team. That I do. I do hate the Boston Bruins.

33:01Send me your letters. I don't give a shit. Fuck you. I fucking hate them more than you fucking, like, hate me. Trevor, now, have you since now become... Is following politics a hobby for you now? Do you enjoy it? Or now that you're out of there? Yeah, you don't need to be in the swamp anymore. So I don't follow politics as a hobby. What I try to do is understand which conversations can exist beyond the noise. You know, I often try and explain to people when I'm having conversations with them is, so the most interesting thing about the U.S. system for me is the fact that it leads people to believe that there are only two ways to do something.

33:53It's Republican and it's Democrat. And I've never understood that framing, to be honest with you. I've never even understood how newspapers will report. And these are distinguished newspapers. They'll write a story that leads with Democrats win and it's a law that's changed. But I go, no, that should just be the law has changed and that should be how you report it. It shouldn't be that it's a win for somebody or a loss for somebody else. It's a lot of the media. It's a lot of the media, how they frame everything. So I follow it now to try and understand where the issue lies and the politics ends because issues are real.

34:29Politics are how we try and solve the issues. But politics is not real. It's not actually a real thing. But Trevor, and I'm not being coy here at all, Well, maybe this is, I think you've probably noticed in this country, certainly, that there's not a lot of appreciation in any aspect of life for nuance in this country. Yeah. You're either on this team or that team. Yeah, and it's very binary. And it's always a sort of a zero-sum game. That is part of the American experience. You win, you lose. There's no nuance. That is true. that is true i will say you know if you if you want to liken it back to sports i always say to say to my american friends i go i see why soccer was never the most popular game and might never be it's because in soccer we have a draw we sometimes say you know what neither team won neither team lost this was a great game everybody go home yeah yeah it's winners and losers and so if if politics is also about winners and losers then nobody wants to concede because it automatically means that they've lost right which isn't a good way to have politics as opposed to compromise yeah politics should never be about winning or losing it should be about compromising and then you know understanding that the majority it's even stranger do you do you ever think about it when you when you look at america's results i'm always shocked at how states are called blue or red and then you look at the number and it's like 51 percent and people confidently say well that's a red state and i go like but it's 49 % blue right or the or vice versa everything's half and half yeah right everything's right in the middle yeah well if you think and this is terrific for politics in general and so I don't mean to come off as completely naive but the idea that the actual politics are more and more important than the policy is absurd right all of the politics is supposed to be a mechanism by which we sort of, that sort of drives policy, right?

36:21And that should be what people are concerned about, what the actual issues are. And they're not. They're much more invested in the game of it. And as you said, the win or lose of the game. Yeah, but a lot of that I will blame, you know, to what you said, Sean, is like, I think the media has to take a lot of blame for that because the media has enjoyed turning it into a game and the media has enjoyed turning it into a spectacle. And so if they reinforce that narrative, then I find lawmakers, you know, one of the most interesting experiences I had when I first came to America was I went to New Hampshire for the primaries.

37:01And this is literally, I've been in America for barely a year. Now I'm in New Hampshire, you know, and Vermont and all of these places. And I will never forget seeing, there were two politicians who were you know on the stump and they were giving their speeches and it was vitriolic and they were you know this person is going to destroy the country they're going to do this and then in the evening I saw them at a diner and the two of them were sitting together laughing and they were like how's your family how's everything going since I was a kid I don't understand that in many ways it's almost like wrestling it's like American politics you see these people in the ring and it's like Triple H I'm going to rip you limb from limb.

37:40And as a fan, you're like, yeah, kill him! Kill him! And then, only to find out that your favorite wrestler who hates the other wrestler in your mind is actually great friends and is the godfather to their child. I think American politicians don't do a... They don't do the country a service. They do it a disservice by not showing everybody that they do get along, that they go out together, that they have meals, that they're friends, they're at each other's weddings. Also, I think language is important too. You do? You do? A Republican or Democrat says, who's ever in office, they say, well, the Democrats thought blah, blah, blah, or the Republicans thought blah, blah, blah.

38:17And it's like, you have to say the Republicans in Congress feel this way, or the Democrats in Congress. Because what happens is it generalizes everybody. Well, I'm a Democrat. Well, I'm a Republican. Now you're telling me that we all think that way? No, it's just the lawmakers think that way. You know what I mean? That's a good point. And also think about the idea that, Look, it's the spring of an election year. Of course, and again, at risk of sounding completely naive, of course they have to pit them against each other because they need to drive ratings because we know that all of it is driven by commerce.

38:53Everything in this country is driven by commerce. And so if there's no race, if there's no, they have to say so-and-so is leading by this. If the election were today, these are the weak spots. He's ahead. She's ahead. He's going to crush. He's not going to crush. they have to keep us in the game. Yeah, they just have to be more discerning. Yeah, because they need us to watch the commercials in between. So if you really want to get mad at it, get mad at CNN and MSNBC and Fox and all of them because all they're doing is in service of commerce. That's it. Yeah, it's completely in service of commerce.

39:25If I break it down into three levels, I'd go, you know, on the media side, I wish they would stop turning it into the spectacle that they do, but they probably won't, as you say, because the money's there. Well, that's what they want to get, you know, once you can make a profit, it changed everything. Sports get the best ratings in this country. And so if they can turn it into a football game, they'll do it. But on the ground as well, I think as people, that's something that I found strange coming to America, is how people would say, I am a Democrat. I am a Republican. And I'll be like, what? What does that mean?

39:57Where I come from, people just talk about how they voted, but they are not the thing. Right. And I think if you take yourself away from being the thing, you allow yourself the opportunity to either be disappointed by the thing or step away from the thing when it is necessary. Because you shouldn't be, I am a Liverpool supporter is correct. We will go up and down with Liverpool. Whereas in politics, you should just say, I voted for this and then I voted against it. And it's like, I'm not that thing. Well, imagine we lived in a world where you could just, all you did was you weren't voting. There was no such thing as a party.

40:33And you just voted on issues. Yeah. Right. We'll be right back. And now, back to the show. Noah, so what about hosting? Like, do you still want to keep hosting? Is it something like you're like, I did it. I'm moving on to something else. Oh, no. Or like, would you have aspirations to host the Oscars, the Emmy, like award shows or anything? Well, yeah, the Grammys, how many years now, right? Oh, that's right. I forgot. MTV and... The Grammys has been fun. I've done the Grammys a few times now. Now, were you a huge music fan before that? Have you, has your... You mean was I human? That's a strange question.

41:18Who doesn't like music, Jason? No, but I mean, like, some people are obsessed with it. Jason doesn't know what humans do, dude. Well, maybe a better question would be, has your passion for music increased since you've been behind the curtain? By the way, I apologize. Of course I've watched Sean the Grammys. I completely forgot. No, no, no, no. You're fantastic. You know what? You've established you're not right earlier in the book. No, no, no, no. Don't do that to Sean, guys. Don't do that. I know what he means. And I'll tell you why, Sean. It's funny. I don't think the Grammys is the same as the Emmys or the Oscars or any of those shows.

41:52Well, I'm an actor, so I watch those more. Yeah, but also the Grammys is like hosting a concert. The Emmys and the Oscars and all these other awards, they do feel like an award show. The Grammys just feels to me like a concert. Yeah, that's true. That's great. I've definitely developed a greater appreciation for artists. Seeing them rehearse, seeing how hard it is to get everything right, seeing them do it live, that's what's definitely increased. And then also my palettes. Every time I'm at the Grammys, I discover a new artist that I now become a fan of. What about a full genre? Yeah, definitely.

42:28Are you a fan of country now? I listen to way more country now than I ever did. You know what I mean? Everybody, like the Luke Combs, you name it. I just got into it because you would hear the song so many times in rehearsal and you'd see how amazing it could be. And then you fall in love with it. That Tracy Chapman performance. Oh my God, I cried my eyes out. I know. I know. Incredible. I'm not a huge, a lot of the music at the Grammys is not really my taste, generally. What do you mean? It's all kinds of music on the Grammys. No, but I'm such a, like, 90s indie rock fan. Oh, right. So they would have awarded your bands years ago.

43:07Yeah, if it was like Bill Dispill and Dinosaur Jr. and the Pixies, I would have been like, ah, great. But then I watched that Tracy Chapman, and you just forget what an unreal fucking talent she is. Trevor, what is the phone number that you've gotten from hosting the Grammys all these years that you're most proud of? Which artist? What famous rocker do you now have on your phone? Oh, I don't have anybody's number, to be honest with you. You don't go up to the phone, hey, hey, hey, it'd be great to hang out. I was in a band. You can have my number. I would gladly take your number. This is a strange thing to say.

43:45So I always found it strange that people would try to be friends just because they're in a similar space. So I don't know how to explain it. You're famous. I'm famous. We should hang out. Yeah, but okay, so this is what would happen to me. All right? You would all probably understand this. I remember when I first came to America, and now I would get invited to events because, you know, part of the Daily Show, and you go to these events, and everyone would be like, oh, we should hang out. Take my number. Oh, my God, Trevor, we got to hang out sometime. We got to get a coffee. We got to get a coffee.

44:15This guy's great. Let me get your number. Where are you? That's a good accent. I'm there all the time. We got to do it. And I would give people my number. And in my head, I was like, wow, I'm making so many friends. These people are so friendly. This is amazing. And then I would hear nothing from them. I would message them. I would hear nothing. They wouldn't respond at all. People, by the way, people in Hollywood change their numbers all the time. I don't even know who. Everyone has a new number all the time. And then what would happen was, this was one of my favorite memories. I met somebody and this has happened a few times I met the same person at another event maybe like a year later and they're like oh my god Trevor this is oh man how have you been congratulations man we gotta hang out let me get your number let me get and I was like I think you have my number and they're like no no no no I changed phones and I got a whole thing didn't your number I was like my number didn't change like no and then I put my number in on their phone and you know when you type it in on the screen then my name just popped up and I was like you have my number and I'm like wait what Yeah, yeah.

45:14And then what did Justin Theroux do?

45:21Oh, let me tell you. Okay, I have the greatest Jason Bateman story for me at least. For me at least. This is one of them. I don't know if you remember. This is easily, easily my favorite memory of you. It's also a horrific memory, but now I laugh at it. I can't remember yesterday, so chances are high. I was, so I was invited to a, it was a Netflix party before one of the Emmys. It was for like a whole bunch of nominees before the Emmys. And Ted Sarandos was hosting this event and everyone's gathered. And it was, I mean, it was star studded. It was crazy. And you don't see these people all the time.

46:02That's the misconception everyone has is that if you're on the same platform, you just hang out. Right. I was just standing there, you know. and I look across the garden where this event's being held and I see Jason. And I'm like, oh my God. And I've loved you forever. I go, you easily want like my favorite comedy performance. I mean, all of you are in different things. Like Sean, I used to watch Will and Grace with my mom. It's okay. No, no, no, no. It's okay. Me a little bit more. Don't throw the compliments away. I mean it. Like literally, the timing, the cadence, everything. Will, everything you do on like BoJack Horseman.

46:34So I love comedy. I love the technique. But last, right, with Sean and Will? Yeah, I mean this honestly. Going forward. You're easily one of my favorite funny people ever. But at that time, Ozark was just, it was my life. It was the best. It was a pretty funny show. Anything I had seen that had flipped the whole genre of like, you know, drugs and everything. One of my favorite comedies too. I thought it was very funny actually. So I see you and you see me standing across the way. And you look at me and you just gave me like a little eyebrow. I was like, hello. Hey, man. You know, and I was like, oh, damn, okay.

47:11And so I walked over to you and I said, hello. And you were very kind. You're like, hi. And I immediately went to, I was effusive. I said, I love everything you do. And I just, I went and I said, you did this. And I was like, I love game nights and I love this. And I was just listing everything off because I love, I genuinely love them all. And, but then I said, I said to you, I said, oh, and most recently you crushed it. You know, I didn't think Ant-Man was going to be good. And it was phenomenal. And you listened to me break down the whole Ant-Man everything. And then you paused. And I swear it was like you had written this.

47:46Your face, you went like, huh. And he said, do you think that I am Paul Rudd?

48:00And I will never forget that moment. And I went, no, I thought that Paul Rudd was you. That's a great saying. I gave him, but it's true. I was like, I gave him your performance is how good I think you are. I just, anything good he did, I was like, it should be Jason Bateman, I guess. I strive to be Paul Rudd. Yeah, and we just stared at each other awkwardly for a moment. And you said, huh, did you come here because you thought I was someone else? And I said, no. And you said, but you said Ant-Man. and I said I would rather say that I'm racist and you all look the same than admit that that happened.

48:40And then we just stood there awkwardly for a moment and you were very nice. We just stood there and I said, well, one day we'll meet again, hopefully under different... And what I should have said is don't worry, I'll never remember this because I know how to pour cement over bad memories. JB, do you remember that? I do not. He doesn't remember anything. Trevor, by the way, don't take it personally. No, no, no. All I know how to do is remember dialogue. My brain at an early age was formed into that being a one-trick pony. I can remember dialogue. What about a Coke dealer's number? Yeah, yeah. Still, do you need some?

49:17Yeah, you remember that. Yeah, you remember. Wait, 27 years. Do you remember old dialogue, though? No. I have a great delete button, too, so that I have room on my drive for tomorrow's. to not remember the other things. Oh, he's one of the all-time great dialogue memorizers. But I'll go to a movie with somebody, and two days later, I'll talk to that person, and I'll go, you know what I saw a couple days ago? You've got to see this movie. Right. I've done it a dozen times. What does that mean? I do that too sometimes. I'll do it to Scotty. I'm like, I was at this movie. He's like, I was with you.

49:52I mean, it's terrible, but maybe it's good. I know what that means. Because if I'm with somebody, it feels so comfortable. I mean, it blocks out the bad memories, right? Early onset? That could be. It could be just a trace. Why are you saying early? When you think you're young? I'm not that young. Just slide a fucking compliment into yourself. Here's another one. Here's another one before you carry on. This was, can I just say, so, you know, obviously I'm a huge fan of the podcast and I understand the format. But here's the thing. I didn't know that the surprise guest was really a surprise thing.

50:28Yeah. We didn't know you were going to come on. We've only broken on a couple times. Yeah, so we were at the Vanity Fair Oscars party. Right, yeah. And I saw you. And Will walks by. You walked straight to me, Will, but you walked to me with the confidence of somebody who knows that I'm coming on to the podcast. And you were like, hey. And then you said, yo, I'm so excited. And I didn't know what, I was like, oh. And then I was like, I'm so excited to chat to you. And then as I said that, Jason was behind you staring at me like I had killed his whole family. But he couldn't hear anything, by the way.

51:05He was just staring at me. And I said, I'm so excited to chat to you about Formula One. And then we started talking about Formula One. Interesting. It was funny that you said that. Now that I remember you saying that, and I was thinking like, man, he's really into Formula One. He's really honed in on me on the Formula One. And he's been looking. I was panicking. I was like, oh, I screwed the whole thing up. And then I was like, oh, let's just get into Formula One. And you did look at me like, man, this guy really went deep into Formula One in the middle of an Oscars party. Right out the gate. And then you walked away, and then Jason came up to me, and he said, please, you didn't say anything.

51:39You don't fuck this up. You're the surprise guest. You don't fuck this up. I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. And then he walked away. Did you say that to him, JB? And then you said hi. It's funny. I had somebody else at the thing as well. That same night after you, Trevor, I won't say it is because I don't know whose guest it is come up to me and it's somebody I've known a long time and I go what's up dude and he goes I'm coming to talk to you on your stupid podcast and I go well I didn't know that asshole oh god and he's like oh sorry sorry sorry Rockwell did that too poor guy oh yeah Rockwell did do you like getting gussied up like that Trev and going out to those kind of events by the way Trev let me just tell you something you looked yeah really good on Sunday you looked very sharp You look very sharp.

52:24Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I've never heard that term, gussied up. Gussied up. Yeah, we got some beauties here in this country. Oh, I like that. You ever been to Illinois? No? Okay. No. No, I've been everywhere, actually, yeah. No, I do enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, I went to, so in South Africa, in school, you wear school uniform your whole life. So I actually like dressing up like that because I feel like it's no stress. I go, yeah, you put on the pants, you put on the jacket, and you know you're doing it right. We're lucky. Women have it so tough. Yeah, they do. They've got to, like, find the gown and then those shoes all night.

52:55Yeah, I wear comfortable shoes. My toes are all individually spaced out. It's wonderful. You know, I think that when you said women have it so tough, they were expecting something a little more than the shoes and the gown. But okay. Well, as a childbirth. This is how we get into it. This is how we get into it. This is the entree. The stuff they've got to deal with. Trevor, I want to, you know, I brought it up at the start of talking about Africa, and I want to know how often you get back to Africa. I'm so, I've never been. I've never been either. I want to go. And I feel like I'm depriving myself.

53:20I really want to go. This is the same thing I get in most of my hate mail. When are you going back to Africa? Oh, geez. Oh, no. Well, let me just add to that. Can I go with you? I want to go because you're kind of like the dude. Do you get back often? I go back all the time. Yeah, I'm there all the time. Especially since I left The Daily Show, I get to go back a lot more. I spend time with my mom, spend time with family. I would say I'm there like every two months. Really? That's so nice. That's great. Yeah, I love it. How long a flight? 16 hours from New York and then 20, it becomes like a weird 25-ish hour journey from LA.

54:01So yeah, it's 16 hours direct South African Airways, right? Yeah. No, no, no. It actually Unites is the only airline that flies there now. Really? Yeah. So, you know, life giveth and life taketh away. Yeah. And America, your new adopted home, Do you generally, what's your take on it? Do you like it? Do you have favorite places? Oh, I love this place. So here's the thing, yeah. Here's the thing about America is I think, again, you see nuance is maybe what is lacking sometimes. I think people take for granted that you can live in a place where you find it both amazing and at many times disappointing depending on what you're experiencing of it.

54:47You know, people sometimes walk up to me in the streets and they'll be like, you hate America, you piece of trash, why don't you leave? And I'm like, who said I would not live anywhere I hate? Let's start with that. Secondly, I genuinely find a lot of America amazing. And I find it's the optimism that is etched into the very fabric of the country that I find amazing. You know, it's an amazing country where black people at a time when they had no rights believed that there was a path for them to get equal rights. Even that is a strange level of optimism that I think is beautiful and profound. Yeah, considering how they were living, yes, it is.

55:21Yeah, that's exactly my point. Yeah, it's incredibly ambitious and productive. It has that. And I think it's a wonderful trait to hold on to and to never lose. And so while America has many faults, other countries have many. I travel all the time, so I'm under no illusion. I don't think of America as best or worst. I just think every place has the issues that it is dealing with at the time that it's dealing with them. So you, yeah, no. There's something I've always loved about Americans and America as a place and how different each state and each city is. I'm eternally grateful to be here. You're a West Coast guy or an East Coast guy?

56:02I split it. I find the East Coast is great for your mind. The West Coast is great for your body. Yeah. And I mean your body, not physically, but just like you. I feel like you breathe a little more. You sleep better. You eat better. Yes. It just has a calming effect on you. But the East Coast is great to get your brain just like really stimulated and going. Yeah, I agree with you. There's a lot. And I moved here when I was 20 from Canada, so it wasn't that far. But I do agree that there's so many great things. And I give this country a lot of shit. But I've been here a long time. And there's so many great things about this country.

56:37And I agree with you. But it's important for us to point out this stuff. to be honest about the shortcomings because it's the only way. And to care for it. Well, yeah. You've got to think of America like a Boeing airplane. You should appreciate the fact that it can fly and the fact that it does is pretty amazing. I mean, the fact that this tin can is floating in the sky at 40 ,000 feet, that's pretty amazing. That's wild. But if you stop paying attention to it and you don't try and constantly improve it, then the doors might fall off and the landing gears might fail. and the wheels fall off and it also inexplicably will lose power when it's traveling from Australia to New Zealand and fall 500 feet in a second.

57:19The point is, I get what you're saying, but it's like sex too. It's like even when it's bad, it's still sex, right? Guys, are we saying that? Sure, yeah. Are we going to go with that? I mean, is that the last thing we're going to get Trevor? We could probably workshop that one a little bit after we're done. I'll need to digest that one. Trevor, you are nine minutes over. your obligated time, and I apologize for that. We love you. What a fucking delight. What an absolute delight. Hey, Trevor, let me get your number. Let's hang out. We should do that. I'll let you know what I'm into. No, but actually, because you're a Liverpool fan and an F1 fan, we actually should hang out.

57:54We can just watch the things, and then even if we say nothing, we had a good time. He's not a bad man. We actually should, and I actually will do it. I actually will. I like that. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. Hopefully I see you again soon Until then Thank you Thank you so much for having me This is really cool Nice to get to know you We say in Africa God bless and may Simba always be by your side That's exactly what I was thinking Simba I feel like he's kidding But I'm going to take him at his word I'm going to take him at his word Thank you See you in Joburg Thanks, guys. Have a great rest of the day.

58:37Thanks, Trevor. Bye. Bye, buddy. Well, that, you know, listen, I'll tell you what. Our best guest at times. I really like that Trevor Noah. I really like that guy. Yeah, cool it, cool it. No, I know. I really like him. You're spoken for and so is he, Alba. No, I know. I think that he's a special dude. I really like him. Yeah, so smart. Like, I didn't know anything about him. I just thought I was a fan. I apologize. What? Yeah, I apologize to him. but he's got I love talking to him so much we didn't even get to his podcast on Spotify his podcast on Spotify is called What Now okay? What Now What Now and that's on Spotify and he's on tour right now like all over the world and tickets are on sale through November so if you're in Singapore Stockholm, Copenhagen, France Germany, Rotterdam, Auckland, Melbourne.

59:34I mean, the guy is hopping all over. He's like a real international superstar. Yeah, yeah. Comedy superstar. The real deal. Because most of the comedians that we know who are our friends who we adore, but they're all going to fucking Denver and Omaha and shit, right? Like a bunch of fucking ding-dongs, right? But then you got Trevor Noah and he's in Singapore. I mean, all our fucking stupid American comedian friends can suck it. just trevor's out in the world places right sophisticated he's sophisticated cool shit yeah i like talking to people like i learned so much just from a quick hang like that yeah i've also you know been thinking about that city he performed at recently do you guys remember the name of that city oh here comes here comes here comes what are you are you trying to wrap it up already we've barely talked about him what do you want to say more i love him he's super smart.

1:00:27I want him to come back so I can learn more. He's excited about his buy. Let him get to it. What were you talking about, Sean? Well, it's a place where a lot of rich people live. Where's that? Dubai! He's had that loaded for a half hour. Smart Less

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